The Problem with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Anomaly

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  • @Node8
    @Node8 ปีที่แล้ว +1031

    Nothing will prepare us for the amount of “this is nothing like anomaly” comments that will be said when Stalker 2 comes out

    • @sprypry
      @sprypry ปีที่แล้ว +196

      "Omg guys, in the new "come to me" trailer the corpse Skif looted didn't have 5 misc items! This is nothing like Anomaly!"

    • @tangoechobravo806
      @tangoechobravo806 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      I've seen more complaints and bitching from gatekeepers about the S2 videos not being like blank or like "how this isn't Stalker,this is call of duty filth" more than anyone else.

    • @itsTysta
      @itsTysta ปีที่แล้ว +85

      I just hope we won't have to hear any 'this feels nothing like the original games'.
      It really needs to be a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Game, and not just a ripoff soiling the name!!

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I know right ? I fear for that moment
      In fact, I've already seen so many Anomaly comments and a comment about "Anomaly 2"

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +66

      We will be ready.

  • @imjustsomeguy5048
    @imjustsomeguy5048 ปีที่แล้ว +469

    Stalker is unfortunately in a bit of a weird position as a franchise: while all the three maintain some of the core elements of gameplay, they go in different directions in regard to story and world building. Add to this the vague nature of the Zone, easy access to modding tools, GSC almost disappearing for a decade and you have what we have now: everybody has their own personal idea of what Stalker should be like.
    Personally I just hope Stalker 2 will be at least as good as the original, but I'm worried about those pre-order dlc I saw: I don't want to play a modern videogame, I want to experience the Zone, damnit!

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yea, I would tolerate it a bit more of those bonuses if it was just season pass for 2 story DLC and that's it.
      Multiplayer of the original trilogy wasn't the strong suit *at all* and CO:OP was confirmed to not be coming according to Grigorovich in some magazine interview.

    • @hansknickerbocker9202
      @hansknickerbocker9202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed.

    • @blooocki
      @blooocki ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ChainikVlad I heard the 2 stories might be about Yantar and Limansk
      Wich might also be the reason we might not be able to visit those two areas at release. Having a spatial anomaly cut those areas off.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yes, weird is the word.

    • @dmin5782
      @dmin5782 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@blooocki Yes, the leaks apparently said so. But Yantar is a bit different.
      Most likely there will be a DLC questline in Yantar, but the area is probably gonna still be accessible in the main game

  • @GhenTuongHB
    @GhenTuongHB ปีที่แล้ว +647

    I'm an anomaly modder. I've been around the anomaly community for a long time and know their attitude toward stalker 2. The boys have already decided that they will love the game no matter what, before it was even officially announced. If it's great, we will enjoy it. If it's bad, we will fix ourselves. Just like old time.
    I think the core fans very tolerate stalker 2. We expect it to be similar to the the trilogy. Sadly some young fans think different. I try to convince them to try out the trilogy every time I have a chance.

    • @rivermintofficial
      @rivermintofficial ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Thank you for your work.

    • @soup8249
      @soup8249 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Problem i have with playing the trilogy is they play like games from the 00's.
      I played SoC when it came out and loved it, and its only cos of that i bothered with Anomaly, and then EFP

    • @RiftWalker111
      @RiftWalker111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey i know you, thanks for updating your mods

    • @lennic
      @lennic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly my dude

    • @thebulletkin8393
      @thebulletkin8393 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I first found out about the franchise through Drewski's anomaly videos, as did many others, but I've found myself more infatuated by the world itself than just the gameplay. The world felt like it was a place that didn't want you there, the idea of emissions being events that are caused by the almost sentient mind of the zone itself wishing to cleanse itself of the very people trying to destroy it is just so interesting.
      Stick me in a game where I can explore that more and I'd dig it, as such I've been playing through the originals and I'm having a blast. Sure the gameplay of anomaly can be considered a bit more refined with a modern touch, but I don't want insane realism for the sake of realism, or a super ultra giga hardcore game, so the differences between soc and anomaly do not deter me. SOC so far has been a joy to play, I look forward to experiencing what stalker 2 will do to expand the universe even more.

  • @adreadnought56
    @adreadnought56 ปีที่แล้ว +874

    Imagine creating a mod so successful that it casts a shadow over the entirety of the games which it was based on and actually comes full circle to become harmful to the series. That’s gotta be the most bittersweet feeling to the Anomaly creators ever.

    • @samithonjames370
      @samithonjames370 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I mean that says more about the games than it does anomaly tbh.

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      ​@@zars1324thats is outright wrong, i remember BF3, it was a buggy mess but people got into it because it was unique(at the time), ARMA games are still a physics bullshit fest but you have houndreds of unique communities gathering up to play some ops, and those are few very mainstream examples

    • @yeeto1
      @yeeto1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@zars1324 considering that alot of triple A game company's games come out unfinished and buggy. Id say most people go for unique over polished. Tarkov is another good example

    • @Downs4
      @Downs4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Can you please explain why it's bad?
      I have never played stalker except for Anomaly: EFP

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@zars1324 "jank" is what you mean, and ofc is valid, but what really makes gamma stand out is the outreach it got through creators, remember that day some known youtuber made a video about it and moddb crashed for hours. Its all about that the yourger ones might even think this is the actual game and a free alternative to tarkov(because obviously some people get attracted because of it), its not really about choice rather than knowledge of its existance, ease of acquirement and price

  • @LoneHermit
    @LoneHermit ปีที่แล้ว +40

    To be completely honest, I have played all 3 games before. And now I just switched off to Anomaly, and the only reason for that is because the storyline for Anomaly is optional and you can explore the Zone as your own story.
    I don't see Anomaly or Gamma as mainly how Stalker is suppose to be, yes it's gameplay is amazing. Originating from Call of Pripyat's mechanics. But if there was ever a true essential to the Stalker experience, it's the first 3 official games. This way you can experience the official experience even if it is greatly difficult, but it is very worth it. I only see Anomaly as a mod where I can just freely play in the Zone instead of following a specific storyline, it's not necessary that I have to turn on Story Mode or go to the leader of my faction to find Strelok, stop Sin, or find out some random problem's with Sidorovich's radio. It's just the freedom of all Stalker players to be in the Zone and make their own path. It's no baseline of how Stalker is, it's just a choice if you wanna keep playing Stalker or not.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alright, nice.

    • @DiplomatOfDirt
      @DiplomatOfDirt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anomalousdugout9557 has anybody told you that you act like a homosexual?

  • @de1dman
    @de1dman ปีที่แล้ว +235

    I have played all of the stalker games, Its so sad to see new people to stalker just playing stalker anomaly

    • @Wunderwolf
      @Wunderwolf ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Its also sad that people won't play other mods like oblivion lost remake(one of my favorites)

    • @Grandmaster-Kush
      @Grandmaster-Kush ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Yes, this "ULTRA MEGA REALISTIC HARDCORE TACTICOOL FOOD HUNGER THIRST RPG" like Tarkov, ARMA, Dayz etc has taken over STALKER, the three STALKER games are great story and gameplay but now people only want Anomaly.

    • @de1dman
      @de1dman ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah.. everyone uses tacticool mods.

    • @ritualceremony
      @ritualceremony ปีที่แล้ว +27

      fr, i just want to see how many newgens will be dissapointed at stalker 2 because its not gonna be anomaly 2

    • @imransyakirin1683
      @imransyakirin1683 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i dont know man, yes true the story is great and all but i just cant i cant play old graphics janky game (no offense) but i do watch the lore on youtube and i know stalker 2 wont be like anomaly

  • @kkarhiiv95
    @kkarhiiv95 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    YES, FINALLY SOMEONE ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE! I actually abandoned many stalker related groups on social media, because the shitstorm was too much to handle.

  • @sugma3475
    @sugma3475 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Certain TH-camrs have pushed “Woahh this new game is like Tarkov with mutants!” type of videos about Anomaly and I blame them for bringing in the uninitiated

  • @jackcactus5057
    @jackcactus5057 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    As much as I love some tactile, high-risk gunplay, I think the rise of tacticool culture of "hardcore realistic shooters" have tarnished the true beauty of STALKER and the Zone. For as janky as the vanilla games are, the atmosphere is never lost on me whereas in Anomaly, seeing gameplay where the player whips out their fully customized Zenitco AK-74 just makes it feel like Anomaly has turned into a pseudo-flexing session rather than living in an ever-changing ecosystem where you can never expect what will happen on a wide scale tomorrow. I really don't want to blame Operator Drewski for this but I feel like his Anomaly series have distracted newcomers from what the true beauty and horror of the Zone is.

    • @imalittletoxicjustalittle
      @imalittletoxicjustalittle ปีที่แล้ว

      man elitist like you just make me want to never play the game again, how do upgraded and better weapons take away from anything? the original game having no guns was due to cost and time. anomaly is objectively the most atmospheric the idea your even trying to say the old games are better in this regard is laughable at best it has EVERYTHING the old zones have with better effects
      most people like me wouldn't even be playing stalker if it wasn't for anomaly its were many of us started and after playing the others anomaly is objectively the better game and achieves everything the original devs wanted and them some, some of the old devs even worked on anomaly ffs

    • @epicboukas7354
      @epicboukas7354 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you know any modpacks that might make the Focal point of the mod that eerie Terriyfying Atmosphere or even improve it? That is my favorite part of Shadow of Chernobyl

    • @elmarm.5224
      @elmarm.5224 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is somethi g that irked me, although the bringing of outside forces brings of course newer and more professional weapons one can loot. One never know how long a player tried to put together that weapon.

    • @Ickarichi
      @Ickarichi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@epicboukas7354Not SoC but Call of Pripyat has a mod called Misery, the version prior to the current one gives such a heavy atmosphere, even more so then the base game imo, he speaks about it in the video.

    • @Stranger21300
      @Stranger21300 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very valid opinion, Good job stalker.

