Cape Lion | 600 lb Lions?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2022
- The Cape Lion was found in South Africa till the late 1800s. What made this lion so special?
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They were magnificent lions. As a lion fanatic myself who has observed and studied African lions throughout Zimbabwe's national parks, I thoroughly wish I could have seen a Cape Lion in the flesh. Reading about them today, I wish they could have lived on in peace. At least their mighty presence continues on through their Southern African kin to this day.
You should have went to otjiwarongo namibia , there are stil cape lions a few there acure now and then , the reign of the cape lion who ran 2 herdes in krugerpark end he was kill by 3 young male lions he was near twice the size of eny other male lion in kruger park full black maines he had , i know people who work at otjiwarongo , theres a cup he looks like a cape lion ( the RSA tryd to repopulate ) as namibia and south africa was one big country there for now and then treu dna look alikes of the cape lion comes , there genetic are more cape lion then enything else they need the luck of having a male and female at the same time thenthey can reproduce the cape lion these look alikes are a result of it.. " in the way of having the cape lions dna preserved "
Are there still larger lions in Rhodesia today?,
5:18 heart breaking photo, you can see exactly how that poor lion feels on its face
Heartbreaking, yes. But it didn't look like a Cape lion, with that tawny mane. I call BS on the claim that the photo is of a Cape lion.
Fills my soul with shame and grief, our species is barbaric.
@@cjclark1208 Man is the most dangerous animal of all.
@@Averagebum21 Man is not animal, Man is human
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Sorry Bro, in biology humans are animals. Also, the comment meant that we are the most dangerous.
Sad that we lost the cape lion and barbary lion😞. They were truly magnificent
The only reliable lion officially recognized as a Cape lion ever weighed was reported in 1865, and it weighed 264 kgs (582 lbs.). But lions in this region were stated to be huge too. This is very large compared to other lions living today. Just one of them accurately weighed, and it's colossal. There is a report of Cape lion cubs. Cape lions were like Barbary lions as far as manes go. But, they were special and unique too and had tremendous size according to hunters.
Yes and they mainly hunted cape buffalo that's how they got so big. Some say the Okavango delta lions in Botswana rival the're size and probably are the biggest lions in the world on average
@@mikefitzpatrick43 Yes.
Hunters are full of stories. Camera would have been better because it never lies.
That is huge for a lion that is for sure. Even pretty big for the Bengal tiger and within the average size of a Siberian tiger. Sure don't see lions of that size today. Not even in captivity. Seems that most animals were bigger back then, then they are today. All the "largest of their kind" animals were from the 1800's to the early 1900's. There hasn't been any in recent years, (last 50 years or so.) I wonder how accurate scales were back in 1865?
What about the Atlas or Barbary lions that weight up to 700+ pounds in Northern Africa and Morocco
They’re are extinct in the wild but some are in captivity
Wow I never knew about the Cape lion I always thought that the Barbary lion was Africas biggest cat..
They are pretty equal in size. It could be argued that the Barbary lion was slightly larger but they were equal enough to be able to argue back.
while its sad that the cape lion is extinct but atlist not all lions in south Africa have gotten extinct like some other countries in fact its one of the few places on earth with a healthy growing lion population despite the horrible act of canned hunting
Lions: They are the coolest cats.
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@@m.ali.67. Yes, hello 👋
India we have both of the coolest cat..
Leopards
Will you please make a video on Asiatic lions and Their translocation.
Will try…
What translocation gujarat womt give it to anyone .
They didn't even after sc ruling
There are plenty of lions over 600lbs in the OKAVANGO DELTA and the NGORONGORO CRATER. I see them everyday. Thank you, GOD.💪❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌞🦁👑☝️♌♌♾️
And Serengeti and Masai Mara.
Yup on average the Okavango lions are the biggest
@@mikefitzpatrick43 what is their average size?
