as a roadhog main. my personal opinion is that kasumi is hard actually. if you are disabled or lost one of your arms. even blind ppl can play her and get at least a triple kill
As told by somebody who has never played her in comp. The fact that she has to be as close as a flank to lock on, which makes her vulnerable, can only lock on to one target at a time instead of spraying multiple targets, like most champs, and has a way of getting away that leaves the body sat there to be shot makes her one of the more difficult damage to play. Add to the fact that Hi-Rez nerfs her because people cant seem to learn to counter her.
@@voodootfs As someone who mostly plays Drogoz if I don't hit all 3 of my shots directly she will always kill me. Her DPS is just too strong for how much she can go against high movement champions. If I try to escape even with my burst and flying away she can still lock on to me so the range is pretty nuts for auto aim. Plus when in games with characters who can go invisible simply holding left click to kill them since you don't need to aim is another busted element of auto aim I think she needs something nerfed so characters with slower fire rates aren't required to have perfect aim or lose to her. Honestly she's a character who should've never left the ground floor but now that she's here to stay I'd either replace her auto aim with hitscan and slightly increased damage or dramatically reduce range so characters with high mobility and burst damage aren't guaranteed to die if they miss any part of her burst since they have a chance to escape if they didn't waste their movement ability
@@lunarheadcrab8265as a makoa main i agree, everyone has a forgiving hitbox except for him, he often wont pull even if u aim super well, and i think vora, io,nerd support and kesume are cringe
I primarily disagree with Rei's placement. Her entire kit is based around incredible utility of which ally or enemy she is linked to. She has to manage both who she's connected to (providing ultimate charge to key allies, or dealing minor damage or minor healing), and whether or not she will envelop- protecting allies, giving herself a speed boost for escape, or denying key enemies healing (or reducing damage taken from an enemy using card loadouts). A good Rei can protect herself and one other if caught in an ultimate, reduce damage taken and win a duel from an oncoming flank by linking to them, or fully-heal a crucial ally in a point fight with an ult, securing the victory. She's practically torvald, except for supports (who you put at medium difficulty BTW)! And to top if all off, her actual healing isn't intuitive at all either, as it pseudo-randomly bounces around multiple members of the team rather than simply hold rmb on a player. AND reducing the cooldown of said heal requires landing your primary fire shots on enemies (although I will concede her primary fire projectiles are huge and easy to land, so that's one thing easy about her). Her kit is totally unintuitive, and nowhere close to falling into the healbot trap like a seris or grover, which a new player would pick up much better and faster than Rei. In short, I'd put her in medium for her Extension talent, and Hard for her other two talents.
I think skyes position moves depending how experienced you are. Early, yes extremely easy, but the moment you play with anything even resembling expriance you have to play with brains, like you have to be very aware about when people can actually see you. ironically skye becomes hard to play because there is so many ways to counter her.
As a Vatu main: this pleases me lol Quick tip; this is for those who don’t already know but if you throw Vatu’s kunai directly up or down, the spread is very minimized. Because of this, my play style is primarily dashing up and shooting down and with the 3rd talent, I’m basically challenging Drogoz players for aerial superiority.
As a Damba main and flank enjoyer, this tierlist is great tbh. Also I hope Kasumi gets a better movement hability her current one feels like "press f to lose".
As someone who started playing this week, street justice really does make Maeve really easy to pick up. I've moved on now, but it made learning a lot more fun and straightforward
I’m a BK main. I don’t think he’s that hard, I would’ve put him medium. He’s got good damage, a stun tool, an escape tool and a solid ult. The only thing I see tricky about him is timing your explosions, but once you learn those you’re good to go.
Dude I appreciate your videos. I played Paladins for hundreds of hours years ago. I started playing again last week and didn’t really know where to start. Your content has helped me get a grip on how the game has changed. I used to main Barik/Makoa as tank and Grover/Mal’Damba/Grohk as healer. I’ve been using Seris and she’s really good, and easy to understand lol. Haven’t queued for tank yet. Anyway, thank you very much for your work here.
5:46 watching your tier list I realized that some people Deverve 2 placement due to skill floors and skill ceilings. Dredge is definitely one of those people, yes spamming broadside with a tp is easy anyone can do it, but have you ever came across a really good dredge player, those are incredibly frustrating, they can actually hit their shots with LMB, they probably have mastered the flying movement tech with his RMB and he probably has the best tp placement. Yes dredge has a low SKILL FLOOR but if you even see a truly good dredge you might as well go afk because unless you group up and swarm him he is really hard to kill Edit: Same with lian, people *oH aIm BoT eAsY cHaMp* but those same people are both flank mains and have never played her primary fire with precision talent, sure she has aim bit but when that aim bot is on cool down can you actually hit your shot? Probably not, she probably deserves medium
Oh god, Do I agree with you! Dredge has so much potential with the knockback card and his 3rd talent. Same with Lian, It may be just because I suck at hitscans, but I can't aim with her primary fire!
I think the issue with Cassie and Sha Lin is the fact that you can understand their basekits, but another part of them is having good aim. Having good aim with those 2 characters is hard. I went against many bad cassies/sha lins that can't hit you, even when you are in front of them. But when they are good, a rolling cassie and a desert silence/sand trap sha lin can hit you no matter the distance. And usually, they never miss. So I will place them a rank above of their current position. For ying, i played the most with lying and io, and for me io is more complicated than ying. Maldamba is very hard. I am trying to master him, but compared to ying, ying is below him. For me ying is medium.
