I will always remember my first day at Sandhurst, being told by the Company Sergeant Major that "I will call you Sir and you will call me Sir, the difference is that you will mean it!!"
I live a 2 minute walk away from the Sandhurst RMA and can always hear them doing shooting practice, but until this never really knew what happened inside! Great to see what goes on in there 🙌
Great documentary. These people face the moral issues that we all did as soldiers... once you commit to taking another life you've plunged into a moral turmoil that you'll never forget. God speed to all those who have already paid the price and rely on your brothers in arms to all those who continue the fight.
Barney the dinosaur I take it that you didn't notice the girl with the snowflake logo on her hoodie, she was the one who later poo poo'ed patriotism. You must remember the army is finding it difficult to find recruits, especially when they are investigating old men who patrolled Northern Ireland a life time ago or some poor sod who actually killed an Iraqi or an Afghan. They train you to kill and them prosecute you if you do.
Looks like some sort of tradition there. Another guy they showed had Barbie bedsheets and his roommate had pink flowery ones with a yellow cartoon character on them.
I feel so close to what the bloke says about the pub, to the late Lieutenant Mark Evison. It immediately makes me think about how great us Brits are, in terms of always taking the piss out of each other, and that everything is going to be ok, no matter what happens. I'm currently going through the application process for Sandhurst. God bless.
It was a bad tour for the Welsh Guards, they suffered fatalities and had quite a few injured Guardsmen, NCO's and then Mr Evison, a Company Commander and also their battalion commander as well as well. My thoughts go out to the families of ALL British service personnel who lost their lives in Afghanistan. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
"Sir, your gonna be alright" imagine going through all that, your leader has just been shot and you still have the respect to call him sir, he'd been there 4 weeks bloody heros
While I applaud the fact that Mansell-Lewis realized he could not (or would not) put himself up for the ultimate sacrifice for Queen and Country, I am left with a bad taste in my mouth that he took a spot away from another qualified applicant to do so. He certainly had the time, and the knowledge to reflect on this BEFORE accepting the position at Sandhurst.
I am glad that Mansell-Lewis figured it out while in training rather than when he deploys. His decision to not continue probably saved British soldiers. I don’t doubt that he isn’t a good person, he just does not have the officer quality that somebody would want .
Thinking of applying to Sandhurst and hearing the words 'man down' sends chills down my spine. I'm a lot less comfortable with the idea of a man under my command being hit than if I myself were wounded (we'll see how I feel after being wounded), but you have to keep your head and work hard to make sure you get the job done and get everyone home safe. It's going to be incredibly difficult but I can't wait to prove myself and get my commission. This documentary and every other that I watch adds fuel to the fire that burns beneath me.
The Chinese communist army used live soldiers who'd surrendered for boyonet training. They tied them to a tree and got the new recruits to stab them to death. The Japanese commited many awful and cruel actions too. But that fact seems relevant.
Funny to hear lots of people commenting on the "snobby upper class officers" I wonder how many have actually served In the forces and have any experience with officers in particular those officers in the infantry.
Seb Kingsberry nothing to do with Infanteers or non infanteers. Granted, some of the Cav regiments (donkey wallopers), if you don't have the right background/face/name/private income etc, you're unlikely to be invited in, but the rest of the Army is fair game. In '97 a Captain said something along the lines of '... of course, we don't want any comprehensive types...' and instantly sensed the room. 'Hmmm, ok, how many of you went to state comprehensives?' and of the 40 or so cadets, about 20-30% put our hands up. 'Well that's me told then' he remarked. For literally decades already now, the Officer corps have represented a wide range of backgrounds. It's not necessarily a recent change. Are there upper class posh ones? My god there are, but most of them are decent enough anyway, and for the same reason one shouldn't typecast a working class person, those commenters you observed, also shouldn't make assumptions about the upper class either. It's interesting when there are ppl that comment on things about which they know little about, as you quite tightly pointed out.
They all get progressively wetter and dirtier during the bayonet training. I think there must have been a fair bit of extra ditch running and leopard crawls going on off screen.
Such a shame about Mark Evison, according to the book written about the Welsh Guards tour in Afghanistan..... Mr Evison was genuinely loved by the lads in his platoon. The Welsh Guards also lost a Company Commander and their battalion commander as well. RIP Mr Evison and every other British serviceman who lost their lives in that place.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
They shouldnt have been there in the first place. Now after all these lives were wasted, the Taliban.are back in Helmand running the place as usual. The British Army achieved nothing during there time in Afganistan. The only reason they were put there in the first place was because of 911, which had nothing to do with us. You cannot win a war unless the population supports your aims. The Afgan people saw the British Army and the rest as occupiers. There aim was to rid their country of them. They have succeded.