@@THELIONMAN7 not totally sure but it's not uncommon to see males around 250 killagrams. You got to understand the environment the're in. Steady year rd buffalo and swimming from island to island builds more muscle too. Even the females get bigger then a erage lions. Look them up
@@mikefitzpatrick43 are average tigers bigger than average Okavango delta lions or not ?
I hopefully that Cape Lion still alive somewhere and grow more. I live in western Cape, South Africa that where Cape Lions stayed on table Mountain and beautiful nature. Need back!
I've read "A Hunter's Wanderings in Africa" by Frederick Courteney Selous. I was a little surprised at how depleted game was in the cape region at such an early date (Selous arrived in South Africa in the early 1870s). This was apparently due to a combination of factors including the large number of European settlers (more than other parts of Africa), the widespread use of firearms among the native population and perhaps the landscape itself, which was relatively open. In fact, Selous even describes hunting from horseback, which would not have been possible in regions with lots of dense cover.
PS) You should consider doing a video on the Quagga.
Thanks for the suggestion. And interesting info... based on various sources I read, most claim the Cape Lion was hunted to extinction, while some sources say how they disappeared is a 'mystery'. But as you mentioned, local hunting may have played a part too, alongside the loss of habitat.
@@AegleCreations I think the lack of cover made lions and other big game more vulnerable to overhunting. Likewise, I'm guessing the black population of the South Africa had more firearms than other tribes/ethnic groups living farther north because they had more contact/trade with the many Boer and English settlers living in South Africa (The cooler climate and absence of many tropical diseases apparently made South Africa especially attractive to Europeans).
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Man is the greatest detriment to all life on Earth!
There is also the Panthera leo krugeri subspecies, endemic to Kruger National Park.
Also called the Transvaal lion… probably our closest living thing to a Cape lion.
Nah, just those 2 subspecies that he mention are recognized in today times...
Now it's possible that Forrest Galante and his team may have found an individual that presumably has traces of Cape Lion genetics though DNA testing.
Not to be a wet blanket, but I sometimes think what a pity it is that we humans haven't learned to live with so many of the interesting species around us, particularly the large predators and herbivores. It's hard to imagine things more spectacular than lions or elephants or gorillas and all their cousin species. Even small children are immediately captivated just by the idea of such creatures.
Well most likely the main reason for humans not learning to live with large predators is because they eat us. There probably isn't nothing more terrifying to humans than being eaten by some animal. Lions and tigers in particular have been eating humans in large numbers for a very long time. I totally agree with you about that, just thinking of the biggest reason why. When talking about sharks, I have always said that the thought of becoming shark poop poop, was always at the top of "things that frightened me the most." I am sure like everyone else, I would much rather prefer my dead body to look the way it did when I was alive as it decayed, then be some animals dropping on the forest floor.
It’s sad how one species is responsible for the demise of many
Very nice!
"Following the arrival of European settlers, these lions were hunted for sports.... in 1858, the last Cape Lion was killed " 04:47. Anywhere these guys go, mass extinction follows.
No. Europa is very good.
Perhaps, the cape lions were truly the largest modern time lion subspecies, that went extinct, and the Barbary lions were not.... While the true largest subspecies of lions, that I'm aware of were the extinct Natodomeri lions...
They were probably not a different subspecies, but a different population of the south African lion
@@pedroroque829 -Perhaps , yes..
The major issue here is that a group of people from Europe decided to hunt for spot an animal specie till they drove it to extinction and later on wrote books. They could have just left them alone and this future generation would have experienced first hand information through safaris instead of reading books wrote by poachers
❤ I would love to see every wild animal set free to live it's life as intended ❤
Can someone do a video on the natodomeri lions 🤔
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Weights given by old time big game hunters are greatly exaggerated. Most of those hunters never carried scales into the bush and just estimated the weight. Most were ego driven estimates. Think of the "big fish" someone caught. Same thing.
Agreed…
I caught a big fish. Even bigger than you think.
