Super Mario 74 from the Creator's Perspective: Behind the Scenes & Rating every level
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- A deep look behind the curtains of Super Mario 74:
The original level models for each level, as well as all the sketches I still have.
Enjoy!
History of SM64 Hacking by Snooplax: • Rom Hacking Progressio...
Testlevel gameplay: • SM64 Hacking Testlevel
Timestamps:
0:00:00 Intro
0:01:11 History of SM64 Hacking
0:05:03 Sketches
0:05:35 Overworld 1
0:10:02 Dice Fortress
0:14:01 Skyward Slopes
0:15:57 Azure Abyss
0:18:32 Green Switch Palace
0:19:53 Bowser's Badlands Battlefield
0:20:54 Overworld 2
0:22:37 System of a Town
0:25:41 Haunted Factory
0:27:24 Red Switch Palace
0:28:22 Blue Switch Palace
0:29:12 Frozen Slide
0:29:58 Stalagmite Cave
0:31:11 Icecrystal Tower
0:31:40 Overheating Oasis
0:32:51 Flowery Gardens
0:33:45 Bowser's Aquatic Castle
0:34:58 Overworld 3
0:35:52 Champion's Challenge
0:36:34 Swampy Spring
0:40:03 Sunny Beach
0:42:18 Cliff of Wrath
0:43:05 Molten Treasure Chest
0:44:42 Luminium Sphere
0:49:48 Ombru Sphere
0:54:13 Bowser's Crystal Palace
1:00:14 Bonus & Outro
Man, this took forever to make. - เกม
What I really love about SM74 is the focus on skills rather than gfx. Yes, it looks simple compared to new hacks, but I find that a most of the newer hacks have far too large levels where you just end up running around aimlessly forever trying to find stuff. This is not fun in my view. In SM74, the levels are small, but the tasks are challenging, fun and engaging. It's about mastering the skill required for whatever trick/move necessary to reach something and this turns you into a better player and it is this act of mastering the game mechanics that is so satisfying. Not running forever in empty spaces looking for stuff. The sphere levels in particular, however difficult, I found very enjoyable to master. Other favorites of mine were haunted factory, flowery gardens and cliff of wrath.
This is also why, after all these years, SM74 remains my favorite hack and I find myself return to it time and time again. You have an incredible talent for game design in my opinion and I hope you will make a new game one day.
My only complaints about this game is the camera which can be quite bad at times. And also the game before fixed warps was insufferable.
I will also admit that when I first played SM74 I didn't like it that much, I was too inexperienced to fully enjoy it. It's a bit like how I feel about SM74EE now. Just a little too hard to be fun. But with experience I've grown to love SM74.
Thank you for making this hack, it has given me a lot of joy over the years. It was interesting to learn about your thought process during creation of this game.
Thank you for the kind words. :)
I agree that large levels tend to feel empty and consist of a lot of boring running (I think I said that during the Dice Fortress section). While I wouldn't really call the game design in SM74 "great" (there's at least one larger flaw in every level), I guess it's good enough to be enjoyable. As for the camera / warps: Yeah, those sucked, but I didn't have the ability to change it. Good thing that others patched it.
The level of humility when you admitted that Skelux's hack was objectively better is astounding, you have grown into a very mature person :) both yours and Skelux's hack are amazing pioneering work, and very enjoyable to play to this day. Thanks for everything man
Thanks for the kind words :)
This was a great video Mario 74 was the first rom hack of Mario 64 that I've played so it was very cool to see how it was made and your thoughts
Really? That is very cool. :D I really enjoy your Break the targets videos. ^.^
Really interesting stuff. Super Mario 74 and Super Mario Star Road lifted me out of my depression during that period and were what inspired me to pursue level design. For years I experimented with hacking SM64 before eventually branching out to modding A Hat in Time. Shortly afterward, by some miracle, the developers of that game officially accepted a level I had made for a contest, winning 3rd place. So yeah; I wouldn't be anywhere without those early ROM hacks.
Wow, really? That is fantastic to hear! That alone makes it worthwhile to have made the hack. Thanks for sharing your story.
Watching this video was an absolute blast, thank you so much for making this! I hold SM74 very close to my heart even to this day as it was the first hack I've ever played and the reason I got myself PJ64 in the first place. I do a 100% run of this game pretty much every year and watching this made me want to start my 2020 run.
While I understand your criticism for the first few levels I really wouldn't call them too hard as the missions were very skill-building and prepared you well for what is to come later down the route. I would say that this hack is what built my SM64 skills the most with the extreme edition reinforcing them further.