@@yvonneheald3616 It was a fight worth fighting. If you think a regime based on fear and discrimination based upon some made up stuff about a goat herder right in 2022! Worth fighting and dying for. We shouldn't have let go and eradicated them in my opinion.
The interspersed clips of the soldier Mansell struggling with his conscience about killing and his companions screaming "kill" and "blood" during the bayonet drill was extremely provocative. Quite a contrast! I wish that conscientious objectors had been treated with similar respect in past wars.
As an ex soldier myself. Modern day soldiers are there by choice. Days gone by you had no choice when your country comes knocking. Appreciate your point!
i was in the welsh guards but not as an officer... i worked for a living :) much respect to all that served and still remain in the forces and God bless those who have fallen..
the chaplain's input seemed so appropriate .. but then, I am myself a chaplain .. which is not to say I agreed with everything he said, tho understood ..
The person at the very start says it is hard between 18-26 because they could be unemployed. A few hundred years ago you would of been lucky to be alive.
They are willing and able...Serve with honor and truth always... Respectfully Michael Dempsey Veteran Vietnam and Cambodia 25th Infantry Division 3rd Squadron 4th Cavalry "D" Troop Hunter Killer Teams/Aerorifles
You are right. It's all about your immediate family, and your family are your people and friends you are willing to die for. no other name could a honorable sacrifice mean more than an officer laying down his life for his men. Full stop.
Top Hat Nah mate What about all those veterans of the First World War and Second World War that threw their medals in the river after coming home For some people it can be a good illusion For others it is not enough They see right through that bullshit No one truly believes that shit At least no one who's truly seen action in the front line And I mean intense action
Lord Slashington III no most of the vets who threw away there medals from the first and Second World Wars threw them away because they believed that they didn’t deserve them. That what they where doing there duty for their country and their beliefs. Their culture was very different from ours they believed in their nation and what it represented not our modern ideals. Back then people constantly had to fight for what they believed and patriotism was the best way for them do that. That’s my grandfather said and every over second world war veteran I have ever spoken too have said.
You don't have to think really. You should be joining because you want to protect your country and its people, and that means putting a cap in a lot of people sometimes. If you aren't satisfied don't even join
38:03- “Eleutheron to eupsychon” - “Happiness depends on freedom; freedom depends on valour” - Perikles, The Funeral Oration (Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, II, 43,4). Without patriotism there can be no democracy and no freedom; the alternative to patriotism is slavery.
Dorian Philotheates aye, she’s an idiot. Without patriotism we probably would have surrendered in WWII like the rest of Europe (not to say France and Belgium weren’t patriotic, we just had the advantage of the British Channel between us and them)
@@_JoeTilling I agree cousin Brit. The specter of WW2 has weighed heavily on Europe, especially Germany that cannot utter a remote word concerning patriotism and nationalism. The flood of 'refugees' I do not agree with at all. If they want to become part of their adopted country fine, but when they expect the host country to implement their religious laws it's complete rubbish. What I'm getting at is if you do some of your own research you'll things are set up to achieve certain goals by some very nefarious people that want a 'global' government. Patriotism and nationalism are obstacles to this, which is why they're looked down on today.
The chap got scared the closer it got to actually going to war and pulled the moral card. He would of been screened months before going to Sandhurst. A waste of taxpayers money. Should have to pay it all back
Any one know the piece of choral music used @ 39.20. Been after this for about 7-8 years now. Sadly I know neither the title nor composer . ANY THOUGHTS appreciated .
One thing that has bothered me throughout these documentaries has been the union flag on the wall in the office (next to the welsh flag and one other). It is upside down. I can't think that in a place like Sandhurst it is a mistake. What is the reason for this?
All good stuff at RMAS always look after the solders you command I realised after a number of years as an officer That the Senior offices above me were not looking Junior Officers ????? I never regretted my army time But RMAS is fantasy land compared to full time leadership in the British Army
Thats why when junior officers get to battalion for the first 6 months minimum they should keep their mouths shut and listen to the platoon staff. Sandhurst is worlds away from the field army
...did you really go to Sandhurst? you may have been playing upto your user name but some of your language/ spelling would suggest not... may have typed drunk of course?? lmfao
The worse thing about British Army is/was commissioned based on nobility, WW1 and WW2 were filled with tragic examples of leaders commissioned not because if trained skills or experiences, most have titles of "Sir"...based on pedigrees!!
