You totally didn't understand the point of the original. The point was to learn to stand up for yourself and say No even if u think it may hurt someone's feelings
@@ermaberisha7416 in a good way 😂 I love horror but movies these days are so predictable. The original movie actually made me feel uneasy and scared. No one I knew had watched it so i couldn’t have a good chat about it so it swam around my head giving me goosebumps for a couple of weeks
This is the best "VS" on the internet. I am a 59 yr old horror fan & was totally chilled by the 2022 version. The 2024 is powerful but its impact is diluted. However McAvoy was outstanding.
@federicobalboa9145 As soon as I saw the trailer for the remake and watched the original, I thought it was a lot like Funny Games. Which is also a remake. Good call.
The Danish version works so well Bc of its slow, deep, steady build to a horribly disturbing ending. The standard hide and seek horror in the 2024 release ultimately diminishes how impactful the deep, personal and very real fear of this situation. The original was also more subtle. The original scene of Abel showing Bjorn his tongue is so bone chilling Bc it shows how much this child wants to help but not being able to communicate it. The remake is so blunt and blatant about it, and it takes away the horrifying factor of learning what happened to Abel's tongue. It genuinely makes such a massive difference. Subtlety is an art and is very necessary for a disturbing film like this one.
For me it's the difference between impact and entertainment. The 2022 movie has a much better impact and I have no desire to ever see it again. The 2024 one doesn't have that but I can watch it again and again
Yes! And the emasculation of Bjorn is communicated through such subtle moments, as opposed to the remake where we’re smacked in the face with a near comical presentation
It’s a social satire. How far do you want the story to go? The original goes that far. Some people don’t like films that end that way. If you prefer ‘happy endings’ the remake is for you.
I agree, you are rooting for the parents to get the hell out of there until it's too late. Sad and depressing ending but much more horrifying and it stays with you.
Parents in the original weren’t never going to make it . Unless they discarded being WOKE. Wokeness made people feel so “ safe”. . They lose their survival instincts.
I appreciate the subtleties of the original, even though I do love James McAvoy’s performance. We didn’t need to be hit over the head with Ben’s emasculation and the original communicates it much more elegantly
I think the remake suffers because it is a remake. If it was the first iteration of the story, then I think I would've liked it more. But I do think the darker ending of the original delivers the message alot better.
Wow, these actors look almost like brothers! I have not yet seen the remake, but the Danish film is one of the most disturbing things I've every come across in movies.
I like the original more because it really does make you think. Being actively infuriated as you watch the family end really puts things into perspective about real life. I, however, did enjoy seeing James give his best Shining performance. Good video as always mate!
@@bigboss8685Depends on who the families would be. There is a lot of passiveness in the world because people try not to be rude. The most unrealistic part in my eyes is going back for a bunny and ignoring all the signs but that’s in both movies. If going back for the bunny was inevitable then both movies endings are possible just depending on, again, who the families would be in place of.
@@MichaelJunior1999Speaking of families I thought it was a bit over done with how many of them were gone missing and killed and no news coverage or safety alerts? Mom, Dad and child just vanish, multiple of them and no public concern? From what I gathered it looked like over 20 families from the pictures we saw in the cabin. But we have to suspend disbelief. 😆
@@naturistfred Their vicitms are all from different countries which is why they seek them out at holiday resorts. So families go missing but there in no continuity and no interaction between police forces. It's an international story as opposed to a national one. This means it would be nigh on impossiple to make the forensic links that would lead to their capture.
@@oznjerzprobably shouldn’t remake things that get it so right the first time (the Vanishing, La Femme Nikita, Let the Right one in). There are many many examples of this. I tend to have more love for the originals - sometimes you give the remake some credit for having good taste to try to bring lesser known but great works to the general public but usually they diminish the originals. Even The Departed which I liked a lot I hear came from a foreign film which was better (which I still need to see).
The original is depressing however the message is very clear and the outcome would probably be more realistic if that happen in real life. However the remake is more exciting and overall leave the audience with a more fulfilling fill, in my opinion
The point of the movie doesn't make sense though. It becomes unbelievable. If two people who are unarmed are about to take your kid away, eventually you're going to fight back. You're not going to just let it happen.@@Sandybowls_9001
The remakes ending was a very americanized cliche treatment of the good guys triumphing. The original makes it so the cycle continues on, and the protagonists don't always win
Killers don’t always face consequences. But I’m glad you got your happy ending. I was not at all surprised to find out the remake changed the ending to make it more appealing to mainstream audiences.
I really enjoyed the remake! I think that it addressed some of the issues I had with the first one, but I 100% understand why people like the first one a good bit as well... very unsettling!
European films have an air of reality, Hollywood films have an air of an unreal Hollywood atmosphere that affects all aspects of characters, camera work, (over)acting etc.
Okay here's my opinion. I like the remake more. I know everyone is saying that it's Americanized and took away the bleak ending. But to me the bleak ending didn't make sense. The people were acting ineffectual to the point of stupidity. I understand the message is about the length people will go to to stay nice and pleasant. But if someone who is unarmed is taking your kid away from you and cutting their tongue out, and then is about to stone you to death. You're going to fight back. I don't care how nice you want to be.
Thank you!! There’s passive and then there’s moronic. The original parents were too polite to save themselves or their kid. I just don’t believe that’s true. It took me all the way out of the movie. I’m happy the remake parents fought back. They even could have lost but the fact that they tried to save their lives is all I needed.
Everytime I hear about Danish ending and how haunting it is that the couple did nothing, all I keep thinking is how frustrating I would be as an audience, and not simply because "I'm in my comfort at my seat." I had a depressive episode last year, and had to take a blood test. The sight of my own blood getting pulled out immediately pulled me back to reality, even for a little. The idea that these people didn't even have self preservation makes this a satire, not a horror movie.
