Black Dinner: The Betrayal that Inspired the Red Wedding

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  • @l.4165
    @l.4165 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Hot pie remembers

    • @Baelor-Breakspear
      @Baelor-Breakspear 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ser Hot of Pie is his name, please use his correct name. He’s earned it

    • @bearholdensharkslux4791
      @bearholdensharkslux4791 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Baelor-Breakspearcall him what he is

    • @Baelor-Breakspear
      @Baelor-Breakspear 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bearholdensharkslux4791 lord hot pie??

    • @LisaAnn777
      @LisaAnn777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am sure he remembers dessert.

    • @brucewayne799
      @brucewayne799 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you smell what the hot pie is cooking

  • @Bookwitherin
    @Bookwitherin ปีที่แล้ว +77

    This episode…is what changed me. Changed my life, broke my heart, broke me, destroyed everything I once was! Lol! Literally! I do my yearly re watch of GoT, and still dread this episode every single damn time. I am forever a die hard Stark fan. Thanks for another great video! ❤

  • @onewowen
    @onewowen ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Sometime I hate the word 'Plot armor doesn't exist in real life' because some people are just that lucky sometime.

    • @Catkovi
      @Catkovi ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sometime, but not literally always

    • @Blackmamba648
      @Blackmamba648 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Catkoviyou’d be surprised

    • @mohammadhosseini6675
      @mohammadhosseini6675 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CatkoviAdolf Hitler plot armour intensifies

    • @dylanmoreno16
      @dylanmoreno16 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Genghis Khan is literally our world’s MC

    • @grungeg7086
      @grungeg7086 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      right. like how many nazis and perpetrators of unit 731 got to live out the rest of their lives in peace

  • @DrGaslight187
    @DrGaslight187 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    That’s a fact about Dacey Mormont. RIP to the fiery young cub. 😢

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Still haven’t forgiven George for that one 😔

  • @sculptureofsound2
    @sculptureofsound2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "Out-of-pocketly" is my new favorite adverb.

  • @Titantro
    @Titantro ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There is also the blood party in Roskilde. It was a reconciliation feast where 3 kings in Denmark meet and one king Svend betrayed the others, killed King Knud and King Valdemar escaped an startet the war that would unite Denmark🇩🇰

  • @sanitizerwilson1599
    @sanitizerwilson1599 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It wasn't the only event that inspired there was Glencoe Massacre that happen in Scotland in 1692AD

  • @proffnanners
    @proffnanners 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I bless the rains down in castemere was so savage lol

  • @laur_bk
    @laur_bk ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Have you heard about the Blood Feast of Roskilde in 1157? after the danish king Erik III died, the country was split into three kingdoms, lead by kings all saying they have a legitimate claim to the throne. One is Eriks cousin Knud, the other his nephew Valdemar and the last his illegitimate son Sven.
    The three Kings are at war for ten years but finally negotiate a peace treaty. They hold a big feast to celebrate the new found peace, but one of the kings Knud conspire against the others, and tries to kill the other kings at the feast. Seems a lot like the red wedding too

    • @GoodMorningBeautiful4
      @GoodMorningBeautiful4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I now have a new video in my history playlist lol thanks!

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You said "tries", so I take it he failed?

  • @loudradialem5233
    @loudradialem5233 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    About Tywin's question in the end of this video, one can question him why doesn't he surrender if he cares so much for the thousands dying for his side isn't free of guilty.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because Tywin is a kind of guy who committed war crimes first, then rationalized it later.

  • @bretto7
    @bretto7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is the exact content I am looking for. thank you

  • @RedSpade37
    @RedSpade37 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Red Wedding made the insides of my ears sweat.

  • @Jacaerys4life
    @Jacaerys4life ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Unfortunately Robb's Tully half got the better of him after laying with Jeyne Westerling. People say he married her because he's like his father but Ned forsworn the honor of Ashara Dayne to marry Cat and secure Hoster Tully's support in Robert's Rebellion. If Robb was more like his father here he would have married Roslin Frey. Tullys just have no good sense, except the Blackfish that is.

    • @tasha7726
      @tasha7726 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dafuq you talking about?

