Worst Motorcycle Trends We Hope Don't Stick Around
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
1:01 Electric Motorcycles
3:52 Bigger Engines/Lower Power
5:16 The Sportbike Paradox
7:37 Limited U.S. Models
9:18 International Manufacturing Partnerships
11:27 Resurrecting Defunct Brands - ตลก
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The only trends I see are smaller bikes selling better than larger bikes, and Harley Davidson is increasingly like that turd that just won't flush.
Tao Tao still flying off the showroom floor in 2024
That’s more a result of a bad economy combined with their target audience aging out of being able to ride bikes
I swear if we lose our ability to take 200k sports cars to gapplebees on 20k piss missiles, I will revolt🇺🇲✊️😂
sadly I think we'll need to embrace electric to do that now that stock Mazdas are doing that
That's why I hate that they've discontinued the R1
@@loztagain8278 Nope.
Video I watched last week showing how the EU is pushing to ban small gas engines, i.e. scooters and motorcycles. You just know that when it passes, the US will follow in line because for some reason, the US always follows what the EU does.
Why did our forefathers leave Europe again?
@@loztagain8278No.. We don't.
We're finding new gas reservoirs every more every other month these days.
We don't need to embrace what isnt commonplace/expensive as hell/not as common to recharge (also proprietary technologies that charge these vehicles vary, and are slow as all hell too)
Being a rider of more than 45 years I never understood why they started coming out with all these odd sizes until someone recently pointed out it was for emissions. I started on 2-strokes and moved onto inline-4 4-strokes that I road raced on and had one v-twin Buell which was a torque monster(5th gear burnouts from dead stop starting in 5th). I have no need for riding triple digit speeds any more so at 61 years old I will do my remaining rides on my gross polluter RD400 and my clean air XR150L. My first Honda ever being a pretty loyal Yamaha person my self but, Yamaha offers nothing close to the XR as far as bang for buck goes.
THE XTZ IS A GOOD ONE FROM YAMAHA
They make the tw200 and xt250, both are nice but cost more than honda 150cc bike
@@GS-zv3qnplenty of used XT225's and enough TW200's.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I love the decent chinse brands like CFMOTO, Beneli, etc. They're pretty popular in Europe, all of us can agree that they're far from a high end motorcycles, but you get a pretty good bang for your buck. They're pushing decent tech and add-ons that a lot of other Japanese/European bikes don't have as standard. That's just gonna push all brands to invest more into their products, its a win for everyone.
how about no?
yeah I agree the more players there is the better the competition and ultimately buyers are the winner in this case
I love them too, they're the only way some of us can afford these nicer bikes
My CFMOTO 300NK has been lots of fun so far, cheap transportation for doing things when I don't want to take my truck out and about. And gives me an option if I don't want to put extra unneeded miles on one of my R1s. Don't get me wrong I love my R1s, been riding them for 20+ years and currently have 2. But sometimes the big liter bike is just more than I need to run to the store, or do some errands. So far the CF has been great with no problems and does everything I bought it for.
The whole reason these came about is that when they first started outsourcing to china etc the factories would take the designs and make their own models with them, or somebody would pay them to do so.
By partnering with these companies the big brand companies that designed the bikes actually get some money from these cheapo knockoffs that they wouldn't otherwise and the cheapo ones benefit by being able to say, hey look, the actual brand endorses us!
If we were to be realistic, people that daily ride motorbikes do not need nor want liter bikes/600cc inline 4’s. Manufacturers do not care about people that ride bikes for 2-3 months a year, they will always pander to daily riders because that’s how you also make money from spare parts. A person that rides daily is also more inclined to replace his motorbike more often than someone who buys a bike and only uses it for a few months a year. At the end of the day they are companies that only care about profits, so the majority dictates the market
Harley's entire business model is giant engine bikes that never see rain or temps below 65°
I daily a 636 and love it
i like the inline 4 cyl engine that my 82 nighthawk has for its heart... the soundtrack is intoxicating. I daily it rain or shine.
