JAGUAR XKR 2014 V JAGUAR F TYPE 2022 | PICK ONE!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2021
- These two split opinion in the Benz Bavarian Showroom and I wanted to get your thoughts. I'm in the XKR camp but mainly due to some childhood James Bond villain fantasy that I haven't gotten over.
I do love the Jaguar F Type and it really is beautiful but there is something about the brutality of the XK that I wouldn't be ignore if I were given the choice between the two.
The XKR has already gone, so unfortunately I won't be able to give it another drive out but I may be able to take the F Type for a spin before it leaves forever.
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So when someone walks in to buy the F Type are you going to be so forthright and inform them that they have an immature palate ? Or give a glowing review and make a sale?
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I sense that I've hurt your feelings Mike? I would tell them exactly my thoughts because car buying and taste is personal, even if it is a little immature
@@macswhips . Your video was going so well until the end. All F Type owners are immature? Really! Everyone has an opinion but don’t make crass statements. Yes you are insulting people, I’m 60 this year and hardly immature. So many men and women have stopped to admire my car…I guess that makes them immature. When and if someone comes in to buy the F Type why don’t you just say..” seriously? Are you a complete twat”.
@@mikeymikeFType 😂😂 You're not doing a very good job of proving F Type fans are mature! You're 60 years old and are taking the time to get into a TH-cam argument because I made a sarcastic comment about people who had the opposite view to mine. Grow up
@@macswhips . It’s unlikely you know the difference between crass and sarcastic. Good luck selling the F Type… perhaps be more honest when selling it and give your personal view. Now that would be refreshing coming from a car salesman. Stop posting shit if you can’t take criticism
XKR everyday of the week. The design is timeless.
Completely agree Eddie . I have to say the facelift F Types I think are another future classic. But out of the two, XKR all day for me too.
XKR no doubt. Timeless
Absolutely agree.
I've had the 2013 XK-R coupe in black for more than a year and I still keep going outside to stare at it!
ahh that sounds lovely. I'm a huge fan of black cars, I bet that looks great! Is that you daily driver?
@@macswhips The car looks superb in black and pulls many compliments. It is my daily driver. Many members of my club, the JEC, tend to lay up their XK-Rs over the winter. I believe that does more harm than good and I love taking her out year-round. In fact, I'm grabbing my fob right now!
Sorry for the slow reply, this was hidden in my reply section for some reason. I know what you mean about letting them sit, I know this sounds silly, but I bet you can have some fun and slightly greasy roads as well in the colder months!
XKR on every front, especially practicality.
I'm with you. Maybe except for fuel economy!
XKR!
Future Classic
100%
It's strange as I've looked at both and I'm mature, and the xkr will probably be my next purchase. Great content! 👍🏾
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. Definitely agree with you there!
You have fine taste in cars that much is clear :) That XKR is just magic.
haha thanks Todd. They really are special aren't they.
I'm going to buy one of these this year and I am torn because I love both and don't know which to get? I've driven an F-Type S and loved it, and from that moment was determined to own one someday. But the XKR is bigger, it's better looking although I think they are both stunning, it sounds just that little bit better, and is more classically Jaguar. You know I think I just made up my mind. Thanks for the video!
What a fantastic choice you have in front of you. If you wanted my thoughts, I would agree and say get the XKR. You could always replace it with an F Type down the line when the XKR starts to really show its age!
I am very fortunate to own an XKR Black and Speed Pack, sports cats and full SS exhaust. Remapped to 560 bhp. The best car l have ever owned, will l sell it, never!!
Just watched your exhaust upgrade video, it sounds so mean. I bet 560 brake feels mental!
It's important to remember that the XKR was the top of the line and the FType was the cheaper option! Even though the gearbox in the XKR is ancient by modern standards, the car is a modern classic imho.
Yeah this is true. I agree, a cheap modern classic at that, considering the competition.
Hi @macswhips The XKR meets all the criteria of cars that I shouldn’t have parked in my garage:
-long-hood
-narrow-body
-outdated-infotainment system
-bouncy-ride (when driven slow)
-70s looking interior (seats, doors, dashboard)
-wrong color exterior in a sports car (black!)
