EXACLY!!!! Was rewatching this film last night and noticed it right away. I was thinking if it was Jake's, but I'd never seen him do that in any other film. It became kinda unsetling and contagious after a while. The man never plays a relaxed character, does he?
The only thing I think you got wrong was about Loki's 'breaking in' to the priests house. The situation would technically be justified, because he believed at the point of breaching that the priest's live was in danger.
@@Suchanda_C he had heard screams comina from inside. The only times I think he breaks in without justification are when he finds the sock at Keller’s house and at the end when he goes to Holly’s house to let her know they found Alex. He calls her name a few times, she doesn’t answer so he just lets himself in lol
He was talking every registered OFFENDER in the area. The priest has a history, and Loki's trying to find missing kids... He technically has reasonable motive, if he's not answering the door: could be busy torturing the girls.
I love this movie, i like it how the weather is gray and rainy which gives the context of the choices the few characters make in which Keller and Loki make.
Thanks Tyler! And I'm right there with ya, I've seen all of his feature length films, and they are all great, there are so many subtleties he adds to his movies that separates him from most filmmakers.
you could connect Loki's troubled past as you talked about in the scene where he finds the dead man in the basement. he says that he was an orphan to the priest.
I definitely agree Loki is meant to show someone who has risen above trauma, and I don't even think it's just "speculation". it seems clear within the text of the film that Loki was molested by a member of the clergy during his time in the Catholic orphanage, he says to the priest that he'd love to hurt him, probably as revenge, and calls him a "chickenhawk", a term for an old man who sexually preys on young men, which seems to be pretty clearly projection. The fact that his trauma would come from the church itself seems extremely fitting, a reversal of "the war we wage on God" and an echo of Keller, who begins as a devout Christian and becomes a violent torturer, a source of the very same trauma to a man who is functionally a child.
I agree that there is certain moral ambiguity in the film, however it arises because both Dover and Loki reach the children. Although Dover doesn't succeed and is caught by Mrs. Jones he proved that Alex did know more than he let on. Dover was right in a sense, but wrong in another because Alex isn't the kidnapper but he knew who was. What makes this film so great is that everyone is both wrong and right, both morally upright but also questionable. This is how humans are: a moral grey. What makes this film amazing however is that it's a question hidden within the genre, something to think about and seriously challenge your own morals with. Great job overall.
Alex never really knew because he was not mentally there. He was torturing a person who could barely comprehend what was happening so I assume he didn’t know.
@@Zaz5y Did you not hear what he said to him in the parking lot? He DID know, and it's very likely that he was the one to deliver the kids to Mrs. Jones. Frankly, he deserved all the torture he received. Maybe he was a victim too and that's why he became so fucked, but that doesn't mean you aren't responsible for what you do. That is a dangerous way of thinking. Most scumbags on this planet were probably made that way from some trauma from their past, but it doesn't change the fact that they're scumbags.
@@Dalvory No, being a scumbag and suffering psychosis is completely different. I agree that he should be locked away but in a mental institution. The parking lot scene could easily just be the old lady telling him to say that to bait the entire family to the maze. And to be clear, he's not a victim. But that doesn't mean he could even physically give Keller any information.
@@Zaz5y Suffering psychosis can result in a scumbag. That's my point. And no matter how somebody becomes a scumbag, they are still indeed a scumbag. And it's of my belief that seeking revenge against said scumbag isn't just understandable, but morally just. And while he may have the brain of a snot nosed 10 year old, he's clearly smart enough to have his own drivers license. And we even saw in the parking lot how he sort of provoked Kellar. He's dumb, but not dumb enough that he's incapable of forming basic words.
I don't think Keller's actions was all for nothing, since all his choices and actions coincided with Loki's path in the investigation which ultimately got Keller's daughter rescued.
@@dabeveryday9991 Innocent!? No. Alex knew where the girls were and had a part to play in their disappearance! Edit: Oh and don't give me some tired speech about his disability. If he's functioning enough to obtain a legal drivers' licence, he can answer basic questions.
@@dabeveryday9991 Yes, that’s that’s what we eventually find out. But Keller didn’t know that. He was trying to find his daughter, he had reasons to believe that Alex was directly responsible and police weren’t taking his claims seriously. So he took matters into his own hands.
@@cHeStEr5434 he wasn't trying to figure out where she was, he was taking his anger out because he is a failure of a man and a father, he deserved to be left in that hole
Another thing linking Keller Dover to Jesus Christ is the fact that his initials KD, are the two letters that succeed JC This is not proof positive, mind you, but this has always made me feel (along with parts of your analysis) that Keller was some sort of neo-version of Jesus. Once again, well done!
