7:40 I played the game thoroughly in my childhood. The Casino Night slope has a hidden passage the right side, so that's halting your momentum buildup because you're technically airborne going up the right side.
@@Shiny__Eevee maybe it's just me playing it at a young age just wanted to make a joke but I can see the ISUES SCREW THE KEYS but yeah I just like them cause half pipes classic 2 on the other hand
@@emmastarr5242 that’s an absolutely shitty mindset and you’re not in the right to say that Just because I enjoyed something doesn’t mean I’m gonna ignore all possible criticism especially if I know it’s an inferior version of something great, and this game is certainly flawed
@@Nic_2751 I'm open to criticism when a game actively deserves it. Like any mainline Pokemon game since the Switch released. SV was actually fun AF, but I agree that it has some major flaws that I doubt the DLC will even attempt to fix. Generations 3DS had a few flaws too, but nothing severe enough to start ranting about. And as such, I refuse to give him the time of day. 🤷♀️
@@emmastarr5242Okay, maybe watch the video then so you can actually understand what the criticisms are? If you didn’t actually watch the review, I don’t understand how you can claim he’s ranting. It’s only a 20 minute segment where he discusses his thoughts on the game and why he was underwhelmed by it.
I never thought anyone could hate 3DS generations that much. It was my first version of the game and second sonic game in general and I absolutely loved it and I still don’t understand how you don’t see how great it is for a port
Yeah, none of these are that great, but let's be honest, _Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal_ and _Fire and Ice_ are still 10 times better than _Rise of Lyric_ will ever be.
Maybe in terms of how many glitches there are, but in terms of ambition? At least Rise of Lyric was trying to be something new and distinct from the main version and may have been actually interesting if it didn't get merged with the Boom brand and forced on the WiiU whereas the 3DS games were just more of the same 2010s Sonic trot, down to hiring Pontaff to write the story. People like to trash RoL for the state it was released in, but honestly, out of everything the Boom brand brought us, Rise of Lyric is probably the one I respect the most. Even though all potential was squandered beyond belief, at least there was an aspiration to do something new and interesting with Sonic there.
Given the options for 3DS exclusives at the time I would still play Generations over any of the others, cause I knew how infamously bad the Lost World special stages were supposed to be with its gyro controls and I was never a fan of the whole Boom imagining of the franchise to begin with. Aside from that there was still the older Game Gear games that were downloadable through Nintendo eShop and those 3D ports of Sonic 1 & 2 from Genesis. Or just playing any of the older DS Sonic games on 3DS through its backwards compatibility.
Alright here goes, Generations 2 level picks. Classic Era: Green Hill Zone - Sonic 1 Green Hills Zone - Sonic 2 Green Hill Zone - Sonic Blast Green Hill Zone - Sonic Adventure 2 Green Hill Zone - Sonic Battle Green Hill Zone - Sonic Chronicles Modern era: Green Hill Zone - Sonic Generations Green Hill Zone - Sonic Forces Cyberspace Green Hill - Sonic Frontiers
It needed better games. Hell even ported older 3d games like Adventure 1+2, heroes, unleashed or heck even shadow the hedgehog, probably would've been more interesting than the boom games.
35:05 While Dimps was involved in the Wii/Ps2 version, they only made the level design for the daytime stages. The rest was entirely handled by Sonic Team.
Well lost world 3ds is definitely that it's a 3d platformer on a system that barely has any 3d platformer games. But in terms of the game it's self it's not good.
i love sonic lost world in 3ds, one of my favorite sonic games ever, levels with speed, and other with some good puzzles, amazing controls and movment and very nice graphics for 3ds
Both Generations and Lost World 3DS were games I grew up with. Heck, Generations 3DS was the first game I got for the system because I was intrigued by the games the Blue Blur had on Wii and I need *something* to play for my new handheld even though I probably should've gotten one of the more meatier games available at the time if I was actually interested. Of course being a naive kid at the time, I wasn't aware that the levels came from other titles in Sonic's history and thought they were completely original to Generations 3DS, same for the music. Even after beating the game younger me *still* wasn't fully convinced somehow. Of course the main challenge for both Generations and Lost World 3DS come from the S Ranks. For Generations 3DS instead of the piss easy ranking system seen in the Console/PC version, Generations 3DS harkens back to the older entries like Adventure 2 or the HD version of Unleashed with S Ranks that require a mix between perfection and getting the fastest time possible. This goes double for Lost World 3DS which *really* requires perfection. Especially in the unlockable Hard Mode stages exclusive to Lost World 3DS where that are only 26 Rings throughout the each stage. That being five 5-Rings (which are in the same positions as the Red Star Rings in the normal stages) and the single Ring you start with even after dying.
Oh my god,I remember unlocking the hard more stages in lost world and making a miiverse post that was somewhere along the lines of “This is giving me sonic.exe vibes” with a screenshot of the purple sky. 💀
Personally, the stages I would choose for Gens 3DS are: Classic Era: Green Hill Zone GG or Jungle Zone (1 GG) Crystal Egg Zone (2 GG) or Mecha Green Hill Zone (Chaos) Sunset Park Zone (Triple Trouble) GBA Era: Ice Mountain Zone (Advance) Music Plant Zone (Advance 2) Cyber Track Zone (Advance 3) Modern Era: Water Palace Zone (Rush) Neon Palace Zone (Rivals 2) Pirates’ Island Zone (Rush Adventure) Bosses: Rival Fang (Triple Trouble) Boss Son Wu Kong Mech (Blast) Rival Gemerl (Advance 3) Boss Emerl (Battle) Rival Blaze (Rush) Boss Egg King (Rush)
Pretty good list I'd probably have replaced the advance Era with Egg Rocket/Cosmic Angel, Hot Crater and Twinkle Snow I do love Cyber Track though it's a tough choice xD I'd replace pirates island with Sky Babylon only so that we don't have 2 water themes almost back to back for the modern Era despite how good they are The bosses are a good pick especially if Gemerl is the one fought from Chaos Angel in zone 7 but how would a Emerl from Battle work considering besides the crazed state is a completely different game I'd much rather chase after egg saucer or do the XX Zone from advance 2 complete with all 7 bosses and final boss at the end lol
I think Fire & Ice gets to be really fun after the tutorial levels are over and you can start to just use Sonic's air dash at any point where it might be helpful. Sure, there's silly automated speed sections between the platforming parts, but the platforming parts can be just as fast if you take advantage of the air dash.
I am one of the guys who got a 3DS in high school just for Pokémon Sun and Moon. After playing so much Pokémon I wanted to get more value out of my 3DS and got Sonic Lost World. I remember this game having some really fun levels and being the best looking 3DS game out there. I also remember it being hard as hell and having these fun and fast levels separated by slow and annoying puzzles and boss fights. Its highs were high but its lows were low and frequent
Not gonna lie, I really love Sonic's Air Dash ability from the Boom 3DS games. I feel like that move would be awesome if it were incorporated into some Rush style gameplay and carried some momentum. It feels like a more powerful version of the directional air boosts those games used.