Personal view is that bike have been losing their soul and identity since the 90s
Somehow the world has to change. Units sold has to change in place of unit Lifetime. Vehicles that are made so well, and so reliable, useable that they stay on the road for 40 years with some level of factory support to enable that (upgrade options, or buy-back and refurb options) new models should appear at a slower pace and a thriving factory supported resale industry would eliminate a lot of waste in the world and also result in better more thoroughly thought out designs
I’m sticking with my Stone Age 2006 vstrom…..I ride it to work mostly, and sometimes rip around on dirt roads til I get lost. It’s not that complicated folks!
yup. I have a 2005 Wee and a 98 TDub tagged and insured. I average about 6K a year, combined and do all my own repairs and maintenance. Life is good!
Probably one of the most reliable bikes ever - 13 years on a 2008 and only repair was a burned out rectifier.
I’m not a boomer, but I find it funny that you call it your boomer rant. I remember when I was young I said stuff like get out of the way old man I’m doing it I don’t care what you say. Turns out when you get older you just have years of mistakes and observations of peoples successes and failures to draw on. The more observations you make the more ridiculous you see certain things as being. Old people need to relax let young people make their own mistakes. Just because we remember a time being different doesn’t mean it was better. The best time to be alive is today. And that goes for every single day of your life. Young people who have mentors succeed because they value the knowledge of observations of older generations, and they can better understand modern times.
5 minutes ago, I said something similar about another video. And not too long ago, my mother, who is 75, sent me a picture of a sign in some bar she was visiting which said, "You can't be Old and Wise if you weren't Young and Stupid". Hysterical.
I'm 27 and even I know this.
As a Ducatista, Frenchie and Tesla owner… I LOL’d several times at this video.
No manly oil leaks 😂. Hey stop looking at my garage floor!
The cure is Suzuki
Electric or gas powered, I just like bikes.
I don't care if I would drive an electric and get hated on it, or when I ride gas powered bikes and still get hated on it. I just enjoy bikes and riding.
Just give me a neutral, and maybe a 2-way transmission for city/highway
@@mattlorenzi5606 Still respectable. As long as you enjoy the ride
yeah its weird as fuck that people have this hatred for electric vehicles. Gas aint going anywhere, but to say there is no place for electric vehicles is just being dumb.
I like actual motorcycles with a clutch and gearbox and nice sound from the exhaust
@Saint_Maximus_III it's still fine. I love the sound as well. And I know e-bikes can't provide the same experience like gas powered ones... but I just don't care at all as long as I can enjoy riding or owning a bike.
I want an XSR900 GP soooooo bad they are GORGEOUS
That 70s race bike look is incredible, and that triple-cylinder sounds incredible. The retro market is really popular right now.
The Kawasaki ZX4rr bucks the trend, I bought one. The high RPM in-line 4 is a blast to ride, the bike handles like a scalpel. Flash it and ride.
It absolutely needs a tune tho, thats the only issue
I'd LOVE to have a Lightning LS-218. 244 horsepower and 220 pound-feet of torque - and that torque starts at zero RPM. There certainly are some underwhelming electric bike models out there, but there's also some pretty spectacular ones!
Nerds calling out other nerds lol.
Guy from Europe here. Most people use cars for commuting and bikes are seen as an expensive hobby, in most of the cases.
But if you look at the Austrians for example, they have the best roads and twisties to ride, so relatively compared to the population, there are a lot of motorcycle enthusiasts. And probably more squids as well.
Same in Italy
Guy from Austria here, I can confirm
Interesting. Here in Latin America cars are really expensive relative to income and roads are crap, so Motorcycles are the preferred transportation method for lower income people. You can get a good 125-150 for like 1000 bucks that will get you from point A to B.
In my case, I own a good car but use my Motorcycle to commute. Traffic jams here are insane. So filtering and splitting save me.
Livewire One owner here. I bought it because it has no gears or clutch. If I want to go a long distance I get on an airplane. It has a dealer network. You can talk the dealers down in price. I got the dealer to knock off $3700 off msrp. $20k lol. The energy is practically for free. Having the expectation of an ev to go long distance is the same as expecting a flathead screwdriver to loosen a phillips head screw. If you use a tool the way it was designed it works well.
