How Will US React If Russia Attacks Finland
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- 🚀 Amidst the crumbling landmarks of Helsinki, an underground sanctuary thrives. Below the war-torn city, over a million Finns shelter in expansive bunkers-complete with schools, hospitals, and sports facilities. Above, Finnish and American F-35s patrol the skies. Discover Finland’s formidable wartime preparations, from historical resilience against Soviet forces to modern strategies, including NATO integration and state-of-the-art military tech. Are these enough to deter a future Russian advance? #Finland #NATO #MilitaryStrategy #F35 #Helsinki #UndergroundBunkers #WarPreparation #DefenseTech #RussianBorder #ColdWarContinues #finland #sweden #norway #scandinavia #arctic #russia #putin #vladimirputin #nukes #submarine #usa #america #moskov #saintpetersburg #Leningrad #ice #snow
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Putin deserves an award. NATO has never had a better, more effective salesman.
Rather NATO than a possibly EU force. If getting corrupt, it could force, bribe and undermine nations not wanting to be assimilated into EU and/ or ruthlessly put a stop to any rebellion to get out of EU in alredy EU nations! Rather split up EU etc by having cultural/ historical tied nations unified ( though not lose their national flag, sovereignitt ) Con-federational Unions. Nordic Union, Baltic Union, West/ Center/ South/ East Unions. Heck if ever a new Jugoslavia!
Probably all in same club. and you aint in it.
And NATO also never has been more weaker and fractured than it is now. WE, The baltics, NOW KNOW WE CAN NOT RELY ON NATO FOR THEIR HELP. Russia succeeded in what he wanted, splitting NATO in two right between the two lines between the eastern europe and the western europe.
@@NightridingDoomGood joke.
Tovaritch.
Are you in Moscow or St Petersburg ?
@@himlingpatrice Im in Poland. Im from Poland. We dont have army. Its all lie about Poland being military power. Are you gonna fight for Ukraine? I know I wont. And all young Ukrainians in Poland neither wont go.
Would'nt it be nice if Russia acted like a normal country
Yes, but it seems not to be in them.
Based on human history they kinda are
Yes
@@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4All I see in ruzzia is the very worst and far from typical. It couldn't be much further removed from 21st century normal.
Russian Empire - Soviet Union - Russian Federation (Soviet Union) Light 😂
Clearly America wants to isolate again 🤣
Huge errors in this one. St Petersburgh is closer to Finland than showed. Finland's navy is not that small. Finland's artillely is one of the largest and best in Europe. Poland is in NATO. ETC. ETC...
This whole channel is spotty at best with it's content
@@FlatBeeF Yeah I've noticed. Lots of things, but one that really jumped out at me was how attacking russian troops in Lapland would be sitting ducks for bombing runs. As if they don't have any air force and air defense of their own :D This channel feels like it's more sensationalist than anything.
Relatively speaking, the Finnish navy IS small - it has nothing that qualifies as a capital ship, being designed for coastal defence. These are facts, and no amount of national pride can change facts.
@@brianhammer5107 "National Pride"??? They are building now four Pohjanmaa-class corvettes They will be 117 metres - almost Frigates...
@@rudolfox4142 That's great. But even then, Finland's naval fleet - relative to many other countries - will be small. Russia's navy dwarfs it.
12:08 Poland is a NATO member since 1999!
And the Baltics, all three since 2004, was this scripted by AI or something 🙄
and they said "Russia has been developing Hypersonic missiles capable of avoiding american defenses." ha ha! I think Patriot would like to argue that seeing as they've shot down double didgets of their "Hypersonics"
@@multizooter97 This is an AI channel.
@@PedanticNo1 AI text to speech is getting scary
@@PedanticNo1 it is AI it was good but its LLM data is out of date, but hey if someone is making money from it dont hate the player hate the game 😁
My mother 93yrs old, wishes "No more war", so do I.
Greetings from Finland.
any sane person wants peace - but that has never been the case, and won't be until the Lord returns with His justice
Your mother seen a lot of change
Russia: The winter is our ally!
Finland: Lol. Hold our beers...
Bears*
@@kimchi2780 bears carrying beer kegs. and artillery.
For Russian missiles, there is no difference - it's summer or it's winter
@@arlekino-vg4tf hard to launch missiles when the US blows up all your launch sites. Russia is a moderate regional power dressing up as a global power. They're a joke. The US is stronger than the entirety of Europe including Russia.
Hold my Kosken
12:04 - Since when do the Baltic states and Poland fall outside of NATO Membership? 🤔🤨
These aren’t exactly cartographers running this channel.
Any time a Russian talks.
Thought the same
Yea.. sitting here listening to this crap thinking... damn.m hot click baited again
I imainge it's supposed to be Balkan countries. Even though even though most of those are NATO members. As for Poland, I have no answer.
