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- What tier list should we do next? I have some ideas, but what are yours?
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0:00 Intro
1:27 general enemies
11:32 Ruins Enemies
17:28 Cove Enemies
26:26 Weald Enemies
34:14 Warrens Enemies
43:36 Courtyard Enemies
49:16 Farmstead Enemies
51:37 Endgame Enemies (Spoilers)
56:19 Outro (No Spoilers) - เกม
![[DEFINITIVE] ENEMY TIER LIST - PART 1 | Darkest Dungeon 2](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UL2tkhy--FY/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm still waiting for Ancestor quotes tier list.
It would be cool at least a top 15 or something like that
They are all freaking S tier.
Maybe a 'top XX' would be a better idea.
And, once we're at it. Making list for hero barks would also be nice
An utterly pointless task since they're all of utmost remarkable quality and distinction
Please do this
Slowly. Gently. This is how a tier list is taken.
also, I wish Darkest Dungeon had an enemy bestiary of some kind.
Maybe with some special, hard way of getting entries, so just getting them to 0HP once is not enough.
They could spin an entire backstory of some relative being a nature researcher around it. With some very dark twists of course..
@@fhialsdhkt43tg72 some kind of event boss like the shrieker, and once he dies, you can start unlocking entries with kills. 1 kill, enemy name and picture. 5 kills, enemy hp and move names with effects. 10 kills, move damage at different levels, resistance effects. 20 kills, long form lore entry.
Rain of whips does stress damage bacause he screams "Who's your daddy" as he does it.
Rain of Jumper Cables
Why doesn't flagellant get stress heal when he gets hit
@@deusfeels4586 BECOME UNSTOPPABLE
♂️endure the lash of the spanking♂️
@@dustinsterling3248 SHIVA THE EAST?? MORE LIKE
SHIVA THE DECEASED LOL
One time I quad dodged a The Revenge.
That was a good day.
Just started the game and didn’t understand how dangerous the thralls were, got revenge’d but had a quad dodge/miss, I’ve targeted them 100% ever since.
The first time I got hit by The Revenge all heroes dodged it
Literally had confusion spores blight a guy and shuffle my healer out of position, leading to a crit tree branch that brought my guy from full health to deaths door, healer lost their turn due to reposition, then blight killed my guy. I didn't even play that wrong, there was just nothing I could have done.
Which healer? Vestal can group heal from everywhere but position 1, Occultist can heal from anywhere, so I'm guessing that the Vestal got shuffled to 1?
Get more blight resist if going to the Weald.
@@TheMysteriouswatcher I'm running a modded campaign. My main healer can only heal from 3 and 4, any other characters that could heal never got the chance too before my guy died. Also it's unreasonable to assume you'll never get blighted by running 4 blight resist trinkets on your whole squad. Just saying it was unlucky and a testament to the power of the giant.
Confusion spores don't blight you though, the blight is a different attack so you could have simply cured it
Welcome to darkest dungeon
Your mod it,confusion spore does not blight anyone
I have a major gripe with the Swine reaver/slasher/slayer: Their attack isn't named "pork chop".
This comment madr me chortle
Everyone knows maggot is the most dangerous enemy in the entire game, 75% resist, 5 SPD oh wait, this isnt 2015
something to note about the mosquito enemies is that if your hero is blighted and they get hit with the thirst that blight will transfer to the mosquito, its kinda interesting as a thematic thing but happens so rarely that it doesnt affect anything at all
Me, first time playing:
"Oh. Those fish with spears are adorable. What is that? Pelagic Grouper Yeah, i guess i'll leave them and deal with the caster first..."
First turn, first attack, Seaward Slash Crits for 18 damage, highwayman at the 2nd rank immediately down to 0 hp.
Me: "WHAT THE FUCK"
Cove hallways can spawn a fight inlcuding Ghoul, Ghast and Thrall...that scares me. The unholy trinity!
Crusader: *foaming at the mouth*
*holy lances with murderous intent*
@@fishy4275 no, with holy intent
27:10 The Artillery punishes you for trying to play smart and not just do damage. And that's the worst an enemy can be
Fck those bastards
I hate the CC enemy with the invitations because they trolling you, they just laugh at you and then they run away.