-etc…
But after watching so many videos talking about it being the best hidden jewel in the GT world and probably becoming a future classic I was tempted to drive one. And boy they were absolutely right!
I bought one here in California in May 2022 and I am super fascinated by the ton of potential this car has, this car is really a carmodder’s dream!!!
15,000 bought me a stock 2007 XKR w/ 4.2 supercharged engine with barely 70k miles; I think this is a steal for the price and I am so excited about the big changes I’ll be able to make to this car for less than $3200!!!
-lowering-springs and spacers $1100 (parts & labor)
-side-fins from an Audi RS5 to make car look even lower $300 (since sideskirts for the XKR are so hard to find)
-paint-correction $500 (paint is still good for a more than 10-year old car though)
-powder paint wheels 🛞 to black $400
-blackout front grilles, side, and rear emblems $500
-black Alcantera interior ceiling upholstery $350
-change all interior/exterior bulbs to white LEDs $60
The looks and handling of this car is going to be even more amazing than the enthusiast here claim it to be… I will upload before/after pictures when I am done with my project 😎🍻
BTW… the car sitting next to it in my garage is 10-years newer and over $100k more, a $2017 Carrera S.
2007 XKR = Great Value for your money! 💵
Thats fantastic to hear Johann, I'm glad you decided to pick one up. I'm a huge fan of them despite the issues you listed!
That does sound like an absolute steal and its interesting to hear the changes you're planning. Can't wait to see the photos / videos, you'll have to send them over to me on Instagram.
That sounds like a dream two car garage, if I'm ever in California I'll have to come over and have a look!
I learned to drive in a caddy pick up 😂
I own a F type and I agree with you
Older car was special
What a great car to learn in. Beautiful things the original Caddy's.
@@macswhips This one had Fitzpatrick written down the side 😂
Roadworks van
F-Type all the way for short trips. If I'm taking a road trip XKR all the way. So I guess I need them both. 😁
That's a very good point. I have to agree, now you've pointed it out, you can't have one without the other!
Oddly my love of the F-Type led me to buying an 2014 XKR-S in French Racing Blue. Here in the U.S. the XKR-S is super rare and I actually forgot it even existed. When searching for a F Type R the XKR-S came up as something I may like from the search algorithm and I immediately fell in love.
I like both too as well, they seems to split opinion but despite my joking in the video I am a fan of both. But yeah, the XKR has something about it. Do you still have yours?
There's no comparison. One looks like an Air Max trainer the other a sleek English Oxford. Jaguar tried too hard too distance itself from the conventional conservative palette with the f type, but nice work with the xf and xj. I have a slate grey 2007 XK, with modest 300/bhp. More then enough to wet my appetite. Ivory leather, walnut veneer is a must!! Plus a load of quality leather luggage and you have one smart automobile! Best of British. 🇬🇧
An Air Max 😂 and an Oxford. Love the shoe analogy and I have to agree. Do you think the F Types ticks a box for the younger palette? How long have you had your XK Laurence? I do like them in grey
Had my xk portfolio (2009) convertible for nearly 9yrs now & still love it , the 385 horses is enough for me it does need a little bit of work now , wheels mostly but that'll get done this Yr. Just a bit pissed about paying £600 Road tax when I do less than 4000 miles a yr. Electric cars produce more co2s when you take into account the co2s it cost to produce them
Your's sounds lovely. Only minor issues by the sounds of it. Yeah the road tax at £600 is crazy, its putting a lot of people off buying certain cars. Absolutely agree on the c02 bit.
They are both nice in there own way but if you want a Jag buy a 2015/16 F type R. You get better looks better noise and an all-round better experience
I have to disagree there. I do love both but the XK would get my vote...even though I'd likely regret my choices when the the lack of modern comforts become apparent after a week of ownership!
@@macswhips I have the F type R and my friend has the XKR. There isn't really any difference in modern comforts but the XK lacks in drama and the boot space isn't as good due to the totally useless rear seats. In my opinion the F type is just a little better in everyway
Totally useless rear seats haha. Such a spot on comment. I've never understood why manufactures do that.
