Welcome to the CopeCast! The ONLY reason this was even a SERIES is that the Panthers faultered games 4-6. Had those Panthers who showed up in games 1-3 showed up in 4,5, or 6, they would have closed it out then. They had to learn how to contain their emotions and just play their game.
Can you homers calm down with the "the oilers out played them but, but,but". Dude, if the oilers did enough the would have won, they didnt, flordia earned the win, stop saying they got lucky
Playing better in a play style that don’t win championships does not matter. And this is what these 3 cannot understand. They have a completely different view of what good plays are. So to them, it seems like oilers played better. But they fail to understand that “playing better” in the style they want to see does not win championships.
Stupidest tradition is throwing rubber rats on the ice? At least we have a tradition bud lmfao 🤣 apart from being a team that brought awareness to an endangered species in the Brown Panther 🐆 and bringing that beautiful native cat up to over 200 in the wild FROM less than 30… our team is also know for its story on the “The Year of the Rats”. At least we have a tradition!! 😅
I didnèt know this that they brought awareness to this marvelous species- way to go Panthers- may you continue to win next year!!!! What a speech my Maurice- best ever and of course they won- Maurinceès two cats were routing for dad!-LOL- Congrats again on a phenomenal year!! From Ontario Canada :-)
What’s being said by these 3 is the exact reason why Canadian teams haven’t won the cup. Edmonton indeed did play better, but they played better only based on a play style expected by Canadian media and fans. This is true for Leafs as well. I hear over and over again how the fans of these teams constantly saying their team played better. Because the fans and Canadian media don’t understand that these flashy, finesse, top heavy, high scoring, styles don’t work anymore. So yes, Canadian teams do indeed play better in their flashy uptempo style, but it doesn’t matter. Do you think Florida cares about common stats like goals and assists? They don’t, nor do the Vegas books. This is why Vegas had no problem putting the odds against Edmonton even if everyone else thinks they “played better”. Because their style doesn’t win championships. Hockey has changed, and media and fans need to see it from it different perspective. You can cry about how your team played better, but being better in that style does not win championships.
If anyone wants to debate Connor McDavid going out to receive the Conn Smythe, Wayne Gretzky said everything anyone needs to know. Last year, he talks about the 1987 Finals. He simply stated the Oilers didn’t know who was awarded the Conn Smythe nor did they care. The Finals are all about the Stanley Cup.
Why would he want to intrude on Florida's celebration - they won - they deserve the spotlight - what the hell is the matter with these people - it is like they have to make up controversy to justify their existence.
Weirdly, the image of McDavid sitting on the bench with rats flying around is good for hockey. It starts a great storyline for him. If he wins in the future, people will come back to that image and remember it as a character building moment. And the rats are fun, silly but fun. Take these things lightly.
Dude, McDavid might be the best player ever from a skill perspective, it's not glazing to say how good he is. This is coming from a semisalty Canucks fan
@@johnnybaxter1953 It is when he is losing games and series or a complete non factor...and when other players are better than him in those games and series. The league does not exist to heap accolades on McDavid. The constant focus on him like he "deserves" a cup.. no he doesn't, Game 7 and he came up with nothing.. nobody screwed over Mcdavid.. nobody stole it from him.. nobody took away his toy.. He was there in the one game that mattered.. 60 mins to show that he 'is the best' and Barkov was better than him, Bobrovsky was better than him, end of story. So yes the constant focus on him like he is the most important thing in the sport is glazing.
@@Eleutherios1 may as well get yourself, your kids, and their kids use to the so called glazing of mcdavid. Sure barkov is a well rounded player and one of the best in the league but there’s levels to it. Mcdavid is in the greatest of all time discussion which barkov will never be. Aside from Florida fans this cup will be remembered largely on mcdavids performance and how he lost to a well rounded Florida team. Not an oilers fan but the guy is breaking records no one thought would be beat so gotta respect that.
Right ?! I was like huh ? Panthers owned Oilers yesterday. In game 7 it’s all about mental toughness and who wants it more , it was clearly Florida from the second the puck dropped.
So let's be clear that Connor didn't score for five of seven games in the final, including nothing in games 6 and 7, and was awarded MVP. That says more about the clueless Canadian media than anything else. If they knew how winning is done, they would be in coaching/management.
These guys are such sore losers, bashing the fans for traditions and putting mcdavid on this pedestal that he’s head and shoulders above the rest. Breaking a playoff record is cool, but winning a Stanley cup is WAY cooler, and 100x more rewarding. Enjoy his Conn(solation) Smythe trophy
@@user-qh3gc3sq1vbut the oilers were clearly not better. They were nervous, turning the puck over all game, and could not establish the same type and amount of offense they did in games 4-6… that being said, oilers are a worthless franchise who I hope never win another cup 🤣
The Oilers are the type of team that if they outplay you they beat you, just because their best players are such good finishers. If they lose, they didn't play better.If the Oilers had lost this way to a more traditional team like the Rangers or Bruins they wouldn't be saying this. They just can't stand that the center of the hockey world is no longer in Ontario--it's south of Georgia & Alabama, LOL.
McDavid only started getting some points after Barkov got elbowed in the head and once he was better, McDavid was held pointless. It still make sense that McDavid won the Smythe, people love big beautiful stats.
sid was like 21 yrs old, played a solid game 7 with his fellow kid teammates vs one of the greatest dynasties in NHL history in the red wings. back to back cup appearances. completely different contexts to mcdavid being almost 10 years into his career ......
Yeah Conn Smythe is the only leaf that is going to get anywhere near close to it in the future . I don't think it has ever been won by a guy who only plays in the first round - but if it was Toronto of course would insist it is theirs
What is that kid on the right talking about? McDaniel got shut down game 6 and 7. He got flat out stomped. Embarrassing he got that trophy and he knows it, best thing he did was not get coming out for it. And the biggest contribution Draisaitl made was having a temper tantrum and elbowing Barkov though it backfired.