  • @drkongo2139
    @drkongo2139 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    The Stalker series has always been a part of my childhood. The gameplay I watched as a child gave such weird and unique feelings that I sadly won't feel ever again. Playing all of the games as time went, it all felt complete in my heart. I really hope that the story and its elements for all of us who give care to the original trilogy, carry to Stalker 2

    • @Turfut730
      @Turfut730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here, fingers crossed

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same right here, i knew about the games from watching Life Of Boris since i was a kid lol

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Time will tell.

  • @spontanapa
    @spontanapa ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love Anomaly and played Gamma (busy-hands simulator is suffering from mod dev narcissism)
    If I introduce anyone to stalker it will ALWAYS be vanilla SoC, master, no crosshair

    • @cadrian4806
      @cadrian4806 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Is there something going on with Gamma? ive only played about 4 or 5 hours of it because i was already bored by anomaly by the time i played and it didnt do much to change things

    • @fuzzo4475
      @fuzzo4475 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@cadrian4806 Grok (the guy that compiled gamma) is hugely narcissistic and full of himself because he thinks he created the best mod ever. He has a huge victim complex and thinks any addon that mentions gamma that's downvoted on MODDB is a personal attack on him, it's almost as if he thinks the whole stalker community revolves around him and his modpack. This is including the fact that he's profiting off of other people's hard work via his Patreon.
      It's just a shitty situation all-round.

    • @ViroRads
      @ViroRads ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@fuzzo4475 Having watched him throw his tantrums on ModDB convinced me not to download his modpack, not that I wanted to download that garbage before, dude just artificially extends the gameplay adding a ton of "realistic survival elements" into it.

    • @neophyte1994
      @neophyte1994 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fuzzo4475 excuse me but do you have any idea the amount of work he puts into this completely for free? Every single day he's working and updating the pack, I check the updates multiple times a day every day and there's constantly new updates. He even changed the name of the pack to not have is own name in it because people are crying he's taking glory for himself.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why master ? The whole Master difficulty thing is literally a troll, placebo or gaslighting thing

  • @haider5044
    @haider5044 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Lol I started with Lost Alpha DC 1.05, loved it, bought the trilogy, burned through it. Anomaly is great gameplaywise, but for reasons I don't know, it can never replicate the atmosphere of either the original games or more lore/story focused games.
    Maybe because it went from being a soulful sci-fi focused horror FPS to a re-textured misery lite survival shooter.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah i agree, the original games felt unique and different
      It's not some Lidl brand Tarkov survival shooter, but rather sci-fi focused FPS with light RPG style progression (getting better equipment while facing more dangerous enemies) and having an interesting world to explore (all the while having PS2 style graphics lol)

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah I guess that's why.

    • @haider5044
      @haider5044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OperatorMax1993 Hahaha, "lidl brand tarkov" I'm stealing that one!
      I think this shows how gameplay and narrative/atmosphere are so much more intertwined than you'd first think. You would theoretically imagine more stuff to do, more mechanics and items is a great thing.
      At least that's what I thought when I revved up GAMMA, and it's great. But it's not in the same register as Shadow of Chernobyl (even enhanced with vanilla + mods). Maybe it's a simple case of too much focus on gameplay and not remotely enough on lore/worldbuilding (they could've added characters, cinematics etc...) (theory 1?).
      Maybe even if they did that, adding gameplay mechanics takes away from lore/narrative anyhow (theory 2).
      I don't know man, I'm just a S.T.A.L.K.E.R

    • @tcmx2323
      @tcmx2323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      World scaling and graphics looks odd in Anomaly when compared to old school mods like AA2. Idk why graphics are so consistent and appealing in SoC... Might be nostalgia...

  • @panzermensch4136
    @panzermensch4136 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I literally found you about 2-3 hours ago and was watching your Iceberg series, and now you post a video about the game that brought me into the Stalker Universe.
    Thank you!

  • @Akula111
    @Akula111 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    imo most recent Anomaly fans don't actually want STALKER, they want EFT but without the PVP aspect

  • @austindecaux7895
    @austindecaux7895 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Bravo! I totally agree c:
    You really put words to a lot of my complex feelings surrounding the community, I have seen exactly what you described with anomaly enjoyers going absolutely crazy on some subreddits demanding that stalker 2 is exactly like anomaly just with good graphics.
    I played SoC when it first came out, and have played stalker my whole life since, so I have a lot of skin in the game. However, I %100 agree with your views again, stalker 2 should be something brilliant and original that stands on it's own. It has been a decade after all.

    • @tamfuwing1
      @tamfuwing1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GSC will presumably do their own thing. Fans have stayed loyal to STALKER in various ways but none of us have the right to dictate what GSC should or shouldn't do. That would be absurd.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright thanks.

  • @MECHENY935
    @MECHENY935 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    R/S.T.A.L.K.E.R/ aren't gonna like this video LMAO, anyway, nice video man.

    • @monolitwoods
      @monolitwoods ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ah it's based schizo strelok

    • @Jelkitosix666
      @Jelkitosix666 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      they will say its gatekeeping, in their fashion

    • @RanDoom_Guy21
      @RanDoom_Guy21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      R/stalker try not to say that freedomers fuck bloodsuckers and dutiers die to dogs at rostok because they saw it in anomaly challenge

    • @samithonjames370
      @samithonjames370 ปีที่แล้ว

      R stalker is filled with you idiots, it's the other way around.

    • @smpleBH
      @smpleBH ปีที่แล้ว

      The brainwashed reddit troops will try to assassinate our leader of stalker lore. Gotta make fake grave in the Pripyat

  • @Rojek-ls3dl
    @Rojek-ls3dl ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I like how Anomaly lets us freeplay on the whole zone just enjoy your everyday life of a Stalker. You can spend hours just enjoying hunting artefact looking and area exploring with some fetch quest missions

    • @MordredSimp
      @MordredSimp ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's so much fun. Just walking around dealing with Dangerous Anomalies, Shooting Mutants, Anarchists and Bandits alike. Then sitting at a campfire to clean my rifle while some Ivan plays his Guitar. It's great, and that's what the Mod is. It's not TARKOV, it's more properly called. "Day in the life of a Stalker" but Anomaly is a cooler name.
      Note I've only played "Vanilla" Anomaly, that's all I wanted, a Free Stalker Experience I can enjoy and be immersed in

  • @Rammaken
    @Rammaken ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Dude, I totally agree with you.
    This issue is at the point that I have meet random people in real life that at first they told me "I love stalker!" and when I ask which stalker game is their favorite, they just tell me that they have only played Anomaly.
    It's feels incredibly disappointing since it's not something that happens all the time.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah I felt like it was time to publish this video.

    • @paulusdergelehrte6167
      @paulusdergelehrte6167 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      while i feel you, you have to recognize not everybody is old enough for being able to enjoy these old games it just has been to long and u cant ask a kid whos first game was Skyrim to play stalker and enjoy it. sure im overexaggerating but i hope you get the idea.
      And still i rather have 20.000 people being enganged in the stalker franchise by anomaly then just 20 by the original games u know?
      because in the end of the day stalker is more then just the games and it has potential to be even much more but it wont be albe to grow if people are gatekeeping the franchise in saying shit like "ure not a true stalker if u didnt play the original trillogy" and thats just sad and wrong
      and please dont get me wrong everyone not playing the original three games is missing out so hard but u know what? its their decision and if they want to miss out fkin let them

    • @nikolasferreira3247
      @nikolasferreira3247 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​​@@paulusdergelehrte6167ut that's the problem as well. It introduced people to the series but they only play anomaly and they don't play anomaly for the reasons why so many people love the originals. They just want to play a "hardcore realistic shooter", they don't really care about the series and to make matters worse, they will have the wrong expectations for the new game.

    • @paulusdergelehrte6167
      @paulusdergelehrte6167 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@nikolasferreira3247 and whats so wrong about that? They want a realistic hardcore shooter and found it in anomaly dispite not playing the originals but i dont concider this a bad thing and if stalker 2 isnt what they expect thats their problem and their problem alone :D like why do u care so deeply about some randy playin anomaly???
      P.S.: and to be honest i dont see a problem here what so ever just an other boomer tryin to gatekeep a franchise

    • @shadedergu9921
      @shadedergu9921 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is basically like Persona 5 fans in the Persona and SMT community
      "I love SMT"
      "Which have you played?"
      "I have only watched a playthrough of 5"

  • @bazooka93
    @bazooka93 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "This stream will always be better than watching a fucking furry play GAMMA, we are actually funny SOMETIMES" - Strelok when playing OLR2.5. As long as we can't fight the generation change, it's normal that the children will rebel against their parents. I may be the Stalker fan raised on 2002 trailers but we can't stop the change. We won't make the next generation excited about builds and OLR or at least (sigh) Lost Alpha. Also, we won't attract many non-Central/Eastern European fanbase to Stalker with the charming jank, and frankly, that how our brave GSC boys and girls are getting their salaries. Regarding that, a lot of non-anomaly mods which would be worth looking at are either only in Russian, a language I learned mostly through playing Stalker, or very poorly translated and not fully compatible with versions of the game not released in CSI (gamedata differences that probably stem from cyryllic encoding). Sure it's crap watching the series being tarkovised but I find it better than being totally forgotten because Ivan cannot into English and because Kany is a twat.

