I have just published an illustrated parts guide book complete with pro tips, illustrations, measurements, and parts numbers. You can download it here: coupetofastback.gumroad.com/l/fjoxw
For a guy who said he’s not gonna waste your time, you wasted a-lot of time repeatedly saying what your not going to say , first quarter of the video is nothing
Definitely please continue this series! I’m 22 and my dad is 53, I’ve always wanted to be able to build and give him a 68 fastback for his 60th birthday/retirement. This is a way I could get that done!!
I am a fourth-grade Korean student majoring in mechanical engineering. I am planning to stay in Canada for a year to build an Eleanor based on the first generation Mustang Coupe and bring it to Korea. The budget is $50,000. Currently I am watching a lot of restoration videos and getting motivated. Thank you for your great videos.
This is a little confusing for Americans because 4th grade for us is elementary school, like 10-11 years old. I'm guessing you mean college? Like 4th year?
Please continue with the series! Im definitely interested in doing this. Im always eager to learn all there is about these fastbacks. Finally someone willing to educate about this process
I hit a home run a year ago i found a barn find 65 2 + 2 manufacturer daye is September 18 1964 so it is one of the first few weeks of fastback production. Solid numbers matching car. C code 4 speed. The intior looks almost new. No rips no tears no cracks in dash. 10k the older gentleman i got it from didn't know the current market price or this car would have cost 30k
Thanks Pastor Scott, I traded a 4post lift for a 68 and 67 coupe and they are ROUGH, but not to be dissuaded I’m going forward the coupe for my wife and the fastback conversion for me, I was an aircraft mechanic for years before switching to HVAC, yes I know your asking why, another story another time. I love the Lord and wanted more time for Him, anyways thank you for this series, most videos just gloss over the actual process and for a knuckle dragged like me I need things explained to me like a six year old. Oh by the way my name is Bennie Collins and I’m the cofounder of Smoky Mountain Stangs in Sevierville Tennessee I have had a few mustangs and think these cars are the best.
I love it! Two GREAT projects. Keep me updated on your progress. Is Smoky Mountain Stangs a local group or is it open beyond local? I looked it up on FB and I think you guys are a local group. I bet driving through the Smoky Mountains would be an incredible trip in a vintage mustang mod.
@@ScottHarness1 I think so to, we do a lot of cruises, come visit you won’t be disappointed, I approved your membership on Facebook, and we’re excited to see more videos about the mustangs and your ministry. Thanks again for the great content.
How does somebody who says “I won’t waste your time!” And “I’ll get right into it!” Numerous times within the first minute of the video take so long to get into the actual topic of the video 😂
This has always been a dream car. I grew up in a small town everyone knows everyone. My dad was working for a mechanic down the road named Willy. One day during the summer I went with my dad to work (I was probably 12-13). While they were working on the race car I wondered into a different section of the barn. Using the flashlight on my phone wondering around stacks of tires, old motors, car panels, and then BOOM… there she sat.. a 68 Ford Mustang.. it wasn’t the fastback, but I still fell in love with it. I gave it a proper look through and walked back into the main shop. (The car was all original, but hadn’t ran in years and was parked in shop for 18 years). I then asked Willy what I have to do for that car to which he responded “Get your son out of my shop he’s snooping too much”. I didn’t know he had that one I only ever heard about the 71 Mach 1 he had all original and immaculate shape. He kept that in the house garage I never saw it. Willy was a well respected mechanic and man in our community. Unfortunately he passed in 2022 and all his stuff has been going through auction. The 68’ sold for $2200 at auction sadly I was unable to purchase it at the time. R.I.P. Willy
This is awesome! I didn't even know you could convert a coupe to fastback and the fastback is my dream car. I was just gonna settle for a notch back but now I'm definitely gonna try this when I get one
I’m going to do this, just trying to decide between mechanic school or auto collision school (my main focus is on sheet metal since I want a reliable car with a unique body)
Scott, your on the money with your knowledge...I'm in Cali and my buddy owns over a 100 original mustangs and fastbacks, 25k for a roller is only if your lucky loll, real mustang guys won't argue with you because they know what you know, only the trolls talk smack. I have a 69 coupe and a 67 cougar, and their both amazing. great work on the build
Are any of those 100 for sale. Im looking to buy a 65-67 fastback asap. Has the run great tho. But not perfect exterior. But preferably a straight body. Doesnt need to have a paint job
there's a company where i live making classic broncos completely aftermarket selling for like up to 250k. These are new cars built in 2023 with no original vin. I think fastbacks will reach that point. As the market gets smaller and smaller ppl are still going to want them. Of course those broncos have the 5.0 coyote and dana 60 axles, and the complete works
I absolutely believe you are right. The price point for the conversions are sky rocketing. The parts will become super expensive soon enough. Fastback mustangs as far as muscle cars go are way more expensive than the others (not talking about very unique cars but general muscle cars) with that price point and people's desire to have one it makes sense that they will be a reproduction car soon.
Keep it coming Scott! Interested to see your pov on converting. Agreed the FB vin’s are out of control (I’ve seen $30k for rust bucket rollers!) although we’ll see if that holds once inflation levels out again. Used autos are +40% vs last year! 🤯 Great time to build cheap and sell high
Thank you Alex, you are absolutely right. The high valuation of Fastbacks makes the conversion so much more viable.I hope I can flatten the learning curve so the average joe can tackle it.
I bought my own 70 fastback about 10 to 15 years ago had a 4 speed with a good running 302 V8 had some rust on rear quarters but I replaced them done some body work and repainted it and recovered the seats new rack and pinion steering new carb new 3 wall radiator new crime bumpers . I gave $1500 for it I have about $5 or 6 k in it but it's worth that and more .
Hi Scott definitely going to follow you i just bought myself i believe a California special 1968 coupe GT with original A/C power steering and foglamps 289 engine
Got a couple here for 2500 good shape roller it's rough in a few places but I feel as I stood it it was raining and driving and some 1 took it all part it need a few sheet metal it was thinking about making a fast back but your so right about cost to Profit ratio Looking to make money off this car eventually
Actually already have a 67 coupe and am doing this. I also have a wrecked 2012 i am kicking around the idea about using the roller front end frame and floorboard under it
Next video will go up Monday, it’s about selecting the right coup to convert but I am working on a video on what exactly you need to order for the conversion. It should be out in a couple weeks. Wait for it before you order, there are things you don’t need and can save you a ton. There are also ways to couple any other big parts and save big on shipping.