Sonic handles _really_ well in Fire & Ice, at least as long as you're just doing sidescrolling through a level that requires no switching. After him, Knuckles handles pretty well. Everyone else just breaks the flow with little provocation.
Tip for Gens 3DS Classic Sonic: he has the Sonic 2 8-bit spin attack jump. Jumping while rolling gives you a ton of speed, making it feel slightly more like the console version.
Idk about lost world and generations I had fun playing both and didn’t find any problems with the mechanics or gameplay; as for the boom series I agree they weren’t very good felt like the game didn’t know which direction to go for the plot it felt like another version of knuckles’ chaotix
Lost world soooo bad after like the third 3 world I think somecallmejohnny sums it up best there as so many do or die sections and the special stages aren't good
@@jaretco6423 worst handheld sonic game on the 3ds. I agree with you to cause after like the third world the game gets so freaking annoying by the end of the game I had almost popped a blood vessel with how much I died from poor level design and the snow levels oh gosh the snow levels are the worst moments in the game
I think he should since, the game is almost a completely different game and I think some of the issues he had with the vanilla game has mostly been fixed like the lack of momentum, the overall climax and stuff like that
4:55 Come to think of it, Colours should've had Unleashed-style hub worlds. Even if they were small, flat areas like the Eggmanland hub world (with level gates and NPCs in the same area), it still would've given the game a bit more life. They didn't even have to spend a fortune of the cutscenes, most of the dialogue could've been conveyed through text boxes like the ones in Colours DS. Just with 3D models instead of flat JPEGs. Preferably with Sonic also getting dialogue so the NPCs wouldn't end up monologuing. Could've even had random encounters with Orbot & Cubot, like how you would encounter Wentos in Unleashed.
The 3DS had the most fun library of games I’ve ever enjoyed on a handheld device It’s sad that the blue blur didn’t have any memorable games on that platform
The 3d s sonic games were my main introduction to sonic games. But I definitely see what you mean after replaying some of these. The level design has some real crappy moments that drag down the whole game. Generations has some cool bosses though.
Yeah… I’m completely against this video lol. Lost world and Gens 3DS were really fun to me. I’d go as far to say I enjoyed Gens 3DS more than the console ver which even now, I have yet to finish playing through it because of how much i don’t really like it. I 100% 3DS Gens and I started working on 100%ing the console ver maybe like 2 years ago but I’ve put it off for so long just because there’s just too many things in the console ver that pisses me off. Just a few things that annoy me with console Gens: Button latency, the English voice cast, Classic Sonic, the story (omg I hate the story so much), uninspired/boring stage progression, the most mind numbing side missions in a Sonic game, etc. Now with Lost World 3DS, I absolutely loved speed running some of the stages in that ver. I really enjoyed my time playing it. My only issue with it that I have was the special stages, other than that Lost World 3DS was super fun for me. Just for the record, I never grew up with these games. My first time playing Gens 3DS was in 2020 and my first time playing Lost World 3DS was I think 2016 Lastly for the Boom games, I haven’t played them yet so I don’t have any opinions on them. This video kinda just sounds like you simply didn’t like the games and that’s ok. I just don’t agree with completely writing these games of as “bad” just because YOU didn’t enjoy them
I swear every sonic fan channel has like one game that they glaze 24/7, never minding its issues, then spend the rest of their time critically analyzing every other sonic game
I haven't played many of the Sonic games yet. But I remember everyone being disappointed by the Boom games. But I have 1 good irl memory of them. So I was at a Gamestop, and there was an elderly lady there buying a 3DS because she wanted to improve her reflexes, so the cashier recommended Fire & Ice to her, which will forever be a sweet memory to me. She bought it and a couple of other games, but I didn't look too closely.
Honestly they shouldve definitely went in for the handheld levels. Classic Era- Sonic 1 and 2 for Game Gear, Sonic Chaos and Triple Trouble, Sonic Blast. Dreamcast Era- Sonic Advance 1 2 3. Modern Era- Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure, Colors 3DS, and maybe Rivals 1 and 2 just for a longer game 😅 Silver Sonic (Game Gear) and/or Fang wouldve been great for a classic era rival(s) Emerl and/or Gemerl would've been great. And finally Blaze and/Silver (Sonic Rivals setting) wouldve been neat. It just seemed like they "quarter ass" did it. Yeah each era wouldnt have 3 stages an era but who cares. Longer game with these levels wouldve still been massively appreciated imo
15:32 Why did we have to choose a Sonic 2 stage? I understand Sonic 1 since it’s the first handheld game, but I feel like for the rest of the two levels we could choose between any of the other Game Gear games.
Those generation special stages were so much fun though; and I’m ngl nostalgia may be crowding my mind with Lost world but I remember havin’ a blast with that game
In my opinion saying that it had no good games is an exaggeration sure they did have problems and sonic boom was awful but there is still tons of fun to have with generations and lost world 3ds But then again that is my opinion and if you disagree that is fine
While I find Shattered Crystal aggressively mid I REALLY like the other 3. Generations 3DS is a blast to go through, Fire & Ice is a surprisingly decent time overall and Lost World 3DS is just a watered down version of Lost World which is a good game by itself so yeah I consider its 3DS port good as well.
Lost world 3DS and generations are pretty big parts of my childhood. I never owned a wii or wii u so I never had the chance to get the bigger versions of these games. I adored both 3DS games alot. And I played them so much that most flaws really didnt matter to me. It was by the time of boom shattered crystal that i lost all interest. I pretty much stopped playing modern sonic games right then until I got my first pc in 2017 and replayed the games again.
@@SlimeBlueMS Gens 3DS was pretty mediocre but Lost World was a great game. The 1st world's levels are all great. 2nd worlds puzzle level sucked but can be cheesed and is easily beatable under a minute with normal gameplay. A lot of people just refused to master lost world 3ds because of cobanermani and its a shame because it's similar in ranking to heroes for me.
It genuinely baffels me that sega fumbled when it came to sonic on 3DS How did we go from the rush games and colors ds to whatever the hell generations and lost world 3ds were
Generations 3D has the best special stages in my opinion because they don't make me want to fucking break something in sheer rage. Like..every special stage except Sonic 1 does.
Couple things Hot take: I prefer the modern Radical Highway remix to the original Frozen Factory Act 1 is my favorite Lost World 3Ds stage. I really like the Lightning Wisp's grapple, and snowboarding is cool. I think once you really learn Lost World 3DS' bosses, they're actually some of the most fun in the series. Not an excuse, but still. I will always consider Fire and Ice to be the worst good Sonic game
Honestly i likes sonic lost world on the 3ds, from someone who never got the chance to get a wii u till after its lifetime it was a great experience. I enjoyed the game but yes it does have its flaws. I remember my dad making fun of me saying i didnt even let the ink dry on the receipt to play the game. It was a great experience for young me.