  • @StrLab
    @StrLab ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I agree with you. My problem with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mods is that they try to be "realistic/hardcore", they create a lot of things for realism sake like slow healing, low life, batteries for the flashlight, cooking recipes, magazines (!) and many "realistic" things to make the game more immersive I guess. For me they achieve the opposite. They become tedious with a lot of micro-managment and so many details that break me out of the immersion. If I wanted a life simulator I would be playing Sims. (or DayZ, where those details actual matter, as multiplayer game)
    The first S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is a lot more simple and a lot more immersive. Because immersion comes from the world and no from things like animations of eating.
    These mods tend to fill the inventory with so many crap that the players are getting used to. Remember reading the comments of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 gameplay video, a user timestamped the inventory of the game and wrote "inventory is too empty hire some modders of Anomaly to create things to fill it" or something like that! Why do I need my inventory being full of useless crap instead of just ammo, medkits, weapons, food, anti-rad drugs, few but useful things?
    Too bad if some players would not enjoy S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 because it is not like Anomaly or other mods, as you say we need to remember those mods are fan-made and the sequel is not obliged to follow them, nor it would be a bad game if it differs from them (the opposite for me, I plefer S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 be like S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl).

  • @CornPops871
    @CornPops871 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I agree completely. The bells and whistles of Anomaly are nice, but the mod can't compare to the substance of the original trilogy.

    • @GeoffSayre
      @GeoffSayre ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I would say Anomaly is all bells and whistles, and no real substance. Which is why I play it: just to have a fancy time in the Zone between series replays.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes.

    • @StrengthScholar0
      @StrengthScholar0 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Have you ever thought that you can keep all the bells and whistles of anomaly while inserting the mission structure and substance of the original trilogy?
      You guys act like you have to choose one or the other. The best qualities of anomaly and the original stalker trilogy can be implemented in the sequel.
      Hell, even the difficulty and hardcore aspects could both be in the sequel. All they would have to do is separate them between a normal mode that stays more true to the original trilogy and a survival mode that adds the hardcore aspects of anomaly.

  • @monolitwoods
    @monolitwoods ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Glad you made this, it was needing to be covered. As much as I love anomaly for the addons that have been made for it, I detest seem features like crafting, the survival, nerfed artifacts and meds etc (which means installing 20+ addons to reduce it all). The freeplay is good but gets old quickly especially with the same old quests from CoC made by Dr.X(RIP), warfare also gets repetitive. It is quite annoying that other mods that release get slept on because all the community medias are just filled with either GAMMA or Tarkov'esk tacticool spin-offs. In the end its more of a enhancement to MISERY than the originals. But thankfully addons like Old world or Dark signal try to bring it back to a more Vanilla image.

    • @tamfuwing1
      @tamfuwing1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I love the crafting. It made the Zone even more of a place you have to work hard to succeed in. Different strokes for different folks.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah me too, i hate that Anomaly is put on the pedestal all the while sleeping on mods like Oblivion Lost Remake or others and thank God that Old World and Dark Signal exist

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@tamfuwing1 either way, it adds to the bloated inventory issues
      For me, I'm kinda in the middle... There are somethings that bother me like for example why do you need Vinca to make a bandage ? Can't you use any type of vodka instead ? (I hope they change that for 1.6)

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think it was right to do it.

    • @kendicus7640
      @kendicus7640 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Crafting and gun parts repairing seems like a feature poorly implemented into the game through unengaging UI and game limitation and poor introduction to the player (the fact that crafting was not a part of the original trilogy can make it even harder to take in) even then gun repairs feature becomes pretty irrelevant due to the existence of mechanic NPCs which will save you time (and quite possible money). Procedural quests gets dull and bland fairly quickly since its the same thing over and over and the quest giver usually requires you to walk around the entire zone (Same goes for the Anomaly's story quest)

  • @djpendellmusic
    @djpendellmusic ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a new stalker fan. (I just got my first gaming pc a few weeks ago) I am making myself play through the original 3 stalker games before diving deep into Anomaly. I want to experience the game how it was meant to be played and experience the lore and story that the devs created, and then move on to enjoy almost a different “gamemode” within the same universe. From what I’ve seen so far is that new players see anomaly as an updated version of the originals but it really is just a completely different gamemode

    • @Krahamus
      @Krahamus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least you have some logic compared to most anomaly/gamma worshippers, yes anomaly/gamma is like the sub branch of stalker which has nothing to do with the original trilogy, the trilogy is about casual play, with light rpg mechanics, more story driven game instead of sandbox game, actually i would recommend after completing trilogy to try other standalone mods besides anomaly/Gamma whom are more narrative driven

    • @djpendellmusic
      @djpendellmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Krahamus what are some mods you would recommend? I’ll make sure to try some of those out sometime

    • @Krahamus
      @Krahamus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@djpendellmusic Stalker lost alpha, stalker oblivion lost remake, stalker goldsphere, these mods are one of the best besides anomaly/gamma

    • @ryon5174
      @ryon5174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@djpendellmusiclost alpha most definitely you should try out after Shadow of Chernobyl

    • @OXY187
      @OXY187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djpendellmusicGoldensphere, Wind of Time, Trapped (has a different russian name), OGSR, these mods are my favorites, also the ones that others stated above. There are endless supplies of story mods out there available.

  • @zlostnypopolnik
    @zlostnypopolnik ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I have always seen STALKER games (mainly STALKER SOC) as a mysterious horror sci-fi thriller, its atmosphere reminds me of the atmosphere of the movie Stalker from 1979, which is one of my favorite movies. I didn't have this feeling when I played Anomaly, to me it was just an FPS shooter with incredibly annoying micromanagement of things. So far there is only one mod that brought me back to the mysterious horror world of Zone and that is LostAlpha + STALKER Lost Alpha: Revisited.

    • @jonathanrabcewicz6191
      @jonathanrabcewicz6191 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I honestly couldnt agree more. All I want another huge mod like that or Oblivion Lost. Spatial Anomaly is also fantastic but a bit short.
      Also since you love the Stalker movie did you catch the reference made by Guide to that movie in Lost Alpha?

    • @zlostnypopolnik
      @zlostnypopolnik ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathanrabcewicz6191 I'll tell you the truth, I don't remember. If there was a reference to the movie, I probably noticed it. Speaking of the movie, there is a mod that shows parts of it in a TV in LA.

    • @rivermintofficial
      @rivermintofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Im fan of Lost Alpha. Im curious about Oblivion Lost. These mods are like window to ideas what could have been. Interesting.

    • @blooocki
      @blooocki ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OGSR is also really nice.
      It is pretty much Shadow of Chernobyl tho, but remade in the 64bit xray engine with cut content, cut quests and user made dlc that imo perfectly fits into the world of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

    • @zlostnypopolnik
      @zlostnypopolnik ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blooocki I tried it sometime ago, now I found OGSR Mod RePack from SeregA-Lus with English Patch from 2021, let's see what it does.
      I have to note one thing, out of the movies, books and games, only one game, LostAlpha, has caused me health problems.

  • @SurikatMeerkat
    @SurikatMeerkat ปีที่แล้ว +23

    All I want is for GSC to create a sequel to their product in their own way. It is their IP and they can do with it whatever they want to. I mean we know GSC loves this IP and we know they love the community, look at how much they've given us, shared with us and how they go about building on S2.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hopefully the future will deliver.

    • @SurikatMeerkat
      @SurikatMeerkat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anomalousdugout9557 Whatever they deliver will be good. We have to keep our perspective real as you mention in the video. GSC may deliver something a little jank, broken but we know the world and immersion will be top tier. And with time S2 will only get better. Considering it's on UE that also mean potential for mods. I just want more SHOC or COP. And they have perfected that recipe.

  • @milital6611
    @milital6611 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ive personally considered anomaly to be an insult to the the stalker franchise for a long time now, not because of the game itself, but because of the effect it had with the community, newer people who get introduced into stalker are almost instantly introduced to anomaly, and often play it without even finishing the original trilogy, causing false expectations about the original games with a sense of anomaly being superior, which is not true by a longshot, of course people can have different opinions on different things, but when put side by side for comparison, anomaly is generally more bland than the original trilogy, even requiring modifications boost the experience which many people install, making their expectasions about the original trilogy even more false (personal side note, if a game needs modifications to become more interesting and fun, maybe its not a very good game, assuming it wasn't crafted specifically to be a sandbox and meant to be heavily modified)
    the community, when it comes to anomaly plays a giant role, im pretty sure we've all seen those click-bait youtube videos advertising highly modified anomaly gameplay, branding it to be free and better than most new AAA games, causing newer players to get introduced in the community, with false expectations of stalker, thinking its EFT but for crappy computers, instead of a beautiful game with interesting lore
    memes also go around about people telling newbies to skip the original trilogy and hop straight into anomaly, this may sound like somthing that had happened once or twice and then people making fun of it, but considering just how insufferable the stalker community is (especially the hardcore fans) this may not be as uncommon as it sounds
    stalker anomaly drives players away from the beauty of the original games, allowing players to modify the game in their own personalized way to the point where it even becomes a delusion as a standart/base expectation for every time they think about "stalker" i would also like to point out that the original GSC (the one that went bankrupt at 2011) does not approve of anomaly at all (my sources are insignificant as it is just hear-say, but ive heard it so many times that i myself am starting to believe it might hold some truth) and seeing how people would prefer playing a rip off of a franchise that that was carefully crafted instead of the original and say that its superior just doesn't sit right with me
    this may sound like a bunch of schizo-rambling, but it's just what i have piled up from experience with the games and community, you may find it to be entirely false, but you can't exactly deny that it holds some truth to it either, and because i just made such bald claims, i would also appreciate if you guys wouldn't insult me in the comments

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I see. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

    • @milital6611
      @milital6611 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@anomalousdugout9557 i honestly have to say that i adore how you managed to make a video on such a hot topic, and kept it all proffessional and polite, please keep it up

    • @ambustio9807
      @ambustio9807 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen

  • @KreigWes
    @KreigWes ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Only played the first three unmodded.
    But the only people I meet only know of anomaly and it’s kind of sad.

