THE SIMPLER WAY: A visit to Ted Trainer's Pigface Point.

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  • @AsociacionTouda
    @AsociacionTouda ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ted Trainer is an artist of life and one of the most important thinkers of our time on our global predicament. His Simpler Way is one of the only realistic approaches to global collapse of both the State and the Capitalist Markets.

  • @KimShelley-t5w
    @KimShelley-t5w ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been following Ted Trainer's ideas for some years and I think they are very well thought out and clearly presented. I like the idea of most industry being replaced by craft. In this video Ted shows us what he means as well as telling us, and demonstrates that at Pigface Point he practises what he preaches.
    The biggest stumbling block to all this (as Ted obviously knows) is persuading people to accept even the idea of such a radically different society. I don't think I know anyone who, if I told them about the Simpler Way, wouldn't be prepared to take the idea seriously. Even if I could persuade them to watch the video, they would probably say, "Well, nice idea, but not realistic."
    The paradox is that there's little evidence that people are content with the status quo. People do want radical change, the problem is there's no consensus on what we should have instead. Also, people are so accustomed to the idea of change coming from government or rich entrepreneurs that they find it hard to imagine grass-roots initiated change. Ted has said several times in his writings that he finds it difficult to be optimistic about his ideas ever becoming a reality. But he refuses to give up hope, hence this video.

  • @RobertGoyette-l6j
    @RobertGoyette-l6j หลายเดือนก่อน

    I knew Ted from the 1960s when I was working in the YMCA. He had great ability at gymnastics and taught me a lot at my own gymnastic skills, I remember him starting his uni studies. He is a genius in what he does. Bob Goyette

  • @Dante07cid
    @Dante07cid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Definitely a new subscriber. Simply amazing. I very much enjoyed your presentation. Finding something like this in America would be wonderful.

  • @robinschaufler444
    @robinschaufler444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this beautiful, charming, and inspiring video. No need to "improve" production quality, just as there is no need to "improve" sheep or rice. You gave me what I've been searching for - an illustrated vision of a possible AND desirable future.
    This little paradise has a few prerequisites. In this world of private land ownership, someone must own the land. Ted, this land belonged to your family and you inherited it, right? Have you been selling shares in it to your villagemates? Or are they living there courtesy of your approval? What happens to its ownership when you leave this mortal coil? By what arrangement can this community continue in perpetuity?
    In a continent-wide system like Turtle Island before European invasion, it is fine to have no private land ownership, and to understand that indigenous peoples belong to the land, not the other way around. Perhaps in a few hundred years, this may happen, but we need stepping stones adjacent to the present, adjacent to the next present, and so forth. Not only is land hard to come by, but productive, arable land is even harder. When you do find land with water running through it, as often as not, the water is contaminated either from the sociopathic settlements upstream or from its previous sociopathic occupants. Soil is contaminated, too.
    Some would-be ecovillagers come from money and privilege, and could purchase the land. They would then need a model for how to aportion it and what to do about sharing ownership.
    Other ecovillagers lack such capital. We need a model for granting them land. Would they start GoFundMe campaigns? Would they seek Big Donors? If a donor did offer them land or capital, how would they escape the kinds of traps that Big Philanthropy always sets?
    There are other prerequisites to explore here, such as national/state/provincial government protection, with the additional trap of taxation requiring perhaps more than two days a week of paid labor. A legal system that allows the village to choose whom to let in and whom not, so you don't end up with a whole village of painters and no blacksmith, potter, or textile shop.
    And then there are questions of how the village evolves over generations. The children may not have the same aptitudes as the parents. When the blacksmith dies or retires, what if this no-growth village has no apprentice to take their place? Does someone have to voluntarily leave to make room for a new blacksmith?
    I especially liked the pair of models of a modern suburbia and the same place, transformed. Here in the US, I don't know of any suburban community that would be willing to instantly transform en masse, but it might be doable in steps. Are there any models of one step at a time transformation?
    I'm asking a lot of questions. We need a complete Manual on technologies, governance, and context. Maybe it would be best for you to write your answers at thesimplerway.info and drop a link in your reply. Meanwhile, I pledge to explore your website.

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the cheer up! Just to clarify, our block is only a family homestead, not a community, although we have varying numbers in the "caretaker's" cottage..
      As I see it the most important movement is Transition Towns.. Ecovillages illustrate some very important aspects of the kind of society we want, especially re community/collectivism, but not all people can live in them. Se need to wrk to transform existing towns and suburbs into similar communities. I think the "revolution" is actually going well; rapidly increasing discontent with consumer-capitalism and increasing desire to develop sensible alternative ways. We need to work hard to get more people into the team.
      Ted

  • @GreenNeighbour
    @GreenNeighbour 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Ted, I heard your interview with Alex Smith on Radio EcoShock, and I became an instant fan of your work and your approach. I shall follow your future pursuits with great interest. Thanks for everything that you're doing to show people a simpler way of being. All the best to you, sir.

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Great to know you are in the team. What we need most now are videos showing how good and sustainable life on an eco-village can be, and what some of the Transition Towns are achieving. I think there is rapidly increasing realisation that we have to go in the direction of localism, cooperation and simplicity in lifestyles and systems.

