Tailfin AeroPack X Carbon (Frame Mounted): Install and First Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2019
- In this video I'll be taking an initial look at the Tailfin AeroPack X FRAME MOUNTED, the Carbon version. (man that's a mouth-full)
YES of course it's carbon, this is bikepacking LIGHT!!!
Music Credit:
Track 1:
Stumble (Post Rock) by John Fulford
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Track2:
Mattdeguia - Daylight
• Mattdeguia - Daylight
Track 3:
Free J Cole Type Beat - "Change Everything"
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Mounting it directly to the thru axle(custom, provided by Tailfin) is probably one of the best design elements of the Tailfin rack. Really nice and both mounting and removing it from the bike takes seconds.
Loctite is intended to be used without grease on the threads and it allows you to remove nuts/bolts after it's applied similar to a thread lubricant. Assuming that you're using the blue medium strength stuff. For threads that are for things that are prone to siezing don't use grease - use anti-seize (messy and notorious for staining clothes but it doesn't turn to dried out crust like grease does). Instead of getting precut abrasion resistant tape specifically marketed for bikes buy a roll of helicopter tape. It's the same stuff without the extra surcharge that many bike products are notorious for such as degreasers, grease or polish. Helicopter tape is easy enough to cut with good scissors and doesn't damage paint when removing or leave sticky messy residue.
Nice Video! Well done! Thx for the information!
Very good Tipps ! Thanks !
Awesome review
That’s a great video, very insightful and helpful. Cool Bananas...👍🏻 Thanks indeed
So far, so GOOD!
This opening of the box is simply GENIAL 🤩
Great video. Thanks for sharing. On a side note - have you had a bike fit? Seems as though your legs look cramped and you could do with lifting that seat post a little higher!
Nice video. Enjoyed watching. Didn't mind the length of the presentation because it was nicely done with nice audio. Just Liked & Subscribed. Hope you get more Likes & Subscribers. I'm new to bike accessories. Actually I'm still looking for my first bike in decades. I don't own a car, so a Bike is the next best thing economically -- specially in these difficult times. Thanks for sharing. God Bless & Protect us all.
Hi, thanks for the video. I think trying Triglav Packman as front whell bag might be a good idea.
Tailfin's FAQ's give lots of guidance on the rack vs. aero pack. It was plain that my most important factor was being able to remove the bag.
Intresing bag. I'd buy the quick release model if u need if you need to remove often. Constantly removing/installing the bolts will strip threads out of the aluminum seat stay inserts. The post clamp on the model reviewed is for ez fitting across different diameters, not Q/R.
As a TailFin X owner (and a Tubus Airy, too) - I highly recommend the TailFin. It is the currently the finest carrier system there is - and I don't see how it can be surpassed. Nick and his team put Tubus, RackTime, BlackBurn, TorTec, Ortlieb, Vaude, Carradice, Brooks, Thule, Arkel and everyone else instantly to shame with the T, then outdid themselves the X. The finest, the most elegant, the hippest, the lowest-tolerance, most tactile, the most technical carrier system I, a long-time Tubus, RackTime & FreeLoad user, have ever used or come across at all. If you can afford it - and have a bike to match (i.e., a beautiful carbon or titanium rig) - go for it! If it's beyond your budget - go for something like the Tubus Airy and a pair of Vaude packs.
Hi who’s Nick and where can I see the reviews ? Thanks !
@@CogitareEstVivere Both TH-cam and various cycling / bikepacking publications are rife with reviews. Nick is Nick Broadbent of TailFin CC, the CEO.
Am currently on a south coast of uk tour and using the tailfin. I’m with my Canyon Grail:on e-bike and able to store spare battery plus clothes etc. Not cheap but great option
Jealous of your ride, enjoy it.
You probably know this now , but you can get quick release for the frame mounted aero pack.
I'm at 0:59 - and let Me guess: your bike is a Salsa WarBird 2019 Di2. They're beauties! I have a Tiagra one, now set up with a Sram eTap AXS Force and semi-aero wheels, etc. Compliments on your choice of a bike!