I think this is a very gripping movie while also being interesting on a psychological level. We are able to see how different people respond to tragedy and how their relationships between them affected them during the hunt for the two missing girls. The mother began blaming him for not taking care of the family which was also part of the reason why he felt even more compelled to take that extra step to find his daughter.
One of my favourite parts of the film is the scene when Dover is praying and it is the our Father and he just can't get the "And forgive those who trespass against us " out of him because it conflicts with the fact that he cannot bring himself to forgive Alex Jones. Keller knows he is going against his religous morals and it shows the conflict within him
Very insightful analysis. You are pointing out many things I hadn't thought of before. I agree with the comment that states that some plot twists are obvious and some elements are contrived. Its heritage from the typical 'serial killer movie' is still clearly visible. Yet I think it all holds together well and works on many levels. Fantastic job on the analysis!
XDD he broke into the priest's house because he saw him lying on the floor through the window, you have no time to hesitate in this case, he could have a heart attack and die unless you do something. i thought that's obvious for everyone
Its hard to compare even through they have the same goal. One is a detective, at work. One is a loving father after his daughter. This is my favorite movie. Literally. I love it. I can't even call other movies "Movies."
When Loki confronts the Father (who is apparently a sex offender) about the body he finds he says "I spent six years in the Huntington Boys’ Home, father, hurting a fuck like you would be a real treat for me!". Maybe this gives us a clue about his troubled youth.
It definitely does, at the same time, it doesn't go into much further detail than that, we don't know if he experienced any trauma or just saw it first hand, either is a possibility, but it does provide insight into his character! I'm glad you enjoyed!
Several things wrong here... Ana would NOT have been found if not for Keller’s actions! It is his interrogation of Alex that leads him to go to the aunt int the first place, for Loki to go there in the end, and his recent visit which caused the aunt to be dealing with Anna when Loki gets there. Remove Keller, and Alex is at home doing the same old thing, and no one investigates further. Also, breaking into the priest’s house was not illegal, as he saw him on the floor possibly dead or injured.
I think the morality, the cinematography, the acting and the directing are all top notch. my problem though, is that there are a lot of obvious plot twists and contrived elements to the story that hold it back from being more than good in my eyes. I do think the director has improved since with Enemy and the masterpiece Sicario
Obvious plot twist? I was on the edge of my mind and soul the entire 3 hours. Nothing about this was obvious and even the ending us up to our own imagination/interpretation. 100% amazing movie. Make something better and I will agree with your comment.
Something bad did happen to Loki. He tells the priest he spent 6 years (I think) in a boys home and it would be a pleasure beating the priest. Furthermore, he did want to detain Jones for another day but his superior didn't allow it. So the speculation you made following that: "He draws the line where human rights are concerned" isn't justified, imo.
I think a good slant on this movie would be to discuss the relationship to food each character has. Lokis first intro is with fortune cookies and obviously the movie starts with the hunting of a dear which is later consumed when the girls go missing. I think it may lead to interpretations on provision and who really is the 'provider' in the movie. Anyone else see something similar?
@@leemcmullan Yea, I don't know what movies compare to this one, but I love Denis Villeneuve, so Prisoners, Blade Runner 2049, and Arrival are all some of my favourites. Some other of my favourites are Good Will Hunting, Before Sunrise, Baby Driver, In Bruges, The Social Network, La La Land, Inglorious Bastards, Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse, Parasite, Nightcrawler, and Nocturnal Animals. What are some of your favourites?
@@BrennanJ96 AWESOME! i dont know why i didnt like baby driver.. I wish i liked action more. I need a crazy realistic plot with lots of suspense.. I like shawshank redemption, prisoners, the count of monte cristo.. thats all I can think of.. Im going to watch la la land, nightcrawler, and before sunrise because of YOU! Thank you!
he wasn't protecting them, he had already failed and wanted to torture anyone that he could to take his own anger and guilt out on someone else, torturing and keeping Alex prisoner, just like Mrs Jones did to his daughter
I haven't seen it in a little over a year, but as I recall, it lacked subtext. It did a great job building atmosphere, and creating suspense, but it didn't seem to add up to anything. It had a narrative that was complex and needed some explaining, but once you cracked that surface level, it seemed hollow inside. I don't want to say anything negative about Villeneuve, but it seems like he was trying to make a Lynch or Bergman movie, but fell short. By no means do I hate the movie, numerically I would rate it a 6 or 7/10, but I feel like there isn't much to discuss. You can break down the surface level (which has been done already) but once you understand the focus of the movie, there isn't much more to it.