    • @GoodMorningBeautiful4
      @GoodMorningBeautiful4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I never thought about it like that before lol I think you're right

    • @StickWithTrigger
      @StickWithTrigger ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ned Stark was never betrothed to Ashara Dayne and was never confirmed to have had a relationship with her

  • @user-uq4gr5nl5o
    @user-uq4gr5nl5o ปีที่แล้ว +6

    True, only Tywin ended up killing ten thousand at dinner

  • @AnakinBlackfyre
    @AnakinBlackfyre ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loving the intro by the way.

  • @siamihari8717
    @siamihari8717 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Even in real life, we Humans have deeply rooted social traditions that seemingly transeed written law.
    Its almost like we devloped a stark revoltion to certain actions one can take under certain situations during our evolution to be more able to cooperate.

  • @Taykoe88
    @Taykoe88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved the Oblivion opening scene showing the emperor getting killed lol.

  • @priscilla4301
    @priscilla4301 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great video! Have you heard about the Stockholm Bloodbath? Executions that followed after a banquet, also very similar to the red wedding :)

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes! Definitely similar to the Black Dinner - a bit bloodier too. I believe something like 80 people were executed, a lot more than the Black Dinner, but not quite on the Red Wedding's level.

  • @Iron-Bridge
    @Iron-Bridge 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As bad as it looked in the show, it felt a lot worse in the book. George has this way with words..

  • @annavafeiadou4420
    @annavafeiadou4420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for this video!!Amazing one I didn't know about black dinner before I read those books so I didn't thought of it when I read the red wedding in the books but I thought of something else St Bartholomew's massacre ... it was also a "red wedding".It was later I learned about the black dinner and that it was the inspiration of it!! Thank you again for this one I love historical inspirations explained!!!!

  • @GoodMorningBeautiful4
    @GoodMorningBeautiful4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why Tywin is top 3 favorites for me. He's a cruel and brutal man, but he's got a point.

  • @Knight860
    @Knight860 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    At least justice was served to Tywin by way of Tyrion. Roose may not be long for The Winds of Winter, if Stannis is successful in taking Winterfell, and Walder Frey's kids are going to turn on each other like rabid dogs when he either dies of old age or Arya shows him how winter will come for him eventually.

    • @Jacaerys4life
      @Jacaerys4life ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Snow and ghosts are coming for them.

    • @Knight860
      @Knight860 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Jacaerys4life or Nymeria's wolf pack.

    • @Jacaerys4life
      @Jacaerys4life ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Knight860 Arya is believed by many in Westeros to be with the Stranger. She is one of the "ghosts" I was referring to.

    • @Knight860
      @Knight860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jacaerys4life Good Point.

  • @tla2119
    @tla2119 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this happened in real life to my uncle's tribe back home, but it was not a wedding, just a feast. 20k kill count allegedly

  • @ratgirl34
    @ratgirl34 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh! Please please do The Wall/Hadrians wall! I’ve been thinking about it ever since I watched some history of Rome documentary’s. But I’ve been too busy to actually research it…

  • @Cletus_the_Elder
    @Cletus_the_Elder ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Historical yellow lunch came with tea and an egg roll.

  • @TheBlackBride
    @TheBlackBride ปีที่แล้ว +2

    subbed. this is a nice treat of a vid!

  • @ReiMari12
    @ReiMari12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Look, sometimes you just gotta stab a guy. If that means guest right is broken than so be it.

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      His sword slipped, it was an accident

    • @ReiMari12
      @ReiMari12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely

    • @MVargic
      @MVargic ปีที่แล้ว

      Roose and Robb Stark were both guests under Walder Frey's roof, guests killing fellow guests does not break guest right. Only the Freys broke it because they were the hosts.

  • @Baelor-Breakspear
    @Baelor-Breakspear 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Walder Frey was a great uncle as well. Never trust a great uncle.

  • @twiss9341
    @twiss9341 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thx. Cool vid idea 👍

  • @Hepheat75
    @Hepheat75 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these random history videos

  • @thisfacebelievesyou8862
    @thisfacebelievesyou8862 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    “Out of Pocketedly” 😂

  • @barbarossa1780
    @barbarossa1780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it very hard to believe that Jaime Lannister, a childhood prodigy knight and obviously training from dawn to dusk, never learned to fight with his off hand. Even in a world of shield bearing.