少川靖男 not quite sure why that would be the worst thing or even a bad thing. History is what it is, the past, and that was the way it was. However, this 'privilege' had significant downsides. I think you'll find this article interesting (see link) which includes this quote - “The young gentlemen from Eton and the Edwardian public schools paid a terrible price for this duty … but there was one unassailable, and surprising, truth about it. The more exclusive your education, the more likely you were to die.” owlcation.com/humanities/Junior-Officers-in-World-War-One
My grandfather went to Uppingham (a 'good English private school') before taking part in the Great War. After the war he went back and visited his old housemaster. They got out the school photo for his year and my grandfather was one of only three boys that had survived the war. Don't ever let anyone tell you that private school boys, whatever their pedigree, didn't play their part.
The Major-General apparently commanded an armoured division in Iraq. Although he may have been responsible for ordering that an entire company be pounded, that is very different from killing someone with your rifle as a young lieutenant might have to do in Afghanistan for example. In fact, it is possible that the Major-General himself never had to use his personal weapon in a combat situation.
Reading the book written by Toby Harnden, you obviously read the words spoken by the platoon....... when you actually see the video and actually HEAR the words spoken, it makes it totally different.
I find it interesting they quote 95% by the time Vietnam came about. Ludicrous stat considering Britian skipped that war. A more apt figure would have been on the British army last 10 years
45.00 in... gads I remember being a section commander in an Arctic Warfare ex with 45 Cdo RM, we had just clambered all the way up a large hilltop in a range of mountains about 60/70 miles north of Ose Norway to get choppered off to another position after my troop had spent the first 4 days of a 2 week exercise laying ambushes and trying to spot and take out the Norwegian army acting as the enemy, a young noddy A/Lt officer who had just finished training before joining our brigade was replacing another troop commander near my previous position, he had just got off the chopper that at the time was chucking up clouds of snow where it had landed and just as I had handed this young lieutenant my map to point out to him where to go one of my guys tapped me on the shoulder to ask me what to do with all the kit, after trying to tell him over the roar of the chopper blades to get it all loaded onto the chopper el pronto as I turned back round I watched the young officer ski'ing off in the distance already half way down the side of the hillside having knobbled my map with him, after getting on the chopper that had to take off fairly sharpish as it were blowing up a gale I found out aboard the chopper that no-one else in my troop had a spare map, the pilot had a rough idea where he was suppose to drop us off but where he did land us it wasn't the correct place where we were supposed to be and our radio had no signal up in that part of the mountains, fun and games had yomping for about another 7 hours through thick hard packed snow without ski;s but we finally came to a path by a stream that led down to a road then we found a small village and luckily just a bit further on came across a small army barracks situated in the middle of nowhere, unfortunately some of the enemy we had been up against were stationed there DUH, but it all got sorted out in the end and also luckily for us, with just having been issued blank round ammo, unlike in Alaska or Canada there were no timber wolves up in North Norway. we then found out 2 days later that where we should have been positioned was a few thousand feet up and about a mile away north of the position we had beeb taken to and on top of the mountain ridge not at the bottom by a lake where we were supposed to meet up with the rest of our troop. I still never found out if it was just the officer was a dumb thoughtless fuck or if I myself was getting tested out for my own ' lost in the mountains without a map reading or leadership qualities. ! But for sure another memorable time had serving as a bootneck during the cold war training days back in the 70s.
Bowden's Ghost nothing grotesque about modern. I assume you miss the days of colony and injustice. Soldiers should have brains in their head these days
TheNoobPube Patriotism: having or expressing devotion to and vigorous support for one's country. There is nothing wrong with this. The notion that patriotism is intrinsically bad is utterly ignorant.
The story of a SAS team during the first gulf war is an amazing one... after intense training and selection and volunteering for duty these guys drove deep into Iraq in soft vehicles, no doors no roof, and no cold weather gear. After fighting iraq Republican guards in wahdees and dealing with colder than expected temperatures brave members of BRAVO Two zero perished. I believe it was a documentary on sas history I saw this on.
