Hello everyone. This video is primarily a small unofficial guide to Skanf knife throwing, mainly for people wanting to try it out but feel that the method is weird and have a hard time understanding how to perform the throw. However, since I hyper-focus only on the wave/looping aspect, it does not cover the elastic forces, pulling motions, inertia, and the theories of Skanf needed alongside this video to properly perform Skanf's no-spin throwing. I would say this video could be considered a supplemental to the previous tutorials I posted in the past.
You have a skill for explaining nuances with analogies (and for knife throwing). I’ll be thinking about flinging bed sheets and Elvis moves all the time now (not together though😂). Seriously good stuff please keep it up.
Just watching this fully and with sounds. And you have traveled a long way of understanding SKANF -road. Basically there's tons of skanf variations, because skanf determination for people is just an "wave technique". With simplest form, you just throw as you would throw a ball when you were 10years old, by making a wave motion with your body. And basically that chain motion, or wave technique is just that you use your body as it would be a bull whip. All the energy comes from the legs, so you'll basically bull whipping with your legs. The amplitude is what gives it the kick. So you can actually start the wave softly, but your waves amplitude must shorten along the way, to create that snapping whip at the end. Just like you described that sheet thing. But think of this: You can also whip a bullwhip, or a sheet, or a wrist that has knife, from the rear with some pulling forces. Basically skanf or wave technique has two areas. There's a front loop, and a back loop. The whole loop is a figure 8. Try to make most of the back loop 😉 it's the hardest part... When you understand the ideology behind it, you also understand that after the start(legs) everything will sync..
@SilenMonser about that wave technique, and it's variations: You can develope an chain motion(=wave technique) also by using your upper body muscles only. You can also develope it by using a stiff body while making it.. ...And also everything between, or mixed up, and with the most relaxed form also. Basically the stiff style is normal throwing, and from my knowledge the most loosen up style is the "real SKANF". Stiff one would be the top choice for most people, if they would be aiming for explosiveness and short movement.. But the meaning (In My Opinion) in Yuri's teachings lays in the relaxation of the body. When mastering the relaxation of throwing, you will understand what wave technique really means. After that you can really adjust you throwing, by changing the waves pulses/aplitude etc... And then, finally you can throw very relaxed, explosively and with minimum arm movement... And with any stance etc...
Thanks for the new SKANF throwing tips. My throwing and distance has improved tremendously since watching your tutorials. Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks for watching! I mostly have plans to focus more on insights and ideas/concepts - the driving forces that I understand are behind the Skanf throws. I believe with those first learned as foundations, it should help with future technique videos I want to do further down the line.
Ok I have watched a few of your videos and I have to say you explain Skanf better than most. Maybe it’s a learning style thing but your breakdowns of the body mechanics have been on point. This detail about the active arm in the snapping withdrawal phase and the correction of it is great. I’ve been having trouble with that type of throw at distance because it loses so much power but I’ve seen others use it effectively at much greater distances than across my garage so I was a bit confounded and resorted to sticking with the larger movement/follow through (also the vid you did on with the “lightning bending” analogy was great and confirmed my own mechanistic analysis of the movement so that was validating!). I’ll look through your channel some more but I’d really be interested in a video with more on the details with the overhand ice pick grip. I have been pinching the handle with the webspace of my thumb and first finger and placing my fingers obliquely along the spine for elastic force essentially drawing my hand back in a circle with a extended wrist and from the apex of the “wind up” I am chopping through the circle with my elbow leading trying to have my fingers on the spine passively force the blade forward and letting it slip from the webspace of my fingers but I seem to lose rotational (pitch) control if I release too late or more often lose control of the roll type rotation. Any thoughts?
It might take some time but I’ll make a rough draft video exploring the topics revolving around your requested content. There is another mechanism of Skanf throwing I haven’t covered yet because it was something I myself have been testing to confirm its applications. I believe it’s an aspect that will lend itself to ice-pick grip. Unfortunately, there are so many moving parts. I try to cover them individually first so it can then be pieced together without being an information-overload.
