leo Ibañez no hate I also own a sleeper, but at least mine's a Relic 4.0L Passat W8, hand it to the Germans to tell a joke making an endangered species thats cannibalistic.!. Lol
2:45 I agree so much. GM likes to make cars that COULD have been awesome but JUST missed the mark. Never fails. The SS sedan is another example, should've been what it's aussie counterpart was but instead they made a decent family sedan, what the impala should be.
+xXBurntBaconXx Yeah that's what Chevy calls it. I didn't know the zr1 had it too. I'd imagine it's way more of a handful to drive that with flat foot / no lift shifting considering you have to be wide open throttle to use it
Actually it is intended to keep the boost spooled because the turbo never releases its not in any n/a car chevy makes its only in the supercharged zr1 and the turbo ss cobalt
It’s great here in Colorado my older bro has a impala ss and I got a cobalt ss and it’s just perfect cause we don’t need to store our cars for the winter
That is why not many cars are rwd anymore besides super cars or cars with long history of being RWD . Most newer cars are AWD but for example supras mustangs Camero ect will always be a RWD car for the history.. but that same history hinders the sales of the product big time keeping it as a toy/summer car for northern areas with snow
I had a cavalier Did the supercharger then the turbo.. Lost to a jeep cherokee with a supercharged srt8 and a trailblazer ss. I got blown away by the jeep. But wasnt blown out by the trailblazer ss.. cobalt is the same thing.. i just like cavi better aesthetically.. I miss her..
The base model of this car is probably one of the lightest production cars I've ever driven. When he said it's like a go-cart, he really wasn't lying. You can throw even the base models super hard at 70+ miles an hour and not worry about slipping.
JD B Same. Built my base 2.2 into a proper slot car. Even fully bolted it's quite slow, but the suspension from the SS/TC is a direct bolt-on and completely transforms the car. Get some sticky tires and a rear sway bar and you've got something good lol
Man I'm a diehard fan of cobalts i own one myself but it's a 2dr LT automatic but my favorite one is the ss turbocharged cobalt and I can't wait to get my hands on one for a daily driver.
they are amazing i bought my 08 LNF cobalt 1.3 years ago. im now full bolt on and sitting at 320whp @25 psi zzp tuned. best MOST reliable car ive ever owned. will never sell it.
@@sinformant no we used to have a Sky 5spd and it was a turd very comfortable and a nice looking sporty ride but not fast nor quick my uncle's 2018 Sonata Limited beat it from a dig and a roll for shits n giggles but honestly my Ford Edge Sport would probably gap a Sky
I own a 2006 SS Supercharged. It's slower than the turbo, has a ridiculous wing on the back, has a dwindling list of OEM part availability, and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT CAR. It's getting stripped down and completely rebuilt so I can give it to my son in a couple years.
I had a 4 door turbo SS. Only 471 made! Awesome little car. The RWD “version” is the Solstice GXP. Had two of those. Same engine and mostly all the same features!
there was a rwd version. If I remember correctly, this engine, the LNF, was developed for the pontiac solstice gxp first. RWD 50/50 weight distribution vehicle.
I miss this! Before they got so popular and now everything is given to them. The first review I ever saw was the Honda element and I will have you know I am now a proud Honda element owner. I now own of these, a supercharged and a turbo charged. I absolutely love this car and all of it's shortcomings.
Nice review! Best kept secret indeed! I love mine. And you guys hit all the right notes with your analysis; flat foot shifting, competitive mode, cheap tune adds gobs of hp, and, oh the possibilities if this things were only RWD. I'm with you all the way! Thanks for this refreshing look at an often overlooked North American beauty!
Bullrider I've had mine since 2011 when I picked up an '09 with 987 miles on it for 20k. I've put over 100k on it and it stills pulls strong under boost. Just had to replace the MAF sensor and the intercooler at 100k after hitting it on a low driveway entrance one too many times. But the ZZP aftermarket intercooler is bigger and cools better anyhow. Love this car. Gets 35-40 mpg on the highway and still takes many a v8 to the woodshed. Happy hunting!
I Remember buying one when i was 16 saved all i had for it and the day i took it home i stalled so many times learning manual. Loved this car fastest i ever went was in this thing. sold it to another cool guy hopefully shes still out there!