I can't believe Red Hook sat down and decided to give a horse enemy stealth. Ya know, horse are known for their sneakiness in real life. You can never hear them passing by.
Well, the name of the ability they use to gain stealth (Paw the Ground) kinda implies that they're kicking up dust to make it hard to see where they are. Which is a very cute idea, I like it.
If there's one thing I can't believe they actually did it was making fucking farmhands into stress casters.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302hee hoo funny seeds
I think the "Cove Lepers" (Pelagic Groupers) having such an unassuming design is a point in its favor. Most newer players will probably start to notice how similar enemy party composition can be, especially in apprentice level dungeons, with regular damage dealers in the front and quick stress enemies in the back. So when they fight in the Cove for the first time, they'll likely underestimate these enemies since they look so similar to the bone soldiers from the ruins.
anyone else remember back when maggots had 80% PROT for some goddamn reason?
Hahahah
Metal maggots
I love how much you go out of your way to keep things spoiler free. Great to see someone really caring for the new players.
An idea as to why the fungal scratcher has such a high PROT ... being almost wholly fungal, it no longer has vital organs on which it's survival is reliant upon. Ergo, the heroes have to hack it into chunks to completely neutralize it. Their corpse artwork for this enemy bears some evidence of this.
7:40 the good old: MADMAAAN! MADMAN ON THE FIELD!
“Cove Leper” is my favorite description of those annoying fish pricks.
You forgot to mention how web seemingly has a 100% crit chance and is magnetized towards ONLY my low health characters.
Honestly I respect the fact that you included the spoiler buffer so much ty
large flesheater used devour on my favourite legend vestal 3 times in a row, without setting a mark... I've always killed them on sight ever since.
RIP Cruel, Im still waiting for that revive event.
My Cruel is a highwayman
the flesh eater on his own cannot kill any hero as long as you have heals. and it's a big enemy which means it doesn't summon reinforcements. if you got a vestal you can just stall and fish for a crit heal, while applying (de)buffs.
i understand that, paired with regular flesh eaters, or just against teams that don't have much healing the flesh eater is so broken
To date maggot is still the most dangerous enemy to me. The fact that you can get stunlocked by a maggot is astounding, not even to say the disease proc.
Squiffy Ghast is actually horrifying as hell, I once went into champion medium kill 100% room battles and got this dude in like abosultely every battle ever, and even though I had flag with some -stress trinket and some self-stress heal across the board he just spammed me with so much stress I can't keep up with I was forced to leave because the party started having heart attacks.
But you gotta admit, the sfx of him missing an attack is freaking hilarious.
Swine Skiver might actually occupy my nightmares. Champion Hellion, champion Occultist, champion Arbalest. Gone, reduced to atoms in like the second fight of the dungeon. I'm lucky I got my bounty hunter out with all their trinkets ;-;
Okay this is great and all but you really need a sell-tier slot for maggots. I'll wait for the revision video.
Esquire is such a broken RNG enemy... I still have PTSD flashbacks when remembering that not so long ago I met an enemy group made just of 4 esquires on a champion difficulty. They used "Skewering Repartee" 4 times in a row on the first turn which just destroyed my comp putting everyone at death door (Despite the fact that three of my heroes had 50+ dodge). It was pure miracle nobody had died back then.
How does a skeleton, having no lips, play a bugle?
With great difficulty
@@colossaltitan3546 awesome comment
When it comes to effectivness against the player, the blighted giant is probably an S tier, and it kinda makes makes sense, it is a giant after all, but it is still annoying.
My full health jester thinking he would be fine in a fight
The four worms getting all crits on him Killing him in one round
Yep, the game hates me
Maggots can spawn with Ghouls. Not that it makes them any better
Great video! I think I would put uca crabs at A tier or maybe S tier, I think they're a really well-designed and unique enemy. That bleed is nasty and unique, it's an enemy that you really need to take into account on the cove and I like that.
A lot of the enemies aren't threatening unless they get high roll. Mods breath so much life into DD.
this may be controversial but I love fighting Crimson Court enemies. I love their lore, designs, i'm a sucker for vampires (pun intended) and Darkest Dungeon has the coolest vampires i've ever seen in any game or work of fiction.
what this playlist has taught me is that you REALLY dislike mollusks
I'm currently playing through the game, and I appreciate the spoiler-free approach to this great video!