LOL. There are more than a few of those old coupes taking up room in fields around. Can't wait to see what you do with one of them. Blessings my friend.
My plan is to complete the build of the 1968 with the same theme, affordable, street-able build. I’m toying around at converting a 1965 coup to fastback as well…
Absolutely! I think my goal with these videos was to show how common people like us that it is very possible to have a fastback. Thanks for the comment and feedback!
Thank you I really enjoy your videos. They’re extremely insightful and inspiring. I know your videos talk about 67 - 68 fastback conversions, but would the general principles and layout be the same for 69? Would you happen to have any information on doing this to a 69? Also, if you would happen to have any part breakdowns , recommendations, or anything along those lines, it would be a huge help, and I would be extremely grateful. I’m having trouble finding much information on conversion for 69 Thank you.
Everything would apply, but the 69 is a different car so there would be some variances. If you already own a coupe of that year it might be worth it but I still see 1969 fastbacks that are reasonable.
Great information Scott! I think that most of the negative comments here are from people that spend more time trolling YT vids than they spend with a wrench in their hand! And they probably all voted for Joe Bidumb and Caramel Useless..
Being the owner of a real fb that I recently restored I find this topic interesting. I agree with everything you have said in this video except that you failed to rake in to account all of the unique fb parts that you would need to acquire for the conversion that you likely would already have with the real fb. Glass, window trim, interior pieces, etc. Not needing any of this for my car I'm not sure what all this would cost but it has to added to the cost. What do you think it would cost to completely finish one of these conversions?
Most if the sub $20k Fastbacks I find have tons of missing parts. It’s hit or miss how much glass or interior there will be at that price point. Just looked at a 1967 FB that was $18k no glass, one door missing, no interior no front fenders, rusted rear quarters. The valuation of FB’s is on the rise. That makes the conversion even more of a good idea. As far as completing the car It really depends on the builder. If the builder wants to really try to do a fastback clone they can but so many who go this route aren’t trying to make a duplicate fastback as much a having the fastback body style and modify the rest. Most want a fastback that they can drive and not be in a car that $50k and up. For me I’m doing a very modified car with tons of modern components. My objective and budget is finished and driving for under $20k.
Hi Scott. I really enjoyed your coupe and fastback conversion. I am the average guy, some mechanical skills but not enough to do any cutting nor do I have the space. The garage house my wife's RR and my '18 GT PP1. My dad owned a 67 FB when I was young and that's how I became in love with mustangs. I was going to trade my "18 for the "24 Dar horse until I saw your video. I'm not gonna lie, I wish that I had the time to enjoy the satisfaction of doing this my self, but that's not reality. I work 8-5 and I don't have the time to do such a time consuming project. If you're married like me, you know that other priorities come first. I would rather the experts do such detailed and persist work for me. Like you mentioned, I could get someone to do the body (conversion), the suspension, brake system, drive train, and I would like to put a new coyote w/ 10speed in it. Also, I would like to put the '18+ dash and interior inside. I 'm thinking the interior could be got from a wrecked parts car. Excluding paint and wheels/tires, how much do you think this can be done for? roughly.
Hey Friend, The market for conversions is really complex presently. I'm going to paint with a broad brush with this answer. The conversion all in at a shop is $10-$12k that should include parts. That is a simple conversion and does not include floor pans, floor supports, or any other metal work. All of that would be extra. I have no idea where to start with the drivetrain, but I would estimate $12-15k for that. The finish work on the car such as body work and paint, windows, interior, wiring and such could be another $10k or more depending on what you are wanting. It's all subjective though and very dependent on the parts and builder you choose. I would say $35k or so for the work and parts would be a low ball park. That wouldn't include the original car cost. Some will say: "Why put $35k in a coupe to fastback conversion?" the simple answer would be the base rust bucket fastback would cost you what the entire conversion would cost before you started the work. In the end if you buy a coupe for $5-10K you have a finished car under $50k with a late model drivetrain and motor as well as new creature comforts. The same work using a Fastback as the base car would easily be $30k more because of the original car cost. The coupe converted would be worth about what you have in it plus a little more, the fastback would be worth what you have in it plus a little more. In the end the fastback is worth more but cost more. It's a wash at the profit line.
@@ScottHarness1 Thank you my friend for your knowledge and advice. That is a great number for me if I can get all of the done. I don't want this build to be a resale for later profit. I want to enjoy it. Hopefully I can reach out to you you when I'm ready to move forward.
hello sir , ive alwayn each quarter and a bunch of surface rust but zero cancer absolutly zeros wanted a FB. Ive had 2 square backs , a 67 and a 70. im a 40 yr start tyo finish body guy that specialized in structural panel replacement. unibody and full frame repairs, ive been looking at the conversion route for 6 months, judt as long as i bought my last67 (second one so this is my 3rd coupe) this one iis nice it has all its origanol quarters ,wheel houses and rockers with only a silver dollar size patch . it has no options am i a fool to cut it up origanol 289,c4, no air no power windows.? i have a 4 bay shop in new york doing daily repair work and [ersonal restos there. i might slide one or 2 of these a year if i can get help with the ins and outs? looking forward to speaking with you.thank you resprctfully M.Stufano.
Hey Mike, it’s a super rewarding adventure converting these cars. I am doing a video in the summer using the coupe inner structures with a panel bridge that I make. You can convert the sheet metal from the coupe to the fastback for about $2k. I’ll publish a guide, make parts available, and do a video series… it’s going to be epic.
@@ScottHarness1 I apologize for my sloppy tying,my laptop is on the fritz and I was closing down at the same time. I have a decent back log of jobs but surely would not complain of having senior experienced in these models offering assistance with the more productive ways for the vehicles to flow, being available for consult has me pretty excited! Especially with this article having some days on it your comment timing shows your motivated to bey these ars driving again, not sitting going to rust as they were, I don’t have to say that with a Different roofline these cars will be driven a lot more than they were.A little off topic but I’m doing a 49 Ford F1 on a Fatman chassis rite now, I’m putting a 67-69 mustang a/c dash in it now! I could go on but I won’t.Looking forward to the. Ext time we speak
First off, awesome videos! Own a 68 coupe and I’m looking to do this conversion. Located in Southern California, do you know any shops here that offer this type of work?