Ying is so good shes my healer main since her clones can chase or when u swap with a clone and your not using the second talent they take a lot of dmg and then you or your teammates can kill em or if u are using the second talent u can heal your teammates a lot and retreat or confuse your enemies with the swapping ability
I find it neat that the starting champions are mostly some of the easiest in their role, and if a new player wants to learn their role, they have a simple character to use. Unless it’s frontline in which case you are stuck with ruckus until you buy Barik (unless they added Fernando as a base champion to paladins). Edit: never mind apparently since I last checked they completely overhauled the starting champions, but Viktor and Lex are still starters at least).
I’m a Lillith 🦇main and I personally believe she’s about the same tier as IO. I don’t believe she’s very hard to play, her first talent allows her to put out a lot of healing and I rarely find myself out of blood for my abilities. She’s definitely fun to play👻
I am an andro spammer, I recently have been spamming Maeve and trying to get her to 50. Im having so much fun, she's really strong and I feel the only champion with 3 viable talents. I feel CB is the strongest but SJ and RG can be situational too and extremely fun
I kinda agree with this list. My Mains are as follows- Tank- Ruckus ( Sorry Makoa, you’ve been Replaced. ), Damage- Betty ( Sorry Vivian, you’ve been Replaced ) Flank- Maeve and Support- Grover ( my Favorite Character ). I feel it’s because I play Overwatch, too. So some of these guys are similar.
I agree with you about bomb king since you need to master that bomb aim and rocket jumping- i mean bomb jumping but his last talent makes him so powerful due too quick stuns that lead too easy kills which is such a easy thing too do
The easiest are the ones with the complete toolsets. Flight (not ground locked), movement speed, damage, execution ability (ability to finish low hp players), and most importantly an escape. The hardest are the ones that have little to none of these things.
as someone whos been playing bomb king for 6 years tbh he was never that hard just takes an hour of playing him to learn how to aim if even, and learn how to use his movement right.
Drogoz main here. Learning him is not easy. Positioning is not an easy things to learn it require lots of practical experience to play well. Currently I'm lvl 40 and if I got caught by a diving flank I'm very likely dead. Quote from another online guide "the only decent Drogoz players I have seen are above 60 in level". Is he hard? Yes. But damn if he is so fun to play.
So... you put Octavia and Andro above Pip based off of their skill ceilings, but left Pip in hard based off his skill floor? Cause all of his mobility tech requires significantly more time to master than Andro dash flicking or whatever Octavias have to learn to do.
As a Willow main, yes, i would also say that Willo is medium. She's easy to understand but to be a good Willo you have to position yourself so good, and always use your fly ability to keep height and always throw your bombs at the walls and NOT on the ground so it explodes before touching the ground and it's more difficult to see for the enemy team
Fernando my fav champ of all time. Also im using Atlas as point tank and hes really hard to kill, first chronos to 3 then heaven then resi/rejuv/veteran. Like, you have a thicc shield for 5 sec, rewind and reboot. After shield ends you rewind if you need then you reboot enemies amd now your shield is up again and healing you. Now you have to survive for 7,25 sec until rewind is avaiable which can be managed with a proper team. The only tank that counters me in the beginning is raum cuz of sustain. But if u wanna counter raum's sustain just take Fernando, raum cant heal if shooting shield. Im a ps4 player and have been playing Fernando for so long i've ended as 3rd Fernando on the entire platform and was 1 win from first place once, i played solo only like 4-5h every day for the entire season. Log in, 1 casual warmup, FERNANDO TIME. I could enjoy just playing Fernando the entire year. My highest level is like 50-60 Drogoz (my first main and my aim SUCKS on joystick) and other few are 40 the rest is 20-ish while Fernando is 113 lvl xD The reason to play him was he was the first tank i saw. Looked cool, had cool lines. Often times people would thank me after match for playing good as a tank. So, i continued being the good Fernando cause i never felt so appreciated. Tanks are the best class plus Fernando is super fun, i've experienced several exciting and intense matches similar to paladins top play where Fernando resisted SO HARD on the point.
As a damba main, I can confirm he has carried me in many many lost games. He is super intuitive, but when ur decisions are made correctly, he can drop 200k+ healing consistently
As a damba main, I like to place the gourd in where I predict other players will go and not to where they currently are. 😂😂a good Damba can be god's gift to the team. The only thing im struggling with Damba is healing fast moving allies like maeve or lex..
As someone who only played Team Fortress 2 most of the time, Fernado is the closest thing to Pyro for most people except that he has a shield and a fireball, Yagorath seems like a cool class to me but he is probably hard to master.
I just started playing the game and ying is 100% my favorite. It's so much fun using the illusions to deal massive dmg and also heal a lot at the same time. I actually managed to master illusion teleporting so I can go in send one illusion attack and then teleport 2 times to send 2 more illusions doing massive dmg and getting out without dying. It's the most fun i ever had with any other paladin and it is actually also the easiest for me. I also really like to play the worm queen ^v^
With ying I'm many times the best dmg dealer and healer at the same time xd I just love her! It's also fun to annoy the enemy with illusions tracking them down >:3
Problem with raum is there’s so many counters. Consider yourself lucky if you pick him and there’s not at least one counter on the other team. I’d say he belongs in medium just because this game has so much cc to stop him.