  • @bedrylo3529
    @bedrylo3529 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    the problem of stalker moding today is that 80% of mods are some realism related bullshit as if im not playing stalker but a fucking tarkov game, stalker is not about all this

    • @Masterbeit-hq2mt
      @Masterbeit-hq2mt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Crafting system and low respawning are the 2 things make me one to keep it with coc

  • @kryhun7906
    @kryhun7906 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Gamma Babies already crying Stalker 2 will be shaite, because it won't have 200 weapons from 3 different mods

  • @thecommentingt34
    @thecommentingt34 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I SWEAR I knew this was next. I just KNEW it!
    I also laid off Anomaly, I carried on to Battlefield 1 lately,I got Anomaly again,JUST to play the G.A.M.M.A modpack,I used to love it as you know,now it is just a good S.T.A.L.K.E.R. mod that I will now just play it for fun.

    • @matking898SVK
      @matking898SVK ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sameee

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, Gamma is made by a narcissist who has a victim mindset and profits off of people's hard work

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try to figure out which topic is next then :)

    • @arbo-u2b
      @arbo-u2b ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OperatorMax1993 you seem to have a real problem with grok calm down you have commented this multiple times

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arbo-u2b i mean, only some people speak of what's going on with grok

  • @googlaccount9414
    @googlaccount9414 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The more I played Anomaly/GAMMA etc. the clearer it became that it's quite simply a love letter to Escape from Tarkov, with all the things Tarkov is missing, which Stalker had.
    Which I adored as I couldn't run Tarkov on my rig and have always appreciated The Zone.
    The issue that people may not be seeing around is; *Modders can rip other games off as much as they want, GsC have to make a Stalker game.*

  • @humanandhalf4118
    @humanandhalf4118 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's similar to the situation with Brutal Doom and its community, except Brutal Doom fans have racial slurs and Anomaly fans have vibrator support

  • @Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section
    @Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It puzzles me why STALKER mods like Anomaly, GAMMA & Co. are so popular.
    My fondest memories of STALKER are of part 3, because it was the most well-rounded part mechanically, because every place I visited was connected to a story, because I was only in new and larger areas, because of the fast travel system, because all the anomalies and quests were "hand-built" and because the decisions I made had an impact on the zone and on the "people" I "met" there. For example, whether I gassed the "nest" of bloodsuckers or not.
    If I wanted to dive into the zone again, I would therefore look for a game experience that offers something comparable.
    Why I should play something that's a rehash of part 1, only with more "stuff", some of which just makes the game more complicated and inaccessible instead of better, doesn't make sense to me. Even the story, from what I've heard, is supposed to be an inferior copy of part 1.
    Also, don't mods like this actually devalue what my alter ego has achieved in the previous games? After all, virtually everything is reset to a state from before STALKER 1.

  • @aA46821
    @aA46821 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I was not carried away by Anomaly, because he does not have a single and holistic concept, he tries to be everything at once and please a very large number of players even outside the Stalker fan base. For myself, I find a more attractive, holistic and atmospheric mod from the CoC - Dead Air branch, while not letting it replace the original trilogy for myself.

    • @kryhun7906
      @kryhun7906 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Dead Air? More like DEAD MOD AMARITE?
      But honestly, Dead Air is my favourite misery variant, because it does things... differently, atmosphere was nuts and walking through toxic MAP when overweight by your air canister that's quickly running out of oxygen was incredibly unique and I loved it
      Too bad this mod development feels well... dead

    • @tehgerbil
      @tehgerbil ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly I really liked just playing CoC with various mods I installed, Weather, Nature, weapon packs, derestricting A life myself, warfare... It was such an easy package to change up as you wished. Actually, it wasn't easy at all, I had to do a load of work but I learnt and understood how to make things compatible I guess.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Alright, fair enough.

  • @antirevomag834
    @antirevomag834 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've played anomaly and swore off it due to frustrations i've had with it that, any time it's brought up to the devs, they claim it's 'not their fault' and that it was just 'how s.t.a.l.k.e.r. was. we didn't change a thing about it' yet these frustrations i've never run across in stalker no matter the difficulty.
    The biggest one is the a.i. of enemies, which, while i admit in stalker always seemed to jump between staring at the player questioning their allegiances, to xxsnipesalotxx getting quickscopes across the map. Yet in anomaly? I've not run into that. I've run into nothing but a.i. that seems to know where i am at all times and actively will hunt me down. Outright was shot by a bandit leaving cordon, from the abandoned factory before the bridge. It was the point i started questioning it, and yet. Without fail. Whenever it's brought up to the devs, they claim it's just standard stalker a.i. and i am just not believing it after over a decade of playing stalker modded and unmodded, that the only time this has happened is playing anomaly, and yet the a.i. is 'unchanged'.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not being a modder I can't say for sure, but I understand your point.

  • @fabiospasiano9885
    @fabiospasiano9885 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As an Anomaly player, I cannot agree more! Nice video, Stalker! I do admit I probably won’t like the OG series as much as I would without starting with Anomaly, but I’m still glad to have been introduced to the community by it.

  • @CabalCorporation
    @CabalCorporation ปีที่แล้ว +23

    For me, Anomaly and other unifying mods (as in combining every map, faction and character from the original trilogy) have been the crowning achievement of skills and love for the games, not just from the fans, but from the creators as well.
    That said, I was only active in the community during the release of the original games and interact mostly with the veterans from that era afterwards. When I meet someone, who didn't touch the series, I always direct them to the released games first.
    I always consider Anomaly as the "free roam" mode or just a platform for other mods and never really tried its story mode. Perhaps I should, but then again it's not cannon, so I don't care that much. I already did my share reading some fanfics in the Stalker universe. However, the game itself allows me to play as Monolith or Sin, so that's always a plus for me.
    Recently I've came back to Shadow of Chernobyl, and it made me realise that the game doesn't run very good on modern machines. Moreover, the mods require specific patched versions and won't run or outright crash at the start if that requirement isn't met. And you can't just select the version on either Steam or GoG, you'd need a box release or have prepared files to swap.
    That's where the ease of access - and I don't mean being available for free - of Anomaly comes into play. I know that the Call of Pripyat had good optimisation already - in comparison to previous entries - but having it run as good as it does elevates it for me. And most of the add-ons for Anomaly are still being actively worked on.
    There is also one important thing for me that the Anomaly does - it preserves the X-Ray engine. I was saddened when GSC decided to move to Unreal with Stalker 2, instead of continuing the work on the original engine. I understand the decision, but I still don't like it.
    If it comes to Stalker 2, I just hope GSC does their own work. They may include a hardcore/survival mode as an option, as that's becoming a standard for some open world games, but I hope they keep it simple and continue the tradition from the base games. After all, that was what made them great in the first place. And given the dedication of the community, there will be mods for everyone in due time. Even for the tarkards.

    • @Doc_Fun
      @Doc_Fun 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is my big issue with the old games too - they were always unstable at the best of times but now, on modern hardware, they're getting to the point of unplayable. Say what you want about Anomaly but at least the updated engine is stable. If somebody wants to port the old games to the more modern engine, I'd back that project in a heartbeat.

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I tell you the truth. I played original series many times since it came out first Stalker. The best one I think is Shadow of Chernobyl with no doubt. For extraordinary gamplay experience. I immerse instantly with the game since then. Instantly become my one of favourite games since I try the game for the first time. No other games blew my mind that much since Half Life in 1998. I like Stalker 1 for atmosphere/sound design (from the past System Shock 2 had good one as well ), rpg and horror elements, loneliness and tense world which addicts even more if you come from Slavic countries. On the other hand modding gives longevity to te original titles, but mods are always going sidways from original concept to meet so many individual visions of the gameplay. There are no improvements, but each mod provide somethig different. It's all personal preference. IMHO mod Anomaly is for new Stalker players. If you are veteran and play Anomaly because you are "bored" with original masterpiece, then this speaks for itself. I personally prefer Lost Alpha and similar "expansion packs".
    It's not right to call Anomaly a mod for Stalker...technically it is made on different engine, secondly it is complete ovehaul. It would be much fair to call it a Stalker spin off. Like was Gunman Chronicles to Half Life.
    Mod is something you use the same engine, the same game assets or modify them and modify maps or build new from scratch.
    Don't forget anti radiation drugs, pistol and vodka going out of your dugout Stalker. Btw I was born in 1986 and have allergy and breathing problems. This message is straight from the Zone. Thanks for your attention, Respect from Poland.

  • @Iron_Soil
    @Iron_Soil ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i hate how anomally economy works, you gotta grind for a simple gun, you collect ton of trash you will mostly just sell, and the repair system sucks

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I understand.

    • @zaydengestures7275
      @zaydengestures7275 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are options within the game to tweak every single aspect of progression and economy, I don't understand how people complain about the stock settings when the developers gave you everything possible to customize your experience. Personally I turn the money rewards way up and the fame points for doing jobs way up, that will eliminate the grind

  • @АндрейБулкин-е3д
    @АндрейБулкин-е3д ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a hardcore old fan of stalker, who had it on DVD disks, and first started playing it, when i was going to 5th class of school. I think from trailers i feel the direction they are trying to head, keeping gameplay mechanics somwhere at level of original Call of Prypipiat. But trying to expand greatly on the whole "exploration and understanding" of the zone thing with all thouse new fancy devices and probably more unique quests in style of COP but on scales of whole SOC map. And im probably going to like it.
    Sorry newbies, no assembeling gun from shit and scrap, probably no mutant parts and hardcore economy. You could always rivet them to the game if you want, stalker modding is as powerfull as it ever been and is going to become even more so with transition to slim and sleak UE 4, altho i kinda doubght it can reach and fully replicate some of the features of Xray
    And im saying it without hate to Anomaly or Gamma, i have played and enjoyed all of them for thousands of hours, and even their more antique predecessors like COC, secret paths 2, Misery and etc.
    Currently i have returned to just COP with gunslinger and gosh do originals feel good in terms of creating the whole "some big things are about to happen in zone" feel. Wich is kinda not the point of Anomaly, Anomaly is a more "write you own story in times of calm" feel. With no real advances in tech, zone understanding, and general idea what to do with it.
    Also i am realy intrested in game which could be prequel to Clear Sky (You what? are you insane bro? you probably think.) But yes, game perharbs about very first months of zone creation, when no detectors, suits, o or realy any ways of relible understanding of zone existed. When it just begone with scientific expiditions dissapering, first stalkers seeping through cordons just out of intrest, and figuring thins out by tryal and error. Kinda like Golden Ball, Lost Alpha, Oblivion lost mods. Perhabs it can tell a story of unsecsessfull pre Strelok groups(Eg. Last Day mentined in designer documents and dialogs in game) attempting to reach heart of zone and then slowly filling ranks of monolith.