Training is too expensive, in parts utterly irrelevant and is only part of the course because the senior officer yahoos say 'we have always trained people this way'. Some of the training is just downright silly. This men and women are also a liability when they return to civillian life as they expect to be obeyed and that does not happen in civilian life. The worst manager in the civilian employment sector I have ever seen was a Sandhurst graduate who tried to apply army training techniques to his team. Result? One staff member dead through a heart attack. Another four who never worked again due to PTSD. Eight others who left or asked for transfers to different departments. We eventually took over two million quid off the employer who had failed to stop this lunatic. And he still didn't think he had done anything wrong.
I will always remember my first day at Sandhurst, being told by the Company Sergeant Major that "I will call you Sir and you will call me Sir, the difference is that you will mean it!!"
Literally every single Rupert tells this story.
Well this is definitely a lie considering the fact you don’t call NCO’s sir
@@MrPspencer2 .
@OLIOB 1 .
@@ella7493 the guy is taking about a sergeant major so in this situation you would have to call him Sir.
"I'm going down".....that's when it hit home. Chilling
it won't leave me. will always travel with me now. i won't ever forget him.
I live a 2 minute walk away from the Sandhurst RMA and can always hear them doing shooting practice, but until this never really knew what happened inside! Great to see what goes on in there 🙌
"stand to attention whilst your in bed" hahaha
Jacob Riche
12:11 your welcome :)
We learned very quickly to sleep at attention so the bed could be made to military standards more efficiently in the morning.
Happens every morning
How I always sleep. Lol
Great documentary. These people face the moral issues that we all did as soldiers... once you commit to taking another life you've plunged into a moral turmoil that you'll never forget. God speed to all those who have already paid the price and rely on your brothers in arms to all those who continue the fight.
I live next to sandhurst and it's so amazing to see what happens in that academy
lucky bugger
I love the fact that the guy has Dora the explorer bedding
Barney the dinosaur why though
A classic example of 'post modern ironic'. I can't see him in the Paras somehow...
Can quite often be a squad tradition to buy each other's bed sheets for a laugh
Barney the dinosaur
I take it that you didn't notice the girl with the snowflake logo on her hoodie, she was the one who later poo poo'ed patriotism.
You must remember the army is finding it difficult to find recruits, especially when they are investigating old men who patrolled Northern Ireland a life time ago or some poor sod who actually killed an Iraqi or an Afghan. They train you to kill and them prosecute you if you do.
Looks like some sort of tradition there. Another guy they showed had Barbie bedsheets and his roommate had pink flowery ones with a yellow cartoon character on them.
I feel so close to what the bloke says about the pub, to the late Lieutenant Mark Evison. It immediately makes me think about how great us Brits are, in terms of always taking the piss out of each other, and that everything is going to be ok, no matter what happens. I'm currently going through the application process for Sandhurst. God bless.
How did the application turn out?
I enjoyed the bayonet lessons. That really put some good old fashioned death-or-glory bloodlust into them.
@Harry Harry shut up you knob end
@@scatman8963 😂😂 wtf is the "Jewish Franklin method"?
Brings back memories from 30 yrs ago, in my 50s now and I see the world very differently. Powerful documentary, very well done.
Thanks for uploading part 2.. it went missing off youtube for a while.
rip lieutenant mark evison
Rest In Peace.Sir.
Mark Evison went to my school and the reason we're affiliated with the Welsh Guards is because of him RIP
It was a bad tour for the Welsh Guards, they suffered fatalities and had quite a few injured Guardsmen, NCO's and then Mr Evison, a Company Commander and also their battalion commander as well as well. My thoughts go out to the families of ALL British service personnel who lost their lives in Afghanistan. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Rest in peace. I salute you
The British military is a force for good in the world. Respect from Texas.
Thank you mate..and respect to you guys.
We are the good guys...and shouldn't forget that.
So is any army willing to die for their country
Great Documentary, absolutely heattbreaking at some points. But i think they picked some really good people like Thompson to become Officers
I didn’t think they were picked I thought it was volunteered
Respect to you all passed and present thank you love documentary like this
Damn I miss it. Morality+rResponsibility+Controlled Aggression+Ultimate Sacrifice....it takes a special person.
"Sir, your gonna be alright"
imagine going through all that, your leader has just been shot and you still have the respect to call him sir, he'd been there 4 weeks
bloody heros
While I applaud the fact that Mansell-Lewis realized he could not (or would not) put himself up for the ultimate sacrifice for Queen and Country, I am left with a bad taste in my mouth that he took a spot away from another qualified applicant to do so. He certainly had the time, and the knowledge to reflect on this BEFORE accepting the position at Sandhurst.