If I’m being honest, I do have a bit of nostalgia for sonic generations 3ds and shattered crystal, but only because I played them as a kid and didn’t know what quality was (I used to like cars 2 back then)
I've gone back to some games I loved and played to death as a kid and man some are so bad. Some I still enjoy but others I threw away my nostalgia goggles lol
When it comes to Generations on the 3DS, I would have loved to see more handheld stages and the return of Sonic Rush's trick mechanics. Regarding Lost World, I understand the argument that it's a portable game, so it makes sense to play all parts of it while on the go. Yes special stages in Lost World 3DS require gyro mechanics and movement, which can be seen as an inconvenience. However, many handheld games have unique mechanics that can't be replicated in other settings. The game clearly warns players that these stages require an open space for gyro controls and movement. It's a bit odd to criticize this feature because you don't have to engage in those stages while on a bus or train. You can simply wait and enjoy other aspects of the game. Consider the versus mode, for example; it's understood that you need Wi-Fi to connect to the internet and find matches, so you wouldn't be upset if you couldn't play it on a train or bus. So, why treat gyro controls in the special stages any differently? It's like getting frustrated with a feature for the sake of being frustrated. Furthermore, it's enjoyable to unlock Super Sonic before completing the game and using him against the final boss, something that can't be done in the console version. Despite some finicky controls in the 3DS at least, the 3DS version makes a more concerted effort, and once you understand the patterns, it becomes quite manageable. In contrast, the console version's bosses are notably easy and lack depth in gameplay. They are objectively worse in every way except polygon and pixel count and are some of the easiest bosses in any post-Adventure (non-spin off) 3D sonic game. I just don't get how anyone can defend those trash fights. Like I agree with some of the complaints but they just aren't that bad.
I'm one of those freakshows that thinks both the lost worlds are some of the most underrated games in the series. Although i totally admit the 3ds one can be frustrating as hell at times.
I really like lost world 3ds, actually. Call it a guilty pleasure, but I find it to be a much better realized vision of the main game when it comes to artstyle, bosses, parkour, controls, 2d stages... What I also like about it, is that it's hard. Like, actually really hard! And I don't mind it at all, I really enjoy those meaty stages with hard to get S ranks which reward parkour mastery, exploration and smart wisp usage. The only act in the game I truly dislike, the infamous one, can be broken in half with the earthquake wisp... To me, this is meaningful content. Then you add red rings, extra stages, hard mode to the pile, and the result is a lot of bang for your buck. The special stages aren't even bad on original hardware! When you can move at 360 degrees, but still. And the stage length? Well... It's up to you, but if you try to master the stages they won't go past 5 minutes, aka, my preferred stage length for a sonic game. I guess this game was made for me, in many ways it gave me what the original lost world couldn't (a fully fleshed out stage with dragon dance in the background for instance) and I'm glad I've tried it a few months ago
@playbossthebest936 Fellow Lost World 3DS enjoyer here.. It is hard at times, but as you say, you can destroy the levels in that game. For example in the 2nd level of Windy Hill, in the parkour section after the first giant spring, you can climb the walls you're meant to wall run across by climbing the side not facing you, and it's even intentional as there are 10 rings on top of the walls. I agree with basically the entirety of this comment, especially the length of stages which is quite comfortable once you've got them down
@@IntrestingYTObserver oh my god, I have to try that out! It's good to see other lost world 3ds enjoyers around here EDIT: I've tried that out, super cool
@@playbossthebest936 sry for not responding promptly yt dosent tell me about replys sometimes. Cool you tried it! Here's another one: In the area at 35:12, you don't need to defeat the boss to go to the next area! What you need to do is: Stand on top of the object the spring is inside. Go to the farthest corner of the object and charge a spin dash, facing the area with the most space. Perform an infinite spin dash (as soon as you release the Y button, hold Y again) While jumping and holding forwards. You can jump in such a way that you don't need to use the spring he uses in the video. You can climb the wall of that far platform, skipping the boss fight. Much easier with super sonic but still doable with normal sonic. I could send you a (very low quality as I dont have a 3ds capture card) unlisted yt video if you liked. Edit: It may not be that exact location btw.
@@IntrestingYTObserverI've done that trick several times in other stages, like frozen factory zone 3 and sky road zone 3. This game's movement is versatile, that's for sure
47:48 I guess you could say that shattered crystal is a guilty pleasure ‘cause i really like the game. I love the story, the cutscenes and the levels were just really fun. I blasted through game so quick though that it felt too short so I wish it was longer. You think it’s a long game?! Have you played Heroes?! Those levels take like 13 minutes to complete! Way too long. And I really like the show. I thought it was just a fun and good show like amazing world of gumball and stuff, and I hate it got canceled.
Generations 3DS got us a remix of Big Arm/Giant Eggman Robo (the boss of Death Egg Zone that also uses the music in the original Sonic 3 & Knuckles), so its by default not totally bad.
I grew up on Lost World 3ds and Shattered crystal, and I really enjoyed them, especially lost world 3ds, I hated some levels and found aspects annoying but I still sunk tens of hours into them,tho I stopped playing Shattered crystal for a while because I got to the final world and my sister accidentally deleted my save file 💀
Prehaps i have a soft spot for these games. They were released while i was in college. What generations 3ds did well was the classic sonic controls and controls in general. It's perfection while the console version controls were garbage. Lost World 3ds was long, I was surprised they added hard mode levels. Each their own on the extra content. Sonic boom, tried to beat it, but got stuck. Wii u version was the knux glitch. Overall the games did what they could and I welcome them.
I remember playing all these growing up. You hit the nail right on the head with lost world 3DS. I’ve never had a more painful slog trying to complete a sonic game until I came across this. Frozen Factory Act 3 (the snowball level) and that one asteroid level in sky road made me wanna kill myself💀
I would be so down with a Sonic Generations 3DS Community Edition that uses those poll results that just a modded version of the PC version but takes out the 3D sections of Modern Sonic to be more authentic to the 3DS version
I wish you can make some Mega Man Zero/ZX Series 5 Years Later Reviews someday soon. They really deserves a revisit, not to mention ZX and ZX Advent for Real this time.
I finished Generations for 3DS days ago as well as Lost World, none of them are really bad, they are just "good" and that's it, making comparisons with their desktop counterparts is stupid; They're not great, but they're not crap either.
Had a dream last week that you made a video on Sonic ports with the same title structure as this video’s titled *The Sonic Series Has No Good Remasters*
Fun fact: Sonic Generations 3ds isn't actually the 4th rush game, it was the the fifth! (Since There was a version of Sonic Unleashed on Java made by also Dimps! It plays like the rush games, but just pretty limited)
32:48 yeah this is basically my experience with sonic Gen 3ds. The only context I had about sonic at the time was like: Sonic.exe, those sonic paradox shorts and games on Flash sites and Roblox. So a lot of what you say about reusing stages and it not representing it's history never really applied to me. Lmao I remember complaining about the classic Sonic's physics being weird because I was so used to Gen classic sonic. Not sure I understand what you mean about stage design specifically not being cohesive? It's a general thing boost sonic does. Using HD GEN radical highway for reference, It throws more things at you than anything in the 3ds version. Boosting>get picked up by a helicopter and into a grind-rail that leads into running on walls that goes into crashing into a building to then boost again and into a 2D segment where you then sky diving. And I'm fine with it. Even spending 30 seconds on a single stage mechanic at a time already feels like your wasting time, which then grows each time you replay the stage.(those moving platform barrels in 3DS radical highway act 2 are a good example of what I mean) Maybe you're implying a better way would have been by implementing things gradually intro stage? Or have them reappear? But even then with the example you gave,most of those happen several time throughout the stage with different contexts. The handheld helicopter thing appears at the beginning of the stage, there's not much punishment for failing. It's a short cut /determines what route you'll be on. Then it appears again, but this time with spikes you have to navigate through. and the third time is for the same reason as the first but with a death pit.