As a ying main i can completely agree but if you learn how to play her shes super easy in my opinion ying is the best healer i ever used you can teleport say khan picked you up and you have an illusion thats still alive and he throws you off the edge you can live but it all depends if the illusion dies aslo its how and where you place your ilssuions you dont want all on point in seige or in team death match put them in corners and stuff instead on right infront since they will die easily however some you can place in front some can be in corners and other hidden places
Some characters might be easy but what matters the most if they are fun or not I'd say easy spammy characters aren't interesting at all, but characters like Seris despite having a simple playstyle or kit still can be really fun and good
I am surprised to see vatu so high, I picked him up when he first came into the game and I’ve been dominating with him ever since. He never seemed that difficult for me to use but idk, maybe I just have a knack for him. I was a Maeve main before that and I play them pretty similarly so that might have something to do with it
As a IO main, ans Sup main, i would say that the most healers are Hard to play with the new Anti heals system, cuz you have to know where to stand and even wich mate you gona heal first with 90% anti heal, but when it is only to understand how to play the character i would agree with the Ranking, but when it comes to do the Support things i would place many Champions on other spots like Jenos on Very hard
Only one I would disagree on is Ying, cause once you learn illusion placement she gets alot easier (it more changes on the talent/ but I would personally put her in mid to hard)
What would you rate flank pip, mainly flanking using "potion launcher knockback teck"? =o His knockback teck can give you a speed boost/make you travel further and/or faster, if used correctly
I personally dont find Evie to be that hard, she can almost always escape from danger. Also for some reason I'm too stupid to do any good on andro who I find to be the hardest char in the game
I disagree with maeves placement, just hit masters playing Rouge Gambit in ranked today and i think she's more around the medium range because I feel she has a decent large learning curve But I do agree with what you said about depending in the talent, So here's my ranking Cat burglar: Hard due to the fact sometimes you can have your escapes cut away you might kill someone but you will usually die when an escape is cut away from you rg fixes this problem by adding to burst dmg to get out when needed Street justice:easy hit left click 2 times and there you go 1 right click and another kill Rouge Gambit: Easyish in-between wasy and medium, it'd about your build with a good build it can be fairly easy to play, to actually pure garbage don't play
What would a good RG load out be? I play Maeve on occasion and usually stick to street justice just because CB doesnt seem worth the trade off of losing an escape tool (especially when against the average combatant you need 4 knife hits and a pounce. Same as SJ only you can't take out tanks) and I can see how in a really good players hands RG could be the best but it feels like going SJ and using a 9 lives to escape if needed would be much more consistent. From a non RG perspective it seems like the talent has 2 big uses. 1. Get multiple champions very low and bounce between them like a pinball 2. Get a kill with pounce then immediately pounce away
@@happyvalentine4008 I originally copied one of Techno's really old builds of Savagery 2 scamper 3 six sense 5 walk it off 2 chase 3, But now I run Savagery 3, chase 3 six sense 4 walk it off 3 street cred 2 mostly cause I saw I needed a little More health (This is If your Maeving in to higher non splash champs) or Savagery 3 scamper 3six sense 4 walk it off 3 chase 2 this is a more mobile maeve (this is for more splash dmg so that you can get out of AOE area faster)
most direct attack champions are hardest for me mainly cause aim but that probably cause my dpi 4200 and my sens around 20 to 30 didn't know that was high when i first started playing on pc so i mostly just play main characters that don't require too much aim like ash, Evie and vora although i can play cassie and saati alright but when i play most matches get paired with ppl few hundred lvls above me cause my account level 200 so end up just using my mains
@@soldierzoom see thing is it doesnt matter how good your aim is if your usin a projectile like evie it means nothing because if you have your cursor on someone and shoot its not gonna hit them like other characters
@@soldierzoom when using a projectile champion you have to predict there movements which is why its harder then just tracking which is why I find people like evie and drogoz significantly harder then any character with a gun
Once the balance changes hit I definitely think she’s gonna be hard to play. If her main weapon is gonna be aim/trigger bot, it likely won’t do nearly as much damage in future patches and she will have to rely on her traps and team to get opportunities
Seris: Just use "m2" to heal, "F" to escape from anything, "Q" to heal yourself and incapacitate the opponent and "E" to help your team Do this and you will be a proplayer Seris seris is ridiculous
I think vivian gets a lot of underserved hate, i mean she is boring to play but the sensor can do plenty of stuff and decent vivian players can have a huge impact with sensor placement. But all of vivians plus sides drown in the unfortunate fact that you can just take some scotch tape and fix m1 down and press w and you'd be just fine..