Exactly, hunters are no different than fisherman and their tales always grow taller on down the line. Who knows, maybe back then, scales big enough to weigh something of that size, was always carried on the back of their pack mules. Or it may be possible that each hunter back then had the ability to lift up a part of the animal and could tell the difference between 450lbs and 550lbs just by feeling it. They say that humans have lost their sensitivity to nature over the years.
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For one… Australian “lions” was
Not even a Cat. It was more a predatory giant squirrel.
This lion may still exist if it's even a "subspecies". Because in 2018 they found a huge male lion. And huge lions are not rare. So if they are a subspecies they probably still exist
They are quite rare
That's enough to piss someone off
Surely there is some modern lions with cape lion dna
Humans also killed off the cave lion. The biggest cat ever. Please make a video on the cave lion also.
Panthrea leo anrox ..smilodon populator..and a few others were larger then pathera leo spleea ...
The cave lion lived in Europe. The biggest cat ever was the American lion which lived obviously in the Americas.
Nice vedio !
So Scar from lion king was a cape lion?
Yes,I know,that this weights are really😊.
People... 8 billion and counting... Great job with the video, though.
Stop killing lions
Humans always mess shit up
Well there has been a few astroids and volcanos that did their share messing things up. God told man to inherit the earth and that animals were put here for him. I don't think he meant for us to destroy them like we have though. Wish we had learned what we know now, a thousand years ago and maybe so many would still be here. Extinction is a part of the natural world though. We just sped it along some for some species. We don't always mess things up but we do a lot of times. We also do as much as we can to try and prevent bad things from happening. We not all of us but most of us try. There is a very big effort to help animals so we aren't all bad and messing things up.
Every bad story starts like
Following the arrival of europeans
Fun Fact: The largest Lion to ever exist was the (Cave Lion) aka The American Lion.
It went extinct at the end of the last ice age.
I know. Those cave lions were so big that they drove SUV's and heated their caves with coal. Thats what happened to the ice age when Washington state was under 2 miles of ice.
Cave lions are not the same species as these
African lions on average weigh between 390 - 440lbs according to just about every source out there. There are no 500lbs lions in the wild and if there are any, they are very rare. Only the largest captive lions reach 500lbs. To say they average 550lbs is ridiculous. The barbary lion didn't even average that and it was the biggest subspecies of lion. On average, it was 40 - 50lbs heavier than it's eastern and southern African lions. Why some people just don't get the fact that a lions mane makes it look larger than it is I will never know. It's just plain common sense. That is why the Barbary lion looked so big. It has a larger mane that extended down the length of it's belly. Just like a helmet and shoulder pads make a football player look larger than he really is, the same is with the lion. Seeing one with a shaved mane is pretty shocking and really shows it's true size. They look like a slightly larger lioness. I have been reading and watching things about big cats and bears since the early 70's. I would say about 85% of everything I have read or seen state the African lion weighs between 390 - 440lbs. There have been a few that say something different but as most of us know, the results of the many outweigh the results of the few. What is stated most often clearly means what is most likely the truth. Like any animal, there has been exceptions. What average means is what is typical, most often. The largest lion ever recorded was 616lbs and it was obese. The 690lbs lion was like a fisherman story. Much bigger than it really was. The size of any animal from back then are always exaggerated. There was a great white shark killed back in those days that was reported to be 26ft long. Recently a few experts examined the only known photo of it and estimated it to be no more than 18ft long. I got the 616lbs lion from the Guinness Book of World Records back in the 80's. A 550lbs lion in captivity is pretty rare. Same thing with the lioness. They hardly average up to 400lbs. Again, from the same hundreds of different sources I have read or seen, the top end of the average weight range for a lioness is 350lbs. I can't remember ever reading about a lioness reaching 400lbs let alone it being at the top end for the average. Again ridiculous. I just realized that this video is about the Cape lion and not about all of the African lions living today. Opps my bad. Anyway the lioness is the real bad ass when it comes to lions. They deserve the most respect. They do all the work only to have it stolen from them by the very lazy and very selfish lion. It makes me feel good when I see some lionesses ganging up on a lion. Not putting up with his bullshit. Showing him who the real boss is. I can never watch when new lions take over a pride.When they go after the cubs and kill them. I know it is how things work in nature and that all big cats do the same thing. I just can't watch it. It blows my mind that soon after that, the mothers are willing to mate with them. Again just how nature works but I can honestly say, I hate that part. I understand the Cape Lion rivaled the Barbary lion in size, but neither one was