Water Palace Act 2 (the Modern Sonic version) actually reuses the stage layout of Water Palace Act 1 from Sonic Rush, so it's not just the Genesis era that was entirely copy-pasted.
I played through Generations 3DS recently and I found it a decent Sonic Game. From what I heard about the others though then that it is probably accurate about them. Generations 3DS is LOADS better than something like Rise of Lyric for example. EDIT: Just watched through his 3ds Generations bit and most of his gripes are in comparison to other Sonic Games. Also, comparing the 3DS Generations to the console one is unfair as there WASN'T one for a Nintendo Console.
As a major Sonic the Hedgehog fan, I will shamefully admit, other than the Gamegear games, I have never played any handheld Sonic games. In fact, the Gameboy Color was the last handheld console I had..... I havent played anything Nintendo (seriously) since like... 2002 maybe. In fact I have never played a Nintendo system... In fact in fact... I still have never played a Zelda game.... Or Metroid.
i just came up with 2 sonic boom game ideas that would have probably saved the side serie Sonic boom: eggmania. The gameplay would be similar to that of rise of lyric but more finished. The main threat is simply eggman so it’s basically the show but playable. All (eggman)robots that appear in the show will also make an appearance. Second one is Sonic boom: metal supreme. The new threat is a robot from the future that looks like mecha sonic but darker. It works with eggman and combines with his robots to make them stronger. The final encounter is between sonic and metal supreme where sonic makes a sonic boom and gets super charged (with blue eyes) to make a chance at destroying metal supreme. After the fight metal supreme simply fades away after sending one last message.
I thought Generations was a decent time-killer at least. Still have it installed on my own 3DS. But then this was still the time when the portable versions of game titles were often going to be the lesser versions due to hardware limitations or what-have-you, something which Nintendo seems to have finally rendered mute with the Switch and only needing to develop titles for a single system now. On the other hand I do have to agree that not including recreations of any of the levels from the Game Gear or Advance games in the portable Generations was always an extremely missed opportunity.
I find it ironic that when you mentioned "every Playstation console", you literally left out their only successful Portable console from the compilation of game covers.
I think it's really funny how in Lost World 3DS the signature rings you collect aren't even 3D models, they're heavily-compressed looping PNG's plastered all over the levels, which doesn't do the already not good 3DS version any favors.
15:10 Funny, you did exactly what Sega did and made a poll to see which levels would make it into Generation (Shadow and Storybook games got excluded). Except you didnt stick to just Sonic Team games
Generations seems to be the best 3ds sonic game. Lost world on 3ds along with both boom games don't seem to be worthwhile games in the franchise, and I say that as a huge fan of every era of the franchise.
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@JeReviews Stop hating the sonic 3ds games dude. That is childish behavior and I gave u a dislike because of it
7:40 I played the game thoroughly in my childhood. The Casino Night slope has a hidden passage the right side, so that's halting your momentum buildup because you're technically airborne going up the right side.
Generations 3Ds made Heroes special stages playable so it gets a pass in my book
Mario and sonic at the winter Olympic games had one as well
I really liked generations on 3ds
Imagine sucking at heros special stages SKILL ISSUE
@@mddavids8778ah yes the special stages that so bad to control and not fun mhm just a skill issue totally😑
@@Shiny__Eevee maybe it's just me playing it at a young age just wanted to make a joke but I can see the ISUES SCREW THE KEYS but yeah I just like them cause half pipes classic 2 on the other hand
Sonic Generations on 3DS is a really fun game. Specially Modern Sonic. Classic Sonic and boss list isn’t as great. But I still had fun.
I agree!
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Really? Seems way to samey
Exactly what I came here to say. Not even watching the video. I'm just here to leave him a dislike. 🤷♀
In defense of 3DS Generations, it gave us one of the best official Big Arms renditions ever. Nothing tops that solo in my opinion
Yeah but the fight is so easy you can finish it before it gets any good
Yep
Agreed.
The nostalgia cope in the comments are real
Originally it was gonna be a rendition of Doomsday Zone
wish we could get that rendition in Sonic x Shadow Generations
Ok I actually enjoyed 3DS Generations cause it at least stuck to its guns and gave us some nice level comebacks
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Exactly what I came here to say. Not even watching the video. I'm just here to leave him a dislike. 🤷♀
@@emmastarr5242 that’s an absolutely shitty mindset and you’re not in the right to say that
Just because I enjoyed something doesn’t mean I’m gonna ignore all possible criticism especially if I know it’s an inferior version of something great, and this game is certainly flawed
@@Nic_2751 I'm open to criticism when a game actively deserves it. Like any mainline Pokemon game since the Switch released. SV was actually fun AF, but I agree that it has some major flaws that I doubt the DLC will even attempt to fix. Generations 3DS had a few flaws too, but nothing severe enough to start ranting about. And as such, I refuse to give him the time of day. 🤷♀️
@@emmastarr5242Okay, maybe watch the video then so you can actually understand what the criticisms are? If you didn’t actually watch the review, I don’t understand how you can claim he’s ranting. It’s only a 20 minute segment where he discusses his thoughts on the game and why he was underwhelmed by it.
I never thought anyone could hate 3DS generations that much. It was my first version of the game and second sonic game in general and I absolutely loved it and I still don’t understand how you don’t see how great it is for a port
I agree 💯
Exactly what I came here to say. Not even watching the video. I'm just here to leave him a dislike. 🤷♀
@emmastarr5242
And to copy-paste this comment around, it seems. For someone who refuses to watch the video, you sure are spending a lot of time on it.
Generations 3DS was enjoyable if you didn’t have the HD Versions, but at the end of the day it’s still a poor man’s version of the HD Version.
@@emmastarr5242 You're coping.
Yeah, none of these are that great, but let's be honest, _Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal_ and _Fire and Ice_ are still 10 times better than _Rise of Lyric_ will ever be.
Very true.
Maybe in terms of how many glitches there are, but in terms of ambition? At least Rise of Lyric was trying to be something new and distinct from the main version and may have been actually interesting if it didn't get merged with the Boom brand and forced on the WiiU whereas the 3DS games were just more of the same 2010s Sonic trot, down to hiring Pontaff to write the story. People like to trash RoL for the state it was released in, but honestly, out of everything the Boom brand brought us, Rise of Lyric is probably the one I respect the most. Even though all potential was squandered beyond belief, at least there was an aspiration to do something new and interesting with Sonic there.
