@@thesun564 He or she isn't wrong though. I dont think anyone deserved an oscar in this film, but the academy does tend to only award political sjw films. As a lefty myself it does get annoying. Political films should not decide the Oscar's but they do.
The fuck cares what they think? Whoever shoves the most money in the for your consideration has alot more say than actual artists that have no money but much more substance in their work
Did anyone mention that Alex had his RV parked in front of the home he was kidnapped from? He was probably looking for his family ...thats why he was near the girls homes.
The excessive blinking Loki does is also heavily associated with OCD and trauma, especially people who suffered trauma in childhood. It’s a kind of tick, a way to relieve anxiety and stress in a situation where such an expression of emotion would be inappropriate and/or a tick that manifest if the person struggles overall with experiencing and expressing negative emotions.
My friend Dante Rivera blinks like that. If you ever saw The Ultimate Fighter he was on that in season 7. He lost to Matt Riddle on the Finale show. He runs a jujitsu academy now, but when I was younger he taught me how to hit a speed bag and stuff. I always thought he just had eye problems, but you’re saying that’s usually a tick?
Tremendously insightful video, I’ve seen Prisoners twice and never picked up on Keller’s dads death. It’s so subtle and yet so integral to his story arch. I love this movie please do long breakdowns like this more often - thanks
Thanks man, yeah I love Prisoners too, such an amazing emotion story but also packed with meaning and deliberate film form choices. Yeah I'm planning on doing some longer break downs soon, so looking forward to sharing!
I only picked up on my third viewing. Basically the “crackhouse” as the Birch’s eldest daughter calls it was a site of tragic significance for Keller long before he used it as a site to ruthlessly torture and hurt Alex, a place of violence and pain for Keller. The look of abandonment and walls broken and rubbish scattered everywhere adds to the dark and sad nature of that place. Also sort of sad and ironic in keeping with the title of “Prisoners” in that his Dad was a guard at the prison which Keller most certainly ended up in for what he did to Alex (presuming he was found before he bled out at the end).
You said Alex doesn’t give Keller anything but the reason he goes to Alex’s aunt in the first place is because Alex whispers to him there in the maze. So Keller’s torture of Alex although cruel and not right was actually the reason his daughter was found. Aswell when he is found he will only serve a max of 10 years for his crimes. So in my opinion this is worth it.
There is certainly a theme of 'god works in mysterious ways' in the film. Keller has the dream about his daughter showing him the whistle. That could be seen as some sort of divine intervention. Another example is Loki catching a glimpse of the emergency ward just as he is about to pass out at the wheel. Yet another example is Loki receiving a phone call about a lead just as he is about to have Keller show him around Keller's Dad's old house (possibly finding Alex in doing so). I think it's the Rastafarians who say, 'Jah will provide'. The universe, god...whatever way you like to think of it, will provide the things you need just when you need them. That idea is certainly present in the film.
Great analysis. Thank you. I thought one of the most significant clues to Loki's delinquent (criminal?) past was in his appearance. It struck me as quite a deliberate costume choice to make his character appear is if he were in a prison yard; the movie stereotype prisoner with buttoned-up blue shirt, slicked-back hair, tattoos, woolly hat and even the matchstick between his teeth in a lot of the scenes. Loki is the only character that is prisoner throughout the entire film. A prisoner either of his own conscience for carrying around the meaningless (to him) praise of having always solved the case - which of course, does not necessarily mean that he has ever saved a child's life, only that he has brought the perpetrators to justice - or of the system he has to work within. Only in the final brilliant scene do we see that he may finally be able to reconcile (in every meaning of the word), which is the other main theme of the film.
The simplest way to interpret Loki's masonic ring is to think of it as symbolising his attachment to reasoned thinking. It sets up the differences between himself and Keller (his most obvious symbol being the cross). Funnily though, I don't see Loki as a member of any club! He is a classic movie misfit in many ways, I think that is why we relate to him so much.
Darren not many people like you.. You are an amazing man of commitment and have a great eye for symbolism and parallels!! Thank you for bringing this movie into a new light! I can't wait to rewatch it. -Your friend Logan
I've enjoyed listening & watching your commentary about parallels, family legacies, dynamics of Injustice deeply rooted in controversy and how it translates to film by great writers and the dynamics & subtlety of the music used. You've got a great eye & ear on all fronts. Are you a fan of any series as well? "The Prisoner" w/Patrick McGowan, 60's spy series comes to mind. Iconic opening & closing sequences. Saw your "Place Beyond the Pines" segment prior to this, if you follow, my mind wandering Cheers!
I had seen this film once before, and I think I was a bit too taken aback by the torture. However I watched it again tonight and appreciated it much more; the writing, performances, score, editing and cinematography are all fantastic! Afterwards wanted to know others' thought on it. Thanks you for your great analysis! p.s. I didn't realize how many from-behind-glass shots there were!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ This film has become one of my favourites, even though the subject matter is bleak and you can't help but vicariously feel the psychological torment of Keller, Loki and Alex. I mean it takes emotional energy to watch with any serious engagement. It was on TV tonight and I watched it, impressed again. I am always reminded of your review when I watch Prisoners. You highlight so many great details - subtle, overt, thematic, symbolic, artistic. It's honestly added to my enjoyment of the film. So thanks! :)
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Just watched Sicario, it has similar themes of dominance, control and law enforcement. I think a message of both movies is that the means (e.g. dominance) we try to resolve deep conflicts, sometimes plays into and perpetuates it.