I don't really know of a shop in your area. I have thought about building a network of shops that do the conversion that I could recommend in various areas but haven't gotten that nailed down yet.
You are correct, some buyers will NOT care that the car was once a coup. I have a 68 coup and would never convert it because it is way too good shape. But paying stupid amounts of money for a real fastback is up to the buyer, be my guest if that is your desire in my view. Also people are stupid, there will be guys out there that will create what I call "paint job cars" they will paint over rust, do shit body work that will look good for the first 5 months after painted. NO, do your own work, create your own value. Your series will do well for those who can !
Yeah that's the current going rate...I wouldn't doubt that increasing as parts increase. Gas prices and shipping complications are all going to be a factor soon...
You sure can they are $17,500 plus shipping for the shell alone. Moreover the small parts that will be on the coupe will save you literally thousands. It’s a more expensive way.
My grandma sold my grandpas near perfect 1969 fastback for 10k before he passed because it was in his will to go to me. He had dementia so he had no idea and she told me after he passed
Since you are removing the coupe structure, any way you can sell me the structural parts that go under the sail panel/B pillar? The ones that weld to the top of the wheelhouse. Both of mine are rusted out on my 67 coupe and I cannot find anyone that remakes that part.
I have a 64.5 Coupe with no title. Didn't realize at the time how much of a mess it can be, because I'm in Utah, a state that tends to be more lenient, and just assumed it would be easier. I've learned the car came from a scrapyard in Wyoming, so the title may not even exist anymore. I'm recently discovering the guys here on TH-cam that swap old chassis onto modern a Mustang chassis. The way I see it, I can either title it as a modern Mustang (though there might be issues if I were to buy a wrecked salvage Mustang, trying to get it inspected and converted to rebuilt/reconstructed), or get it titled as a kit car or specially assembled vehicle, similar to a homemade trailer. Do you have experience with chassis swaps with these Mustangs? Any recommendations? What about companies like Lost Title Solutions, where they track down the title for a price? Are those options worth anything?
I don’t have experience in that but the title stuff is complex and needs to be handled with detail. There are criminal implications otherwise and our current government would love to prosecute well intended people.
I saw an S-code 67 fastback on eBay. It was in horrible condition. No floor. No front fenders, Dented roof and B pillar, no axles, no wheels, no engine. It sold for just over $15,000. But hey, at least it had a clean title.
I HAD A 1965 CONVERTIBLE MUZZ ,,, BUT,,, I WANTED TO MAKE A FASTBACK HARD TOP FOR IT WELL SMALL PROBLEM YOU CANT OPEN THE BOOT HAHA , BUT GOT OVER IT, IT JUST PLAIN OLD SAT ON THE BODY WITH SOME CORVETTE HARDTOP PINS ETC AND LOCKED ON I HAD TO MAKE (ADJUST) THE VETTE (C3 ) HARD TOP TO FIT ,,, USING THE OLD MUZZ FASTBACK WRECK I BOUGHT FOR ,,,EEEEEEEK £400, NOT EASY BUT I DID IT, I SHAPED THE HARD TOP TO A FASTBACK STYLE (THE VETTE TOP IS METAL) , AND TRIMMED IT (ITS MY JOB) AND ADDED THE REAR WINDOW FROM THE OLD STANG (CHOP A BIT OFF HERE AND THERE,) THE FRONT OF THE HOOD WAS HINGED SO YOU COULD LIFT AND PROP THE TOP OPEN, SO YOU COULD OPEN THE BOOT (TRUNK) AND FASTEN IT DOWN WITH NASCAR HOOD PINS , SO WHY DIDNT I USE THE OLD FASTBACK WRECKED ROOF, THINKING ABOUT IT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER, BUT WAS OFFERED MONEY FOR THE OLD MUZZ AS IT WAS (WINDOWLESS) BUT PRETTY BENT I SOLD IT 12 YEARS LATER FOR £30,000 ,(WELL CHUFFED) AND IT TURNED UP IN PALE BLUE WITH STRIPES , AND FETCHED 120,000 DOLLARS IN USA AND IT SAID THE ONLY ONE OFF SOFT TOP FASTBACK MUSTANG IN THE WORLD ,,, PHEW , ITS DO ABLE , TRY IT THIS WAS BACK IN THE 80'S, THERES A SOFT TOP NEAR WHERE I LIVE ,ALL IN BITS 7 GRAND AND RUSTLESS,,,,,,SHOULD I DO IT AGAIN)?????????YES BUT THIS TIME ILL BUY THE FASTBACK KIT THEN IT WILL BE A DODDLE , KEITH HARDING UK
I have a 66 mustang coupe I want to convert. Are they the same body making it possible to make it a 67-68 fastback with the parts list you offer or is it completely different since a different year? Thanks you
No, unfortunately they are different. I have a 1965 coupe that I considered converting and doing a series on but that is way in the future. I may do a list for that year model as well just haven’t done it yet. What you can do… use the parts names on the list and look up the parts numbers for your year based on the names. The names are the same but the numbers are unique for 1964-66, 1967-68, 1969-70, 1971-73.
Is it possible to even build a coupe for under 20 k anymore considering I can’t even find rusty cars in Ireland considering import fees if you were to import one in here it’s crazy
I have a 68 coupe with a front left frame rail that’s rotted out and be been wanting to covert it to a fast back but would it be any easier to buy a more modern roller and swap the body?
The body swap in to a modern chassis in my opinion is much more difficult and specialized. People have done it but the newer Mustangs are both wider and different wheelbases as well. Not to say it can't be done it can, but you need to be prepared for the process.
Still the best way to have a Fastback, all the prices have risen but still not as expensive as a VIN fastback and you get a better car in the end. Some will argue the resale is less, and that is true depending on the parts you use in the car, but the investment in a VIN fastback is so much more.
You can and it would be stronger because the convertible has a better inner frame however a convertible is valued close to a fastback, so you might convert it and in the end the convertible would have been worth more restored than converted.
The parts were reasonable a year or so ago, but now the parts and shipping is through the roof. Not sure how we are going to survive this terrible government and economy.