They're definitely more playable.
Given the options for 3DS exclusives at the time I would still play Generations over any of the others, cause I knew how infamously bad the Lost World special stages were supposed to be with its gyro controls and I was never a fan of the whole Boom imagining of the franchise to begin with.
Aside from that there was still the older Game Gear games that were downloadable through Nintendo eShop and those 3D ports of Sonic 1 & 2 from Genesis. Or just playing any of the older DS Sonic games on 3DS through its backwards compatibility.
That’s not saying much
Alright here goes, Generations 2 level picks.
Classic Era:
Green Hill Zone - Sonic 1
Green Hills Zone - Sonic 2
Green Hill Zone - Sonic Blast
Green Hill Zone - Sonic Adventure 2
Green Hill Zone - Sonic Battle
Green Hill Zone - Sonic Chronicles
Modern era:
Green Hill Zone - Sonic Generations
Green Hill Zone - Sonic Forces
Cyberspace Green Hill - Sonic Frontiers
You forgot Neo Green Hill from Advance and Sunset Hill from Advance 3
Where's the adventure era?
I really wish Sonic’s 3DS library had more games.
It needed better games. Hell even ported older 3d games like Adventure 1+2, heroes, unleashed or heck even shadow the hedgehog, probably would've been more interesting than the boom games.
@@dinar8749thoses are not possible maybe sa1 and sa2 with tweeks
@dinar8749 I can somewhat understand the Adventure games. But Heroes, Shadow & Unleashed? Nope. There just as mediocre as the 3DS games.
@@Kamaalwillingham How are they not possible?
@@jaretco6423 Disagree. Those games are all great.
Generations 3DS is really cool honestly. I liked how it had completely different levels
35:05 While Dimps was involved in the Wii/Ps2 version, they only made the level design for the daytime stages. The rest was entirely handled by Sonic Team.
Sonic rush 1 and 2 will forever be masterpieces same with colors DS to me
The 3ds has enough power to run a semi 3d game like colors or maybe even the wii port of unleashed
Well lost world 3ds is definitely that it's a 3d platformer on a system that barely has any 3d platformer games. But in terms of the game it's self it's not good.
i love sonic lost world in 3ds, one of my favorite sonic games ever, levels with speed, and other with some good puzzles, amazing controls and movment and very nice graphics for 3ds
i agree
Yeah, honestly surprised it even exists at all, you'd think they'd keep it Wii U exclusive
Both Generations and Lost World 3DS were games I grew up with.
Heck, Generations 3DS was the first game I got for the system because I was intrigued by the games the Blue Blur had on Wii and I need *something* to play for my new handheld even though I probably should've gotten one of the more meatier games available at the time if I was actually interested.
Of course being a naive kid at the time, I wasn't aware that the levels came from other titles in Sonic's history and thought they were completely original to Generations 3DS, same for the music. Even after beating the game younger me *still* wasn't fully convinced somehow.
Of course the main challenge for both Generations and Lost World 3DS come from the S Ranks. For Generations 3DS instead of the piss easy ranking system seen in the Console/PC version, Generations 3DS harkens back to the older entries like Adventure 2 or the HD version of Unleashed with S Ranks that require a mix between perfection and getting the fastest time possible. This goes double for Lost World 3DS which *really* requires perfection.
Especially in the unlockable Hard Mode stages exclusive to Lost World 3DS where that are only 26 Rings throughout the each stage. That being five 5-Rings (which are in the same positions as the Red Star Rings in the normal stages) and the single Ring you start with even after dying.
Oh my god,I remember unlocking the hard more stages in lost world and making a miiverse post that was somewhere along the lines of “This is giving me sonic.exe vibes” with a screenshot of the purple sky. 💀
Personally, the stages I would choose for Gens 3DS are:
Classic Era:
Green Hill Zone GG or Jungle Zone (1 GG)
Crystal Egg Zone (2 GG) or Mecha Green Hill Zone (Chaos)
Sunset Park Zone (Triple Trouble)
GBA Era:
Ice Mountain Zone (Advance)
Music Plant Zone (Advance 2)
Cyber Track Zone (Advance 3)
Modern Era:
Water Palace Zone (Rush)
Neon Palace Zone (Rivals 2)
Pirates’ Island Zone (Rush Adventure)
Bosses:
Rival Fang (Triple Trouble)
Boss Son Wu Kong Mech (Blast)
Rival Gemerl (Advance 3)
Boss Emerl (Battle)
Rival Blaze (Rush)
Boss Egg King (Rush)
would have loved to see egg king again
That’s a damn good list…
@@RappingNinja thx
Pretty good list I'd probably have replaced the advance Era with Egg Rocket/Cosmic Angel, Hot Crater and Twinkle Snow I do love Cyber Track though it's a tough choice xD
I'd replace pirates island with Sky Babylon only so that we don't have 2 water themes almost back to back for the modern Era despite how good they are
The bosses are a good pick especially if Gemerl is the one fought from Chaos Angel in zone 7 but how would a Emerl from Battle work considering besides the crazed state is a completely different game I'd much rather chase after egg saucer or do the XX Zone from advance 2 complete with all 7 bosses and final boss at the end lol
@@lugiamastero13 That’s fair with Emerl. I imagine they could get very creative with him even if the boss wouldn’t play anything like the original.
I think Fire & Ice gets to be really fun after the tutorial levels are over and you can start to just use Sonic's air dash at any point where it might be helpful. Sure, there's silly automated speed sections between the platforming parts, but the platforming parts can be just as fast if you take advantage of the air dash.
I am one of the guys who got a 3DS in high school just for Pokémon Sun and Moon. After playing so much Pokémon I wanted to get more value out of my 3DS and got Sonic Lost World. I remember this game having some really fun levels and being the best looking 3DS game out there. I also remember it being hard as hell and having these fun and fast levels separated by slow and annoying puzzles and boss fights. Its highs were high but its lows were low and frequent
I personally enjoy Sonic Boom Fire and Ice and Sonic Lost World.
Not gonna lie, I really love Sonic's Air Dash ability from the Boom 3DS games. I feel like that move would be awesome if it were incorporated into some Rush style gameplay and carried some momentum. It feels like a more powerful version of the directional air boosts those games used.
Sonic handles _really_ well in Fire & Ice, at least as long as you're just doing sidescrolling through a level that requires no switching. After him, Knuckles handles pretty well. Everyone else just breaks the flow with little provocation.
Tip for Gens 3DS Classic Sonic: he has the Sonic 2 8-bit spin attack jump. Jumping while rolling gives you a ton of speed, making it feel slightly more like the console version.
Idk about lost world and generations I had fun playing both and didn’t find any problems with the mechanics or gameplay; as for the boom series I agree they weren’t very good felt like the game didn’t know which direction to go for the plot it felt like another version of knuckles’ chaotix
I enjoyed generations 3ds and i heard lost world was great too hopefully ill get to try it at some point.