To add more, I'd say it's a good thing and very intentional that most things about loki are mysterious. We mainly know he's great at his job. Most characters show moral ambiguity. Joys parents do when they involve themselves in what kellers doing then let him continue it. While he obviously won't go as far as Keller, he isn't above threatening criminal's or suspects to get what he wants. Or hurting/roughing them up. The priest does as while he's a registered sex offender, he'll kill a child killer
Got to disagree with you on Keller kidnapping Alex was for nothing or pointless, if he hadn’t then Loki wouldn’t have gone over to Holly Jones home and discover she and the stiff in the priests cellar are the perps and wouldn’t have saved Anna. So basically Keller makes the ultimate sacrifice for Anna in kidnapping Alex, it got her rescued. Also Loki, among being a fascinating character, always seems to show up right after Keller prays to God, this I don’t think is to imply he’s an actual god, but rather being used by God to answer Keller Dover’s prayers.
I don't get why critics have to make the silly comparison between Loki and Keller other than the fact that they are two main players of the movie, looking for the daughter. You can't expect Keller to act "broadminded" when it is his daughter who is taken, and praise Loki for being "broadminded" when he is not as emotionally involved. Keller's obsession with Alex is logical, all things said and done, considering what Alex said in the parking lot. It was almost like a taunt. And if you delve deeper into Alex' psychology, you can see he was trained not to say much of his "aunt's" doings. He knew she had taken the girls, and yet he didn't say anything, choosing to give Keller breadcrumbs instead of the whole truth. Why not tell the whole truth and save yourself the beating? Say "My aunt Holly took your daughter." And "He will spend the rest of his life behind bars" ... LOL ... what are you smoking? Aggravated assault and kidnapping, considering all the other circumstances, isn't going to give Keller life imprisonment. I think 5-12 years is a reasonable sentence. What makes you so sure anyway?
He says that he was at a catholic boy’s home for six years which is the biggest insight we have into his past. Also it’s really subtle, but Keller says to Loki before Alex is released, “whatever little rule you have to break has to be worth the lives of two little girls right?” Or something to that effect.
Would the father really have gotten life in prison? Would be kidnaping, false imprisonment and torture... but he knew he had something to do with it.... and thinking about the film, had he not taken the specific steps he took, his daughter would have never been found, because Loki would have never known to look at the property, thus he would have never visited the house to find the girl. So the father was 100% responsible for finding his daughter, although slightly indirectly, even though he figured it out at the end.
A very good analysis. So often today film reviews are nothing but the equivalent of a Cliffsnotes which is nothing but a string of spoilers not analysis. We’ll done!
Have you seen the film Incendies? If not I highly recommend it. It was the first film by Denis Villenueve that I ever saw and it's absolutely bonkers. Check it out if possible.
There's no need to call your speculation that Loki had a troubled childhood a theory. When he is interrogating the Priest after discovering the body in his basement, Loki says, "I spent six years in the Huntington Boys’ Home, father, now you know the Huntington Boys' Home, huh? Hurting a fuck like you would be a real treat for me..." Combining that threat with the fact that Loki was visiting the Priest because he was on a sex offender list strongly suggests that Loki was abused as a child for a long period of time at this Boys' home.
Loki had a bad past. It’s not a theory. He said at the priests house he knew first hand what he did to boys at the orphanage i.e. he grew up without a family and was sexually assaulted as a child. It’s not a theory he had a troubled past he 1,000% did
I know Alex is a good guy with the IQ of a 10 year old.Bob is not a horrible man either.He gently pets Alex' hair,but he shakes Bob so hard and yells at him over and over again & slammed his nose into the table, mostly because Taylor's never told Loki that he was drawing a Maze even once? That does not make any sense at all to me.:-O:-(>:-(
I kinda disagree , the father is fighter , a self made man , a guy who doesn't expect the the problems to be solved by themselves , he feels an unimaginable pain for his daughter , he blames himself , and his wife and another son blames him too . And the challenged guy is giving him evidences that he knows , that he toke his daughter so he knows where the child is , and he sees how everybody isn't doing anything about it and as a father, as a man he feels the need to do something , to save his daughter, the challenged guy is the only clue that he has and he will do anything for his daughter. The cop can't push the guy anymore because the law , and because he can't find him anymore, so he goes to check the pederasts and he is lucky , one has the knowledge of wath to do , where to look and the power of the law behind him , but without it he will just do what the father do . I admire both of them and I admire the father because he has balls to do what he is doing knowing that he will pay for that but he is willing to sacrifice himself for his daughter, his only mistake was at the end , wen he goes to the house and doesn't grab that bitch by the pussy as soon as he seen her.