Try this One Specialized Burra Burra Handlebar Harness and Drybag, It looks like the same materials and it's black! and the branding is not that loud same as tailfin. so it will look almost the same I think.:)
Just FYI, if you are interested in a better solution to protect your frame where the rack mounts, you can usually find some thin nylon washers at you local hardware store. I've always used these when mounting fenders or racks to all of my frames, inlcuding Titanium, with great success. Another tip you might find helpful. Boeshield T9 is great for keeping your hardware (bolts, attachments, etc...) from corroding. I give my bike a wipe down with it (avoid the brakes/pads/rotors) every time it gets washed, including spokes/nipples/hubs, and all of my mount bolts (stem, bottles, fenders, racks etc...). I wouldn't bother with the spray canf, as the nozzles tend to clog. Get the drip bottle and drip it onto the bolts, and dampen a microfiber cloth with it for the larger surfaces like frames and wheels. Don't overdo it. It doesn't need to be applied heavy. Just a very thin layer. Wipe off any excess and preferably let it dry over night to avoid dust collecting on it. It will keep things from corroding, and easier to clean when it does get muddy. Boeing invented the stuff to protect aircraft. Good enough for them, it's good enough for me. =)
Jim, really appreciate your comments! Great tip on the nylon washers and the T9, I'll have to pick those up.
These guys would appear to have a wonderfull product. We live in NZ and went to website to purchase. The prices were in $NZ and we were then charged in $Aus. When we complained no acknowledgement or apology. We cancelled the transaction and were refunded 3.5% less than we paid. Beware the FX rates charged are extortionate.
Great video thanks !
What did you buy for front bags eventually ?
Isn’t there some rack like Tailfin but for the front fork etc ?
Apidura although if I had more $$$ i would go Bags X Bird, although that also takes a lot of time because it's custom. Someone needs to make a carbon through axle front rack.....hint hint @tailfin....
is your bike also carbon frame? if not any idea if tailfin is suitable for carbon frame bikes?
Thanks for this vid ! I'm really interested in this product (but the version separate bag/rackpack and thru-axle mounted) cause I don't have eyelets on my carbon frame (Orbea Terra). In order to make light bike packing (3-5 days, as UK cyclists say : "credit card touring" : staying at hotel). I'm terrified by the movement a saddle bag has... (I don't know the word in English... you know, left/right like flappy sausage)...
BUT my question is : how big is it really ? I have a Carradry 11L (could resist to everything, but heavy and it is full quickly despite the size) and I want bigger.
The bag is awesome and the volume is huge: 20 l.
Hi, great vid. Do you have a link to the 'frame shield' stickers you used?
The brand is Bike Smart, but unfortunately looks like they stopped making it: bikesmart.com
I'll be honest the rack bolt mount protection probably isn't necessary. I'm thinking nylon washers would do a better job and be overall cleaner.
Question - How's the AeroPack working with your laptop? I have the AeroPack X Carbon but can't really get my 13" laptop (in a protective sleeve) to fit, so I just ordered the extended seatpost connector to get a little more room. Still not sure it will work, but willing to give it a try.
I'd say it's just OK, it took a few days of break-in for the aeropack to become a little less stiff and is getting easier over time. I don't fill the bag up to full capacity while carrying the laptop, and I agree that it probably won't fit with a protective sleeve. After a few weeks commuting, I'm a tad worried about the long term durability, especially the sharp corners of the laptop tend to stress the bag a bit. In honesty, it takes a bit of fiddling to get the right fit, the I put my change of clothes at the bottom and try to get the laptop as horizontal as possible. I tried doing the same with other seatpacks, impossible. All that said, this is the most aerodynamic way to carry a laptop so it is worth it for me. GCN wind tunnel tested seatpacks to confirm: th-cam.com/video/wdfB5fbVHck/w-d-xo.html
@@bikepackinglight1829 Belated thanks for getting back to me. I ordered the extended seat post connector and am hoping that it makes the bag a bit easier to use and access.
Good
Thanks for the video. How do you feel about putting your laptop into the bag, is it safe enough ? Is the bag large enough that it can take a Dell 13’ and a protective sleeve ?