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS I saw Sicario and thought it was good but wasn't great. the first 30 minutes were by far the best part of the film. The plot, to me, felt too simple and had an unwarranted revenge plot infused with it.
I have watched this movie so many times. It's so good and so underrated. I love loki subtle and very guarded personality but you can tell exactly really who he is. Also we need to remember how good Paul Dano was in this.
Darren, I absolutely love your film analysis. You get down to the smallest details and I am always anxious to watch these films again after watxhing your videos!
I stumbled upon this right after I saw the movie (few years back) and thought that it was an amazing video. Tried to find it again few months later but could not. I am very happy that I discovered your channel again. Instant subscribe.
Thanks! Its a personal favourite of mine too, haven't seen it in a while, probably due a re-watch soon! Always happy when this video can reach other fans of the film!
Dude! This is certainly your best analysis (or at least my favorite). Thanks a lot for your work and carry on! (and feel free to analyse more Denis Villeneuve movies, or maybe Richard Kelly's too). ;)
This is so remarkably thorough. Thank you so much for your meticulous attention to detail. If you have a Patreon, I would gladly support your work. Outstanding.
Hey man, thanks for the positive feedback. my wife and I just had a baby so haven't been sharing many video but I'm in the process of creating a return so pretty excited about that, should have some new videos soon. www.patreon.com/MUSTSEEFILMS
Great job as always! I've seen this movie 5 times and I NEVER realized the cross swinging away from Keller until you mentioned it; that blew my mind man. Did you see the Revenant? I saw it 2 days ago and thought it was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen!!
Thanks Ryan, I'm literally in the editing of a new video at the moment, been a long while since iv shared anything but gearing up for another run at things! Glad you hear you're enjoying them, Prisoners was one of my personal favourites.
Brilliant analysis, especially loved the bit about Odin and the symbolism of one eye. It could also link with the fact that "Loki," derives from the same Scandinavian myths as Odin, as Loki a trickster god and Odin's step brother
Yeah I love the idea of Loki as the trickers, as it plays into the audiences suspicions of him thought the film and also maybe touches at a troublesome past.
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Please make more of these, the analysis on the PTA films and Shame were the most insightful things to make me think as a filmmaker who wants to put deepness and meaning on my own movies. Thank you very much for all this great work, I sure hope to inspire people with my movies like you inspire me with your videos. Keep up the good work, Darren! You are one of the best!
+Pedro Buson Thanks Pedro! awesome to hear my videos are reaching other filmlovers and filmmakers out there! got some big plans for upcoming videos and looking forward to sharing them all soon!
I feel proud I discovered your channel before you blow up. Others have already stated but man..... Must See Films be getting their hands DIRTY with some details son!
Thanks Brent! It was easy to dig in with a film so detailed as Prisoners! Also thats for the continued support and sticking around for so long, but I am planning on created some new videos in the near future and try and get a run at this again!!
The ending... they purposely show us that Keller is a very resourceful survivor. He has a flashlight and is scavenging immediately after shut in the pit. We see sneakers sitting beside the whistle of his daughter's he finds. Loki is told flat out that the whistle is still missing and was found and lost again during their kidnapping. The sneakers mean Keller will quickly make a tourny for his leg wound. Loki was back on the scene the very next night and I find it odd that nobody would find his TRUCK still on Holly's property but Loki clearly hears the whistle at the end. EARLIER in the film when Loki first goes to see Holly, he is snooping around the pit/Trans Am when she comes out to stop him. (The girls ARE down there at this time, Holly even tells us this). Loki will hear the whistling and remember that pit and how Holly tried to stop him. He will also rescue Keller because he thinks Keller IS a "good man" at least in his own mind and never would've killed Alex.
Thanks man, Kellers character is the most interesting for me and the most hardbreaking because he doesn't get to see the victory at the end, but I feel like its just God testing him and have total faith that Loki finds him after the credits.
Hi Darren. Been following you for a while. Finally seen this movie tonight. This is probably your best analysis. First time scared me off the movie, but excited my curiosity. Tonight, I see your eye. Thanks. One of the best movies of this decade. Well worth your attention. Look forward to seeing more.
Thank you for this video. It is a very good analysis. I really like this movie, it always makes me wonder what I would do in a situation like this and I don't have an answer for that. Regards
Rewatching this again after all these years after rewatching the film. There’s so much in this film that it’s a bit difficult to really articulate in a comment, but this film is fantastic as is this analysis. The performances are fantastic, especially by Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal who gave Academy Award worthy performances, story is executed so well and it makes you think what would you do if your kids were missing. This is a film that I watch every so often and I remember seeing this in the theater when it came out and truly enjoying it. I can’t decide if I like this or Sicario better. I might like them both equally as they’re both so good, yet so different. Thank you for all you do Darren, take care!
I agree, its such an amazing film, I actually haven't rewatched it since I made this video, or since I now have a child. Iv been meaning to return to it recently. This one edges out Sicario for me, both are amazing, but something about my initial theatre experience of this film was so powerful.
your videos are underrated. not enough views considering the high quality. i really like how you highlight denis villeneuve's skill. i'm so pumped for blade runner 2049, not sure how i'm gonna be able to wait for it. looking forward to your Arrival analysis.
Darren, very well done. Just saw this movie for the first time a few days ago. Villeneuve has a golden touch. I've loved everything he's done so far. Can't wait for Blade Runner. One thing I noticed that I thought you would point out was when Keller is praying but he couldn't finish the prayer. The part of the prayer that he couldn't finish was the part that talks about asking God to forgive us as we forgive those who have trespassed against us. He's conflicted with saying that part cause he doesn't feel a shred of forgiveness toward his daughter's kidnapper and, in turn, fears that God will not forgive him for what he is doing. Great analysis video. I'm going to subscribe.