the same size as Bengal tigers and certainly not the same size as Siberian tigers. I guess I am talking about today's lion. All animals use to be larger than they are today. Back in the day, it was much harder to get an accurate size of an animal because of the lack of accurate equipment to needed to do so. Sure they had scales and such but they are no where near as accurate as they are today. Who knows if they were even used or if the size was just an estimate. It's just like the largest Bengal tiger was 856lbs and Siberian tiger was 932lbs. The largest Bengal tiger was found in the 1960's if I remember correctly. That would have been a more accurate weight due to it being more recent but still could have been off. It's hard for me to remember everything that I have learned over the years. I know I have forgotten so many things. I do know everything I have learned came from many different libraries scattered from Southern California to Boise, Idaho. 4 of which were University libraries which are filled with so much information on just about everything for obvious reasons. Who wrote a bit to much. hahahahah A problem when one types fast. What may take somebody a little while to read only took a few me a few short moments to type.
So sad they killed all them majestic beautiful king
Panthera Leo Melancholica ))
18 hours per day is in melancholy..
Looks like a lion I’d draw lol
SIBERIAN TIGERS ARE OVER 800LB
Although tigers are afraid of lions
Humans at their best😑
Cape Lion size up to 690 lbs. and 312KG compared with Siberian Tiger, Adult males can grow up to 11 feet long and weigh over 600 pounds; females are smaller -- up to nine feet long and about 370 pounds..
No official weights from that time period before 1858!!! Just estimated from “lion experts”.
Lions are not the second largest cats.
They are the largest cats in the world according to modern data.
source
Modern data, hahahahahahhahaha from what? Data that dates back to the Roman Empire days right up to recent days have always stated the Siberian tiger is the largest cat in the world by a good margin. The Bengal tiger is the second largest by a fair margin. The African lion is the third largest. This is stated in everything written and everything heard on shows. It is a fact and has been a fact for thousands of years. According to pretty much everything, the average African lion weighs between 390 - 440lbs. The average Bengal tiger between 450 - 550lbs and the average Siberian tiger between 500 - 600lbs. Any recent studies, in the last few decades, of the size of Siberian tigers has been incomplete due to the ability of scientist to find them in the wild. A recent study that some people seem to think is fact, indicate the average Siberian tiger has fallen to 450lbs. What they don't realize is that study is incomplete as well. It was based on only 21 animals which none of them were full grown tigers. Only 2 subadult tigers and the rest were tigresses. Another thing that those people are unaware of is recent reports, (in the last 5 year), are accounts of 3 sets of paw prints belonging to full grown tigers. One is estimated to weigh 700+lbs and the other two between 600 - 650lbs. One of them was seen by a local hunters who stated out of the 11 tigers he has seen in the wild, it was the biggest he had ever seen. So obviously there are still some huge tigers in the wild. Another thing, captive animals are still a part of an animals total population. Captive animals do tend to get larger than wild ones because of their study and healthy diet. But then can't grow larger than their DNA will allow. A 700lbs tiger is fairly rare but a 600 - 650lbs tiger isn't. A tiger that size is fairly common in captivity which means, if a tiger in the wild was able to find enough of it's normal prey, they would be more common there as well. The lion's DNA won't allow it to grow to that size cause if it did, there would be lions at 600lbs. For lions, the largest ones today can reach 550lbs and anything higher would be considered obese. Bengal tigers average 500lbs with the larger ones able to reach 600+lbs. You are correct about lions not being the second largest cat. They are actually third if talking about subspecies. Second if talking about just species. Sorry but you don't have more knowledge than experts and scientist. If what you said is true, then things that have been written and heard would have changed. But everything written or stated in shows recently still state the tiger is the biggest and strongest cat in the world. This is based on the thousands of sources that are available to everyone. You may have seen a show that made your claim but one or even two or three different sources saying the lion is the biggest, doesn't change the fact that everything else says the tiger is the largest. The results of the many outweigh the results of the very few. The majority rules because if more say one thing, it most likely is the truth. I hope your not one of those idiots who see something on a single show and believe it no matter how many other things say something different. That would be very foolish. Lion fanboys are well known for believing one or two sources over hundreds or even thousands of other sources. But again, that is not how reality works on this planet. The majority still rules here. There are always going to be one or two who go the other direction. Only the foolish will follow them. They are foolish and those that follow them, are the biggest fools of all. Obi Wan Kenobi from Star Wars Episode IV. Not exact words but same message. But everyone has the right to their beliefs and opinions even if they are totally wrong.