The Ninja 650 Engine is one of the best things ever created. I am about to go kick ass on mine at Roebling Road next week.
Agreed, they're bulletproof and I love that low-end torque.
Actually your No4 explains your No5. In Europe or other parts of the world, where motorcycles are not a hobby, but a daily transportation for literally millions, many of those millions can't afford to gush out 10, 12, 15 or 20 thousand dollars, so bikes like the X-Cape are a blessing, since they're good enough and cheap enough.
I rented the Harley (badged) Livewire while my Stage IV Milwaukee 8 was in the shop for the SECOND time for rear cylinder leaking oil. I wanted to hate on that Livewire, but wanted to try it for the experience. That is quite a bike. Of course it seats like a mid position upright. It's a pleasure being an on off control in traffic, no clutch or shifting. The regenerative braking is quite impressive. It has those massive front dual brembo brakes which I hardly touched. There's quite a bit of power and goes quite fast. I'd definitely have one as part of a multiple bike arsenal if I commuted in this horrible traffic. The bad part... the range sucks even in the best of situations and you get less than 1 percent charge use per mile at highway speeds. I started with 100 percent on a 70 mile ride and hit zero percent near my home coming back (coasting to a light). At zero percent the throttle becomes a switch and it goes into some kind of limp mode at 10MPH.... it died outright coasting into my driveway parking spot. The major electric issues are low range and you can't tank up. The charger they have you use takes 12 hours from zero percent to fully charge. The price on those things are hard to swallow. The think the Harley badged one was almost $30k when it first came out.
The character of a motorcycle or any other product comes from the product designers, not the OEM who built it. If you just throw a name on a Chinese POS, then sure. But if you control the design, the components used, the style, and the quality (all doable) the end product can have as much character as a product coming out of your own factory. In fact, it can be better because the OEM will have strengths that the client company won't have. Case in point, the new Triumph Speed and Scrambler 400's. They're built by Bajaj, but if you didn't know that, you'd swear they were built by Triumph. They've received rave reviews and are already a sales success. No way Triumph itself could have built that bike at that quality level for that price. So I don't see it as a problem, as I worked in the consumer electronics industry where this practice started decades ago and continues to this day.
Bajaj also makes great bikes for their own brand, aimed towards the small displacement market. Both workhorses and sportish nakeds, with tech that before them was rare to see in that segment. Admittedly some of their earlier models had some issues but were later fixed in newer versions. Nowadays they're fairly reliable and cheap.
I disagree with CB350 being a royal Enfield clone. The bike has a unique character as well as design that resembles CB1100. Although it was developed to complete with RE, it is a different bike and has really good build quality that people thought it's actually produced in Japan.
Yammie really is a nub 🤦🏽♂️‼️guess such things happen when u try to be an expert without knowing about it 🤣🤣🤡🤡
If you present a video in court as "filmed in Mexico" and it wasn't, that's a crime itself. Lol
true
If the charging infrastructure was better there wouldn't be range anxiety.
EVs are pointless as the coal being burnt every night while you recharge, and the tire rubber particulate pollution makes all EVs worse polluters than gas vehicles
Even then you're too dependant on it. You can't carry a spare battery to extend mileage, and if you can, it's way too expensive compared to just strapping a gas can to your bike. At least for traveling.
@@jokermtb The same coal is going to be burned every night regardless.
@@jokermtb : It depends. When we charge at home, we use 100% solar so that's helpful. However, the materials and how they had to be extracted from the earth to make the batteries certainly wasn't eco friendly.
@@jokermtb Dawg the study with rubber particulate being more in evs in no way makes it such a significant increase over ICE vehicles that they pollute more, as for the coal being burnt while charging, you do realise firstly energy infra is also moving towards sustainable approaches and its the oil money makers which are delaying all that. Don't spread misinformation on the internet just because you don't "like" one type of vehicle.
"they don't have a catalytic converter you can cut off and sell for CRACK!" Laughing my ASS OFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Yams kicked open the door with guns blazing on this one! I agree with him 100% 🔥🔥🔥🔥
If I could hyper like I would.
well done, very well thought out video yam
oh man! this is the razor sharp edgy feeling i got when first watching your videos many years ago. you nailed this video man! yam is back baby!