I’m not really sure. Probably would have really look at the variations in the body. I bet that build would be better to go with a donor fastback car rather than replacing parts. Anything’s possible…
I understand what he’s saying and I like his videos and appreciate what he’s doing, but here in the western states, you’re not finding good condition coupes for $2,700. Furthermore, the interior parts for a fastback conversion are another $3,000-$4,000. We converted my brothers 67, it’s easy to do, but he spent $8k on a coupe six banger, then another $9-$10k to do the complete conversion (interior and exterior). It is definitely cheaper than buying an original, but do your homework, based on my experience it’s not as cheap as it sounds, and unless you are in a large metro that has a big classic car appetite, selling old mustang parts from the coupe isn’t that easy.
You can build a fastback for much less. Especially the coupe purchase. I just did a quick search of market place and found five coupes $2500 or less. They were In Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas. You can source a complete interior for a Fastback less the front seats for under $1500. You can spend as much as you want but there are ways of spending much less. For instance you can use your coupe interior and just add the vent panels. The numbers I used were real numbers and what I actually spent. I have helped dozens of people do the same. I do agree on doing the homework part.
I need help , I am looking for a 1967-68 Ford Mustang fastback as a project car. Unfortunately there are almost none in Germany. Where do I have to look in the USA. Are there any special internet sites ?
That's good to know. I'm curious how much interest in Germany. My daughter just got married and will be with her husband stationed in Germany. I'll have to ask her what if any conditions on bringing over a car.
I have just published an illustrated parts guide book complete with pro tips, illustrations, measurements, and parts numbers. You can download it here: coupetofastback.gumroad.com/l/fjoxw
Scott Harness: I have a 1967 True 200 cid Secretary's Mustang. How, Easy or Difficult to remove the body?
For a guy who said he’s not gonna waste your time, you wasted a-lot of time repeatedly saying what your not going to say , first quarter of the video is nothing
You can lien sale a car and get a title or get a tow company to help you do it in more restrictive states
Why does the title say 6 and you say 7 so
Definitely please continue this series! I’m 22 and my dad is 53, I’ve always wanted to be able to build and give him a 68 fastback for his 60th birthday/retirement. This is a way I could get that done!!
What a great goal!!! I will be posting one a week maybe two. Thank you for the interest!
New video just up. th-cam.com/video/iKa3bt7Srso/w-d-xo.html
16:15 i'l be 64 in 2 months do one for me too!
I am a fourth-grade Korean student majoring in mechanical engineering. I am planning to stay in Canada for a year to build an Eleanor based on the first generation Mustang Coupe and bring it to Korea. The budget is $50,000. Currently I am watching a lot of restoration videos and getting motivated. Thank you for your great videos.
That’s awesome. Post pictures when you get started! Praying for you.
This is a little confusing for Americans because 4th grade for us is elementary school, like 10-11 years old. I'm guessing you mean college? Like 4th year?
Damn i was still playing with my power rangers in fourth grade, when I could’ve been building a fast back
My husband is so lucky. He has a 69 FB in the garage...... its so nice.
Yes! They are getting harder and harder to find that are in good shape.
Looking forward to this! At 22 (1977) i bought mine. Red/red 67 GT 390 4 spd. Pass everything but a gas station. Paid $1085. Yeah. Loved that car
I think all of us have those memories and that’s maybe what motivates us to build one.
Man you're so cool...God Bless
The 67 Fastback is my dreamcar and you've encouraged 10x more to aquire one.......Much love
Thank you my friend!!!! If I can help answer questions or whatever let me know.
how much did you pay for it to begin with
the following year.......69 they knocked it outta the park. cant believe they would try to recreate this but not the iconic legend that was 69 fb
Please continue with the series! Im definitely interested in doing this. Im always eager to learn all there is about these fastbacks. Finally someone willing to educate about this process
Absolutely! New video will be up every Monday!
Just posted another video in this series today. th-cam.com/video/iKa3bt7Srso/w-d-xo.html
Do it!! I'm giving a 70 Mach 1 to my father for his 70th next month
I hit a home run a year ago i found a barn find 65 2 + 2 manufacturer daye is September 18 1964 so it is one of the first few weeks of fastback production. Solid numbers matching car. C code 4 speed. The intior looks almost new. No rips no tears no cracks in dash. 10k the older gentleman i got it from didn't know the current market price or this car would have cost 30k
That is an incredible deal. Always a good investment.
Thanks Pastor Scott, I traded a 4post lift for a 68 and 67 coupe and they are ROUGH, but not to be dissuaded I’m going forward the coupe for my wife and the fastback conversion for me, I was an aircraft mechanic for years before switching to HVAC, yes I know your asking why, another story another time. I love the Lord and wanted more time for Him, anyways thank you for this series, most videos just gloss over the actual process and for a knuckle dragged like me I need things explained to me like a six year old. Oh by the way my name is Bennie Collins and I’m the cofounder of Smoky Mountain Stangs in Sevierville Tennessee I have had a few mustangs and think these cars are the best.
I love it! Two GREAT projects. Keep me updated on your progress. Is Smoky Mountain Stangs a local group or is it open beyond local? I looked it up on FB and I think you guys are a local group. I bet driving through the Smoky Mountains would be an incredible trip in a vintage mustang mod.
@@ScottHarness1 I think so to, we do a lot of cruises, come visit you won’t be disappointed, I approved your membership on Facebook, and we’re excited to see more videos about the mustangs and your ministry. Thanks again for the great content.
@@jjmommelcollins3877 Thank you for the add, I think a bucket list deal would be after I get my car finished to come and do a run with you guys!
Subscribed. Man I’ve wanted a fastback forever but don’t think I’ll ever save the money to get one. Thank you for this!!
The conversion is seriously the most economical way and it is much less difficult than most believe.
How does somebody who says “I won’t waste your time!” And “I’ll get right into it!” Numerous times within the first minute of the video take so long to get into the actual topic of the video 😂
If you think watching a video is hard don’t even try this Mustang conversion. It’ll take way more than a minute! 😜
Scott Gotem lol
@@ScottHarness1 or get to the point
…proceeds to not get right into it for 19:01…
He should get into politics with all that hot air. 🔥
I've been on the fence about doing this simply because I'm a beginner. I am now going to give it a shot
With the information in so many of these videos and a community of help here you can do this!
💯 correct on rusty fastbacks being expensive as hell. From California looking nationwide
It has done nothing but gotten worse. Today just titles are valuable.