As an American -finn I can say we would come to the homeland to fight we still have sisu
You would have the U.S behind you brother
@@QuietFury9 I am a u.s army veteran 6 years 88-94 but I'm also 100% finnish so I'm looking at it from both aspects that's why we use joint operations 🤝
@@JonKorpi-o9w thank you for my service my guy! Mad respect to you and any other service member! Hopefully it never comes to us having to fight side bu side but the us will be with you.
✌️👍
As a American, l agree that our military will not let any Nato member stand alone
Sheesh. As if Sweden and Norway would just stand around and watch the Russians invaded.
I hope small Denmark will help with what they can in both war and civil goods and manpower. Nordics have to stand strong together.
They did in 1939
Precedence
@@naughton101 yeah because they are the exact same as 80 + years ago.
@@Psych1_- Well obviously not anymore since we're all part of NATO
A few years ago I worked with a guy from Finland. He was telling me about how no one truly understands how much Finns HATE russia and when russia attacks (not if) Finland will retaliate with a "violent vengance" (his exact words) russia could never imagine.
"never attack Russia in the winter"
-Finns laughing out loud
God bless Finland and the Finnish people.
... and the reinclusion of the original Finnish territories of Kola Peninsula and Karelia into Finland
Gesundheit, Finland.
@@hilgardlinks3160 I hope some day Finland gets back the city of Viipuri and the Karelian lands the Soviets stole from them in the 1940s.
@@hilgardlinks3160 That would be amazing.
@@quilmesdave Divine justice
As a member of the Finnish Marines, reserves;
Strictly speaking, Finland doesn't NEED NATO.
Sure, being part of NATO helps, but even without it, we could hold the line. Much is made of that 1340 km of border with Russia, much less said about the fact that only about 100 - 300km of that border is easy ground for tanks, APCs etc., the prefered arms of Russia. The rest are forest and lakes, good luck getting through those alive... Those 100-300km of easily traversible ground is, in turn easily saturated and mauled by the largest artillery capacity in Europe, which happens to be located in Finland.
This aspect is always missing in these videos. Csnt understand when war channels dont even bring it up. Difference in warfare when fighting in country littered with lakes and dense forests is something else than fighting in ukraine full of flat fields. Suddenly drones and tanks dont have so much uses. Enemy is much harder to spot and cover is everywhere.
russia having hard time in terrain suitable for their army proves that they would be utterly destroyed in nordic woods.
As a fin I can confrim we are unbeatable
Glad that you join Nato, partner.
Perkele sataana!
It's that sisu!
That's the Spirit!
Almost every man over the age of 20 has been in the army and these people have also a lot of own weapons, the attacker could not rest anywhere on Finnish soil
The only thing swedes do not love about our beloved relative Finland, is when they beat us in hockey.❤
12:05 Poland is a member of Nato
Yes. Poland joined Nato in March 1999.
It’s very important to note the difference in fighting Russia like the conflict in Ukraine, with a powerful Air Force, Finland has advanced F-18’s with F-35’s on the way, war is unpredictable, and it’s impossible to say how much this will make a difference, but if Ukraine is holding on while being severely outnumbered with basically no air support, common sense wouid tell us these modern aircraft wouid make a significant impact
Yup their army is also just all around better equiped than Ukraine with Sweden also being able to give a lot more 😅
Finland's terrain and climate would be the Russians biggest enemy.
@@tommygun5038well, that, or Ruzzia's own incompetence
В меньшинстве? В начале войны именно русские в меньшинстве захватили большую часть Украины. Удержать не смогли. Сейчас на фронте давно паритет. Забавно слышать сказки про украинское меньшинство
if we are careful and everyone does their job then we should have decent chances.
It's not how will the US react it's how will NATO react.
They will do whatever the US says. The US is the leader of NATO. The US is a military juggernaut!
@@maces1405unless we sh*t the bed in November and a certain kind of steaming garbage gains power & subsequently one-pump fu¢ks 80 years of hard-won progress, in which case the rest of NATO will do what it needs to do and take the regns.
NATO is the name given to European vassals of the American Empire.
America is NATO is America
@@maces1405European NATO countries are, without the US, stronger than ruSSian Reich
@@maces1405 Tell that to Poland.
6:10 Your map is wrong, Sweden is a Nato member as of 7th of March.
Damn, didnt know we added Mars to the calender. Must be a very special planet.
@@derpboi101 English is not my first language...
@derpboi101 and I think it Autocorrected itself .
@@derpboi101"A calender is a series of hard pressure rollers used to finish or smooth a sheet of material such as paper, textiles, rubber, or plastics." ;)
Russian bots already here.
You're wrong, we're hanging out with your mom
@@viper7294 Feel sorry for you.
@@viper7294twoją mamę już dawno spotkaliśmy .
It's hard to earn Rubles in russia these days, trolling or going to the front.
@viper7294 so you admit you are in hell.
If Putin open up a new war front in Finland, this will confirm that Putin is really a crazy person.
He has already proven in many times before.
Outin knows his nation is not ready for war with NATO yet. Thats why all the proipaganda and nuclear threats from Putin.
