Narrowboating the LONGEST canal locks in the UK

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  • @MA.83-RN
    @MA.83-RN 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +139

    YES, the Narroboats are back.
    I really liked that series from last year. Happy to see it back

    • @PengyBoi111
      @PengyBoi111 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Almost 100 likes 😄👍

    • @PengyBoi111
      @PengyBoi111 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      OMG Downie LOVED MY COMMENT AGAIN TYSM 😍

  • @willMorton-m1k
    @willMorton-m1k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    I am so happy right now because I loved you last series with the long bots so I hope this series can live up to the last amazing one

    • @annakissed3226
      @annakissed3226 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      God you cant get away from bloody AI and bots anywhere 🤪🤪🤪🤪

    • @willMorton-m1k
      @willMorton-m1k 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@annakissed3226 this is not AI

    • @Squaremuffin
      @Squaremuffin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think this might be bonus material from that series though 😢 EDIT: I’m wrong 😂

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @Squaremuffin what? Look at my hair. This was filmed this summer

    • @Squaremuffin
      @Squaremuffin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for clarifying! Well that’s awesome then :) I made a faux pas by commenting as I clicked play. 🔥 I saw the intro and jumped to conclusions. Sorry!

  • @freeman4755
    @freeman4755 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    15:35 I'm sorry Ed, but that spill might've been one of the funniest falls I've seen in a while, I'm not sure how many times I've replayed it

    • @dynahtaylor7499
      @dynahtaylor7499 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      We rewatched it 7x at least😂 poor guy I know he was sore for days

    • @_SurferGeek_
      @_SurferGeek_ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right up there with seeing a guy get kicked in the nuts. Hurts just to watch!

    • @MalWave
      @MalWave 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      THE BANG THOUGH.

  • @dynahtaylor7499
    @dynahtaylor7499 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Please do a long travel trip with all 4 of you…I feel like a train trip with you 4 is really needed because yall are comedy a cruise, a train trip, something outside of everyone’s home country

    • @tereasia
      @tereasia 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree!

  • @BotFansUnited
    @BotFansUnited 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    My face always hurts a little after finishing one of your videos. But it's from smiling the whole way through. 😊 It's a good pain. 😂
    Thank you for reminding me often how beautiful this world can be.

  • @rickwhite3757
    @rickwhite3757 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I rented that very boat in July 2023. We went the other way to Bath. Great boat.

    • @Metropotter
      @Metropotter 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been to bath, great place

    • @GoombiDoesGames
      @GoombiDoesGames 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same but we hired it on August 2024

  • @nursefoodiethreesixty
    @nursefoodiethreesixty 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    This is awesome!! The canal boats series were my favorite ones last year

  • @Sillyitineraries
    @Sillyitineraries 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Brilliant to see you in my home town!

  • @user-TonyUK
    @user-TonyUK 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Nice to see you back in the UK ⛵🛥🚢

  • @minimoose1441
    @minimoose1441 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Yes! Love to see the narrowboats back! Your last series with them, along with David's videos from 'Crusing the Cut', actually inspired me to book a weekend trip on one while visiting the UK a month ago. It was such a great time, a lovely and relaxing break to a fairly busy schedule I had and a great way to see the countryside. I went through the Foxton locks, which is the longest flight of staircase locks in the country, a staircase lock being one that doesn't have a basin between the locks. I'd love to do the Falkirk Wheel, maybe I need to plan another trip! I would recommend it to anyone even slightly interested in it.

  • @SlivGames
    @SlivGames 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    LET'S GO UK VIDEO!

  • @Invad3rDiz
    @Invad3rDiz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    man i've been waiting for more of these canal vids

  • @Kx0195
    @Kx0195 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love your UK canal series, they're so great.

  • @railwayjade
    @railwayjade 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ah, love this series and good to see Nichole returns for this!

  • @GoombiDoesGames
    @GoombiDoesGames 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am so happy right now! Before we went narrowboating, I watched your series, and now, watching this feels so surreal. About a week before this video came out, we went on a Foxhangers boat, and guess what boat it was... Yes, it was Darwin's Fox! When you did the tour, I kept thinking to myself, "My favorite TH-camr is on the same boat I was on and showing me the boat that I was on. So, so cool!"

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That is awesome! I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did!

    • @GoombiDoesGames
      @GoombiDoesGames 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DownieLive We Really did. Also Such A quick Response. :)

  • @derick-smith
    @derick-smith 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was the luxury mountain train trip with your father that made me find your channel but it was the Narrowboating series that made me a subscriber. I'm so excited to see you back in the canals! You truly do inspire me to take and make more adventures, even if mine are extremely tame compared to flying over race tracks in jumbo jets ;) Thanks, as always, for the awesome content

  • @stephendowle4266
    @stephendowle4266 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What a great day, a new video from Mike, back here in the UK and on another Canal boat video.. Things can’t get any better. Thank you Mike for your content, you really are living the dream and through your videos we live them with you

  • @inthehouse1960
    @inthehouse1960 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've been watching the narrowboat TH-camrs for years. It's great to have you aboard and along for the ride.