  • @quaylandlavine9527
    @quaylandlavine9527 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:10 is how I'll describe all my behavior from now on!

  • @shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564
    @shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So there were two different William Douglases?

  • @bradwolf07
    @bradwolf07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Epic inspiration

  • @stingerjohnny9951
    @stingerjohnny9951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unless of course that Great Uncle is named Stan….actually not him either 😜

  • @seermayton-el3488
    @seermayton-el3488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully, it will involve what Bran said in his story about the Rat King. Please let it be Lady Stoneheart. Walder Frey becoming insane and feral, becoming the Cannibal of the Twins. And not Aryia with her super OP shapeshifter assassin abilities.

  • @ctobi707
    @ctobi707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the massacre of the memluks in egypt

  • @ayiza8511
    @ayiza8511 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How the hell is Dacey Mormont the rightful Queen in the north

  • @massacolonel5950
    @massacolonel5950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What cartoon is that at the beginning of the intro?

  • @eriik2667
    @eriik2667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    R+L=C.C. (Crusader Chris)

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:37 Except that the Starks never pillaged common folks. It was the Lannisters who always did it. This wasn’t a move by the Lannisters to save lives. This was a move for them to wipe their own ass and justify their war crimes.

  • @jkb1603
    @jkb1603 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The North Remembers

  • @andreaszmavridisz3592
    @andreaszmavridisz3592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brave companion wasnot rooses bannerman. They are a freelanceimg company originally hired by tywin (and probably funded by oberin martel)

    • @CrusaderChris
      @CrusaderChris  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vargo and Roose Bolton made a deal that Vargo would become Lord of Harrenhal if he joins Robb's cause. Also, Roose says "He is my man, as I am King Robb's man." So Roose sees him not so much as a sellsword but closer to a bannerman.

    • @sanitizerwilson1599
      @sanitizerwilson1599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oberyn Martell? Why would Oberyn Martell have any to do with Tywin????????

  • @vx8431
    @vx8431 ปีที่แล้ว

    The law of hospitality seems like straight out of Viking/Germanic pagan traditions since there the law hospitality was very real.

  • @ebonymiller3466
    @ebonymiller3466 ปีที่แล้ว

    First time robb going to battle n he wins them all

  • @FunkBastid
    @FunkBastid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Appropriately, but somewhat out-of-pocketedly called Fat Walda.”

  • @tylerchapman9234
    @tylerchapman9234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boars head. Not a bull

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jon Snow is dead, by the same mistake that his father Ned committed, and there is no chance in hell that he would be resurrected, the TV Show already probe the amount of plot holes and out of characters moments that would create, George RR Martin would be very stupid to resurrect Jon Snow out pure fanservices.

    • @_S.D._
      @_S.D._ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not unheard of in ISOIAF for characters to be resurrected. Beric, Mel, Lady Stoneheart. It's possible, especially if he's one of the heads of the dragon from the prophecy. If that does happen, I'm sure GRRM will do it better than D&D.

    • @TheKeyser94
      @TheKeyser94 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_S.D._ Yeah, but every of those characters resurrected either as corpse or lose part of themselves, as Beric put it, he always lose part of himself every-time that the Thoros resurrect him, no if he want to add the same out of character moments and plot holes and D&D, Melisandre is a Stannis loyalist to the day she dies, nothing would change her mind that Stannis is the Azor Ahai, there is also the tiny, little fact that she doesn't known how to bring back people, Thoros didn't teach her, and she had no loyalty whatsoever to Jon Snow, Jon Snow by the end of the day was the bastard son of Ned Stark and die, like his brother Robb making the same mistakes, no one speak of that stupid fan theory anymore, and that is for the best, anyone put Jon Snow in a pedestal, and I glad that Old George bring him down, even that he use him to promote Games of Thrones, shamelessly. The best that you can hope is that Jon Snow become a Warg.

  • @sylvainmarc2638
    @sylvainmarc2638 ปีที่แล้ว

    GRRM / THE GRIM

  • @CxerRy96
    @CxerRy96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Political Sawant Joffrey lmaoo

  • @jaydee9759
    @jaydee9759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They did to the January 6th people. the same thing they fid on game of thrones for the black dinner. Open the doors and let them in. Once inside they closed the doors on them and attacked them. It was a well planned out ambush.