Why You Wouldn't Beat Multiple Opponents
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2018
- If you believe that you could bet multiple opponents in a fight - think again. Why not? All about that in this Martial Arts Explored episode.
Unfortunately, not everyone who practices martial arts realizes that it's close to impossible, yet even after years of training many still believe that they could easily beat multiple attackers. This belief could be fatal if such a person would actually be attacked by more than one person. To bring clarity to the subject of multiple attackers, I’ve interviewed two self defense experts: Bruno Orozco and Paul Sharp, on whos thoughts this video is mainly based and with their help we will take a look at The Reality of Multiple Attackers.
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This is the last editorial I am making to sum up the knowledge I've gained through this last year. Now on Wednesday I am finally flying to US to start my intensive MMA and BJJ training so much more live footage and interviews are to come. Very excited about that and I'll see you all soon.
totally on point, one of the few videos I completely agree with, nice work on this one
it also helps show why being proficient in footwork and positioning is such a huge part of doing well in sparring or self defence
Good journey and luck. I am interested in your thoughts on my reply.
Have you ever read Miyamoto Musashi's work The Book of Five Rings? Musashi was a legendary swordsman of 16th-17th c. Japan. It's a good read that I think every serious martial artist should read. He describes different fight strategies, many of which you addressed in this video like herding your opponent to a lesser disadvantage for them, greater advantage for you and talks about technical fight dynamics and how you can even apply such philosophies to how you lead your life. Sometimes he's credited with putting into words the path of bushido, especially with his work The Dokkodo, or Way of Walking Alone.
Good luck in your journey.
Martial Arts Journey Ptown is going to be great for you. Oregon is wonderful in my opinion.
I WILL MAKE YOU BREAK OUT OF THAT ILLUSION YOU LIFE IN READ MY COMMENT WISELY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND
WHILE WE LIVE IN THE SAME WORLD WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON LIFE
THE WORLD OF TRUE FIGHTERS CAN DEFEAT ENTIRE ARMIES EVEN IF ARMED HOWEVER THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR EVERYTHING MOST PEOPLE SEE IT IN MOVIES WHICH IS A REPRESANTION OF THINGS THAT DID HAPPEN IN ANCIENT TIMES THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COPY IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NEVER THINKING ABOUT FIGHTING AND FOR MOST ITS A TO HARD LIFE TO PUT SO MUCH TIME IN TRAINING ACTUALLY ITS AN EXHAUSTING LIFESTYLE BUT DONT BE NAIVE AND BELIEVE THERE ARE NO PEOPLES OUT THERE THAT ARENT CAPABLE WHAT YOU SEE IN MOVIES BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT MOVIES ARE INDEED BASED OF REALITY
THE WORLD FROM A NONE FIGHTERS PERSPECTIVE THAT ARE WANNABE FIGHTERS THEY EITHER GO TO A REAL FIGHTING ART GET BEAT UP AND THINK ITS UNEFFECTIVE AND INSTEAD OF ASKING THEMSELFS WHY IT DIDNT WORK THEY PUT THE BLAME ON THE ART INSTEAD ONTO THEMSELFS BECAUSE EVERYTHING WORKS YOU JUST NEED TO BE GOOD ENOUGH OR THEY GO TO SPORTS AND BEAT SOME WEAKLING WITH IT AND FEEL GREAT BUT THIS IS PATHETHIC AND THESE PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE FIGHTERS THEY MIGHT CALL THEMSELFS LIKE THAT OR ARE CALLED BY OTHERS EVEN MORE PATHETHIC INDIVIDUALS THAN THEMSELFS OR EVEN BY THE MEDIA BUT THE TRUTH IS THEY ARE NOT FIGHTERS MADE ALREADY HISTORY WITH DEFEATING ARMIES AND IT WASNT THAT UNCOMMON IN ANCIENT BUT MODERN TIMES BRING THE MOST LAZY PEOPLE OUT IN THE WORLD THAT WANT SHORTCUTS TO BECOME FIGHTERS BUT THERE ARE NOT SHORTCUTS TO LIFE TO BE A TRUE FIGHTER YOU HAVE TO PUT THE WORK OR SO CALLED "GONG FU" TAIWANESE TRANSLATION FOR HARD WORK INTO IT BECAUSE EVEN WITH KUNG FU IF YOU DO NOT FULLFILL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ESSENCE THE HARD WORK YOU CAN CALL IT KUNG FU BUT IT IN THE END IT WILL BE NO WORK AND WITH NO WORK YOU CAN DO THE BEST FIGHTING ART IN THE WORLD IT WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A PATHETHIC HUMAN
I could easily defeat 4 or 5 people so long as they are TH-cam commenters.
Hajajhahaha
hard2hurt You and what troll army?! 😛🤪🤓
Oh, so you say...Then en garde, my friend! Unsheathe your senseless debate rapier!
@@keepmoving1185 me and Practical Combat Martial Arts hahaha.
@@Bladebrother R.I.P.
My first day of martial arts class: When do we dodge bullets?
If you want to watch people dodge a bullet look at games where Wales beat South Africa :-P
If you can dodge traffic, you can dodge the ball 😉
when you're ready, you won't have to.
Right after you jump across to that highrise.
@Some 1 th-cam.com/video/oYl5LkUkehA/w-d-xo.html
It’s not that hard, just press Y to perform a fear takedown, then grapple hook up to conveniently placed gargoyles
This fighting style is called "The Dark Knight"
Don’t forget to use your cape to stun those assholes
Don’t forget to backflip over the fuckers and kick them from behind
That was the first thing came to my mind aftet seeing the title...100 v 1 remember ?🔥
@@jonathanluna4022 Have you ever heard of The Dark Knight ultra fear takedown
There was a scene in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood that stuck with me ever since.
Ezio was chasing an enemy with comrades and he said "Why are you running you coward!?"
And he said "Smart men never stay and fight"
That was insightful due to after catching up with him, we beat the shit out of him.
King Pen what mission is this? Replaying it atm haha
@@waynewayne8419 it was the mission where you meet the prowler character on the online version. He looked like an assassin
And he said
King Pen thanks man
Yet, you can also just defeat multiple opponents. You can.
Martial Arts is about being able to defend yourself in more than the simpliest Situation.
You can win.
Bruce Lee said when asked what to do with multiple attackers: "Run".
in the occasion I had to fight off 3 robbers I just pulled my belt knife and stabbed one. they picked on Lee's advice very fast. police was faster... less than 20 minutes later they were all lined up near a few armed man.
matreyia that makes sense as you want to deal with each one in a one on one to effectively handle the situation
Stones work too. Run works best.
Szarekh the Silent yes. The video does make sense in saying a melee weapon would work best to stave off any would be attackers. However best results is run and regroup your situation if they give chase
A fat Black woman can destroy multiple attackers as long as they are women
I’ve beaten multiple attackers before with ease. Definitely taught those little kids a lesson.