How long have you had it for?
@@macswhips I've had it 5 years and it's been fantastic. I don't think I'll ever give it up I've enjoyed it that much
XK. More practical and in my opinion better looking, although the F type is also a stunner and a fantastic drivers car
Completely agree on the looks. Although, like you said, both are brilliant and great to look at!
The XKR makes me involuntarily turn my neck - to gaze at it everytime I see one. ...The F type just makes me involuntarily roll my eyes up and down !
That’s a good way of putting it!😅 I have to admit I think the F Type is a pretty thing as well, although not a head turner!
XKR if you’re ready to blast down to town to check out the new slippers and pipes on offer … or the F type R in coupe version if you want one of the best looking cars ever designed and are still under 50 !
The F Type is definitely timeless and like you said, still relatively cheap!
I tried the f type, just didnt get on with the driving position, just felt very low in the car.. i like to feel i can place a car on the road as precisely as i can..the xk, feels a natural driving position for me, and better view of where the front of the car is..personal i guess
I know what you mean, I find the same in Merc's. I feel that you are so hunkered down in the driving position. I've not had much experience with F Type to be honest but will have to drive one and see what you mean at some point
the legend XKR of course ..i have one allready and another cadillac CTS-V and i would keep the XKR for ever
That is quite the two car garage! I think I've only ever seen one CTS once before in person
Yup! I own/(have owne3d) several Jags, and I chose a 2014 XK Coupe over the F-Type. Quite simply, I have owned ( and have driven an F-Type Convertible) a number of "sports" cars, but I prefer the "GT" XK Coupe much more!
Hi Vernon, thanks for the comment. That’s interesting that tge XKR is your pic over other sports cars. I unfortunately didn’t manage to have an extended drive in one but the short drive I did was extremely comfortable, despite the performance and incredible noise!
Convertible XKR, supercharge ! I have XF & XKR, bring it
Yes yes, thats a nice combo you have!
I own an XK8, and I love it, when I replace it, It will be an XKR. Best car I have ever owned. People who talk Jags down are either jealous or don't have a clue. I have owned a lot of nice cars, the only other car I have ever gotten positive comments on was when I owned a brand new Spitfire. Where ever I go now people love my XK8, I always get tons of compliments. I'm sure my future XKR will be even better.
I've always like the XK8 looks! Never driven one though unfortunately. A Triumph Spitfire?
How long have you had the XK8 Claude?
@@macswhips 3 years, I am looking to move up to an 07 to an 14. Preferably a XKR, but I would get an XK. I've driven the new aluminum design, and yes there is a difference. I've even entertained the idea of add a XJR or XJ to my stable in addition to my other Jag.
I looked at both cars and it was the XKR coupe for me. The extra interior and boot space was the deciding factor.
Nice! A few people have said the XKR's practicality made a difference. Do you still have yours Steven?
@@macswhips, yes, I just purchased my XKR last month. Love it.
I was exactly the same. Those rear "seats" that really are for your coat, handbag, shopping etc, and the much larger boot (Mine has the spare wheel well carpeted to expand the boot) just make such a difference. The difference between a daily driver, and a toy.
Sorry for the slow reply Steven this was hiding in my comments section for some reason. I hope you’re enjoying the XKR!
Yeah I can imagine that makes a huge difference. Is there any way of removing the spare wheel on them? I know that’s a risk but I imagine it would help with space
I wouldn't mind either one but XKR would be my first choice.
I’m with you on that. I definitely wouldn’t say no to either!
Sorry for all the comments, could talk about these cars for days, lol
Not at al Michael, I really appreciate the comments. You’re also talking with more experience than me so it’s nice to learn!
The XKR for me, but i would say that as I bought the one your reviewing....Nige W
Ah fantastic! I'm glad you saw this Nigel! Are you still enjoying it? I have to say it was one of my favourite cars that I saw when I was working with them!