The difference between Oilers and Panthers: Bill Zito. If a Canadian team had hardcore American ownership and management...... might have a chance to win. But the lame ass 'run it again' and weakness in taking big swings.... we get teams like the Leafs and Ottawa. Eventhough so many of the players come from Canada.... the decision makers come from the US.
totally - Canadian teams have not won for 30+ yrs now - its not any grand conspiracy - name me one Canadian team that has had excellent management over a sustained period of time ? there isn't one . Toronto had a period with Cliff Fletcher, and Burns and came close - they had chances with Pat Burns coaching - Ottawa forget it , Montreal has excellent management now - but have had a long list of clowns between now and Serge Savard, Same with Vancouver , Calgary hasn't really had excellent management since Cliff Fletcher, Edmonton was a clown show since Slats left and even now - they won how many lotteries to get to this ? Florida had 3 players that they drafted on their roster - that is some good pro scouting and some shrewd moves by Zitto. If some Canadian teams get that level of management for a while they will be having parades again .
Connor not going out to receive the Conn Smythe is 100% why they 'say' that a player on the losing team of the final should never receive the Conn Smythe.
Barkov is the rightful MVP, but the voting hockey media are just glorified hockey pool junkies. They read statistics and don't understand how winning is done. Connor was not only shut down in games 6 and 7, he was shut down in games 1,2, and 3 too. Barkov, aside from actually WINNING the Cup, shut down McDavid, and unlike McDavid, was his team's best and most consistent player in EVERY series.
@@aleung7248 Barkov was actually the leading Panther and 2nd in voting, Forsling was 3rd. One first place vote for Bob doesn't mean he finished 2nd in voting..also I said the voters are idiots - so idiots voting unanimously is supposed to mean something?
@@Julio-v1c if you have an issue with the voting, take it up with the sports writers who voted. Or go listen to Chris Johnston's response to those who disagreed with him voting for McDavid. It's done. I no longer care.
the best player in the world is Sasha Barkov. i know because I saw him beat the guy everyone thought was the best in the world. not only did he beat his team, but he beat him 1 on 1. barkov shut conor down defensively and barkov scored more goals to help his team win that conor could not do. Barkov > Mcdavid
I would tend to agree with you - in terms of overall - obviously no one is turning down McDavid but his overall play and size - Barkov is definitely in the discussion for best player in the world right now IMO - he really doesn't have a flaw - maybe he doesn't shoot as often as he could or should - that is getting pretty nit picky . But on top of all the skill he is a big, thick horse of a man that means a lot in a long playoff - McDavid was completely exhausted and looks emaciated by the end - they kid definitely gave it everything he has
Sam's Conn Smythe take is insane. Imagine McDavid says to his team (who he captains) at their absolute lowest moment "sorry guys i gotta leave to accept a personal award because new American hockey fans might think it's weird if i don't"
It's would be more for his fans watching on TV the kids that look up to him the kids that play hockey because of him. McD was the last Oiler to leave the ice anyways so what would have been a few mins. He didn't have to take the trophy back to the room, but I feel he needed to go out and accept it
I'm afraid another decade of darkness is coming in Edmonton. The Oilers blew their chance of winning the cup both last year and this year. As other teams in the NHL rise, I see the Oilers window for winning the cup rapidly closing. They have had too many missed opportunities. I hope I am wrong though.
Imagine being a Panthers core player and you get traded during the draft and the parade is two days after. I get why it ended so late and the extra days off allowed for better rest for players, so I'm glad for that.
yeah it made for a better finals series overall - McDavid looked like he was refugee by the end of the playoffs - he plays probably 28-30 minutes / game . Knoblach found out how to be a genius coach - he says - 97 are you ready to go out again !! thats it
If McDavid does not need Conn Smythe why not give it to Bobrovsky? I agree: McDavid did not deliver when it was most needed, whereas Bob, on the contrary, delivered when it was most needed. That's the difference.
C'mon Kyper "McDavid will be remembered for NOT being able to finish it off in game 6 and 7". This is early in his career. He is going to be back to the cup - probably several times. When this is remembered, it will just be 'one of his early attempts - before he won the cup" - and he will likely win it several times. I think he has a future like McKinnon - he is just going to keep improving.
As a Cats fan, nothing but respect for Edmonton. Hell of a team, so impressive in the O zone it’s silly. That being said, you guys are coping on this pod. STILL making excuses why Edmonton lost, terrible look for you guys. Some of the fans however, were very obnoxious keyboard warriors the past two weeks. McDavid deserves a cup. GG Edmonton.
What I dont understand is why is no one talking about Edmonton not pulling the goalie when they had possession with the big guys on the ice with 3 minutes left. You need a goal, waiting untill 1:30 was incredibly stupid.
Interesting that Maurice has no faith in the team winning again next year. Let's hope for a Vancouver/Winnipeg matchup next year for the playoffs before they meet the Oilers then.
"What if's?" IF Vancouver had of had Demko in net, healthy, McDavid wouldn't even have been in the finals... So, yeah... What if's. They are all part of the toughest trophy to win in sports; attrition is a huge part of The Stanley Cup. Best "team" won. In the meantime, McDefense? still needs to learn there are 3 zones in hockey, before he can be considered anywhere near the "best hockey player in the world"; GOD DAMN, I'm SO bored of that ridiculous hyperbole. But, anyway, great playoffs overall.
Gyus, dont blame Skinner that hard. It is unfair. It was the d-mans mistake. He did not kerp the blue line. That you stick to one detail tells all on your thinking on the game. Thats not like a player thinks , but after game critic wiseguy. There were more than 5 other chances that could have changed the match result.
Christ all mighty bud. Stupidest tradition? A team throws catfish - cool A team throws octopus - cool A team throws plastic rats - stupid Come onnn. Conor deserved the CS. Thru and thru. But stop riding the c**k. He left the ice, like many other future HOFers, during a Stanley cup loss. You make it seem like it’s the hockey version of the notebook. I’m glad he didn’t come out to receive it. He did right by his teammates.
Don't make fun of team traditions.. Especially Fan Traditions. Bad Take and the McDavid drool is crazy... Barkov was the better player this WHOLE series. McDavid not going on out to the the Conn Smythe is perfectly acceptable. This is Hockey, shows grit and what I love about the sport.