@@t74guard78 what a sad guy.
Mr copy paste.
@@t74guard78Siberian tigers largest only in modern time, because almost all lion subspecies gone extinct before modern era.
The large lions found humans to be an easier prey. They didn’t have the athleticism or endurance due to their large size to deal with the wild prey. So, so sad. I do get it but they were just being lions, no more, no less. Thanks.
Agreed. I guess it’s the same case with man-eating leopards, though nowadays they are relocated rather than being shot down.
@@AegleCreations
I wish they had been relocated. Thanks.
cape lion ausgestorben seit 1865 komplett ausgestorben barbary lion ausgestorben seit 1922
While I'd love to see a 550lb Lion on the wild, I don't wanna see one in my back yard! My bobcat isnt running! HTF, who'll dig the hole?!😂😂😂😂
Atlas Lion is 660 lbs. The largest wild lion was shot in Tanzania which has a weight of 362 kg
Barbary lions were never much bigger than African lions. I don't think they were any bigger at all. That's just hype talk from people exaggerating.
Nah, the video is right about 690 lbs, another one of the same weight was shot in South Africa... The cape lions might have being the truly largest modern time subspecies of lions, that went extinct, and the Barbary lions were not no 660 lbs on average.. While the true largest subspecies of lions, that I'm aware of were the extinct Natodomeri lions...
@@edwinreveron870 see the wikipedia of Barbary lion. It shows, an adult male Barbary lion averages a weight of 270-300 kilograms (600-660 lbs).
@@BigJFindAWay they average a weight of 270-300 kg!!!
@@Amar-Pratap -Wikipedia also said, last time I checked, that Barbary lions skeletal measurements show them to be no larger than Asiatic lions.. Wikipedia also isn't a reliable source anymore, like it once used to be, unfortunately it is filled with misleading, and incorrect information nowadays...
There are only twelve lion subspecies recognized, the †Barbary Lion (Panthera leo leo), the †Egyptian Lion (Panthera leo aegyptiaca), the †European Lion (Panthera leo fossilis), the Asiatic Lion (Panthera leo persica), the †Ceylonese Lion (Panthera leo sinhaleyus), the West African lion (Panthera leo senegalensis), the Congo Lion (Panthera leo azandica), the East African Lion (Panthera leo nubica), the Ethiopian Lion (Panthera leo roosevelti), the Katanga Lion (Panthera leo bleyenberghi), the Transvaal Lion (Panthera leo krugeri), and the †Cape Lion (Panthera leo melanochaita), this division is based on both morphology alone.
Panthera Leo has two subspecies.
Panthera Leo Leo, including the former Panthera Leo Persia, Panthera Leo Leo (Barbary) and Panthera Leo Senegalese.
Panthera Leo melanochaita includes the others.
But Europa is leo.