I own an XKR and went to check out the new F-Types the other day. Afraid I'm not impressed... Interior quality on the F-Type is noticably down compared to the XKR. The seat design is totally wrong for me, as the edge cuts into my arm if I try to relax for a long cruise. I also think the front light design, while better than the older F-Types, is too far the other way, too squinty.
XKR all day, every day.
Yeah I have to say it doesn't feel quite a plush as the XKR inside. I do like the lights though I have to say, look very similar to the new Aston's which I am fan of! Were you thinking of part ex'ing yours for an F Type?
I would pick the XKR in this comparison.
How about a 2016 Firesand Orange F-Type R though? 😀 That's what I bought recently and it's my dream car but a couple of years from now I might swap it for a 2014 XKR when I calmed down a bit because my F-Type is like what I imagine being on drugs must be, proper insane 😄
I do actually love the F Type in Orange! Im usually boring and like cars in black but blues and oranges I am warming to in recent years. How long have you had yours? I’ve not had an extended drive in the F Type but from all accounts they’re lovely to drive…if not a bit mad!
@@macswhips I love both the XKR and my 16 F-Type R and they are 2 different characters. My FTR looks mad sporty and still elegant, you can drive it normal and the wife is super happy, the car is super quiet, comfortable and posh. But when you put your foot down power comes on instantly and the stock exhaust sounds like the gates of hell opened (even from 1000 RPM), it's literally animalistic. Then if you want to have fun at low speed you open the exhausts valves and just let it crackle and pop even at 15mph and everyone just giggles constantly 😂
Yeah that sounds amazing. I really do like the F Types, like you said, classy and elegant but also a hooligan!
I like them both but I would go with the XKR. XKs are beautiful. Btw the screwed up the F type with the facelift. The huge bulky grill in the front does not fit the sleek design of the car
I'm much the same, I'm a fan of both. Interesting view on the new one. I have to say, I like both pre and post facelift. Although the new ones are less distinctive for sure. They almost look like an Aston these days.
I love my 510HP XKR !!!
I can imagine. What I don't want to imagine is the fuel costs associated with ownership!
The only car I’ve owned that can match my beautiful XKR dynamic R (with the 2015 sell off black pack) for shear beauty was my fantastic Jaguar XJS. Now that was a car also in its day. I hate to think how long ago it was that I drove that home from the showroom. Without doubt the XKR is a beautiful car I never tire of driving it and the sound is something else.
Ah I do have such a soft spot for the XJS. Never driven one though! Do you still have the XKR Steve?
What would you pick for a similar price, a 2013 XKR-S or 2016 F Type R?
@@iSOBigD I would pick the XKR every time. I had a F type demo for a week when i was changing my car. Nearly broke my back. So uncomfortable, and hard ride. The F type is just a sports car, not a coupe for every day use.
@@stevewalker4331 Thank you. That's very interesting to hear as I've been watching videos and some people mentioned the F Type R is much softer riding than the XKR
Keep it coupe on these XKs, the overall lines are completely lost on the cabriolet!
Agreed.
I've got the 4.2 XKr and won't upgrade to the 5.0 itr or the F Type because I think mine sounds better than both. The 4.2 has a deeper, British sounding exhaust note.
Thats really interesting. I'm not sure I know the 4.2 noise off the top of my head. I think you need to get a video on your channel haha!
@@macswhips I will do. The 4.2 has less rasp and more crackle, if you know what I mean. The same sot of tone as the DB9
Yeah I understand what you mean. DB9's really do sound amazing, got the chance to drive one of those this year and its a beautiful engine note
No experience of the R, but I’ve owned an XK 4.2 and 5.0 and was surprised how much smoother the 5.0 engine feels. Not all about the sound 🙂
XKR is awesome. I assume you were joking when you said you can fit 5 or 6 adults in it?!
I was haha. Cracking car but a 2 seater!
Had a 2010XK, went shopping for a newer XKR when I started to consider the F-Type, long story short, it really wasn't even close for me in the end. A coupe XKR (which I ended up with a 28k mile 2015, then I tuned it and put undersized pulley, now close to 650bhp) is by far the better looking vehicle! Jaguar seriously messed up IMO when they dropped the XK platform for the F-Type...
