Is The 991.2 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Simply Too Hard & Fast To Enjoy On The Road?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- I do enjoy a good 911, and I have driven many this week. However, some recent cars I have driven from Stuttgart have been a little too hard to enjoy on the roads. Today I'm driving one of the most hardcore models in the line-up - the GT3 RS, but on Scottish roads will it simply be too much of a track car to have fun in?
#Porsche #911 #GT3RS
Thanks to Donald from Porsche Scotland Central
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I'm loving the Porsche Week. It's like Shark Week, but for dentists.
Top comment !
Damn... this is the best title for a series of Porsche clips.. dentist week haha
As a dentist with a 911 this made me chuckle
@@51mr4n Also dentist, can confirm.
Lmao
My favorite part is the lizard in the center console. The owner appears to be a fun human!
That, and the Lizard Green key and fob...
definitely the way to spec one of these!
You can drive my 991.2 manual GT3 next spring with rose jointed control arms, it's every thing you want in a GT3. You get that engine, you get the manual box, you get the steering feel.
Hey it’s me. JayEmm on cars.
Hey it’s me. James. Send noods. Of the car. Pls.
if u were in Sydney i would offer my Jag Ftype R for a friendly touge
Ahhhh, i commented yesterday that i was impressed....this is better again, top channel, you are just gettin better and better
Thanks again!
Agreed!
500+ hp and 9,000 redline?
OK. You have my attention.
The sound of a GT3 never gets old. EVER. To me it's the V12 of our era.
I’ve seen the new one driving in the streets a few times now and the sound is pretty bad at low rpm, sounds like a 4 cyl. But I’m sure great at high rpm still
@Patrick Bai hah, not first 911 I’ve heard. Was comparing to others
@@HeyhitmeBAMthe guy was trying to get around the fact that they don't sound good at low rpm, they don't but that's fine
TH-cam: You can’t make patterns for a shirt out of someone’s face
James: watch me
Just goes to show how amazingly ethical you are as a motoring journalist when you still give positive comparisons with McLaren even after your friend and his dad's woes.
The cars are good
@@JayEmmOnCars Just the dealers in Cheshire? I know you said Manchester but I assume it was the one in Wilmslow near Ferrari? It's the only one I've seen round here.
Yeah and sadly HQ are not very helpful either
Thanks for the great review on my car James, I hope you enjoyed driving it. All the best, Donald. #gt03hos #porschescotlandcentral
Thanks again for bringing it out!
Been waiting for this video for a long time. I know the owner and what a legend he is. Takes it to Knockhill whenever he can!
Also, you’re the only channel where I let all the ads run fully. Keep up the good work!
You star, thankyou very much. And yeah the owner was super nice!
I’ve stopped enjoying cars on the road a long time ago... Trackday’s and amateur racing are where are I get my thrills :)
GT3 Touring in a sombre colour. Job done!
The GT3 PDK has an interesting "paddle neutral" function. For my money the 991.1 GT3 is the way.
You know this is something special when it goes to 9000rpm and sounds like metal beams in a washing machine while doing so.
Brilliant review James, you clearly enjoyed this on our behalf 👍🏼
Someone needs to tell me these are shit, so I don't crave for one of them so desperately :(
They're shit
@@JayEmmOnCars Thanks :’) Appreciated!
They are as amazing as they look!!
Worse people carrier ever
Get a Corvette for half and out run them !!
That is a beautiful looking car - the eye-catching colour sets it off perfectly.
It’s incredible how good the suspension on these modern GT3’s really is, I find myself driving mine in standard mode on my favourite B Roads😎
Love the 991 gt3rs the sound of the flat six sounds absolutely awesome
Yeah, especially at high revs while blasting through the Autobahn! Not at street legal driving speeds though...
Just a note on "the 600LT is way faster" that you mentioned: around the ring, the McLaren is more than 10 seconds slower. The 600LT is probably only faster in a straight line; put in some corners and the GT3 RS will gobble it up.
One thing to remember is the calibre of Porsche's test drivers and their familiarity around the ring!