This has always been a dream car. I grew up in a small town everyone knows everyone. My dad was working for a mechanic down the road named Willy. One day during the summer I went with my dad to work (I was probably 12-13). While they were working on the race car I wondered into a different section of the barn. Using the flashlight on my phone wondering around stacks of tires, old motors, car panels, and then BOOM… there she sat.. a 68 Ford Mustang.. it wasn’t the fastback, but I still fell in love with it. I gave it a proper look through and walked back into the main shop. (The car was all original, but hadn’t ran in years and was parked in shop for 18 years). I then asked Willy what I have to do for that car to which he responded “Get your son out of my shop he’s snooping too much”. I didn’t know he had that one I only ever heard about the 71 Mach 1 he had all original and immaculate shape. He kept that in the house garage I never saw it. Willy was a well respected mechanic and man in our community. Unfortunately he passed in 2022 and all his stuff has been going through auction. The 68’ sold for $2200 at auction sadly I was unable to purchase it at the time. R.I.P. Willy
What a cool story...Man that was cheap.
@@ScottHarness1 thank you for taking the time to read it
Owning a fastback was always a dream of mines , this is perfect
Seriously this is a way to make it happen.
This is awesome! I didn't even know you could convert a coupe to fastback and the fastback is my dream car. I was just gonna settle for a notch back but now I'm definitely gonna try this when I get one
Yes, it is absolutely the best way to have an incredible Fastback!
I love the fast forward feature on this app!
I’m going to do this, just trying to decide between mechanic school or auto collision school (my main focus is on sheet metal since I want a reliable car with a unique body)
Scott, your on the money with your knowledge...I'm in Cali and my buddy owns over a 100 original mustangs and fastbacks, 25k for a roller is only if your lucky loll, real mustang guys won't argue with you because they know what you know, only the trolls talk smack. I have a 69 coupe and a 67 cougar, and their both amazing. great work on the build
Are any of those 100 for sale. Im looking to buy a 65-67 fastback asap. Has the run great tho. But not perfect exterior. But preferably a straight body. Doesnt need to have a paint job
@@OfficialXPage yes they are. Absolutely...look up MustangMD out in Castaic CA, his name is Paul. Tell him I sent you,
Absolute facts!
Im a 100% Mopar guy. But this makes me want to build fastbacks on the side to fund my Mopar projects!!
Heck yeah. It is such a rewarding build.
You appear to be GENUINELY passionate about these builds. That’s rare in todays social media platforms. Subscribed.
We’ll thank you! That’s super encouraging!
@@ScottHarness1 good morning Sir, do you do any of these conversations for anyone else.
there's a company where i live making classic broncos completely aftermarket selling for like up to 250k. These are new cars built in 2023 with no original vin. I think fastbacks will reach that point. As the market gets smaller and smaller ppl are still going to want them. Of course those broncos have the 5.0 coyote and dana 60 axles, and the complete works
I absolutely believe you are right. The price point for the conversions are sky rocketing. The parts will become super expensive soon enough. Fastback mustangs as far as muscle cars go are way more expensive than the others (not talking about very unique cars but general muscle cars) with that price point and people's desire to have one it makes sense that they will be a reproduction car soon.
Keep it coming Scott! Interested to see your pov on converting. Agreed the FB vin’s are out of control (I’ve seen $30k for rust bucket rollers!) although we’ll see if that holds once inflation levels out again. Used autos are +40% vs last year! 🤯 Great time to build cheap and sell high
Thank you Alex, you are absolutely right. The high valuation of Fastbacks makes the conversion so much more viable.I hope I can flatten the learning curve so the average joe can tackle it.
It's absolute BS on prices of rust bucket FBs and Chargers. 9 times out of 10 you go to look at one and it's at a mobile home meth lab.
I always love the non talking part about building or restoring cars. The talking part....? ...I skip😂 or fast forward.
I bought my own 70 fastback about 10 to 15 years ago had a 4 speed with a good running 302 V8 had some rust on rear quarters but I replaced them done some body work and repainted it and recovered the seats new rack and pinion steering new carb new 3 wall radiator new crime bumpers . I gave $1500 for it I have about $5 or 6 k in it but it's worth that and more .
Way more!!!
Hi Scott definitely going to follow you i just bought myself i believe a California special 1968 coupe GT with original A/C power steering and foglamps 289 engine
Man that's great, welcome to the family. We'll all learn a lot along the way I bet. Thank you.
Hey looking forward to the A to Z FB project!!!
I have owned my current FB since 1992. I love it
Got a couple here for 2500 good shape roller it's rough in a few places but I feel as I stood it it was raining and driving and some 1 took it all part it need a few sheet metal it was thinking about making a fast back but your so right about cost to Profit ratio Looking to make money off this car eventually
Seriously the conversion is the most profitable solution. It’s getting even better as Fastbacks continue to climb in value.
This is awesome!…I’m really looking forward to following this channel and hopefully maybe getting my dream car using these methods! thanks!
Thank you! You can do it!
Actually already have a 67 coupe and am doing this. I also have a wrecked 2012 i am kicking around the idea about using the roller front end frame and floorboard under it
Will definitely be watching. Haven’t order conversion kit yet
Next video will go up Monday, it’s about selecting the right coup to convert but I am working on a video on what exactly you need to order for the conversion. It should be out in a couple weeks. Wait for it before you order, there are things you don’t need and can save you a ton. There are also ways to couple any other big parts and save big on shipping.
@@ScottHarness1 coupe, not coup
Happy I found this great video, I just purchased a coup and that same fastback kit, definitely need all the info I can find
Yes! I will be posting a video each week showing the process in hopes that I can save you time and money!
Wow great job please invest and continue these videos
Thank you! Just posted my latest video today. th-cam.com/video/iKa3bt7Srso/w-d-xo.html
I really need a 67...I'll be complete
Yes!!! And honestly with the sky rocketing prices of VIN Fastbacks the conversion is the absolute best way to have one.
Scott, love your videos! Where would I find a fastback like the ones you build available for purchase already built.
I see them on Marketplace from time to time. A buildable fastback is in the $20-30k range.
Man, keep this all on the down low! I’ve been wanting to do this but now everybody is gonna snatching up the coupes.
LOL. There are more than a few of those old coupes taking up room in fields around. Can't wait to see what you do with one of them. Blessings my friend.
If you can, find Mercury Cougars. Same as a Mustang, but more unique. Otherwise, this way of building a fastback makes a lot of sense.