А теперь другой вопрос, Если Путин не нападет на Финляндию, то кем он будет ? Мы свами обычные люди, так что я пожелаю вам, да вообще всему МИРУ, Мирного неба над головой, благополучия и самое главное Крепкого здоровья.
He isn't and he won't. It is the NATO nitwits that push for war.
@@user-is7hl7ts7m7 that depends on one thing and one thing only: if he completely withdraws from Ukraine and Crimea. if he does not, he is still a crazy person, just not a complete nutjob
Don't worry about what the US would do. Worry about what the Finns can and will do.
Finland is peace loving country. We don't attack....
Poland is also part of nato no? 12:11 is wrong
Since 1999 they have been a member
If Russia went into Finland pre Nato. Norway, Denmark, Sweden would be there, and Nato would be dragged into it. Scandinavia shit on each other every day, but the little Scandinavian sandbox fight is a private sandbox fight. No one there, would let anyone attack any of the Scandinavian nations.
Actually it would not, Article 5 is only pulled if one of the membering states is attacked, not if they attack someone. Baltic states even though in nato sending help to a non nato country would not activate article 5. However Finland now has joined NATO, so A5 will be automatically activated if Russia is to attack Finland.
Finland is not Scandinavian.
@@SolidoNaso. Well he obviously ment nordic.
@@spoonzor1 then say nordic
@@SolidoNaso.aslong as ppl understood what he meant who cares?
Finland is awesome. ❤
My grandfather lost all but three of his graduating class fighting the winter wars, he was shot three times. One of which was through both sides of his collar.
Is his shirt okay?
It seems that Your Grandfather was an Honorable, Brave and Courageous human being, You should be extremely proud of him.
He should never be forgotten.
Semper Fi!.
This is good but the country that deserves all the support it can get its Ukraine. It’s never gonna need to get to other European nations if we just help Ukraine more
It looks like Finland doesn’t need NATO, NATO needs Finland!
It isn't a question of "who need who" !
@@wildhogboerboels4128 I agree, everyone needs friends, together we are strong, and as a Finn I can say that we always stand by our friends, when we are friends, we are until death, and if possible even after that.
≈12:05 All three Baltic countries and Poland are members of NATO. They do not “fall outside of NATO membership.”
Russia needs to worry how Finland reacts yet again, let alone anyone else!!😂
I’m an American 🇺🇸 of Polish🇮🇩 descent and completely back Finland 🇫🇮
Putin is not going to attack any Nato nation he knows he would get thar butt whipped good.Russia cannot match the fire power of Nato.
@@Brandon-k5e5p who isn’t going to back Finland?! Even my kids would be on the war path! After all Santa is from Finland 🤘🇬🇧
🇮🇩This Is Indonesia 🇵🇱This Is Poland
Vault tech has entered the chat
Holvi tekniikka😂
Patrolling the EU almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
and exits the chat, because the finnish are already prepared 😂
no need, no sales.
last time they tried we killed over 250k... just in first 3 months...
In the winterwar died 126k-167k soviets and that numbers are to very controversial because they come from khrushchev who hated stalin and according to many historyans he Lied and 53k-68k soviets died in that war, just as comparison,according to him did the soviets lost more equipment against the fins than in the battle of stalingrad and moscow combined
You say this as if the number of victims matters, especially if the Russians are fighting against you, in the Second World War the Russians gave 20 million lives for victory, no matter how many Soviets you killed, in the end you lost and lost the theories that are still Russian
@@schokobar4133 No Khrushchev said 1 million, which was a very obvious political lie, done during the De-Stalinization period. 126k-167k dead (not casualties) is the range of estimates from four Russian historians (if you check the references in the Wikipedia article on the Winter War).
@@chefren77 molotov claimed after the war 45k soviet soldiers died in the winterwar, after stalins death nikita khrushchev sayd 1m soviets fell in the the whole war against the fins, grigoriy Krivosheyev claimed than the numbers we know today but u even can read in hes bio he made an politican speculation and many historyans dont like to take him as an source because he made many big mistakes like that he claimed 48k fins died to, Baryshikov,mikahil semiryaga and ohto manninem claim all 53k-68k soviets died in the war, it was to the coldwar and the west obviously will rather belive the higher numbers to show the Red army as weak
Финны думают что выиграли зимнюю войну, но почему то по ее окончании выполнили все условия Сталина и даже больше
Thank you Mr for Putin for making NATO great Again. Nothing encourages other European nations to Join NATO more than watching neighbors get invaded with tanks , troops and Military Vehicles.
Putin has been the BEST salesman for nato membership
Finland has a lot more than four ship in navy. Finland has ordered four new destroyer.
12:04 Since when have Poland and the Baltic countries not fallen under NATO protection? They are NATO members still.
Baltics and Poland are NATO members- joined well before Finland..
Sweden is not shown on the map as a NATO member, this video is crappy work.
Ofcourse they join as fast as possible.
Makes video about Nato... and don't even know that the Baltics and Poland are NATO countries, along with not showing Sweden as a NATO member on the map. This is low quality content.
they are low quality countries, like the rest of NATO!!!