Home ice? Exactly. This is why we say home ice comes in handy, game 7 at home. I kinda figured it would play out like that. It's not so bad, Maurice finally gets 1 well deserved, honestly. Great series, first cup for FlorEda Panthers. Mc David gets a CS, check and the experience will serve the club well. I expect Oilers-Leafs final next year. Peace ✌️ 😎.
As an American. Sammie's take on the conn smythe trophy isn't a good one. The team didn't win. Why would he want to go celebrate a personal accomplishment when your teams in the locker room heartbroken.
They didn't used to give the Conn Smythe on the ice. Look up when Ziegler presented Billy Smith the trophy after the Islanders beat Edmonton in 1983. It was in the studio. I'm old enough to remember when Reggie Leach won and I saw the last game of the finals. All it was was the TV announcer saying, "The Conn Smythe trophy has been awarded to Reggie Leach." This is a whole bullshit issue and not even a real story and, believe me, no one south of the Canadian border cares, not even hockey fans. This is purely a Canadian masturbation over nothing. Also, the league president also used to just turn the cup over to the captain of the winning team. No stupid presentation speech. That started with Bettman.
Just an awful take by Sammy on the Conn Smyth... McDavid is the captain of his team, he is not gunna do the skate of shame in a building BOOING him for winning a trophy to go and try and smile and take it when he feels miserable. His place in that moment is in the room with his teamates, not taking a trophy at the lowest point of the year for him. Maybe don't present the trophy to a guy on the losing team. McDavid was put into an impossible situation, but he made the right call, he chose his team over some personal award. If you don't get that, you do NOT understand hockey at all.
I don’t blame McDavid for not sticking around to accept the Conn Smythe. If they insist on a player receiving it on the ice make it a rule that the player has to be from the winning team.
Connor McNoshow could not accept the trophy because he knows he did little in the Stanley cup final. Game 1 Noshow, Game 2 Noshow, Game 3 Noshow, Game 4 Noshow until game was over, Game 5 FINALLY shows up, Game 6 Noshow, and Game 7 Noshow. A bunch of No names and a rookie starting goalie are the only reason Edmonton did not go out in 4 games.Give the Conn Smyth to one of the No names or Skinner they came to play and exceeded expectations.
It's also obvious out of the 3 who was NEVER. a leader on a sports team Sam " I gotta poop face" is so wrong about accepting the con smythe, the minute after losing. GTFOH
These people should not be doing sports analysis. First, the giant rat - great tradition. Second, the best team won. Please do not tell me how great McDavid is, he and his team lost! How many goals did he score on games 6 and 7?
How can they sit there and say the Oilers were the better team, and talk about how Florida kept it in there zone and were aggressive and played their game? Bunch of clowns, the better team made it Canada/USA who cares the better team won period
Does it really matter if a Canadian team wins the cup or not. Every team every year that win the Cup there are always more Canadian players on the club than any other country and they always bring in back home to celebrate anyway.
people that obsess over that I guarantee you go home at night and pull out a ruler and swear their tiny little chub is getting bigger - day after day after day
Trash argument for mcdavid winning the conn smythe. Barkovs shut down defense 5 on 5 and being on the Pk is conveniently over looked for mcdavids points. “Oh he had 8 points in games 4 and 5” oh but barkov ate mcdavids and draisaitls l😮nah games 1-3 and 6-7. Canadian writers couldn’t comprehend mcdavids preordained coronation didn’t happen. Especially to a non-traditional market. So they gave him a participation trophy
Part of me is glad Canada didn't get a Cup and part of me wants them to have one just so they can stop crying about it (which won't happen). These guys need to cover the American teams the way they do Toronto lol.
@@ArniePorter Well they may learn a thing or two, including you, about players in the league. Won't have to learn about Janmark, Ekblad, Barkov in the finals lol. . . "there's ESPN, TNT and the NHL" and no one asked you about it lol. You guys never look at it from a "good for hockey" perspective. Just selfish hosers.
I really like listening to you guys as a listener from FL but do you really need to be so salty about any team in the states winning. Finding anything to complain about like traditions and fans is pathetic. Complain about the team that lost and couldn’t get it done and not the one who won it all. Leave the fans out of the conversation. P.S. Love throwing rats on the ice!
@@Powell19119 I agree it’s been a while but these teams aren’t competing for countries. They are competing as sports teams in a league. Canadians playing on both teams. When Vegas won last year I don’t think fans from other franchises were saying thank god the cup stayed in the United States. They were upset their team didn’t win.
@@Crab_13 Fans from what other franchises, though? Funny fact, Lord Stanley is in my father’s family tree. The Stanley Cup has been around for over a century. Just so happens the year 1993 coincides with the year Bettman came from NBA to the NHL. Caps and lockouts (complete seasons) are also part of history. And there’s a lot of people who banter about the history, statistics, culture, and superstitions. Also hockey is a bit further down in popularity in pro sports in USA than it is in Canada, (or some other countries). Fans don’t have to be geographical. Fans who buy season’s tickets are usually local. Canadian markets bring a lot of revenue to hockey. Not sporadic. Breaking into the south and other markets world wide helps the owners and the players’ salaries. Players are the ones who risk their lives/bodies for pro sports careers. Of course hockey is a lot more international and widespread. Getting players interested as young kids/fans to play the game is also important. When I was kid winters were all about hockey and other times of the year we’d play outside or in the gym. I doubt you’re gonna see many street hockey games in Vegas. Back in 2010 downtown Vancouver when we were at the Winter Olympics? There were countless street hockey games right in the downtown outdoor street mall. So history and culture may be different in the Jupiter/Miami area. I’m happy a Finn captain hoisted the cup. Happy for the coach who’s been at for decades. (You get the pic, it means different things to all)
The Maple Leafs will will the Stanley Laurel & Oliver Hardy Cup.....why? Because they make us laugh and they were a great comedy team from the last century. A friend once told me the Leafs will win the cup before man sets foot on Mars.....I don't think so.
Come game 7, I wanted the Oilers to win, not for Edmonton folk (especially the fans that are in the comment section complaining about 5 minutes of Leafs talk every other day) but for Torontos own, Connor McDavid! Come home, McDavo!!! Come home!