The Pelagic Groupers appear so unassuming but are so, so deadly. They’re kinda like the really old update of Dwarf Fortress where for some reason their was a bug that made the humble carp one of the deadliest things in the whole game. And that’s a game with deadlier enemies than DD
We all know the infamous court team of double mosquito, the invitation guy and the big stun maggot, God how often have I gotten mad fighting that.
Perhaps the hair for the Virago's dolls comes from previous heroes who it killed (speculation theory right there)
I adore these long explained tierlists, its actually quite enthralling, thank you squids 😊
Also glad that the SEA maggots were put in the C tier, a probably unintentional connection 😌
@@maxxieboy271 Glad you liked it! I'm not squidz though :P
@@ShuffleFM Oh WAIT, MY BAD!! I GET YA BOTH MIXED UP SO MUCH 😁
Love you too shuffle >:((((
Talking about slimes, i had a bloodmoon run recently where i met 3 of those guys (first encounter with them at that save file). It was my first turn i think and i was only able to kill 2/3 of them. "Easy" i thought, "it will use slime and i'm done next turn". Well... Ectoplasmic Profusion... and my frontline stunned... both of them, double crit. That was fun. It never happend to me earlier and i thought they are able to do this only when you're playing veteran+. As someone wise said "overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer".
BTW nice videos. Thanks for your tutorials. You saved at least 1/4 of my heroes.
im just gonna say its really weird seeing the enemies oriented to the right
The fungal ghouls or whatever they are called teach you early on to use bleed/blight or crits to take em out so that hateful virtago doesn't completely fuck you over in champion
It was a bit confusing for me to look at the enemy portraits looking to the right instead of the left. I had trouble figuring out what some of them were at first glance
The Darkest Dungeon Wiki also has the enemies face that way in their pictures, which is a bit wierd.
I've been having an easier time with the giant because I've been choosing to take arbalest and occultist there more than vestal. The fact that vestal can only move 1 in either direction is so hard to deal with in fights like the giant's, and I think the mark synergy between occultist and arbalest is really good in the weald.
Also, I really love front line occultist now that you've showed it to me, but I only use him if I have a secondary healer. A crusader at the very least, hopefully arbalest.
That's the way to do it. Most people don't run a second healer with occultist then get mad when he rolls low. He shouldn't be your only healer, he needs help
32:06 flashbacks of how many times double giants have killed someone in my endless harvest runs
how about a tier list for curios for completing rating dd definitely
I'm a simple man, I see Darkest Dungeon Shuffle videos, I click.
Only thing I heard in this video was that there's a mod to change the Bone Rabble into a giant with Bone Branch Smackdown.
Take a shot anytime shuffle says “obnoxious” in this video
Gonna blackout 2 minutes in :P
I wish I found your channel earlier. This content is great, keep it up! Subscribed!
Like the way Shuffle says SSSSSSSShuffle, quite explosive.
What a gentleman, not spoiling such an old game lmao. No but new players appreciate it
I used to play a few years back and never finished the game but for some reason I didn't ever think the spiders were bad.
I started a new playthrough recently, (on radiant) and assumed things would be a lot easier. Lost two heroes to the blight spiders very early on. The crazy thing is the spider Crit the exact total amount of the antiquarians HP and the blight caused a deathblow.
Even worse about the slimes...They don't even drop loot!
Edit: 47:22 I think you might be underestinating Esquires. If you let one of those guys get off a Skewering Rapartee, it can be pretty devastating. On higher difficulties especially, I find that you have to prioritize these guys over Chevaliers. I think Esquire is higher than C.
Farmhand should be A just look at this other way its Farmstead. Farmhand are just classic Farmstead enemys they have everything that might be dangerous for you blight stress dmg but they are also really balanced if they gave you less stress it would just got outhealed by Jester to easy.Farmstead had to have this regular enemy and its done really good their look colors (they change from blue to green and thats really cool you might not notice that) farmer design. Its just fits color of madness dlc to good to have them in C.
And their synergy with Foreman is really well designed.
Man i hate spiders. I had a lvl 6 full Heath crusader at the start of a fight, and at round 2 he was blighted, at deaths door and stuned. 3 crits for 24 in a row and they dodged almost all my atacks (the only one that landed was for minimal damage obviously) and i know it was just me having a terrible luck, but Man, i still hate them beacouse of that
I wish an eternal wanting to sneeze really bad but being unable to for the madman.