Great video! Yeah as like you mentioned "flinging", I've been saying for a while now that wave throwing feels like an "knife slinging". You have an awesome wave going on there, but try to retard it so that you build the wave for the wrists stretch (so that you get maximum strech on it, and the knife rotates backwards as much as it can). At the same time your wave should be on point where your waist area is going forward. That's where you'll find "angular velocity" 😉🙌
I think more analogy can be found, for instance, with the frisbee throw… would be interesting for me to know how balanced are your knifes… I mean, where is the gravity point? Is the heaviest part concentrated on the point? Thanks
Frisbee definitely works well for focusing on the slinging movement of the arm (and I think I’ve mentioned it before unless it’s an unreleased video) but can lead to some people generating energy from the shoulder if misunderstood. I went with the Elvis analogy to highlight the hips as the main driver of momentum and energy. Or are you referring to a different analogy I mentioned? My knives are generally center-balanced. One set is relatively front-heavy (Flying Steel’s Amulets), which I like a lot. I do have some handle-heavy knives but I don’t like them for Skanf.
@@SilenMonser no no, it wasn’t referred to something, just a consideration… yeah hips movement are basically in all martial art for instance, mainly boxing. I never thrown a knife, but it seems to me that that a loaded blade could help to keep the direction while flying, I am thinking a dart for instance, no?
Explain in detail at the moment of the click when you need to do it, at what moment and what exactly you use with your hand or forearm, how to catch this moment
I am not sure I understand what you mean by the moment of the click. Are you talking about the release of the knife? Can you give me the minute and second of the video time where this happens in the video?
Oh I was okay. The air was just very cold and smoky. It was a little bit irritating at the time. I didn't have any scarves so I just took a mask and added some folded paper napkins to act as a simple extra filter.
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Hello everyone. This video is primarily a small unofficial guide to Skanf knife throwing, mainly for people wanting to try it out but feel that the method is weird and have a hard time understanding how to perform the throw.
However, since I hyper-focus only on the wave/looping aspect, it does not cover the elastic forces, pulling motions, inertia, and the theories of Skanf needed alongside this video to properly perform Skanf's no-spin throwing.
I would say this video could be considered a supplemental to the previous tutorials I posted in the past.
I really appreciate your lessons! Your way of teaching really resonates with me! Keep em coming! Thank you so much!
You have a skill for explaining nuances with analogies (and for knife throwing). I’ll be thinking about flinging bed sheets and Elvis moves all the time now (not together though😂). Seriously good stuff please keep it up.
Just watching this fully and with sounds.
And you have traveled a long way of understanding SKANF -road.
Basically there's tons of skanf variations, because skanf determination for people is just an "wave technique".
With simplest form, you just throw as you would throw a ball when you were 10years old, by making a wave motion with your body. And basically that chain motion, or wave technique is just that you use your body as it would be a bull whip. All the energy comes from the legs, so you'll basically bull whipping with your legs.
The amplitude is what gives it the kick. So you can actually start the wave softly, but your waves amplitude must shorten along the way, to create that snapping whip at the end. Just like you described that sheet thing.
But think of this:
You can also whip a bullwhip, or a sheet, or a wrist that has knife, from the rear with some pulling forces.
Basically skanf or wave technique has two areas. There's a front loop, and a back loop. The whole loop is a figure 8.
Try to make most of the back loop 😉 it's the hardest part...
When you understand the ideology behind it, you also understand that after the start(legs) everything will sync..
@SilenMonser about that wave technique, and it's variations:
You can develope an chain motion(=wave technique) also by using your upper body muscles only.
You can also develope it by using a stiff body while making it..
...And also everything between, or mixed up, and with the most relaxed form also.
Basically the stiff style is normal throwing, and from my knowledge the most loosen up style is the "real SKANF".
Stiff one would be the top choice for most people, if they would be aiming for explosiveness and short movement.. But the meaning (In My Opinion) in Yuri's teachings lays in the relaxation of the body.
When mastering the relaxation of throwing, you will understand what wave technique really means.
After that you can really adjust you throwing, by changing the waves pulses/aplitude etc...
And then, finally you can throw very relaxed, explosively and with minimum arm movement... And with any stance etc...
Thanks for the new SKANF throwing tips. My throwing and distance has improved tremendously since watching your tutorials. Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks for watching! I mostly have plans to focus more on insights and ideas/concepts - the driving forces that I understand are behind the Skanf throws.