I am glad that Mansell-Lewis figured it out while in training rather than when he deploys. His decision to not continue probably saved British soldiers. I don’t doubt that he isn’t a good person, he just does not have the officer quality that somebody would want .
I'm watching this from UK on the Sunday 8th January 2023. Just tears..
Thinking of applying to Sandhurst and hearing the words 'man down' sends chills down my spine.
I'm a lot less comfortable with the idea of a man under my command being hit than if I myself were wounded (we'll see how I feel after being wounded), but you have to keep your head and work hard to make sure you get the job done and get everyone home safe.
It's going to be incredibly difficult but I can't wait to prove myself and get my commission.
This documentary and every other that I watch adds fuel to the fire that burns beneath me.
All The Best To You Adam.
I used to live in Camberley and could walk into Sandhurst and the College with no security at all! This was in the late 50's and early 60's!
It was the same in the early 70s when I was at Sandhurst, but then the IRA started a bombing campaign on the 'mainland' and it all had to change.
"BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD AAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!!!" Fucking bayonet training 👌🏻 one way to get aggression out 🙌🏻
The Chinese communist army used live soldiers who'd surrendered for boyonet training. They tied them to a tree and got the new recruits to stab them to death. The Japanese commited many awful and cruel actions too. But that fact seems relevant.
Funny to hear lots of people commenting on the "snobby upper class officers" I wonder how many have actually served In the forces and have any experience with officers in particular those officers in the infantry.
Seb Kingsberry nothing to do with Infanteers or non infanteers. Granted, some of the Cav regiments (donkey wallopers), if you don't have the right background/face/name/private income etc, you're unlikely to be invited in, but the rest of the Army is fair game. In '97 a Captain said something along the lines of '... of course, we don't want any comprehensive types...' and instantly sensed the room. 'Hmmm, ok, how many of you went to state comprehensives?' and of the 40 or so cadets, about 20-30% put our hands up. 'Well that's me told then' he remarked. For literally decades already now, the Officer corps have represented a wide range of backgrounds. It's not necessarily a recent change. Are there upper class posh ones? My god there are, but most of them are decent enough anyway, and for the same reason one shouldn't typecast a working class person, those commenters you observed, also shouldn't make assumptions about the upper class either. It's interesting when there are ppl that comment on things about which they know little about, as you quite tightly pointed out.
As I was a trainer at RMAS in the 70;s I can say that earned their SIR through the hard work of the NCO's that got them there.
Nope! Fortunately I was in the Royal Marines Cmndo.
I actually respect the posh families with military traditions. They're born into privilage, and they give something back.
@@williamwallace2278 Which Commando?
They all get progressively wetter and dirtier during the bayonet training. I think there must have been a fair bit of extra ditch running and leopard crawls going on off screen.
They are only showing about 10% of what goes on in there. Don't really want the enemy to know how we train our officer's, do we now. ✌️
48:35 he has thought hard about it. That comment hits a nail on a head.
Such a shame about Mark Evison, according to the book written about the Welsh Guards tour in Afghanistan..... Mr Evison was genuinely loved by the lads in his platoon. The Welsh Guards also lost a Company Commander and their battalion commander as well.
RIP Mr Evison and every other British serviceman who lost their lives in that place.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
They shouldnt have been there in the first place. Now after all these lives were wasted, the Taliban.are back in Helmand running the place as usual. The British Army achieved nothing during there time in Afganistan. The only reason they were put there in the first place was because of 911, which had nothing to do with us. You cannot win a war unless the population supports your aims. The Afgan people saw the British Army and the rest as occupiers. There aim was to rid their country of them. They have succeded.
@@yvonneheald3616 It was a fight worth fighting. If you think a regime based on fear and discrimination based upon some made up stuff about a goat herder right in 2022!
Worth fighting and dying for. We shouldn't have let go and eradicated them in my opinion.
*joins the army*
"I don't have it in me to take another person's life."
Idiot.
well you can have plenty of other careers in the army which does not require you take another's life such as as a medic, engineer, analyst etc
@@lemonosharky3338 Priest.
"No damnit we need more aggression!!"
Proceeds to scream "on guard" like he just stepped on a lego or stubbed his toe 😅
The interspersed clips of the soldier Mansell struggling with his conscience about killing and his companions screaming "kill" and "blood" during the bayonet drill was extremely provocative. Quite a contrast! I wish that conscientious objectors had been treated with similar respect in past wars.
thats just something the training staff make them do to get them worked up. controlled aggression
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As an ex soldier myself. Modern day soldiers are there by choice. Days gone by you had no choice when your country comes knocking. Appreciate your point!