Survival instincts are a fact, but not necessary always awaken, fear is more troublesome than you expect, people always believe they could have done something different and more logical, but the truth is, that even nature animals got paralyzed facing a moment of death, humans too
i never saw the original and only saw the remake just last night. it left me chilled and shaken and i almost cried a bit too. i'd say it's 9/10, but now i can't imagine how the original would make me feel. i'm really happy the remake had a resolution because it was really satisfying to see Patrick get what he deserved, especially from the one who suffered the most from him. while the original seems to be more impactful with it's messaging, i like to imagine the remake giving us what the serial killers deserved. it is a powerful message that too much kindness can be your downfall in a dangerous situation. i like to imagine people walk away not blaming the family, the victims, of this story, but obviously the serial killers as a cautionary tale to stand up for yourself in times that cross your boundaries. it's shame the remake didn't hit people as hard as it hit me, but that's ok. i really liked it. it was very haunting. i'm sure the original is even more disturbing with an ending like that, and i might go watch it sometime just to compare it myself. also the acting was amazing all around. good cinema
I gotta say I like both for different reasons. I think the remake delivers a more realistic ending of what parents would actually do if their child was in danger, whereas the original delivers a disturbing nihilistic ending to rival The Mist or ironically the remake’s director’s own movie Eden Lake
2022s version is perfectly Scandinavian in approach. Dark like the winters. Polite like its society. This as an American who lived there for a couple of years.
I disagree there was no foreshadowing in the newest one. There were two moments that caused me to wonder, 1. Patrick saying he enjoyed the hunt more than the kill 2. Ant wrote in German even though his “parents” are British Great comparisons otherwise though!
That definitely wasn't German it was Danish. Probably a nod to the original and also they aren't his ''parents'' remember. He was stolen from a family they met on holiday.
I’ve only seen the original. Just saw it on Saturday. The parents infuriated me so if the remake changes that…..that’s fine with me! I had zero sympathy for the 2022 parents. They were complete morons.
I totally agree with you the parents were so incompetent and sometimes I feel like they didn’t even care about their child and the teddy bear thing was so stupid just tell you damn child you’ll get another one and just get out of there damn
@@suphansa99 The teddy bear thing enraged me! As you said, she could get another one. It’s a life lesson the girl needed to learn since she kept misplacing it.
I agree that the cerebral idea of the movie is lessened by the ending, but, I disagree that a vegetarian who, in a socially pressured situation ate some meat, wouldn't fight to survive when presented with the information that they and their family are going to be killed. You could argue the remake's end, though less dark, actually makes it a little more impactful because it makes unbelievable characters more like real people, or, at least people's perception of how they would act. Meaning it has more of a 'this could happen to me' impact. The original, as much as I loved it for the idea at its core, has some rough reviews because the public audience generally didn't believe the actions towards the end of the movie. We all like to feel that in a situation where social aspects have dropped and you are faced with actual life or death, we would do x y z, but the characters in the original are too meek to do anything and just accept their fate. Where as, in the remake, once the penny has dropped that this isn't just an aggravating 2 days and then it's a story they tell friends, survival mode kicks in. To my mind, even though the core idea is watered down, the remake has agency for the imprisoned family and child that is sorely missing from the original, and it makes for a more believable story where people can see themselves in the situation the movie lays out (at least I would hope people would fight to survive). Good video though :)
I think movies have made us forget that people oftentimes freeze in fear. This idea that fight or flight makes your brain work ingeniously just isn't true. I found the couple's reaction in the original, from what we'd seen previously, quite believable and the couple's fight in the remake from what we'd seen wholly unbelievable personally. I've seen people remain mute and been taken advantage of in a workplace setting so often, and even work overtime to please the person taking advantage or treating thm cruelly so often that the original did not shock me at all. And while it's satire and an exaggerated version of this trope, it made perfect sense to me. Hell I've even seen a friend remain mute when a total stranger insulted her kid's hairstyle and I was the on who had to tell him to get lost because I stand on business and am not a people pleaser!
@@Sebas_M_Kinoman Oh yeah, don't get me wrong I'm not saying the events in the original could never happen, I'm fully aware of fight or flight. The most important bit of what I wrote was "at least people's perception of how they would act" because it's entirely perception that people would think the original is unbelievable nonsense and give it a 1 star review, which if you look at the Google reviews appears to have happened en mass. People believe that when presented with that situation they would absolutely do X Y Z, even though they have no evidence to back it up until it actually happens. And with fight or flight, some would, so you could just see the remake as an alternative universe where their survival mode is a lot stronger than their ability to deal with social faux pas. There are plenty of news worthy examples of people defying an inevitable death, or, kids escaping a kidnapper. Just as there are plenty of terrible stories of people staying with abusers. I just think the remake gives people something they can see themselves in more than the original which makes it more believable and more "satisfying".
When I first saw the trailer for the remake, I was genuinely confused because why were they uploading a new trailer to a movie several years old. Then I clicked on it, and quickly realize it was “Americanized”
The original one builds the tension from minute one and growing towards the horrifying end, without the need to over explain its characters. The remake tries to fix what didn't need to be fixed, over explains, over exposes everything and brings the "journey of the hero", which totally ruins the story. During the last part, the remake seemed more of a twisted "Home alone".
The tongue had a practical purpose in the original. Without the tongue, Ant/Abel had no way of expressing himself as a small child. When kids are this young, they eventually consider this situation as normal and develop a Stockholm Syndrome for the new parents. He was too young to fully understand the situation that he was kidnapped. He's basically inert and dormant during the guest's stay. The evil parents didn't have to concern themselves too much about his running off to tell the guests. He was essentially, mute. The remake Ant had satisfaction about what happened to Paddy. The original Abel, likely, would cry if that happened to Paddy, because he's been groomed to think that's his dad and doesn't know any better. The OG version of Abel is much more tragic, and sadly, realistic. In the remake, they aged the kids up, and Ant is fully aware and mentally competent enough to know he's a victim. His only communication obstacles are the language barrier and lack of tongue. He's basically, throughout the film, trying to sneakily find ways to convey this information to Agnes. He even has the intelligence to pretend to throw a football far to sneak off to the secret room and sneak dad's keys, something the original Ant/Abel would never think or know or want to do. Agnes, too, is much more mature and aware here and is able to convey information to adults. So, it's a massive plot mishap in the remake that the hosts would arrange she and Ant sleep in the same bedroom together, knowing that they could communicate with one another and that information could leak. All of this worked in the original. It renders the tongue removal practically unnecessary if it's being done on an aware almost-12-year-old. For a child abductor, it has a functional practical use on a small child almost toddler-aged. They aged Agnes up that the remake had to add in the line that Agnes too old for her bunny. In the original, she was the right age.