I'd find that to be believable though, as in the McLaren is lighter and has turbos which would mean punchier acceleration. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer the gt3, but I reckon the McLaren would be gone. Tyres could be a factor also
@@richboy900 The 600LT is slower on track. They don`t handle on the same level, the Aero is not up to par for a fast big track, etc.
It`s not only faster it also way cheaper to run than the McLaren. It`s 20-40% of the costs of a McLaren.
just like Robert Mitchell (another fellow youtuber who spends his time on the ring) pointed out, you buy the McLaren because of how it feels, the noise, and how it looks. Actual performance is a secondary thing with McLarens. The Porsches are pretty much the most effective and efficient track tool you can buy right now. Especially the GT3 RS.
Thank for all your videos this year.
My pleasure Richard, thanks for watching
Totally hear on the GT2 vs 3rs price/ specs, but I just love the way the GT2rs front looks So much meaner :) but that’s just me. Love the channel! Keep up the great content
997.1... 991.1.. 901, 915... 930, 964, 993, 996, 997, 991, 992.. BINGO!
just as an explanation to those who wonder why McLarens have narrower tyres: from a Vehicle Dynamics department point of view they have always chosen the approach (I think it started with Gordon Murray's F1) to put the narrowest tyre that can cope with the power. Hence the P1 has narrower tyres (unless I'm mistaken) than the 918 or LaFerrari. However its engine still allows it a very quick standing mile. The benefit is good steering feel and also a nice "driftable" car. You can power slide a 997 GT3 but on most dry roads it's not that easy for every day drivers (it is for Tiff Needell or Chris Harris who've practiced a lot). The modern 911s tend to be a bit "over-tyred". They feel very sharp and are a hoot on those welsh roads. A car that is more adjustable and fun for the average driver is a Cayman with not too wide sections front and rear. Ultimate track performance is typically conflicting with driving feel.
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This has to be one the best GT3 RS reviews I have ever seen. Now I need a winning lottery ticket!
Probably my dream car it’s not a car it’s art. I really really want a GT3 RS
I utterly love the ending music 🎵
The things I would do to own one of these. What an amazing machine. Great video as per!
Chris Harris review of this car is the best, he drives it as it is supposed to be driven.
Helper springs aren't actually contributing any support to the weight of the car. The spring rate of the helper spring is too low for that purpose. It is purely there to keep the main spring in the correct position. In fact, the helper spring is fully compressed most of the time, until the suspension is beyond a certain level of droop, does the helper spring expand. The reason why the GT3 RS has decent ride compliance on the right roads is because the damper rebound control is actually relatively soft.
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Came here to say this!
I get what you’re saying about the GT2 but it’s actually a better road car because of the turbochargers. It’s got low down torque which makes it far more drivable. I’d still have the GT3 RS though because N/A
The 911 GT2's price puts it in another class. Even rich people have budgets. Not everyone who is willing to spend $200K is willing to spend $350k.
It's not like the 3RS has some horrible lack of torque. Sure, the 2RS creams it, but the 3RS still has adequately drivable torque.
Amazing how good modern GT3's are now as daily drivers. Have you driven a 991.2 GT3 Manual mate? I am considering adding one to garage at somepoint and think the manual option might add that little bit extra inter-activity at more sane speeds.
Am I the only one who prefers the styling of the 991.2 over the 992?
I would vote if I could tell the difference 🤣
@@CathodeRayNipplez lol. 🤣🤣
Eh, me too. 992 is a little bit... big on the back. GT3 looks promising, though.
@@AntoniusTyas yep. Apparently it's still NA!
@@Sto950 I don't know which I rather the 997 or 991
Do you ever feel nervous hooning around in other friends cars. What do you leave as the deposit should you bend it ?. 'The wife' perhaps when its a Classic on this level. Great video as always . Not much between you and Harry's Garage in my opinion. Thanks for making our lock down just that bit easier with all you put together.
Thankyou Simon. I have a full trade policy to cover me on cars I drive. Honestly it's the old classics which have sentimental value I worry about - those are truly irreplaceable.