SM74 is gonna stay my favorite SM64 for it's focus on gameplay over visuals and for me personally the difficulty is set just right (with a few minor hiccups like the 100 coins in course 11).
If you can find the time to make a similar video for the extreme edition I will definitely watch it. I know this sounds a bit cheesy but I always get happy when I see you uploaded a new video despite your time being fairly limited these days. I hope everything is going smoothly in your life! c:
That's so nice of you to say. Thank you. :)
@@Lugmillord You are more than welcome, can't wait to see your next video, whenever that's gonna be :)
Do you have a favorite level? Or least favorite? Any questions about the behind the scenes stuff? Let me know in the comments. I hope you'll enjoy this video.
You remember Kaze and his first ever rom hacks? he had pretty poorly made rom hacks for his first goes at rom hacking but I think from observing his insane rom hacks these days, that he may have been doing experimental stuff with rom hacking stuff, so he may have not made bad rom hacks to begin with, he was probably testing rooming some of his creations, cause this guy know how to freaking rescript the games binary hex values
@@StickFiguresMaster Yeah, a lot of his experiments were at the direct code level, so that's really tough to get into. You have to start somewhere.
Hey Lugmillord! Been playing hacks for around a year and my first ever one was 74 and it still remains one of my favorites to this day (I also like EE but not as much lol). I think my personal favorite levels in both games were the spheres and they were pulled off so thematically well that I was astounded when I found out that this game was the first ever "major" hack. If I had to pick a least favorite, I'd choose EE c5, which is so bad that it trumps all mediocre stages in 74 so much that I couldn't even choose a bad 74 level compared to drowned factory LUL. Nonetheless, thank a lot for making this hack and this video, it still holds up so well today, and kudos for being a huge part of hack history.
@@solodude3937 Haha, yeah, I learned the hard way that it's very challenging to make a fun water level in SM64. Guess I never succeeded in that department ;)
Also, you have my kudos for being the single biggest influence on extreme hacks. I know a lot of people hate them but I personally love them and regardless on your stance about EE, it did bring light to some of the coolest hacks I've ever played, Like Treasure World, KBR2, and KBRX.
I thought it was amusing when you called some stuff in the earlier levels “too hard” because SM74 was the first hack I ever played and I don’t remember struggling that much on the earlier levels. I stopped playing it when I really started to struggle to make progress at the end of the third overworld. It made me feel a bit better when you mentioned two stars that I got stuck on: Sunny Beach 100 coins and that one final level star where you have to fit through small gap in the lava, but I also got stuck on Ombru Sphere star 5 (you said Luminium Sphere star 5 was one of the hardest so you might have been saying the same for Ombru star 5 but idk). I might get back into the hack and try to finish it soon. In my opinion, SM74 is a nice middle ground (or even a bridge) in between casual and extreme hacks and that’s why I like it. Also yes please make a part 2 for SM74EE although you can probably make it a bit shorter since most levels only have minor differences.
You probably mean Ombru's star 4 which is sort of the upside down version of the bottomless fortress. Yeah, that's probably Ombru's hardest star (either that or reds).
Lugmillord oh yeah. Could’ve sworn it was star 5. I also did do the reds and 100 coins
@@blockygamez9389 Ombru star 5 was Flight for Sight ;)
This video is really nice, Its great to see your own comments on these levels. I might add, as someone that’s playing through 74 and 74EE in 2020 for the first time, they really both hold up super well, and i’m having a blast with both! ive seen this sentiment across other comments as well and yeah, i really prefer 74 to star road, i feel like the way you designed the levels is so much more enjoyable to just play through. and about 74EE, as my first kaizo hack, it really has a nice difficulty curve with the beginning stages being challenging, but still very enjoyable to play through, and the later ones giving a real challenge that feels AMAZING to overcome after so long. The only stage where I wasn’t having fun for a bit was melting icecrystal, but aside that EE is fantastic as well. anyway, this marks the end of this very rambly comment where i went off on multiple tangents, but thanks anyway, you made some great hacks ESPECIALLY for the standards of 9 years ago.
this bts is awesome. could watch hours of this
Glad you liked it :)
@@Lugmillord Is it possible to give out the original crystal palace i just love that one friend it is beautiful
Pro trick: you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies lately.