"He will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars" I was actually wondering what sentence he would get considering he is a white, faithful+patriotic family man, I imagined he'd get 5 years tops with a good lawer. I don't actually know anything about American laws or anything so this is really a genuine wonderment
I gave a thumbs down. Loki nearly explicitly said in the movie that he was sexually molested as a little boy by a priest, but you kept saying that Loki having a troubled past as a kid is something you are merely speculating. I thought you were joking at first, but I guess not. Beyond stupid
Heisenberg Brokker Honestly, I never thought of that, very possibly, it's a great concept, and I'll have to rewatch it before I can give a definitive answer. But great thought!
trouble understanding things. possibly a nervous habit such as nail biting finger tapping etc. also the blinking and tattoos were an aspect that gyllenhaal added himself because he wanted the character to have more depth
I think due to constant pressure that he puts on himself because of the nature of his job and his personality. I believe he did solve every case that he was put on because when bob kills himself and he was sitting in his officer's room and gazing at that maze drawing then his officer said 'Alright boy u didn't get this one' meaning he successfully solved every previous case.
Gyllenhaal's eye twitches are brilliant.
He is one of the best actors working today!
Marshall Zane yeees, his ticks were so interesting lol
EXACLY!!!! Was rewatching this film last night and noticed it right away. I was thinking if it was Jake's, but I'd never seen him do that in any other film. It became kinda unsetling and contagious after a while. The man never plays a relaxed character, does he?
I think the ticks add weight to what was covered that something traumatic happened to his character in the past
Twitches because he's overthinking.
The only thing I think you got wrong was about Loki's 'breaking in' to the priests house. The situation would technically be justified, because he believed at the point of breaching that the priest's live was in danger.
I literally cam to the comments section to write this 😬 He did break into Dover's father house though... Not sure if that is within the law
@@Suchanda_C he had heard screams comina from inside. The only times I think he breaks in without justification are when he finds the sock at Keller’s house and at the end when he goes to Holly’s house to let her know they found Alex. He calls her name a few times, she doesn’t answer so he just lets himself in lol
He was talking every registered OFFENDER in the area. The priest has a history, and Loki's trying to find missing kids... He technically has reasonable motive, if he's not answering the door: could be busy torturing the girls.
No movie has ever left me so overwhelmed at the end as much as this movie. One of my favorites.
Bold statement, and I agree. Let me know if you find any other movies anywhere close to as good as Prisoners.
Lee McMullan shining
@@leemcmullan A movie that made me feel like this along with Prisoners is Se7en.
@@Zaz5y I will watch it this weekend. I cant wait! Thank you!!
@@leemcmullan Cool. Let me know what you think about it.
I love this movie, i like it how the weather is gray and rainy which gives the context of the choices the few characters make in which Keller and Loki make.
Impressive analysis. I have so much hope for Villeneuve. His last three films have all been spectacular.
Thanks Tyler! And I'm right there with ya, I've seen all of his feature length films, and they are all great, there are so many subtleties he adds to his movies that separates him from most filmmakers.
Tyler Lynch Every single movie of Villeneuve are film masterpieces. The closest to a modern Kubrick we'll ever got.
@@santiagomelendez4615 If Dune and the next film he makes follows this trend, I would probably have to say he’s even better.
5 years later, how do you feel about him?
you could connect Loki's troubled past as you talked about in the scene where he finds the dead man in the basement. he says that he was an orphan to the priest.
I definitely agree Loki is meant to show someone who has risen above trauma, and I don't even think it's just "speculation". it seems clear within the text of the film that Loki was molested by a member of the clergy during his time in the Catholic orphanage, he says to the priest that he'd love to hurt him, probably as revenge, and calls him a "chickenhawk", a term for an old man who sexually preys on young men, which seems to be pretty clearly projection. The fact that his trauma would come from the church itself seems extremely fitting, a reversal of "the war we wage on God" and an echo of Keller, who begins as a devout Christian and becomes a violent torturer, a source of the very same trauma to a man who is functionally a child.