I liked all of them
Lost world soooo bad after like the third 3 world I think somecallmejohnny sums it up best there as so many do or die sections and the special stages aren't good
@@jaretco6423 worst handheld sonic game on the 3ds. I agree with you to cause after like the third world the game gets so freaking annoying by the end of the game I had almost popped a blood vessel with how much I died from poor level design and the snow levels oh gosh the snow levels are the worst moments in the game
Are you planning on redoing your frontiers review after update 3?
I think he should since, the game is almost a completely different game and I think some of the issues he had with the vanilla game has mostly been fixed like the lack of momentum, the overall climax and stuff like that
@@LashesElf exactly
He replied to a similar comment in a community post that he would.
@@cjgg4885 that's good
I will defend 3DS generations till my final breath
Yes it's crazy to see ppl hate something so good.
And I will say Lost World 3DS is overhated till I give up!
0:57 bro said "game player" instead of gamer lol
I like sonic lost world on the 3DS more than I did PC
4:55 Come to think of it, Colours should've had Unleashed-style hub worlds. Even if they were small, flat areas like the Eggmanland hub world (with level gates and NPCs in the same area), it still would've given the game a bit more life.
They didn't even have to spend a fortune of the cutscenes, most of the dialogue could've been conveyed through text boxes like the ones in Colours DS. Just with 3D models instead of flat JPEGs. Preferably with Sonic also getting dialogue so the NPCs wouldn't end up monologuing.
Could've even had random encounters with Orbot & Cubot, like how you would encounter Wentos in Unleashed.
The 3DS had the most fun library of games I’ve ever enjoyed on a handheld device
It’s sad that the blue blur didn’t have any memorable games on that platform
Try generations that one was dope af
Honestly, DS beats it down singlehandedly. If I owned DS before 3DS, I would've been disappointed.
@@InsidiousOneAt least you can play all your ds games on it so it feels more like an expansion.
@@Azurald55 yeah, since I didn't have DS at all, 3DS was 70% a DS machine for me, trying all those awesome games I missed.
I disagree because most DS games were controlled by the terrible touchscreen.
sonic generations for the 3ds was pretty good it has its flaws but it a fun little game I know I had fun when I was younger.
The 3d s sonic games were my main introduction to sonic games. But I definitely see what you mean after replaying some of these. The level design has some real crappy moments that drag down the whole game. Generations has some cool bosses though.
Yeah… I’m completely against this video lol. Lost world and Gens 3DS were really fun to me. I’d go as far to say I enjoyed Gens 3DS more than the console ver which even now, I have yet to finish playing through it because of how much i don’t really like it. I 100% 3DS Gens and I started working on 100%ing the console ver maybe like 2 years ago but I’ve put it off for so long just because there’s just too many things in the console ver that pisses me off. Just a few things that annoy me with console Gens: Button latency, the English voice cast, Classic Sonic, the story (omg I hate the story so much), uninspired/boring stage progression, the most mind numbing side missions in a Sonic game, etc.
Now with Lost World 3DS, I absolutely loved speed running some of the stages in that ver. I really enjoyed my time playing it. My only issue with it that I have was the special stages, other than that Lost World 3DS was super fun for me. Just for the record, I never grew up with these games. My first time playing Gens 3DS was in 2020 and my first time playing Lost World 3DS was I think 2016
Lastly for the Boom games, I haven’t played them yet so I don’t have any opinions on them.
This video kinda just sounds like you simply didn’t like the games and that’s ok. I just don’t agree with completely writing these games of as “bad” just because YOU didn’t enjoy them
Hot take: I actually liked Lost World 3ds, a lot more than the Wii U version honestly.
Só exaggerated. Generations on 3DS is pretty fun (especially getting the S ranks) and the 2.5D graphics are super impressive for the console.
3DS: "Had No Good Sonic Games" PS Vita: HAD NO Sonic Games.. at all. well atleast the 3DS had sonic games
It had sonic games,but those are psp games
Sonic and all Stars Racing Transformed
I swear every sonic fan channel has like one game that they glaze 24/7, never minding its issues, then spend the rest of their time critically analyzing every other sonic game
I haven't played many of the Sonic games yet. But I remember everyone being disappointed by the Boom games. But I have 1 good irl memory of them. So I was at a Gamestop, and there was an elderly lady there buying a 3DS because she wanted to improve her reflexes, so the cashier recommended Fire & Ice to her, which will forever be a sweet memory to me.
She bought it and a couple of other games, but I didn't look too closely.
Honestly they shouldve definitely went in for the handheld levels.
Classic Era- Sonic 1 and 2 for Game Gear, Sonic Chaos and Triple Trouble, Sonic Blast.
Dreamcast Era- Sonic Advance 1 2 3.
Modern Era- Sonic Rush and Rush Adventure, Colors 3DS, and maybe Rivals 1 and 2 just for a longer game 😅
Silver Sonic (Game Gear) and/or Fang wouldve been great for a classic era rival(s)
Emerl and/or Gemerl would've been great.
And finally Blaze and/Silver (Sonic Rivals setting) wouldve been neat.
It just seemed like they "quarter ass" did it. Yeah each era wouldnt have 3 stages an era but who cares. Longer game with these levels wouldve still been massively appreciated imo
15:32
Why did we have to choose a Sonic 2 stage? I understand Sonic 1 since it’s the first handheld game, but I feel like for the rest of the two levels we could choose between any of the other Game Gear games.
Gongrats on reaching 200k subscribers!🎉
Those generation special stages were so much fun though; and I’m ngl nostalgia may be crowding my mind with Lost world but I remember havin’ a blast with that game
44:02 your roger impression 💀
It wasn’t THAT funny you stupid anime pfp ahh
In my opinion saying that it had no good games is an exaggeration sure they did have problems and sonic boom was awful but there is still tons of fun to have with generations and lost world 3ds
But then again that is my opinion and if you disagree that is fine
While I find Shattered Crystal aggressively mid I REALLY like the other 3. Generations 3DS is a blast to go through, Fire & Ice is a surprisingly decent time overall and Lost World 3DS is just a watered down version of Lost World which is a good game by itself so yeah I consider its 3DS port good as well.
Lost world 3DS and generations are pretty big parts of my childhood. I never owned a wii or wii u so I never had the chance to get the bigger versions of these games. I adored both 3DS games alot. And I played them so much that most flaws really didnt matter to me. It was by the time of boom shattered crystal that i lost all interest. I pretty much stopped playing modern sonic games right then until I got my first pc in 2017 and replayed the games again.
There's no Wii U generations though
It's kinda sad when mediocre games define someone's childhood lol
@@SlimeBlueMS Gens 3DS was pretty mediocre but Lost World was a great game. The 1st world's levels are all great. 2nd worlds puzzle level sucked but can be cheesed and is easily beatable under a minute with normal gameplay. A lot of people just refused to master lost world 3ds because of cobanermani and its a shame because it's similar in ranking to heroes for me.
It genuinely baffels me that sega fumbled when it came to sonic on 3DS
How did we go from the rush games and colors ds to whatever the hell generations and lost world 3ds were
Generations 3D has the best special stages in my opinion because they don't make me want to fucking break something in sheer rage.