@N i g h t L i o n, actually, the Lion (Panthera leo) originated exclusively from Europe sharing a more recent common ancestor with the extinct European Jaguar (Panthera gombaszoegensis), therefore there are only twelve recognized subspecies of lion, with the most basal being the †European Lion (Panthera leo fossilis), then followed by the split between two clades, the Panthera leo persica group or Asiatic Lions containing the Indian Lion (Panthera leo persica) and the †Ceylonese Lion (Panthera leo sinhaleyus) and the Panthera leo leo group or African Lions containing all the subspecies endemic to Africa being the †Egyptian Lion (Panthera leo aegyptiaca), the †Barbary Lion (Panthera leo leo), the West African Lion (Panthera leo senegalensis), the Congo Lion (Panthera leo azandica), the East African Lion (Panthera leo nubica), the Ethiopian Lion (Panthera leo roosevelti), the Katanga Lion (Panthera leo bleyenberghi), the Transvaal Lion (Panthera leo krugeri), and the †Cape Lion (Panthera leo melanochaita).
@@indyreno2933 Lions first appeared in Africa. There, the ancient Fossilis lions moved into Europe. Or evolved there, anyways. The first lions in Europe gave way to the intermediate cave lion, the first Spelaea. This lesser known lion gave way to the more popular, later European cave lion. The Fossilis lions in North Asia, or Siberian area, gave way to Vereschagini, the East Siberian cave lion. Some of these would later travel through the Bering Land Bridge to North America, and some of the lions stayed in modern-day Alaska. They were still Spelaea. The ones that moved down south became Atrox.
The modern-day lion, evolved between 320000-190000 years ago. So this was after the more ancient lion group had first moved to Eurasia. After that, about 50000 years ago, the Leo Leo group evolved after some modern lions in Africa migrated north, to west, North Africa through southwestern Europe and Persia to India.
The remaining lions in southern and eastern Africa became Leo Melanochaita, ofcourse.
You have stated the former subspecies of Panthera Leo. However, there have been two real remaining subspecies. Leo Leo and Leo Melanochaita.
Cape lions are part of the South Africa lions. However, the Cape lion was named Panthera Leo Melanochaita (and only the Cape lion was named that) before. Now, this name is associated with the whole southern and eastern Africa lions. That includes the major:
South Africa (Cape (×), Timbavati, Kruger, Madikwe, etc)
Namibia (Etosha etc)
Zimbabwe
Botswana (Okavango Delta Kalahari)
East Africa (Maasai Mara, Ngorongoro Crater, Serengeti etc)
As for Leo Leo
Asiatic (Persia and India etc)
West African (Senegal, etc)
Barbary (×) (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, etc)
European (×) (Greece, Macedonia)
Basically, this happened.
The Barbary lion's and the Cape lion's former scientific name became their respective subspecies' namesake.
@N i g h t L i o n, actually, the Panthera genus now contains only four recognized species, the most basal of the four is the †African Jaguar (Panthera shawi), then followed by the Leopard (Panthera pardus), with the most recent split being between the †European Jaguar (Panthera gombaszoegensis) and the Lion (Panthera leo) so therefore, lions actually first appeared in Europe and only twelve lion subspecies are recognized, the most basal being the †European Lion (Panthera leo fossilis), then followed by the split between two clades, the Panthera leo persica group or Asiatic Lions containing the Indian Lion (Panthera leo persica) and the †Ceylonese Lion (Panthera leo sinhaleyus) and the Panthera leo leo group or African Lions containing all the subspecies endemic to Africa being the †Egyptian Lion (Panthera leo aegyptiaca), the †Barbary Lion (Panthera leo leo), the West African Lion (Panthera leo senegalensis), the Congo Lion (Panthera leo azandica), the East African Lion (Panthera leo nubica), the Ethiopian Lion (Panthera leo roosevelti), the Katanga Lion (Panthera leo bleyenberghi), the Transvaal Lion (Panthera leo krugeri), and the †Cape Lion (Panthera leo melanochaita), the cave lion and american lion are not part of the Panthera genus anymore, the former belongs to the genus Uncia along with the currently living snow leopard and tiger and other fossil species like the tibetan jaguar, east asian lion, longdan tiger, and chinese jaguar, while the latter belongs to the genus Jaguarius, which contains all roaring cat species found only in the New World like the currently living jaguar and the extinct yucatan leopard, both genera Uncia and Jaguarius are more closely related to the clouded leopards (genus Neofelis) with the latter being the sister genus to clouded leopards, whereas the Panthera genus is the most basal and distantly related from all the other groups.