@Waylon Forest yea, I have been watching on Flixzone for years myself =)
“When you compare them to todays standards they are rather crappy and primitive” *literally an S-tier hack and one of if not the best sm64 hacks*
Great video! I would be very interested in a similar one talking about 74EE, covering the difficulty of the various level sections and the speedrunning strats developed over time to pass / bypass them from the developer's point of view.
Great to see content from you again. Your old hacking tutorial got me into the whole hacking thing. I know, it's super outdated but extremely inspiring! Thx for being my inspiration!
Thanks for the kind words :)
überraschendes Video. Ich spiele zufällig gerade wieder SM74 und was soll ich sagen, nach all den Jahren immer noch der beste SM64 Hack den es imo je gegeben hat ^^ der Schwierigkeitsgrad ist einfach genial, (Als ich es zum ersten Mal durchgespielt hab, hatte ich gar keine SM64 Erfahrung abgesehen vom normalen Spiel und trotzdem hat mich das Spiel motiviert jeden einzelnen Stern zu probieren und zu probieren bis es irgendwann mal funktioniert hat. Hab bis heute keinen einzigen Savestate jemals irgendwo gesetzt :) Und die letzten Welten zu beenden hat sich jedes Mal wie so ein großes Erfolgserlebnis angefühlt.) das Leveldesign ist genial (Luminium Sphere immer noch mein Alltime favourite, das Level schafft so eine gute Atmosphäre), und nicht zuletzt ist das Gameplay einfach perfekt auf Marios Movement angepasst ist und dadurch fühlt sich das Durchspielen auch beim 10. Mal einfach angenehm an. (Ich weiß nicht ob es vllt auch an den limitierten Möglichkeiten von damals liegt, aber was ich am meisten im Vergleich zu anderen Hacks schätze, ist, dass es sich primär so anfühlt als wären die Level um Mario herum gebaut worden und nicht Mario in vorgefertige Level hineingesetzt worden, die beengend sind und Marios Fähigkeiten eher einschränken als fördern, wie es leider bei vielen anderen Hacks der Fall ist, am krassesten bei Last Impact.)
Also zusammengefasst: Beim ersten Mal durchspielen mega gute, motivierende, atmosphäre Herausforderung, beim 10. Mal durchspielen einfach entspannende Möglichkeit um abzuschalten und sich nebenbei Podcasts oder Dokus anzuschauen :) An der Stelle einfach von mir großes großes Lob für deine Arbeit und großes Danke für die nicen Stunden mit dem Game :)
Das freut mich, dass du so viel Spaß am Hack hast. :)
I love this romhack. This is one of my favorite hacks of SM64. Loved hearing about how you made it! Thanks for this video!
Glad you like it
I love that you come back 9 years later to give your thoughts!
I was suddenly in the mood to do that.
When I saw your latest hack name I suspected that it's from you, but when I saw its truly from you I was positively surprised. Sm74 was the first n64 game which I played on emulator. Idk how I found it, but it's just so nostalgic for me. It's dated, but with the better camera and warp fixes it's still enjoyable to this day, but that also might be due to nostalgic reasons.
Thanks again for creating the hacks and for your lets plays. You was one of the lets players who I watched the most around 2012.
Also I was impressed back then how good you was at sm64. Motivated me playing it more and was one of my introductions to speedrunning. So yeah many nostalgic things which had some connections with you.
Thanks for sharing this, it was really interesting to hear your own thoughts about the levels. I got nostalgic considering I played this game about 7 years ago. A few of the design quirks you criticise I found to be pretty charming. The flat ground sections aren't the most imaginative but I like the "homebrew" feel of it all, and knowing a single fan made it rather than a professional team. I think the difficulty of the hack for the most part was really good, with the only exceptions being the sphere courses at the end which essentially felt more like extreme edition levels of difficulty. Speaking of the sphere courses, I always thought their concept was so cool. That's probably what kept me motivated to beat them 🙂. I think the only thing I felt was frustrating was the insane hiding place of the 151st star. I'm pretty sure I had to look up how to find as a last resort.
Thanks for the kind words! And yeah, I may have went a bit overboard with that last star.
Really loved seeing this, definitely inspires me to potentially make my own hack someday, I’ve already wanted to do that, but seeing this gives me motivation! Also I love the unused bowser arenas, I’d love to see those in a future hack!
glad you liked the video :)
Cool video! It’s great to see all that behind the scenes stuff about this hack.