It's a wonder that there was no mention of the new air defense system bought by Finland, the Israeli David's Sling, which will be put into use at the end of the 2020s.
Btw st Petersburg is way off there😂 18:32
Its only bit over 100km from the border
In the 1990 when USSR broke up and Russia took its first steps and living standards was very bad in ST. PETERSBURG habitant in ST. P joke about they declaler war against Finland and surrender next day so they became part of Finland with all the benefit for Finns. Sorry for not perfect english.
Just imagine Putin invading Alaska!
Alaska Is Russia 🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺💪
I doubt if Russia has enough manpower left to man an ice cream stand in Vladivostock😂
Orc land is a waste of space...@@alexanderaleksandar2030
Putin knows better than to try to take Alaska
@@alexanderaleksandar2030 it for the last 100 year it wasnt
Putin should be in a fucking museum
Do one on 🇨🇦Canada🇨🇦! We love the fins! ❤️
Russia, China, South Korea, etc, all would benefit from taking history lessons. Now China & Russia try to gain influence in Africa, this will not end well.
What so you expect for a country. That did cenocide when stole their lands from Mongolians?
The US has done a lot of lobbying to have Finland as an close ally. I didn't know that until recently but it explains a lot. For example, the choice of fighter jets.
I feel like i'm obligated to say this...
Perkele se on Häyhä eikä mikään Haiha!
I can assure you -40C is not "normal weather" in Finland
We can manage it :) I have at younger age, -37 at age of 6yo. It was fun, i had facial hair at age of 6 :D
lower than -35c is every winter thing in east and north. Not inside 3rd ring road thou.
The coldest weather in winter war was huge luck. Before and after mild winter temps just the biggest raid and it was very cold at then. It's kinda a myth that it was cold all the time, it wasn't.
This depends on the area of Finland we are talking about, within lapland, yes, EASILY can reach that. At southern Finland, there is possibility of -30 C and it is not uncommon but, it isn't common either. Finnish people, always have one thought about the weather, erratic. For foreign nations, Finland is the most ideal spring board for an attack into Russia. Finland is the shield, and Poland is the sword, Poles and the Finns can buy more than enough time for rest of Europe to get their armed forces mobile.
During peace time, Alaska, Canada, Finland, Norway and Sweden can provide the most ideal places to test any military equipment for horrific winters, USA and Sweden already have pretty extensive cooperation of research and development. Difficult to not crack a smirk upon imagining what kind of madness United States Air Force and Swedish Air Force, will cook up together.
I heard about a USA and Sweden co-developing a new IFV with the CV90 as the basis, which has me quite interested too.
As a northern Canadian, -40c is VERY normal
Weather wars , hunger games , earthquakes , strange fires ,, railroad and bridge derailments and demolitions . Just another day in an Orwellian dystopic thiefdom , a place worth fighting for >
18:46 Bruh that's not where St. Petersburg is located lol
Lol almost missed that. Helsinki isn't really there that east either but at least it's close
The US would not need to do anything. Finland has fended off Russia for 80+ years without NATO support! Finland is the best example of why firearms in well trained civilians hands and investing internally into your own infrastructure is yhe best deterrence!
Our civilians actually only have hunting guns, and rifles or pistols are very rare. Some military-affiliated clubs do have them, but they are regulated very strictly.
But I agree with you, that millions of trained soldiers are quite the deterrant, with the added extra of shooting-capable civilians.
you forget the fact we accept random russian people to reside and buy our properties next to mimitary bases and depots here @@lukanissila3914
P.s the f-35 is certified to carry nukes 😊😊😊😊
so are the Ohio class subs that I'd be my life savings on at least one of being in striking range of Moscow at all times. Those things are way more terrifying. They launch missiles that are multi head nukes where each warhead can hit different targets. So one launch is really several. Add to that the fact that they are nuclear powered so they can chill there for ages and also the fact that they are undetectable.
@@ryantannar5301 yes but Finland doesn't have Ohio class subs but they do have f-35 s that are 10min from St Petersburg and half hour from Moscow plus they invisible
@@JonKorpi-o9w yeah but id bet money the US has been keeping some around the area since before this whole ukraine thing
@@ryantannar5301 guaranteed there's a sub parked in the Arctic Mediterranean and off the coast in Pacific that can hit China Russia and North Korea probably one in Atlantic
@@JonKorpi-o9w for sure. The US likes to plan ahead for even the most fringe situations so 100% we have those sneaky little subs all over the place
Tbh I doubt the Finnish military would be so helpless in an invasion from Russia until the US steps in. Most likely the people will pick up a rifle rather than go to church
Russia invade a NATO country? HA! bring it!
Playing Russian roulette would be a better decision
If NATO entered the Russia/Ukraine War The Russians would not use conventional warfare. They have already warned it would be nuclear war.
Artikla 5.