Jake is a ridiculously underrated actor
I agree that there is certain moral ambiguity in the film, however it arises because both Dover and Loki reach the children. Although Dover doesn't succeed and is caught by Mrs. Jones he proved that Alex did know more than he let on. Dover was right in a sense, but wrong in another because Alex isn't the kidnapper but he knew who was. What makes this film so great is that everyone is both wrong and right, both morally upright but also questionable. This is how humans are: a moral grey. What makes this film amazing however is that it's a question hidden within the genre, something to think about and seriously challenge your own morals with. Great job overall.
Alex never really knew because he was not mentally there. He was torturing a person who could barely comprehend what was happening so I assume he didn’t know.
Good break down! Dover is the real hero. He pushed everything along. If he sat back and prayed both the kids would be dead.
@@Zaz5y Did you not hear what he said to him in the parking lot? He DID know, and it's very likely that he was the one to deliver the kids to Mrs. Jones. Frankly, he deserved all the torture he received. Maybe he was a victim too and that's why he became so fucked, but that doesn't mean you aren't responsible for what you do. That is a dangerous way of thinking. Most scumbags on this planet were probably made that way from some trauma from their past, but it doesn't change the fact that they're scumbags.
@@Dalvory No, being a scumbag and suffering psychosis is completely different. I agree that he should be locked away but in a mental institution. The parking lot scene could easily just be the old lady telling him to say that to bait the entire family to the maze. And to be clear, he's not a victim. But that doesn't mean he could even physically give Keller any information.
@@Zaz5y Suffering psychosis can result in a scumbag. That's my point. And no matter how somebody becomes a scumbag, they are still indeed a scumbag. And it's of my belief that seeking revenge against said scumbag isn't just understandable, but morally just.
And while he may have the brain of a snot nosed 10 year old, he's clearly smart enough to have his own drivers license. And we even saw in the parking lot how he sort of provoked Kellar. He's dumb, but not dumb enough that he's incapable of forming basic words.
I don't think Keller's actions was all for nothing, since all his choices and actions coincided with Loki's path in the investigation which ultimately got Keller's daughter rescued.
no, he is a weak man and his kidnapping and torturing of an innocent are disgusting
@@dabeveryday9991 Innocent!? No. Alex knew where the girls were and had a part to play in their disappearance!
Edit: Oh and don't give me some tired speech about his disability. If he's functioning enough to obtain a legal drivers' licence, he can answer basic questions.
@@cHeStEr5434 he's a victim too, had been manipulated and institutionalised into where was was being held
@@dabeveryday9991 Yes, that’s that’s what we eventually find out.
But Keller didn’t know that. He was trying to find his daughter, he had reasons to believe that Alex was directly responsible and police weren’t taking his claims seriously. So he took matters into his own hands.
@@cHeStEr5434 he wasn't trying to figure out where she was, he was taking his anger out because he is a failure of a man and a father, he deserved to be left in that hole
Good job man, love this film!
Thanks Darren, I'm a big fan of your work, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Another thing linking Keller Dover to Jesus Christ is the fact that his initials KD, are the two letters that succeed JC
This is not proof positive, mind you, but this has always made me feel (along with parts of your analysis) that Keller was some sort of neo-version of Jesus.
Once again, well done!
I think this is a very gripping movie while also being interesting on a psychological level. We are able to see how different people respond to tragedy and how their relationships between them affected them during the hunt for the two missing girls. The mother began blaming him for not taking care of the family which was also part of the reason why he felt even more compelled to take that extra step to find his daughter.
One of my favourite parts of the film is the scene when Dover is praying and it is the our Father and he just can't get the "And forgive those who trespass against us " out of him because it conflicts with the fact that he cannot bring himself to forgive Alex Jones. Keller knows he is going against his religous morals and it shows the conflict within him
The old lady said she would've killed the girls sooner if Alex wasn't kidnapped because it would've been lonely
Very insightful analysis. You are pointing out many things I hadn't thought of before. I agree with the comment that states that some plot twists are obvious and some elements are contrived. Its heritage from the typical 'serial killer movie' is still clearly visible. Yet I think it all holds together well and works on many levels. Fantastic job on the analysis!
I agree, it goes beyond exploring the traditional views of a serial killer movie, and looks at different angles that aren't looked at as often.
XDD he broke into the priest's house because he saw him lying on the floor through the window, you have no time to hesitate in this case, he could have a heart attack and die unless you do something. i thought that's obvious for everyone
Same
I believe the question is why he was at that priests house in the first place?
@@agustinpereira3128 He was questioning known sex offenders near Fairmont Circle. Presumably the priest was one.
@@cliffanlover My presumption as well, but for a movie so well explained it did seem a glaring omission
This movie was amazing storytelling
Hugh jackman was actually terrifying In this movie, I would not want to cross that man.