SPOILERS FOR ENDGAME ENEMIES
One thing I love about the Ascended Brawlers is the name of their attack! It's just a small thing obviously, but after seeing "Rend for the Old Gods" soooo many times, the name "Rend for the New God" caught me off guard. I like the implication that the cultists changed their allegiance and got new powers for it!
I just love the lore crumbs in this game haha
I wouldn't even mind the horse that much either if it did not also had a surprisingly obnoxious amount of dodge for somethign so big and dangerous.
Flesh Hounds are cute and you cannot convince me otherwise
Wouldn’t an enemy being less common make it more interesting since it feels more unique when you encounter it?
Hey Shuffle my dude, so I've been binging like every one of your videos; did you ever consider a Color of Madness endless farmstead guide, specifically team comps, strategies, etc. to get highest score possible? Or maybe you have one and I couldn't find it. Anyways thanks for all the content.
It's in the works :) It's a project I've needed to do but never got to doing it. I'll try to have it in the next few weeks.
30:34 ahh slimes, reminds me of my first veteran weald where i spent like 24 turns trying to kill those pieces of shit only for them to keep summoning more each turn, it made me avoid the weald for a long time
Four Pelagic Groupers is terrifying. You're going to take a beating, and it's hard to counter all four.
First time I encountered a group of em I was overconfident and thought they would all die quickly. They targeted my jester and killed him on turn one. I fled from that dungeon and have never underestimated any foe since.
Bone rabble is S tier because he's the perfect enemy to stall with 😂 always glad to see him in an enemy comp
In some situations I don't even bother stunning him because with some healers you can even outheal his tiny damage (or if I'm lucky I just dodge it), and you might accidentally kill him too fast with crusaders bonk.
Just hanging out with your skele bro as your team takes a quick breather ❤
Woah Tier List video with facecam
I've played through darkest dungeon at least 3 or 4 times and I've never ever had trouble with the slimes so I don't really understand your problem with them
I also hate chevaliers because they take forever
otherwise good list
The main issue is slime doesn't drop loot. I understand why, but it still sucks
@@ShuffleFM Oh yeah i forgot about that
that sucks too yeah
Good video as always, but I really wish they were instead rated on how dangerous they are to your party
If I see a stress enemy it's pretty guaranteed that I'm going to assualt them with everything I have but it becomes less of a battle calculation and more of a personal vendetta when that stress enemy is the madman... I absolutely despise them. I can become so petty when it comes to enemies that aren't just threats but they don't appear that way and then they mock you by making it way to difficult to end them. I know they are just a program but I deliberately stack as much bleed as possible while being as toxic as possible to them in my mind by calling them names and imaging their suffering. I really really don't like that enemy but the tier position does seem correct, even if I'd rather burn them from existence lol.
Here's a complaint I have about this game.
With most objects you come across, as soon as you drag the appropriate item into the object, the object resolves. Not so with obstacles. With those, you have to drag the shovel into the input box, then click it. I can't count the number of times I have dragged in the shovel, then unthinkingly clicked the interact icon, which then resolves the obstacle as if you had not dragged in the shovel.
WTF was it coded this way?
Probably just a bad oversight. DD1 was made by 5 people iirc so there are a lot of random issues in it
i was expecting the giant having its own tier just for the memes
Thanks for your videos!!! It's a shame that a lot of people who see your videos don't give a like.
Bone courtier has one of the the best trinket drops
I thought it was going to be a strength tier lost lol.
will there be a tier list for enemy mods in the future?
If it's on tiermaker then I'll be open to it.
Exceptional
Spider is S Tier. Meet them on expert, they dodged everything and killed a guy in the first or second round :D
aw man rip my boy bone conscript, he will always be s tier in my heart
Do you think red hook intended the double entendre with seaward and c-word?
Rend for the old gods to Rend for the new gods
this video is bassicly "aight this guy, hes really fucking abnoxious" xD
Bone Arbalists always feel like they seem to crit more than they actually should. Either that, or the crits happen at the worst times.