Those girl scouts didn't stand a chance
Holy shit dude! 😂😂😂
@@J0hnHenrySNEEDen Those 90 year old's didn't even touch me
@@sniperfury6025 those 1 year olds were to afraid of my perfected fighting style known as "The Dark Knight"
What grade?
Usually when someone’s about to hit me, a little icon appears over my head and that’s when I counter their attack
Tf is this batman arkham figthing style
Hate to break it to you but you can’t see an icon on your head when you’re in a first person view.
@Simeon Petrov did you eat your cereal or not?
@Simeon Petrov aww man
@@alqaadi9858 he didn't say he could see it did he?
Me who watch alot of martial arts movies:
*"Years of academy training wasted"*
Not really. What the movies got right is mobility and instinct but what they never address is that: if you want to win you have to hit to kill. You don't have to have overwhelming force, but you have to have fear and death on your side. These are the reasons why animals are so dangerous or why men that go to war are traumatized or flee from the enemy.
Me who is used to dying to groups in Dark Souls
Just like the simulations...
John wick is actually somewhat realistic. although some of them are unrealistic, most of them are actually real. You just gotta distinguish between them.
Non sense!: -years wasted in academy instead of watching martial arts movies that are really instructives.
Or - Years wasted in watching movies instead of studying in academy.
?!?!? Your sentence means both...
😂😂😂 I feel like I was one of the few who got that reference.
BTW the hat and apron both look great on you Mrs. Nesbitt
Simply use the powerful martial art of Run-fu.
Ah yes the masterful art by Joseph Joestar
Gun-Fu
Jackie Chan had it almost right in Rumble in the Bronx.
Novelty thief nigerundayoo
Or you can just cough using your kung-flu
RUN! If can’t run, knife, if can’t knife, improv weapons, if can’t improv, fight dirty, if can’t fight dirty, what long series of bad decisions got you here!!!??
😂
Ha ha
Keep Moving playbdead!
@Alambusha Shukla speaking as a small guy who had lots of bullies growing up, but didn't have those bullies after he learned ITF Taekwondo and started fighting back, no, I wouldn't WANT to be in a position with multiple people attacking me. BUT I studied a real system of martial arts, not "combat sports", so when multiple people DID attack me, because they were BULLIES, I knew how to win against them. You can't wrestle multiple people on the ground, so of course the UFC/combat sports people think you can't defend yourself in such a situation. Study a real martial art -- for self defense, not competition -- and you will learn how to do it.
The best martial arts for self defense is HEMA, especially if you carry your weapon with you.
Yes it is not very easy to fit your sword/weapon of your choice with you at all time, but having a weapon with a longer reach and knowing how to utilise it is key in a real situation (unless the opponent has a gun and is pointing you even before you can take out your weapon, but nothing can help you except cooperate if someone got a gun). Plus weapons, especially slashing weapons, carry a big intimidating factor with them and thus just drawing your weapon could put an end to the situation before it could escalate any further.
It is still best to avoid conflict at all costs because it is always risky, but having a close quarter weapon and having trained to use it is probably your best bet if you ever get into a sticky situation
Chuck Norris put it very well:
You can fight a person, if you're good, you can fight two people. But if 3 or more people want to kick your ass, then your ass is kicked.
I'm all for a 1V1 but the moment anyone steps in, I'm grabbing sharp objects
But what about all the youtube comments I just read under the video that mentioned this video is garbage and they personally have won a fight all alone against 5,000 Nazi troopers in big ass tanks with only their fists without even getting scratched, huh?
Ik a guy who knocked out 6 dudes with knives and no it wasnt batman
He didnt use any weapon apart from his fist
Do you understand what this means? Motivation not the number.
The first rule of street fighting: Try not to get into a street fight.
Second rule: No rules.
3 rd rule- DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FIGHT CLUB.
Best way to defend against multiple opponents:
Have extended mags.
Exactly. That's why guns are referred to as force multipliers
@@dustinnoyfba7227 not just guns , any weapon. Even a little thrust with a non sharpened stick hurts if done on the stomach area or so.
Or a cas on radio
@@afinoxi 😂 that wouldn't work
@@afinoxi stabbing someone in the ass is very effective and works on both genders!
Never lose mobility : ✔️
Improvise with the situation's surprises : ✔️
Use people against each-other : ✔️
Jackie Chan : ✔️
Jackie Chan is just a stuntman, let him fight with an entry level UFC Fighter he will loose.
@@azraelfranco4412 jackie chan is a martial artists, with emphasis on art.
@@azraelfranco4412 on the octagon maybe. Real life scenario i doubt.
@@azraelfranco4412 chill out, lol
Syed Murtaza The mugger will be dead because on the street you can’t tapout. A pro fighter in the street becomes a trained killer at that moment.
Me: “I can take all 10 of you!”
My 10 attackers: comes at me all at once instead of taking turns sharing blows
Me: *You weren’t supposed to do that!*
Attackers: we are about to pull what we call a pro gamer move
@@animelvr99 grammer error you were supposed to say call not can't
@@anything8953 thanks. Edited
@@animelvr99 Don't mention it Im just your friendly neighbourhood grammer nazi.
*Wait, that's illegal*
“Why you won’t beat multiple opponents.”
Me: *Pulls out AK* “I’m sorry I thought this was America.”
It's 'Merica not America Haha XD
Thank you for that. I literally laughed out loud
What if they also have guns
*>AK-47*
>Murica.
*laughs in Soviet*
@@petersmythe6462 lol
When I used to practice kick boxing. The technique against multiple attackers was to get away as fast as possible. If you were surrounded, try to make a hole thru the weakest link and get the hell out. If you can't, try to used one of the attackers as human shield against the others, but always try to get out as soon as you can. And, definitely, use anything you can get as a weapon. If you're figthing for your life, anything goes...
Great points
Any. Thing. Goes.
Note: in self defense law multiple attackers is considered sufficient disparity in force to justify a lethal response. Best martial art for multiple opponents is gunfighting.
That's the same strategy that I learned in Hapkido, we used to practice every month, and there was always blood in the practice, because the defender were so stressed that he couldn't take care of his punches and kickings...
I mean, running is always the best defence
The term "to use martial arts only as a defense" as you have mentioned has been misintrepated. What it actually means is that you must not use your martial arts skill to bully or provoke or disturb someone or commit crimes like extortion, robbery, beat up your spouse etc. It does not mean that you must not attack when your life is being threatened. So the term is meant to be metaphorical, not literal. Thank you.
its sad that so many people don't get this
Thank you! But these jerks take it out of context so they can peddle "their system".
Yes. Well said!👍
@@YellowPaint100 True. ☹️
Exactly!
Been in fights with multiple opponents growing up. You learn to hit hard, quick and move. It's possible to overcome multiple opponents but don't expect to come out untouched.
The point he talks about at 3 minutes is exactly what my Wing Chun sifu taught us for grade 10. Using the person for shield so the others cant get to you easily and ALWAYS be able to see everyone. Never have your back to anyone, and try to move for the exit
Ahh. Just like Mr Miyagi from the Karate Kids movies
“The secret to fighting against more than one is to never lose mobility.”