  • @Its_crazyadamla
    @Its_crazyadamla 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I always look forward to Saturdays because i know he uploads mostly on Saturdays and can sit back enjoy a great video.

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I appreciate that

  • @Nathan-qc4gz
    @Nathan-qc4gz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Just want to thank you for your first narrow baiting adventure with your gf. After that I found the channel "cruising the cut", a great narrow boating channel I've been watching ever since 👍❤️

  • @thewolfethatcould8878
    @thewolfethatcould8878 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I LOVEA the fact that the sun graced your adventure. Awesome!

  • @jasonlynch2919
    @jasonlynch2919 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Looking forward to this series. What a peaceful way to travel, can't hurry at all.

  • @atlsxfinest8509
    @atlsxfinest8509 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    OH MY GOD YES!!!
    These are my 2nd favorite videos to your Travel by Train. So excited to see the rest!!!!

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      More to come!

  • @daranphilipson1025
    @daranphilipson1025 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The narrow boat series you did previously were what got me watching your videos.
    Looking forward to this series.

  • @10aemery
    @10aemery 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yay! Love your videos! The canal boats look like so much fun, looking forward to this series!

  • @Bill_Gray-Pullman_Travels
    @Bill_Gray-Pullman_Travels 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Another fun adventure! Thanks Mike!

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You bet, Bill!

  • @OverlandingArmyVeteran
    @OverlandingArmyVeteran 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You are back in the UK Locks! I love the locks!

  • @NoelleYetter
    @NoelleYetter 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I found your channel through the original long boat series so this feels like a full circle moment! ❤

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm so glad!

  • @stephclarke6850
    @stephclarke6850 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Delightful! I love that we get to explore all of these unique places with you!!

  • @heidimarie1198
    @heidimarie1198 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Loved the video !!! Relaxing and I know that area very well, also caught a very tiny glimpse of my sisters house !! Can't wait until the next one.

  • @josecristaleshernandez8627
    @josecristaleshernandez8627 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This one and Wales one, the best series ever!

  • @guymontag2948
    @guymontag2948 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A narrowboat is such an amazing way to see England. When I went, we stayed near a pub most nights and visited them for lunch as well, ensuring good meals and an unplanned beer tour as there are so many regional beers to try.

  • @theaeasterling5785
    @theaeasterling5785 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm so excited for another narrow boat & canal series! These videos are very calming to watch! 😀😀

  • @HamishAllsop
    @HamishAllsop 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    New travel by boat! 0:50

  • @rafael2410
    @rafael2410 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have been waiting for so long for this series🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @darkfangnightcrow
    @darkfangnightcrow 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I did these back in 2012 when there was a transatlantic rowing boat going through the canal system and it took a lot of the day to get through.

  • @therealslamshaky
    @therealslamshaky 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    your last narrowboat series was what brought me to yuor channel, love seeing another

  • @John_Fugazzi
    @John_Fugazzi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When you opened alone, I thought, "He's not going to try to navigate a long boat by himself, is he?" But when your friends showed up I knew it would be a great trip, and with curry delivery yet. Loved that beautiful green English countryside. Someday you might try the historic Erie canal in the U.S. which is still maintained and open to tour boating through New York to southern Ohio via lake Erie.

  • @hasina1461
    @hasina1461 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    WE ARE SOOOO BACK.... Loved the last series

  • @MLth9
    @MLth9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A couple years back I was on the exact same type of narrow boat and the same company. It was so cool. Cool video hope you hit 1 million followers soon

  • @DarrenDobson
    @DarrenDobson 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enjoy your trip in the UK. Amazing

  • @keySkullghost
    @keySkullghost 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the diversity of adventures your channel provides for you, and us viewers. It takes a hell of a lot of confidence to take these narrow boats on! 🙌

  • @AdiabetiKkidRex
    @AdiabetiKkidRex วันที่ผ่านมา

    Missed your videos lately, really happy to see this adventure of boating! Thank you!~

  • @elizabethflanagan9754
    @elizabethflanagan9754 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How brilliant.....another canal series. My son and I used to love watching the boats going up and down through all those locks

  • @murtheblur33
    @murtheblur33 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really enjoyed the last canal boating series and glad you are back for another adventure!

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Clearly I enjoyed the last series too!

  • @AdyDelaney2222
    @AdyDelaney2222 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I live on a narrowboat in the UK and loved your last series. Love all your other vids too. So happy to see you back here living the dream. Thanks for the uploads Downie!