Army. Best days of my life. Wish I could do it all.again
i was in the welsh guards but not as an officer... i worked for a living :) much respect to all that served and still remain in the forces and God bless those who have fallen..
Verdi Requiem - Sanctus :)) love that movement
Love those aggression drills and the requiem in the background. That's literally how I imagine war
the chaplain's input seemed so appropriate ..
but then, I am myself a chaplain ..
which is not to say I agreed with everything he said, tho understood ..
Agreed.
the editing starting from 49:27 is great.
Well this episode was uncensored?
The person at the very start says it is hard between 18-26 because they could be unemployed. A few hundred years ago you would of been lucky to be alive.
They are willing and able...Serve with honor and truth always...
Respectfully
Michael Dempsey
Veteran Vietnam and Cambodia
25th Infantry Division
3rd Squadron 4th Cavalry
"D" Troop Hunter Killer Teams/Aerorifles
Thanks for the video....................................... & THUMBS UP :D
Sandhurst is the Real Deal. Good Doc.
You are right. It's all about your immediate family, and your family are your people and friends you are willing to die for. no other name could a
honorable sacrifice mean more than an officer laying down his life for his men. Full stop.
53:40
"What makes my grass grow?"
"EN GARDE!
"KILL!"
"EN-BLOOOD!"
Lamps.
Water.
Bingo.
Patriotism is a perfectly good reason, in fact it's basically essential.
Top Hat
Nah mate
What about all those veterans of the First World War and Second World War that threw their medals in the river after coming home
For some people it can be a good illusion
For others it is not enough
They see right through that bullshit
No one truly believes that shit
At least no one who's truly seen action in the front line
And I mean intense action
Lord Slashington III no most of the vets who threw away there medals from the first and Second World Wars threw them away because they believed that they didn’t deserve them. That what they where doing there duty for their country and their beliefs. Their culture was very different from ours they believed in their nation and what it represented not our modern ideals. Back then people constantly had to fight for what they believed and patriotism was the best way for them do that.
That’s my grandfather said and every over second world war veteran I have ever spoken too have said.
Some of the best soldiers I know are not particularly patriotic. They just love being soldiers
Top Hat
Patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings
Kill a little an they throw you in jail
Kill a lot an they make you king !
shark wolf
Yea bunch of fucking thugs !
The world over !! Fucking thugs !.
Stand to attention while you’re in bed 😂👌🏼👌🏼
Excellent trg for these young folk....lots of grit in that girl too...Good
You don't have to think really. You should be joining because you want to protect your country and its people, and that means putting a cap in a lot of people sometimes. If you aren't satisfied don't even join
38:03- “Eleutheron to eupsychon” - “Happiness depends on freedom; freedom depends on valour” - Perikles, The Funeral Oration (Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, II, 43,4). Without patriotism there can be no democracy and no freedom; the alternative to patriotism is slavery.
Dorian Philotheates aye, she’s an idiot. Without patriotism we probably would have surrendered in WWII like the rest of Europe (not to say France and Belgium weren’t patriotic, we just had the advantage of the British Channel between us and them)
@@_JoeTilling I agree cousin Brit. The specter of WW2 has weighed heavily on Europe, especially Germany that cannot utter a remote word concerning patriotism and nationalism. The flood of 'refugees' I do not agree with at all. If they want to become part of their adopted country fine, but when they expect the host country to implement their religious laws it's complete rubbish. What I'm getting at is if you do some of your own research you'll things are set up to achieve certain goals by some very nefarious people that want a 'global' government. Patriotism and nationalism are obstacles to this, which is why they're looked down on today.
The electrician seems the most sensible of the lot.
Harbour area then getting bugged out at 4 am was shit lol
Thank you.
I'd love to have a discussion with Eldridge. She has quite an agile and unique mind.
Discussion my arse, she is filthy.
@@davidhumphreys7035 You sound moronic
@@lynxyt_194 She sounds interesting as opposed to most shown on this documentary
I am surprised at how weak in character some of these people are, though it must be hard to actually have to live in such an intense environment.
Offshoreorganbuilder Characters are built up in training but yes agree some were weaker than thought.
It’s the ones that slip through the system that are the Bother.