Glad you’re doing this series. Question, will this series be on building up to just a roller? I can understand that just being 7k min.
My plan is to complete the build of the 1968 with the same theme, affordable, street-able build. I’m toying around at converting a 1965 coup to fastback as well…
This was always my dream car, rather go the coupe way and build it like you did🔥
Absolutely! I think my goal with these videos was to show how common people like us that it is very possible to have a fastback. Thanks for the comment and feedback!
Thank you I really enjoy your videos. They’re extremely insightful and inspiring.
I know your videos talk about 67 - 68 fastback conversions, but would the general principles and layout be the same for 69? Would you happen to have any information on doing this to a 69? Also, if you would happen to have any part breakdowns , recommendations, or anything along those lines, it would be a huge help, and I would be extremely grateful. I’m having trouble finding much information on conversion for 69 Thank you.
Everything would apply, but the 69 is a different car so there would be some variances. If you already own a coupe of that year it might be worth it but I still see 1969 fastbacks that are reasonable.
Any recommendations on where to look? Websites etc. I haven’t been able to find anything around my area. Thank you
Where’s part 2 to this ? I really enjoyed it ❤ 🇬🇧
The entire series is in that play list. Thank you for the comments!
The how starts at 2:45
Scott I live in SLC I’m driving over to Lost Socket as we speak!
Great guys, tell them I said hey.
I had a 67 Mustang coupe but sold it back in the 80's, I'd prefer another coup if I could find one. as I don't like the fast back.
Great information Scott! I think that most of the negative comments here are from people that spend more time trolling YT vids than they spend with a wrench in their hand! And they probably all voted for Joe Bidumb and Caramel Useless..
LOL! truth!
I like it. Seems pretty accurate, look forward to future videos!
Thank you! There are more to come. Think it’ll really help the learning curve for the conversion.
Being the owner of a real fb that I recently restored I find this topic interesting. I agree with everything you have said in this video except that you failed to rake in to account all of the unique fb parts that you would need to acquire for the conversion that you likely would already have with the real fb. Glass, window trim, interior pieces, etc. Not needing any of this for my car I'm not sure what all this would cost but it has to added to the cost. What do you think it would cost to completely finish one of these conversions?
Most if the sub $20k Fastbacks I find have tons of missing parts. It’s hit or miss how much glass or interior there will be at that price point. Just looked at a 1967 FB that was $18k no glass, one door missing, no interior no front fenders, rusted rear quarters. The valuation of FB’s is on the rise. That makes the conversion even more of a good idea. As far as completing the car It really depends on the builder. If the builder wants to really try to do a fastback clone they can but so many who go this route aren’t trying to make a duplicate fastback as much a having the fastback body style and modify the rest. Most want a fastback that they can drive and not be in a car that $50k and up. For me I’m doing a very modified car with tons of modern components. My objective and budget is finished and driving for under $20k.
Hi Scott. I really enjoyed your coupe and fastback conversion. I am the average guy, some mechanical skills but not enough to do any cutting nor do I have the space. The garage house my wife's RR and my '18 GT PP1. My dad owned a 67 FB when I was young and that's how I became in love with mustangs. I was going to trade my "18 for the "24 Dar horse until I saw your video. I'm not gonna lie, I wish that I had the time to enjoy the satisfaction of doing this my self, but that's not reality. I work 8-5 and I don't have the time to do such a time consuming project. If you're married like me, you know that other priorities come first. I would rather the experts do such detailed and persist work for me. Like you mentioned, I could get someone to do the body (conversion), the suspension, brake system, drive train, and I would like to put a new coyote w/ 10speed in it. Also, I would like to put the '18+ dash and interior inside. I 'm thinking the interior could be got from a wrecked parts car. Excluding paint and wheels/tires, how much do you think this can be done for? roughly.
Hey Friend, The market for conversions is really complex presently. I'm going to paint with a broad brush with this answer. The conversion all in at a shop is $10-$12k that should include parts. That is a simple conversion and does not include floor pans, floor supports, or any other metal work. All of that would be extra. I have no idea where to start with the drivetrain, but I would estimate $12-15k for that. The finish work on the car such as body work and paint, windows, interior, wiring and such could be another $10k or more depending on what you are wanting. It's all subjective though and very dependent on the parts and builder you choose. I would say $35k or so for the work and parts would be a low ball park. That wouldn't include the original car cost. Some will say: "Why put $35k in a coupe to fastback conversion?" the simple answer would be the base rust bucket fastback would cost you what the entire conversion would cost before you started the work. In the end if you buy a coupe for $5-10K you have a finished car under $50k with a late model drivetrain and motor as well as new creature comforts. The same work using a Fastback as the base car would easily be $30k more because of the original car cost. The coupe converted would be worth about what you have in it plus a little more, the fastback would be worth what you have in it plus a little more. In the end the fastback is worth more but cost more. It's a wash at the profit line.
@@ScottHarness1 Thank you my friend for your knowledge and advice. That is a great number for me if I can get all of the done. I don't want this build to be a resale for later profit. I want to enjoy it. Hopefully I can reach out to you you when I'm ready to move forward.
Here in Australia a coupe roller is around 20k
I have heard that…it’ll be worth more in the end as well.
Hi Scott, I have been watching your video's and would like to have the list you were showing about what to look for in buying the right coupe.
Hey Randy, I’ve made a complete guide out of it and you can get a copy of that here: coupetofastback.gumroad.com/l/ihntlv
hello sir , ive alwayn each quarter and a bunch of surface rust but zero cancer absolutly zeros wanted a FB. Ive had 2 square backs , a 67 and a 70. im a 40 yr start tyo finish body guy that specialized in structural panel replacement. unibody and full frame repairs, ive been looking at the conversion route for 6 months, judt as long as i bought my last67 (second one so this is my 3rd coupe) this one iis nice it has all its origanol quarters ,wheel houses and rockers with only a silver dollar size patch . it has no options am i a fool to cut it up origanol 289,c4, no air no power windows.? i have a 4 bay shop in new york doing daily repair work and [ersonal restos there. i might slide one or 2 of these a year if i can get help with the ins and outs? looking forward to speaking with you.thank you resprctfully M.Stufano.
Hey Mike, it’s a super rewarding adventure converting these cars.