Not only the US react,but the whole NATO wil react
Let’s be real, NATO is mostly about the US bailing out Europe
oh like the western countries helped Ukraine? Yhea, give me a break, dumdum. Just look at the donations GDP wise. Also, look at the types od donations, and outside of few exceptions (France/Uk finally woke up last year), all the military donation has been from ex-soviet countries. Eastern Europe. Oh, and Baltics + Poland/Finland are one of the highest donators and the loudest advocates for Ukraine
Ukraine is (sadly) not a part of NATO. If they were the situation would be completely different. Most likely the war wouldn't have begun at all.
If Russia invaded Finland or any other NATO member and the others did not come and help it would mark the end of the alliance and Putin would be free to do as he wanted.
That's simply not an option because the whole point and reason for the existence of NATO is based around article 5 and Putin knows it.
@@jyrkipaavola. khm.... Kosovo
As a Finnish reserve soldier, I approve of this video (there really are about 900,000 of us). Apart from a few small mistakes (number of ships, st Petersburg is little bit in wrong place, etc.), the video gives a pretty good overview of the matter.
Finland has a HIGHLY trained military , not to mention very highly motivated. Ad it now stands Russia will not be in any military condition to attack Finland/NATO for at least a decade, if then.
Thanks to Ukrainians it hasn't been this silent in the northern borders for decades. Northern russian military bases are almost empty it can be seen in satellite images. The tanks and vehicles have been sent to Ukraine and most of them have already been destroyed. Most of units will never come back.
@@londop.a.3048 Come on, dont repeat nonsense.
@@attilamarics3374 Which part in my comment is nonsense ? Russia has lost almost 90% of the 2022/02 troops, there are already new guys at the front. satellite images show how the northern bases are empty.
@@londop.a.3048 They dont, dont make up stuff. Every part of your comment is bull. You are humiliating yourself with repeatign this nonsense.
😂 What is this? All neighbors are NATO members. Don’t take this serious.
to all the Russian fake accounts posting here don't bother. You will never influence Finnish public opinion.. Finns are easy to smart. Finland is no push over. Not for Russia or America. Russia may have ruled the Warsaw Pact but NATO is not run by America. If it was, Sweden's entry would not have been held up by Turkiye or Hungary
...no need for Finland to have big navy fleet as shallow waters all around but world class mines are waiting for poor attacks...
War is not like in computer games.
Before being punched, everyone thinks their own fist is a sledgehammer.
18:29 In the graphics, St Petersburg is depicted south of Lake Ladoga. The actual location is on the Gulf of Finland, 150 km / 90 miles to the West.
Border may be huge, but Russia only has 8 major roads leading to Finland and every one of those rely on the R21 going from St. Petersburg to Murmansk, all of that within the reach of Finnish artillery. Other options are trying to cross dense forest and muddy fields. Finland has thousands of forest roads that can be used for ambushes, hit and run artillery, suplly chains etc.
A lot of the information here is just nonsense. By and for people who know nothing
The US wouldn't have to do much. Finland could probably beat Russia by itself. The nuclear deterrent factor would be useful. However the rest of NATO would join in anyway, both because of obligation and to minimize Finnish loses. We Canadians are happy to have Finland as an ally.
Aimo Koivunen was a badass
there was a lot of badass at the time time :D
Love your channel and this video is great...but check your map, you don't have where St. Petersburg is located.
Poland is in NATO
Poland is on the road to become a "Regional Military Powerhouse" and one of the most powerful members of NATO.
Semper Fi!.
@@gruntusmc8922This is true.
I wish Russia could’ve joined NATO. he asked in the early 90s Bill Clinton said potentially. Clinton then asked his advisors and they said absolutely not so he went to Putin and said he cannot join.
It would be nice if everybody could cooperate and be a part of an organization that we could potentially avoid a nuclear war and save many lives.
Right so that Russia would have free hands to invade any NATO country.. Glad you are just armchair general from lala land
Finland could kick russias ass without US help.
Dont be Kakiiiiiiiiiiìiiiiiiii
Nice vido! but at 6:15 you forgot that the Sweden is in NATO too ;)
Russia can’t win finland.😂
While America may be willing to defend European countries in a normal conventional war. I don't believe they would actually sacrifice themselves, to defend a Nuclear attack on Europe. They aren't that stupid.
vladolf putler is crazy enough to try
Some of the comments below make me sick. Britain, a tiny island, did not stand by and watch Poland die alone. It's all very well-being brave behind your moms skirts and deny helping. Wait until the bombs fall. We know how well Poland can fight, my father knew several Polish pilots, some of them even lived.
Incorrect map on St Petersburg
Helsinki is too east too. But this video is shit with other massive mistakes as well like Poland and Baltics supposedly not being in NATO even tho they can be seen on the NATO map on this same video
14:57 You're completely ignoring that Finland is part of the european union, which has a mutual defense clause that is worded far stronger than NATOs article 5. There would most certainly be boots on the ground from a lot of other EU members
What?! NO! The F-35 is not a good dog fighter. IIRC, 2 out of 3 versions don't even include the gun. It's a long-range first-look, first-kill sniper.