It's stupid how strict emissions are on motorcycles in the US when the number of motorcycles on the road are way smaller than cars and semis. If the EPA wants to reduce emissions, go after unnecessary driving of cars.
Exactly! Personally, I think motorcycles should be exempt from emissions standards.
Well, in Europe where theses rules are designed, they do also apply to cars.
Yeah but in the US, we have a lot of single occupants with 9 to 5 jobs in obscenely large vehicles (i.e. pickups, SUVs, heavy sedans, etc;) don't know how to drive, always crashing, and causing traffic congestion that live in the very same cities with great public transport. The EPA is still coming after our motorcycles when there's way bigger fish to fry. Don't even get me started with crime.
@@carlosserrano6730Coming from the car community, they are heavily cracking down on modding cars to the point they are going after manufactures of said aftermarket parts/tunes. i do not disagree that more people should ride motorcycles in an attempt to save on emissions and traffic congestion but EPA isn't helping anyone with anything but their own pockets.
The amount of emissions per motorcycle is significantly greater than other passenger vehicle classes. A small motorcycle emits 11.3 kg of CO2e per 100 km. A hybrid vehicle emits less than 10 kg of CO2e in the same distance. The difference is largely due to shitty emissions on motorcycles. Most electric motorcycles being introduced are to replace small gas motorcycles which have the fewest emissions regulations of all. These are extremely small batteries compared to anything found in a car and cause more impact on climate change than electric cars do.
Motorcycles in most countries are a form of transportation, not pleasure as they are for you.
I ride my Yamaha fazer 250 everyday to work here in Brazil. It's the most common thing to do around here.
Funny enough during the development of the 451CC engine for the Ninja, They decided the bike they were testing was So Fun they decided to produce the bike. The Kawasaki Eliminator 450! I boight 1 and it's a friggin blast to ride!
Getting my new XSR900 this week!
Les gooooooo!
I worked for a dealership that carried the Zero brand and they didn't sell. We'd move ten Ninja 400's for ever Zero that went out the door. They seemed more like overpriced appliances than motorcycles along with all of the Zen of maintaining a dishwasher. I guess for the tragically hip, World saving, latte swilling Techie they are wonderful as the most demanding thing you'll ever have to do with one is plug it into the wall like a cell phone.
My wife bought an SR/F and when she did, it kind of made sense. Work was less than 5 miles away, and typical combustion engines had short runs. So and electric bike made sense. But there's very few good reasons for them. They are for all practical purposes in town toys. That's why she also has a combustion engine bike so we can ride outside the city limits. And this really is the knock on electric bikes for me. Expensive new, can't sell them used because nobody wants them due to their short range. As a rider for over 45 years, I love getting on it and zipping around, but honestly once I do that, it's got nothing left in the tank and takes a couple of hours to recharge. That's no fun.
I really like my zero sr 2017, i ride 40 miles each day for work and everytime i get home i plug it in and the next day i am good to go!
But yeah... No oil in my garage... 😢
I actually love the idea of an electric motorcycle. I would never drive and EV as my primary vehicle, but as a fun gadget absolutely. Since I ride for fun more occasionally, rather than being a serious rider who uses their bike a ton, I really like the idea of an electric one.
I believe that the premium bikes have gotten much better over the years, but the prices have become astronomical. Hence the latest slew of middleweight twins that for someone like myself find a bit boring to be honest. Leaving us to pursue machines like the MT09 SP, Triumph Street Triple 765, and KTM Duke 890R
I think the are still some interesting developments that we've seen in the last 10 or so years. I'm NOT talking about "rider-assistance" which degenerates your ability to control a bike by yourself.
But e.g. Yamahas crossplane engines are REALLY a big, nice thing that has made its way to many producers nowadays. I was sceptical on the loss of V-engines, but some newer in-line 2 are superb!
That's why I build my own motorcycles, I can do it the way I want.
You take existing parts and put them together. That's great, but not unique in any way. Engineers build motorcycles. There's a distinct difference.