I didn't know this movie was being made, and honestly I felt it didn't need to be. Like the remake of Martyrs, they gave it a "happy" ending to appeal to American audiences.
They changed too much. They gave it a comic book action ending. The remake did not make it explicitly clear in the twist reveal that the evil couple were abducting children from guests and slicing their tongues off so they couldn’t speak. Ant made a scissor motion early on, but that’s not enough to reveal he has no tongue. we never got a reveal that the couple had it sliced off. This is a plot point people would only piece together having seen the original first. It’s a travesty to leave this very integral and unsettling reveal out of the remake. The uncomfortable dynamic between the couples is totally absent in the original. In the original, Bjorn (Ben) was weak. He tries to prove to his wife he’s a man but fails. The couple were being picked on by the evil couple who were taking advantage of their passiveness. They kept testing their limits. The remake couple weren’t like this at all. They were relatable. Louise wasn’t afraid to call out weird when she sees weird. In the original, the wife eats the meat offered to her by Paddy. This is Paddy testing her limits. In the remake, she spits it out. When Paddy in the original informs the couple he’s not a doctor, he simply admits he lied. He doesn’t care about their reaction; he knows they’ll take it. Original Paddy delivers this coldy and sternly, while remake Paddy delivers his “not working” as comic relief. The remake had to tack on Paddy saying he was “joking” about not being a doctor. This is how much they dumbed diem the material. The film wanted to make this couple too likeable, and if the couple still stuck around after finding out Paddy isn’t a doctor, we can’t root for them anymore, and we can’t have that in a Hollywood film.
I’ve seen both. Ideally I’d like the first two thirds of the remake and the end of the original please 😂 I felt the subtle difference between the two is in the original the visiting couple have both become unable to fight back or even face an embarrassing scene to get out because they’ve been softened by a comfortable middle class life whereas the remake is more about the visiting husband/father not being ‘man enough’ to stand up to Paddy or even back up his wife when she does. As a man I found that frustrating but deep down I know there’s truth there. The original takes it to the other extreme… when given the chance to escape just by jumping in the drivers seat and driving away (although Karen was in the back with a pair of scissors) Bjorn couldn’t do it. I felt frustrated by that because I think no matter how weak a person you might be, at that point you know it’s that or death so you try at least. Nether movie is perfect but both really good. I’d watch both again.
At that point Bjorn doesn't know she has the scissors but yeah I hear you. However the point of that scene is to show just how people pleasing and cowardly Bjorn is. Patrick knows that which is why I think he PURPOSELY leaves the key in the ignition. It's not an oversight. He actually has Hannibal Lector levels of human perception!
I like that they changed the ending for those who want to see them fight, now we have two versions of the film, not just a copy. And I loved the performances in the remake more. Felt more realistic. Mcavoy is perfect in the role of paddy
I have a theory that this wasn't a remake, it seems as though it's a revenge movie for the original and most likely sort of a sequel. Could also be that this new one is a different family meeting the same Danish family from the original, but this time things end differently.
If you have a good relationship with the original, it's difficult to sway that no matter what later versions do. I'm sure the remake is fine considering the talent involved, but I doubt it'll change my impression.
It's almost like it was made for two different and distinct audiences. The idea that someone could be so polite as to allow themselves to be murdered because they don't want to inconvenience someone would not work for an American audience. I don't think that's a problem most Americans would have.
And if we are discussing which one of the 3rd acts are more realistic, I'd say none of them. Because the original's ending is no less unrealistic than the remake's.
I watched the original yesterday. Liked it, and I'd give it props for taking the theme head on and being brutal as hell. But there are also major grudges with how the script treats Bjorn and Louise in the last 30 minutes. Being polite because your culture doesn't allow you to be impolite is one thing, but when it comes to life or death everyone is wired by nature to have a survival instinct. Doesnt matter that you fail but anyone would at least try to save themselves. The last act of the original is a story of self sabotage, and I felt it did the characters dirty by making them puppets. It just completely went on a hyperbole in the last act to throw every last shred of survival/parental instinct away, hence I could no longer relate to the characters after that. I would have sided by the same outcome but there needed to be a fleck of realism in how they responded to actual danger standing in their face once Bjorn knew what was about to happen. There were a few story decisions that didn't make sense just going by what a natural (not american) response to such threat would be. Having said that, I believe it was a great film and achieved what it went out to get perfectly, so it stands between 3.5- 4/5 stars for me.
The difference in ending 😯. The original is the saddest thing ever. It's like a "pick your ending" take- inadvertently. I love both but the happy ending left me feeling much better tbh. 😅. Sidenote - I love the authentic and the real scenery. No sound stages, CGI backgrounds; just real environments.
Do people not realise the newer one is allowed to be its own thing & be different? Rather watch a new take on it than watch the same thing again, which this video is basically saying. Its like a band releasing the same album twice, literally no one needs that
Now coming to the remake, yes they have a changed ending. Till the last maybe 40 minutes the movie is more or less same plot wise with a lot of scenes directly lifted. Though the tone of the acting and direction is entirely different, so instead of a claustrophobic toxicity what you get is awkward giggles and then some fist clenching tension. The narrative on a deeper level is even more fucked in this one because here Paddy is not only hurting the people he takes hostage. You'd know when you see it what I mean. And of course the subtext about cultural conditioning doesn't make sense here with the subjects being American so we have a new dynamic put in between the victim couple, something that entirely makes sense and makes their somewhat stupid decision making believable. You'd feel like they are going to get out now, but then they get stopped and stay back. How, You'd need to see the film to know that, but I can tell you as much that it's not stupid at all. We get a very stretched out moment of tension before the 3rd acts drops like a bomb on the screen, and I'd watch the movie again and again just for those 15 extra minutes which were not in the original. All in all, it's definitely not as bleak but it drives its message home with certain success! Plus, you get a great time at cinema and this time you finally would be able to somewhat root for the characters to not die! I'd give an extra point for the great fun I had so, it's at 4-4.5/5 for me personally. It's not a bad 'americanized' remake and in no way disrespectful of its source material. Definitely worth a fair chance, I'd say!!