But zhin is mainly good at living....thats the point it doesn't make him necessarily easy (Also his alt is used for movement because in a lot of cases you have to Good vid tho
As me i had picked skye as the best champ she got a lot of ability to escape but also she is not that easy it's ofcourse depends of the type of enemies u playing w i have seen works struggling to be a good players buy Skye it's worth my time i enjoyed
This list is all over the place. Like for starters you need to explain what makes them hard to you. Need to be reasonable. Andro is not very hard compared say evie or Maeve.
i main dredge: and tbh i dont see him in easy because if you just spam left click your doing something wrong he needs good positioning and 2 of his talents dont allow you to 1v1 a flank like he is easy to pick up but he is hard to master not just because his left click damages himself if it hits him(not like betty) but even tho he has a teleport its his only movement ability so i would put him hard/very hard if you consider that his 1st talent make you useless untill you have reload speed 60% and his last talent need an extremly good map knowledge and aim and eve if you go his must used talent where he trows his spear that thing has a hitbox that is not the biggest and has a range limit so he cant do anything against sniper like strix/kinessa/lian etc (thats my opinion i love to debate and take it lighty :D)
Ayo i have the exact same skin on terminus as the one you used for gameplay or whatever also Maeve: Very hard. who doesn't use rogues justice unless they don't got it they don't know what they're doing
You said Kasumi is very hard because she has traps, but 2 seconds before you said Viv is easy but she has traps with Booby Trap..! Try setting 2 traps in 1 position, lure enemy to chase you, then boom, instant 1200 dmg! Dredge also can set a trap.
Wait, you weren't joking with the Kasumi placement? I thought for sure it was a joke, Kasumi is the easiest dps to play period, you only press left click and look near an enemy and the champion plays itself. Also, Androxus on the same level as Evie or Vatu just doesn't seem right. Androxus is a hitscan, just with that it is leagues easier than them, not to count that with Cursed Revolver you get a reveal, damage over time and one of the highest dps in the game so I fial to see him as hard. The rest of them are about right, I slightly disagree with some but mainly on these I pointed out (and maybe you underestimated combat medic Pip, he's the hardest support period, harder than Damba even though Damba is one of my favorite champs). Still, interesting video.
Atlas. Let's stun a person at low hp so my team can't kill them. Or let's rewind a low hp person to God knows where cause he didn't get resilience and got sent to spawn
okay stop trashing so much on Kasumi the only complex part about her is the passive I know that you need to learn map awareness to fully unlock the potential of her q and like where enemies are gonna flank but if you are really not into that just use her spirit lure talent also I feel like her movement ability is more for scouting rather than being a movement ability like you can peek where the sniper is shooting at without dying also her ult isn't that bad when you cast it on an enemy they immediately get 5 stacks and everyone that gets hit by the projectiles also get 5 stacks and when an enemy has 5 stacks they do less damage you can disarm you do more damage and the person who got hit with her ult also takes damage overtime also the person who got hit by the projectiles get damaged over time so you can easily execute them with ur right click so she's not that bad also if your really struggling with her escape just get 1 or 2 healing cards she is the perfect 1v1 champ
19:30 for some reason at the end of the video the music got louder :/
It probably bugged so WARNING IN COMING EARRAPE 😂
got a heart attack
its on tiktok mode 💀
It's so funny because we can barely hear you the music is overpowering
Too late lol
Is this an attempt at censoring what you said about these champions :D
as a roadhog main. my personal opinion is that kasumi is hard actually. if you are disabled or lost one of your arms. even blind ppl can play her and get at least a triple kill
As told by somebody who has never played her in comp. The fact that she has to be as close as a flank to lock on, which makes her vulnerable, can only lock on to one target at a time instead of spraying multiple targets, like most champs, and has a way of getting away that leaves the body sat there to be shot makes her one of the more difficult damage to play. Add to the fact that Hi-Rez nerfs her because people cant seem to learn to counter her.
@@voodootfs As someone who mostly plays Drogoz if I don't hit all 3 of my shots directly she will always kill me. Her DPS is just too strong for how much she can go against high movement champions. If I try to escape even with my burst and flying away she can still lock on to me so the range is pretty nuts for auto aim. Plus when in games with characters who can go invisible simply holding left click to kill them since you don't need to aim is another busted element of auto aim
I think she needs something nerfed so characters with slower fire rates aren't required to have perfect aim or lose to her. Honestly she's a character who should've never left the ground floor but now that she's here to stay I'd either replace her auto aim with hitscan and slightly increased damage or dramatically reduce range so characters with high mobility and burst damage aren't guaranteed to die if they miss any part of her burst since they have a chance to escape if they didn't waste their movement ability
as a roadhog player do you main Makoa on Paladins or do you play another champion ?
Makoa's hook is ass compared to Roadhog
@@lunarheadcrab8265as a makoa main i agree, everyone has a forgiving hitbox except for him, he often wont pull even if u aim super well, and i think vora, io,nerd support and kesume are cringe
I primarily disagree with Rei's placement. Her entire kit is based around incredible utility of which ally or enemy she is linked to. She has to manage both who she's connected to (providing ultimate charge to key allies, or dealing minor damage or minor healing), and whether or not she will envelop- protecting allies, giving herself a speed boost for escape, or denying key enemies healing (or reducing damage taken from an enemy using card loadouts). A good Rei can protect herself and one other if caught in an ultimate, reduce damage taken and win a duel from an oncoming flank by linking to them, or fully-heal a crucial ally in a point fight with an ult, securing the victory. She's practically torvald, except for supports (who you put at medium difficulty BTW)! And to top if all off, her actual healing isn't intuitive at all either, as it pseudo-randomly bounces around multiple members of the team rather than simply hold rmb on a player. AND reducing the cooldown of said heal requires landing your primary fire shots on enemies (although I will concede her primary fire projectiles are huge and easy to land, so that's one thing easy about her). Her kit is totally unintuitive, and nowhere close to falling into the healbot trap like a seris or grover, which a new player would pick up much better and faster than Rei. In short, I'd put her in medium for her Extension talent, and Hard for her other two talents.
yeah I use extension Rei when I want to chill but I usually use focus most of the time when I want to go serious
Cope. Rei is braindead.
as some one who also reis she can easily be brain dead easy. just extenion rush chronos and heals go brrr
Agreed. There’s a difference between skill floor and skill ceiling
@@Kazzujin you’re confusing skill floor with skill ceiling
I think skyes position moves depending how experienced you are.