  • @TouchdownTFTD
    @TouchdownTFTD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The similiar thing has happened in the DOOM community with the popularity of Brutal DOOM mod. Many people who either have never played the original games or haven't played them in a while went back to DOOM by playing BD because everyone was talking about it. This has completely distorted how DOOM is perceived in terms of its gameplay and atmosphere. As a result DOOM Eternal is a meme-filled saturday morning cartoon and many people act as if that's what DOOM has always been.

  • @cbremer83
    @cbremer83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anomaly is a far cry from the originals. I am one of the OG players. Purchased all the originals on CD/DVD way back in the day. Still have them. I really enjoy GAMMA, but I see as it is. A very different experience in the same universe.
    For STALKER 2, I am hoping it is basically a modernized version of Call of Chernobyl. A tight semi open world game that just drips and oozes atmosphere. And just make it more modern in presentation and gameplay. But, not vastly different from the original games. I will wait for the modders to make the next Anomaly/GAMMA to expand the experience of the world. I want GSC to explain to me what is going on in the zone through an epic story.

  • @FazekasPK
    @FazekasPK ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think EfP 4.0 is actually closer to the novells.
    Random anomalies popping up in unexpected places, better mutant behaviours, better gunplay...
    It really is almost like the books.
    An unforgiving, but rewarding gameplay.
    ...but i would still recommend new players to get through the original 3.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting.

    • @szogunyasty6392
      @szogunyasty6392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      these books are fanfics

    • @FazekasPK
      @FazekasPK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@szogunyasty6392 i know.
      As is the entire game trilogie, compared to the original book and movie.
      Still i like the version of the Zone depicted in the novels.

  • @Coddykin
    @Coddykin ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love Anomaly but I totally agree with you, and in fact it's even worse than your example of starting a series from the last episode of the latest season, only playing Anomaly and basing your opinions of STALKER off of it is more like only reading someone's fan fiction because Anomaly isn't even canon. Even with people who have played the original trilogy, their time spent playing Anomaly tends to warp their memories of what the original games were really like. Anomaly's gunplay is so well polished that it makes people forget how janky the original games were.

  • @gug8588
    @gug8588 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember seeing a meme on reddit about newcomers favoring Anomaly over the og triology, and yeah that's a noticeable behavior on various sides of the internet. I wouldn't classify it as a problem, but it does get a bit annoying at times. Also regarding 8:20 , no offense to anyone who feels that way but like, Anomaly's story line technically retcons Strelok's ending in CoP ; - ;

  • @RanDoom_Guy21
    @RanDoom_Guy21 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i used to frequent the stalker subreddit a while back when every new post was [and i apologize for how i say it] literally just extremely stupid question about anomaly from new players that could have been answered by playing just one single game from the trilogy.
    tho those people have been introduced to the stalker franchise from bigger youtubers advertising it as "a free Escape from Tarkov alternative", i am in no way a veteran stalker ive been probably playing for

    • @sponge5196
      @sponge5196 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very well said, Stalker.

    • @GeoffSayre
      @GeoffSayre ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You make good points. Its frustrating to see our favorite franchise misrepresented in this way. Do you also find it confusing that people want to jump into a new franchise and start with mods? I always want to start with the original game before I touch a mod.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Don't worry, I somewhat understand your point of view.

    • @arbo-u2b
      @arbo-u2b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have always wanted to play the STALKER series and never really got around to it due to not wanting to buy it, and also some of the jank of the originals kind of deterred me. Now that I have played Anomaly substantially, I am much more interested in the world and it’s lore and will probably go back and play the originals.

  • @mkmike4903
    @mkmike4903 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree with you, I atleast played Shadow of Chernobyl before playing Anomaly and skipped Clear Sky and CoP before playing it. Anomaly spoiled me cuz of the fact I could play as Monolith, Bandits, Sin, and Mercenaries; waging my own wars and going on my own adventures. And yes, its gonna really suck for GSC cuz this mod has raised the standards bar for them so high, its gonna take a miracle for them to really wow the player.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alright, thanks.

    • @NoisieBastrdd
      @NoisieBastrdd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      not all players, some players. Exclusively players that started from Anomaly and then played STALKER vanilla. But think about this, imagine STALKER Vanilla remake in a better engine? and then you can wait a couple of years to get the mods that'll make it as hardcore as you want...

  • @soulcrysoulcry2283
    @soulcrysoulcry2283 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a veteran stalker who has put hours even days of my life playing shadow of Chernobyl, clear sky, and call of pripyat I rather injoy anomaly, only base anomaly because I full heartedly think that it was the experience I felt with shadow of Chernobyl all those years ago, I hate with anomaly that they try to take away the feeling of stalker with gamma and efp. It makes it feel like tarkov cinda, I have spent hours apon hours of time in anomaly, even completed the story line twice and am working on it as we speak a third time, but I feel like the new players should never start with anomaly, or even consider it a stalker game. It is a breath of fresh air to feel stalker like I did as a kid but as a vet, I will say this start with the trilogy so you have an appreciation for how far stalker 2 will have come, and if you do play anomaly, as a vet I don't respect you if your delusion is that efp or gamma will ever even touch the greatness that is the slavjank we know and love. But play how you want, and never let the spirit of stalker die. Ps it's also worth your while to play other mods to because anomaly yes is a better one but not the only one. Thank you.

  • @nikolasferreira3247
    @nikolasferreira3247 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I honestly don't like anomaly. It took everything that made the trilogy great and simply added overcomplicated mechanics to it. I much rather play the originals, not everything needs to be a hardcore realistic shooter.

  • @jens468
    @jens468 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amen brother, i've been saying this since anomaly released.

  • @JACloudy
    @JACloudy ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I completely agree. People should temper their expectations. STALKER 2 will probably not be at all Anomaly, GAMMA or EFP. I also miss the days when the fandom was not obnoxiously full of all the tacticool bros. If you want real tactical combat you may be better served playing ARMA.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see.

    • @Rodemu
      @Rodemu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah this whole tacticool bullcrap is cringe

  • @ElFacuPanterA
    @ElFacuPanterA ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's a weird take for me. I have friends that wasn't interested in the stalker franchise at all. But, when introduced to anomaly and the vast mods quantity they were obsessed with it. While playing asking about the lore and then after end up playing the first games like SoC and CoP. Anyways I totally understand your point in the fact that a lot of the canon lore is missed out.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว

      I see.

    • @jeremieh5009
      @jeremieh5009 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, but such cases are unfortunately rare :/ glad your friends are stalker fans though!

    • @monoglyph
      @monoglyph ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@anomalousdugout9557 I'll also echo this sentiment. I'm a GAMMA player now, but have nothing but love and respect for the original trilogy. Several of my friends who previously had no idea what the Stalker franchise even was finally started paying attention after hearing about Anomaly. It's hard for me to view Anomaly's breakout success as anything but free marketing for GSC's Stalker 2, and a massive win. The idea that Anomaly is bad for the series or the community because some people might come into the franchise with incorrect expectations seems a bit silly.

    • @ducdashot1239
      @ducdashot1239 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is exactly what happened to me and how i introduced my friend to the game. tho i didnt have a friend introduce me to the mod, i always had an interest in stalker i could just never get over the dated gameplay. once i found anomaly through a streamer i watched and tried it out i was hooked, all of a sudden anomaly wasnt enough for me and i just had to go back to the originals to see what a more cinematic take on the story was like and it didnt disappoint. anomalous dugout is 100% correct in this vid but there a lot of people who used anomaly as a sort of gateway into stalker an ended up falling in love with all the games not just the mods

  • @tamfuwing1
    @tamfuwing1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In part because I only have a bit of a potato to play games on, I constantly play older games that I either played when they were released or that are from the same era. But I can see how new players won't have an appetite for the old games. Also, some of the mods are quite difficult, as opposed to Anomaly which is more accessible and can be played at the player's own pace. Of course some settings are very difficult but they are the player's choice. Nostalgia plays a powerful role in willingness to overlook or even welcome or appreciate bugs and jankiness. Can't expect new players to feel the same. Anomaly is its own thing. I love how it lets you live and exist in Zone. It and its predecessors kept STALKER fandom alive the way fan fiction kept Star Trek alive for 20 years. There is no reason why the fan STALKER universe and the GSC STALKER universe can't exist side by side.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes of course.

    • @astalkerfreedom567
      @astalkerfreedom567 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem is
      Are the new players think Anomaly is what stalker really is when it's not
      Despite the jankiness the older games are still special

  • @XYZ-eo8um
    @XYZ-eo8um ปีที่แล้ว +9

    STALKER 2: *Comes out, but it hasn't met the expectations of die hard Anomaly fans*
    Anomaly fans: 'Fine! We'll make our own STALKER 2, with blackjack and hookers! Actually, screw the Blackjack!'
    That's how I see it...

    • @mclarenf1gtr99
      @mclarenf1gtr99 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if Stalker 2 is a masterpiece, the modding community has enough creativity and motivation to create something that they think is better. CoC is a good example. It was the best sanbox mod we had, but people wanted more, so addons were made and modpacks were created. Some people like them and some people didn't, but there is enough addons and modpacks to create your own preferable experience in CoC.