The 2024 remake was an unnecessary retelling of a movie that was already good as it was. Too Americanized/Hollywoodized for my tastes, made for a pretty generic and predictable movie. The OG one really played with your emotions and stuck with me longer because of how disturbing it was. 2024 is way more forgettable sorry
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I had more simpathy for the original couple, I wanted them to survive. The original father was too nice and a little dumb. Now, I wouldn't mind if the remake couple had died, and I was so angry at the remake father because he was such a coward leaving the traumatized boy to do what had to be done at the end. During the whole movie he was not being kind, he was being a pushover, the mother had to take charge and snap him out of his sorry ass state to take some action. If it wasn't for her, they would have died for sure. The only good thing that he did was saving the boy from drowning, but still I was surprised that this guy managed to survive.
I didn’t see it as he left the boy to do what needed to be done to Paddy… I saw it as he didn’t want to lower himself to be like the animal that was Paddy. He thought about killing him but realised that he was better than that and he would call the police and let the law deal with him because there is some things that are redeemable in being civilised.
2024, easily. It will be far more rewatchable because it's more relaxing and humourful in places to watch and the turn in to horror is more interestingly done, despite 2022 being more gruesome. The 2022 movie is more simple and makes little sense in places. Why was the building with the evidence of murder so easily accessible and OPEN? Does he really see the boy, drowned? If so, why doesn't he tell his wife? Why don't they run for their lives instead of stripping? Why is the girl so immediately compliant at the end as if just to neatly fit in with the movie title?
Which Speak No Evil movie do you prefer? Let me know your thoughts in the comments!
2022 hands down, leaps and bounds better
The original was a reminder for me why you should never talk to strangers, even as an adult.
You totally didn't understand the point of the original. The point was to learn to stand up for yourself and say No even if u think it may hurt someone's feelings
Especially as an adult!
The original left me shaken for weeks after watching 😮
Same!
Don't watch A Serbian Film then. You'll be in a coma for years.
U guys need a therapist!!!
@@ermaberisha7416 in a good way 😂 I love horror but movies these days are so predictable. The original movie actually made me feel uneasy and scared. No one I knew had watched it so i couldn’t have a good chat about it so it swam around my head giving me goosebumps for a couple of weeks
Yeah man. The rock scene is one of the most fucked up scenes I've ever seen. @BrainPilot
This is the best "VS" on the internet. I am a 59 yr old horror fan & was totally chilled by the 2022 version. The 2024 is powerful but its impact is diluted. However McAvoy was outstanding.
Seconded! Watch the original! Mcavoy is a great actor but the portrayal of covert malice by Fedja van Huet is outstanding!
And the ending in the two year later remake is just a let down
It's like they wanted McAvoy to go full "SPLIT" psychopath instead of the subdued and calm deception of the original.
@@_GeneralMechanics_this. It was overacting and cliched.
The original Speak No Evil reminds me of Haneke's Funny Games-a raw and unsettling film.
Agree
@federicobalboa9145 As soon as I saw the trailer for the remake and watched the original, I thought it was a lot like Funny Games. Which is also a remake. Good call.
EXACTLY
Yeah funny games 1997 was the OG mind f@ck film, again the remake didn’t hit the same even though it was made by the same guy
@@THEMARCKNIGHT89the remake isnt as goodas the 97 OG
The remake gives you nightmares to where the first one gives you PTSD
"Things are about to get much worse"
The Danish version works so well Bc of its slow, deep, steady build to a horribly disturbing ending. The standard hide and seek horror in the 2024 release ultimately diminishes how impactful the deep, personal and very real fear of this situation. The original was also more subtle. The original scene of Abel showing Bjorn his tongue is so bone chilling Bc it shows how much this child wants to help but not being able to communicate it. The remake is so blunt and blatant about it, and it takes away the horrifying factor of learning what happened to Abel's tongue. It genuinely makes such a massive difference. Subtlety is an art and is very necessary for a disturbing film like this one.
For me it's the difference between impact and entertainment. The 2022 movie has a much better impact and I have no desire to ever see it again. The 2024 one doesn't have that but I can watch it again and again
Yes! And the emasculation of Bjorn is communicated through such subtle moments, as opposed to the remake where we’re smacked in the face with a near comical presentation
Yeah, too bad the boy can't write something on paper or on a screen. This is a plot hole.
I feel as though this wasn't a remake and rather a sequel, I have a theory that this is the same family from the Danish movie but ofc different actors
@@Forwise1 I agree it feels acceptable as a prequel/sequel! That is how I may recommend them.
To defend the remake, the "weak" couple finally fight back when they realise other couple are KILLERS!!! That's fair enough logic!!!
Missed the whole point of why the original was made in the first place, american film makers are low IQ
It’s a social satire. How far do you want the story to go? The original goes that far. Some people don’t like films that end that way. If you prefer ‘happy endings’ the remake is for you.
I agree, you are rooting for the parents to get the hell out of there until it's too late. Sad and depressing ending but much more horrifying and it stays with you.
Parents in the original weren’t never going to make it . Unless they discarded being WOKE.
Wokeness made people feel so “ safe”. . They lose their survival instincts.
I appreciate the subtleties of the original, even though I do love James McAvoy’s performance. We didn’t need to be hit over the head with Ben’s emasculation and the original communicates it much more elegantly
That's what I thought too. Same thing happened when they remade "Martyrs."
I would’ve been fine with a brutal ending but not fighting back was unforgivable to me
I think the remake suffers because it is a remake. If it was the first iteration of the story, then I think I would've liked it more. But I do think the darker ending of the original delivers the message alot better.