Early, yes extremely easy, but the moment you play with anything even resembling expriance you have to play with brains, like you have to be very aware about when people can actually see you.
ironically skye becomes hard to play because there is so many ways to counter her.
She's nearly impossible to play against high skill players. Her kit is devoid of pretty much every thing a kit would need. She's ranked wrong.
As a Vatu main: this pleases me lol
Quick tip; this is for those who don’t already know but if you throw Vatu’s kunai directly up or down, the spread is very minimized. Because of this, my play style is primarily dashing up and shooting down and with the 3rd talent, I’m basically challenging Drogoz players for aerial superiority.
Ok so im not the only one to not touch grass on Vatu
@@Kfadro yep lol
Ayy
Does the card that increases his jump help with this?
@@biancatorres5528 i dont use that card
I use healing by dash 5 card
As a Damba main and flank enjoyer, this tierlist is great tbh.
Also I hope Kasumi gets a better movement hability her current one feels like "press f to lose".
As someone who started playing this week, street justice really does make Maeve really easy to pick up. I've moved on now, but it made learning a lot more fun and straightforward
I’m a BK main. I don’t think he’s that hard, I would’ve put him medium. He’s got good damage, a stun tool, an escape tool and a solid ult. The only thing I see tricky about him is timing your explosions, but once you learn those you’re good to go.
Dude I appreciate your videos. I played Paladins for hundreds of hours years ago. I started playing again last week and didn’t really know where to start. Your content has helped me get a grip on how the game has changed.
I used to main Barik/Makoa as tank and Grover/Mal’Damba/Grohk as healer. I’ve been using Seris and she’s really good, and easy to understand lol. Haven’t queued for tank yet.
Anyway, thank you very much for your work here.
5:46 watching your tier list I realized that some people Deverve 2 placement due to skill floors and skill ceilings.
Dredge is definitely one of those people, yes spamming broadside with a tp is easy anyone can do it, but have you ever came across a really good dredge player, those are incredibly frustrating, they can actually hit their shots with LMB, they probably have mastered the flying movement tech with his RMB and he probably has the best tp placement.
Yes dredge has a low SKILL FLOOR but if you even see a truly good dredge you might as well go afk because unless you group up and swarm him he is really hard to kill
Edit: Same with lian, people *oH aIm BoT eAsY cHaMp* but those same people are both flank mains and have never played her primary fire with precision talent, sure she has aim bit but when that aim bot is on cool down can you actually hit your shot? Probably not, she probably deserves medium
Oh god, Do I agree with you! Dredge has so much potential with the knockback card and his 3rd talent.
Same with Lian, It may be just because I suck at hitscans, but I can't aim with her primary fire!
A good lian deleted people.
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Vii? Medium?! He's ultra easy...thats why I stopped using him so damn op a flank shouldn't be doing that much damage
I think the issue with Cassie and Sha Lin is the fact that you can understand their basekits, but another part of them is having good aim. Having good aim with those 2 characters is hard. I went against many bad cassies/sha lins that can't hit you, even when you are in front of them. But when they are good, a rolling cassie and a desert silence/sand trap sha lin can hit you no matter the distance. And usually, they never miss. So I will place them a rank above of their current position. For ying, i played the most with lying and io, and for me io is more complicated than ying. Maldamba is very hard. I am trying to master him, but compared to ying, ying is below him. For me ying is medium.
I love ying so much. I wish more people knew how to play her
Ying is so good shes my healer main since her clones can chase or when u swap with a clone and your not using the second talent they take a lot of dmg and then you or your teammates can kill em or if u are using the second talent u can heal your teammates a lot and retreat or confuse your enemies with the swapping ability
I swear I get worse at Ying with every match I try her 😂
I find it neat that the starting champions are mostly some of the easiest in their role, and if a new player wants to learn their role, they have a simple character to use. Unless it’s frontline in which case you are stuck with ruckus until you buy Barik (unless they added Fernando as a base champion to paladins). Edit: never mind apparently since I last checked they completely overhauled the starting champions, but Viktor and Lex are still starters at least).
5:46 Which is exactly why he was my main when I started
My damage main is Sha now
I’m a Lillith 🦇main and I personally believe she’s about the same tier as IO. I don’t believe she’s very hard to play, her first talent allows her to put out a lot of healing and I rarely find myself out of blood for my abilities. She’s definitely fun to play👻
ahah wanna play?
i appreciate that u said people underestimate talus. (as a biast talus main)
kasumi escape isnt not suppose be used as a escape in the moment but before they ever get close to you
I am an andro spammer, I recently have been spamming Maeve and trying to get her to 50. Im having so much fun, she's really strong and I feel the only champion with 3 viable talents. I feel CB is the strongest but SJ and RG can be situational too and extremely fun
maeve my beloved, i love executing tanks
Loving the anime music, I heard Crossing Field start and thought I was losing my mind lol
I feel proud of myself as an Evie main, she's fairly easy to kill based on her health but if she's got healing in any capacity, good luck.