  • @jtnachos16
    @jtnachos16 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you! I end up feeling like I'm screaming into the void when I express related views, about anomaly, about overhaul mods, and about the divide they create in the community.
    Anomaly is far from the only overhaul mod that has a dedicated community of 'it's the REAL stalker' drones. Anomaly, owing to it's accessibility and drawing from starting out as an intended 'redo' of call of misery with higher standards, got more press and awareness than a lot of the others, but they are out there.
    Yes, most my recent playtime has been with Anomaly, with my own custom assortment of mods. But I don't forget that the approach to the game is fundamentally different from that of the actual games in the trilogy.
    Anomaly is, at the end of the day, akin to a intermediate game done between official games, contracted out to a third party studio. It is not the same as GSC's stalker, and has a fundamentally different list of priorities.
    The primary thing it shares with the actual games, is visual design and map layouts. The gameplay is NOTABLY different (although whether it's 'better' or not depends on opinion), and the focus of said gameplay is different.
    To boil it down, the original games have a direction. They have a specific story to tell, a specific journey. They aren't life-sims or focused on having the best/mostimmersive/mosthardcore gameplay. They are focused on atmosphere and a story.
    It's like comparing the books in a series to some seasonal tv series adaptation of the world of the books. It doesn't translate too well, and while you can still like the tv series, you have to admit it diverges a LOT from the source materiel, just by nature of being a tv series as opposed to a book.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are many others who have a similar view, but they mostly remain silent.

  • @DigitalApex
    @DigitalApex 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As someone who was introduced to STALKER only about a year ago and even read Roadside Picnic, I have put more hours into Anomaly than the original trilogy. That said, I urge the STALKER community to gatekeep as much as possible. STALKER 2 shouldn't be like Anomaly. It should retain the same core elements/mechanics that the first 3 games had.
    I used to be a massive Halo and Star Wars fan. There is nothing I hate more than to see things I like be ruined by tourists that want to change the entire hobby. Don't let the same happen to you guys.

  • @pastichiorocker
    @pastichiorocker ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still shaking my head when someone says Anomaly is the best game but doesn't want to play the originals because of jankiness en age. I'm not joking, there are people on Steam forums actually saying this. It's insane.

    • @ryon5174
      @ryon5174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And when there are threads expressing negative opinion about Anomaly, these same people flock over to that and call OP trash, lmao
      I hate these situations so much

    • @ryon5174
      @ryon5174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Grouse1999 I don’t hate anomaly and play it a lot either but people have to admit that it only shines when certain mods and QOL features are installed to actually make the game tolerable and playable

    • @ryon5174
      @ryon5174 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Grouse1999 honestly once you de-misery Anomaly, it becomes actually fun to play

  • @isaias3423
    @isaias3423 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your Critic about anomaly is exactly the same one i do... I have a discord server, and because of GAMMA, EFP and of course Anomaly it grew like crazy for some time, but grew with everyone that is not really interested with stalker.. .. Only DayZ players, ARMA 3 plaeyers, only players searching for a quick dopamine dose of survival games... The people that play only the stalker anomaly are not real Stalkers... They are part of a group of "Hype-based " players, that will play every single Stalker-Like game, without even knowing what is stalker... Only because they are "survival fans"... Is a really sad thing, because the real and long lasting community is not powered by hyped reallistic mechanics, its powered by lore, immersion and all the unique things that is owned by stalker (and copied to anomaly)... Really sad.

    • @trooperodst6880
      @trooperodst6880 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes I really hate when They turn Stalker into Tarkov and Call of Duty (side shooting) etc...

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see. Thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @VesselModStalker
    @VesselModStalker ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice, i really needed someone talking about this

  • @timokaaarp7779
    @timokaaarp7779 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unless the original devs speak out against Anomaly/Gamma we can't really.say if they are against the concept. None of the original devs expected Stalker to become what it is today, or could anticipate where it would go. They had neither the time or tech to achieve what modders have done since the O.G game launched. Stalker today is amazing, no one can argue with that. It is free, immersive and.bloody awesome - why try and take away from that?

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When asked about mods on Discord, devs have responded that they are not really fond of standalone mods. Interpret it as you like.

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I understand why you posted this video my friend. glad you did

  • @chrisl5787
    @chrisl5787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this speaks to trends within the gaming space in general. Survival mechanics and overblown "hardcore" BS have become expected in games following the success of other FU simulators like DayZ, Zomboid, Tarkov, etc.
    There's this sort of negative nostalgia effect people have with the original series as well. I remember playing it when it first came out. Compared to other games *at the time* STALKER was a difficult game. Other games like half life 2, call of duty, bioshock, halo 3, mass effect, all centered the gameplay around the player. STALKER was different in that it was conceived to do exactly the opposite with it's a-life engine (which was actually never functional in the way it was originally conceived) and the AI had x-ray vision meaning combat was quite a bit more difficult compared to other shooters which were designed primarily as power fantasies. 10 + years later, however, revisiting STALKER reveals it was not really as difficult as we thought, it was mainly just janky, and many of us who were there for it's original release were young and bad at games.
    The gloomy atmosphere of STALKER has also been way overblown by this same effect. Again, compared to other games, STALKER felt quite lonely, as there were no companion characters, no facial animations, no spoken dialogue, etc. That isolated feeling and the hostile environment were the corner stones of STALKER's atmosphere. Fast forward 10+ years, and modders have interpreted their memories of the game by doing things like desaturating the entire gameworld - even going so far as to make the inventory icons nearly black and white (looking at you, misery and autumn aurora). The OG games were NEVER this grayscale, rainy, depressing hellscape that modders seem intent to turn STALKER into. They are actually quite vibrant, with abundant green foliage and many sunny days.
    Modern gaming "sensibilities" like the mandatory crafting elements, overly complicated health systems, bloated item tables, etc. have become the status quo, so modders naturally go and import those types of systems into STALKER. And due to this it attracts more and more DayZ/PUBG/Tarkov/Darksouls players (many of whom haven't even played the original games because they literally weren't born yet) and ineviotably some percentage of those people become modders and keep pushing STALKER further towards it's ultimate demise - an "ultra hardcore realistic tacticool punch-me-in-the-balls- simulator" that they can play and brag about how they play really difficult games.

    • @F1stzz
      @F1stzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Original trilogy did have plenty of spoken dialogues, mate, otherwise - pretty much spot on 👌🏻

  • @StuGLyfe
    @StuGLyfe ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tarkov kids want to turn stalker into Tarkov, and that scares me.

    • @lmao.3661
      @lmao.3661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they're not succeeding, i don't know what's to be scared of. stalker 2 isn't trying to be tarkov either.

  • @CaptainMcRed
    @CaptainMcRed ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like STALKER Anomaly is to STALKER what Brutal Doom was to Doom, which Doom 2016 and Eternal did end up taking some inspiration from.

    • @MrEvans1
      @MrEvans1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      anomaly maybe a bit less, but the more popular gamma is literally escape from tarkov in the Zone, with some vague stalker elements.
      I enjoy playing it, but the entitled kids wanting Stalker 2 to be a clone of that are insane...

  • @TJ_SASQUATCH
    @TJ_SASQUATCH ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i was just thinking about this the other day, something along the lines of the mod getting the Brutal Doom treatment, where sure, it's all flashy and more hardcore, but it's not the true vision of the game and some people just stick to that specifically, not appreciating what the originals had

  • @reopri-lz7yw
    @reopri-lz7yw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You for covering about this. No one seemed to take note about it until now.

  • @Krashnikov
    @Krashnikov ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew you would be able to put this issue to better words than I could, keep up the good work!

    • @GeoffSayre
      @GeoffSayre ปีที่แล้ว

      I too am glad Anomalous was able to clearly sum up this topic

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, I hope your video still gets viewed as it was nice as well.

    • @Krashnikov
      @Krashnikov ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anomalousdugout9557 ah don't worry about me, you can be the hater magnet now xD

  • @smpleBH
    @smpleBH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im so happy that u mentioned Last Day 1.3 I spent a lot of time in this mod and rly loved it. Its safe to say that it is the one of the best mods and its potential even overshadowed bitcoin mining lmao

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was nice to play.

    • @smpleBH
      @smpleBH ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anomalousdugout9557 and good that Dead Air was skipped. Its better to dont talk about it. Nah im just kidding but phenomenon of glowsitck in the zone are still not quite understandable for me. Must be some Freedom influence

  • @rdg665
    @rdg665 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The obsession with Tarkov is so cringe....

  • @dankovac1609
    @dankovac1609 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you have doubts and troubles thinking about the new upcoming game... Think of it this way.
    Wishes. We all have our wishes. We want to fullfil them so desperately..
    This game formed an entire culture. In some cases, it made us who we are today.
    Some of us wish different things and are willing to fight for their wish to be fullfiled.
    Some of us will isolate and seek our own wish alone. Loners, eh?
    Some of us will come together and fight the growing cancer that in our eyes are the new players who misunderstand this franchise we so love. You could say it's our Duty to do so as fans..
    Some will come together to give the franchise the Freedom it deserves, for the developers to finally express themselves fully as they always wanted to.
    Some seek to manipulate the weak into doing what they want in petty ways. Leakers, hackers, trolls and all those Bandits.
    Some care only for themselves and their mission. Make the most hardcore milsim.. make the most painful misery survival experience.. and they will do whatever it takes to scratch that itch even if it means bullying the fans and devs into complying. Like bandits, but more focused. Ehem..mercs..ehem..
    Some just want to know the oh so secretive and deep lore and find every detail and analyze them to it's core like a Scientist.. they make the community a better place but are weak in fighting the other group's opinions.
    The average goon with no experience in the franchise will see a cool game come out.. buys it.. doesn't like it, suffers in it and leaves bad reviews. A pain in everyone's ass. Yes, they're a player. Yes, they're necessary. Yes, they give feedback. But they're corrupt goons who leave a mess everywhere they go and you can't escape them. They're like an Army of incompetence..
    Some don't have an opinion on anything but are supportive of groups who wish good to the franchise because they themselves like it. I guess they join the hype train because they want Clear Skies above the game and it's community.
    Can't forget the depressed, brainwashed, extremely hostile, non-communicable basement dwellers worshiping their PC and the games on it. They will do anything they can to trash on anything and anyone that gets close to them and messes with their Monolithic ego. And they're so...soooo numerous.. they only grow in number as more people reach the depths of the Internet exclusion zone..
    There is also those who are less known for they are forgotten and excluded from the main community but still very much exist.
    The news and media of the outside world. Competent, scientific in their methods, effective.. but ultimately
    they can hurt the franchise because the outside influence is rarely ever a good thing. (I was going for ISG)
    And of course. The ones that just want to see the world burn for it's Sins.
    Many of us have their own stories and reasons to fullfil their wish. We don't all fall into these categories.
    But Stalker, if you want to know the truth.. if you want to truly move on and answer your questions..
    You must remember.
    We don't know whether we were right or wrong. I guess we will never know. But we made it. And I guess we should be thankful for that.
    Good hunting Stalkers.