Remember fans in Florida where already booing him before his name was completely finished so no respect from Florida fans listen they were booing him while Betman was saying his name and Florida fans were not being very respectful so why would he come out and it's not the only reason tell the guy in end what about fans disrespected him when he was named what kind off Fans are we dealing with uneducated about hockey
Florida play's the most boring hockey to watch oilers are the most exciting games to watch Florida was very lucky they should never have had a break down for being so good the winning goal was a goal Skinner should have had Florida can count themselves so lucky for not flopping apparently Drisitle had broken ribs and Conner needs some stomache surgery
I might add, what a fantastic Stanley Cup 🏆 Finals. Between two teams playing and fighting for the same thing, as a true Canadian bleeding red and white for the flag of our great Nation we call Canada 🇨🇦, I also bleed Blue and White as well, I wanted the Edmonton Oilers to win the Stanley Cup 🏆, only one team can win it, and the best team won it, Congratulations 🎊 Florida Panthers, their first in franchise history, as a fan I wasn't even close to being upset. I commend the Edmonton Oilers for their comeback in franchise history to be out of a wildcard spot in November of 2023 according to their win/loss standings in the Pacific Division, to comeback and earn the playoff position, then go to the Stanley Cup Finals. Is impressive and especially when there's 31 other teams in the NHL, is unheard of and will be talked about for years to come. My hat goes off to them 100%! The Florida Panthers deserve and earned to win the Stanley Cup 🏆. Again, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! go out to Florida Panthers Ownership, coaching, coaching staff, Management, Organization, especially the players who earned it by their blood, sweat and tears. Go Panthers Go! Go Panthers Go! 🇨🇦 🍁🏒🥅👌👍
The Cats had 2 lives left this game: 1 for winning and 1 for celebrating. They figured out that oil is the new milk and they struck oil. We rich with oil baby! Stanley Cats For The Win 🇺🇲🏆❤️🤍💙🏆🇺🇲!
Bourne saying Edmonton was the BETTER TEAM last night?!?!? What fckin planet are we on here???? That's gotta be the worst of the worst from Bourne I just about spit out my coffee hearing that
I think he partially right. Think oilers looked more dangerous than the panthers offensively but panthers were good clogging up the slot limiting shots getting through
Panthers just capitalized on this two chances. Series played out like anyone would have predicted. Oilers are better offensively and panthers are better defensively and in net.
How could you say Mcdavid was the best player in the playoffs?!?!?! Bobby was by far the best player and barkov was a close 2nd. Bob stood on his head all 4 series. The Mcdavid hopium is nuts-o
Listening to this pod is why Americans aren’t more into the sport. Because these clowns get a platform. Sam hating on a great tradition, and basically saying Fla is not the story..Bourne saying the Oilers were better in that game. Like just stop.
Where the hell are all the people here? what Edmonton loses then all the seagulls fly north locking themselves up in their poor me human mental horizon.. This is the problem with people today especially men who all get offended or upset when things don't go their way like a bunch of whining babies.. Fukn Jokes..
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The ONLY reason this was even a SERIES is that the Panthers faultered games 4-6. Had those Panthers who showed up in games 1-3 showed up in 4,5, or 6, they would have closed it out then. They had to learn how to contain their emotions and just play their game.
Can you homers calm down with the "the oilers out played them but, but,but". Dude, if the oilers did enough the would have won, they didnt, flordia earned the win, stop saying they got lucky
The team that plays better doesn't always win the series. That's a fact. With that being said, the Panthers deserved to win
I was pulling for the Oilers but I have to say that the Panthers 100% deserved to win the cup.
Coilers didn't outplay the cats plus skinner let in a soft one
Playing better in a play style that don’t win championships does not matter. And this is what these 3 cannot understand. They have a completely different view of what good plays are. So to them, it seems like oilers played better. But they fail to understand that “playing better” in the style they want to see does not win championships.
Oilers outplayed them.
Stupidest tradition is throwing rubber rats on the ice? At least we have a tradition bud lmfao 🤣 apart from being a team that brought awareness to an endangered species in the Brown Panther 🐆 and bringing that beautiful native cat up to over 200 in the wild FROM less than 30… our team is also know for its story on the “The Year of the Rats”. At least we have a tradition!! 😅
Well said. He can keep coping cause he has no clue about our fun tradition or the good the team has done. We have the cup!
But the Leafs have a tradition too. Like choking in the first round. It's an important part of the Canadian spring.
@@sebastiencarrieres8825That’s a tradition I look forward to every year 😂
I didnèt know this that they brought awareness to this marvelous species- way to go Panthers- may you continue to win next year!!!! What a speech my Maurice- best ever and of course they won- Maurinceès two cats were routing for dad!-LOL- Congrats again on a phenomenal year!! From Ontario Canada :-)
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What’s being said by these 3 is the exact reason why Canadian teams haven’t won the cup. Edmonton indeed did play better, but they played better only based on a play style expected by Canadian media and fans. This is true for Leafs as well. I hear over and over again how the fans of these teams constantly saying their team played better. Because the fans and Canadian media don’t understand that these flashy, finesse, top heavy, high scoring, styles don’t work anymore. So yes, Canadian teams do indeed play better in their flashy uptempo style, but it doesn’t matter. Do you think Florida cares about common stats like goals and assists? They don’t, nor do the Vegas books. This is why Vegas had no problem putting the odds against Edmonton even if everyone else thinks they “played better”. Because their style doesn’t win championships. Hockey has changed, and media and fans need to see it from it different perspective. You can cry about how your team played better, but being better in that style does not win championships.
If anyone wants to debate Connor McDavid going out to receive the Conn Smythe, Wayne Gretzky said everything anyone needs to know. Last year, he talks about the 1987 Finals. He simply stated the Oilers didn’t know who was awarded the Conn Smythe nor did they care. The Finals are all about the Stanley Cup.
Why would he want to intrude on Florida's celebration - they won - they deserve the spotlight - what the hell is the matter with these people - it is like they have to make up controversy to justify their existence.
AND you gotta respect Maurice man - what a Legend !! If only all coaches could take a page outta his book
Weirdly, the image of McDavid sitting on the bench with rats flying around is good for hockey. It starts a great storyline for him. If he wins in the future, people will come back to that image and remember it as a character building moment.