Thanks Tom, thats interesting I hadn't noticed that part, i noticed the gap but not being that familiar with the prayer i missed the relevance of the missed part. Cool, thats awesome to know. Villeneuve is so on the money in this film!!
@@hannes919 I think all the details are there to create the tone and feeling, so that the overall impact for an audience is powerful, like you said, favourite film, but if you wanted to dig a little deeper, there is alot making that happen. such an amazing film!
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Watch it soon as posible, it's my favorite Villeneuve film and i think it was the one that set the path for an extraordinary movie director.
Great analysis, you inspire me, thanks. I wonder what's your take on this- The scene when Loki arrives at the aunt's house. Editing makes it appear to me that she was aware that Loki was coming. Loki knocks on the door and she would have been able to hear it. (She's always prepared for these moments, like when Keller came and she was ready with her gun). Also Loki was able to hear her opening the girl's room. Do you think that she realized her run has taken its course at that point, or that she decided tace it head on by killing the girl and potentially killing Loki too?
Yeah thats what it seemed like to me, that she felt like it was over, and didn't want the police to win, so she'd kill the girl in order to have the final victory. But then Loki works his magic!
Darren, wicked stuff man. How long does this film analysis process take? Watching the film, trying to notice symbolism in it, etc? Also, any tips for someone who wants to start studying these things?
+Matthew Sudiyono some of my videos are shorter and can take a few days but the film analysis video take my a month or more, usually it involves watching the film a few times and taking notes on what i notice and my initial feeling towards the film, figuring out the message at the core of the films and what i believe its about and then digging into whatever else i can find on the film from external sources like interviews, blogs etc. Then ill draft a script and work out exactly how to structure and present the information, then ill record my audio from the script. Once i have the audio ill edit all the visuals to it. The editing and music etc is the film sprint finish and may take like a week for a video of this length but the research and prep part is 90% of the real work. As for how to start studying, i started with alot of film theory books, i have an old video here which goes through a bunch of books i used in the beginning, hope this is useful! th-cam.com/video/dgF6zTGCy-M/w-d-xo.html
My favorite part of the movie is when Keller is saying the Lord’s Prayer next to Alex and he can’t say the next line “as we forgive those who trespassed against us” this is when he realizes what he has done is wrong but he’s in too deep so he just keeps going for his daughter.
I don’t care what anyone says I don’t think Alex is totally innocent Ik in his head he wasn’t intending to abduct them but he was strong to overpower an old woman it shows he’s capable when he try’s to escape his captivity so I know for a fact he could have done something’s since he was a victim himself I know Keller isn’t innocent necessarily but I do believe he husky totally in the wrong for beating the shit out of Alex
Yeah the lines of right and wrong get totally blurred in this film, but for Keller Im sympathetic and understanding because the drivelling force to save his daughter is so raw and strong, I can imagine other people doing the same.
If you ever have a secret you don’t want anyone to know, but for some reason you have to tell someone, just tell Alex he will never tell anyone no matter what. 😂
+Benjamin Pham Yeah pretty interesting, i feel like the director was pulling from so many different sources and themes here, and greek mythology seems to be one of them.
Hi Darren! I really love your videos mate. I have a quick question. What is the name of the track you use on this video. (Not the film score, but the stock music you used once you started analyzing it.) Thanks so much!
I can't remove the name of it, as this is an old video which i reuploaded, but at this time i was using music from the youtube audio library, its got loads of good music, and you just search the genre or type you are looking for. hopefully you'll find something good there.
Great video, made me apprecate more the movie. But I don't understand the supposed redemption of Keller: he is redeemed because he blow the whistle...?
I haven't done a video on Enemy but I have done a podcast with all my thoughts digging into and trying to make sense of it here: itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/must-see-films/id1412066099
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ sir I am very sorry to say it's not opening...i have installed i tunes but all it in vain...sir I req you to make a video on this film...
+Husain Ahmadi Yeah this is re-edit of an old video that was taken down by youtube, i had trouble with copyright etc, so managed to work around it and i think it actually plays a little better now
Is this an old video? I thought enemy came out around the same time as prisoners and he recently came out with sicario (amazing)... Either way great video I new religion played a big part but the tiny details you uncovered where great!
+Jusef Conesa Yeah i had this video up a good while ago and it got taken down by youtube, so i tried to re-edit around the bits that were causing the copyright strike and uploaded it again because i still liked this video and wanted to have it on the channel after all the work i did for it.
Self taught really, my channel is just documenting my own journey and study of film. Prisoners is awesome though and has so much to dig into that its a brilliant topic. If you like this kind of video, id suggest my There will be blood video.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ There Will Be Blood and Punch Drunk Love are my favorite films -- I've already watched all your content on both of them, many times haha. Thank you for the suggestion though (: I spoke with you about Barry Egan and how his obsession with the airplane flying tickets was a part of his Clark Kent/Superman thing and needing the ability to "fly", his blue suit/red/yellow ties being superman's suit, how his sisters (his weakness) are always wearing green/have green in the background, like kryptonite, etc, etc. I've been a fan of your work for years.
@@misslarkinreed Thanks Larkin, thats awesome to hear you've been with me for sooo long lol. I finishing up a video today, but was maybe thinking about doing a video on Punch drunk love and Uncut gems and visual connections. The more I watch PDL, the more I'm convinced on something weird going on and how perhaps their is some truth to the original video.