As far as US participation goes, the real question is: Who is the president at the time of the attack?
Doesn't matter. NATO vs Russia is World War 3. And the US is not showing up for that one.
We're $35 trillion in debt. Half of the US population doesn't know what bathroom they're supposed to use and those same people hate this country so fervently, they will actively sabotage it.
Conversely, the other half of the population are the ones actually keeping this broken-down wagon half rolling down the road. Who's gonna run the economy and pay the taxes if they're all being shipped off to war? And those people hate their government so purely, they're as likely to fight Washington as Moscow or Beijing.
I do not say what Europe should or should not do with regard to Russia. Just know that the United States is not coming to bail everyone out this time.
Plan accordingly
People always seems to forget how much aid Finland got from the Nordics in the winter war, especially Sweden despite their official "neutral" stance. Sweden supplied twice that of Finland's national defense budget in financial aid and a massive amount of weapons. The Swedish government and the Swedes wanted to intervene with forces but the king didn't want to violate what at the time was a 100 year old treaty of neutrality and manage to persuade the government to refrain from doing so. But a Nordic Corp of around 10 000 voluntaries (almost all Swedish) did in fact fight the Soviet Union in the war and took out around 5000-8000 Soviets (300 according to Finnish sources) while taking 30 losses.
The loses did u made up
Finland received far too little aid from the Nordic countries in the Winter War. Norway and Denmark tried hard to be neutral and not be involved in war. The eagerness to help Finland in case of a crisis is much better in the Nordic countries now.
It was mostly Finns living in Sweden that voulontered.
You are kindof creative with the numbers, but with all that material aid most parts on the front russia had 1-20 advantage on tanks, artillery and planes and 1-6 advantage on manpower
People seem to forget that official finnish historiography is basically a bunch of fairy tales of them not provoking soviets in any way, not being ally of Hitler, not having concentration camps, not commiting war crimes, not helping with encircling Leningrad and starving it's people to death, not having ideas of having some kind of "great Finland". They won against everyone and everything, yet for some reason their army unconditionally surrendered in both winter and continuation wars and their country was allowed to exist simply because Stalin thought it would be cool to have a neutral buffer state nearby after the war ends. But why am i even saying that? That myth is imprinted within the brain, even in Russia there are tons of people who will tell you that Mannerheim wasnt that bad.
Honestly it is not unlike the current ukrainian affair - they are winning in western media, winning this, winning that, Russia is collapsing, conscripts fighting with shovels and stealing toilets.. but when there will not be enough space to dig new cemeteries to bury ukrainians they will eventually surrender and sign up whatever needs to be signed. But the myth will continue to live, with Simo Ha.. i mean Ghost of Kyev and all that goes along with it. In the end it wasnt really that bad for Finland as a state - they flourished by being neutral.
My 89-year-old grandmother still feels worried about war sometimes. I understand her fear since she had to leave her home in Karelia as a child when the Russians attacked, that kind of trauma is still strong in the older generation here. She was convinced we would be going to war again soon when Russia invaded Ukraine and that we would be the next target...
Why does it seem like the Finland people are done already and they haven't even started yet?
Because they are Finnish( sounds like finish).
Why does it seem that Russian equipments are not built with quality?
Because they are always Russian (sounds like rushing).
Russia attacks Finland, our allies in Poland: "Ok, let´s do this! Leeerooooy Jeeen kins!!!"
17:24 Actually that is what Russia has publicly said during the years that one front would be in the high north. So it is actually quite likely.
You don't think the Finnish have not friends without you? Nobody can attack us in Scandinavia, not even US
what is bro yapping about
@@emil3458bot botting.
How many nukes does Scandinavia have?
Remember that one time in the 40's where Finland got their country invaded. Your friends are just like you; dependent on allies to show a miniscule hint of backbone.
@@The_Hagseed however many NATO has.
Finland is Brilliantly Designed, shows how they think
Shamefully, the USA declared war on Finland during WWII at Stalin's request.
The continuation war was a tricky one.
"The U.S. government resisted Soviet pressures to declare war on Finland, but on June 30, 1944, it agreed to sever diplomatic relations with the Finnish government."
All it took was a 5 second google search, you should be ashamed of yourself.
shamefully? They had allied with Germany. I totally understand that Finland did that as a way to survive and not out of support for Nazis, but if the US is at war with Germany and Finland allied to Germany, duh we're gonna declare war. Don't be dumb. We sided with an ally because that's logical. The US didn't really DO much of anything in Finland anyways. Grow up.