Like..every special stage except Sonic 1 does.
Couple things
Hot take: I prefer the modern Radical Highway remix to the original
Frozen Factory Act 1 is my favorite Lost World 3Ds stage. I really like the Lightning Wisp's grapple, and snowboarding is cool.
I think once you really learn Lost World 3DS' bosses, they're actually some of the most fun in the series. Not an excuse, but still.
I will always consider Fire and Ice to be the worst good Sonic game
Honestly i likes sonic lost world on the 3ds, from someone who never got the chance to get a wii u till after its lifetime it was a great experience. I enjoyed the game but yes it does have its flaws.
I remember my dad making fun of me saying i didnt even let the ink dry on the receipt to play the game. It was a great experience for young me.
Ok most sponsors I ignore. But ngl I'm actually sold on that pillow. That's just very useful sounding
Coming in with the spicy takes
If I’m being honest, I do have a bit of nostalgia for sonic generations 3ds and shattered crystal, but only because I played them as a kid and didn’t know what quality was (I used to like cars 2 back then)
I've gone back to some games I loved and played to death as a kid and man some are so bad. Some I still enjoy but others I threw away my nostalgia goggles lol
I've never heard about Dimps having a "bad reputation" before, they've made some of if not the best Sonic games through the 2000's
Same this dude always has pretty meh takes and tries chinese whispering them into the culture
4:13
spanish community:
da F- do you mean?
Honestly I love dimps. The only thing bad is the level design in my opinion. I have beat every dimps sonic game... except for sonic 4 fuck that
When it comes to Generations on the 3DS, I would have loved to see more handheld stages and the return of Sonic Rush's trick mechanics.
Regarding Lost World, I understand the argument that it's a portable game, so it makes sense to play all parts of it while on the go. Yes special stages in Lost World 3DS require gyro mechanics and movement, which can be seen as an inconvenience. However, many handheld games have unique mechanics that can't be replicated in other settings. The game clearly warns players that these stages require an open space for gyro controls and movement. It's a bit odd to criticize this feature because you don't have to engage in those stages while on a bus or train. You can simply wait and enjoy other aspects of the game.
Consider the versus mode, for example; it's understood that you need Wi-Fi to connect to the internet and find matches, so you wouldn't be upset if you couldn't play it on a train or bus. So, why treat gyro controls in the special stages any differently? It's like getting frustrated with a feature for the sake of being frustrated.
Furthermore, it's enjoyable to unlock Super Sonic before completing the game and using him against the final boss, something that can't be done in the console version. Despite some finicky controls in the 3DS at least, the 3DS version makes a more concerted effort, and once you understand the patterns, it becomes quite manageable. In contrast, the console version's bosses are notably easy and lack depth in gameplay. They are objectively worse in every way except polygon and pixel count and are some of the easiest bosses in any post-Adventure (non-spin off) 3D sonic game. I just don't get how anyone can defend those trash fights.
Like I agree with some of the complaints but they just aren't that bad.
I'm one of those freakshows that thinks both the lost worlds are some of the most underrated games in the series.
Although i totally admit the 3ds one can be frustrating as hell at times.
Congrats on 200k subs, J, I love your content.
I really like lost world 3ds, actually. Call it a guilty pleasure, but I find it to be a much better realized vision of the main game when it comes to artstyle, bosses, parkour, controls, 2d stages... What I also like about it, is that it's hard. Like, actually really hard! And I don't mind it at all, I really enjoy those meaty stages with hard to get S ranks which reward parkour mastery, exploration and smart wisp usage. The only act in the game I truly dislike, the infamous one, can be broken in half with the earthquake wisp... To me, this is meaningful content. Then you add red rings, extra stages, hard mode to the pile, and the result is a lot of bang for your buck. The special stages aren't even bad on original hardware! When you can move at 360 degrees, but still. And the stage length? Well... It's up to you, but if you try to master the stages they won't go past 5 minutes, aka, my preferred stage length for a sonic game. I guess this game was made for me, in many ways it gave me what the original lost world couldn't (a fully fleshed out stage with dragon dance in the background for instance) and I'm glad I've tried it a few months ago
@playbossthebest936 Fellow Lost World 3DS enjoyer here..
It is hard at times, but as you say, you can destroy the levels in that game.
For example in the 2nd level of Windy Hill, in the parkour section after the first giant spring, you can climb the walls you're meant to wall run across by climbing the side not facing you, and it's even intentional as there are 10 rings on top of the walls.
I agree with basically the entirety of this comment, especially the length of stages which is quite comfortable once you've got them down
@@IntrestingYTObserver oh my god, I have to try that out! It's good to see other lost world 3ds enjoyers around here
EDIT: I've tried that out, super cool
@@playbossthebest936 sry for not responding promptly yt dosent tell me about replys sometimes.
Cool you tried it! Here's another one: In the area at 35:12, you don't need to defeat the boss to go to the next area! What you need to do is:
Stand on top of the object the spring is inside.
Go to the farthest corner of the object and charge a spin dash, facing the area with the most space.
Perform an infinite spin dash (as soon as you release the Y button, hold Y again)
While jumping and holding forwards.
You can jump in such a way that you don't need to use the spring he uses in the video. You can climb the wall of that far platform, skipping the boss fight.
Much easier with super sonic but still doable with normal sonic.
I could send you a (very low quality as I dont have a 3ds capture card) unlisted yt video if you liked.
Edit: It may not be that exact location btw.
@@IntrestingYTObserverI've done that trick several times in other stages, like frozen factory zone 3 and sky road zone 3. This game's movement is versatile, that's for sure
The stages in Sonic Rush were amazing but the boss battles were horrific. Ground everything to a sudden halt.
Rush 1 yeah but in Rush Adventure they were great.
The dung beetle boss in Rush is awesome. Absolutely F that final boss fight (Egg King).
Don't know about the Boom games, but the Generations was solid, not a masterpiece but solid lol
47:48 I guess you could say that shattered crystal is a guilty pleasure ‘cause i really like the game. I love the story, the cutscenes and the levels were just really fun. I blasted through game so quick though that it felt too short so I wish it was longer. You think it’s a long game?! Have you played Heroes?! Those levels take like 13 minutes to complete! Way too long. And I really like the show. I thought it was just a fun and good show like amazing world of gumball and stuff, and I hate it got canceled.
Sonic Lost World on the 3DS is wayyyyyy better than the wiiU version tbh
Generations 3DS got us a remix of Big Arm/Giant Eggman Robo (the boss of Death Egg Zone that also uses the music in the original Sonic 3 & Knuckles), so its by default not totally bad.
I grew up on Lost World 3ds and Shattered crystal, and I really enjoyed them, especially lost world 3ds, I hated some levels and found aspects annoying but I still sunk tens of hours into them,tho I stopped playing Shattered crystal for a while because I got to the final world and my sister accidentally deleted my save file 💀
Those shortcuts you took in Silver's Crisis city in the beginning were awesome.