Me: runs away
Important people don't fight on the streets
@@Joe11Blue stupid argument
@@conesinker_4209 who is arguing here?
@@Joe11Blue I meant stupid point
@@conesinker_4209 who asked you?
I was jumped by multiple opponents when I was younger. I had experience with martial arts and street fighting and I can say with 100% confidence... that I got my ass beat and am probably lucky I'm not dead.
This seems to be the only real comment here. I have no doubt that people have done this but reading the comments makes me laugh. It's funny how many Steven Seagals' watched this video.
Btw, I've been jumped too. Was completely drunk and the first punch, which came from my side, sent me to the ground. The rest started kicking me. I would like to claim that maybe if I were not drunk and ready I might have had a chance with 1 or 2, but not 5-6. I was lucky someone stepped in and stopped the fight as they were probably going to kill me. Also, people who jump others tend to be cowards, but they will be as vicious as possible with their friends around.
@@digitalintent My situation is gonna some like movie shit but we all know how dumb young middle and high schoolers are. It was this stupid little turf war bs that our towns used to engage in since long before I was even of born and inadvertantly got sucked into for living on this side of the highway vs that side of the highway. I got cornered in a walk way and was forced up against the wall with multiple people kicking and punching at me. I maybe got one good unconfirmed punch in right before but there was absolutely nothing I could do but curl up in fetal position facing the wall and try to guard my chest and head as I got stomped out. After that they left. Lucky I was just left with only bruises on my back and legs. I have a few friends who faced similar attacks that actually got bones broken and sent them to the hospital. I can say though, as far as I heard, it was never people from my pen town to go into their town to wreak havoc. There was nothing to do in their town as they were a dry township so they would cross that bridge over the highway and squat somewhere aggressively. Granted my incident was in their "territory" but I shouldn't be getting jumped for just going to Dunkin Donuts. Suffice to say, I would highly not recommend getting into a fight like this at all and especially out numbered is even more of a no no.
Roque El Rompe-rocas I’ve beaten 3 guys coming at me before freshman year my friend Isaiah lucky beat up like 7 guys coming at him vid and everything
Digital Intent you are an idiot if you think you can‘t fight 1vs2 or 1v3. You have been to the fitness gym to many times. People on the streets learn to foght aggressivly and hit fast and powerful in the neck or in the chin. No fucking jumping around like a girl and trying to do low kicks and all that girly shit. 3v1 I have fought for my life and I won at the end with many bruises. Once you truly learn how to fuck someone up in the streets you can fuck up 2-3 people the thing is you won‘t learn it from mix martial arts. You gotta punch them all in the neck and in the chin fast because they think you are going to jump around or they are going to manhandle you. You gotta be quick and powerful neck hits + chin hits and you win. No fucking gut hits and low kicks and all this shit. Quick + Powerful street style is the only way to win. I have been there and I have seen that shit I have known a dude he could fight 3 people easily been to prison over 22 years. Fought in there almost everyday with murderes, rapists, pedophiles, scammers, boxers. That shit comes from street experience no gym is going to show you since it‘s not their style to fight off 2-3 opponents
I got jumped by at least 7 people crowding me at a party in a corner. I can handle 1 or 2, not 7. I never threw a punch bc I knew it wouldn't end good against those numbers. I regret not being more aggressive before the numbers grew. Would've saved me a broken jaw.
"The key is to never lose mobility..."
Translation: "Run you fool!"
My grandfather once offhandidly told me that when he was young he once fought off 6 dudes. I never believed him.
About a year before he died I was visiting my great uncle, brother of his, and he told me my grandfather was the best boxer in his city when he was young, and that it was decided that he should quit boxing and pursue a more 'decent' lifestyle after some dudes ambushed and shot him. He showed me pictures of my grandfather in the ring, that was a surprise for me, I had never heard about that side of my grandfather in my then 25 years of life.
I asked my grandfather about it. He told me that it was true about the short boxing career he had but nothing else.
6 months later my grandfather was battling cancer and it was my turn to take care of him for the night. So he and I talked for hours and he told me the complete story about his youth, early boxing career, and the troubles he faced. Including the time he fough off 6 dudes. He told me that the secret was to enrage yourself and be like a tiger. To hit really fast and move really fast. After he fought off those dudes they came back the next day and shot him in the chest. But he survived. He even showed me the bullet wound and the bullet. Yes, he still had the bullet inside of him. It was a round small ball you could feel if you pushed your fingers to the left side of his chest. So suddently the story became real for me and totally believable.
So all in all , this video and the advices it gives, reminds me alot of what my grandfather told me and gives a more detailed explanation of what he meant about ''being like a tiger'.
This is also something that also speaks about the conduct of professional martial artists. It's an unspoken rule/advice to not start fights with people even if you can win. Because people are nasty and like to hold grudges. You never know when that one or two chuckleheads you put to the ground will one day come from a street corner with a crowbar to your skull.
he survived?
Dude your grandpa sounds like he was a total bad ass back in his day....I hope he fought the cancer fight as hard as he fought those 6 dudes....
@@dgbd9030 many people survived gunshots, and is not that weird that medics have to lesve things inside because they're in dangerous places. My father had a little piece of glass under his skin for like 10 years now that you can touch through his skin, the medics didn't want to remove it because it's close to a nerve and it's dangerous
@@goddamndoor ... i know human's can survive gun shots my father was a battle soldier in Israel he have a lot of scars on him. i talked about the cancer. (btw my father had a cancer in the blood when I was 4 or 5)
"The secret of fighting against more than one is to never lose mobility"
Hell yeah, years of tanking mobs in mmorpg have prepared me for this
The third party view helps to make sure nobody gets behind you.
*cough* *cough*
Iruna Online
That sentence reminded me of Ninja Gaiden. Yes, you can fight multiple opponents at once. But you better block, evade and jump around unpredictably as much as possible or they'll stuff so many explosive shurikens in your butt you look like a hedgehog.
@@SaHaRaSquad Don't fret about the appearance. It's only temporary.
Actually true though. some mmorpgs are great at displaying how fucked you are if you get surrounded.
As someone who ended up on the wrong end of an 8 vs 1 I tell you this: you can't "win" the fight but you can deal and tank enough damages to make them reconsider. Cost me an orbital bone and some nasty cuts but they eventually gave up when two of them were lying unconscious on the ground and I was still swinging and blasting elbows or knees at every man willing to get close. Martial arts saved my life that night.
Bullshit
I fought 3 guys alone they were our deputy chief ministers PSO (personal security guard) all three ran away after I beat the shit out of them...
@@josevanreyes
Well what a constructive reply we have there ^^
Okay Dwight.
Did they use bats or any objects and is ur orbital bone recovered,did u target certain spots when u were hiting them and also what did u do to get into this situation?
Having actually fought multiple opponents I can tell you it IS possible, It requires extreme aggression.