Visiting China right now and I am amazed at how many electric vehicles there are here, especially scooters. I find it hard to believe that trend is not going to continue. Granted I love my ICE vehicles, but the thought of a low maintenance clean electric vehicle has me considering one.
Electric scooters, like electric vespa-like vehicle make sense
Offering 20 valid reasons got a point when simply not being a nerd is enough... is what YN is all about!
Loved this video 🙌🏻
Ride an Energica and see how badass electric motorcycles can be.
Great insights on this video, I agree 100%.
Awesome video, well done!
I actually want to see more sport bikes take on the naked big ergos and twin motors. Sport bike styling with more comfortable and accessible riding/power
I hate electric motorcycles. No sound = No fun, No complex engineering = Less appreciation for the bike. Moreover, dealers will rip you off with those shitty batteries since you can not do your own maintenance.
They have sound we be listening to the radio most of them have alarm systems and speakers built in
Well said! Congrats on the video.
That's why I own and ride a 1993 GSXR 1100 WP 😊
"I wouldn't get it because it has a Ninja 650 engine..I want something special" But you already have something special and awesome, the Ninja 650 engine!
I disagree on the Electric Motorcycle point. They aren't stupid, instead they are simply not ready for prime time yet.
1. If you want real performance, they are prohibitively expensive. This is true, but look at the low end of the market for value, for example the Surron. I also dare say that fast e-scooters are motorcycles in all but name. This market is growing fast, and prices should come down in the next several years.
2. Some are heavy, but others aren't. The aforementioned Surrons are under 120lbs. Sure, they have a max speed of 45mph, but people still love the Grom even though it's twice the weight and barely faster.
3. The tuning market for electric motorcycles hasn't matured yet. However, there already are tuning shops covering electric motorcycles. Overvolting is like boring out the engine.
4. The point about "riding a computer" is also true on modern tech-laden "uSe OuR aPp!!!1!!" gas-powered motorcycles.
"No one cares about Norton"
What a dumb comment 🙄
Yammie nubb 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤣
The Moto Morini Milano with the 1200 Engine is great though! It stood at the Munich fair a month ago - my mouth was watering!
love the content, hey what happened to the riding gear on your site? I only see merch now O.o
I noticed the same thing too!
Ive been riding cruisers for about 6 years and im considering getting into sport bikes with the RS660, would you all consider that too much for switching to sport or do you think that the 6 years with cruisers to be enough experiance?
Exactly my thoughts on EV bikes. Motorcycles should not be punished for the crimes of exponentially bigger producers of pollution.
The EPA seriously shafted the truck industry forcing manufacturers to make oversized trucks to fit standards. I'd rather have a tiny pickup with more carrying capacity than an f150 that can barely hold 500 lbs on the hitch
And that's why I own and ride a 1993 Yamaha XTZ 750 Super Tenere
Whoop whoop new video!!
After 5 bikes in the last 5 years, I just bought a 1980 Honda CX500. I think I like it more than any other bike I have though the Tracer is sure nice as well. I don't need to go fast, I just like being on two wheels. The fact that it'll probably outlive me, and I can work on it with a pointy stick and a rock for tools is nice as well.
I'm still sitting here in line for my Fuell e-moto. But i'll balance that out with a new Husqy 401. Also i'm a huge nerd.
Honestly that thing can do everything
This video makes me appreciate the FTR
I’m an Indian fanboy, no doubt, but yeah. The FTR is such a great bike. If you haven’t, you should check out FortNine’s video about it. He goes thru all the engineering that went into the bike. It’s extremely impressive.
I recently test rode the CFMOTO 300SR & Harley Davidson X350 and, ergonomics aside, they felt like they were the exact same bike. Great as commuters, but pretty meh on the riding experience. I had more fun on my 2008 Yamaha Scorpio & 2006 Ninja 650 riding to the dealerships than on the test rides of these new bikes. Between riding those, I rode a Benelli Lioncino 500 for over 500km back to Sydney. It was a 2021 model with only 1,200km on the ODO that my friend bought for half the price of a new one. He's a new rider, so he entrusted me to ride it home safely, and it was a heap of fun with enough personality to keep me interested for the whole trip back. So, in my limited experience, you can find an interesting generic bike with a badge slapped on the side, but you'll take a bath on it in depreciation if you buy it new.