+Adam Roberts I watched the best ever Taxi Driver analysis recently on Channel Criswell's channel. By Lewis. Its amazing, id watch that and have it blow your mind!
The theme of the Bible is love. Love is found in peace. Peace is found with being still, living in and living the present- no matter what situation it presents. In being present, in being at peace in the present one is absent of hate, resentment and judgement. “Forgive those who trespass against us” Forgiveness is apologizing for resenting.‘psychologically judgment and resentment is literally living by your perception and expectations. When someone trespasses against you- it’s nothing new; it is not the world aiming directly at you. It’s something that is happening. You did not create yourself nor the world so the act of judgement is literally pretending to be- or playing as- God. If he were still and patient the result would have been the s same and he wouldn’t have tortured someone. Everything Keller did was for not and he became imprisoned. You become who you hate when you live in your ego. Learn pain and let the ego die by accepting powerlessness. But he took things in his own hand, replaced his daughter in her prison and never saw her rescued. Keller- not the bad guy- could be seen as the antagonist.
Whaaa🤨 🚨 How does Keller know where to go after he talks to the little girl in the hospital? It makes no sense... is it just a long shot? He seems so confident when he confronts the aunt tho... I see this as a major plot hole unfortunately. Great movie otherwise...
It never bothered me really, it seemed like Keller was targeting the boy a lot and was close to that house more than anywhere else and has suspicions about the place and knowing that the two girls were together he put it together that his daughter was still left but in that same place where he'd been. Seemed to click at the time.
That’s just too far fetched mate. The location could have been anywhere. Fair enough if he would go and investigate further, but he straight up threatens the aunt when he walks in... or he could at least talk to the police, so him charging out the hospital wouldn’t lead the investigation to the tortured Alex... Also the way the girl is crying while she says he was there... it kinda makes it seem like Keller took part in the abduction... and when was he there? what is the girl referring too?’ When he was there talking about ‘dreaming a maze’ ? 🤯
So he's a modern-day carpenter. He might also wear sandals in summer. I think you're reading into this more than you should be. Good choice of films to overview,though.
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If you are interested in more analysis of the films of Denis Villeneuve, then watch this video on Sicario: th-cam.com/video/hbHimM6hqYY/w-d-xo.html
Great analysis. Thank you.
I thought Gyllenhalls and Jackman's performances were sadly overlookef by the Academy.
That's because this film wasn't a blatant SJW showpiece. Sadly, it's all political.
George Orwell Jesus Christ ur annoying
@@thesun564 He or she isn't wrong though. I dont think anyone deserved an oscar in this film, but the academy does tend to only award political sjw films. As a lefty myself it does get annoying. Political films should not decide the Oscar's but they do.
The fuck cares what they think? Whoever shoves the most money in the for your consideration has alot more say than actual artists that have no money but much more substance in their work
Who cares what the academy and other dummies think? What u think and how it affects u is the ONLY thing that truly matters..
Did anyone mention that Alex had his RV parked in front of the home he was kidnapped from? He was probably looking for his family ...thats why he was near the girls homes.
OMG I always thought it was way too coincidental how that home just happened to be there. Now it makes sense!
The excessive blinking Loki does is also heavily associated with OCD and trauma, especially people who suffered trauma in childhood. It’s a kind of tick, a way to relieve anxiety and stress in a situation where such an expression of emotion would be inappropriate and/or a tick that manifest if the person struggles overall with experiencing and expressing negative emotions.
My friend Dante Rivera blinks like that. If you ever saw The Ultimate Fighter he was on that in season 7. He lost to Matt Riddle on the Finale show. He runs a jujitsu academy now, but when I was younger he taught me how to hit a speed bag and stuff. I always thought he just had eye problems, but you’re saying that’s usually a tick?
One of the most thought provoking and haunting films I've seen in years.
Tremendously insightful video, I’ve seen Prisoners twice and never picked up on Keller’s dads death. It’s so subtle and yet so integral to his story arch. I love this movie please do long breakdowns like this more often - thanks
Thanks man, yeah I love Prisoners too, such an amazing emotion story but also packed with meaning and deliberate film form choices. Yeah I'm planning on doing some longer break downs soon, so looking forward to sharing!
I didn't pick up on it either. So many details woven together that make up this story.
I only picked up on my third viewing.
Basically the “crackhouse” as the Birch’s eldest daughter calls it was a site of tragic significance for Keller long before he used it as a site to ruthlessly torture and hurt Alex, a place of violence and pain for Keller. The look of abandonment and walls broken and rubbish scattered everywhere adds to the dark and sad nature of that place.
Also sort of sad and ironic in keeping with the title of “Prisoners” in that his Dad was a guard at the prison which Keller most certainly ended up in for what he did to Alex (presuming he was found before he bled out at the end).
You said Alex doesn’t give Keller anything but the reason he goes to Alex’s aunt in the first place is because Alex whispers to him there in the maze. So Keller’s torture of Alex although cruel and not right was actually the reason his daughter was found. Aswell when he is found he will only serve a max of 10 years for his crimes. So in my opinion this is worth it.
There is certainly a theme of 'god works in mysterious ways' in the film. Keller has the dream about his daughter showing him the whistle. That could be seen as some sort of divine intervention. Another example is Loki catching a glimpse of the emergency ward just as he is about to pass out at the wheel. Yet another example is Loki receiving a phone call about a lead just as he is about to have Keller show him around Keller's Dad's old house (possibly finding Alex in doing so). I think it's the Rastafarians who say, 'Jah will provide'. The universe, god...whatever way you like to think of it, will provide the things you need just when you need them. That idea is certainly present in the film.
one of the best movies
Great analysis. Thank you.