And a lot of heart
And good protection in the balls
I was looking for this comment. It is actually possible. I’ve fought multiple people several times in my life. However none of them were skilled fighters. I can’t imagine having multiple skilled trained fighters coming at me. Don’t think I could handle that
@@user-ui4cu6fy4i My coach used to made me do that when I was preparing for a competition. He made me stand in the middle of the gym and would asign numbers to others advanced partners. He then would shout a number and that person started fighting with me, but each minute he would either change the number so my oponent was replaced or send a new fighter against me.
I ended up concluding that 2 was the maximum number I could defeat, and 3 the maximum number I could handle. The only strategy that worked of all the ones I tried was a fast offensive with high mobility.
However, when I faced more than 3 all my scapes and swerves were blocked by someone and I couldn't avoid end up surrounded in a closed space. More than 3 proved to be overwhelming, at least for me.
@@user-ui4cu6fy4i I remember a video on Reddit or TH-cam where one guy just kicks 2 peoples asses with one swift punch for each person
Ah, I see. You're learned of the Joestar Secret Technique.
qwertyMrJINX Nice pic
@@wheelman1324 Nice
A fellow fan of culture I see
Luv the thumbnail
You're learned of
yea
When you're a healthy adult and your multiple attackers are kindergarten kids, or maybe a group of elders with stroke, you will stand victorious with your unarmed fighting.
You have no soul bro 😆!
@@gnomeking6568 I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Different stories if they are trained with ar fu.
A group of elders with *stroke* wanna attack you why?
@@bleh6339 I dunno, theoretically speaking, everything is possible, maybe they think you're the one who responsible for all of their sickness? 😁
Rurouni Kenshin made the same point in one of its episodes: Run, so the fastest opponent leaves the rest behind, then quickly deal with that one. Rinse and repeat.
I agree from before
While this works in theory, it wouldn't actually work in practice.
You, and your fast opponent would have to be so much faster than the rest of your opponents, that you'd literally have to be sprinting for an extended period of time to make enough distance between the rest of the pack. That would also mean that after that first person, everyone else is also relatively similar in speed, so you'd have a mob on your heels.
Also how many times do you think you can actually sprint between locations, and then still have enough energy left over to really fight it out with someone? Then you're just gonna do it again?
The only way this has any chance of working is if you have a weapon - a force multiplier. If you don't, then you're just going to die tired.
@@daethe True. The part about funneling your opponents in a narrow passage makes more sense.
You need to be pretty fit for this method
S1 R1 Thats why Kenshin didn’t want Yahiko to even engage- Kenshi fought in war and still has to be fit to not die, he’s been fighting multiple people at once for the better part of 13-14 years that’s longer than Yahiko had been alive
as a Karaté Black belt, it's 100% true, just rewatch the "Ip Man 10 vs 1 scene", and look the Japeneses one by one, they are lining up and are terribly slow/bad
Still a great fictional action scene
@@clevernamerighthere9240 choreography
I'm a brown belt, and yeah, it's nigh impossible. Maybe you could beat two or three opponents if they have no prior fighting experience or didn't train martial arts. Four guys (or even 3) of your age even without skill are too much.
Retarded Duck, I personally have taken out about 30-40 enemies alone at once. Its not impossible but you need have some real skill to pull it off. Hoping to have the same dream tonight.
@@clevernamerighthere9240 you also call your machine gun "skill"? What a coincidence!
"Never lose mobility and improvise"
Jackie Chan: cowabonga it is!
Rule of Thumb - NEVER start a war you can not end.
@Kaiser Wilhelm II LOL
I'm always a little sceptical when people say to beat multiple attackers you need to take them out quick by hitting the throat, groin, etc. These targets are generally hard enough to hit in a one on one fight and having additional opponents typically limits your options (or at least it does in the re-enactment battles I've participated in) and I'm bold enough to suggest that if you can't land an attack one on one you're going to struggle to land that attack against multiple opponents.
th-cam.com/video/UP62Wmwv6EM/w-d-xo.html
@@user-ck9jk5dw9h That video is not a good example of multiple attacker defense.
The tip of the day is to just hit the guy with whatever technique you know without specifically targeting areas. The point is to get the guy to stop for a moment for you to run.
It's actually better to hit the liver, knee or temple. You want to incapacitate your opponent not cause them pain. The throat, nose an groin can work but it is not guaranteed. Breaking their knee or hitting the liver will cause them to collapse regardless of drugs or will power.
@@tylerrobbins8311 these spots is hard to target when you are literally being chased by 5 guys or more! No time to even chose where to hit so why bother?
I want to rewatch The Transporter now: most of the fights i remember from it seemed to follow a "make advantage of your environment"
Statham fights people in narrow places and when he can't he dipped himself in motor oil to not get grabbed
The "slippery fight" as I call it , was amazing!
Great video, I think all of your points are spot on! I do think one thing you missed is that a master at Judo throws can put someone on the ground very hard in less than four seconds. That would work with similar effectiveness as a punch (although not quite as fast and one would have to be very careful to not expose themselves). The other technique that might be effective against multiple attackers is put one in a choke hold and hold him as a shield. Threaten to kill him if the group does not yield. I think the effectiveness will really depend on who the attackers are and what mood they are in.
You can’t beat 10 but I seen 3-4 attacker’s get their ass handed to by a single guy in brawling
Right, like even video evidence of some crazy ppl who are drunk or on drugs and fending off multiple police officers, or at least, successfully resisting arrest from more than one officer
It really depends on the attackers and the situation. Sometimes the attackers just don't have that will power to fight and when they start getting hit they back off. But if a crowd of three people or more are determined they can over come anyone that isn't Deontay wilder.
@@yaboiyaboy9980 very true , you stole my words
I would say by experience through a friend that 3 are the limit. 4 is too much unless at some point they chicken out, which they normally don't.
4 is feasible at once. Honestly their can be a lot more than 4, It really depends on a lot of factors: how well you can isolate each individual attacker, if you’re able to limit how many are coming at you at once (although not entirely realistic; similar to the hallway seen in old boy), how much pain tolerance the individuals involved have, relative skill of the attackers vs the one they’re attacking; and nobody likes to admit this but honestly most importantly, the relative size, strength, and athleticism of the person who’s being attacked vs the attackers. If you’re attacking someone who’s big and strong it’s a lot harder to hurt them and theoretically their attacks will do more damage, nobody wants to admit that point.
Survive: yes
Be victorious over: no
There is no victory in DEATH
Survival isn’t my goal...🤔
leave victory to manga and comics ^^ reality isn't that sweet in the end ^^
@@WastedTalent83
victory
/ˈvɪkt(ə)ri/
noun
an act of defeating an enemy or opponent in a battle, game, or other competition.
When you've lost a battle, your survival is entirely up to your opponent.
The difficulty with ending a streetfight early (hitting quickly and hard before the fight really begins) is that even if you are being threatened but you strike first, even if it is a larger opponent , you could be charged with aggression, when your only intent was self-preservation. In a streetfight, it takes a lot of foresight and judgment that you can’t really train for.