Not a fan of electric motorcycles but the E-Bikes like upgraded Surrons are dope. You should review one!
yes but i cant agree on the brand collaboration thing...i believe its gr8 that here in india we actually get brands that are cool as hell but cheaper
What do you think about the Stark Varg Alpha. It has 80hp, and almost 1000nm of torque which is rediculous... And range doesn't seem to bad, you just have to put on some street wheels and convert it to a sumo!
Thank you for calling out the motorcycle journalists who have been exaggerating the range, performance, and social value of electric motorcycles for at least a decade. What a bunch of bull!! It's refreshing to see a young(ish) American man willing to speak his mind and certain about his pronouns. We're doomed!
Norton's been trying to come back for a couple/few decades. They even made a decent run at the 2014 Isle of Man TT. But yeah, their current offerings are way too expensive. The only Norton I would own now would be a 1974 or earlier.
You could afford a 961 Commando , a new one if they import them or a used 2014 for 13k
@@stephenbaron5681, yeah, but '74 was the last year for the upside-down shifter on the right side.
You are correct, I have a 73 850 which I completed a nut and bolt restoration 3 years ago, now I am building a MK3 850, should be done for summer. The classic are the best, still would not turn down a $50K RSv4 with hand polished frame.
I'm the guy finally getting rid of his EV to an actually motorcycle. Sorry it took me this long 😂
I get a surprising amount of waves from real motorcycles on my electric motorcycle
That's because we feel a little sad for you. It's like having a little brother that's a little "slow".
@@rob1248996You'll be the one in therapy over a bike by 2030.
Gotta say that passing each other at 40mph, I won't necessarily know what you're riding. Just being friendly.
@@bjb7587This one grom rider was being sarcastic with me. But that's okay they already knew they should of bought a dirt bike instead.
They were swatting at a fly.
A Texan describing European motorcycle culture 😂😂
Keep it up Yam, it’s real fuuuuuny.
Yammie pretty much said "because EVs won't make a difference now, then they are dumb and pointless".. Then proceeds to call them nerdy. This stuff writes itself lol
Then names trivial issues and things that he knows will change and get better over time. Kind of bad faith
Imagine looking at the screen and clicking post on this ill-researched video essay
As for Benelli bikes, its kind of the Reversed process. The bikes are designed in italy hq, manufactured in China. Then when Benelli sales are good they release a QJ version with More Bells and Whistles for a cheaper price.
If it wasn't for Yammie, life was just clammy,
Now I've got wheels, rolling swift, no more jammy.
I hope one day there will be back a decent, brand new 200+hp, EURO5, GSX-R 1000 inline four, with almost no electronics yet in a reasonable price. So let this be.
More of these vids please!
That "fail" on the daytona was out of pocket 😂
What's wrong with it? I love mine as my first bike. It's definitely strong enough, and it handles and feels like a dream, especially compared to the RS660
Technically every brand selling bikes today is a “reboot” from some point in their history… why?… because sometimes a brand really does outlast a product
So this water powered car, how does it work ?
Lets build it why not
why would you assume americans are "more educated", there is ample evidence against that assumption.
Spot on analysis.
Why are some bike discontinued because of emissions but others are grandfathered in?
Dude, all that on BS...then Honda says: Hold my beer! And brings back the 600RR!!!!!(In Europe, sorry Murica). Seriously, only ZX6 to compete with the 600RR now? Sad days we live in ..
This kind of garbage is exactly why I love my J2 ZX6R
EVs can work as daily commuter transport (half-charging for short journeys is far more efficient than fully charging) but they don't work for a performance recreational vehicle.
Bro, im sure someone said the same thing before Tesla came with cars… now we have the plaid. I don’t see why it would be any different with motorcycles.
@@porkchopexpress6969bro the plaid is prohibitively expensive and heavy as fuck
@@Archany ok. Name something faster. And cheaper.