Prehaps i have a soft spot for these games. They were released while i was in college.
What generations 3ds did well was the classic sonic controls and controls in general.
It's perfection while the console version controls were garbage.
Lost World 3ds was long, I was surprised they added hard mode levels. Each their own on the extra content.
Sonic boom, tried to beat it, but got stuck. Wii u version was the knux glitch.
Overall the games did what they could and I welcome them.
I remember playing all these growing up. You hit the nail right on the head with lost world 3DS. I’ve never had a more painful slog trying to complete a sonic game until I came across this. Frozen Factory Act 3 (the snowball level) and that one asteroid level in sky road made me wanna kill myself💀
Those levels are easy once mastered tbh.
35:35 I appreciate that you acknowledged that people like it (like me).
I would be so down with a Sonic Generations 3DS Community Edition that uses those poll results that just a modded version of the PC version but takes out the 3D sections of Modern Sonic to be more authentic to the 3DS version
I wish you can make some Mega Man Zero/ZX Series 5 Years Later Reviews someday soon. They really deserves a revisit, not to mention ZX and ZX Advent for Real this time.
I finished Generations for 3DS days ago as well as Lost World, none of them are really bad, they are just "good" and that's it, making comparisons with their desktop counterparts is stupid; They're not great, but they're not crap either.
Had a dream last week that you made a video on Sonic ports with the same title structure as this video’s titled *The Sonic Series Has No Good Remasters*
emerald coast should’ve been in the console version of generations…. And generations should’ve been longer
someone is actually porting Unleashed to the 3DS, don't know if they'll do the entire game
I think Generations and Lost World are okay at best but not bad
Generations I agree. But Lost World? Heck no. That game is terrible. One of the worst Sonic games out there.
54:33 He does always say that
What a legend
Congrats on reaching 200k subs.
Fun fact: Sonic Generations 3ds isn't actually the 4th rush game, it was the the fifth! (Since There was a version of Sonic Unleashed on Java made by also Dimps! It plays like the rush games, but just pretty limited)
32:48 yeah this is basically my experience with sonic Gen 3ds. The only context I had about sonic at the time was like: Sonic.exe, those sonic paradox shorts and games on Flash sites and Roblox. So a lot of what you say about reusing stages and it not representing it's history never really applied to me. Lmao I remember complaining about the classic Sonic's physics being weird because I was so used to Gen classic sonic.
Not sure I understand what you mean about stage design specifically not being cohesive?
It's a general thing boost sonic does. Using HD GEN radical highway for reference, It throws more things at you than anything in the 3ds version. Boosting>get picked up by a helicopter and into a grind-rail that leads into running on walls that goes into crashing into a building to then boost again and into a 2D segment where you then sky diving. And I'm fine with it. Even spending 30 seconds on a single stage mechanic at a time already feels like your wasting time, which then grows each time you replay the stage.(those moving platform barrels in 3DS radical highway act 2 are a good example of what I mean)
Maybe you're implying a better way would have been by implementing things gradually intro stage? Or have them reappear? But even then with the example you gave,most of those happen several time throughout the stage with different contexts. The handheld helicopter thing appears at the beginning of the stage, there's not much punishment for failing. It's a short cut /determines what route you'll be on. Then it appears again, but this time with spikes you have to navigate through. and the third time is for the same reason as the first but with a death pit.
Water Palace Act 2 (the Modern Sonic version) actually reuses the stage layout of Water Palace Act 1 from Sonic Rush, so it's not just the Genesis era that was entirely copy-pasted.
Sonic Rush was PEAK. And shoutout to the Advance games too
I played through Generations 3DS recently and I found it a decent Sonic Game. From what I heard about the others though then that it is probably accurate about them. Generations 3DS is LOADS better than something like Rise of Lyric for example. EDIT: Just watched through his 3ds Generations bit and most of his gripes are in comparison to other Sonic Games. Also, comparing the 3DS Generations to the console one is unfair as there WASN'T one for a Nintendo Console.
"The 3DS Had No Good Sonic Games"
Sega 3D Classics Collection: Am I a joke to you?
The originals, not the ports.
Fire and ice was my first sonic game and I still play it to this day.
Generations 3Ds was pretty good imo, I’ve actually wanted to go back to it, but I definitely recognize it has flaws
As a major Sonic the Hedgehog fan, I will shamefully admit, other than the Gamegear games, I have never played any handheld Sonic games. In fact, the Gameboy Color was the last handheld console I had..... I havent played anything Nintendo (seriously) since like... 2002 maybe. In fact I have never played a Nintendo system... In fact in fact... I still have never played a Zelda game.... Or Metroid.
J, I think something you'd be interested in is a fully fledged port of Sonic Unleashed to the 3DS!! Maybe you'd like to cover it once it's complete?
Hey J, are you going to review Mega Man X Dive Offline? The game seems much more enjoyable now that it has proper progression.
i just came up with 2 sonic boom game ideas that would have probably saved the side serie
Sonic boom: eggmania. The gameplay would be similar to that of rise of lyric but more finished. The main threat is simply eggman so it’s basically the show but playable. All (eggman)robots that appear in the show will also make an appearance.
Second one is Sonic boom: metal supreme. The new threat is a robot from the future that looks like mecha sonic but darker. It works with eggman and combines with his robots to make them stronger. The final encounter is between sonic and metal supreme where sonic makes a sonic boom and gets super charged (with blue eyes) to make a chance at destroying metal supreme. After the fight metal supreme simply fades away after sending one last message.
Sonic Generations was great on 3DS.
btw. u dont get homing attack for classic in console gens for getting ALL RSR's, only the ones in Planet Wisp Act 1.
I thought Generations was a decent time-killer at least. Still have it installed on my own 3DS. But then this was still the time when the portable versions of game titles were often going to be the lesser versions due to hardware limitations or what-have-you, something which Nintendo seems to have finally rendered mute with the Switch and only needing to develop titles for a single system now.
On the other hand I do have to agree that not including recreations of any of the levels from the Game Gear or Advance games in the portable Generations was always an extremely missed opportunity.
I still to this day don't understand how I beat lost world on the 3ds and thought it was chill.
I find it ironic that when you mentioned "every Playstation console", you literally left out their only successful Portable console from the compilation of game covers.
I think it's really funny how in Lost World 3DS the signature rings you collect aren't even 3D models, they're heavily-compressed looping PNG's plastered all over the levels, which doesn't do the already not good 3DS version any favors.
Which is a thing you will only notice playing on an emulator
It could be argued that generations 3ds is good, but even so, it's one good game at best.
I standby that Lost World 3DS is better than Lost World WiiU
Cmon man Sonic Generations 3DS was very good, sure, both Sonics having 2D gameplay is weird but is also very good.
15:10 Funny, you did exactly what Sega did and made a poll to see which levels would make it into Generation (Shadow and Storybook games got excluded). Except you didnt stick to just Sonic Team games
Generations seems to be the best 3ds sonic game. Lost world on 3ds along with both boom games don't seem to be worthwhile games in the franchise, and I say that as a huge fan of every era of the franchise.