@@ryantannar5301Many Americans volunteered to fight for Finland though, including Christopher Lee. Finland wasn’t seen as an ally to Germany. Everyone understood. Finland were on their own, and real life you get desperate for any aid when Russia attacks. Russia has attacked Finland at least 5 five times. We’re so aware of history repeating, Poland feels exactly the same way. I really don’t like that we accepted any help from Germany at that time. But my grandfather who fought against the Soviet invasion when he was only 17, he always spoke against both Hitler and Stalin. Veterans rarely talk about the German aid, we often completely forget about it. Nazis didn’t fight along side us, just gave us supplies like Poland helping Ukraine right now. We just had a common enemy, but I wonder if a part of the continuation war was revenge because Stalin feared that Germany would come into Soviet Union through Finland but we were neutral and we would never allow that and do any business with Germany. Stalin made a promise to leave Finland alone if we stayed neutral and so we did but he broke that promise, which is why we don’t trust Russia anymore with those promises. Honestly it hurts that Finland accepted any help from Germany then, and during the continuation war we let the Germans attack Soviet Union from Finland as we tried to take back land stolen by Stalin. I wonder if it was kind of revenge “now that you invaded us, fine let the Nazis attack we don’t care anymore after what you did”… but still I hate it, my gf is from Poland. And Poland as you know what invaded by Germany and Soviet Union… but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that we were allies with Germany, and we didn’t help them fight or do anything. We had a common enemy we were alone and desperate and I think that’s all it was, you accepted any aid when a scary war against such a massive country is suddenly a reality. Logic goes out the window. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve never thought that we were allies with Germany. Just accepted artillery and gear to fight Stalin from them. But there wasn’t any kind of nazi ideology going on in Finland or anything like that. And there were volunteers from the UK and US fighting on Finland’s side. Although we didn’t let Christopher Lee fight in the front lines, we didn’t want him to die. But he was there as a soldier helping in other ways. But personally obviously I wish we had nothing to do with Germany back then. I think also people had no idea about the concentration camps and stuff yet. People didn’t yet understand the full extent of Hitler’s evil. But still it’s a very weird thing indeed. For most of my life i didn’t actually even know that we accepted aid from the Germans. I only learnt about it maybe 6 years ago because people don’t talk about it much. I guess people also don’t want to because we’re ashamed of it.
That was more on how Finland would defend themselves not on how America would react.
Need to free europe from is l am
If Finland has zero strategic value why are you wasting oxygen on that idiotic scenario?
Mmm an orc bot.
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USA will watch the Finland fail while congress will discuss if it worth it for 6 to 9 month 😂
Well it's good that Finland can stand alone for about 1 year. So congress isn't the problem.
@@MRtapio5 believe in that. Won’t help with missing ammo though
@@mr_DIYsays russia with an ammo crisis and a weaponry crisis across the frontline in Ukraine.. i mean dude, try to at least research, makes you look less uneducated than you really are
@@AkumaAstro Logic and Russian brainrot don't really go hand in hand. :D
11:30 i am finnish and my cousin is one of the only people to be taught how to fire the N-LAW
The first thing the US would do is introduce a UN resolution for gender neutral bathrooms on the battlefield so that her military feels comfortable out there.
Found the Russian bot,
Bro the first thing the US would do is lay down OVERWHELMING fire. If RAF can’t break through Ukr who have no munitions, manpower or air defence, how are they going to get through Finland? Get a grip 🤡
@@UsurperDogheart For your next trick, you should find the lie.
Ok bot whatever you say, when is your lunch break Vatnik
@@UsurperDogheart Oh... so close. Keep practicing... lol
Norway wont be able to do shit, our defences are complete trash xD
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Well researched video. The final barrier against Russia is NATO, and Finland actually streghten NATO more than vice versa.
You forgot to mention the artillery. Finland has the second strongest artillery in Europe.
If one country could demand Finland back it is Sweden. Before being an autonomous grand duchy of Russia's Empire of tsar 100 years Finland was directly a part of Sweden.
Everyone knows Sweden would not do that.
Whoever is going after the Polish needs to remember that the Polish have the same military reputation these days as both the French and the Italians do.
The counter-joke is that as bad as fighting as the Polish are seen, they're also seen as some of the best survivors on the planet.
You just can't ever truly defeat Poland. They are a nation of survivors, and that actually makes them formidable. THREE TIMES Poland has been erased from the map, and THREE TIMES it's come back. The Polish are SURVIVORS!
Not only that, but what country has seen Poland survive more than any other? RUSSIA.
You seem to forget that St. Petersburg is a symbolic city for Russia as them claiming the land it would be built on, after taking it from Sweden in the 1700's, marked the rise of the Russian Empire. This town is therefore very important for Putin, as historically, Sweden was Russia's main enemy in northern Europe. An enemy that continually beat and held them back, until the Russians managed to take and fortify the area now known as St. Petersburg. The town is a symbol of power, for the Russians, and especially Putin.
Now the orcs have a global problem
@@yyyy12344 and the orc economy is booming or tanking - both metaphors for what they seem to do naturally - all fools
@@yyyy12344 mmm an orc schill here everybody, no profile no idea just a gob on a stick...
People speak of russia as if it can be trusted to live long enough on the map.