@@porkchopexpress6969 On a twisty mountain road? Pretty much any 150hp sportscar. On a straight? Who cares, my motorcycle does 0-60mph in less than 3 seconds and costs 1/5 of a tesla
Agreed! I have an EV and it’s my 5th vehicle because it’s a strict commuter *ONLY*
It will get worse, it always does because everything built by artistry & engineering is eventually ran & sold by Salesman at the direction of Bankers & Lawyers.
And that is why the Music Industry is where music goes to die.
Electric Bike Rebuttals:
1. I'm a nerd, so no issue there.
2. I would prefer a nerd built my electric bike. Don't want Jimmy Bob wiring together my potentially explosive lithium batteries.
3. Expensive now, as with all new bleeding edge tech. Will reduce over time with tech maturity and better economies of scale.
4. Lack of infrastructure in my state of CA is not a huge issue, and will get better over time across the country.
5.Range anxiety is only an issue if you plan on touring. Daily commutes are a non-issue as long as you have a plug in at home or at work.
6. No rebuttal on this one, more major manufacturers need to jump on the electric bandwagon to solve this issue.
7. At least there are no more oil or coolant changes that I am aware of. Don't think working on a battery system is a good idea even if you could.
8. Parts availability always improve over time with new models and is not an electric bike specific issue.
9. Reliability is a concern for any new vehicle. ICE vehicles included. Will improve over time.
10. Definitely not a fad. U.S. regulations are already in place to ban the sale of ICE vehicles over time.
11. Clutches can be added. Usually a premium add-on depending on the company. Hope this becomes a standard inclusion.
12. Who cares about gears? Instant torque at any speed without having to worry about RPM, yes please!
13. Weight will improve as battery technology does. Lithium to be replaced soon by Flow and Sodium batteries.
14. No rebuttal for exhaust. Will miss the vroom vroom pop crackle.
15. Don't smoke crack kids. Selling cats is harder than ever now due to extra regulation brought about by the amount of theft from cars.
16. Oil leaks are definitely not a positive, especially without a garage spill mat.
17. See number 5 and 13.
18. All ECUs, even on ICE vehicles, are prone to malware.
Thank you. Fast talking does not replace accuracy.
14 alone kills it for me, if they can make them silent (and I mean silent not kinda quiet) I'd consider it, but the noise they make right now? No. Just no. I'm not listening to that all day.
I bought a Zero, because I wanted a smooth motor and I liked the massive torque. I 100% regret that purchase, but only because of the terrible range. If I had the published range, I would have been okay with it, but I never got even half of the published freeway range.
I now have a Ninja 1000 SX and am very happy with it.
Just a note here about the huge number of scooters in asia, in China, 10 years ago, many scooters on street (a huge amount) were already electric. And I'm not even talking about fancy electric scooters, they were ugly, dirty, rusty, hand fixed and cheap electric scooters. I even swear that saw a DIY with a exposed car battery attached to a DC motor. And that was years before the EV madness.
Very well said Yammie ❤️
Boeing has also recently noticed the compromises of outsourcing.
I have been wrong about a lot of trends, but I don't see electric bikes catching on. E-Bikes are one thing, but a motorcycle is all about gas and GAS ! (Gear aquisition syndrome)
It’s funny how yammie went from bashing the “can’t change won’t change” boomers to becoming the next generation of stubborn American beefboy. Still love ya Yammie!
The worst trend to come out in the last twenty years is the death of brushed alloy sports frames/swingarms. They replaced them with an ugly sea of matte black powder-coated shit.
Can I see a video on hybrid electric bikes? I was wondering about those, although as far as I know there is only one.
Gotta be spring enough down there, show us some riding footage. It's still cold in the north. What does riding a motorcycle look like again?
I think there will be a time where most cars are electric… but not motorcycles for the foreseeable future.
More educated but specialised customer base 😂🤣 I don’t think it’s that at all. I think it’s the KISS method being applied
Italy is a country blessed with desirable motorcycle brands, but go to Italy and if theyre not riding a scooter its a BMW GS, weirdly there is nothing else on their roads
Loved that part with Oscar actually. That was a nice touch