  • @emilyvaughan3644
    @emilyvaughan3644 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved the last narrowboating series so much! One of my favorite series you've made, and I'm so happy to see narrowboating back!

  • @TotallyNotSamm
    @TotallyNotSamm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I loved the wreies last time. I hope this series will be just as good as the last one if not better

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hope so too!

  • @MrKytman
    @MrKytman 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    30:20, thats Selly Oak, Birmingham, thank you so much. If you freeze frame at the time-stamp, I lived in one the houses just offscreen off the left. I did my internship here, and I recognized the hospital and Uni instantly. Thank you so so so so much for this little teaser!

  • @kathimeadows7869
    @kathimeadows7869 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So great to see these boats!

  • @nobillclinton
    @nobillclinton 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    another adventure. Thanks for bringing us along. Swing bridges are fascinating.

  • @PaulCashman
    @PaulCashman 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For a sec I thought these were old videos from your previous narrowboating experiences. So glad that these are shiny and new!

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      More to come!

  • @bootss.9642
    @bootss.9642 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We love all your videos no matter where you travel but especially your narrow boat travels in the UK.

  • @chatanugadotorg
    @chatanugadotorg 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like a fun and peaceful trip!

  • @tereasia
    @tereasia 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh my gosh! I’m so glad you’re doing this again!

  • @DannyA3579
    @DannyA3579 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really enjoy the narrow boat series

  • @IDKman555
    @IDKman555 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love these great, adventure videos. Simple and calming with friends. Good times. I want hours of this

  • @stonedninja7371
    @stonedninja7371 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canals not for me but I'd watch this guy push a trolley around a supermarket. Hope you enjoy England. Keep up the amazing work , me and the wife love watching your stuff!👍

  • @darrenhartell
    @darrenhartell วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are the best Michael

  • @Nynke_K
    @Nynke_K 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is SO BEAUTIFUL out there. I love these videos! And the engineering on that lock cascade was brilliant!

  • @life.with.sabine
    @life.with.sabine 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So nice to see season 2 I guess of the boat travels in the uk along the canals

  • @itsnotme07
    @itsnotme07 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That's one wicked long narrowboat! HAha. I gotta go sign up for Nebula....

  • @JustinWatson23
    @JustinWatson23 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All these amazing narrowboat videos are making me want to go narrowboating!

  • @kencase2179
    @kencase2179 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the narrowboat vlogs! Looking forward to this series. Thanks for bringing us along.

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Our pleasure! More to come!

  • @brianr7023
    @brianr7023 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watched on Nebula, but wanted to give a thumbs up here... Great episode. Love the narrow boats!

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Much appreciated!

  • @judyallard
    @judyallard 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for taking me on your traveling trips. Awesome way to see the world.

  • @TransportNut89
    @TransportNut89 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Caen Hill, such a marvel of engineering! I live not too far away in Swindon, so know this place very well

  • @williamjones7163
    @williamjones7163 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't seen you in a while . It is good to have you back. I always seem to find you as I am trying to go to sleep. But your videos are so good they keep me awake. Good thing I am retired. Sleep time is more of a suggestion than a carved in stone schedule.

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good night

  • @8LA1
    @8LA1 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Devizes native here, so glad you got to try Wadworth beer but gutted you missed out on eating at the bridge they're one of the best pubs in the area

  • @PengyBoi111
    @PengyBoi111 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FINNALY MORE OF THE CANAL SERIS YAY

    • @PengyBoi111
      @PengyBoi111 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      OMG Downie Loved my comment 😊

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @PengyBoi111 I sure did!

    • @PengyBoi111
      @PengyBoi111 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DownieLive OMG MY FAVORITE YOUTBER REPLYED TO MY COMMENT OMG

    • @PengyBoi111
      @PengyBoi111 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DownieLive You have made my day tysm

    • @PengyBoi111
      @PengyBoi111 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DownieLive Sometime can you make a New Zealand vlog? I live there. It's a nice country that not many people know about.

  • @richardcullen8995
    @richardcullen8995 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watching from Atlanta and so interesting 👍 Thank You

  • @NavyDood21
    @NavyDood21 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love seeing places that I have seen on a dedicated narrowboating channel on this one.

  • @DanielDenoted
    @DanielDenoted 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    30min about narrowboat. Thanks for listening to us. Boat or train. Always fun to watch but I like the boats. You're able to see everything

  • @mandy7422
    @mandy7422 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh your back on the boats great job

  • @EmeraldCrimsonShadowPeach2K5
    @EmeraldCrimsonShadowPeach2K5 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I very much enjoyed the Narrowboat series from last year, and I'm glad to see the Narrowboats have returned for another series!
    Nonetheless, I always enjoy watching your videos regardless, and it never fails to make me smile when I see you having fun with other friends!
    Also, I've been watching your Canada series, and let me tell you, it's pretty awesome!