I've own this car for about 8yrs, bought it with 16,xxx miles now it's close to 150k miles. I daily this, winter, summer, fall, spring you name it been trough it. You take care of the car it will take care of you, no major problems still on the stock clutch, regular maintenance most regular vehicles require about it. Definitely quick, fun, very inexpensive, lots of good affordable mods and companys supporting this make of Cobalt. It's a good deal.
First and foremost, I love the production quality of your videos. Great shots, great editing, and overall great composition. Now for what I dislike: Anything you actually say about the car. It all feels like you read some other people's opinion on the car and claim them as your own. Now my issue with this video specifically: every asshole under the sun who can't drive worth shit makes fun of FWD. FWD cars make amazing track cars, and you would know that if you actually took cars on track. Yes I understand track driving isn't for everyone, but making fun of it because you don't know how to use it properly is a "you" problem, and not the cars fault. I have a cobalt SS turbo sedan with 181k miles bone stock and it takes my daily driving well, my autocross/hpde events with a smile and asks for more. It puts solid lap times, and gets decent fuel economy. What more do you want from an econo-performance shitbox?
They didn't make it RWD for a reason! They took a leaf out of Hondas book, and realized that FF cars have insane turn in, and corner speed. Bring it back, and keep it FF! Just get rid of rear torsion beam so it doesn't float pls gm.
Drove one once. If I had the money at the time I’d have bought it in a second. It was so fast and fun .. scary fast almost. Handled amazing. It looked amazing too (the one I drove had the big wing .. didn’t know they made a small wing version)
I hope you guys know that this video Convinced me to buy one (I had been debating it for a while now) and now I have one as my DD and it is a fun lil car!
Although with a $300 zzp tune, k&n intake and downpipe you can make over 300whp and like 350wtq. or hp tune with the same bolt ons and get 340whp and 400wtq! you can easily get 60+ whp safely for under $1000.
@@TheStraightPipes Crazy power considering a 2019 Civic Si with a stage 1 tune at 23-24 psi only makes 237whp or like 250-260 brake hp. Lol i have a 19 Si.
I’ve owned a cobalt SS supercharged and turbo and always said the same thing wishing it was RWD, but then I bought a Solstice GXP, which was a fun car, but I still enjoyed the Cobalt SS Turbo more. Best 4 banger motor IMO. Very underrated cars.
The reaction to the “actually developed on the Nürburgring “ statement was freakin hilarious. I paused the video and laughed at that for several minutes.
No Lift shift FTW Most people don't know what it is they pull up next to me at the light and get smoked second gear is where I usually pull away over 60 in 2nd if you wind it out. 😁
I've been looking to replace my recently totaled truck. Around the $6k range I have landed on most likely a Mazdaspeed 3 or Cobalt SS. I'd prefer the Mazda honestly for practicality reasons and I've heard they are surprisingly fun. The Cobalt looks like a good bit more fun tho. Hmm decisions lol.
It was not the fist GM tuner car. The Saturn Ion redline came out 1 year earlier. Which the Cobalt was based off of. One can argue before that was the 90's Olds Cutlass Calais 442 amd Achieva SCX. Or the 80's Chevy Citation X11
First its not gms first tuner car, 04 saturn ion redline basically was. And second they do have a rwd version, actually two. Saturn sky and Pontiac solstice.