I thought one of the most significant clues to Loki's delinquent (criminal?) past was in his appearance. It struck me as quite a deliberate costume choice to make his character appear is if he were in a prison yard; the movie stereotype prisoner with buttoned-up blue shirt, slicked-back hair, tattoos, woolly hat and even the matchstick between his teeth in a lot of the scenes. Loki is the only character that is prisoner throughout the entire film. A prisoner either of his own conscience for carrying around the meaningless (to him) praise of having always solved the case - which of course, does not necessarily mean that he has ever saved a child's life, only that he has brought the perpetrators to justice - or of the system he has to work within. Only in the final brilliant scene do we see that he may finally be able to reconcile (in every meaning of the word), which is the other main theme of the film.
The simplest way to interpret Loki's masonic ring is to think of it as symbolising his attachment to reasoned thinking. It sets up the differences between himself and Keller (his most obvious symbol being the cross). Funnily though, I don't see Loki as a member of any club! He is a classic movie misfit in many ways, I think that is why we relate to him so much.
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Donnie Darko transcended his tangential universe and then incarnated as the Norse god of Chaos in the Prisoner’s universe.
Darren not many people like you.. You are an amazing man of commitment and have a great eye for symbolism and parallels!! Thank you for bringing this movie into a new light! I can't wait to rewatch it. -Your friend Logan
+Logan Hasty Thanks Logan, really looking forward to digging into Sicario once it comes out on dvd!
I've enjoyed listening & watching your commentary about parallels, family legacies, dynamics of Injustice deeply rooted in controversy and how it translates to film by great writers and the dynamics & subtlety of the music used. You've got a great eye & ear on all fronts. Are you a fan of any series as well? "The Prisoner" w/Patrick McGowan, 60's spy series comes to mind. Iconic opening & closing sequences. Saw your "Place Beyond the Pines" segment prior to this, if you follow, my mind wandering Cheers!
I had seen this film once before, and I think I was a bit too taken aback by the torture. However I watched it again tonight and appreciated it much more; the writing, performances, score, editing and cinematography are all fantastic!
Afterwards wanted to know others' thought on it. Thanks you for your great analysis!
p.s. I didn't realize how many from-behind-glass shots there were!
I know its such a great film, I was instantly blown away by it, and when I started investigating it, was amazed how much detail was going on!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ This film has become one of my favourites, even though the subject matter is bleak and you can't help but vicariously feel the psychological torment of Keller, Loki and Alex. I mean it takes emotional energy to watch with any serious engagement.
It was on TV tonight and I watched it, impressed again.
I am always reminded of your review when I watch Prisoners. You highlight so many great details - subtle, overt, thematic, symbolic, artistic. It's honestly added to my enjoyment of the film. So thanks! :)
Definitely need more of these
+RUDE Thanks man, thinking about tackling Sicario next!
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Just watched Sicario, it has similar themes of dominance, control and law enforcement. I think a message of both movies is that the means (e.g. dominance) we try to resolve deep conflicts, sometimes plays into and perpetuates it.
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS I saw Sicario and thought it was good but wasn't great. the first 30 minutes were by far the best part of the film. The plot, to me, felt too simple and had an unwarranted revenge plot infused with it.
I really enjoy it on my first viewing, but its coming out on DvD in Feb so ill be interested to see how i feel seeing it again!
I have watched this movie so many times. It's so good and so underrated. I love loki subtle and very guarded personality but you can tell exactly really who he is. Also we need to remember how good Paul Dano was in this.
The "crossover" of the characters reminds me of the way the film Collateral plays out
Darren, I absolutely love your film analysis. You get down to the smallest details and I am always anxious to watch these films again after watxhing your videos!
Thats great to hear man thanks! always great to here these videos are reaching film lovers and building the love for great films! Thanks
Didn't realise how much there was to this film, I picked up on bits and pieces but this video is great!
Great Analysis Buddy, I will now rewatch it now!!! Appreciate your & Director work. Great Job..
I stumbled upon this right after I saw the movie (few years back) and thought that it was an amazing video. Tried to find it again few months later but could not. I am very happy that I discovered your channel again. Instant subscribe.
Yeah has some copyright issues with the video so this is it back up and running again!
This is the best analysis of Prisoners by far!You are great!Subscribed.:-)
Fantastic breakdown. I love this film and your insight was eye opening.
Thanks! Its a personal favourite of mine too, haven't seen it in a while, probably due a re-watch soon! Always happy when this video can reach other fans of the film!
Wonderful analysis. I've learned a lot from your videos. Please keep on creating them
Dude! This is certainly your best analysis (or at least my favorite). Thanks a lot for your work and carry on! (and feel free to analyse more Denis Villeneuve movies, or maybe Richard Kelly's too). ;)
Great analysis! Love your work, mate
+John W. King Thanks man, there was so much to dig into for this film!
This is so remarkably thorough. Thank you so much for your meticulous attention to detail. If you have a Patreon, I would gladly support your work. Outstanding.
Hey man, thanks for the positive feedback. my wife and I just had a baby so haven't been sharing many video but I'm in the process of creating a return so pretty excited about that, should have some new videos soon. www.patreon.com/MUSTSEEFILMS
Great job as always! I've seen this movie 5 times and I NEVER realized the cross swinging away from Keller until you mentioned it; that blew my mind man. Did you see the Revenant? I saw it 2 days ago and thought it was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen!!