FR SHES SO EASY TO KILL, BUT THE SECOND A HEALER IS THERE I WANT TO CRY
Stg healbot Jenos players with an Evie is the bane of my existence
This tierlist for new players is pretty good but if this was for veterans then imma have some things to say.
I kinda agree with this list. My Mains are as follows- Tank- Ruckus ( Sorry Makoa, you’ve been Replaced. ), Damage- Betty ( Sorry Vivian, you’ve been Replaced ) Flank- Maeve and Support- Grover ( my Favorite Character ). I feel it’s because I play Overwatch, too. So some of these guys are similar.
I agree with you about bomb king since you need to master that bomb aim and rocket jumping- i mean bomb jumping but his last talent makes him so powerful due too quick stuns that lead too easy kills which is such a easy thing too do
The easiest are the ones with the complete toolsets. Flight (not ground locked), movement speed, damage, execution ability (ability to finish low hp players), and most importantly an escape. The hardest are the ones that have little to none of these things.
as someone whos been playing bomb king for 6 years tbh he was never that hard just takes an hour of playing him to learn how to aim if even, and learn how to use his movement right.
13:32 finally the Moji main teaches us the difficulty of Moji
Drogoz main here. Learning him is not easy. Positioning is not an easy things to learn it require lots of practical experience to play well. Currently I'm lvl 40 and if I got caught by a diving flank I'm very likely dead. Quote from another online guide "the only decent Drogoz players I have seen are above 60 in level". Is he hard? Yes. But damn if he is so fun to play.
love ur vids bro so fun to watch :)
WHY IS THE END SO LOUD LMFAOO
i was wondering the same ;-;
So... you put Octavia and Andro above Pip based off of their skill ceilings, but left Pip in hard based off his skill floor? Cause all of his mobility tech requires significantly more time to master than Andro dash flicking or whatever Octavias have to learn to do.
As a Willow main, yes, i would also say that Willo is medium. She's easy to understand but to be a good Willo you have to position yourself so good, and always use your fly ability to keep height and always throw your bombs at the walls and NOT on the ground so it explodes before touching the ground and it's more difficult to see for the enemy team
Fernando my fav champ of all time. Also im using Atlas as point tank and hes really hard to kill, first chronos to 3 then heaven then resi/rejuv/veteran. Like, you have a thicc shield for 5 sec, rewind and reboot. After shield ends you rewind if you need then you reboot enemies amd now your shield is up again and healing you. Now you have to survive for 7,25 sec until rewind is avaiable which can be managed with a proper team. The only tank that counters me in the beginning is raum cuz of sustain. But if u wanna counter raum's sustain just take Fernando, raum cant heal if shooting shield. Im a ps4 player and have been playing Fernando for so long i've ended as 3rd Fernando on the entire platform and was 1 win from first place once, i played solo only like 4-5h every day for the entire season. Log in, 1 casual warmup, FERNANDO TIME. I could enjoy just playing Fernando the entire year. My highest level is like 50-60 Drogoz (my first main and my aim SUCKS on joystick) and other few are 40 the rest is 20-ish while Fernando is 113 lvl xD The reason to play him was he was the first tank i saw. Looked cool, had cool lines. Often times people would thank me after match for playing good as a tank. So, i continued being the good Fernando cause i never felt so appreciated. Tanks are the best class plus Fernando is super fun, i've experienced several exciting and intense matches similar to paladins top play where Fernando resisted SO HARD on the point.
Paladins top 5 plays episode 139. Half the clip is about Fernando. The main reason why im able to enjoy him to the fullest.
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As a damba main, I can confirm he has carried me in many many lost games. He is super intuitive, but when ur decisions are made correctly, he can drop 200k+ healing consistently
As a damba main, I like to place the gourd in where I predict other players will go and not to where they currently are. 😂😂a good Damba can be god's gift to the team. The only thing im struggling with Damba is healing fast moving allies like maeve or lex..
As someone who only played Team Fortress 2 most of the time, Fernado is the closest thing to Pyro for most people except that he has a shield and a fireball, Yagorath seems like a cool class to me but he is probably hard to master.
Yago main here, it took me like 3 days to play her well, really putting all of her abilities to good use, mastering will take time though
got by screamer at the end
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I just started playing the game and ying is 100% my favorite. It's so much fun using the illusions to deal massive dmg and also heal a lot at the same time. I actually managed to master illusion teleporting so I can go in send one illusion attack and then teleport 2 times to send 2 more illusions doing massive dmg and getting out without dying. It's the most fun i ever had with any other paladin and it is actually also the easiest for me. I also really like to play the worm queen ^v^
With ying I'm many times the best dmg dealer and healer at the same time xd
I just love her!
It's also fun to annoy the enemy with illusions tracking them down >:3
Problem with raum is there’s so many counters. Consider yourself lucky if you pick him and there’s not at least one counter on the other team. I’d say he belongs in medium just because this game has so much cc to stop him.