And the rats are fun, silly but fun. Take these things lightly.
the rats are sacred. watch it!
Yeah this Homer needs to calm down about the rats . Soooo bitter dude .
@@zero_x93watch My nutsack pal
Nice. Now we can put an end to the excessive McDavid and Oilers glazing by these Canadian media outlets.
lol you guys kill me w/ your words of the month… gLaZInG 🥴
Dude, McDavid might be the best player ever from a skill perspective, it's not glazing to say how good he is. This is coming from a semisalty Canucks fan
“ edm was the better team tonight “ but panthers won the smh. The better team won , the end
@@johnnybaxter1953 It is when he is losing games and series or a complete non factor...and when other players are better than him in those games and series. The league does not exist to heap accolades on McDavid. The constant focus on him like he "deserves" a cup.. no he doesn't, Game 7 and he came up with nothing.. nobody screwed over Mcdavid.. nobody stole it from him.. nobody took away his toy.. He was there in the one game that mattered.. 60 mins to show that he 'is the best' and Barkov was better than him, Bobrovsky was better than him, end of story. So yes the constant focus on him like he is the most important thing in the sport is glazing.
@@Eleutherios1 may as well get yourself, your kids, and their kids use to the so called glazing of mcdavid. Sure barkov is a well rounded player and one of the best in the league but there’s levels to it. Mcdavid is in the greatest of all time discussion which barkov will never be. Aside from Florida fans this cup will be remembered largely on mcdavids performance and how he lost to a well rounded Florida team. Not an oilers fan but the guy is breaking records no one thought would be beat so gotta respect that.
Bourne said, "Edmonton was the better team last night." ???? What? Delusion as set into the minds of the Canadian sports media! I'm out. Losers!
Bourne rooting for leafs west makes sense 😂. His glazing was as bad as panel. These guys don't even hide it half the time lol
@@kodychong9568 Well, two of the four Stanley Cups his father's team won were vs. Canadian teams in the finals. And the Islanders zipped them 8-0.
What do you expect for a Canadian hockey fan? Logic? Reason?
Yea that is ABSURD. That game wasn’t even close.
Right ?! I was like huh ? Panthers owned Oilers yesterday. In game 7 it’s all about mental toughness and who wants it more , it was clearly Florida from the second the puck dropped.
Winning anything in life is very hard. Winning a Stanley Cup is incredibly difficult. Winning a Cup the year after you lost in a final is insanity.
So let's be clear that Connor didn't score for five of seven games in the final, including nothing in games 6 and 7, and was awarded MVP. That says more about the clueless Canadian media than anything else. If they knew how winning is done, they would be in coaching/management.
Watching the finals was like watching the last season of a TV series you adored. It was so good.
I love that Connor chose to stay with his teammates. I respect him a whole lot more for that!
These guys are such sore losers, bashing the fans for traditions and putting mcdavid on this pedestal that he’s head and shoulders above the rest. Breaking a playoff record is cool, but winning a Stanley cup is WAY cooler, and 100x more rewarding. Enjoy his Conn(solation) Smythe trophy
Wait till we see 2 Canadian teams playing in the stanley cup. Then these homers gonna complain us Americans arent watching 😂😢
Panthers played a solid game and deserve the Cup
Bourne saying that the better team lost. You need 4 wins to win the finals. And Florida did that 👍
That’s hockey! The better team on any given night can lose.
@@user-qh3gc3sq1vbut the oilers were clearly not better. They were nervous, turning the puck over all game, and could not establish the same type and amount of offense they did in games 4-6… that being said, oilers are a worthless franchise who I hope never win another cup 🤣
The Oilers are the type of team that if they outplay you they beat you, just because their best players are such good finishers. If they lose, they didn't play better.If the Oilers had lost this way to a more traditional team like the Rangers or Bruins they wouldn't be saying this. They just can't stand that the center of the hockey world is no longer in Ontario--it's south of Georgia & Alabama, LOL.
@@user-qh3gc3sq1vexcept here
@@RRaquello until they start to lose again than the building will be empty lol
McDavid only started getting some points after Barkov got elbowed in the head and once he was better, McDavid was held pointless. It still make sense that McDavid won the Smythe, people love big beautiful stats.
just like to say usually the better team wins. can't be the better team if you lose.
Very classless for Connor to not go out and get that trophy. My giggy did it in 2003... respect him 100% for doing that.
sid was like 21 yrs old, played a solid game 7 with his fellow kid teammates vs one of the greatest dynasties in NHL history in the red wings. back to back cup appearances. completely different contexts to mcdavid being almost 10 years into his career
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Sam only cares about the conn smythe because it's covered with leafs
Yeah Conn Smythe is the only leaf that is going to get anywhere near close to it in the future . I don't think it has ever been won by a guy who only plays in the first round - but if it was Toronto of course would insist it is theirs
What is that kid on the right talking about? McDaniel got shut down game 6 and 7. He got flat out stomped. Embarrassing he got that trophy and he knows it, best thing he did was not get coming out for it. And the biggest contribution Draisaitl made was having a temper tantrum and elbowing Barkov though it backfired.
The difference between Oilers and Panthers: Bill Zito. If a Canadian team had hardcore American ownership and management...... might have a chance to win. But the lame ass 'run it again' and weakness in taking big swings.... we get teams like the Leafs and Ottawa. Eventhough so many of the players come from Canada.... the decision makers come from the US.
totally - Canadian teams have not won for 30+ yrs now - its not any grand conspiracy - name me one Canadian team that has had excellent management over a sustained period of time ? there isn't one . Toronto had a period with Cliff Fletcher, and Burns and came close - they had chances with Pat Burns coaching - Ottawa forget it , Montreal has excellent management now - but have had a long list of clowns between now and Serge Savard, Same with Vancouver , Calgary hasn't really had excellent management since Cliff Fletcher, Edmonton was a clown show since Slats left and even now - they won how many lotteries to get to this ? Florida had 3 players that they drafted on their roster - that is some good pro scouting and some shrewd moves by Zitto. If some Canadian teams get that level of management for a while they will be having parades again .
Connor not going out to receive the Conn Smythe is 100% why they 'say' that a player on the losing team of the final should never receive the Conn Smythe.