+Kyle Sofia Nolan Awesome, not seen it yet, i should have been work has been taking over a little recently, should be going this weekend though!
Can’t believe I didn’t catch the ‘loss of sight in one eye’ theme. Great stuff
Amazing the lengths and detail in this film.
the mason ring
could symbolize the desire to know secret wisdom or truths
seems to gel with the detectives character
True
On of the best film analysis I have ever seen - You got yourself a new subscriber.
+chrsweden awesome thanks man!! thinking of talking sicario next!
You are very wise. Thank you for your stunning read and interpretation of this film.
Thanks, its a personal favourite of mine, so always glad when it reaches another fan of the film.
Darren, your film analysis is by far my favorite of anything out there! Great job!
Thanks Ryan, I'm literally in the editing of a new video at the moment, been a long while since iv shared anything but gearing up for another run at things! Glad you hear you're enjoying them, Prisoners was one of my personal favourites.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ Stoked you’re bringing us some new material!
@@ryebread7224 Me too! Should be done and out by end of next week.
Brilliant analysis, especially loved the bit about Odin and the symbolism of one eye. It could also link with the fact that "Loki," derives from the same Scandinavian myths as Odin, as Loki a trickster god and Odin's step brother
Yeah I love the idea of Loki as the trickers, as it plays into the audiences suspicions of him thought the film and also maybe touches at a troublesome past.
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Please make more of these, the analysis on the PTA films and Shame were the most insightful things to make me think as a filmmaker who wants to put deepness and meaning on my own movies. Thank you very much for all this great work, I sure hope to inspire people with my movies like you inspire me with your videos. Keep up the good work, Darren! You are one of the best!
+Pedro Buson Thanks Pedro! awesome to hear my videos are reaching other filmlovers and filmmakers out there! got some big plans for upcoming videos and looking forward to sharing them all soon!
I feel proud I discovered your channel before you blow up.
Others have already stated but man.....
Must See Films be getting their hands DIRTY with some details son!
Thanks Brent! It was easy to dig in with a film so detailed as Prisoners! Also thats for the continued support and sticking around for so long, but I am planning on created some new videos in the near future and try and get a run at this again!!
The ending... they purposely show us that Keller is a very resourceful survivor. He has a flashlight and is scavenging immediately after shut in the pit. We see sneakers sitting beside the whistle of his daughter's he finds. Loki is told flat out that the whistle is still missing and was found and lost again during their kidnapping. The sneakers mean Keller will quickly make a tourny for his leg wound. Loki was back on the scene the very next night and I find it odd that nobody would find his TRUCK still on Holly's property but Loki clearly hears the whistle at the end. EARLIER in the film when Loki first goes to see Holly, he is snooping around the pit/Trans Am when she comes out to stop him. (The girls ARE down there at this time, Holly even tells us this). Loki will hear the whistling and remember that pit and how Holly tried to stop him. He will also rescue Keller because he thinks Keller IS a "good man" at least in his own mind and never would've killed Alex.
Great analysis.
Love this video!!!
This video made me look at Keller in a way much different than just a dad trying to rescue his daughter. Excellent Review!
Thanks man, Kellers character is the most interesting for me and the most hardbreaking because he doesn't get to see the victory at the end, but I feel like its just God testing him and have total faith that Loki finds him after the credits.
He’s loses all his Christian values the minute he has no control of a situation.
Hi Darren. Been following you for a while. Finally seen this movie tonight. This is probably your best analysis. First time scared me off the movie, but excited my curiosity. Tonight, I see your eye. Thanks. One of the best movies of this decade. Well worth your attention. Look forward to seeing more.
If you liked Prisoners, I highly recommend Oldboy (Original Korean version), Memories of Murder, Zodiac, and Se7en
Amazing Video
I need to watch the movie again
Brilliant review / analysis
Amazing analysis!!
Glad you enjoyed it, its probably on the deepest dives Iv done on a film, but this film totally deserved it because of how dense it was!
Thank you for this video. It is a very good analysis. I really like this movie, it always makes me wonder what I would do in a situation like this and I don't have an answer for that. Regards
Brilliant analysis!
Thanks man, its an amazing film full of depth, totally love it!
Rewatching this again after all these years after rewatching the film. There’s so much in this film that it’s a bit difficult to really articulate in a comment, but this film is fantastic as is this analysis. The performances are fantastic, especially by Hugh Jackman and Jake Gyllenhaal who gave Academy Award worthy performances, story is executed so well and it makes you think what would you do if your kids were missing. This is a film that I watch every so often and I remember seeing this in the theater when it came out and truly enjoying it. I can’t decide if I like this or Sicario better. I might like them both equally as they’re both so good, yet so different. Thank you for all you do Darren, take care!
I agree, its such an amazing film, I actually haven't rewatched it since I made this video, or since I now have a child. Iv been meaning to return to it recently. This one edges out Sicario for me, both are amazing, but something about my initial theatre experience of this film was so powerful.
Fantastic analysis
+EljaySupertramp Thanks, there was a serious amount of detail and intentional work by the director to dig into!
your videos are underrated. not enough views considering the high quality. i really like how you highlight denis villeneuve's skill. i'm so pumped for blade runner 2049, not sure how i'm gonna be able to wait for it. looking forward to your Arrival analysis.