  • @astromandaily
    @astromandaily 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh my god ! Just got back from work and the notification just popped up of your video of narrow-boating which i am asking for days . Thanks downie . Hope you see this comment. Thanks for making my day better ❤😊

  • @mbgrafix
    @mbgrafix 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    *2 QUESTIONS:*
    *1)* How did they pump the water back in 1810 when the lock was built?
    *2)* Why isn't there an 8 to 10 foot plank on board so that you can use it as a bridge from boat to land whenever you stop, thus freeing you from having to take painful leaps of faith?

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There is a plank onboard, we just didn’t use it, which as you saw was a silly decision.

    • @mbgrafix
      @mbgrafix 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DownieLive
      Thanks for the reply! 😃
      ...and pumping water in 1810???

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @mbgrafix 🤷🏼‍♂️ probably a better question to ask Google. I’m just a guy from Canada.

    • @mbgrafix
      @mbgrafix 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DownieLive
      I know that you're just a guy from Canada, but golly gee, willikers...I like you anyhow! 😉😃
      =====================
      When the canal was built there was no reliable source of water for the 2 mile (3km) long summit pound, but there were several springs near the canal about a mile (1.6km) east of the summit. Unfortunately they were about 40 feet (12m) below it! Rennie diverted these springs into the canal pound below lock 60 (later known as 'Engine' pound) at Crofton and built a pumping station to lift water via a culvert and well from there into a feeder channel or leat to the summit pound above lock 62.
      Rennie designed the pumping station to house two steam engines, although initally only one was installed. This was a second-hand Boulton and Watt obtained from the West India Dock Company. It had a wooden beam and a 36-inch (0.914m) diameter cylinder.
      *Source:* I. A. Recordings

  • @esiebert7625
    @esiebert7625 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cruising the Cut 😎

  • @bitzzy5167
    @bitzzy5167 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad i could come with you on this adventure mike ❤

  • @robertewalt7789
    @robertewalt7789 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And I used to be impressed by the flight of five locks at Lockport, NY, on the Erie Canal.

  • @01jvb
    @01jvb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good to see you back on our waterways. We obviously made a good impression the last time !

  • @wendysuperfan1014
    @wendysuperfan1014 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks Mike

  • @TheAuswiz
    @TheAuswiz 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    That other boat new you guys were going up she got free work through the locks 😂

  • @awesomeadamfrom2099
    @awesomeadamfrom2099 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome job Mike dropa like for you

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can’t wait for future episodes :)

  • @njasak
    @njasak 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always ready to see you vids!!!!

    • @DownieLive
      @DownieLive  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yay! Thank you!

  • @MikeUK
    @MikeUK 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That looks crazy but awesome

  • @Digitalsurfer265
    @Digitalsurfer265 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mike on a boat = instant view and like

  • @marlenemacfarlane6199
    @marlenemacfarlane6199 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was amazing

  • @dorothydotson7154
    @dorothydotson7154 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do enjoy the trains but I love the narrowboats!

  • @arls417
    @arls417 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool. I’m so jealous, I’ll be up in Scotland and will be visiting Neptunes steps up by Fort William (not by boat sadly). Amazing feats of engineering. I just love the variety of your videos these days, so brilliantly eclectic.

  • @bishwatntl
    @bishwatntl 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Many years ago a party of us hired two narrowboats. We soon found that the two crews had different priorities about where they moored. We gave them names accordingly - the drinkers chose moorings close to a pub each night, while the eaters stopped off at villages en route to stock up on food that they then cooked on board.

  • @loranv3435
    @loranv3435 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing ABSOLUTELY, Thanks for Sharing ❤From Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦 Looks like a great Vacation Trip 😊

  • @jamesrea329
    @jamesrea329 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re finally going to the Falkirk wheel. Yeah! 🎉

  • @BananaKing274
    @BananaKing274 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Welcome back to the Downie Live Travels by Boat

  • @eileennovak1656
    @eileennovak1656 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I needed to see it. ty

  • @ade3628
    @ade3628 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I follow a few narrow boating channels on utube, I just love that life. Maybe one day I will love to live on one. I've been following your journey and can't wait for the next video. Also u hit the jackpot with our weather 😂

  • @dbz9393
    @dbz9393 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When mike said you can enjoy the company of a friend in the bathroom I literally thought he meant having a friend in the toilet talking to you whilst you were trying to poop xD

  • @cadetlife-z1g
    @cadetlife-z1g 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been up that fight, absolutely tiring. But the Cafe was worth it.

  • @willw7743
    @willw7743 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s fascinating to see that the locks and swing bridges are manual and not staffed. I can’t imagine infrastructure like this existing in the US for multiple reasons.