The day you took that 220 out made me die. I still can't relax properly when out and about in my girl. Happy Christmas.
Give me the GT3 RS any day over the ferocious GT2 RS which is too expensive for the relatively small performance gains it offers and it lacks that delicious soundtrack of the normally aspirated four litre gem in the 3. Both cars are fantastic drivers cars though and to own either is to be truly blessed.. 👍👍
James your content is just getting more and more enjoyable. Thank you for all your hard work. It brings a lot of enjoyment to us all. You deserve to do well 🙂👍
Great genuine review as always. Porsche 911 stopped at 991.2 gt3 rs for me as well. Like you , starting to be ok with 992 exterior (barr bacon and strip lights). Dont think time can fix the interior……
Our signal yellow RS is the best car we have had through our business. Stunning
If I had one of these in the US I'd get a custom plate: NUCLRFRG (nuclear frog)
The Porsche that turns "horrifically expensive" up to no.11.
Depends how much one pays for their car. RS models hold strong values.
You lucky batsteward one of my favourite cars, I've fallen for Porsche recently and bro in law works for a Porsche dealer, anyhow I'd take that over a McLaren( which I do like also) on build quality alone
Build quality of my Panamera over three years was shocking. Don’t believe the hype. Journos and TH-camrs get too easily sucked in.
WHAT A MACHINE THAT FALT 6 SOUND IS MESMERIZING
Most modern supercars are to powerful and fast for the road, not to mention to big. It’s why I love the hot hatch so much, not to powerful or big to enjoy on the road.
I agree on the supercars, but hot hatches are doing it too. The latest crop of German "hyper hatches" like the A45S are too fast but also lost all the fun of a hot hatch. I test drove a new Type R thinking that would at least be fun, but it was waaaaay too serious. Looks mental but it's not a car you can drive like an idiot which for me is the whole point of a hot hatch. I bought a Porsche instead...but not a GT3RS (too fast...but mostly I can't afford it). I went for a 981 Cayman S, which I think is about the fastest car that you can throw around like a hot hatch. Has the boot space to match too.
@@ApothecaryTerry I agree with you with a lot of modern hot hatches not being that fun anymore and also being to expensive. I think something like a small hot hatch like the gr Yaris or fiesta are about the perfect cars to go fast in on the roads. I also think your choice of the cayman is a great one for the reason you said.
@@gumpy4960 Yeah I'm definitely a big fan of both the Yaris and Fiesta. If I had room/money for a second car I'd have an ST in a flash.
@@ApothecaryTerry Agreed, for this reason I think the MK VII GTI is just about perfect. I enjoy the Tesla 3 LR we got but I miss my old Porsche handling too. Great choice.
@@acchaladka I used to hate GTis because Golfs are boring in general but I've grown a soft spot for the GTi since they're just good and it's hard to argue with that.
Watched a chap in a .1 RS give it the giblets through the gears on a byepass. highly impressed., remember your on the ball 991 gt3 early vid comments, thanks.
I was just in this car around knockhill this exact one
Nice review Jay, I'd take one in a less shouty colour I think
I think this is one of the best looking cars out there everytime you look at it you discover something else ace review.
Please show us a video of you entering and exiting the car. Great fun
Watch my fat guy lotus elise video
haven't finished the video yet, but it's definitely a car you drive to the track and back, rather than an actual road car
Great video! I think I personally prefer the styling of the 991.1 to the 991.2 GT3 RS, don’t know what it is but just does it for me.
It’s probably astigmatism
@@JDMism 😂😂
For me, a 991 GT3 is all the car you'd ever need. Perfection.
Over 9 seconds a lap is a bit more than "a few seconds"
GT2 RS = 6:47.3
GT3 RS Weissach Pack = 6:56.4
Add the weissach pack to the GT2 RS (the lap time came before it was available i believe) and you will no doubt find some extra time.
Oh yeah and it doesn't need to wait for the 918 batteries to run out, its already ever so slightly quicker round the 'ring
9 seconds out of a total of 416 seconds is completely negligible.