41:02 I’ll assume you’ve failed by the jump cut
I think you should swap swine chopper with swine slasher. Chopper is i think one of the best balanced front line enemys in game its tanky it have stun and some dmg but you can stun it and its not as tanky as for example Pelagic Guardian from cove. Slasher is just boring it spams one attack and does a lot of dmg in all ranks. I'd rather got fcked by interesting Chopper that fits really good in swine (when i think of enemys in warrens he is cooming first to my mind) than boring Slasher spam one hit invisible shit that can crit me really hard.
Choppers have too much crit chance on all of their attacks, more prot than is warranted, and really bloated hp. They're annoying and not in the way that interesting but difficult enemies are annoying.
THE CONTENT
Giants deserve to take up 3 slots. Most annoying and boring unit to deal with it. Almost always just bring arba/occu in weald.
Doesn’t the small armored skeleton give a stun debuff with his axe blade last apprentice level? Synergizes with big skeleton a little bit
are there any mashes that have both a bone defender and a bone captain? feels like they both want to occupy the same position tbh.
They would have to be mashes that put the big skeleton in ranks 2 and 3. I can't remember if that happens or not for these, but it does happen for uca crabs.
I could have sworn I had 2 maggots show up with a ghoul...
yea its a possible hallway fight for sure maybe he didnt think of it at the time
I didn't think of it, that's right :)
I had 3 maggots with Virago
Love the vid, but I'm confused what your criteria is. Some some enemies that he says are very strong and threatening he puts in high tier but some go in low tiers. That would make me thing it's based on how well designed, fair, and cool they are. But, some enemies he claims to hate, like Ghoul, go into high tiers
It's mostly a combo of what I like and how well designed I think they are
@@ShuffleFM okay cool
I want one of these for 2 already
I was waiting for chirurgeon and collector to be added :)
@@ShuffleFM Wouldn't they be bosses?
@@JDoe-ox6ie Collector is but they said he's coming with the doctor. Someone wanted to collab for the list which is why we are waiting.
@ShuffleFM Ah okay. I didn't even hear about Chierugon but that's neat. Thanks for replying, I didn't expect it at all.
Take a shot every time he says "obnoxious".
green spider is the deadliest enemy.
Maggots make no sense to me. Like it’s clearly supposed to be an easy enemy, but then it does stress, stun, and disease? Too strong for what it is.
the problem that i have with court enemies is them using the thirst 5 times in a row.
Also, fuck chevs, 1 manservant 3 chevs made me lose 2 people lmao.
Giant carrion eater can do devour 1st is because they wanted to keep monster less predictable. But you have to admit the design of a giant carrion eater looks very cool.
No, they don't follow their own rules. If they wanted them to be less predictable they should have given them more than 2 attacks.
I had to quit this one after 2 of the bullshit fast and evasive stress nuke enemies and the prot-having full party stress nuke enemy got put in S tier. XP
Like come on, the thing that just keeps smacking you with 20 stress at a time should not be going first 90% of the time AND be constantly dodging.
Yeah you really gotta plan most parties around those dudes. One of the big flaws of enemy design.
Cove lepers better go to the F tier
Edit: Lol I knew you'd do something like that haha. Also I agree 100% with the S tier.
fish tier?
@@fishy4275 More like the Fck oFF tier
I hate the spiders so much, I really hope they're close to bottom
Hello Shuffle! I like your videos very much, but there's always one thing that kind of sets me off. I understand that you don't want to spoil the game for the new players, but I think you should not use these nicknames after you said, that there are spoilers ahead. Maybe its just me, but for some reason I just can't get over it. Beside this I like your content very much and hope that there will be more soon! Thank you!
What nicknames are you referring to? I don't remember what I said.
@@ShuffleFM Shieldbreakers "mechanic", Viragos gimmick etc. Its like, we all know what you wanted to say, but you just don't say it, so its just annoying. Dont get me wrong, its really not a big deal, in all of your videos it is the only little thing that I dont 100% like
@@ShuffleFM For example, I live in Russia, and for some reason we do not use swear words in dubbing films, even if they are designed for an adult audience. The result is a situation where the word is replaced with something more harmless, but everyone, including the dubbing actors, understands what should be here. It's a little annoying, but it doesn't make the content much worse.
@@angrydogg5482 I understand. I do it to protect the new players that watch me but I can see how it gets annoying for veterans.