PS; That Italian Racing Red takes that car to a whole other level, wished mine was that color!!
No I fully agree with you there. I really like the F Type but I can see why people stick with the XKR. It has that bit of magic that the F Type just doesn't have. Yes the Italian Racing red is unreal! What colour is yours?
@@macswhips agree and thanks for taking the time to reply! Mine is the silver (had a black 2010 XK before thie one, beautiful, but wasn't the XKR, lol) and while that's not the most exciting color, I'm extremely picking and this one met 8 of my 10 most important criteria for what I need in a car like this and it's prestine. Until you get to hypercars, IMHO, there is no better looking car on the road and its my daily driver. Thanks again!
No problem at all. Love that as a daily driver! I bet you're in the petrol station a lot 😅
It’s the XK-R for me. That sound is both evil and wonderful. The F-Type can’t compare as it’s restricted by the petrol particulate filters.
Design-wise, I have to confess a total bias. I’ve got an XF 3.0S (so sadly only a diseaseal) in Italian Racing Red with the ivory leather interior, and it blows me away every single day. To have that combo, with that engine… 🤤
Evil and wonderful is the perfect way to describe it. Ooo lovely, I've always liked the XF's as well. But yeah, the XKR is special. The electric Jag's that are inbound have big boots to fill.
XKR for me. Saw three marked within feet of each other at Housesteads Fort this week. Two XKR's and a beautiful XKRS in red and cream leather. I parked my XF 3.0S right next to it. Dark blue, portfolio trim, oatmeal leather. Super trip back down to York. Tell you what the diesel can't half pull quick in fifth gear.
Sorry for the slow reply, this was hidden in my replies section. I completely agree with you, the XKR for me is timeless. I love the XF as well, my girlfriend‘s dad has an XF estate in red and it’s lovely.
XKR all the way!!!! And I’ve owned XJS’s and XJR’s. But hands down I love my XK cabriolet. It still turns heads on Sâo Miguel island
Ah I have a soft spot for XJS's but have never driven one. Have you always been a Jag man Scott?
@@macswhips yeah, since the mid 90’s. I cut my teeth on a 1987 XJS coupe is sweet condition and low miles. I traded my 1960 Coupe DeVille for it. It wasn’t the best car deal that I ever made. The other guy definitely made out. That’s when I learned that the older V12’s are better with high mileage rather than low mileage, e we hen buying one. lol. Lesson learned. But I’ve owned 6 Jaguar’s in total and have loved all of them, except maybe for that first ‘87 one. But in defense of the V12’s and their Lucas electronics, my 1994 6.0 V12 was a wonderful car. I actually used it as a daily driver in my real estate business in Southern California.
Oh wow. What was the Coupe DeVille like? I don't think I'll find one of those to drive here in the uk! Interesting about the high mileage on the V12's, is that because ones that are high mileage must be good examples?
The XKR all day long. I prefer (and have) an XK Dynamic R coupe in Santorini Black.
The red one in this video is a Dynamic R, with giveaways being the wheels and seats.
Probably the best version of the car as it has the upgraded suspension, diff software, gearbox software and exhaust from the XKR-S, but without the expensive carbon fibre aero (which I think spoiled the looks).
This also explains why it sounds so good.
As a final bonus, it would seems that whilst Jaguar were putting all the other mechanicals from the XKR-S into these cars, they "forgot" to remove the 550bhp engine map😂
Or, to put ot another way, they didn't want to upset XK-RS owners so promoted the car as having the same power output as the regular XKR.
Result!
Interesting. I lucked out getting to drive this version then!
How long have you had yours?
Thank you for the comment, really interesting to learn about it.
XKR for me. But owning one makes me biased!!
Same here. I wish I owned one! Maybe one day
XKR all day - i have one!
Slight bias then! 😉 But I am with you, no competition!
Are you kidding the F Type is a Gorilla in a tuxedo. I love it.