Barkov is the rightful MVP, but the voting hockey media are just glorified hockey pool junkies. They read statistics and don't understand how winning is done. Connor was not only shut down in games 6 and 7, he was shut down in games 1,2, and 3 too. Barkov, aside from actually WINNING the Cup, shut down McDavid, and unlike McDavid, was his team's best and most consistent player in EVERY series.
The vote was almost unanimous (1 vote for someone other than McDavid). And the Panther leading for this was Bobrovsky, not Barkov.
@@aleung7248 Barkov was actually the leading Panther and 2nd in voting, Forsling was 3rd. One first place vote for Bob doesn't mean he finished 2nd in voting..also I said the voters are idiots - so idiots voting unanimously is supposed to mean something?
@@Julio-v1c if you have an issue with the voting, take it up with the sports writers who voted. Or go listen to Chris Johnston's response to those who disagreed with him voting for McDavid. It's done. I no longer care.
the best player in the world is Sasha Barkov.
i know because I saw him beat the guy everyone thought was the best in the world. not only did he beat his team, but he beat him 1 on 1.
barkov shut conor down defensively and barkov scored more goals to help his team win that conor could not do.
Barkov > Mcdavid
I would tend to agree with you - in terms of overall - obviously no one is turning down McDavid but his overall play and size - Barkov is definitely in the discussion for best player in the world right now IMO - he really doesn't have a flaw - maybe he doesn't shoot as often as he could or should - that is getting pretty nit picky . But on top of all the skill he is a big, thick horse of a man that means a lot in a long playoff - McDavid was completely exhausted and looks emaciated by the end - they kid definitely gave it everything he has
Kippers cool but these other two are clowns.
Sam's Conn Smythe take is insane.
Imagine McDavid says to his team (who he captains) at their absolute lowest moment "sorry guys i gotta leave to accept a personal award because new American hockey fans might think it's weird if i don't"
Well said!
It's a sore loser move not to accept the award, they should've done more to win. Stop babying grown men
@@tami3456 lol, ok tami.
It's would be more for his fans watching on TV the kids that look up to him the kids that play hockey because of him. McD was the last Oiler to leave the ice anyways so what would have been a few mins. He didn't have to take the trophy back to the room, but I feel he needed to go out and accept it
JB raises a phenomenal point...award the connsmythe at the award ceremony
I'm afraid another decade of darkness is coming in Edmonton. The Oilers blew their chance of winning the cup both last year and this year. As other teams in the NHL rise, I see the Oilers window for winning the cup rapidly closing. They have had too many missed opportunities. I hope I am wrong though.
FANTASTIC WIN for the Panthers Stanley Cup Champions
skinner was fine. reinhart's goal was a knuckle puck with draisatl stick check truly effecting the shot. it was very difficult to read
What a game. Have a good summer guys see you in the fall.
Bourneys facial hair and hair cut on point!
Imagine being a Panthers core player and you get traded during the draft and the parade is two days after. I get why it ended so late and the extra days off allowed for better rest for players, so I'm glad for that.
yeah it made for a better finals series overall - McDavid looked like he was refugee by the end of the playoffs - he plays probably 28-30 minutes / game . Knoblach found out how to be a genius coach - he says - 97 are you ready to go out again !! thats it
The reason everything is so tight is due to espn who you guys said we should sign a tv deal with 😂
If McDavid does not need Conn Smythe why not give it to Bobrovsky? I agree: McDavid did not deliver when it was most needed, whereas Bob, on the contrary, delivered when it was most needed. That's the difference.
Rats are stupid okay bud lol
C'mon Kyper "McDavid will be remembered for NOT being able to finish it off in game 6 and 7". This is early in his career. He is going to be back to the cup - probably several times. When this is remembered, it will just be 'one of his early attempts - before he won the cup" - and he will likely win it several times. I think he has a future like McKinnon - he is just going to keep improving.
Con Smythe needs to be handed out at the Awards Ceremony. Even Stevie Wonder can See giving it away on the ice is a bad look for all.
As a Cats fan, nothing but respect for Edmonton. Hell of a team, so impressive in the O zone it’s silly. That being said, you guys are coping on this pod. STILL making excuses why Edmonton lost, terrible look for you guys. Some of the fans however, were very obnoxious keyboard warriors the past two weeks. McDavid deserves a cup. GG Edmonton.
Remember this Guy's 1 SNIFF , NEVER another for SkinNBones and his Coilers
Sammy literally has the worst takes of all time lmao
What I dont understand is why is no one talking about Edmonton not pulling the goalie when they had possession with the big guys on the ice with 3 minutes left. You need a goal, waiting untill 1:30 was incredibly stupid.
Canada is like the Knicks?😂 is it stupid when Detroit throws octopus on the ice?
42:09 taking about oilers roster for next year dont forget they are already mins $3m of cap hit for overage from this year
I guess for now is to be continuing!
Interesting that Maurice has no faith in the team winning again next year. Let's hope for a Vancouver/Winnipeg matchup next year for the playoffs before they meet the Oilers then.
"What if's?" IF Vancouver had of had Demko in net, healthy, McDavid wouldn't even have been in the finals... So, yeah... What if's. They are all part of the toughest trophy to win in sports; attrition is a huge part of The Stanley Cup. Best "team" won. In the meantime, McDefense? still needs to learn there are 3 zones in hockey, before he can be considered anywhere near the "best hockey player in the world"; GOD DAMN, I'm SO bored of that ridiculous hyperbole. But, anyway, great playoffs overall.
The Oil needed to split the 2 games at the beginning of the series to win Mr. Stanley .All the best hockey fans .
Gyus, dont blame Skinner that hard. It is unfair.
It was the d-mans mistake. He did not kerp the blue line.
That you stick to one detail tells all on your thinking on the game. Thats not like a player thinks , but after game critic wiseguy.
There were more than 5 other chances that could have changed the match result.
4:00 - come on, Sammy. Connor felt what Tkachuk felt last season. And he’s gonna come back stronger than ever.
Panthers won the CUP so the would could should’ve don’t matter. Not to mention cats 1st cup
Christ all mighty bud. Stupidest tradition?