Agreed 100%
Yes it did make me think of my own boundaries.
Yeah it could’ve been a seperate story. Or either them down the line
Wow, these actors look almost like brothers! I have not yet seen the remake, but the Danish film is one of the most disturbing things I've every come across in movies.
The second I saw the trailer I knew that the American wife wouldn’t be silent.
Yeah, she’s an educated American white lady lol and she’s taller than him, which they obviously want us to notice
I like the original more because it really does make you think. Being actively infuriated as you watch the family end really puts things into perspective about real life. I, however, did enjoy seeing James give his best Shining performance. Good video as always mate!
Yeah James McAvoy was incredible in this one. Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed!
If you want to feel haunted, watch the original. If you want to feel a sense of hope, watch the remake.
No the original ending was so unrealistic and stupid.
@@bigboss8685Depends on who the families would be. There is a lot of passiveness in the world because people try not to be rude. The most unrealistic part in my eyes is going back for a bunny and ignoring all the signs but that’s in both movies. If going back for the bunny was inevitable then both movies endings are possible just depending on, again, who the families would be in place of.
@@MichaelJunior1999Speaking of families I thought it was a bit over done with how many of them were gone missing and killed and no news coverage or safety alerts? Mom, Dad and child just vanish, multiple of them and no public concern? From what I gathered it looked like over 20 families from the pictures we saw in the cabin. But we have to suspend disbelief. 😆
@@naturistfred Their vicitms are all from different countries which is why they seek them out at holiday resorts. So families go missing but there in no continuity and no interaction between police forces. It's an international story as opposed to a national one. This means it would be nigh on impossiple to make the forensic links that would lead to their capture.
I felt the same about The Vanishing and its remake back in 1993.
The remake of The Vanishing was bad on many levels.
@@oznjerzprobably shouldn’t remake things that get it so right the first time (the Vanishing, La Femme Nikita, Let the Right one in). There are many many examples of this. I tend to have more love for the originals - sometimes you give the remake some credit for having good taste to try to bring lesser known but great works to the general public but usually they diminish the originals. Even The Departed which I liked a lot I hear came from a foreign film which was better (which I still need to see).
I was just glad it wasn't a shot for shot remake for once.
Yeah that's fair! It was nice seeing certain similarities for sure. I would have liked the same outcome of the ending though
I have a theory it wasn't a remake and rather some type of sequel to the original film. Because of the ending
The original is depressing however the message is very clear and the outcome would probably be more realistic if that happen in real life. However the remake is more exciting and overall leave the audience with a more fulfilling fill, in my opinion
European vs American films in a nutshell
I enjoyed the ending of the remake since it gives the catharsis of the killers finally facing consequences.
Yeah but didn't that go against the point of the whole movie just to please an audience?
@@Sandybowls_9001 well it still didnt please the audience, since the little boy continued the cycle of violence
The point of the movie doesn't make sense though. It becomes unbelievable. If two people who are unarmed are about to take your kid away, eventually you're going to fight back. You're not going to just let it happen.@@Sandybowls_9001
The remakes ending was a very americanized cliche treatment of the good guys triumphing. The original makes it so the cycle continues on, and the protagonists don't always win
Killers don’t always face consequences. But I’m glad you got your happy ending. I was not at all surprised to find out the remake changed the ending to make it more appealing to mainstream audiences.
I really enjoyed the remake! I think that it addressed some of the issues I had with the first one, but I 100% understand why people like the first one a good bit as well... very unsettling!
European films have an air of reality, Hollywood films have an air of an unreal Hollywood atmosphere that affects all aspects of characters, camera work, (over)acting etc.
Okay here's my opinion. I like the remake more. I know everyone is saying that it's Americanized and took away the bleak ending. But to me the bleak ending didn't make sense. The people were acting ineffectual to the point of stupidity. I understand the message is about the length people will go to to stay nice and pleasant. But if someone who is unarmed is taking your kid away from you and cutting their tongue out, and then is about to stone you to death. You're going to fight back. I don't care how nice you want to be.
Thank you!! There’s passive and then there’s moronic. The original parents were too polite to save themselves or their kid. I just don’t believe that’s true. It took me all the way out of the movie. I’m happy the remake parents fought back. They even could have lost but the fact that they tried to save their lives is all I needed.
Same, same, same!!
I think a happy medium would have been trying to fight back, but it’s still too late. Everything working out doesn’t make much sense either
100%.... a little thing called the SURVIVAL INSTINCT would kick in, even with the weakest person!! The remake is far better IMO
Everytime I hear about Danish ending and how haunting it is that the couple did nothing, all I keep thinking is how frustrating I would be as an audience, and not simply because "I'm in my comfort at my seat."
I had a depressive episode last year, and had to take a blood test. The sight of my own blood getting pulled out immediately pulled me back to reality, even for a little.
The idea that these people didn't even have self preservation makes this a satire, not a horror movie.
No matter how nice you are, basic instinct like survival instincts will kick in.
It’s a satirical presentation of politeness. It’s not meant to be realistic
@@abandonablesnowman it was a reply to the narrator who was saying that the fight back was out of their characteristics.
Survival instincts are a fact, but not necessary always awaken, fear is more troublesome than you expect, people always believe they could have done something different and more logical, but the truth is, that even nature animals got paralyzed facing a moment of death, humans too
i never saw the original and only saw the remake just last night. it left me chilled and shaken and i almost cried a bit too. i'd say it's 9/10, but now i can't imagine how the original would make me feel. i'm really happy the remake had a resolution because it was really satisfying to see Patrick get what he deserved, especially from the one who suffered the most from him. while the original seems to be more impactful with it's messaging, i like to imagine the remake giving us what the serial killers deserved. it is a powerful message that too much kindness can be your downfall in a dangerous situation. i like to imagine people walk away not blaming the family, the victims, of this story, but obviously the serial killers as a cautionary tale to stand up for yourself in times that cross your boundaries. it's shame the remake didn't hit people as hard as it hit me, but that's ok. i really liked it. it was very haunting. i'm sure the original is even more disturbing with an ending like that, and i might go watch it sometime just to compare it myself. also the acting was amazing all around. good cinema
I loved one comment I read about these films: The 2024 version could've been a sequel where the chosen family does fight back in the end.