@@indyreno2933 No, I'm confident that lions did not evolve in Europe. It was ancient African lions that moved there. The scientific names you are using are also outdated (2017). Panthera Leo Leo was also never African lions, as a whole. The term was for the northern clade of modern lions. European lions are also of many; Fossilis, Spelaea, Leo Leo (Europa).
American lions (Atrox) most definitely DO NOT fall in the "uncia" genus. They are Panthera. I believe you are mistaken.
I don't know about all the different subspecies of Lions. But I do know there were many "experts" who wanted to become famous. The "experts" used to claim there were 9 Tiger subspecies. Now through DNA analysis, the "experts" say they're only two Tiger subspecies. One thing that is a fact, the "experts" will literally go to extreme measures; in order to justify research grant funding, to continue their adventurous lifestyle.
What about the Barbary lions? Allegedly much bigger than any lion subspecies out there.
IN reality, on average 40 - 50lbs larger. Their mane was much bigger and ran the length of it's underbelly. The lions mane makes it look larger than it really is and having a larger mane, the barbary lion looked even bigger. Think of a helmet and shoulder pads and how it makes a football player look bigger than he really is. Well it is the same with lions and their manes. Not sure how anyone can miss that fact. It is right out in front of everybody. I have seen a lion with a shaved mane before and seeing their true size is quite shocking. They look like a slightly larger lioness. With the other 3 big cats, their true size is always visible as is the lioness. The lion's true size can't truly be seen unless mane is removed. That is why some people feel the lion is bigger than the tiger despite everything ever written or heard on shows stating that tigers are the biggest cat in the world. Looking at them, the lion looks bigger than the Bengal tiger because of the mane. Many people don't know that science over and over again have found out tigers have more muscle mass and density than the lion. Biology tells us that means more weight and strength and power. Muscle weighs more than fat. So although the lion looks bigger, it isn't. Seeing the lion next to a Siberian tiger, the tiger looks much bigger than the lion despite it's mane. Siberian tigers are actually closer to the size of bears than it is to other big cats. They are enormous animals. They don't come up to a persons waist, they come up to their chests.
@@t74guard78In reality, scientist and experts didn't have better chance to study and discover more about cape and Barbary lions, because they gone extinct earlier than Siberian tigers.
@@t74guard78In reality, scientist and experts didn't have better chance to study and discover more about cape and Barbary lions, because they gone extinct earlier.
They hunted them for trophies, fools alway destroying what they can't creat nor made.
That is larger than Siberian tigers
Nah, wild Siberian tigers average seem more, at around 650 lbs for males..
@@edwinreveron870 siberian tigers average 550 lbs
@@PG_FISHING -That's the average weight estimate given for male Bengal tigers, not male Siberian tigers...
@@edwinreveron870 The most recent study of wild Siberian Tigers they weighed on average 450lbs. I saw a video of several Siberian Tigers in zoos. They weighed them and their weight was under 450lbs average.
@@kevinthomes1046 -And I also have seen videos, of captive Siberian tigers, and they get up to 700 lbs, perhaps yes, some are under that in zoo...
Look like is all the un proof evident.
It's such a shame the attitude that humans had towards wild animals until the later part of last century. It seems so psychopathic to us now to be happy about hunting such a magnificent species to extinction. If those Cape and Barbary lion populations were genuinely that large on average, ie commonly around 600lbs+, they would easily be on average, the largest cats on Earth. There must then, have been some absolutely monumental, prehistoric sized individuals floating around amongst those populations back then before Europeans arrived in Africa
Kind a sad...