A team throws catfish - cool
A team throws octopus - cool
A team throws plastic rats - stupid
Come onnn.
Conor deserved the CS. Thru and thru. But stop riding the c**k. He left the ice, like many other future HOFers, during a Stanley cup loss. You make it seem like it’s the hockey version of the notebook.
I’m glad he didn’t come out to receive it. He did right by his teammates.
Don't make fun of team traditions.. Especially Fan Traditions. Bad Take and the McDavid drool is crazy... Barkov was the better player this WHOLE series. McDavid not going on out to the the Conn Smythe is perfectly acceptable. This is Hockey, shows grit and what I love about the sport.
Home ice? Exactly. This is why we say home ice comes in handy, game 7 at home. I kinda figured it would play out like that. It's not so bad, Maurice finally gets 1 well deserved, honestly. Great series, first cup for FlorEda Panthers. Mc David gets a CS, check and the experience will serve the club well. I expect Oilers-Leafs final next year. Peace ✌️ 😎.
Maybe he didn't come out to not take the focus off the panthers moment.
Guys I’ve reached my breaking point at 31 years of no cup in this country. 😤
There was no chance in hell mcdavid was coming back out to the ice
As an American. Sammie's take on the conn smythe trophy isn't a good one. The team didn't win. Why would he want to go celebrate a personal accomplishment when your teams in the locker room heartbroken.
Saw this elsewhere. Flames fans happy for Tkachuk is like cheering for your Ex who dumped you when they get married to someone way better.
When did they stop going into the dressing room to see the guys partying and being sprayed with Champagne and the interviews were better there.
They didn't used to give the Conn Smythe on the ice. Look up when Ziegler presented Billy Smith the trophy after the Islanders beat Edmonton in 1983. It was in the studio. I'm old enough to remember when Reggie Leach won and I saw the last game of the finals. All it was was the TV announcer saying, "The Conn Smythe trophy has been awarded to Reggie Leach." This is a whole bullshit issue and not even a real story and, believe me, no one south of the Canadian border cares, not even hockey fans. This is purely a Canadian masturbation over nothing. Also, the league president also used to just turn the cup over to the captain of the winning team. No stupid presentation speech. That started with Bettman.
Everytime I watch this show sam has the worst takes I’ve ever heard every time. There’s being a Homer then there’s just whatever he is.
Just an awful take by Sammy on the Conn Smyth... McDavid is the captain of his team, he is not gunna do the skate of shame in a building BOOING him for winning a trophy to go and try and smile and take it when he feels miserable. His place in that moment is in the room with his teamates, not taking a trophy at the lowest point of the year for him.
Maybe don't present the trophy to a guy on the losing team. McDavid was put into an impossible situation, but he made the right call, he chose his team over some personal award.
If you don't get that, you do NOT understand hockey at all.
I don’t blame McDavid for not sticking around to accept the Conn Smythe. If they insist on a player receiving it on the ice make it a rule that the player has to be from the winning team.
Yeah, I still remember JS Giguere going out to get it. That was hard to watch, and I don't think players should be forced to do that.
Connor McNoshow could not accept the trophy because he knows he did little in the Stanley cup final. Game 1 Noshow, Game 2 Noshow, Game 3 Noshow, Game 4 Noshow until game was over, Game 5 FINALLY shows up, Game 6 Noshow, and Game 7 Noshow. A bunch of No names and a rookie starting goalie are the only reason Edmonton did not go out in 4 games.Give the Conn Smyth to one of the No names or Skinner they came to play and exceeded expectations.
This shows a lack of understanding of hockey.
@@dvandyke84 Obviously a Noshow response.
It's also obvious out of the 3 who was NEVER. a leader on a sports team Sam " I gotta poop face" is so wrong about accepting the con smythe, the minute after losing. GTFOH
These people should not be doing sports analysis. First, the giant rat - great tradition. Second, the best team won. Please do not tell me how great McDavid is, he and his team lost! How many goals did he score on games 6 and 7?
How can they sit there and say the Oilers were the better team, and talk about how Florida kept it in there zone and were aggressive and played their game? Bunch of clowns, the better team made it Canada/USA who cares the better team won period
Does it really matter if a Canadian team wins the cup or not. Every team every year that win the Cup there are always more Canadian players on the club than any other country and they always bring in back home to celebrate anyway.
people that obsess over that I guarantee you go home at night and pull out a ruler and swear their tiny little chub is getting bigger - day after day after day
Trash argument for mcdavid winning the conn smythe. Barkovs shut down defense 5 on 5 and being on the Pk is conveniently over looked for mcdavids points. “Oh he had 8 points in games 4 and 5” oh but barkov ate mcdavids and draisaitls l😮nah games 1-3 and 6-7. Canadian writers couldn’t comprehend mcdavids preordained coronation didn’t happen. Especially to a non-traditional market. So they gave him a participation trophy
Part of me is glad Canada didn't get a Cup and part of me wants them to have one just so they can stop crying about it (which won't happen). These guys need to cover the American teams the way they do Toronto lol.
Why would they cover American teams? They’re based in Toronto and it’s a Canadian show. There’s ESPN, TNT and the NHL Network covering the US teams.
@@ArniePorter Well they may learn a thing or two, including you, about players in the league. Won't have to learn about Janmark, Ekblad, Barkov in the finals lol. . . "there's ESPN, TNT and the NHL" and no one asked you about it lol.
You guys never look at it from a "good for hockey" perspective. Just selfish hosers.
The cup stays out of the New Delhi Dictatorship Communist land of taxes and vaccination madness. God is great AND so is Paul Maurice!!
I really like listening to you guys as a listener from FL but do you really need to be so salty about any team in the states winning. Finding anything to complain about like traditions and fans is pathetic. Complain about the team that lost and couldn’t get it done and not the one who won it all. Leave the fans out of the conversation. P.S. Love throwing rats on the ice!
1993 last cup for the country is a few years
@@Powell19119 I agree it’s been a while but these teams aren’t competing for countries. They are competing as sports teams in a league. Canadians playing on both teams. When Vegas won last year I don’t think fans from other franchises were saying thank god the cup stayed in the United States. They were upset their team didn’t win.