  • @juanrodriguezlopez560
    @juanrodriguezlopez560 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are a great master in many handcrafts, arts and show us a magnificent model to follow.
    My family is pursuing partially a kind of this self sufficient productiin in our piece of land. Still mixing it with urban life.
    But we strongly believe that this is the future more suitable for people to be happier.
    Many thanks for your efforts to convince people about the need of this capital shift. You can be sure some of us got the lesson.
    But forget to save Mankind, our fate is to collapse, no way to escape. Our path was always directed to that end from the very beggining.

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Juan! Great to know you are in the team. Awareness of the need to shift to simpler and cooperative ways is increasing fast, which is not surprising given the accelerating failure of the dominant system to provide for people. We just have to go on working hard to spread the new ideas to as many as possible. The global financial system can go down quickly so we need to have many people ready to try to move their localities to the new ways. Best wishes for your efforts. Ted

  • @NatashaForder
    @NatashaForder 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting video, thank you, with lots of great innovative ideas and great creativity. I watched various videos some years ago that I'd found online showing your ideas and was pleased to find this video. I don't agree with everything said. However, I think some of these ideas could be good to explore further, without a limit on travel, and in a more suburban environment.

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Natasha. Can I encourage you to say more about your reservations, and aspects of the video you think others would not like. We need to learn more about what kind of messages are effective. I might have made the alternative seem more austere than it could be, and more rural. We need videos showing how nice life in existing Ecovillages can be..
      Ted

    • @NatashaForder
      @NatashaForder 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TedTrainer-yj9sq You're welcome. I totally agree that we don't need to spend money lots of money, globe trot, have expensive items etc. to be happy. In my view life isn’t about working long hours most of the year for a short time on holiday the remainder. For me this isn’t a balanced path. Maybe it works for other people. In my view the balanced path is enjoyment of life most of the time! I've enjoyed holidays abroad, especially ones meeting up with friends of the country but equally I've enjoyed the ones closer to home. Travel is an adventure, it’s the enjoyment of different places, meeting different people, history, food, architecture etc. etc. We are very lucky currently to have the option to travel. Something most in the past didn’t have the opportunity to do and the way it’s heading most, apart from the wealthy won’t again.
      I used to be very much into the word ‘sustainable’. It makes total sense not to waste anything, especially seeing as we work for the money to buy the items, energy, or food, in the first place. I buy second hand items as well as new items. I donate that which I no longer use to charity. On the face of it being able to borrow a not often used item from a friend, neighbour or community hub is good. All of this is good, and then you come across the UN Sustainability Goals. Many sound good on the surface, but the reality is quite different when you drill down. It’s a world of carbon credits and more. Your ideas look at equity, their ideas are in reality suited to the wealthy carrying on as they always have done whilst those with less money sell their carbon credits to survive. Then we have the WEF and it’s look at what the future might be. You’ll own nothing and be happy. You’ll eat less meat etc. And of course enjoy the bugs… All of these ideas and policies take away personal responsibility/control from the individual and give it to Governments and unelected bodies of some kind.
      Then we have the 15 minute cities/20 minute neighbourhoods, yes, all sounds good again on the face of it. It’s good to have the everyday things close to home that you can walk or cycle to. But when this is bought in as the only option, it’s not such a good one. Even travelling to see a family member in a different ‘zone/district’ will be more difficult, especially if a person doesn’t have enough carbon credits. Link travel into a social credit score and digital IDs, and like a country close to you people may not be allowed to access public transportation, let alone have their own. Taking away people’s freedom and right to roam, is that right? We could look at the C40 Mayors and what they are trying to bring in. In London there is ULEZ. Oxford LTNs, which are ruining people’s businesses. In the UK some people have been fighting back against these. The people of Thetford (UK), for example.
      We need to see the struggle for control from Gov and large unelected bodies. With their narratives that creates fear in people, which makes people easier to steer and control, for example, the world will cease to exist in 10 years time due to man-made climate change. That 10 years I see keeps moving along on the timeline! And other such messaging on a range of topics. We also need to put aside a fear of lack.
      We need to take back sustainable, without the aspect of fear and lack. Yes, there are lots of issues around the world that cause lack for people. This may be due to war, oppression, Gov/unelected body initiatives. Yes, it would be great if everyone can have the opportunity to live a good, fulfilled life with all needs met wherever they are in the world. But the only place any of us can start is with us. So, whilst it’s good to be aware of, in my view it shouldn’t be the main driver.
      What if we consider living a fulfilled, happy, joyful life full of love as the main place of where ‘we’ want to be. If I, as an individual, look at that as where I want to be in life, I can then look at how I get there. Many of the things you mention in your video elude to that. We can be happy being creative, taking a walk in the forest or local park, or getting together with friends and family for a home cooked meal. Those people with skill in growing or sewing or knitting can pass those skills on to those who are interested. But in today’s fast paced world many don’t see these things as ‘exciting’ because people are on their own journeys of discovery. It’s great to ‘Make Do and Mend’ going with the WWII slogan. It’s great being able to sew on a button or doing a small repair on an item of clothing. But that doesn’t mean we need to live in lack never having the enjoyment of a new item of clothing or indeed making an item from new yarn or material. It’s all about balance.
      Also, to note say everyone stopped eating out or going to the pub for a pint, this has a knock on effect in the livelihoods of those who work in those areas. The last 3+ years has shown that. I personally don’t eat often. But on the flip side, it’s nice to have that option.
      I think it’s wider than just life in an eco village. It’s about living life to the full and from the heart. Narrowing it down to an eco village potentially puts it out of reach of people. So it’s great to see what you’re doing, and I’ve seen other examples. It’s great to see all the innovation and ideas, I love seeing what you’ve created. But it’s also worth remembering that people outside of those systems are interested in what they can do without such great change. From growing a few herbs on the windowsill in a flat to growing some fruit or veggies in the garden. And always bearing in mind the option of being free to roam, whether by foot, public transport, or by car, and enjoying travel further afield by plane or boat. In the UK the freedom to roam is really a fairly recent thing. There weren’t always public rights of way. These were fought for and one, let’s not give them away so easily.
      When we all start acting from the heart, rather than the head, we start to see there is a different way. Change isn’t always easy due to aspects of our lives that we are born into. Change can happen in an instant for some people, but for most is often a slow process. It’s inspiring seeing people living a fulfilled life within nature, enjoying what that environment brings. But in my view, it’s change from the heart that inspires, not from lack or fear.
      I hope that helps.