Such a good way of describing it 😂 I do like the F Types but the XKR is just an raw animal
An iron fist in a velvet glove
7:08 Laughing at the petty spats on here over the XKR and Ftype. As an owner of a 2007 4.2 XKR in Botanical Green (BRG with a gold fleck) I am a little biased. I considered trading it in against an 2016 Ftype 3.0V6 manual in BRG but when both cars were parked side by side I just didn't get the same feeling from the Ftype. They are good looking cars but the XKR just has something about it and seeing less of them on the roads is definitely a good thing. Likely to replace it with an XJ Rsport or XJR if I can find one that ticks all of my boxes.
I'm embarrassed to say I'm part of the spats, or one of them at least 😂 The colour of yours sounds lovely! I know what you mean on the side by side, the XKR has that special something. Have you replaced yours yet?
It’s gotta be the XKR , cracking car and more useable as a daily driver … I know , I’ve got a 2014 one 🤣
Yeah I can imagine they'd be absolutely fine as a daily. Practical and monstrous, perfect combo. How long have you had yours?
@@macswhips I’ve had it for 6 months , used daily , it’s a 2014 bought with 44,000 on the clock , no problems so far. It’s a great car to drive , nice and smooth gear change when in auto , optional dynamic mode combined with Sport mode turns it into a wild animal and huge fun , acceleration is super rapid with even better exhaust sound. Have to be cautious in the wet with over 500bhp and rear wheel drive. It does have a winter mode that calms things down a bit in slippery conditions. All in all I have no regrets and would recommend one for anyone thinking of buying, just do some due diligence and check things over. 👍 they look fantastic as well , always have people looking at it , it has paddle shifters also , something that’s often overlooked
@@boyblunder8889 I had to laugh a little at the winter mode comment, as I live in Utah and if there is even a dusting of snow on the ground, with winter mode engaged, that car heads for the ditch! Now, it might calm it down, but it don't keep it straight, lol
Prepare ! Prepare ! Prepare !
For what sorry Richard?
I have a 14 XKR Dynamic and I wouldn’t swap for an F-Type. Where would I put my dogs on trips?! 😂
Thats a good point! F Type not that practical! But above all, just not as cool!😂
The XKR could never seat 6 adults , unless they are all dwarfs from the circus, most child seats won’t fit comfortably either. The rear seats are just a suggestion and only useable as extra storage for bags , coats etc 👍
haha I was only joking! Completely agree, its basically a shelf!
@@macswhips A useful shelf, for jackets and small bags. What do F Type owners to with umbrellas and wet coats?
XKR give me that!
I'm with you!
The XK is a beautiful grand tourer.
The F Type is an asbo sports car.
I expect the main thing that will be better in the F Type is the tech because its more upto date appart from that the XK is the best.
Yeah I completely agree. You could tell that the tech in the F Type was almost brand new. I am a fan of the F Type but the XKR just has that special something.
XKR.........
Same here. It's not even close for me
Xkr
Agreed. Seems that most people prefer the XKR!
I had both and finally sold the XKR and kept the F Type.
If you haven't driven both you can't make the judgement.
The XKR is a fantastic car but it's showing it's age and every one you see is driven by an overweight grey haired wrinkly going to the golf club that looks like they work in a Bank for a living.
The F Type is only worth getting if its the V8 version and the people who drive them look like they might rob banks for a living.
I did drive both in the end. I still preferred the XKR, purely for the drama of it all. The creature comforts in the F Type were lovely though and the vents that raise from the dashboard are very Bond.
But, you're definitely right about the drivers of the XKR.
Did he REALLY say the XK could seat 6 adults in comfort!! Errrrr hmmmmm.
👀 what about 6 small people?
XKR...proper GT Jag
Perhaps the last one..?
Interesting to be told by a youngster that I’m immature!
I’m sorry Stephen, it was tongue in cheek 😉 both are nicer than the Insignia I’m rolling around in!
@@macswhips
Not a problem, my comment was also meant to be humerus. 😁 With best regards.
XKR much better😌
I agree!
F-type and proud to be immature 😜
haha uncultured 😉