I am doing a video in the summer using the coupe inner structures with a panel bridge that I make. You can convert the sheet metal from the coupe to the fastback for about $2k. I’ll publish a guide, make parts available, and do a video series… it’s going to be epic.
@@ScottHarness1 I apologize for my sloppy tying,my laptop is on the fritz and I was closing down at the same time. I have a decent back log of jobs but surely would not complain of having senior experienced in these models offering assistance with the more productive ways for the vehicles to flow, being available for consult has me pretty excited! Especially with this article having some days on it your comment timing shows your motivated to bey these ars driving again, not sitting going to rust as they were, I don’t have to say that with a Different roofline these cars will be driven a lot more than they were.A little off topic but I’m doing a 49 Ford F1 on a Fatman chassis rite now, I’m putting a 67-69 mustang a/c dash in it now! I could go on but I won’t.Looking forward to the. Ext time we speak
Keep it rolling mate !
Thank you!!!
I am a regular joe and I want to build a fastback mustang. Thank you!
You can do it!
how can I like this video 6000 times?
That's awesome! Thank you.
Subscribed!!! Looking to do one of these next year
It really is much more in the reach of people than dropping the cash a VIN fastback is getting now.
First off, awesome videos! Own a 68 coupe and I’m looking to do this conversion. Located in Southern California, do you know any shops here that offer this type of work?
I don't really know of a shop in your area. I have thought about building a network of shops that do the conversion that I could recommend in various areas but haven't gotten that nailed down yet.
Any chance you have a recommendation for a shop in my area to undertake this project? I live in Virginia Beach, VA. Love the videos. Thanks
Unfortunately I don't. Shops are really hard to find. So sorry...
Keep going with your channel, brother!!
Thank you my friend.
You are correct, some buyers will NOT care that the car was once a coup. I have a 68 coup and would never convert it because it is way too good shape. But paying stupid amounts of money for a real fastback is up to the buyer, be my guest if that is your desire in my view.
Also people are stupid, there will be guys out there that will create what I call "paint job cars" they will paint over rust, do shit body work that will look good for the first 5 months after painted. NO, do your own work, create your own value. Your series will do well for those who can !
Truth and more truth.
Thanks for the shout out Scott. You are doing great work!!!
We need to do an episode together soon...Show some tricks of the trade. You guys are the best.
@@ScottHarness1 done and done my friend
Looking forward to the build
Thank you!!! You guys really make it worth it.
I got a guy in Lake Havasu that does the conversion for around 10k including metal so your about there.
Yeah that's the current going rate...I wouldn't doubt that increasing as parts increase. Gas prices and shipping complications are all going to be a factor soon...
I’m in Utah and you have my attention. Can you share the details of your Utah contact for the roller?
Lost Socket Garage builds them in your neck of the woods. Great guys.
As i am watching this. I just bought 2 fastbacks for 14k total. But it took me forever. My last fastback i paid 14k just for rust bucket.
I think you could sit in a fastback and make more money in the long haul than keeping it in the bank. Good purchases…
Good video, why not just buy a new Dynacorn Mustang Fastback shell?
You sure can they are $17,500 plus shipping for the shell alone. Moreover the small parts that will be on the coupe will save you literally thousands. It’s a more expensive way.
What do you do for a Vin number ? And you can't just rivet in a Vin from a junk yard panel
Hell with the rest of them I want the videos for me hahaha
Lol! I’m going to do a video a week maybe some shorts as well. Hope to help the learning curve and get these cars converted and back on the road!
Great video.
My grandma sold my grandpas near perfect 1969 fastback for 10k before he passed because it was in his will to go to me. He had dementia so he had no idea and she told me after he passed
Heartbreaker.
Why didn't you get the car for free ?
What's the name of the shop in Utah?
Lost Socket Garage. Great guys.
Hi, great info! Thanks!! For sharing
Thank you.
Since you are removing the coupe structure, any way you can sell me the structural parts that go under the sail panel/B pillar? The ones that weld to the top of the wheelhouse. Both of mine are rusted out on my 67 coupe and I cannot find anyone that remakes that part.
Unfortunately mine is gone already. I do have a 67 coup parts car. Let me look at it and see.
I have a 64.5 Coupe with no title. Didn't realize at the time how much of a mess it can be, because I'm in Utah, a state that tends to be more lenient, and just assumed it would be easier. I've learned the car came from a scrapyard in Wyoming, so the title may not even exist anymore.
I'm recently discovering the guys here on TH-cam that swap old chassis onto modern a Mustang chassis. The way I see it, I can either title it as a modern Mustang (though there might be issues if I were to buy a wrecked salvage Mustang, trying to get it inspected and converted to rebuilt/reconstructed), or get it titled as a kit car or specially assembled vehicle, similar to a homemade trailer. Do you have experience with chassis swaps with these Mustangs? Any recommendations? What about companies like Lost Title Solutions, where they track down the title for a price? Are those options worth anything?
I don’t have experience in that but the title stuff is complex and needs to be handled with detail. There are criminal implications otherwise and our current government would love to prosecute well intended people.
it is the most beautiful car in the world😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
I saw an S-code 67 fastback on eBay. It was in horrible condition. No floor. No front fenders, Dented roof and B pillar, no axles, no wheels, no engine. It sold for just over $15,000. But hey, at least it had a clean title.
Absolutely that is the trend!