    • @kiwimastermind4063
      @kiwimastermind4063 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ah, nice
      I think everyone, myself included, has sensed some kind of "fallout new vegas" aspect to anomaly's playerbase. Buuut, frankly, its mostly an illusion, and that is how things can evolve.
      Theres many perspective of the story, all meaning well. But i think that ultimately, the only ones that are truly negative, are the ones trying to tell people what to think without seeing the need for explanation.
      On one side, people who think anomaly is the greatest stalker game period.
      And the purists who feel like anomaly is only enjoyable if you played the originals firsts and that it can only stand up because the first games lifts it up.
      Both sides are wrong, both sides account for a minority of players (unless it gets more and more dramatized)
      Thinking you understand the politics of a situation and taking it for granted is not a good things either.
      Anyway, i could explain why i feel those things, but i know people who see this probably understands already.
      (oh, and, saying you should play the other games before playing anomaly is beeing a douche, just like saying "its totally fine if you only play anomaly, buuuuuut..." is super disingenuous.
      All i'll say is: the only way (i believe) to unite the playerbase is to talk about how great each games are, not how they "steal the spotlight that they don't deserve"
      Look at fallout 3 and fallout NV. Same exact situation.
      While the NV fanbase had their fingers up theirs for a goood while, fallout 3 players didn't have the ego necessary to judge and shame NV. What ended up happening was a wave of people talking about why fallout 3 actually is a great game with its own strenght, and why it is just as important to fallout's history than NV.
      While there hasn't been a clear conclusion (there never is), it nonetheless improved the fanbase's unity and appreciation of the series' history, to a point where if fallout 5 draws some things from each game, there won't be any major rucus over it.
      Stalker fans need to understand that because something isn't official or wanted, doesn't mean it isn't part of the franchise's history and evolution.
      DMC 5 pays homage to the crappy reboot basically no one liked. Id software during the DooM 2016/Eternal period payed great importance and inspiration from both DooM 64 and 3, which were both heavily looked down upon beforehand.

  • @praporbarton3961
    @praporbarton3961 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It obviously can work both ways. I always brushed Stalker off as a "weird Ukrainian Fallout" but enjoyed hardcore FPS games, so when I saw what Anomaly had in stock for me I was onboard. If it wasn't for the mod I would've never knew how interesting and intricate the source material is, it intrigued me so much I even read the Roadside Picnic lmao

  • @user-wp1jv5nq7gTankM
    @user-wp1jv5nq7gTankM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anomalous Dugout finally got his chance to ramble about why he hates Stalker Anomaly

  • @vinnie4609
    @vinnie4609 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree, I want more custom story mods, those are the best

  • @veros9830
    @veros9830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets be honest, one thing is true; we need more great games in great settings whether it is a simpler game in a rich and compelling world/story like the retail trilogy or a mechanic rich game that you can immerse yourself in (as your own character) like in Anomaly. We may get one before the other but the important thing is to support it so we can get more Stalker games.
    Simply put; for me the free play is such an attractive factor in why I chose to play Anomaly associated modpacks (and the similar mods of years prior). Playing out my own story in my own way is far more compelling to me than following a dedicated story with relatively open play elements between. I will definitely admit that I had a strong dose of lore and world building when I first played trilogy which has allowed me to fully enjoy such a world in a free play mode while also enjoy the more cognitively engaging systems it introduces to gameplay. It is very noticeable when I watch my newcomer friends choose & play anomaly as I often find myself informing them of the lore and significance of certain segments that just look like another area to them. I don't see them enjoying the game in the same way I did and while it might not be exactly what I experienced Anomaly I can't say its wrong like you (any many others before you) have said: "newcomer... should play retail first". Not everyone needs to appreciate every detail in the same manner you and me do, some simply prefer a little less. Experiencing the stalker setting in this free (and less dense) form gives a solid basis to the S.TA.L.K.E.R universe and often (in the case of my friends) leads to questions and interest in the series as a whole. I can't apply the common phrase night & day in regards to Anomaly & the retail series because its more like dusk & day; one has more story and less compelling mechanics (to some), the other has more compelling mechanics (to some) and less story (as often is expected in free-play modus). To me you are one of the most knowledgeable players so I can understand why the experience looks like night & day to you and many others who also have deep knowledge. All of my newcomer friends are excited for the next instalment in the series and more importantly know what they have been playing is a freeplay survival mod that is much different from the core experience in the trilogy. In the new title they will be able to recognize factions/areas/equipment and a whole load more from what they have so far experienced in Anomaly and be given a bunch of context which will hopefully further develop their enjoyment of the game and create dedicated fans of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R universe. Again let us be honest, it is ok to enjoy things differently, we can just enjoy the fact there are more people enjoying the zone (whether it is someone who only scratches the surface or someone who digs deeper than the x labs to find out every detail, or even some who like to extrapolate and hypothesize about everything).
    I've watched every single video, I think this was one of the weaker ones, its a complex topic and in general all the videos are great. I would not be against content from another game series if you find another one you love as long as playlists are properly curated! Have you ever watched Shiey & Anton (Idk his channel anymore) explore the zone in real life? I loved the moment when they referred to the person they some information from as a S.T.A.K.E.R! The information was where to find the shallow point a stream so they could cross it at night! I think its very cool that term is used in the exclusion zone exploration community.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, of course you are free to enjoy things the way you like them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Also, I will not do videos on any other games.

  • @asiagroavacadro8973
    @asiagroavacadro8973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started with stalker anomaly gamma not really knowing about the stalker trilogy, though I'll definitely be playing it before I play stalker 2. I hope the devs make stalker 2 how they want to make it and don't feel pressure to make something they're not even passionate about. Right now I'm an anomaly fan but I hope to become a stalker fan too once I could afford the games

    • @ryon5174
      @ryon5174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The game’s usually go on sale as a pack both on Steam and Fanatical, not sure rn tho, but if you can afford only one I’d recommend Call of Pripyat because it has everything that GSC Wanted to have in a stalker game

    • @asiagroavacadro8973
      @asiagroavacadro8973 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryon5174 I ended up getting them because it was 10$ for all 3, have way through soc and I'm having a great time

  • @AnthonyAdrianAcker
    @AnthonyAdrianAcker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anomaly needs better Artifact usage. I really loved that in SoC artifacts had really handy uses and secret formulas for special abilities that have been stripped from the game in Anomaly.

  • @thegreenberretwearingbrony9678
    @thegreenberretwearingbrony9678 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played anomaly, a lot. Finished it 8 times.
    However, CoP was my first stalker game. I love base stalker, but anomaly is just... a happy escape

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว

      Alright I see.

    • @jeremieh5009
      @jeremieh5009 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you haven’t played the other two I highly recommend them, they’re (in my opinion) better than cop!

    • @thegreenberretwearingbrony9678
      @thegreenberretwearingbrony9678 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeremieh5009 on my list!
      But returning to anomaly after 8 year pause from stalker... it awoke the stalker in me

  • @revolveroce1258
    @revolveroce1258 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I completely agree with this
    Even as a younger fan of the series, starting out six years ago when I got my first gaming PC, I still sought out the original games and only modded them slightly, rather than the new tacticool posers who have recently come in and want to shape STALKER 2 in their own image

  • @markmiller6962
    @markmiller6962 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I want to preface what I say with the fact that I love this channel, and love the in depth lore explanations that you provide for us. But simply put, the Stalker fanbase needs to stop gatekeeping people and playstyles. Over the past few months the amount of drama over Anomaly has been absurd. There is a reason why Anomaly has become so popular and has brought so many new fans in, and it ISN'T a bad thing. I was one of them, finding out about Anomaly and then playing through the original games. Anomaly is easy to get into for someone new to the franchise, besides being free, it's focus isn't directly on story, more on exploration and those survival elements that like them or not most people recognize and enjoy from other popular titles. This allows people to take the story in at a slower pace and not be confused and overwhelmed by just jumping in straight away to the main series. I was shocked that only a year ago, the community loved Anomaly, excited to see all these new people enjoying their beloved franchise, only to get angry when new people joined and did not agree with them about what they want out of a SINGLE PLAYER GAME. I personally enjoy the experience of just being a dude in the Zone, not a main character following the main story, just an Ordinary Stalker, doing ordinary things, and for me, Anomaly fit that way better. Its beautiful to see a game that has such a variety of mods and fans dedicated to it, but ultimately tearing down others who are new to the series will not help, and will only drive them away, while making the community look like trash. And honestly over past few months this hasn't been disproven.

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see. You remain free to do and play whatever you want, don't let people dictate what you should do.

    • @KissaKassKot
      @KissaKassKot ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will gatekeep and there is nothing you can do about it

    • @LadyLuck-rd5vi
      @LadyLuck-rd5vi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@Kissa Why?