Watching this channel is making me want to buy a sportscar. You might be costing me a lot of money, James.
This lad is living the dream. Fantastic stuff.
Proper content for enthusiasts!! 👍🏼👍🏼
Not some muppet simply showing off a nice car and wrapping it a distasteful colour 😆
'..it seems pretty-well setup..'
For daily use a 911 Touring and for tracking the 2021 GT 3 RS. - Ah - and a McLaren 600 LT is just faster in the straight line. On full-size tracks, the GT3 RS eats the McLaren for lunch. The McLaren is way slower on the Nürburgring and not even in the same league. The Porsche is not only quicker, but it also does the same job for 20-40% of the maintenance costs of a McLaren.
718 GTS models are a joy to try at 60mph and below.
As always, I enjoyed this video. I just have to watch it in the mirror to get over the right hand driving.
The 991.2 GT3 RS is a very well balanced car, shocker. I’m not sure Andreas Pruninger would agree the 991.1 GT3 has more steering feel than the 991.2 GT3 RS though. Great car, love my 991.2 GT3 they really are something special.
I'd have to say that these are far too much for the road. I remember seeing Karun Chandhok saying something similar when he dove one on 5th Gear a few years ago and even though the 991 GT3 RS is my dream car, I wouldn't want to dive one on the UK roads as I'd either end up dead or in prison and neither of those to options appeal to me right about now. Definitely a track tool for those that can afford it.
They actually make an amazing road car too, but only when you’re far away from a city, on un-policed ‘motoring magazine’ twisty roads and with some friends who have spent twice as much on their ultra-flashy, super high horsepower machinery (that far exceeds their driving ability). Then you can stick close to their tail without breaking a sweat, or romp off into the distance while their cars bottom-out. When you stop, they will all swear “there’s no way that thing has only 520bhp”...
Honestly, it's too fast to enjoy on the road. I found it frustrating. It's not unpleasant to drive but its frustrating not being able to drive it on public roads at the levels it's meant to be. The 8000-9000 rpm are the sweet spot and you are way above speed limits when you are there. This is a track tool, not a road car and for its purpose its THE perfect car. And I love the lizard green!
Yeah, but even though you can't fully enjoy it's capabilities on public streets...if you have a reason to use it on public streets sometimes, it's still way more fun than a Camry or something.
I'm sure all the many, many hours that Porsche's designers, mechanical engineers and test drivers put in were not wasted in achieving the Mighty JayEmm saying its "pretty well set up."
I am sure Andreas will be very happy to know
@@JayEmmOnCars 😉 👍
Those 8500 rpm's😍😍
9000 in the 991.2 cars you mean
@@jamesmac2668 isn't the GT3 RS limited to 8500 rpm's and regular GT3 with 9000 rpm??
@@sriharidesai7606 no that was the 991.1
@@sriharidesai7606 991.1=8800rpm , 991.2=9000rpm🤗
Never really been a fan of the 911 but sometimes there is that sneaky admission that there is a certain one (and in this case it's painted in Lizard Green) that you would like to have parked on your front drive......
A bit like James liking the shape of the new Nissan Micra!
JayEmm: the 9A1 is the evolution of a Mezger both in the Turbo and GT3 versions. GT3 obviously has many internal differences to do 9,000 rpm N/A.
Nice giving Barry a shout out.....
In England it's a license destroyer personally you need somewhere like the auto bahn to enjoy it still it's a great car!
A black 991.2 has definitely got to be my dream car besides a Ferrari F40 and honda nsx-r
You, sir, are a wordsmith. Bravo. Subscribed
Great colour
Cracking video, love the car and your down to earth style. Was this filmed in Scotland? Noticed the place sign Dolphinton and thought I recognised some of the scenery.
I looked around an orange one of these in a showroom, only disappointed was the black plastic bits on the body just didn't look very nice (I know 1st world problems)
I would still run blindfold across an American freeway to drive one, but the plastics surprised me.
Would love to watch a 996 gt3 RS review if you manage to get your mitts on one 😌
Definitely my ultimate dreamcar. Looks like a damn Hotwheel!