Bomb King is only hard if you have dial up internet
good vid like every single one
As a ying main i can completely agree but if you learn how to play her shes super easy in my opinion ying is the best healer i ever used you can teleport say khan picked you up and you have an illusion thats still alive and he throws you off the edge you can live but it all depends if the illusion dies aslo its how and where you place your ilssuions you dont want all on point in seige or in team death match put them in corners and stuff instead on right infront since they will die easily however some you can place in front some can be in corners and other hidden places
Some characters might be easy but what matters the most if they are fun or not
I'd say easy spammy characters aren't interesting at all, but characters like Seris despite having a simple playstyle or kit still can be really fun and good
The Demon Slayer music in the back 😂❤
As a mal'damba main i can confirm
I am surprised to see vatu so high, I picked him up when he first came into the game and I’ve been dominating with him ever since. He never seemed that difficult for me to use but idk, maybe I just have a knack for him. I was a Maeve main before that and I play them pretty similarly so that might have something to do with it
Should I be worried that my main champs in DPS, Flank and Supp are Bk, Evie and Damba? 😅
It just feels so bad to miss a shot with Cassie when dueling like viktor or tyra because you’ll probably be dead before you can get another shot off
I have to play this game again because some character rankings I don’t agree.
Glad I mained Maeve with rogues gambit from the whole beginning :)
in the end the music gets so loud :D
good tierlist tho
Fucking tokyo ghoul opening music in background xD
i agree 👍 great vid
On console its champion with shoot travel time more hardest to play
Evie,maeve etc...
Hitscan like Lex,koga Andro is easy cause Big aim assist HS
As a IO main, ans Sup main, i would say that the most healers are Hard to play with the new Anti heals system, cuz you have to know where to stand and even wich mate you gona heal first with 90% anti heal, but when it is only to understand how to play the character i would agree with the Ranking, but when it comes to do the Support things i would place many Champions on other spots like Jenos on Very hard
KirbZM ranking an easy character: OK DUDE
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I always say “you can play and understand someone, but do you play them well?”
I wouldn’t say ruckus is that hard to play with
Only one I would disagree on is Ying, cause once you learn illusion placement she gets alot easier (it more changes on the talent/ but I would personally put her in mid to hard)
Agreed, she just definitely has a lot more tech than most of the roster
What would you rate flank pip, mainly flanking using "potion launcher knockback teck"? =o
His knockback teck can give you a speed boost/make you travel further and/or faster, if used correctly
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Pretty new player, i love playing as sky, furia and torvald, i wanna get into irimani (the dragon girl) is She worth it?
I personally dont find Evie to be that hard, she can almost always escape from danger. Also for some reason I'm too stupid to do any good on andro who I find to be the hardest char in the game
If you master Evie, I will personally give you 100$ xd
@@jorgecastillo5958 there's a big gap between doing good and mastering evie, also I mostly play her to have fun with otm
What anime is the background song from? It's ringing in my head just can't piece it together... is it naruto?
Yh definitely naruto.. different seasons
Tokyo ghoul
its the lofi version of gurenge from demon slayer
As an Evie main since day 1... I am surprised that everybody calls her one of the hardest characters to play
Oh good for you! 👏😠😠😠😠 (Jealous)
im surprised ying is placed as very hard tbh
Boy did that kasumi placement age like milk.
Give me one reason why i should make a comeback in paladins after not playing it for 3-4 years?
16:00 I feel VII is super hard after his nerf in New patch I can no longer play him
Hallo, i want to come bqck playing paladin again. It is still worth it? Or i just play ow2?
i would put dredge in medium tbh , just cause his teleport tactics u can use
Androxus? Very hard? Bro im gone
Yeah I consider him the hardest character to master imo
RAUM EASY?! bro, firstplayes of raum just going in fight and dying, i would put him in gard or medium
i am an evie main she is pretty hard to play but you will learn it when you play more but here worst part is HP
As a Corvus main and healer main, I think all healers are hard because of the caut update awhile back. And corvus > furia :)
I disagree with maeves placement, just hit masters playing Rouge Gambit in ranked today and i think she's more around the medium range because I feel she has a decent large learning curve
But I do agree with what you said about depending in the talent,
So here's my ranking
Cat burglar: Hard due to the fact sometimes you can have your escapes cut away you might kill someone but you will usually die when an escape is cut away from you rg fixes this problem by adding to burst dmg to get out when needed
Street justice:easy hit left click 2 times and there you go 1 right click and another kill
Rouge Gambit: Easyish in-between wasy and medium, it'd about your build with a good build it can be fairly easy to play, to actually pure garbage don't play
What would a good RG load out be? I play Maeve on occasion and usually stick to street justice just because CB doesnt seem worth the trade off of losing an escape tool (especially when against the average combatant you need 4 knife hits and a pounce. Same as SJ only you can't take out tanks) and I can see how in a really good players hands RG could be the best but it feels like going SJ and using a 9 lives to escape if needed would be much more consistent.
From a non RG perspective it seems like the talent has 2 big uses.