This opened my eyes to the real dangers of mugging. Thank you so much
I can only speak for myself but I think it's almost impossible to deal with multiple attackers. I have a lot of Martial arts training, I am a kickboxing coach and I used to own an MMA gym. Years ago when I was much younger and stronger than I am now at 55 years old, I was confronted by three drunk assholes while leaving a sports bar, I was with my wife and I had no illusions of my chances against 3 guys so I tried to walk away and as I did one of them tried to hit me so I hit him, hard and knocked him out, at that point the other 2 beat the hell out of me and the third guy I knocked out woke up pissed off and joined in. I tried to fight back and protect my wife who was trying to help me but was only getting in the way.
When the police came there were 3 of them and one of me so the cop arrested me, but he saw through their bullshit and drove around the corner
and let me go, telling me to go straight to the hospital. I got 12 stitches over my right eye and was bad bruised up for about 10 days but I feel lucky I did not get brain damage. No martial art can prepare you for this kind of situation, but my training did help me with movement and slipping punches and I knew not to go down or it would have been much worse. My advise is to avoid these situations at all cost, a bruised ego is much better than brain damage, just walk away.
why does this not have more upvotes? maybe not many people understand that this is a realistic depiction of what happens instead of a movie outcome
Ps did your wife get hit at all in the encounter?
If the police come and they have 3 people that say you started it, and your saying they started it, the police believe the 3, not the one. The officer was a nice guy and he could tell what happened so he put me in the car, told my wife to follow him and we went around the corner and he let me go with my wife, I was beaten up pretty badly and needed to go to the hospital.
My wife got pushed and I tried my best to get her to stay back, I don't think she got hit to their credit, but they worked me over pretty good, I had to go to the emergency room, I was so bad that they took me straight in so I did not have to wait at all. It was not a pleasant experience at all, I would not have fought if the first guy did not swing at me but he did so I reacted and I paid the price. I would advise just waking away, even if your pride is bruised, they cracked my jaw too and to this day it hurts if I go to the dentist I can't hold it open for very long before I have to close it.
-joediffy its not almost impossible. others have done it, even without training. there are youtube videos of people surviving said encounters and even winning them. its extremely difficult to do and if you have 0 training in that area (as most martial arts dont train realistic multiple attackers) then yea it is impossible. but training in that area, as well as carrying weapons on you really makes a huge difference in survivability. most people arent going to want to jump you after you shot their friend in the head.
@@nuclearwaste2062 as i said in my comment, I can only speak for myself, but i would be willing to bet that 95 out of 100 time when one person has to face 3 attackers, the single guy would loose. Has it ever happened to you? I had no weapon, I only had my hands and feet and i thought i did as well as could be expected because they swarmed me all at the same time, it was not like a movie, they did not come at me one at a time. Im sure there are people like a pro MMA fighter or pro boxer that could have won, i had been training for years at that point but i was not a pro fighter. Remember that only 4 to 5 percent of the population train, so most will loose.
I like how the Bobby Hill method is mentioned here.
"That's my purse! I don't know you! *kick to the genitals*
I think the movie Unleashed was a perfect example of fighting multiple attackers.
Fun fact!
The actor in Ip Man, Donnie Yen, once sent 8 men into hospital for harrassing his girlfriend.
It's amazing to see your intellectual evolution over time. It's rare to meet someone who's honest about their mistakes and genuinely interested in improving themselves, even at the cost of their egos. Seeing so many proponents of fake and untested martial arts who're simply ideologically unbending, even in the face of evidence, you truly are a rare bird.
You have my respect for that.
Indeed. I feel like the reason there are some many fake martial artists is that they sunk years into their life into a martial art before the 90s exposed it as ineffective. Human nature is such that most people double down on their mistake and keep pretending nothing has changed. People who adjust to the facts are surprisingly rare.
Because the ego, the self is illusory
Thnx for breaking my fantasy I will train even harder and got motivation due to u thnx
Great video, thank you for your effort.
how to beat multiple attackers: Use a gun that fires multiple bullets
Duck foot pistol
It can have on bullet and still scare the rest away by shooting one
Your average user same as mutually assured destruction. When everyone has nukes but you, you’re no longer sitting at the table to play. As they say, don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.
ah yes the quickstrike method
@Your average user Fair point but if you pulled your gun first you got a chance to shoot them before they even aim at you though that depends on many things like what gun you got, how many people there are and your distance between the attackers
I used to think the same but after my Dim Mak training, i not only survived but I crippled 40 Uzi wielding ninjas.
You beat 40 GI Joe Snake Eyes?
@@stefanurquelle7736 Nobody beats Snake Eyes........ NOBODY!!!
Thank You for Sharing, @martialartsjourney! This is a very important topic, and your handling of it, mixing optimism with reality, is very professional.
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this is the best advice I've ever heard in my life regarding this situation. Thank you
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Best way to beat multiple attackers: don’t let them know you can perform any kind of martial arts. Most bullies don’t know how to fight as it is, so surprise the hell out of them. 😁
This is very true
Not as ez as it sounds especially the fact that u dont know their power lvl... It could be over 9000!
Not true. This is like not letting someone know you have a gun. Best way to fight multiple attackers is to not fight multiple attacker. Where I went to school, that idea that most bullies don't actually know how to fight is false, most people knew how to fight, at least the basics was a given. With multiple people if they don't think you can fight, they are probably going to engage and at that point they are all attacking you. On the opposite spectrum, letting your attackers know that you're not only able to fight but you're willing to really hurt someone (breaking bones, gauging eyes, slamming heads against a wall) has the potential to deter conflict. People fight in groups for the security of having someone at their back so there's less risk of getting hurt that bad. If you can make any of them believe that there's a serious chance that they can really get hurt they might hesitate. Confidence can do a lot.
@@neuroinsect1944 I think in some cases he could be right. If there's like three guys harassing you, and only one immediately jumps in and is taken by surprise; there could be a chance that the other two would be intimidated enough to back off. Although I doubt you could bank on it.
Take down the biggest opponent first and in devastating fashion. Hopefully you'll scare the others away.
The few times I've gotten into a situation with multiple attackers, it was tense but not as complicated as you think it is. Perhaps we are over thinking what will actually happen with multiple attackers, groups and crowds of people are not that intelligent when acting together.
The only thing that really agrees with my personal experience and your theory is that a person needs to be open to deploy whatever response fits the situation. I've attacked the first attacker, I've done ikkyo in response to an attack, I preempted an attack with a verbal threat, and I've also used my own weapon as a pre emptive threat without using it.
The point is, you don't know what's going to happen, and no amount of training will tell you what will happen. Not even the "real self defense" instructors. It's often misleading when saying one is real and one is not. The truth is, no one knows until it happens. I agree that conceptually that aikido randori is a good theoretical starting point. But you have to expect the unexpected and be decisive in your action once you move.
I live in Texas, so my reality is a gun fight. lol. For real, road rage or bar fights usually end up with a gun fight. So no martial art, MMA or TMA, is going to prepare you for being shot at. It's all a wash at that point, and you'll need other training. Like how to shoot a gun during stress environments. Even then, it's a very high risk situation. Good luck!