I used to have one of these! Amazing cheap little car. Shocked a few people for sure! So they did put this engine in a new camaro soo might need to test drive that soon!!! ;)
GM had the Soltice GXP & the Saturn Sky Redline which are better looking nicer cars with the same engine, better chassis, convertible and REAR wheel drive… so you’re wrong about GM only tuner car
I have a 2004 Cavalier Ls and still running pass 125k miles to recently installed a CAI from Weapon R call their Secret Weapon, very awesome filter and sound with small gas mileage boost to soon putting a complete exhaust system upgrade. Same engine and 4 speed automatic transmission. Before you jump on me for not having a manual, it shift very smooth and quick to have a speed advantage over acceleration to have cruise control. I can hit 80Mph too easily from 55Mph pulling. If I were to get a Cavalier rear wheel drive with the same engines, it going to be on a 80's Hatchback Cavalier coupe if I can find it and install with a L61 2.2 ecotec with a supercharger in the rear since it already light enough as it is and many custom buggy builder use that same engine. I like the supercharger sound more than turbo and it was a mistake to put a supercharger on a 2.0 ecotec engine after the end of the Cavalier line. Funny fact, some of the last Cavalier commercial is a guys singing Miss American Pie in the Cavalier Ls Sport. It was a dumb ideas to have a LS and a LS Sport in the name, the only difference is XML Satellite Radio with fancy rim and body frame with a sunroof on the Ls Sport with the same engine, only in the late 2002 Cavalier have a sport option to upgrade to a Ecotec 2.2 L61 to be a much much better engine. And there was a Toyota Cavalier, you can google that one. There is quite a history of the 2.2 L61 engine too and was developed by Lotus group before being sold to bugatti. www.nytimes.com/1993/08/28/business/company-news-gm-sells-its-lotus-group-to-bugatti.html The Lotus group were the one that developed the engine and here one example of how strong these ecotech were, th-cam.com/video/jnkI9hmAHBY/w-d-xo.html 4cly turbo ecotec vs v8 turbo mustang. It can pull a wheelie on the rear wheel.
I seen a cobalt ss couple weeks ago color was red and I was in my truck soon as the light turn green we both got off the line good but I beat him some how at 60 mph my truck start pulling hard he wasn’t gaining on me but I wonder how I beat a Chevy cobalt SS
There are other variants of the SS, the supercharged SS which makes 205 stock and a NA which makes 170 HP. You prob raced either of these but chances are it was prob the NA model which I don't even know why Chevy designated that an SS car when it only made 20 more horsepower than base 😂
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Let the haters hate on the Cobalt SS Turbo. I own one and I love it. I will never sell it, I’ll keep it forever.
leo Ibañez no hate I also own a sleeper, but at least mine's a Relic 4.0L Passat W8, hand it to the Germans to tell a joke making an endangered species thats cannibalistic.!. Lol
It's underrated
2:45 I agree so much. GM likes to make cars that COULD have been awesome but JUST missed the mark. Never fails. The SS sedan is another example, should've been what it's aussie counterpart was but instead they made a decent family sedan, what the impala should be.
It is an awesome and forgotten car. I had no idea they offered a stage one tune as well
You damn well better.....GM cars suck ass nowadays
Chevy calls it "no lift shift", its to maintain turbo boost. The Corvette ZR1 also has it.
+xXBurntBaconXx Yeah that's what Chevy calls it. I didn't know the zr1 had it too. I'd imagine it's way more of a handful to drive that with flat foot / no lift shifting considering you have to be wide open throttle to use it
It's not to maintain boost, It's to allow you to shift and keep to your floor to the floor to shift quickly with minimal damage to the transmission.
+Purple Heart it's both
Actually it is intended to keep the boost spooled because the turbo never releases its not in any n/a car chevy makes its only in the supercharged zr1 and the turbo ss cobalt
Technically it's "no lift to shift" (NLTS), but hey, semantics lol
I like how the impala SS and Cobalt SS are fwd, makes them more drivable in snowy and rainy places like here in Colorado
Exactly. Some of us want a tuner we can drive more than 3 months out of the year lol
It’s great here in Colorado my older bro has a impala ss and I got a cobalt ss and it’s just perfect cause we don’t need to store our cars for the winter
@@xs0vietmanx I wish I got a cobalt ss or Impala ss instead, I got a mustang gt and winters are such a pain even with snow tires and sand bags
@@DarkSplash99 you can always get one lmao
That is why not many cars are rwd anymore besides super cars or cars with long history of being RWD . Most newer cars are AWD but for example supras mustangs Camero ect will always be a RWD car for the history.. but that same history hinders the sales of the product big time keeping it as a toy/summer car for northern areas with snow
This guy knows his facts. Pretty impressive, and a criminally underrated car. Much love for the SS and Cobalt/G5s in general
+Man from Nantucket thanks!
I had a cavalier Did the supercharger then the turbo.. Lost to a jeep cherokee with a supercharged srt8 and a trailblazer ss. I got blown away by the jeep. But wasnt blown out by the trailblazer ss.. cobalt is the same thing.. i just like cavi better aesthetically.. I miss her..