    • @astalkerfreedom567
      @astalkerfreedom567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everyone is welcome to the franchise whether it's from anomaly or OG games
      But I do recommend playing the OG games first then anomaly
      Either way, the people who started with anomaly think stalker franchise was like Anomaly and expects + wants stalker 2 to be like it
      This is a problem
      If you don't want to play the OG games
      At least be realistic and don't expect an official game to be like the unofficial mod

    • @astalkerfreedom567
      @astalkerfreedom567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or acknowledge the OG games

  • @SummerVilleGamedev
    @SummerVilleGamedev 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ive only played anomoly because its basically what I try modding fallout 4 into

  • @ChainikVlad
    @ChainikVlad ปีที่แล้ว +11

    While I like Call of Chornobyl as a platform - it did kinda hurt over those past years. Yes, making your own path and "living" in the Zone is great, but something about original stories just felt more right, like, well original trilogy and mods such as SFZ, Alone in Windstorm, Spatial Anomaly, etc.
    I still respect work put into projects like Anomaly, Dead Air, Legends Returns, CoM and so on, but for rookie stalkers - their first rodeo should be with originals.
    (Btw, I remember someone in your channel mentioned in Q&A, that they've listened your lore videos in the background while they've played Anomaly. Man, like c'mon)

    • @JebosIav
      @JebosIav ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Call of Chernobyl*

    • @sprypry
      @sprypry ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JebosIav he's trying to "politically correct" but you're right

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sprypry I am literally from Ukraine, but ok

    • @sprypry
      @sprypry ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ChainikVlad yeah, you were using the Ukrainian pronunciation to be politically correct lmao, everyone knows any stalker game or mod never used chornobyl in its English title until now with S2

    • @ChainikVlad
      @ChainikVlad ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sprypry how is spelling in my native language - considered politically correct? Are you that paranoid or something?

  • @sirloiniii6062
    @sirloiniii6062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who really enjoys Anomaly, and play it more than the originals, I agree with your points. There was this one group I was a part of, and every post and comment was about how Anomaly was the best video game.... in the world! Every game would be compared to Anomaly and it became a toxic environment that I yeeted myself out of quickly. They even complained how STALKER 2 looked too much like Metro and won't be Anomaly (according to them the true Stalker experience), and that was only with the footage from the trailer that released in 2021. The full game isn't even out yet, and already it is fighting an uphill battle with the self proclaimed "true stalker fans" in that group, and that group is definitely not an exception, there are tons like that.
    The original trilogy is still amazing to play through, and there are so many other great mods, like someone mentioned Oblivion Lost Remake.

  • @vladneacsu
    @vladneacsu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally someone addressed the Anomaly controversy

  • @michaelmcd64
    @michaelmcd64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anomaly is fun for when I want to just spend time in The Zone and explore, but when I want something with more story I like to play the original trilogy.

    • @jeremieh5009
      @jeremieh5009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Might I recommend Return to the Zone? It’s a great story mod!

    • @arbo-u2b
      @arbo-u2b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, anomaly excels in its immersive open world, not in its story and anyone who is playing anomaly for its story is in the wrong place. You can tell just by playing it that the story isn’t necessarily the point of focus of the mod.

    • @jeremieh5009
      @jeremieh5009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arbo-u2b even then, COTZ does the open world/rp thing better than anomaly and if hardcore is what you’re looking for play area or nlc

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes sense.

  • @sprypry
    @sprypry ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is a good fix for anomaly enjoyers called Old World Addon.

    • @mon0light
      @mon0light ปีที่แล้ว +2

      basically making anomaly back to call of chernobyl...

    • @sprypry
      @sprypry ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mon0light with the benefits of the monolith x Ray engine and anomalys big modding scene

    • @dededede9257
      @dededede9257 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's cool for old school trip but he still anomaly some things are very good like delete a lot of shit items useless but the gunplay mecanic it's too old and the quest system/story stay the same

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a good addon.

  • @azn9636
    @azn9636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    anomaly was my first stalker experience, i loved it, it made me buy the original trilogy, and i loved it,
    I got tired with the "tarkov/tactical" anomaly modpacks, because, I think they don't fit STALKER well, i still enjoy STALKER GAMMA, and etc.
    i installed OWA for a more, chill experience. Currently i'm working on a STALKER CS playthrough as i'm playing the og trilogy based on timeline.

  • @chrismaher8084
    @chrismaher8084 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At this point, I'm here for the mod makers. You helped chisel a POS into a staggering diamond. I was there in the beginning. I remember reading about this game in magazines I stole from Walmart and Albertsons. Lamenting the fact that I was so poor I would never play this gasmasked masterpiece. When I finally got my hands on it I, like many people, Wondered how hard it was to make a bullet go straight. As did the game developers. But in the end here we are. The best game you will ever play was cobbled together with hope, dreams and above all LOVE! CB forever. But I'd like to be on top sometimes!

  • @untrustworthy7226
    @untrustworthy7226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People should have the expections of the trilogy not anomaly

  • @ryon5174
    @ryon5174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m gonna be real honest and say that in its vanilla state, Anomaly is sort of like Misery with better graphics, and my first experience with the game was that I hated it, coming from finishing the original trilogy and exploring the mods it had
    But once you de-misery Anomaly and get rid of the cluster of junk items there are in the game, it actually becomes a really fun experience, i have around 89 mods installed and most of them are to make it feel like Shadow of Chernobyl
    Sadly, the original trilogy is outpaced by Anomaly (and sister mods like EFP and GAMMA) due to the latter being free and being covered by a lot of content creators, and what I hate the most from these mods is that they’ve deviated way too far from STALKER’s original vision in the first place
    I like variation but when the game starts to suffer from an identity crisis because of it, of course it’s going to split the fanbase
    I seriously can’t take people who seriously expect STALKER 2 should be something like GAMMA, especially knowing that STALKER was never meant to be a hardcore game, let alone it wasn’t even a very hard game in the first place. It’s all about the basics of Scavenging, Traveling, Adventuring, Looting, Killing, Exploring, and Robbing - it never needed to go way beyond those parameters, but here we are I guess

  • @thing4826
    @thing4826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way I look at it is that as someone who has only played Anomaly the gameplay trailers have lived up to my expectations so far. Because I have only played Anomaly, I am NOT going to buy the game as soon as it releases and instead wait until either I find out it has the features I am looking for OR the modding community adds what was missing (Warfare mode for example as that is seemingly excusive to Anomaly).

  • @neophyte1994
    @neophyte1994 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I first played anomaly, then GAMMA, then got addicted to the world of the zone, bought the 3 games. Played them all, now I'm back in GAMMA even more addicted. The story and atmosphere is like nothing else. I know stalker fans probably hate me but I thought the original games were very easy and I hope there is realistic gunplay and survival mechanics in S2 lol

    • @anomalousdugout9557
      @anomalousdugout9557  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice, the originals games are not so difficult indeed.

    • @arbo-u2b
      @arbo-u2b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, I think having at least the option for a more hardcore survival in the new stalker will do nothing but improve the immersion of the game. It doesn’t even have to be on by default it could be turned on or off like other RPG hardcore modes in like Skyrim or fallout or something.

    • @Individ-v1u
      @Individ-v1u ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "realistic gunplay and survival mechanics" is a disaster imo. Shooters must be dynamic and fun, player should not be afraid of getting hit otherwise he needs 5 bandages 10syringes and then after he will have screen shaking so he needs to take more syringes and then you need to drink and you only get hit once. Ridiculous. Game should be like the originals

    • @inyour_wetdreams
      @inyour_wetdreams ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But that's the problem... new players like you don't understand that STALKER isn't meant to be the "Hardcore Military Survival Sim" Yes, it's supposed to be Difficult game but it isn't supposed to be a "Realistic Survival Sim" game.
      That's the one thing I dislike about Anomaly, Because it's feels entirely like a different game.

  • @green_2159
    @green_2159 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first Stalker game I played was Stalker Anomaly; then EFP, then GAMMA, then SoC, CS, and CoP. CoP is my favorite. CS and SoC are tied for a close second. Gamma takes next, a ways behind- it’s cool and I love playing all the maps together. But I am even more excited for Stalker 2. I hope it is a successor to CoP and does not take cues from Gamma.

  • @anonimus370
    @anonimus370 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Solyanka is the WAY.

    • @F1stzz
      @F1stzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Vasyanka

  • @ixrer
    @ixrer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who's played every STALKER game, along with Anomaly, I get what you mean. There are a lot of mods to explore and experience!

  • @moottruth
    @moottruth ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I tried several times years ago to play through shadow of Chernobyl and couldn’t. After finishing anomaly it gave me the motivation to finally complete the original game.

  • @ross_boss
    @ross_boss ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The anomalous revolution and it's consequences

  • @Dingoman013
    @Dingoman013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me the main draw od stalker is the atmosphere, which i feel in many ways the mods detract from. I don't mind the gun prawn, better models etc, bur they always seem to clash with the strange aesthetic of the world. I've heard many people say the fact the world goes on without you and feels alive, like you're just an insignificant person in this world, not the main character. Whxih while the mods very much do that, they also kind of lack delving into the strange labs for novel information about long forgotten experiments etc. Not sure if i can entirely put my finger on it, but I'm hoping they aren't tainted too much by the mod scene froman atmosphere perspective, but keep some of the improvements those games offer.

  • @jeremieh5009
    @jeremieh5009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To anomaly fans, here are some other wonderful mods for you to try!
    -Return to the Zone
    -DOLLCHAN 8: Infinity
    -Secret Trails 2
    -Goldsphere
    -Sigerous mod series
    -Call of the Zone
    -and many more!

  • @astalkerfreedom567
    @astalkerfreedom567 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    THANK YOU
    finally, someone is speaking about the Anomaly situation

  • @KatarinaBohtana
    @KatarinaBohtana 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The things that drawed me into anomaly more than any other mod, was the fully accessible zone, playing as all the factions and updated and fleshed out warfare mods. That along with how frequently it is supported by the community, I could see why I played it for as long as I did.