    • @NatashaForder
      @NatashaForder 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TedTrainer-yj9sq In the video you mentioned about medicine. Living a life from the heart should hopefully mitigate a lot of the requirements for medicine. However, there are plenty of herbs that can be grown and used and/or Bach flowers that could be taken. The knowledge of energy medicine, visualisation, and the placebo effect are important. Tools such as Tapping/EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) is very helpful. There are many other types that are worth looking into.

    • @harrowagenda21
      @harrowagenda21 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NatashaForder The main problem with excessive travel is the flights. Massive CO2 per capita at the moment, and little sign of that coming down anytime soon. I spent three times my fair 'allowance' going from Oz to Europe last year. Corporates think nothing of flying execs all over the world for short trips, also consultancy firms. Universities and governments are getting a little more sustainable. Nice to see Pigface Point again, I only visited once in 1996. Looks very similar

    • @NatashaForder
      @NatashaForder 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harrowagenda21 In terms of CO2 I guess it depends on which science you look at. If you look at "The Science" as given by most mainstream Media (Sky News Australia seems to often report other views) or the Governments (although you have a senator that goes against the narrative), then CO2 creates manmade global warming, back in the old days, or in today's terms it's called manmade climate change. However, there are many, many scientists, that don't get a platform, that don't agree with "The Science". It's always worth looking at all sources, even those you think you disagree with. I was very much into all environmental matters back in the late 90's and early 2000's. However as time's gone on I've done more research and I don't go along with "The Science" in terms of manmade climate change. I personally don't agree with waste for wastes sake, and why waste life travelling if you don't need to, I'm sure some business trips may fit into this category.

  • @hellorhighwater8543
    @hellorhighwater8543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES TED!! Looking Lush! Great video. By the way, David Holmgren sends his regards. Be well 🌱

  • @LittlePetieWheat
    @LittlePetieWheat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your books Ted. They are very accessible.

  • @ashb3117
    @ashb3117 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved this. I think often about what it would take to get to this kind of living in my life, and among my social group. Ted, would you be keen to do an interview for a podcast I'm starting to address this topic?

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ash, Thanks! I'd be very keen to do an interview. Can you email me on tedtrainertsw@gmail.com.

  • @LisBastian
    @LisBastian ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video - well articulated!

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Lis! Apologies for the technical quality; it is home made and the App was difficult to control. I am not an IT techie but am trying to level out the sound and will circulate a new link if I can. I hope the video is of use to people working to persuade others to be for radical s system change.
      Thanks again
      Ted

  • @LittlePetieWheat
    @LittlePetieWheat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would be interested to know what criteria you apply to decide if a technology fits with the "Simpler Way"? I guess if it doesn't contribute to world problems, it might be OK?

    • @TedTrainer-yj9sq
      @TedTrainer-yj9sq  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don't have a neat definition. I think resource-cheapness is important, and not complex or dependent on elaborate skills or machinery... so hand tools. Ivan Illich used the term "convivial" as a criterion ...like William Morris in that we should use ways that are enjoyable and facilitate friendly cooperative interaction. Nobody likes making coffee mugs in a factory, but village potters enjoy making them. Simple technologies enable high resilience; everyone in the village can fix anything that goes wrong. This also feeds into solidarity and feelings of empowerment; we can run this town well, we're not dependent on global IT networks or expensive professionals or Elon.

    • @LittlePetieWheat
      @LittlePetieWheat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TedTrainer-yj9sq Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I very much appreciate your insights. I may read / listen to The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul, as some of his ideas (e.g. surrogate activities / diversions) interest me.