The original sucks
I gotta say I like both for different reasons. I think the remake delivers a more realistic ending of what parents would actually do if their child was in danger, whereas the original delivers a disturbing nihilistic ending to rival The Mist or ironically the remake’s director’s own movie Eden Lake
typical remake making changes and watering down the main point of the movie.
It's America, they toned down the child abuse. Shocker, right? I knew they would water it down.
2022s version is perfectly Scandinavian in approach. Dark like the winters. Polite like its society. This as an American who lived there for a couple of years.
I disagree there was no foreshadowing in the newest one. There were two moments that caused me to wonder, 1. Patrick saying he enjoyed the hunt more than the kill 2. Ant wrote in German even though his “parents” are British
Great comparisons otherwise though!
That definitely wasn't German it was Danish. Probably a nod to the original and also they aren't his ''parents'' remember. He was stolen from a family they met on holiday.
This reminds me of the Funny Games movie with Naomi Watts. It was also an Americanized remake but they kept the bleak ending/unhappy ending.
Yeah true!
There was no need to remake this film. I was absolutely shaken after watching the original. Very disturbing film.
Just finished it. It felt like a parable for people pleasing. Don't let yourself become a victim by not speaking up.
The original is deeper and carries better the message
. The remake is less depressing and Mc Avoy is spectacular
I’ve only seen the original. Just saw it on Saturday. The parents infuriated me so if the remake changes that…..that’s fine with me! I had zero sympathy for the 2022 parents. They were complete morons.
I totally agree with you the parents were so incompetent and sometimes I feel like they didn’t even care about their child and the teddy bear thing was so stupid just tell you damn child you’ll get another one and just get out of there damn
@@suphansa99 The teddy bear thing enraged me! As you said, she could get another one. It’s a life lesson the girl needed to learn since she kept misplacing it.
you can't beat the original...saw it yesterday and it's amazing
Yeah the original is great!
I agree that the cerebral idea of the movie is lessened by the ending, but, I disagree that a vegetarian who, in a socially pressured situation ate some meat, wouldn't fight to survive when presented with the information that they and their family are going to be killed.
You could argue the remake's end, though less dark, actually makes it a little more impactful because it makes unbelievable characters more like real people, or, at least people's perception of how they would act. Meaning it has more of a 'this could happen to me' impact.
The original, as much as I loved it for the idea at its core, has some rough reviews because the public audience generally didn't believe the actions towards the end of the movie. We all like to feel that in a situation where social aspects have dropped and you are faced with actual life or death, we would do x y z, but the characters in the original are too meek to do anything and just accept their fate.
Where as, in the remake, once the penny has dropped that this isn't just an aggravating 2 days and then it's a story they tell friends, survival mode kicks in.
To my mind, even though the core idea is watered down, the remake has agency for the imprisoned family and child that is sorely missing from the original, and it makes for a more believable story where people can see themselves in the situation the movie lays out (at least I would hope people would fight to survive).
Good video though :)
Totally fair interpretation man. Glad you enjoyed the vid!
I think movies have made us forget that people oftentimes freeze in fear. This idea that fight or flight makes your brain work ingeniously just isn't true. I found the couple's reaction in the original, from what we'd seen previously, quite believable and the couple's fight in the remake from what we'd seen wholly unbelievable personally.
I've seen people remain mute and been taken advantage of in a workplace setting so often, and even work overtime to please the person taking advantage or treating thm cruelly so often that the original did not shock me at all. And while it's satire and an exaggerated version of this trope, it made perfect sense to me.
Hell I've even seen a friend remain mute when a total stranger insulted her kid's hairstyle and I was the on who had to tell him to get lost because I stand on business and am not a people pleaser!
There three possible actions in psychology proposed by Henri Laborit, when facing a shocking situation, Fight or Flight and finally Inhibition
@@Sebas_M_Kinoman Oh yeah, don't get me wrong I'm not saying the events in the original could never happen, I'm fully aware of fight or flight. The most important bit of what I wrote was "at least people's perception of how they would act" because it's entirely perception that people would think the original is unbelievable nonsense and give it a 1 star review, which if you look at the Google reviews appears to have happened en mass.
People believe that when presented with that situation they would absolutely do X Y Z, even though they have no evidence to back it up until it actually happens. And with fight or flight, some would, so you could just see the remake as an alternative universe where their survival mode is a lot stronger than their ability to deal with social faux pas. There are plenty of news worthy examples of people defying an inevitable death, or, kids escaping a kidnapper. Just as there are plenty of terrible stories of people staying with abusers. I just think the remake gives people something they can see themselves in more than the original which makes it more believable and more "satisfying".
Great job rating these movies!
When I first saw the trailer for the remake, I was genuinely confused because why were they uploading a new trailer to a movie several years old. Then I clicked on it, and quickly realize it was “Americanized”
The original one builds the tension from minute one and growing towards the horrifying end, without the need to over explain its characters. The remake tries to fix what didn't need to be fixed, over explains, over exposes everything and brings the "journey of the hero", which totally ruins the story. During the last part, the remake seemed more of a twisted "Home alone".
Yeah it was kind of like Home Alone!
Paddy: You Did Good Ant You Did Good
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The tongue had a practical purpose in the original. Without the tongue, Ant/Abel had no way of expressing himself as a small child. When kids are this young, they eventually consider this situation as normal and develop a Stockholm Syndrome for the new parents. He was too young to fully understand the situation that he was kidnapped. He's basically inert and dormant during the guest's stay. The evil parents didn't have to concern themselves too much about his running off to tell the guests. He was essentially, mute.
The remake Ant had satisfaction about what happened to Paddy. The original Abel, likely, would cry if that happened to Paddy, because he's been groomed to think that's his dad and doesn't know any better. The OG version of Abel is much more tragic, and sadly, realistic.