1. Get multiple champions very low and bounce between them like a pinball
2. Get a kill with pounce then immediately pounce away
@@happyvalentine4008 I originally copied one of Techno's really old builds of Savagery 2 scamper 3 six sense 5 walk it off 2 chase 3,
But now I run Savagery 3, chase 3 six sense 4 walk it off 3 street cred 2 mostly cause I saw I needed a little More health
(This is If your Maeving in to higher non splash champs) or Savagery 3 scamper 3six sense 4 walk it off 3 chase 2 this is a more mobile maeve (this is for more splash dmg so that you can get out of AOE area faster)
most direct attack champions are hardest for me mainly cause aim but that probably cause my dpi 4200 and my sens around 20 to 30 didn't know that was high when i first started playing on pc so i mostly just play main characters that don't require too much aim like ash, Evie and vora although i can play cassie and saati alright but when i play most matches get paired with ppl few hundred lvls above me cause my account level 200 so end up just using my mains
bro evie is a character that requires god tier aim
@@keoniscrimmager200 wouldn't say u need aim as much as u do for ppl like cassie and other hitscans its more her abilities u have to master
@@soldierzoom see thing is it doesnt matter how good your aim is if your usin a projectile like evie it means nothing because if you have your cursor on someone and shoot its not gonna hit them like other characters
@@soldierzoom when using a projectile champion you have to predict there movements which is why its harder then just tracking which is why I find people like evie and drogoz significantly harder then any character with a gun
@@keoniscrimmager200 i'm the opposite
Kasumi being very hard is crazy she ez asf
Once the balance changes hit I definitely think she’s gonna be hard to play. If her main weapon is gonna be aim/trigger bot, it likely won’t do nearly as much damage in future patches and she will have to rely on her traps and team to get opportunities
I may not be "good" at him per se, but Damba sure feels a lot more easy to me than Lillith 😄
Seris: Just use "m2" to heal, "F" to escape from anything, "Q" to heal yourself and incapacitate the opponent and "E" to help your team
Do this and you will be a proplayer Seris
seris is ridiculous
I think vivian gets a lot of underserved hate, i mean she is boring to play but the sensor can do plenty of stuff and decent vivian players can have a huge impact with sensor placement.
But all of vivians plus sides drown in the unfortunate fact that you can just take some scotch tape and fix m1 down and press w and you'd be just fine..
But zhin is mainly good at living....thats the point it doesn't make him necessarily easy
(Also his alt is used for movement because in a lot of cases you have to
Good vid tho
Kasumi and Maeve main over here
As me i had picked skye as the best champ she got a lot of ability to escape but also she is not that easy it's ofcourse depends of the type of enemies u playing w i have seen works struggling to be a good players buy Skye it's worth my time i enjoyed
This list is all over the place. Like for starters you need to explain what makes them hard to you. Need to be reasonable. Andro is not very hard compared say evie or Maeve.
i main dredge: and tbh i dont see him in easy because if you just spam left click your doing something wrong he needs good positioning and 2 of his talents dont allow you to 1v1 a flank like he is easy to pick up but he is hard to master not just because his left click damages himself if it hits him(not like betty) but even tho he has a teleport its his only movement ability so i would put him hard/very hard if you consider that his 1st talent make you useless untill you have reload speed 60% and his last talent need an extremly good map knowledge and aim and eve if you go his must used talent where he trows his spear that thing has a hitbox that is not the biggest and has a range limit so he cant do anything against sniper like strix/kinessa/lian etc (thats my opinion i love to debate and take it lighty :D)
as a kasumi main. she deserves another tier below easy
Ayo i have the exact same skin on terminus as the one you used for gameplay or whatever
also Maeve: Very hard.
who doesn't use rogues justice unless they don't got it they don't know what they're doing
You said Kasumi is very hard because she has traps, but 2 seconds before you said Viv is easy but she has traps with Booby Trap..! Try setting 2 traps in 1 position, lure enemy to chase you, then boom, instant 1200 dmg! Dredge also can set a trap.
I lold at kasumi placement
What's with the music when you get to Rei? Can't hear a word you're saying it's so loud
Yooo 2 long Kirb videos in a row, what's going on?
I didn't even realized 😂
Wait, you weren't joking with the Kasumi placement? I thought for sure it was a joke, Kasumi is the easiest dps to play period, you only press left click and look near an enemy and the champion plays itself.
Also, Androxus on the same level as Evie or Vatu just doesn't seem right. Androxus is a hitscan, just with that it is leagues easier than them, not to count that with Cursed Revolver you get a reveal, damage over time and one of the highest dps in the game so I fial to see him as hard.
The rest of them are about right, I slightly disagree with some but mainly on these I pointed out (and maybe you underestimated combat medic Pip, he's the hardest support period, harder than Damba even though Damba is one of my favorite champs).
Still, interesting video.
dude just put androxus in very hard lmaoooooooooooooooooo
You’re a controller player
Atlas. Let's stun a person at low hp so my team can't kill them. Or let's rewind a low hp person to God knows where cause he didn't get resilience and got sent to spawn
Androxus and Bomb King very hard but they are still getting nerfed. Sad face.
Still Andro best character in the game even with all the nerfs
Music is a little too soft at the end
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@@KirbZM you just made my day even more than u did before
seven although a lil cheap is hella fun
6:09 me whenever i see a cute girl
"Willow.."
okay stop trashing so much on Kasumi the only complex part about her is the passive I know that you need to learn map awareness to fully unlock the potential of her q and like where enemies are gonna flank but if you are really not into that just use her spirit lure talent also I feel like her movement ability is more for scouting rather than being a movement ability like you can peek where the sniper is shooting at without dying also her ult isn't that bad when you cast it on an enemy they immediately get 5 stacks and everyone that gets hit by the projectiles also get 5 stacks and when an enemy has 5 stacks they do less damage you can disarm you do more damage and the person who got hit with her ult also takes damage overtime also the person who got hit by the projectiles get damaged over time so you can easily execute them with ur right click so she's not that bad also if your really struggling with her escape just get 1 or 2 healing cards she is the perfect 1v1 champ
Viktor Vivian Tiberius. Easy mode champions