Seems like a pretty underated car to me it looks pretty good for a early 2000s Chevy product and sounds good too
I test drove one and really liked it. The no-lift shift is nice and brembo breaks up front are big. And with just a tune and exhaust yields huge gains
I have a 2010 Colbat SS and its awesome! Haul ass, good on gas and lots of upgrades.
Kinda cool seeing you guys review this. Wanted this for my first car when I was in highschool because NFSMW (2005)
Had my 09 for 4 years now. Love it still.
Glad y'all reviewed this car. I have a base model I turned into a little sleeper and it puts a smile on my face nearly every day.
+JD B right on!
JD B LoL base model 😂
ChroniZz you don't even have a car I bet
The base model of this car is probably one of the lightest production cars I've ever driven. When he said it's like a go-cart, he really wasn't lying. You can throw even the base models super hard at 70+ miles an hour and not worry about slipping.
JD B Same. Built my base 2.2 into a proper slot car. Even fully bolted it's quite slow, but the suspension from the SS/TC is a direct bolt-on and completely transforms the car. Get some sticky tires and a rear sway bar and you've got something good lol
Man I'm a diehard fan of cobalts i own one myself but it's a 2dr LT automatic but my favorite one is the ss turbocharged cobalt and I can't wait to get my hands on one for a daily driver.
they are amazing i bought my 08 LNF cobalt 1.3 years ago. im now full bolt on and sitting at 320whp @25 psi zzp tuned. best MOST reliable car ive ever owned. will never sell it.
They did make a rwd version. Take a Pontiac Solstice GXP for a spin.
+TheMr6507 close but not quite the same type of car! Would definitely like to try one out though
TheMr6507. Don't forget the Saturn sky redline
It's slow
Yuyu Shadow Walkz compared to what a Hellcat?
@@sinformant no we used to have a Sky 5spd and it was a turd very comfortable and a nice looking sporty ride but not fast nor quick my uncle's 2018 Sonata Limited beat it from a dig and a roll for shits n giggles but honestly my Ford Edge Sport would probably gap a Sky
Actually the Saturn Ion Red Line was GM's first attempt at a compact tuner. It came out a year before the first version of the Cobalt SS.
They also used to offer to install a supercharger on the cavalier z24, kind of like how toyota does with the tacoma
I own a 2006 SS Supercharged. It's slower than the turbo, has a ridiculous wing on the back, has a dwindling list of OEM part availability, and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT CAR. It's getting stripped down and completely rebuilt so I can give it to my son in a couple years.
"This interior is so cheap"
Cries in Subaru BRZ
They didn’t mention how it literally has the same steering wheel as the Corvette.
I had a 4 door turbo SS. Only 471 made! Awesome little car. The RWD “version” is the Solstice GXP. Had two of those. Same engine and mostly all the same features!
there was a rwd version. If I remember correctly, this engine, the LNF, was developed for the pontiac solstice gxp first. RWD 50/50 weight distribution vehicle.
Dude the camera angles in this review are awesome
I have an 06 Chevy SS and it’s my cute lil sports car 😊😊 love it so much
Lucky :-(
You're a cute little sports car yourself! 😍
Fastest car under 25k in 2008. So i was told by the salesman when I punched my ss turbo new in 08
You still got it?
I had the same car, same year, but with the Wing spoiler. Damn I miss this car! So good. Bring it back GM with RWD.
how much you pay for it? Did it come stock with a blow off valve?
Bullrider it had 69k when I bought it for 14k. I now realize that was kinda a ripoff lol no Bov, just a quiet wastegate.
I miss this! Before they got so popular and now everything is given to them. The first review I ever saw was the Honda element and I will have you know I am now a proud Honda element owner. I now own of these, a supercharged and a turbo charged. I absolutely love this car and all of it's shortcomings.
Nice review! Best kept secret indeed! I love mine. And you guys hit all the right notes with your analysis; flat foot shifting, competitive mode, cheap tune adds gobs of hp, and, oh the possibilities if this things were only RWD. I'm with you all the way!
Thanks for this refreshing look at an often overlooked North American beauty!
How much did you pick yours up for? Does it come with a blow off valve or wastegate?
Bullrider I've had mine since 2011 when I picked up an '09 with 987 miles on it for 20k. I've put over 100k on it and it stills pulls strong under boost. Just had to replace the MAF sensor and the intercooler at 100k after hitting it on a low driveway entrance one too many times. But the ZZP aftermarket intercooler is bigger and cools better anyhow.