I believe with those first learned as foundations, it should help with future technique videos I want to do further down the line.
Thanks so much. I am trying to really get this Scanf technique down.
You can do it!
Very nice explanation with Elvis example!
Ok I have watched a few of your videos and I have to say you explain Skanf better than most. Maybe it’s a learning style thing but your breakdowns of the body mechanics have been on point. This detail about the active arm in the snapping withdrawal phase and the correction of it is great. I’ve been having trouble with that type of throw at distance because it loses so much power but I’ve seen others use it effectively at much greater distances than across my garage so I was a bit confounded and resorted to sticking with the larger movement/follow through (also the vid you did on with the “lightning bending” analogy was great and confirmed my own mechanistic analysis of the movement so that was validating!). I’ll look through your channel some more but I’d really be interested in a video with more on the details with the overhand ice pick grip. I have been pinching the handle with the webspace of my thumb and first finger and placing my fingers obliquely along the spine for elastic force essentially drawing my hand back in a circle with a extended wrist and from the apex of the “wind up” I am chopping through the circle with my elbow leading trying to have my fingers on the spine passively force the blade forward and letting it slip from the webspace of my fingers but I seem to lose rotational (pitch) control if I release too late or more often lose control of the roll type rotation. Any thoughts?
It might take some time but I’ll make a rough draft video exploring the topics revolving around your requested content.
There is another mechanism of Skanf throwing I haven’t covered yet because it was something I myself have been testing to confirm its applications. I believe it’s an aspect that will lend itself to ice-pick grip.
Unfortunately, there are so many moving parts. I try to cover them individually first so it can then be pieced together without being an information-overload.
Are you in any of the Facebook knife throwing groups?
Excellent ❤
Thanks 😊
good video
bravo
Thanks!
This is spot on, great information!
Thanks! I thought this might be a bit of a fun way to approach waves with a familiar or easy-to-emulate movement.
Great video! Yeah as like you mentioned "flinging", I've been saying for a while now that wave throwing feels like an "knife slinging".
You have an awesome wave going on there, but try to retard it so that you build the wave for the wrists stretch (so that you get maximum strech on it, and the knife rotates backwards as much as it can).
At the same time your wave should be on point where your waist area is going forward.
That's where you'll find "angular velocity" 😉🙌
Thanks for the advice! I’ll work on the adjustments
I think more analogy can be found, for instance, with the frisbee throw… would be interesting for me to know how balanced are your knifes… I mean, where is the gravity point? Is the heaviest part concentrated on the point? Thanks
Frisbee definitely works well for focusing on the slinging movement of the arm (and I think I’ve mentioned it before unless it’s an unreleased video) but can lead to some people generating energy from the shoulder if misunderstood.
I went with the Elvis analogy to highlight the hips as the main driver of momentum and energy. Or are you referring to a different analogy I mentioned?
My knives are generally center-balanced. One set is relatively front-heavy (Flying Steel’s Amulets), which I like a lot.
I do have some handle-heavy knives but I don’t like them for Skanf.
@@SilenMonser no no, it wasn’t referred to something, just a consideration… yeah hips movement are basically in all martial art for instance, mainly boxing. I never thrown a knife, but it seems to me that that a loaded blade could help to keep the direction while flying, I am thinking a dart for instance, no?
Explain in detail at the moment of the click when you need to do it, at what moment and what exactly you use with your hand or forearm, how to catch this moment
I am not sure I understand what you mean by the moment of the click. Are you talking about the release of the knife? Can you give me the minute and second of the video time where this happens in the video?
I'm curious what kind of netting is it ?
Sorry for the late response. It's the one sold by Acejet. It was cheaper when I originally got it. I'm not sure what's the pricing now.
Hello !
Hi! 🙂
Why the mask ? No-one is around ...
Cold air, and slightly smoky from someone burning firewood.
There’s more than one reason to wear masks.
I had the same question. I you are ok.
Oh I was okay. The air was just very cold and smoky. It was a little bit irritating at the time.
I didn't have any scarves so I just took a mask and added some folded paper napkins to act as a simple extra filter.