Jay is the guy you could just be best mates with
Ok car....epic shirt XD
This is why I think the regular GT3 is a tad better for overall street/track use. Plus you don’t AUTOMATICALLY garner the attention of the police as quickly
I am new here- Great video, really relaxed and informative. Love Porsche GT cars! Thank you.
This isn’t an entirely accurate review. There is loads of steering dynamic driving thrills, and amazing feel of tyre grip through the front or rear tyres in a 991.2 GT3 RS. I can only guess you wasn’t driving it fast enough, which is harder to explore on public roads. Drive it around the track like Silverstone, (which is what as RS is aimed at), then you will feel exactly what’s going on with those wide front tyres. This is an excellent car for driver feedback and communicating the limits. You will just lose your license way before, and zero fear of death, your bollox won’t even fit in the bucket seats trying on the road 🤷♂️
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I’ve got a a whole lot of want and love for this car, please let me win the lottery.
Please don’t ever stop filming drive by and accelerations
One of the best cars in the world
I am looking for a new house and I saw these on the street yesterday... There's my dream driving away
Ultimate car
You didn't like the 992 Carrera S Cabriolet you reviewed, but I'm intrigued to find out if your thoughts on the upcoming 992 GT3 manual will be the same or not. I'm sure the digital dashboard look won't be much different, but Andreas Preuninger told C.Harris and H.Catchpole that the front axle will feature double wishbone suspension - and I remember how much you like that suspension design. Time will tell.
Good review -- thanks! You know what I noticed, though? You didn't laugh while you drove it. Too bad. You laugh when you drive hot hatches.
That shirt is louder than the car
Not many cars sound this good
Really would have liked to see a car like this pushed through some more corners
James could you get a review on a Lexus SC430. Would love to see your opinion of it. And maybe some other Lexus' cars like the ISF
2003/4 996.1 GT3 RS ('milk float' red over white or blue over white) the best and most feelsome they have made imho. 997 and beyond too much on the queen's highway!
There was no 996.1 RS.
@@hmk911 Sorry typo meant 996.2 - ps I had the first GT3 in UK reg V295 HGS was German import and thus lhd - featured in Evo Targa in Sicily.
really enjoyed
watching this very late and I'm wondering if these are actually an incredible buy in 2024. Values seem to have.... bottomed? dare I say it?
Oh my god, not the "helper spring" misunderstanding!
Yes, yes - and you're a bit late on the comment
@@JayEmmOnCars ooooohh!!
Have you heard about relativity? My comment was made immediately after I watched the video, what more can I do. I can't help how the algorithm works.
If you don't want any views after a few days of releasing your content, just tell us.
@@pjay3028 You could check the comments to see if dozens of others have already said the same thing
@@JayEmmOnCars and why exactly should I do that?
Is my comment less relevant than the "dozens" of others making the same point?
Have you taken to task everyone else who made this comment, apart from the first one?
Do you understand what TH-cam is about?
My comment wasn't even directed at you, it was really intended for anyone else who has the misfortune to be recommended that video. So I would appreciate it if YOU would butt out of MY opinions.
@@pjay3028 I've got a vague idea about how TH-cam works, yes.
I also now have a vague idea how helper springs work - thanks to some other commenters who pointed out to me the difference between them and tender springs, which I expect was the source of the confusion. Even some of the guys at Porsche mix them up.
In the time you have taken to just complain, you could have helped somebody else understand.
I never get the "oh my god you got that wrong" comments which fail to provide the correct answer.
I love this and love this car, the way it sounds is awesome! Problem is I'm a) Never likely to afford one anytime soon and b) too tall for 911's :-(
One of these with a proper exhaust 😍
Correct - straight pipe - no exhaust
The ONLY think I don't like about mine is the fact that they didn't hinged the rear window like a hatch so I could more easily load/unload stuff behind the carbon buckets. How hard would that have been Porsche?
What a car , i love these.
997.2 GT3 RS please
And 360 Modena but i hear that is already in the works..
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