Do bar fight s usually end up with a gun fight in Texas?? Really? In most cases?
@@LMR72 for sure, the rates of gun violence are much higher. It's not uncommon to hear in the news that a bar fight spilled out into the street where someone was shot dead or in critical condition. We're not even worried about fist fights....lol.
Sounds great
Lars M. Rimol it really is. It’s a good equalizer for idiots. Far less hooligans starting fights when you know there’s consequences.
I see a lot of problems in using a gun (presumably a pistol?) for self defence, not least of which is where is it located on your body/how long does it take to reach for, unholster, aim and accurately fire a weapon vs someone who has you within punching or stabbing range, what kind of weapon retention training is done to make sure you/your family dont end up shot or abducted using your own weapon, how often and easy is it to train these skills so that they remain sharp enough to be useful, at what point in a situation do decide you want to draw a loaded weapon on someone and escalate it to the highest possible stakes it can go, trained police usually hit a person with one in five bullets so are you ready to take responsibility for potentially hitting someones child or loved one with any of those other four stray bullets and ruining another bystanders life?
There are a lot of considerations
Movie martial artists: (Easily beats all 10 opponents)
*_Real life Martial artists: (Runs when there are multiple opponents against him/her)_*
@Shaman Xeed Your pfp might not be anime, but it seriously isn't much better either. So you should shut up.
Thanks for the advice sir
I remember watching a Russian football hooligan on tv. He said that kicking is a bad idea, you'll fall down.
It depends on how good you are at it. Kicks have more reach, more power and are less expected, a good kick can knock out a person. But you have to be good at kicking, and be quick and ruthless.
Not all kicks are bad. I definitely do not advise high and mid roundhouse kicks because theyre easily caught. But lowkicks, teeps, oblique kicks are all fine in my book
This is a good point especially for people like me who can defend themselves but havent spent years perfecting kicking. Im not even clumsy and I can see me stumbling in a scramble like getting jumped.
@@de20
As a muay thai fighter I have to say good kicks are far from easy to catch, if someone with little experience try to grab my roundhouse kick he will get nothing but a cracked rib. Now if you aren't train to kick, never use them because it requires a good balance that you only acquire through a long training.
@@51dodoc im an amateur MT fighter who regularly trained under and sparred with nong o
Yea sure you can do heaps of damage against someone with no experience on kicks, but a cracked rib isnt going to stop someone high on adrenalin whos out to hurt you. If he has just the slightest bit of a decent reaction speed and body coordination, he'll be able to catch it somehow, throw you to the ground and from there you risk losing a ground fight
Great boxer have little problem knocking out street toughs I know this from watching great boxers in my neighborhood of Bed- stuy brooklyn knocking out two, three or even four street toughs at a time. This style of boxing is known as 52 blocks boxing.
Rokas I hope you been skipping rope and studying great boxers.
Lannel Bishop bed stuy! I almost got in a fight there the other day against an unarmed mugger who was larger than me. I knew mma (grappling and muay thai) so i was honestly just laughing. His friend was far enough for me to cripple kick his leg a few times and make a run, but i ended up just trying to befriend him and gave him quarters cause the dude was hilariously out of control and i couldn’t even take the mugging seriously.
Im a small weak looking guy who’s lean as fuck underneath the clothes. I can break baseball bats with my shins and can grapple decently against heavy weight grapplers ( i lose 8/10 times with heavy weights but thats good odds considering its with actual grapplers and I can even out grapple a heavy weight who sucks without my hands). If you’re a criminal, you best be in shape because you’re gonna get into lotsss of fights. I put so many hours into getting prepared for these moments specifically. I guess that makes me petty.These fuckers won’t even see it coming.
Grappling will get you killed in a fight with multiple opponents. Trained boxers hit harder than any martial artist. Trained boxers know many techniques you don’t see in the ring including head butting and eye poking. 52 blockers know how to make wing chun effective. I studied martial arts off and on for forty years and I am of Seido Juku and I wouldn’t want to fight a 52 blocker other than life of death and I have quite a bit of judo.
Dude nobody asked about your street fight. Go brag somewhere else.
Lannel Bishop no a muay thai kick (2.3k lbs)from a pro is harder than Tysons punch (1.4k lbs) , plus its bigger area and they are also used in real combat and can cover distance better. Go to a muay thai gym this week and either ask to get kicked lightly or touch one of their shins. Its crazier than boxing. Boxing is second on the list. Boxers dont deliberately make their bones harder. Thai fighters do. Google it and/or go to a gym and live it first hand. I’m no proof.
Everything said in this video is all very true, and I congratulate you for wanting to expand your martial arts knowledge in learning other systems as bjj and mma.
"No matter how many of you guys there are, i will woop your ass, thats what i have been doing for many years"
-My Kindergarden Teacher
Oldboy did this real well. The hero and the attackers are confined to a narrow hallway, the hero is using a weapon and he actually gets hurt
@Silent Psykosis Yeah, but that guy died in the end. Oldboy lived. Course, he had the strongest weapon of all: plot armor
As the anime Samurai X said:
"Against multiple enemies it's best to run away, if you can't flee then remember each individual has it's own running speed thus each giving you a small moment to take down one before another comes."
Thank you,, YES! YESSS! YES! I have tried it with my friends and it actually works!
This was a bitter pill to swallow, but thank you for the information.
I agree with this one. I believe the best form of self-defense is staying out of trouble and not pissing people off to begin with. You know, resolving conflicts peacefully before they escalate into a violent confrontation.
This is one of the many drawbacks of watching too many Kung Fu movies.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I actually did hold off three assailants using my TKD skills, but I had the advantage of being stronger than any one of them. On the positive side, I was indeed able to keep on my feet and keep moving them into each other's path. On the negative side, without thinking, I fought very sportsmanlike, hitting above the belt and pulling my punches.vi was lucky that they were hoping for a quick win, and finding me heavy going, they left muttering (I assume) the Cantonese equivalent of "it's not worth it'. Had they been really tough and mean, I'd probably have lost.
That scene from Ip Man 1 still looks so badass. I can feel the intensity coming from Ip Man himself. The way he played those 10 Japanese Black Belt. Just damn.....
It never did anything for me since I never feel like Ip Man is in any danger. Sure he is suppose to be a badass but he takes 1 hit in the entire movie of I recall.
2 of my friends and myself defended ourselves successfully against about a 25 -28 person gang attack. One friend was a student of Hung Gar, the other a student of 52 Blocks, and myself a student of Shotokan Karate. The key to our successful defense was keeping our backs to the wall, so the gang couldn't attack us from behind.
Bro I wanted to believe but you've destroyed my dreams
Better your dreams destroyed than your life
If your life's biggest dream is to beat up multiple people then you don't have any dreams that are worthwhile.
The best martial arts to fight multiple opponents: Parkour
Choose your battle
This! Should be screened in every martial art club.