Its hard to compare even through they have the same goal. One is a detective, at work. One is a loving father after his daughter. This is my favorite movie. Literally. I love it. I can't even call other movies "Movies."
When Loki confronts the Father (who is apparently a sex offender) about the body he finds he says "I spent six years in the
Huntington Boys’ Home, father, hurting a fuck like you would be a
real treat for me!". Maybe this gives us a clue about his troubled youth.
Great video!
It definitely does, at the same time, it doesn't go into much further detail than that, we don't know if he experienced any trauma or just saw it first hand, either is a possibility, but it does provide insight into his character!
I'm glad you enjoyed!
Several things wrong here... Ana would NOT have been found if not for Keller’s actions! It is his interrogation of Alex that leads him to go to the aunt int the first place, for Loki to go there in the end, and his recent visit which caused the aunt to be dealing with Anna when Loki gets there. Remove Keller, and Alex is at home doing the same old thing, and no one investigates further. Also, breaking into the priest’s house was not illegal, as he saw him on the floor possibly dead or injured.
100% true hero is Keller 100%
@@leemcmullan idiot no doubt you support the tortures by the US government in CIA blacksites
The director is very good he deserves his success with Dune and Bladerunner.
A fascinating topic that I em exploring in my next book. thanks for letting me know about this movie that I missed. will watch it asap!
Did you watch it? Its 2 and a half hours of suspense.
I think the morality, the cinematography, the acting and the directing are all top notch. my problem though, is that there are a lot of obvious plot twists and contrived elements to the story that hold it back from being more than good in my eyes. I do think the director has improved since with Enemy and the masterpiece Sicario
Undeniably it is a flawed movie, but it does offer a really great discussion of morality!
Contrived? Like what?
All movies are contrived, FYI. Saying "contrived" in that way just makes you sound like some pretentious critic.
@AJ they never answer because they offer nothing of worth to be said
Obvious plot twist? I was on the edge of my mind and soul the entire 3 hours. Nothing about this was obvious and even the ending us up to our own imagination/interpretation. 100% amazing movie. Make something better and I will agree with your comment.
Something bad did happen to Loki. He tells the priest he spent 6 years (I think) in a boys home and it would be a pleasure beating the priest.
Furthermore, he did want to detain Jones for another day but his superior didn't allow it. So the speculation you made following that: "He draws the line where human rights are concerned" isn't justified, imo.
I think a good slant on this movie would be to discuss the relationship to food each character has. Lokis first intro is with fortune cookies and obviously the movie starts with the hunting of a dear which is later consumed when the girls go missing. I think it may lead to interpretations on provision and who really is the 'provider' in the movie. Anyone else see something similar?
This is Loki the best Villeneuve film ever!
This movie is fantastic
nooo its absolutely fantastic lol
@@leemcmullan It is one of my favourites!
@@BrennanJ96 whats another favorite if you don't mind me asking? Not a lot of movies compare to this one.
@@leemcmullan Yea, I don't know what movies compare to this one, but I love Denis Villeneuve, so Prisoners, Blade Runner 2049, and Arrival are all some of my favourites. Some other of my favourites are Good Will Hunting, Before Sunrise, Baby Driver, In Bruges, The Social Network, La La Land, Inglorious Bastards, Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse, Parasite, Nightcrawler, and Nocturnal Animals.
What are some of your favourites?
@@BrennanJ96 AWESOME! i dont know why i didnt like baby driver.. I wish i liked action more. I need a crazy realistic plot with lots of suspense.. I like shawshank redemption, prisoners, the count of monte cristo.. thats all I can think of.. Im going to watch la la land, nightcrawler, and before sunrise because of YOU! Thank you!
this movie kinda reminds me of heavy rain
The film explicitly states that Loki has a troubled past. He references it to the priest.
"Been prepared for situations". Good lesson for 2020.
Loki's moral system is displayed on his ring
I don’t think we can say that Alex was a dead end. Alex knew all along where the kids were.
I really got to wonder if I would go as far as Hugh Jackman did to protect my family.
he wasn't protecting them, he had already failed and wanted to torture anyone that he could to take his own anger and guilt out on someone else, torturing and keeping Alex prisoner, just like Mrs Jones did to his daughter
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I forgot I posted this comment.
@@civilwarfare101 okay?
@@dabeveryday9991
You must have a lot of time on your hand if you are replying to a year old comment that no one thumbed up
@@civilwarfare101 i was reading comments while listening bro
Excellent analysis; I think it said that Loki was an orphan but don't quote me on it. Great film and fantastic job buddy!!