Exactly what I thought, loads of these lads seem like complete pussies
Don't forget that constantly showing the strong and boring dosen't make good television so of course they focus on the quirky and weaker members
Define "weak"
What makes the grass grow? H2O and Lignin, Sir!
The chap got scared the closer it got to actually going to war and pulled the moral card. He would of been screened months before going to Sandhurst. A waste of taxpayers money. Should have to pay it all back
3:08 Tabbed out and thought Jon Snow was having a meltdown
Those Sweaters are Just Cool. I Think Higgins when I see these sweaters.
That yelling and negativity helps no-one. A good butcher is a calm butcher. That's how they don't cut their own finger.
He didn’t cut his finger as a result of being shouted out.
whatever happen to the Galglish lady officer cadet? she was introduced in this part 2 and that was all!
Any one know the piece of choral music used @ 39.20. Been after this for about 7-8 years now. Sadly I know neither the title nor composer . ANY THOUGHTS appreciated .
+Belfastchild it is from Faure's Requiem - In Paradisum (the final movement)
thanks for that
One thing that has bothered me throughout these documentaries has been the union flag on the wall in the office (next to the welsh flag and one other). It is upside down.
I can't think that in a place like Sandhurst it is a mistake.
What is the reason for this?
As the men are screaming, “KillA! Kill! Kill!” the Requiem by John Rutter flows overhead. Nice juxtaposition, good choice for an English composer.
The dude outside laughing is killing me
All good stuff at RMAS always look after the solders you command I realised after a number of years as an officer That the Senior offices above me were not looking Junior Officers ????? I never regretted my army time But RMAS is fantasy land compared to full time leadership in the British Army
Thats why when junior officers get to battalion for the first 6 months minimum they should keep their mouths shut and listen to the platoon staff.
Sandhurst is worlds away from the field army
...did you really go to Sandhurst? you may have been playing upto your user name but some of your language/ spelling would suggest not... may have typed drunk of course?? lmfao
@@72Bigray Yes I did go there in 1989 ?
15:00 anyone notice the Dora the explorer bedding? 😂😂😂
A brilliant documentary...but focuses on just a few recruits.
The worse thing about British Army is/was commissioned based on nobility, WW1 and WW2 were filled with tragic examples of leaders commissioned not because if trained skills or experiences, most have titles of "Sir"...based on pedigrees!!
少川靖男 not quite sure why that would be the worst thing or even a bad thing. History is what it is, the past, and that was the way it was. However, this 'privilege' had significant downsides. I think you'll find this article interesting (see link) which includes this quote - “The young gentlemen from Eton and the Edwardian public schools paid a terrible price for this duty … but there was one unassailable, and surprising, truth about it. The more exclusive your education, the more likely you were to die.” owlcation.com/humanities/Junior-Officers-in-World-War-One
My grandfather went to Uppingham (a 'good English private school') before taking part in the Great War. After the war he went back and visited his old housemaster. They got out the school photo for his year and my grandfather was one of only three boys that had survived the war. Don't ever let anyone tell you that private school boys, whatever their pedigree, didn't play their part.
I'm British and that announcement of the next show is so nostalgic for me
Are they doing another series at RMA Sandhurst?
@@god-fearingenglishman5254 idk but it would be great if they did
'Might have to use your weapon system'. When do we think this first occuFred to the man?
The Major-General apparently commanded an armoured division in Iraq. Although he may have been responsible for ordering that an entire company be pounded, that is very different from killing someone with your rifle as a young lieutenant might have to do in Afghanistan for example. In fact, it is possible that the Major-General himself never had to use his personal weapon in a combat situation.
35:55 nice bedsheets.
Wonder if he'll bring those Dora sheets to Afghanyland? haha I would
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You can see why foreign countries like their aspiring officer candidates to get a place at the RMA , and of course it is a nice earner for the UK Ltd
What week do their regional accents get stolen from them ?
Legend has it - day 1
Daglish has the right idea, hope she has a long and successful career in the UK Armed forces.
Is that Dora the Explorer bedding standard issue at Sandhurst? 😂
Rip mark and others
What makes the grass grow blood blood blood
Now we know where R. Lee Ermey's DI learned it and hence where he himself learned it.
Do they get an ironing board as a souvenir?
Reading the book written by Toby Harnden, you obviously read the words spoken by the platoon....... when you actually see the video and actually HEAR the words spoken, it makes it totally different.
I find it interesting they quote 95% by the time Vietnam came about. Ludicrous stat considering Britian skipped that war.
A more apt figure would have been on the British army last 10 years
such a selfless bloke. putting his men first.