In the remake, they aged the kids up, and Ant is fully aware and mentally competent enough to know he's a victim. His only communication obstacles are the language barrier and lack of tongue. He's basically, throughout the film, trying to sneakily find ways to convey this information to Agnes. He even has the intelligence to pretend to throw a football far to sneak off to the secret room and sneak dad's keys, something the original Ant/Abel would never think or know or want to do.
Agnes, too, is much more mature and aware here and is able to convey information to adults. So, it's a massive plot mishap in the remake that the hosts would arrange she and Ant sleep in the same bedroom together, knowing that they could communicate with one another and that information could leak. All of this worked in the original.
It renders the tongue removal practically unnecessary if it's being done on an aware almost-12-year-old. For a child abductor, it has a functional practical use on a small child almost toddler-aged.
They aged Agnes up that the remake had to add in the line that Agnes too old for her bunny. In the original, she was the right age.
I didn't know this movie was being made, and honestly I felt it didn't need to be. Like the remake of Martyrs, they gave it a "happy" ending to appeal to American audiences.
They changed too much. They gave it a comic book action ending.
The remake did not make it explicitly clear in the twist reveal that the evil couple were abducting children from guests and slicing their tongues off so they couldn’t speak. Ant made a scissor motion early on, but that’s not enough to reveal he has no tongue. we never got a reveal that the couple had it sliced off. This is a plot point people would only piece together having seen the original first. It’s a travesty to leave this very integral and unsettling reveal out of the remake.
The uncomfortable dynamic between the couples is totally absent in the original.
In the original, Bjorn (Ben) was weak. He tries to prove to his wife he’s a man but fails. The couple were being picked on by the evil couple who were taking advantage of their passiveness. They kept testing their limits.
The remake couple weren’t like this at all. They were relatable. Louise wasn’t afraid to call out weird when she sees weird.
In the original, the wife eats the meat offered to her by Paddy. This is Paddy testing her limits. In the remake, she spits it out.
When Paddy in the original informs the couple he’s not a doctor, he simply admits he lied. He doesn’t care about their reaction; he knows they’ll take it.
Original Paddy delivers this coldy and sternly, while remake Paddy delivers his “not working” as comic relief.
The remake had to tack on Paddy saying he was “joking” about not being a doctor. This is how much they dumbed diem the material. The film wanted to make this couple too likeable, and if the couple still stuck around after finding out Paddy isn’t a doctor, we can’t root for them anymore, and we can’t have that in a Hollywood film.
I believe the new one is a revenge plot of the original it really wasn't a remake but actually a sequel
I’m sorry… I saw the remake first and it was very obvious they were cutting the kids tongues off and I had no trouble making that connection
I’ve seen both. Ideally I’d like the first two thirds of the remake and the end of the original please 😂
I felt the subtle difference between the two is in the original the visiting couple have both become unable to fight back or even face an embarrassing scene to get out because they’ve been softened by a comfortable middle class life whereas the remake is more about the visiting husband/father not being ‘man enough’ to stand up to Paddy or even back up his wife when she does. As a man I found that frustrating but deep down I know there’s truth there. The original takes it to the other extreme… when given the chance to escape just by jumping in the drivers seat and driving away (although Karen was in the back with a pair of scissors) Bjorn couldn’t do it. I felt frustrated by that because I think no matter how weak a person you might be, at that point you know it’s that or death so you try at least. Nether movie is perfect but both really good. I’d watch both again.
At that point Bjorn doesn't know she has the scissors but yeah I hear you. However the point of that scene is to show just how people pleasing and cowardly Bjorn is. Patrick knows that which is why I think he PURPOSELY leaves the key in the ignition. It's not an oversight. He actually has Hannibal Lector levels of human perception!
They didn't need to remake this. The first one was great!!!
I agree. I'll still watch it but I'm not excited about watching the new one. Seems pointless.
@@MrJbee1982Changes made in the remake is what draws me to see it. But much prefer the original.
@@MrJbee1982 Same here exactly
I like that they changed the ending for those who want to see them fight, now we have two versions of the film, not just a copy. And I loved the performances in the remake more. Felt more realistic. Mcavoy is perfect in the role of paddy
I have a theory that this wasn't a remake, it seems as though it's a revenge movie for the original and most likely sort of a sequel. Could also be that this new one is a different family meeting the same Danish family from the original, but this time things end differently.
I liked the remake because the ending was more satisfying. The original left me pissed off.
If you have a good relationship with the original, it's difficult to sway that no matter what later versions do. I'm sure the remake is fine considering the talent involved, but I doubt it'll change my impression.
Well put. It's worth a watch for sure but it doesn't surpass the original
the protagonist winning in the end? sounds like the most hollywood ending to a movie
The original is in 3 languages. All the Danish is subtitled. The Dutch is not. That makes the entire build up work better and the ending hits harder
It's almost like it was made for two different and distinct audiences. The idea that someone could be so polite as to allow themselves to be murdered because they don't want to inconvenience someone would not work for an American audience. I don't think that's a problem most Americans would have.
And if we are discussing which one of the 3rd acts are more realistic, I'd say none of them. Because the original's ending is no less unrealistic than the remake's.
I watched the original yesterday. Liked it, and I'd give it props for taking the theme head on and being brutal as hell. But there are also major grudges with how the script treats Bjorn and Louise in the last 30 minutes.
Being polite because your culture doesn't allow you to be impolite is one thing, but when it comes to life or death everyone is wired by nature to have a survival instinct. Doesnt matter that you fail but anyone would at least try to save themselves. The last act of the original is a story of self sabotage, and I felt it did the characters dirty by making them puppets. It just completely went on a hyperbole in the last act to throw every last shred of survival/parental instinct away, hence I could no longer relate to the characters after that. I would have sided by the same outcome but there needed to be a fleck of realism in how they responded to actual danger standing in their face once Bjorn knew what was about to happen. There were a few story decisions that didn't make sense just going by what a natural (not american) response to such threat would be. Having said that, I believe it was a great film and achieved what it went out to get perfectly, so it stands between 3.5- 4/5 stars for me.