Thanks Kyle! We have both been early on one another's videos lately
Do Enemy.
We'll see, I'm not the biggest fan of the movie and I have been talking about a lot of Villeneuve's films as of late.
could you elaborate on why you don't like it.
I haven't seen it in a little over a year, but as I recall, it lacked subtext. It did a great job building atmosphere, and creating suspense, but it didn't seem to add up to anything. It had a narrative that was complex and needed some explaining, but once you cracked that surface level, it seemed hollow inside. I don't want to say anything negative about Villeneuve, but it seems like he was trying to make a Lynch or Bergman movie, but fell short. By no means do I hate the movie, numerically I would rate it a 6 or 7/10, but I feel like there isn't much to discuss. You can break down the surface level (which has been done already) but once you understand the focus of the movie, there isn't much more to it.
To add more, I'd say it's a good thing and very intentional that most things about loki are mysterious. We mainly know he's great at his job. Most characters show moral ambiguity. Joys parents do when they involve themselves in what kellers doing then let him continue it. While he obviously won't go as far as Keller, he isn't above threatening criminal's or suspects to get what he wants. Or hurting/roughing them up. The priest does as while he's a registered sex offender, he'll kill a child killer
Got to disagree with you on Keller kidnapping Alex was for nothing or pointless, if he hadn’t then Loki wouldn’t have gone over to Holly Jones home and discover she and the stiff in the priests cellar are the perps and wouldn’t have saved Anna. So basically Keller makes the ultimate sacrifice for Anna in kidnapping Alex, it got her rescued. Also Loki, among being a fascinating character, always seems to show up right after Keller prays to God, this I don’t think is to imply he’s an actual god, but rather being used by God to answer Keller Dover’s prayers.
Also Dover was right, Alex, or Barry, did in fact know the whereabouts of his and the Birch’s daughter.
great man thanks for the link
+Jawahar Prasaanth thank you!
I don't get why critics have to make the silly comparison between Loki and Keller other than the fact that they are two main players of the movie, looking for the daughter.
You can't expect Keller to act "broadminded" when it is his daughter who is taken, and praise Loki for being "broadminded" when he is not as emotionally involved. Keller's obsession with Alex is logical, all things said and done, considering what Alex said in the parking lot. It was almost like a taunt. And if you delve deeper into Alex' psychology, you can see he was trained not to say much of his "aunt's" doings. He knew she had taken the girls, and yet he didn't say anything, choosing to give Keller breadcrumbs instead of the whole truth. Why not tell the whole truth and save yourself the beating? Say "My aunt Holly took your daughter."
And "He will spend the rest of his life behind bars" ... LOL ... what are you smoking?
Aggravated assault and kidnapping, considering all the other circumstances, isn't going to give Keller life imprisonment. I think 5-12 years is a reasonable sentence.
What makes you so sure anyway?
Caleb Pereira calm down buddy
you are spot on100%
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I'm calm. Took me just 5 minutes to express indignation at that dumb angle of analysis, but I was pretty chill in the year since.
I came into the comments to post exactly this, but you bet me to it. Cheers man! :)
@@leemcmullan he deserves life in prison
2:30 - the rest of his life in prison? I don't think so. He'd certainly be going down for a considerable amount of time, but life without parole? Nah.
He says that he was at a catholic boy’s home for six years which is the biggest insight we have into his past.
Also it’s really subtle, but Keller says to Loki before Alex is released, “whatever little rule you have to break has to be worth the lives of two little girls right?” Or something to that effect.
Incredible analysis!
Would the father really have gotten life in prison? Would be kidnaping, false imprisonment and torture... but he knew he had something to do with it.... and thinking about the film, had he not taken the specific steps he took, his daughter would have never been found, because Loki would have never known to look at the property, thus he would have never visited the house to find the girl. So the father was 100% responsible for finding his daughter, although slightly indirectly, even though he figured it out at the end.
I doubt he'd get life. I think if he faced jailtime, he'd receive a reduced sentence giving the circumstances.
Detective Loki franchise please.
A very good analysis. So often today film reviews are nothing but the equivalent of a Cliffsnotes which is nothing but a string of spoilers not analysis. We’ll done!
What if the swinging cross was because of the road? 0_e
A cross hanging from a rear view mirror wouldn't do that TBH. Physics. It would simply shake up and down, not swing. It's a symbolic revelation.
"Keller" sometimes sounds like "Killer".
Reminds me of mother and I saw the devil
THE THING ABOUT THE CROSS SWINGING IS SUCHH A STRETCH DUDE.