Please respect everyone serving or served
Terrific
45.00 in... gads I remember being a section commander in an Arctic Warfare ex with 45 Cdo RM, we had just clambered all the way up a large hilltop in a range of mountains about 60/70 miles north of Ose Norway to get choppered off to another position after my troop had spent the first 4 days of a 2 week exercise laying ambushes and trying to spot and take out the Norwegian army acting as the enemy, a young noddy A/Lt officer who had just finished training before joining our brigade was replacing another troop commander near my previous position, he had just got off the chopper that at the time was chucking up clouds of snow where it had landed and just as I had handed this young lieutenant my map to point out to him where to go one of my guys tapped me on the shoulder to ask me what to do with all the kit, after trying to tell him over the roar of the chopper blades to get it all loaded onto the chopper el pronto as I turned back round I watched the young officer ski'ing off in the distance already half way down the side of the hillside having knobbled my map with him, after getting on the chopper that had to take off fairly sharpish as it were blowing up a gale I found out aboard the chopper that no-one else in my troop had a spare map, the pilot had a rough idea where he was suppose to drop us off but where he did land us it wasn't the correct place where we were supposed to be and our radio had no signal up in that part of the mountains, fun and games had yomping for about another 7 hours through thick hard packed snow without ski;s but we finally came to a path by a stream that led down to a road then we found a small village and luckily just a bit further on came across a small army barracks situated in the middle of nowhere, unfortunately some of the enemy we had been up against were stationed there DUH, but it all got sorted out in the end and also luckily for us, with just having been issued blank round ammo, unlike in Alaska or Canada there were no timber wolves up in North Norway. we then found out 2 days later that where we should have been positioned was a few thousand feet up and about a mile away north of the position we had beeb taken to and on top of the mountain ridge not at the bottom by a lake where we were supposed to meet up with the rest of our troop. I still never found out if it was just the officer was a dumb thoughtless fuck or if I myself was getting tested out for my own ' lost in the mountains without a map reading or leadership qualities. ! But for sure another memorable time had serving as a bootneck during the cold war training days back in the 70s.
Apostrophes are a good idea and your story is absolute rubbish.
5:25 I want to be an explorer too!
15:00 Dem sheets though
Some amazing men and women walk out of those gates!!!
What's the hm called at 37 minutes please?
I believe you're referring to "I Vow to Thee My Country".
38:02 what a grotesquely modern thing to say.
Bowden's Ghost nothing grotesque about modern. I assume you miss the days of colony and injustice. Soldiers should have brains in their head these days
TheNoobPube Patriotism: having or expressing devotion to and vigorous support for one's country. There is nothing wrong with this. The notion that patriotism is intrinsically bad is utterly ignorant.
cultural marxism... define it please
Titus Monk well said.
If she thinks love of one's country is ridiculous, why is she even at Sandhurst in the first place?
Good ol Thompson
Hope he is well.
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We will remember them! Sad we gave up Afghanistan after losing Brits and my American cousins etc.
Sandhurst = Quality
How many of those guys started out enlisted?
It's a separate course for the enlisted.
That guy shouting at the back of the crawling soldiers cpl murray from lads army?
Damn fine documentary, but I wish that closed captioning was available. Thick accents and their tone of voice make it hard to understand at times.
one rule for one other rules for others
The story of a SAS team during the first gulf war is an amazing one... after intense training and selection and volunteering for duty these guys drove deep into Iraq in soft vehicles, no doors no roof, and no cold weather gear. After fighting iraq Republican guards in wahdees and dealing with colder than expected temperatures brave members of BRAVO Two zero perished. I believe it was a documentary on sas history I saw this on.
2:19 His face 😂
Safe to say the Staff Sarnt was definitely not pleased with Thompson at that moment.
Those pigs look extremely happy. Bet the bacon they make will taste phenomenal.
Training is too expensive, in parts utterly irrelevant and is only part of the course because the senior officer yahoos say 'we have always trained people this way'. Some of the training is just downright silly. This men and women are also a liability when they return to civillian life as they expect to be obeyed and that does not happen in civilian life. The worst manager in the civilian employment sector I have ever seen was a Sandhurst graduate who tried to apply army training techniques to his team. Result? One staff member dead through a heart attack. Another four who never worked again due to PTSD. Eight others who left or asked for transfers to different departments. We eventually took over two million quid off the employer who had failed to stop this lunatic. And he still didn't think he had done anything wrong.