Came across this. BJJ guy. I agree very much with this. When I played football, I was one of the big guys, and we did this drill where everyone is in a big circle with one person in the middle. The coach points to a person, and they try to tackle the guy in the middle. The coach knew I would fare better than the smaller guys, so he was sending them at me quickly. First guy, down easily... pivot to next person off to the side, down and a bit off-balance at the angle... boom -- guy from my left side hits me and staggers me... then the coup de grace, guy from directly in back of me takes me down hard. I get up... blam, on the ground... get up... repeat until I'm lying on my back gasping for air. That taught me that no matter how badass you are, you don't want to engage multiple threats.
I was actually looking for a video on movement using a firearm against multiple attackers having firearms. I don't think many people caught this, but the Punisher executes this awesome sequence of foot movement just in about a 6 foot diameter circle designed to delay the threats' ability to get aim while he just takes them down one at a time. If anyone knows more about that kind of training, please let me know. I'm just blown away at how effective that tactic probably is.
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This seems fair - Did a bit of multiple opponents with limited contact in Krav Maga. Realistic options are limited, and are pretty much as described.
As a survivor of RL attacks of 5 vs 1 back in Jr. High school this is all amazingly good information.
I was attacked while in school by 5 kids that bullied me for over 2 years straight.
Every day they would attack me by trying to overwhelm me and get me down into the floor and nearly kick me to death.
My father ended up putting me into Kung Fu and I had a great instructor that told me the truth right from the start your going to lose if you have to fight against those numbers.
So he said simply first try and avoid and escape, if not possible find who you can punch to make an escape.
If escape is impossible then expect to lose, but make them regret ever trying to harm you.
At first it sucked for over a year, but over time I got better I learned how to predict their moves and I learned how to block what areas were vital.
Then I started breaking bones countering and yes I lost ALOT of the fights but every broken bone I gave them I counted as a victory.
Long story short it all ended one day in the men's bathroom.
I was snuck up on by them and had my face rammed into a cement wall 3 times and had my nose shattered!
Then I was thrown down to the floor and had a switch blade aimed at my heart! I was lucky my trainning from King Fu had taught me to block blades.
So I attempted the same move I had done in practice a thousand times and managed it...but it had stabbed into the back side of my hand!
That was when I took advantage of his shock that I did that and grabbed his arm pinned it under my knee and then shattered it making sure his knife was controlled and unusable.
It happend so quick I had not noticed the blade cut out of my hand and that I was bleeding heavily from a chunk of skin missing from my hand.
That was when his friends all decided to start kicking me. But I knew if I released the leaders arm with the knife I would be dead so I kept him pinned and accepted the blows and screamed for help.
At that moment luck was on my side and the freaking principle walked in!!
The leader was expelled the kids friends all given suspensions and after that the leader as far as I knew never used his arm again.
My nose was flat shattered and required 2 surgeries to fix it. Which I couldn't afford nor my parents untill 13 years later.
I self stiched my own hands flesh back on because I was taught how by my mother.
I had several bruses all over my entire body, but nothing else was broken since I blocked my vitals.
All in all I survived and this man's video is a 100% accurate. If your in a position with multiple attackers RUN!
Excellent.
I don't know why but this made me think about the old SNL sketch with the group of guys who sat around and plotted the best way to attack the hero one at a time so that he could beat them up.
attacker comes up at me
me: gimme a moment, I just need to change into my gear and put my hand-wraps on
Where playing Doom Eternal at the hardest difficulty actually helps you in an IRL situation
The key to survive a fight with multiple attackers is hit and run tactics. That's the closest you get. Pacing your opponent so that you only have to face one at a time and blocking.
Never let yourslef be surrounded.
And this is almost impossible to do if you fight against other fighters.
Fighing multiple attackers who only rely on numbers because they don't know how to fight is very much possible. Or am I just so very lucky to witness it multiple times now.
Experience is a key factor to most martial arts arguments.
Most haven't experienced their martial arts working so they think it's impossible or just not good.
You're video offers great points.I have studied Kung Fu San Soo for 10 years now and the entirety of the art is focused on multiple attacker based street fighting. In San Soo every point you made is addressed and reinforced. I will say that it is difficult for any art that is designed to actually hurt people to pressure test due to hurting your sparing partner. BJJ is able to pressure test because they focus on submissions as opposed to actually harming an individual. In the 60s and 70s when martial arts was taking off in American society people went to bars or rough parts of town to try out their skills. Due to mass popularity in lawsuits nowadays it's tough to go out and get into street fights without incurring major legal/criminal consequences.
my experience in krav did a great job at simulating multiple opponents... though my teacher made it clear that krav is not a martial art but a self defense system... which i agree with
Fighting two was sometimes easier then fighting one so long as you don’t go down. They are worried about hitting each other where as your just going for it and hitting anything that moves nearby. It’s probably best to just keep fit and be able to run from situations of you need to. Being nimble, fast and mobile with decent stamina along with the adrenaline rush should get you away from most people
I attended a kung fu school in NYC for a few years and fighting multiple attackers was indeed an important part of training (typically 2 against 1). I was surprised to hear your statement that few martial arts address the question of multiple attackers. Perhaps you are right and I just got lucky, however it seems like very valuable training to me. Obviously immediate escape is the best choice but that's not always possible
Thank u for sharing the contents in this video. Brings u back to reality. In a real fight, technique is usually ALL out the window. Just sayin'.
In the 1980's while walking around my Memphis hood I was attacked and while in fight or flight I was able to fight them off using some kind of crossing there arms and making them hit each other there were more than 5 of them it felt like I was in a dream no shyness no pain or injuries not even later and I didn't have to run from them one of them called out that they were just playing and stoped attacking me, but in the project them going around and beating up people is how they played. All of them were downed some upside down in the bushes that state of mind has helped me many times in violent and dangerous times with no injuries it's been a while but I've always loved my fight or fight mode there were lots of tough guys back then so far I'm still undefeated though as a good person I do try to avoid wrongful people. I liked the rage but liked the smooth quickness I felt in fight or flight more
Honestly, I think the most important thing is to have around double or more the combined power level of the attackers.
If one squats 225, and another squats 315, then you should squat 540+ to reasonably assume you can take them both.
Not an exact science, but it's a starting point. You're going to need stamina to finish both of them too, unless you can one-shot them. Last but not least, there's skill.... but I still think general power level is probably the bigger factor up to a point.
A gun still works best lol.
It really depends on the attackers. If you are facing two meatheads that have never taken a punch, then yes it's very possible that your punches will surprise them and they will back off even if they are stronger than you. But if they are determined to beat you it will be almost impossible no matter how strong you are. You could be beating one guys face in and the other guy will just jump on your back and go for the choke hold... And then while you try to stop the choke his friend start punching you in the stomach and the face.
So it's very situational. Sometimes you can take on 20 guys if you surprise them and they are a bunch of weaklings. But if you take that out of that equation and just assume that even two people really want to kill you and will not stop unless you knock them out first, your not going to win unless you are a serious badass
Khechari pretty much, if a little man was to plan to take down a a guy twice or three and half the size of his, well you already know who has more mass power, so it’s like a David and Goliath situation, but what If the little man had some fighting training experience? It really depends, but we’re talking about a life and death situation, not friendly competition
Oh and it would come in handy knowing what weak points to hit
@@Fernando-rw6vz Hm, well I didn't really say 'size', but size is often related anyway.
