Hey I have 5 BGP motors. 4 have the numbers “0838” and 1 has “0738”. The one with the “0738” has a forged crank shaft. I think it’s the “07” at the beginning is what is the identification for the different crankshaft. Did the forged crank come out of that one with “07” at the beginning for you as well ? And has anyone else found the same thing?
@@y_just_y8317 I've gotta find another 2.5 long block for another project I'm working on, so I'll be pulling some oil pans at the junkyard to find a longblock with a forged crank already in it - I'll keep track of the numbers and post an update when the time comes.
@@y_just_y8317hey just as an update, I didn’t realize you meant the small 4 digit code that is separate from the serial number. In that case both cars with 0735, one of them was forged the other was not.
Yeah, but they’re not exactly $28 at the junk yard lol. Also you have to upgrade all the timing components to match the different style timing chain sprocket on the RS3 crank. The RS3 crank is lightened too, it’s a sexy crank for sure.
@@PBGarage thanks to Richard Holdener, we all know stock cast cranks can handle stupid amounts of power. Made like 1400hp on a sbe 6.0 ls. But if one were to do an all out 2.5 build, I guess a rs3 crank wouldn't be too bad. Probably easier to get, better parts availability, and since the 07k is so cheap, you'll still come out ahead
@@NatoriousGamePlay hold your horses there bud, the reason why the V8 cast cranks are so good has more to do with the fast that they're physically massive and have a lot of material and torque holding capacity. You're also dealing with 6 bolt mains for the LS (4 bolt for a BBC or SBC) but only 2 for the 07k. But the biggest thing you need to remember is that a 5 cylinder has a lot of funky harmonics and vibrations. Those will kill a crank real quick if you try and spin it too fast or with a lot of torque esp at lower RPMs.
Yes the first forged crank was in the 31-05-05 build date motor. I’ve just brought home another motor with a forged crank, and the build date on that one was 19-08-05.
The one I have with forged crank is 09-06-06 BGP 110840 I pick up a 08 motor that I guess I should check it out The one in my car is hard to tell. It’s 14-02-07 BGP 162366. Hard to tell because looks like someone did a good job a grinding down the seam from the forging process versus the other forged and non-forged cranks I’ve seen don’t seem like they have had as much grinding as this one did.
@@y_just_y8317 you know what’s weird is that recently someone sent me a marketplace listing for a “forged” crank, with 07k010e on the end of the crank but it clearly was a cast crankshaft. So either the one pic of the part number on the snout was “fake” and they were trying to pass off a cast as forged. Or some cast cranks have the forged part number on them.
@@booneylanderI can’t check part number on the one in my car but that’s sounds more like a scam. They could have two and used forged one for just picture of part number, unless u could tell in the picture of the part number ?
Any idea which BGP engine the forged crank came out of? the 109955* or the 049740? I'm on the search for one with a forged crank but unfortunately non of the engine recyclers around here let you pull off the oil pan so it's going to be a crap shoot. (Thanks for doing the research)!
Look at 4 number next to BGP is must have “07” at beginning example. 0738 should have a forged crank 0838 doesn’t not have one possibly. (UPDATE) Booney has discovered this to be untrue. Thank you
@@y_just_y8317just reviewing this info if you mean the 4 numbers on their own, bottom right, on the motor sticker… then both BGP motors had 0735 and one of them was forged the other was not. The CBTA had 0849 and obvi was not forged.
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Hey I have 5 BGP motors. 4 have the numbers “0838” and 1 has “0738”. The one with the “0738” has a forged crank shaft. I think it’s the “07” at the beginning is what is the identification for the different crankshaft.
Did the forged crank come out of that one with “07” at the beginning for you as well ?
And has anyone else found the same thing?
Yeah I’m pretty sure it came out of the 07 numbered motor.
@@PBGarageok so I think I may have figured it out with help of ur video, should make a update one of these times.
@@y_just_y8317 I've gotta find another 2.5 long block for another project I'm working on, so I'll be pulling some oil pans at the junkyard to find a longblock with a forged crank already in it - I'll keep track of the numbers and post an update when the time comes.
@@booneylander excellent, hopefully this will be it
@@y_just_y8317hey just as an update, I didn’t realize you meant the small 4 digit code that is separate from the serial number. In that case both cars with 0735, one of them was forged the other was not.