Cape lions
African Bear
Caspian Tigers
Tasmanian Tiger
Bali Tiger
Javan Tiger
All gone...
Yeah
It's a disgrace they killed these beautiful tigers and lion subspecies
because of humans
Cape lion macht denn sibirischen tiger kaputt sogar transvaal lion macht den sibirischen tiger kaputt habe so viele videos tiger verliert immer auch beim essen löwe vertreibt den tiger meistens tiger ist beweglicher löwe ist stärker
Transvaal Lions are not as big as the Cape Lion.
These magnificent creatures are believed to be the rides of Gods ❤️
700 lbs lions
Haven't been seen on this planet for 10,000 years or more. Claims of them since then are extremely exaggerated.
@@t74guard78 intresting
The 'Tiger ' is the national animal of India... the peacock bird ... flower 'Lily' ..✌️
The 'Lion' Is The National Symbol Of India...
Well we would know if y'all wouldn't have killed them all
Tiger killers
There hasn't been a lion on earth in the last 12,000 years that can kill a tiger. There is plenty of examples in history to support that. Bengal and Caspian tigers defeated mostly Barbary lions in the Roman Coliseum, based on records kept, around 86% of the time. I got that from the number of fights between them, around 1,900 and lion victories which was 263 of them. That works out to be 14% of the time. ONly a few sources I read gave these numbers but all 30 or so sources indicated in one way or another, that tigers generally won. Encounters between the tow since then, the outcome was pretty much the same. The lions did a little better gaining about 5% more victories. I am talking about a fair fight meaning a one on one between healthy males. There has been several accounts of several lions killing a single tiger as well as lion vs tigress fights. The tigress did win several of these encounters. Also there has been many young lion kills old tiger. That is why I singled out the fair fights which are the best indicators of which one is superior. To name a couple of more recent encounters. Back in 2011, in a Turkish zoo, a tiger was able to get through a partition that separated his enclosure from a lions next to his. The tiger immediately attacked the lion and killed it with one paw strike to it's throat. The lions neck was split open causing it to die in a pool of it's own pool. Another fight took place back in the late 1800's between a Barbary lion named Atlas and a man eating Bengal tiger. It was a bloody fight but the tiger did manage to kill the lion. There were no accounts of Siberian tigers fighting in the Roman Coliseum. Most likely because the Romans never made it that far east. The fights in the coliseum where probably the best indicator as to who is the superior because they were all captured wild animals. The videos here on you.tube are pretty much all 15 second disagreements and not real fights. They are also all captive animals with many having been abused from the start. It's really common sense but many don't realize it, but captive animals are not good representatives of wild ones. Like I mentioned, many have been abused and being born in captivity, don't have many of their wild instincts or abilities. Some still think they are good examples of which animal is superior but they are not. Anyway your very short comment needed to be corrected. Only the largest bear species, as far as predators go, can be labeled tiger killers but it can go the other way around as well. Tigers have and still do successfully hunt large brown bears. From cubs to females to full grown males.
Time to put these heavyweight Lions on a diet time to adjust their food
Man eater?
BULLSHIT
They killed it as a trophy cause it's size
So these geniuses just went around killing and weighing lions? Great job people
Yeah didn't you know that all hunters back then dragged a scale big enough to weigh an animal of that size all around with them? hahahahahah they are all exaggerated like fisherman fishtales.
Lion is small only. Because the lion is cat only and eating only mouse and bone fish
If course humans hunted them to extinction that’s what we do best…Kill
lion King ❤❤❤❤
habe 1 video von charlie chaplin 1928 ich denke das war der letzte cape lion im zirkus
Not true they found a cape lion alive in Africa this year
Really, you mean one lion has survived for over a hundred years, all by himself? hahahahahahah right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Common sense isn't one of your better traits is it?