Darren, very well done. Just saw this movie for the first time a few days ago. Villeneuve has a golden touch. I've loved everything he's done so far. Can't wait for Blade Runner. One thing I noticed that I thought you would point out was when Keller is praying but he couldn't finish the prayer. The part of the prayer that he couldn't finish was the part that talks about asking God to forgive us as we forgive those who have trespassed against us. He's conflicted with saying that part cause he doesn't feel a shred of forgiveness toward his daughter's kidnapper and, in turn, fears that God will not forgive him for what he is doing. Great analysis video. I'm going to subscribe.
Thanks Tom, thats interesting I hadn't noticed that part, i noticed the gap but not being that familiar with the prayer i missed the relevance of the missed part. Cool, thats awesome to know. Villeneuve is so on the money in this film!!
yeay! the video is working now!
This is a great film!
+Life-Row-Toll Yeah had a few issues of copyright etc but all sorted now which is good news.
This makes denis my second fav director ever prisoners is a masterpiece of tension and thrill
Unbelievable work mate. Well done G
My favorite film ever, but now having watched your explanation i feel kinda dumb. Seems like i didnt even pick up one detail.
@@hannes919 I think all the details are there to create the tone and feeling, so that the overall impact for an audience is powerful, like you said, favourite film, but if you wanted to dig a little deeper, there is alot making that happen. such an amazing film!
I think i never felt so inspired by one video in the 12 years of youtube. Special. I will never watch a movie from the same state of my mind
Have you seen "Incendies" by this filmmaker? fantastic film!
+CleverLee_Dope no not yet but been meaning to watch it!
+Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Watch it soon as posible, it's my favorite Villeneuve film and i think it was the one that set the path for an extraordinary movie director.
+CleverLee_Dope I appreciate the cinema recommendations
Amazing story that Blows Minds ;-)
Darren,thank you!!
Great analysis, you inspire me, thanks.
I wonder what's your take on this-
The scene when Loki arrives at the aunt's house. Editing makes it appear to me that she was aware that Loki was coming. Loki knocks on the door and she would have been able to hear it. (She's always prepared for these moments, like when Keller came and she was ready with her gun). Also Loki was able to hear her opening the girl's room.
Do you think that she realized her run has taken its course at that point, or that she decided tace it head on by killing the girl and potentially killing Loki too?
Yeah thats what it seemed like to me, that she felt like it was over, and didn't want the police to win, so she'd kill the girl in order to have the final victory. But then Loki works his magic!
Darren, wicked stuff man.
How long does this film analysis process take? Watching the film, trying to notice symbolism in it, etc? Also, any tips for someone who wants to start studying these things?
+Matthew Sudiyono some of my videos are shorter and can take a few days but the film analysis video take my a month or more, usually it involves watching the film a few times and taking notes on what i notice and my initial feeling towards the film, figuring out the message at the core of the films and what i believe its about and then digging into whatever else i can find on the film from external sources like interviews, blogs etc. Then ill draft a script and work out exactly how to structure and present the information, then ill record my audio from the script. Once i have the audio ill edit all the visuals to it. The editing and music etc is the film sprint finish and may take like a week for a video of this length but the research and prep part is 90% of the real work.
As for how to start studying, i started with alot of film theory books, i have an old video here which goes through a bunch of books i used in the beginning, hope this is useful!
th-cam.com/video/dgF6zTGCy-M/w-d-xo.html
Darren - MUST SEE FILMS wicked man, thanks
Masterpiece
The fact that this video doesn't pop up first after typing "Prisoners" says a lot about society (because it should pop up first).
subbed bro!
My favorite part of the movie is when Keller is saying the Lord’s Prayer next to Alex and he can’t say the next line “as we forgive those who trespassed against us” this is when he realizes what he has done is wrong but he’s in too deep so he just keeps going for his daughter.
Great video bro
+potatolicker Thanks man, loved this film so much!
I don’t care what anyone says I don’t think Alex is totally innocent Ik in his head he wasn’t intending to abduct them but he was strong to overpower an old woman it shows he’s capable when he try’s to escape his captivity so I know for a fact he could have done something’s since he was a victim himself I know Keller isn’t innocent necessarily but I do believe he husky totally in the wrong for beating the shit out of Alex
Yeah the lines of right and wrong get totally blurred in this film, but for Keller Im sympathetic and understanding because the drivelling force to save his daughter is so raw and strong, I can imagine other people doing the same.
how can I find the whole video
Amazing movie
Awesom!
+Richard Lorio Thanks man, loved this film so much!
If you ever have a secret you don’t want anyone to know, but for some reason you have to tell someone, just tell Alex he will never tell anyone no matter what. 😂
Literally the best movie ever made
I'd agree, probably one of my most powerful in cinema visceral experiences iv ever had. That ending!!
Great vid. Have you seen Beasts Of No Nation? If you haven't I think you should it's on Netflix. Great film by the way.
+Nick Rodriguez Nice, been search netflix i little more recently, ill check it out!
Ironic how you mention Odin the Nordic god and Gyllenhaal's character's name is Detective Loki ;)
Any thoughts?
+Benjamin Pham Yeah pretty interesting, i feel like the director was pulling from so many different sources and themes here, and greek mythology seems to be one of them.
Hi Darren! I really love your videos mate. I have a quick question. What is the name of the track you use on this video. (Not the film score, but the stock music you used once you started analyzing it.)
Thanks so much!
I can't remove the name of it, as this is an old video which i reuploaded, but at this time i was using music from the youtube audio library, its got loads of good music, and you just search the genre or type you are looking for. hopefully you'll find something good there.