If you crash, yea it's not going to end well. I risked it for over a year and nothing bad happened, then lockdowns hit and wasn't really commuting anymore. A protective sleeve probably wouldn't fit well, the large sized panniers also available from Tailfin are better for something like that.
Might be 3 years old but this was really useful in helping my thinking about my next purchase. Zip protection was new to me so now need that :). Did you change the direct mount in the end?
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent review, with fantastic afterthought tips! I think they should make you the USA product ambassador! As for me, need to start saving - have a loooong way to go before I have a decent setup.
P.S. I have subscribed based upon this one vid👍👍👍👏👏👏
whats that tool kit you have? i'm looking at the bag and just strapping down to my rack.
Silca.
you have enough space/room now on the rear. my view, keep the front clean :) I usually don't put anything on the front...
Word. Keep that projected frontal surface area low.
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Lot's of tinfoil-hat stuff here... UV protection for zippers... scared to get thread lock in the frame... been following Tailfin since kickstarter but had no idea about the extender or quick-clip bag options...
Besides the laptop struggle, would you recommend this product still? Any new thoughts since making the video? I'm looking to leave it mounted semi permanent to my bike and wondering if it looks silly unpacked?
Charles, I would still highly recommend this product, especially when compared to other seatpacks, this is by far the best I've used. My only other thought since making the video is the seat clamp makes it harder to mount the bike on my repair stand. I think that is another reason to try out the extended seatpost connector, which would likely solve that problem. In terms of looking silly, I think that is highly subjective. Compared to regular seatpacks that become a flaccid sausage casing when empty, the aeropack is totally fine when nothing is packed in it. The compression straps are versatile and can be connected parallel or crossed over like an "X". When nothing is in it, I deploy the straps in the X configuration and the pack compresses down quite compact causing no flapping or other annoyances. If you regularly ride without a load, you might consider the rack version, which gives you a tad more versatility. I personally like having the carry capacity at all times, and leave it permanently connected to my frame. I get lots of compliments on this pack, so that tells me it doesn't look all that dorky. Hope this helps out! I'll post another video soon incorporating any other observations.
Just placed an order, can’t wait.
Great review! But with all the protection that you use, you should be selling hand lotion or something ;)
T-9 for the bike and rider - sorted:)
Good vid, but I'm surprised you didn saran wrap your bike... ;)
Thanks for the video. I just bought a TF rack + panniers + AP20 removable trunk bag. Perhaps you should have researched or reached out to the company to check issues before buying. Tailfin have a good quality, long lasting, well designed products. You do get what you pay for.
Sorry, but the prices are beyond ridiculous. Or is the US dollar going down the dump by inflation?
Change the currency on the website to GBP and pay by credit card. Your CC company will pay using the current exchange rate which I found is a lot cheaper than using the USD option on their website. I have a feeling they set their USD prices back when they started and the Pound was much stronger against the US dollar and have never adjusted it to the current market.
Sorry we used to make rack when younger and if it's sat behind you especially on a tour bike aero is not really relevant it looks nice but so over priced it's rediculus.
A normal rack and dry bag with straps is no more than fifty UK pounds .
probably weighs about 50 pounds as well.... or 22.6796KG for you fluffy happy metric folks....
Overpriced system
Might be overpriced but doubt you can find lighter. In order to get the lightest you have to pay more. Plenty of cheap heavy gear out there, enjoy!
Great Product, but horrible instructions... Why? Because they don't come with any instructions! So if you're installing one for the first time, be ready to spend a few hours of frustration and thinking the whole time they sent you the wrong model cause it will not fit. Only to start discovering there are threaded holes that are not visible until you look very very carefully which is a problem that can easily be avoided if it came with simple, god damn instructions... I know I know, look on TH-cam. But here's the deal, while they are assembling they don't point out these little details, like the hidden tiny threaded holes that make a FREAKING BIG DIFFERENCE. SO PLEASE PUT INSTRUCTIONS!!!!
Again, great product, BUT.