Let's take a closer look at what we have right now compared to before:
Russians entering a war to protect ''orthodox'' population in Serbia, supressing a revolt in 1905. Failure to secure the frontline, leading to complete collapse of the armed forces that proved to be underdeveloped and using tactics completely useless against incoming German forces (similiar to what we have in Ukraine, right?). Bolshevik revolution, Ukrainian, Polish, Georgian, Kazakh, Finnish, Baltic and etc. etc. etc breakaway states. Lingering civil war. Collapse of Russian Empire.
*COLLAPSE OF RUSSIA IN 1917*
Formation of Soviet Union, numerous horrific famines, revolts and race for power grinding the population into poverty. Relative ''progression'' throughout 1922-1936 (again, through countless deaths, purges and famines). Annexation of western bit of Poland to protect ''polish workers'' from opression. Purges, Katyn massacre. Second World War. Catastrophic casualities, useless tactics, underdeveloped and underequipped armed force. Horrific atrocities on own population (purges, you know the drill). Victory (10 million dead, both soldiers and civilians) followed by a catastrophic economic and industrial decline. Famine of 1946. Countless rebellions in Chechnya, Baltics, Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Central Asia and even Siberia purged. Numerous other events (including explosion on CNP) from 1948 to 1979. Afghan war. Lingering conflict with a lot of casualities to establish and protect ''workers government of Afghanistan''. Economic decline, fracture within' the party, rapid changes in the government, leading to 'Perestroika' that failed.
*COLLAPSE OF RUSSIA IN 1991*
Now here we are, Russia following it's same route to downfall throughout a lingering war, already facing a mutiny (even if it was short-lived) and temporar economic decline of 2022-2023. Growing tension within' Russia (Tatarstan, Dagestan and recent events in Moskow that increased hatred towards Tajiiks and other representatives of countries of Central Asia). Let's see when it comes to next russian collapse, eh?
*What I'm saying here is - russia is doomed to be a DYING empire. Forever and always.*
Well. Russia is pretty big. And it looks like it is getting bigger every day these days.
@@borgorjonsson4120 Russia was always getting bigger during wars (Galicia in WW1, West Ukraine and Belarus, Baltics, Finnish Svir during period from 1936 to 1941). Didn't stop them from collapse ln the end, though.
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Sometimes Russia wins ,sometimes they lose,but they are still there. And they are pretty big still.
This war will be one of the winning wars for Russia. Not because they got so much bigger,but because their enemies are now so much weaker ,and Europe will still get a lot weaker and will stay that way for a long time. Possibly for centuries.
NATO is not just losing the war in Ukraine ,what is a lot worse is that we are losing the geopolitical war worldwide.
Russia has a team of leaders that are outstanding.
Lavrov .Putin,Mishustin and the main banker are all outstanding people in their field.
Lavrov has travelled the world for years and he has managed to gain support of majority of nations.
Behind him is Putin ,reliable ,fair negotiater and a man of his words.
On the other hand we have the western leaders that always look more and more like idiots.
They have made one colossal mistake after the other ,and they are still doing it.
The first and biggest mistake was to push for this war.
The main reason for this war is NATO expansion.
Our leaders thought that NATO was so strong that there was no need to listen to Russias concerns. NATO would win easily with the usual combined war on the battlefield supported by economical war and international isolation.
Just week in to the war the western leaders acted and talked like they had already won the war.
Remember "the ruble is rubble" "Russias economy is in tatters" "Russian soldiers will flee when the western tanks storm towards their defensive positions."
Those people are idiots and overly arrogant. It often comes in pairs.
They acted exactly like Hitler did.
Like Hitler they thought Russian people are inferior people. "Untermenchen".
Probably our leaders have never read a book.
Everything failed in this "cunning plan".
There was no international isolation.
More than half of worlds nations and huge majority of world population either support Russia ,or they are simathetic to them. At least they understand what happened.
Most world leader understand that Russia was forced in to this war by the NATO leaders.
People can pretend as it wants that this is not our fault,but I think most people do know. But it is no use to lie to our selves.
But the truth is often too hurtful.
They also know that repeatedly this war could have been avoided if NATO wanted to avoid the war. But NATO leaders unfortunately did not want to.
Because the political isolation failed ,the economical war also failed.
Because the economical war failed ,the war on the battlefield also failed.
And here we are ,and our leaders are still digging our graves deeper.
They have no idea what to do,so they just decide to dig deeper.
NATO is far from able to keep up with Russia in weapons,both in quantity and quality.
The NATO countries have no money ,so they have to borrow or print every Euro and dollar that is used in this war.
The corruption around this war is astonishing. Even worse than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
I am 67 years old and live in a NATO country.
I lived the most prosperous time that the world has ever seen in one of the most prosperous country that has ever existed.
For the stupidity ,arrogance and limitless greed of my leaders , I will probably die poor.
I am not happy that my children have to struggle in their lives because of those idiots.
I think people has not started to realize yet what it means to lose a big war.
It is too late to say Im sorry
Maybe it is time for people to open a book.
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦 ♥️ FINLAND 🇫🇮
You showed Belarus as neutral, is it?
NO NO