@@Crab_13 Fans from what other franchises, though? Funny fact, Lord Stanley is in my father’s family tree. The Stanley Cup has been around for over a century. Just so happens the year 1993 coincides with the year Bettman came from NBA to the NHL. Caps and lockouts (complete seasons) are also part of history. And there’s a lot of people who banter about the history, statistics, culture, and superstitions. Also hockey is a bit further down in popularity in pro sports in USA than it is in Canada, (or some other countries). Fans don’t have to be geographical. Fans who buy season’s tickets are usually local. Canadian markets bring a lot of revenue to hockey. Not sporadic. Breaking into the south and other markets world wide helps the owners and the players’ salaries. Players are the ones who risk their lives/bodies for pro sports careers. Of course hockey is a lot more international and widespread. Getting players interested as young kids/fans to play the game is also important. When I was kid winters were all about hockey and other times of the year we’d play outside or in the gym. I doubt you’re gonna see many street hockey games in Vegas. Back in 2010 downtown Vancouver when we were at the Winter Olympics? There were countless street hockey games right in the downtown outdoor street mall. So history and culture may be different in the Jupiter/Miami area. I’m happy a Finn captain hoisted the cup. Happy for the coach who’s been at for decades. (You get the pic, it means different things to all)
@@Crab_13 🇨🇦 Hockey is in alotta fans’ DNA
🤡 Bourne is a such a dork lol
The Maple Leafs will will the Stanley Laurel & Oliver Hardy Cup.....why? Because they make us laugh and they were a great comedy team from the last century.
A friend once told me the Leafs will win the cup before man sets foot on Mars.....I don't think so.
Come game 7, I wanted the Oilers to win, not for Edmonton folk (especially the fans that are in the comment section complaining about 5 minutes of Leafs talk every other day) but for Torontos own, Connor McDavid!
Come home, McDavo!!!
Come home!
I think the Stanley cup playoffs should be in a neutral site so they don't have travel and can play every other day
Remember fans in Florida where already booing him before his name was completely finished so no respect from Florida fans listen they were booing him while Betman was saying his name and Florida fans were not being very respectful so why would he come out and it's not the only reason tell the guy in end what about fans disrespected him when he was named what kind off Fans are we dealing with uneducated about hockey
bwahahahaha Connor McChoked
these haters on shortnet are so butt hurt they're just squirming in their seats all bothered 😂
Cry babies
Florida play's the most boring hockey to watch oilers are the most exciting games to watch Florida was very lucky they should never have had a break down for being so good the winning goal was a goal Skinner should have had Florida can count themselves so lucky for not flopping apparently Drisitle had broken ribs and Conner needs some stomache surgery
Oilers were the better team……really. Lord Stanley would beg to differ. What a bunch of canadian muffins
If the Oilers had won game 3 in OT, they'd have won the cup at home in game 6 🤷♀
I might add, what a fantastic Stanley Cup 🏆 Finals. Between two teams playing and fighting for the same thing, as a true Canadian bleeding red and white for the flag of our great Nation we call Canada 🇨🇦, I also bleed Blue and White as well, I wanted the Edmonton Oilers to win the Stanley Cup 🏆, only one team can win it, and the best team won it, Congratulations 🎊 Florida Panthers, their first in franchise history, as a fan I wasn't even close to being upset. I commend the Edmonton Oilers for their comeback in franchise history to be out of a wildcard spot in November of 2023 according to their win/loss standings in the Pacific Division, to comeback and earn the playoff position, then go to the Stanley Cup Finals. Is impressive and especially when there's 31 other teams in the NHL, is unheard of and will be talked about for years to come. My hat goes off to them 100%! The Florida Panthers deserve and earned to win the Stanley Cup 🏆. Again, CONGRATULATIONS!!!! go out to Florida Panthers Ownership, coaching, coaching staff, Management, Organization, especially the players who earned it by their blood, sweat and tears. Go Panthers Go! Go Panthers Go! 🇨🇦 🍁🏒🥅👌👍
The Cats had 2 lives left this game: 1 for winning and 1 for celebrating. They figured out that oil is the new milk and they struck oil. We rich with oil baby! Stanley Cats For The Win 🇺🇲🏆❤️🤍💙🏆🇺🇲!
if you lose the football world cup final you ll get a medal and nobody rejects it. okay, usually it's not in the opponent's stadium
and the offside in game 6 was down to a hair. arguable. inconclusive. hockey gods sat front row in game 7 that's all i know
Dropped 3 won the important one. Go Cats🏒🥅
I agree Thank God Florida won
These three sound so salty. Better team won. Deal with it. 🐀🐀🐀
Bourne saying Edmonton was the BETTER TEAM last night?!?!? What fckin planet are we on here???? That's gotta be the worst of the worst from Bourne I just about spit out my coffee hearing that
I think he partially right. Think oilers looked more dangerous than the panthers offensively but panthers were good clogging up the slot limiting shots getting through
Panthers just capitalized on this two chances. Series played out like anyone would have predicted. Oilers are better offensively and panthers are better defensively and in net.
#1 ASS KISSER always was for the COILERS ..He should go and be there Reporter
Oilers had many chances. Fla shut em down and bodychecked everything im sight. Edm felt like watching my kids u15 non body checking league.
these guys are such losers.
they think losing is winning.
Love seeing the egos come back to earth. The better team won
How could you say Mcdavid was the best player in the playoffs?!?!?! Bobby was by far the best player and barkov was a close 2nd. Bob stood on his head all 4 series. The Mcdavid hopium is nuts-o
Listening to this pod is why Americans aren’t more into the sport. Because these clowns get a platform. Sam hating on a great tradition, and basically saying Fla is not the story..Bourne saying the Oilers were better in that game. Like just stop.
Where the hell are all the people here? what Edmonton loses then all the seagulls fly north locking themselves up in their poor me human mental horizon..
This is the problem with people today especially men who all get offended or upset when things don't go their way like a bunch of whining babies.. Fukn Jokes..
Tizz it Dizz ..
Trust the truth always then make a stand up for it..
"so if i can have one thing more, it be for the Winnipeg Jets to win the next Stanley Cup"- Paul Maurice.
Kyper and John Scott need a show where they just pronounce Euro Hockey Player's names.