I would do the same i would go into every single House and check it if i lose my Child..
amazing video,good review
Do one about Adam Sandler's Click.
It's a really great film. And there's an important lesson to be learned to always value your family more than work.
Have you seen the film Incendies? If not I highly recommend it. It was the first film by Denis Villenueve that I ever saw and it's absolutely bonkers. Check it out if possible.
I thought it was so weird.
great analysis. can you do one of the movie youth? its a great movie and it will be great to see an analysis of you
I don't have any plans to do one in the future, but I'm certainly not opposed to doing one!
There's no need to call your speculation that Loki had a troubled childhood a theory. When he is interrogating the Priest after discovering the body in his basement, Loki says, "I spent six years in the Huntington Boys’ Home, father, now you know the Huntington Boys' Home, huh? Hurting a fuck like you would be a real treat for me..."
Combining that threat with the fact that Loki was visiting the Priest because he was on a sex offender list strongly suggests that Loki was abused as a child for a long period of time at this Boys' home.
What would you do to save your child?
Loki had a bad past. It’s not a theory. He said at the priests house he knew first hand what he did to boys at the orphanage i.e. he grew up without a family and was sexually assaulted as a child. It’s not a theory he had a troubled past he 1,000% did
I can't rent Prisoners this year.I already bought Anesthesia.I'll rent Prisoners next year.
As I understand it, the 4th amendment doesn't apply to convicted sex offenders. They can be searched at any time.
I know Alex is a good guy with the IQ of a 10 year old.Bob is not a horrible man either.He gently pets Alex' hair,but he shakes Bob so hard and yells at him over and over again & slammed his nose into the table, mostly because Taylor's never told Loki that he was drawing a Maze even once? That does not make any sense at all to me.:-O:-(>:-(
This is an excellent film. But wow, it needs to be cut by an hour.
No, it doesn't.
cut your comment. Needs to be extended 1 more hour. Breathtaking movie! Nothing compares.
@@leemcmullan I bet you thought this year's Oscars were watchable too.
@@0the0ambient0 im a workaholic and rarely watch tv.. i missed out.
Hugh Jackmans character infuriated me so much
why was he too loving and passionate for you?
just wait til you have kids
@@leemcmullan Lee the torture lover pipes up again,
Good thing I don't have children
I kinda disagree , the father is fighter , a self made man , a guy who doesn't expect the the problems to be solved by themselves , he feels an unimaginable pain for his daughter , he blames himself , and his wife and another son blames him too .
And the challenged guy is giving him evidences that he knows , that he toke his daughter so he knows where the child is , and he sees how everybody isn't doing anything about it and as a father, as a man he feels the need to do something , to save his daughter, the challenged guy is the only clue that he has and he will do anything for his daughter.
The cop can't push the guy anymore because the law , and because he can't find him anymore, so he goes to check the pederasts and he is lucky , one has the knowledge of wath to do , where to look and the power of the law behind him , but without it he will just do what the father do .
I admire both of them and I admire the father because he has balls to do what he is doing knowing that he will pay for that but he is willing to sacrifice himself for his daughter, his only mistake was at the end , wen he goes to the house and doesn't grab that bitch by the pussy as soon as he seen her.
you disgust me
"He will likely spend the rest of his life behind bars" I was actually wondering what sentence he would get considering he is a white, faithful+patriotic family man, I imagined he'd get 5 years tops with a good lawer. I don't actually know anything about American laws or anything so this is really a genuine wonderment
I gave a thumbs down. Loki nearly explicitly said in the movie that he was sexually molested as a little boy by a priest, but you kept saying that Loki having a troubled past as a kid is something you are merely speculating. I thought you were joking at first, but I guess not. Beyond stupid
dude, dont put brown letters on a mostly black colored screen
But Why does he blink so much?
I think it has to do with his character's flawed past.
+Jacks Movie Reviews Do you think he might uses drugs to always function?
Heisenberg Brokker
Honestly, I never thought of that, very possibly, it's a great concept, and I'll have to rewatch it before I can give a definitive answer. But great thought!
trouble understanding things. possibly a nervous habit such as nail biting finger tapping etc. also the blinking and tattoos were an aspect that gyllenhaal added himself because he wanted the character to have more depth
I think due to constant pressure that he puts on himself because of the nature of his job and his personality. I believe he did solve every case that he was put on because when bob kills himself and he was sitting in his officer's room and gazing at that maze drawing then his officer said 'Alright boy u didn't get this one' meaning he successfully solved every previous case.