Strength to weight ratios can't be underestimated though either.
I'm not saying skill isn't important, I'm just saying I'd look at maximizing athleticism FIRST, and skill second.
0:36 what a way to go
Which reminds me: Combat involves more than just bullets and fists. The Mind is very important. Thank you for this eye-opening video. :)
Me: against 10 attackers
Also me: attacks one of them who was about to attack me
The other ten: o-o
and then everyone clapped
The other ten: o-o
If you don't run after that.
The other ten a few moments later: HRREVBWOFR EH CJHBBEIIEBF KILL THE BASTARD WEWEJFBI3EYFBIEJWNDIKDUBWIDBWEDH
@@MrGhostTheBigRoast HIS CHEEKS
Also you: can't do math to save your life
I’ve been attacked by two people at once and “won” that fight. But I would never engage 2 or more at once willingly.
Two guys ran up, split, and swung at me from both my left and right. I dropped and rolled forward and did a 180 out of the roll so I could see them. They apparently hit each other while I did this... but was kinda rolling on the ground so I didn’t see it too well.
They then tried to surround me again. This was in an open parking lot, I kept moving so that our position made a straight line (making sure that one of them was in between me and the one furthest away).
Eventually I saw an opening for a side kick while they were lined up. So, I hit the one closest to me as hard as I could pushing him back towards the other. My plan to push one into the other didn’t happen, but the other one had to move out the way. Which is when I ran towards some benches and jumped over the bench putting the bench between me and them.
2nd guy jumped the bench after I did while the 1st guy ran around it, so I side stepped the bench and pushed 2nd guy (while he was airborne) into the 1st guy, then stepped forward with a hard side kick to the 2nd guy as he was colliding with the 1st guy. And I saw a large stick on the ground out the corner of my eye, so I went for the stick as they were falling.
As they’re getting up, I whacked one of them (don’t remember which) with the stick as hard as I could in the ribs, then moved back to the other side of the bench to put it between me and them again. That’s when they left.
I was lucky they weren’t terribly smart and didn’t really know how to fight too well. Also that I found that stick.
The secret to fighting even ONE attacker is to never lose mobility. Movement and footwork is everything.
You’re right about momentum.
Boxing is best for multiple attackers
mpforeverunlimited I've studied Aikido, Judo and now ITF Taekwondo. Having said that in the early 70's while in the Navy a ship mate of mine who had been boxing since he was 12 got into a fight. I was with him when the fight started and he took on 2 guys. These guys couldn't touch him. He hit them so many times and at one point knock one of them through a plate glass window. That guy ended up with multiple injury's and well over 100 stitches. I never forgot that fight and I have a very healthy respect for boxing as that I've seen it in action. Best
John Kennedy How big was your friend and his attackers if you don’t mind me asking?
My Hero Academia This is back in the early 70's if memory serves he as about 5' 7" medium build. Attacker 1 was the same approximate hight but a thinner build. Attached 2 was about 6' tall heavy set. At that time I knew nothing about boxing or martial arts. Now I know that he was slipping punches and all the good stuff that boxers do. I hope that helps. Best
Fought a lot when I was younger. I was a finisher, not a starter. 2 fights were 1v1. All others were 3v1 and up to 7v1. Never lost. In fact, ended up chasing the 7 down the street. Minimal martial Arts training and wrestled for a long time. The strategies explained are accurate. You cant stop for a second and have to be very aware of your surroundings. Hit the ground twice in the group and always took someone down with me, rolled and used them as a block to gain position. I did get hit quite a bit, but they were calculated. Taking a loss to take advantage. If you can, take the small guy first and use him as a ram into the bigger guys. It's not easy to catch a grown man, even the small ones. It delays advances. Juking and backpeddling are essential. Know how to dodge a punch and use the opposer's momentum, either to incapacitate or to move them into the next guy. Lastly, if you get enraged when you get hit, you will lose. You need to get calmer. You need to be able to read and react. Rage and anger make mistakes. If you are one of the few that get more calm when hit, you probably notice everything slows down around you. It's a rare trait and it definitely saved my life. Also, don't fight. It's not worth it. Never started one. Ever.
Cool story kid.
Wow, that topic was adressed in Karate class twice, where it was shown, how different sports from self defence are. That's quite an interesting topic ^^
Regarding the "Run-away" concept. I've always been a big fan of fighting Anime. And one of my favorite series always was the Virtua Fighter adaptation. Because, even if the protagonist was so strong and fast (besides otherwose being really goofy and stuff, but hey that's relatable protag for you:D) when he started teaching a bullied boy, the first thing he taught him was not hitting techniques or grapples, but how to run fast and wide. And this was so awesome. It's not just about 'hitting really hard'. It's about protecting your life. Not your ego. They also did a, what I thought, great comparison. The hotheaded female lead asked, why the protag does not teach the kid striking and kicking, to overpower the opponents. Which yeah, is valuable. But Akira juat responds with: "well and if the opponent just pulls the gun, you are done for anyway". I mean yes, running away when someone aimes a gun at you, you have very little chance of success. But than again, if you are a good runner, are able to surprise your opponent or whatever chances are you are more eager to survive than just standing there and try to fight the guy. Also, for me the lesson was also more about, what if the opponent draws weapons in general? Well, even than. You better run, that's what.
Now, maybe this is really simplistic and there are many things that go into that kind of stiff. But I was really amazed by how they treated that subject in such an Anime regardless. Telling kids, that not only is it ok, to run away sometimes, but that good stamina and speed are also key factors when you want to learn the basics about fighting. At least that is what I took from that^^
Imagine fighting two professional boxers at the same time lol
LOL
Imagine fighting a traditional baker who kneeds dough all day; what about a traditional clothes washer who wrings out clothes by hand. "How did you crush my hand?" "What? That limp dish cloth?"
I'd run. Preferably somewhere safe. But I know I wouldn't outrun them.
Run
Or gub
Beating multiple opponents is simple: just be bigger, stronger, tougher and more skilled than all of them combined.
In my class we used to do what we called gang sparring, where it was anywhere from 2 to 4 on one. The object was to learn to defend not win
I think Dark Souls address this well. In most video games, the game creates the illusion of fighting multiple opponents when in reality they basically line up for you to handle them one by one while most of them just kinda stand and watch.
But in Dark Souls, they won’t take turns. Even if you’re a high level and have good gear, it’s still possible to die to low-level and weak enemies if you get surrounded by a group of them. They won’t take turns so fighting multiple enemies becomes astronomically more difficult the more there are. I like how the Painted World proved this; normally, an unarmored Hollow is easy to kill and does very little damage. But in the Painted World, a high level area, there’s nothing but groups of Hollows for the most part. But it’s a tough area for a lot of players because they swarm you in groups of three or four with their torches and swords and even though each one is weak by themselves, together they can be very dangerous in groups.
Mount and Blade Warband does this also