Love this car. Gets 35-40 mpg on the highway and still takes many a v8 to the woodshed.
Happy hunting!
@@bullridermusic2054 you can get them for 5-8k dollars. Criminally underrated car and I hope it stays that way.
I Remember buying one when i was 16 saved all i had for it and the day i took it home i stalled so many times learning manual. Loved this car fastest i ever went was in this thing. sold it to another cool guy hopefully shes still out there!
I've own this car for about 8yrs, bought it with 16,xxx miles now it's close to 150k miles. I daily this, winter, summer, fall, spring you name it been trough it. You take care of the car it will take care of you, no major problems still on the stock clutch, regular maintenance most regular vehicles require about it. Definitely quick, fun, very inexpensive, lots of good affordable mods and companys supporting this make of Cobalt. It's a good deal.
First and foremost, I love the production quality of your videos. Great shots, great editing, and overall great composition.
Now for what I dislike: Anything you actually say about the car. It all feels like you read some other people's opinion on the car and claim them as your own.
Now my issue with this video specifically: every asshole under the sun who can't drive worth shit makes fun of FWD. FWD cars make amazing track cars, and you would know that if you actually took cars on track. Yes I understand track driving isn't for everyone, but making fun of it because you don't know how to use it properly is a "you" problem, and not the cars fault. I have a cobalt SS turbo sedan with 181k miles bone stock and it takes my daily driving well, my autocross/hpde events with a smile and asks for more. It puts solid lap times, and gets decent fuel economy. What more do you want from an econo-performance shitbox?
They didn't make it RWD for a reason! They took a leaf out of Hondas book, and realized that FF cars have insane turn in, and corner speed. Bring it back, and keep it FF! Just get rid of rear torsion beam so it doesn't float pls gm.
Underrated car... underrated channel
Drove one once. If I had the money at the time I’d have bought it in a second. It was so fast and fun .. scary fast almost. Handled amazing. It looked amazing too (the one I drove had the big wing .. didn’t know they made a small wing version)
I hope you guys know that this video Convinced me to buy one (I had been debating it for a while now) and now I have one as my DD and it is a fun lil car!
Fuck ya
You sweared, OMG!
Yuri saying “Cavalier” made my day
Did you say they made a 290hp package for the tc cobalt
+landon hall yes! Stage 1 package from GM
Although with a $300 zzp tune, k&n intake and downpipe you can make over 300whp and like 350wtq.
or hp tune with the same bolt ons and get 340whp and 400wtq!
you can easily get 60+ whp safely for under $1000.
+Barles Chronson amazing value
I have the HP tune and it's insane. It's my wife's DD. She likes the way it "sounds." I get to visit on weekends and holidays. ;0)
@@TheStraightPipes Crazy power considering a 2019 Civic Si with a stage 1 tune at 23-24 psi only makes 237whp or like 250-260 brake hp. Lol i have a 19 Si.
I have a rwd car... cobalts just as fun... my ss tc sitting at 430 hp
Casey Terwilliger I’m at 440 hehe
@@SaucyGarage corvette traitor
The mini impala SS. I loved my cobalt but I love the spacious impala more
I have a manual 2007 cobalt special edition with an intake and exhaust kit, not even the SS Turbo and still i love that car jeez
I’ve owned a cobalt SS supercharged and turbo and always said the same thing wishing it was RWD, but then I bought a Solstice GXP, which was a fun car, but I still enjoyed the Cobalt SS Turbo more. Best 4 banger motor IMO. Very underrated cars.
Most underrated car in history, even most wanted has introduced through game, but still underrated
Novian P and?
If you want a mini vette get a Solstice GXP/Sky Redline, same engine as this but much more refined handling and RWD.
The Saturn Sky is literally a 7/8 scale C6, you can even fit a small block in there.
This is a good review, and looks fine and love the fact that it’s fwd
beautiful car, will be a classic car
Whoever edited this, you need a raise
Wow I can see how your guys channel blew up based on the quality of this old video!
Miss these cars. Wish my 2017 Cruze had the LNF. The LE2 is half the power, although Trifecta got me to 200whp
I remember when these first came out with the Supercharger before the turbo and 205 Hp - also, the Saturn Ion Redline had the same S'chrg engine!