I HAD A 1965 CONVERTIBLE MUZZ ,,, BUT,,, I WANTED TO MAKE A FASTBACK HARD TOP FOR IT
WELL SMALL PROBLEM YOU CANT OPEN THE BOOT HAHA , BUT GOT OVER IT,
IT JUST PLAIN OLD SAT ON THE BODY WITH SOME CORVETTE HARDTOP PINS ETC AND LOCKED ON
I HAD TO MAKE (ADJUST) THE VETTE (C3 ) HARD TOP TO FIT ,,, USING THE OLD MUZZ FASTBACK WRECK I BOUGHT FOR ,,,EEEEEEEK £400, NOT EASY BUT I DID IT,
I SHAPED THE HARD TOP TO A FASTBACK STYLE (THE VETTE TOP IS METAL) , AND TRIMMED IT (ITS MY JOB)
AND ADDED THE REAR WINDOW FROM THE OLD STANG (CHOP A BIT OFF HERE AND THERE,)
THE FRONT OF THE HOOD WAS HINGED SO YOU COULD LIFT AND PROP THE TOP OPEN, SO YOU COULD OPEN THE BOOT (TRUNK) AND FASTEN IT DOWN WITH NASCAR HOOD PINS , SO WHY DIDNT I USE THE OLD FASTBACK WRECKED ROOF, THINKING ABOUT IT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER, BUT WAS OFFERED MONEY FOR THE OLD MUZZ AS IT WAS (WINDOWLESS) BUT PRETTY BENT
I SOLD IT 12 YEARS LATER FOR £30,000 ,(WELL CHUFFED) AND IT TURNED UP IN PALE BLUE WITH STRIPES , AND FETCHED 120,000 DOLLARS IN USA
AND IT SAID
THE ONLY ONE OFF SOFT TOP FASTBACK MUSTANG IN THE WORLD ,,, PHEW , ITS DO ABLE , TRY IT
THIS WAS BACK IN THE 80'S, THERES A SOFT TOP NEAR WHERE I LIVE ,ALL IN BITS 7 GRAND AND RUSTLESS,,,,,,SHOULD I DO IT AGAIN)?????????YES
BUT THIS TIME ILL BUY THE FASTBACK KIT THEN IT WILL BE A DODDLE ,
KEITH HARDING UK
So if I were to send 7k to 10k you can build a FB or what would be the price ?
So sorry, I barely have time to work on mine. You’re better off following the videos and doing it yourself. You can do this!
I dig the idea
Thank you! It's the best way to have a fastback...
Yes sir Indiana is cake to get title's also they are companies that do all the work for you.
Gosh I wish every state would take Indiana's lead...
Scott Harness: I have a 1967 True 200 cid Secretary's Mustang. How, Easy or Difficult to remove the body?
There are skills involved but it’s not impossible for even a novice. Taking your time is the key…
Love to see more.
I am uploading a new video tomorrow!
@@ScottHarness1 Awesome
Interested, keep going.
Thank you!!
the car of my dream that will never come true😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
How do I get the parts list to convert the coupe to a fastback. I am really needing the measurements. I also would like the steps to doing this.
Email me at ThatPastor@gmail.com and I can send it to you.
I have a 66 mustang coupe I want to convert. Are they the same body making it possible to make it a 67-68 fastback with the parts list you offer or is it completely different since a different year? Thanks you
No, unfortunately they are different. I have a 1965 coupe that I considered converting and doing a series on but that is way in the future. I may do a list for that year model as well just haven’t done it yet. What you can do… use the parts names on the list and look up the parts numbers for your year based on the names. The names are the same but the numbers are unique for 1964-66, 1967-68, 1969-70, 1971-73.
Is it possible to even build a coupe for under 20 k anymore considering I can’t even find rusty cars in Ireland considering import fees if you were to import one in here it’s crazy
I have heard that, everything has skyrocketed.
I have a 68 coupe with a front left frame rail that’s rotted out and be been wanting to covert it to a fast back but would it be any easier to buy a more modern roller and swap the body?
The body swap in to a modern chassis in my opinion is much more difficult and specialized. People have done it but the newer Mustangs are both wider and different wheelbases as well. Not to say it can't be done it can, but you need to be prepared for the process.
I see this is a yesr ago but gking to look into doing a 68 conversion
Still the best way to have a Fastback, all the prices have risen but still not as expensive as a VIN fastback and you get a better car in the end. Some will argue the resale is less, and that is true depending on the parts you use in the car, but the investment in a VIN fastback is so much more.
Thanks for your information
Can you use a covertible
You can and it would be stronger because the convertible has a better inner frame however a convertible is valued close to a fastback, so you might convert it and in the end the convertible would have been worth more restored than converted.
Add in the shipping cost for parts, and holy hell you've got a pricey build
The parts were reasonable a year or so ago, but now the parts and shipping is through the roof. Not sure how we are going to survive this terrible government and economy.
17:31 but with a kit car reproduction car it has no VIN
Its just stamped metal parts in a crate or box how can you get a title on a DIY car?
If I provided you with a 1968 coupe what would you charge me to turn it into a fast pack
I wish I had the time. There are shops out there that do it…
Lost socket garage does them
On TH-cam
I have a 1976 Ford Mustang cobra ii, I’ve always wanted a fastback so is it possible to do a conversion on a 76 ?
I’m not really sure. Probably would have really look at the variations in the body. I bet that build would be better to go with a donor fastback car rather than replacing parts. Anything’s possible…
I understand what he’s saying and I like his videos and appreciate what he’s doing, but here in the western states, you’re not finding good condition coupes for $2,700. Furthermore, the interior parts for a fastback conversion are another $3,000-$4,000. We converted my brothers 67, it’s easy to do, but he spent $8k on a coupe six banger, then another $9-$10k to do the complete conversion (interior and exterior). It is definitely cheaper than buying an original, but do your homework, based on my experience it’s not as cheap as it sounds, and unless you are in a large metro that has a big classic car appetite, selling old mustang parts from the coupe isn’t that easy.
You can build a fastback for much less. Especially the coupe purchase. I just did a quick search of market place and found five coupes $2500 or less. They were In Missouri, Oklahoma and Arkansas. You can source a complete interior for a Fastback less the front seats for under $1500. You can spend as much as you want but there are ways of spending much less. For instance you can use your coupe interior and just add the vent panels. The numbers I used were real numbers and what I actually spent. I have helped dozens of people do the same. I do agree on doing the homework part.
Huge Mustang fan and I have to say fastbacks are cool but NOT $150,000 cool!
Agreed!
I see a Biblical series coming dealing with pain, agony, frustration and the “occasional” slip of the tongue. Can’t wait.
Lol! Yes!
I need help , I am looking for a 1967-68 Ford Mustang fastback as a project car. Unfortunately there are almost none in Germany. Where do I have to look in the USA. Are there any special internet sites ?
Internationally I really am not sure where to look...Maybe someone on here can help.
That's good to know. I'm curious how much interest in Germany.
My daughter just got married and will be with her husband stationed in Germany.
I'll have to ask her what if any conditions on bringing over a car.
how do you feel this route is compared to the dynacorn complete shelll?
Doing the conversion is more work, but way cheaper. With the Shell you will still have to have another car with a title…
@@ScottHarness1 appreciate the response really would like an all original s code but can’t seem to find one
@@ScottHarness1 No you don't. You can just register it as a replica, like you would with a GT40, Cobra, etc.