LOL they did a remake after 2 years, what is wrong with you?.
Not seen the new one yet but loved the original
New one is definitely worth a watch as there are some drastic differences, but I preferred the original!
I cant believe this is even a topic of conversation
The new one doesn't shock you like the original. Expected ending for the remake imo
Yeah it doesn't have that shock factor at all!
The difference in ending 😯. The original is the saddest thing ever. It's like a "pick your ending" take- inadvertently. I love both but the happy ending left me feeling much better tbh. 😅.
Sidenote - I love the authentic and the real scenery. No sound stages, CGI backgrounds; just real environments.
The remake is just another Hollywood flick, whereas the original rocks.😅
So basically, both are an insanely more violent version of ‘Funny Games’?
Yeah kind of!
Do people not realise the newer one is allowed to be its own thing & be different? Rather watch a new take on it than watch the same thing again, which this video is basically saying. Its like a band releasing the same album twice, literally no one needs that
Or it can maybe just a be sequel to the original?
thank god im not going crazy I could have sworn ive seen the movie before when they showed the trailer movie for the remake
I’m glad they decided to fight back lol .
Thanks!
I like this one because I can understand the language 🤪
Now coming to the remake, yes they have a changed ending. Till the last maybe 40 minutes the movie is more or less same plot wise with a lot of scenes directly lifted. Though the tone of the acting and direction is entirely different, so instead of a claustrophobic toxicity what you get is awkward giggles and then some fist clenching tension.
The narrative on a deeper level is even more fucked in this one because here Paddy is not only hurting the people he takes hostage. You'd know when you see it what I mean. And of course the subtext about cultural conditioning doesn't make sense here with the subjects being American so we have a new dynamic put in between the victim couple, something that entirely makes sense and makes their somewhat stupid decision making believable. You'd feel like they are going to get out now, but then they get stopped and stay back. How, You'd need to see the film to know that, but I can tell you as much that it's not stupid at all. We get a very stretched out moment of tension before the 3rd acts drops like a bomb on the screen, and I'd watch the movie again and again just for those 15 extra minutes which were not in the original. All in all, it's definitely not as bleak but it drives its message home with certain success! Plus, you get a great time at cinema and this time you finally would be able to somewhat root for the characters to not die! I'd give an extra point for the great fun I had so, it's at 4-4.5/5 for me personally.
It's not a bad 'americanized' remake and in no way disrespectful of its source material. Definitely worth a fair chance, I'd say!!
Dead on 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Original was trash imo
Why in the thumbnail does the first guy look like a ps3 graphic and then mcavoy looks like a ps5 remaster 😂
The 2024 remake was an unnecessary retelling of a movie that was already good as it was. Too Americanized/Hollywoodized for my tastes, made for a pretty generic and predictable movie. The OG one really played with your emotions and stuck with me longer because of how disturbing it was.
2024 is way more forgettable sorry
They completely ruined the original and dumbed it down for Americans. But McAvoy was amazing as usual. I was so dissapointed
Yep 👍🏻
I like that the victims win in the remake mate
I much prefer the original, it truly shocked me at points.
Yeah same!
The 2024 Hollywood Turd 💩remake ruined the OG "Speak No Evil" 2022 European horror masterpiece
By CHANGING THE ENDING from a sad yet powerfully horrifying ending into a happy REETURD 💩 ending
Which removed the genuine horror and intended cautionary tale of the real "Speak No Evil" movie
Blumhouse just made a GARBAGE fradulent remake movie
We should save cinema from Hollywood!
If you see the remake and you think man they really did a lot of dumb shit in this movie the original will make your blood boil lol.
2 years?
Good Execution + Good Acting vs. Just Good Acting
I had more simpathy for the original couple, I wanted them to survive. The original father was too nice and a little dumb.
Now, I wouldn't mind if the remake couple had died, and I was so angry at the remake father because he was such a coward leaving the traumatized boy to do what had to be done at the end.
During the whole movie he was not being kind, he was being a pushover, the mother had to take charge and snap him out of his sorry ass state to take some action. If it wasn't for her, they would have died for sure.
The only good thing that he did was saving the boy from drowning, but still I was surprised that this guy managed to survive.
Yeah, no one in the remake family is really that likable
I didn’t see it as he left the boy to do what needed to be done to Paddy… I saw it as he didn’t want to lower himself to be like the animal that was Paddy. He thought about killing him but realised that he was better than that and he would call the police and let the law deal with him because there is some things that are redeemable in being civilised.
Watched original yesterday and can't get it off my mind- wolves and sheep- listen to your spidey sense, speak up GTF out of there--
Yeah the original is a real good one!
They were both awesome. But I personally liked the original more because it was more unnerving and scary.
Yeah that's why I preferred the original
2024, easily. It will be far more rewatchable because it's more relaxing and humourful in places to watch and the turn in to horror is more interestingly done, despite 2022 being more gruesome. The 2022 movie is more simple and makes little sense in places. Why was the building with the evidence of murder so easily accessible and OPEN? Does he really see the boy, drowned? If so, why doesn't he tell his wife? Why don't they run for their lives instead of stripping? Why is the girl so immediately compliant at the end as if just to neatly fit in with the movie title?
Wont even watch the remake. No reason for it to exist other than a cash grab
It's got a different ending so i'd say it's worth a watch for that
Easily the original is miles better!
Yeah I preferred the original!
Didn’t like the ending In the 2024 release
Yeah I preferred the original ending
So the remake is watered down
Yeah just got a different approach
Thats an American ending, lol.
The original is better.
The original is far superior. The remake is toothless
Original is definitely better!
The original is the better version. It was deeply sad, tragic and disturbing. True horror.
Yeah it really is!
The original was annoying as hell.
The remake wasn't that good.
I thought it was good, it was just the ending that didn't seem as hood
movie is scary for folks that cant protect them selves....NEXT!
Purpose of the original is lost on the remake . As the original have an anti- WOKE ending . Basically “ you lose all if you are WOKE”.
This was a horrible movie I just saw it Friday