The reaction to the “actually developed on the Nürburgring “ statement was freakin hilarious. I paused the video and laughed at that for several minutes.
Damn I miss my turbo Cobalt. Fastest car in the highschool parking lot. I added too much power to mine and just spun the tires in 1st and 2nd.
Same! Had a turbo balt in my highschool years. Want another now
Fell asleep and wrecked mine. Kinda miss it but after watching this I really miss it.
No matter what car you review I enjoy the banter between you two. Plus one of you drives the same car as me, ISF FTW
+NEVERL8 INAV8 haha right on man, thanks! And yeah, ISF is best
I got a 2005 sc ss stage 2 in my garage. 100,000 km on it. 260hp full exhaust.
Obviously turbos are more efficient but find yourself a G85 Cobalt SS/SC and cherish it forever.
The gm stage 1 upgrade makes these a threat even to modern type R's
No Lift shift FTW Most people don't know what it is they pull up next to me at the light and get smoked second gear is where I usually pull away over 60 in 2nd if you wind it out. 😁
Your two came a long way in 4 yrs haha way better vids now a days but I was trying to find a Chevy ss review
Only thing better than the Turbocharged Cobalt SS was the more rare Supercharged Cobalt SS version. 😎
You should get into a Cavalier if you want a crappy dashboard... if you can find one that isn't breaking apart like generic brand doritos
awesome video! Did not realize any if those features were on this. If this were rwd this would be a halo car. Great job fellas !
+Blake Swan thanks! We had no idea either until we looked into it. Super cool cheap car
Agree. Love your guys banter as well. Happy I found the channel.
+Blake Swan sweet thanks for subscribing! The key to our banter is hating eachother
I like it it has the corvette DNA
Best Car in Video Game NFS Most Wanted 2005
I've been looking for a stock ss for months! All of the ss models i see are either supercharged, already tuned, or beat to shit
I wish you guys addressed the solid F-type control arms in the front suspension. They are solid not stamped steel.
oh the good old day's of TSP!!!!
I've been looking to replace my recently totaled truck. Around the $6k range I have landed on most likely a Mazdaspeed 3 or Cobalt SS. I'd prefer the Mazda honestly for practicality reasons and I've heard they are surprisingly fun. The Cobalt looks like a good bit more fun tho.
Hmm decisions lol.
I was debating on building up a 2001 sunfire with the ln2 and 5spd. But I am debating on doing this one now
this video is 2 years old and I just realized this was shot in Mississauga!
The rear lights look like old school Nissan GT-R lights.
Damn he didnt even have a sunroof but this car has no limits its amazing
Easily one of the best used performance cars under $13,000. There’s like 4-6 good ones available in the US right now.
Love this car I want this car
It was not the fist GM tuner car. The Saturn Ion redline came out 1 year earlier. Which the Cobalt was based off of. One can argue before that was the 90's Olds Cutlass Calais 442 amd Achieva SCX. Or the 80's Chevy Citation X11
Seeing as bob lutz is the reason we got the Holden Monaco / commodore I wonder if he had something to do with this car too!
+jahbrother Bob is the man
John Heinricy was the main developmental engineer for the turbo Cobalt SS
First its not gms first tuner car, 04 saturn ion redline basically was. And second they do have a rwd version, actually two. Saturn sky and Pontiac solstice.
U delivered pizza in a blue 09 ls. Dey quick
shit i drove my lsj turbo swap from 20k up to 260,937 miles when i sold her... not a SINGLE ENGINE PROBLEM
This is my best car in nfsmw
I used to have one of these! Amazing cheap little car. Shocked a few people for sure! So they did put this engine in a new camaro soo might need to test drive that soon!!! ;)
Ummm..The Saturn Ion Redline was GMs' pride and joy for its first fwd tuner car, then they added the Cobalt SS to the mix..The Ion looks better too.
I don't like the way that Ion looks at all
GM had the Soltice GXP & the Saturn Sky Redline which are better looking nicer cars with the same engine, better chassis, convertible and REAR wheel drive… so you’re wrong about GM only tuner car
I have a 2004 Cavalier Ls and still running pass 125k miles to recently installed a CAI from Weapon R call their Secret Weapon, very awesome filter and sound with small gas mileage boost to soon putting a complete exhaust system upgrade. Same engine and 4 speed automatic transmission. Before you jump on me for not having a manual, it shift very smooth and quick to have a speed advantage over acceleration to have cruise control.