We need more 2.5 info. Thanks for posting
Lots more 2.5 stuff planned! Keep up the comments and motivate the boys!
Can’t wait to see a 07K build! Show me the light 🤩
Which car should be the first to get it though?
If only we had more Rabbits!
I like the appeal of a 07K E34 but we’ll see
@@bquattrog doooooo ittttttttttt what better way to pay homage to your original Audi 90 and Coupe Quattros.
07k in a B5/6/7 is the move🔥
Apparently the rs3 crank drops right in, but it's quite expensive. But I do believe it has more flywheel/clutch options
Yeah, but they’re not exactly $28 at the junk yard lol. Also you have to upgrade all the timing components to match the different style timing chain sprocket on the RS3 crank. The RS3 crank is lightened too, it’s a sexy crank for sure.
@@PBGarage thanks to Richard Holdener, we all know stock cast cranks can handle stupid amounts of power. Made like 1400hp on a sbe 6.0 ls.
But if one were to do an all out 2.5 build, I guess a rs3 crank wouldn't be too bad. Probably easier to get, better parts availability, and since the 07k is so cheap, you'll still come out ahead
@@NatoriousGamePlay hold your horses there bud, the reason why the V8 cast cranks are so good has more to do with the fast that they're physically massive and have a lot of material and torque holding capacity. You're also dealing with 6 bolt mains for the LS (4 bolt for a BBC or SBC) but only 2 for the 07k. But the biggest thing you need to remember is that a 5 cylinder has a lot of funky harmonics and vibrations. Those will kill a crank real quick if you try and spin it too fast or with a lot of torque esp at lower RPMs.
Get the VIN and check the build sheet of the car. It will show the part number prefix. Or the pan bolt
Where do you find the build sheet info?
could have been a new sump oil pan that came with new torx bolts as replacements for the old ones.
That too!
Was it found in the engine with the 31/05/05 build date? Maybe the crankshafts were forge in the earlier models up to the first half of 2006
Yes the first forged crank was in the 31-05-05 build date motor. I’ve just brought home another motor with a forged crank, and the build date on that one was 19-08-05.
The one I have with forged crank is 09-06-06 BGP 110840 I pick up a 08 motor that I guess I should check it out
The one in my car is hard to tell. It’s 14-02-07 BGP 162366. Hard to tell because looks like someone did a good job a grinding down the seam from the forging process versus the other forged and non-forged cranks I’ve seen don’t seem like they have had as much grinding as this one did.
@@y_just_y8317 you know what’s weird is that recently someone sent me a marketplace listing for a “forged” crank, with 07k010e on the end of the crank but it clearly was a cast crankshaft. So either the one pic of the part number on the snout was “fake” and they were trying to pass off a cast as forged. Or some cast cranks have the forged part number on them.
@@booneylanderI can’t check part number on the one in my car but that’s sounds more like a scam. They could have two and used forged one for just picture of part number, unless u could tell in the picture of the part number ?
@@y_just_y8317 couldn’t tell. It was certainly questionable.
Any idea which BGP engine the forged crank came out of? the 109955* or the 049740? I'm on the search for one with a forged crank but unfortunately non of the engine recyclers around here let you pull off the oil pan so it's going to be a crap shoot. (Thanks for doing the research)!
I’m like 95% sure it came out of the 049740 motor.
Look at 4 number next to BGP is must have “07” at beginning example. 0738 should have a forged crank 0838 doesn’t not have one possibly. (UPDATE) Booney has discovered this to be untrue. Thank you
@@y_just_y8317just reviewing this info if you mean the 4 numbers on their own, bottom right, on the motor sticker… then both BGP motors had 0735 and one of them was forged the other was not. The CBTA had 0849 and obvi was not forged.
Is it possible to take an Audi RSTT DAZA engine with a 07k3 blockhead and change it to a 07k block head will it fit???
I wish I could go be you a good answer to that but it’s above my pay grade….
Go and ask Hank from IROZ motorsports........ The guru in the 07k community.... He mismatches a lot of parts.....
ive read iirc euro spec daza is compatible but you should be able to align the gaskets to be certain
Mine is definitely forged crank 😅
Sweeet! Can you share the numbers on the sticker? Should be a date code of manufacture, and a 4 digit code like 0758 or something.
@@PBGarage where would that be at again?
@vw_2.5 there should be a white sticker on the valve cover.
It says 0735
@vw_2.5 awesome thanks!