Thank you so much mate! You are awesome.
Last year?
Great video, made me apprecate more the movie. But I don't understand the supposed redemption of Keller: he is redeemed because he blow the whistle...?
Wonderful...
Thanks man, this is my favourite of his films! I could tell right away how in control of the direction and narrative it was! so great!
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ thanks for your reply...can u explain another Denis Villeneuve directed film Enemy?plz
I haven't done a video on Enemy but I have done a podcast with all my thoughts digging into and trying to make sense of it here: itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/must-see-films/id1412066099
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ sir I am very sorry to say it's not opening...i have installed i tunes but all it in vain...sir I req you to make a video on this film...
Thats weird, I have it as an unlisted video here: th-cam.com/video/BJ4MGRkmJl0/w-d-xo.html
31:39 "...Upcoming Film Enemy"? When did you make this video?
That explains the disclaimer in the beginning. Thanks mate.
+Husain Ahmadi Yeah this is re-edit of an old video that was taken down by youtube, i had trouble with copyright etc, so managed to work around it and i think it actually plays a little better now
this story remind of comic book call truth faith.
how about sock Loki found in Keller's old house?
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Is this an old video? I thought enemy came out around the same time as prisoners and he recently came out with sicario (amazing)... Either way great video I new religion played a big part but the tiny details you uncovered where great!
+Jusef Conesa Yeah i had this video up a good while ago and it got taken down by youtube, so i tried to re-edit around the bits that were causing the copyright strike and uploaded it again because i still liked this video and wanted to have it on the channel after all the work i did for it.
Did you study film for years at school, or is this all self-taught? You're brilliant.
Self taught really, my channel is just documenting my own journey and study of film. Prisoners is awesome though and has so much to dig into that its a brilliant topic. If you like this kind of video, id suggest my There will be blood video.
@@_MUSTSEEFILMS_ There Will Be Blood and Punch Drunk Love are my favorite films -- I've already watched all your content on both of them, many times haha. Thank you for the suggestion though (:
I spoke with you about Barry Egan and how his obsession with the airplane flying tickets was a part of his Clark Kent/Superman thing and needing the ability to "fly", his blue suit/red/yellow ties being superman's suit, how his sisters (his weakness) are always wearing green/have green in the background, like kryptonite, etc, etc. I've been a fan of your work for years.
@@misslarkinreed Thanks Larkin, thats awesome to hear you've been with me for sooo long lol. I finishing up a video today, but was maybe thinking about doing a video on Punch drunk love and Uncut gems and visual connections. The more I watch PDL, the more I'm convinced on something weird going on and how perhaps their is some truth to the original video.
I love loky
Could you do a film analysis on Taxi Driver?
+Adam Roberts I watched the best ever Taxi Driver analysis recently on Channel Criswell's channel. By Lewis. Its amazing, id watch that and have it blow your mind!
Darren - MUST SEE FILMS Just finished it and its amazing! Thanks for the recommendation
+Adam Roberts Nice! after seeing it I'm sure you'll agree it very thorough and totally nails it!
I think the guy that the preacher killed was Alex’s “aunts” husband who let her after they had a fight. Too many coincidences in this movie
If it is possible can you consider making an analysis of " No country for old men"
+Al Hlapov Rob ager has a good video in that film!
Thank you!
This channel doesn't get enough credit.
nice analysis almost just like my analysis
The theme of the Bible is love. Love is found in peace. Peace is found with being still, living in and living the present- no matter what situation it presents. In being present, in being at peace in the present one is absent of hate, resentment and judgement. “Forgive those who trespass against us”
Forgiveness is apologizing for resenting.‘psychologically judgment and resentment is literally living by your perception and expectations. When someone trespasses against you- it’s nothing new; it is not the world aiming directly at you. It’s something that is happening. You did not create yourself nor the world so the act of judgement is literally pretending to be- or playing as- God. If he were still and patient the result would have been the s same and he wouldn’t have tortured someone. Everything Keller did was for not and he became imprisoned. You become who you hate when you live in your ego. Learn pain and let the ego die by accepting powerlessness. But he took things in his own hand, replaced his daughter in her prison and never saw her rescued. Keller- not the bad guy- could be seen as the antagonist.
If you like Denis Villeneuve. You should watch Incendies.
How can Alex drive if he has the mind of a ten year old?
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How does Keller know where to go after he talks to the little girl in the hospital? It makes no sense... is it just a long shot? He seems so confident when he confronts the aunt tho... I see this as a major plot hole unfortunately.
Great movie otherwise...
It never bothered me really, it seemed like Keller was targeting the boy a lot and was close to that house more than anywhere else and has suspicions about the place and knowing that the two girls were together he put it together that his daughter was still left but in that same place where he'd been. Seemed to click at the time.
That’s just too far fetched mate. The location could have been anywhere. Fair enough if he would go and investigate further, but he straight up threatens the aunt when he walks in... or he could at least talk to the police, so him charging out the hospital wouldn’t lead the investigation to the tortured Alex... Also the way the girl is crying while she says he was there... it kinda makes it seem like Keller took part in the abduction... and when was he there? what is the girl referring too?’ When he was there talking about ‘dreaming a maze’ ?
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no. Joy says he was there because he was there. on the property when they were. thats why he went back to the jones house
Its "pray" not "prey".
So he's a modern-day carpenter. He might also wear sandals in summer. I think you're reading into this more than you should be. Good choice of films to overview,though.
"prey for the best" ... c'mon man