I can hit 80Mph too easily from 55Mph pulling. If I were to get a Cavalier rear wheel drive with the same engines, it going to be on a 80's Hatchback Cavalier coupe if I can find it and install with a L61 2.2 ecotec with a supercharger in the rear since it already light enough as it is and many custom buggy builder use that same engine. I like the supercharger sound more than turbo and it was a mistake to put a supercharger on a 2.0 ecotec engine after the end of the Cavalier line. Funny fact, some of the last Cavalier commercial is a guys singing Miss American Pie in the Cavalier Ls Sport. It was a dumb ideas to have a LS and a LS Sport in the name, the only difference is XML Satellite Radio with fancy rim and body frame with a sunroof on the Ls Sport with the same engine, only in the late 2002 Cavalier have a sport option to upgrade to a Ecotec 2.2 L61 to be a much much better engine. And there was a Toyota Cavalier, you can google that one.
There is quite a history of the 2.2 L61 engine too and was developed by Lotus group before being sold to bugatti. www.nytimes.com/1993/08/28/business/company-news-gm-sells-its-lotus-group-to-bugatti.html The Lotus group were the one that developed the engine and here one example of how strong these ecotech were, th-cam.com/video/jnkI9hmAHBY/w-d-xo.html 4cly turbo ecotec vs v8 turbo mustang. It can pull a wheelie on the rear wheel.
They almost did rear wheel drive
Great car !
Man you guys are young 🤪
Can't/won't probably in my lifetime ever see one of these little monsters in Australia.
Yrah i think this was USDM only. USDM-1, JDM-like a million
I loved my 2009 SS T/C. Great value. Especially after adding the GM Stage 1 pack.
rwd circlejerk, it handles amazingly being fwd everyone is such a purist
+Experience it does handle great FOR A FWD car. RWD is just more fun
Straight Pipes. GM did bring it back. And they DID make it RwD. It's called a caddillac ats 2.0t
Exactly! And i luckily own a 6-speed manual :)
“Cavalier” headshake..... exactly
BrightsydeBill I had a wrx and those cars are trash
Lol only as trash as the person behind the wheel 🤷🏻♂️
BrightsydeBill I met a lot of wrx owners and most of them are all trash lol
I just got one here in Poland. Its fast... GM stage1 😁 shame that this vid is so short...
Thats what they have the sky and solstice turbo for
Remember! The Saturn Ion Redline came out before the Cobalt SS. BY ONE FULL YEAR!
Andrew.M.B. It’s also not turbo
should review a Saturn sky redline/ Pontiac solstice gxp its rwd same engine same pcm so i.e launch control and flat foot shifting
I seen a cobalt ss couple weeks ago color was red and I was in my truck soon as the light turn green we both got off the line good but I beat him some how at 60 mph my truck start pulling hard he wasn’t gaining on me but I wonder how I beat a Chevy cobalt SS
There are other variants of the SS, the supercharged SS which makes 205 stock and a NA which makes 170 HP. You prob raced either of these but chances are it was prob the NA model which I don't even know why Chevy designated that an SS car when it only made 20 more horsepower than base 😂
The cobalt had 3) "SS" trims:
05-07 "SS supercharged" 2.0L LSJ engine 205hp
08-10 "SS turbocharged" 2.0L LNF engine 260hp
06 "SS" 2.4L LE5 171hp
Luis Torres oh I see but still my truck has more tq than the SS cobalt
know the opel speedster? same engine and trans on a elise chassis, too bad never come to the north america tho
The trick is that you’ve got to AWD it. That’d be a beast
Russian and Czech guy behind my childhood must want car.... Oh yeah gotta love this
2:32 🤦♂️🤦♂️ Bruhh that's the Solstice GXP/Sky Redline. Everyone forgets haha
How many kilometres until you have to rebuild the turbo?
Alright now I got the garbage dumpster joke...😂
Don't forget, there was also a S/C'd model :-)
Fiesta ST side-eyes
Why do they hate on FWD but love the GTI? is it a brand thing?
It's called the sky redline or solstice gxp
I used to have this on nfs 😂