SM74 was the hack that taught me most of my SM64 skills I have now. When I first played it in December 2011, I found it very hard and it took me more than 3 months to complete it, even with using safestates in my first playthrough for the 100 coins in C11 and in C13-15 and B3 (I lost the ambition to complete it „savestatesless“ on star 6 in C13) .
But I really enjoyed the hack and it still remains one of my fave hacks of all times. Even though the levels might seem a bit flat and empty, I really liked your ideas of platforming (especially C5, C12 and C14-15) and the challenge it was to 100% the hack without using safestates. It was and still is pretty hard but never frustrating or tedious imo.
I really hoped for a sequel that is made in the same style as this game but that never happend unfortunately.
But now I‘m very excited for your new hack! Can‘t wait to get to play it^^
Thanks for the kind words. :)
5:16 5:25 5:34 I love how he showed Toxic Terrace AND Lake of the Lords in a SM74 video
Ach ja, ich liebe solchen Behind The Scenes Stuff. Deine damaligen Videos hatten mich ja auch dazu inspiriert gehabt, selber mal an nem kleinen Projekt zu arbeiten. Auch wenn es zu dem Zeitpunkt bereits bessere Tools gab, war das ganze immer noch sehr frustrierend, weil halt nicht immer alles so läuft, wie man es gerne hätte (in meinem Fall insbesondere: Lava wollte nicht immer wie ich sie gern gehabt hätte). Naja, das Projekt wurde aus Zeitgründen nie ansatzweise fertig, aber der Flugkappenschalter war super und es war trotzdem ein unterhaltsames Projekt).
Zu Super Mario 74 war mein Lieblingslevel die Zornesklippe mit der Luminospähre auf der #2. Ich liebe bei letzterer insbesondere die Drehgeschichte, auch wenn ich das Original am besten finde. Wenn es nicht Limitationen gebe wäre eventuell auch eine gemischte Version, bei der man in der Stage wechseln könnte, super. Aber wir wollen SM64 mal nicht überstrapazieren.
Es ist interessant, wie beliebt die Zornesklippe zu sein scheint, aber da kann ich auch einfach zustimmen. Mir gefällt die auch.
Ich bin vor 10 Jahren auf Super Mario 74 durch Wiihawklp gestoßen und hab es vor 10 Jahren (da war ich 14 Jahre alt) gespielt und teilweise gesuchtet. Es hat meine Zeit früher viel besser gemacht. Danke dafür 🙌🏻
Gerne :D
This video was a very nice surprise, I really liked this background information of the first sm64 hack I ever played. I really enjoyed the hack, only a few stars were a little frustrating. The difficulty curve is a little wonky but you improved that in EE. I would really like to see a video like this about EE. That hack is very hard and challenging, but it is in my opinion one of the best designed hard sm64 hacks.
Thanks :) I also think that EE is better at being an extreme hack than the normal 74 is at being a "normal" hack.
Ohh, das ist eine tolle Idee
Also du hast eigentlich fast alle richtig, die du hättest wissen können. Die unused Sachen kann man natürlich im Vorfeld nicht wissen.
@@Lugmillord Oha, da bin ich mal gespannt! Wird sicher cool mal den ganzen Behind-the-Scenes-Stuff zu sehen!
My favorite Level is definitely Stalagmite Cave, really really good game design. My least favorite levels are probably Skyward Slopes and Azure Abyss, these are pretty dull compared to the rest of the game
Yeah, the early courses feel like they've been made in a day. ...which is actually true, haha.
I can't wait to see SM74EE behind the scenes!
cht schön mal wieder was von dir sehen, und das auch noch, nachdem ich erst wieder angefangen habe die alten LP's zu schauen. einige der Sachen hast du ja damals im LP schon gezeigt.
Meine lieblingslevel im hack wahren die Spheren und die Fabrik.
Das unterschreibe ich so direkt ;)
Hi lugmillord I have been a huge fan of yours since I started playing sm64 rom hacks a few months back. I can’t believe I did not hear about this video until now. I had some really fond memories of SM74 and even SM74 EE. Both were so challenging but rewarding. I remember when I finally got to triarc I wanted to cry after such a long journey. Anyways my favorite level in 74 is luminum sphere and my favorite in EE is Triarc Bridge.
Great job at reaching Triarc Bridge! It's supposed to be a reward so if you got that feeling, that's great! :D As for the video - it's very new, so no wonder you haven't heard of it earlier ;)
This was the second hack I played, after star road. It greatly improved my skills and all together it was very nice to play. Bad things do not neccesarily change my oppinion, especcially if they don't repeat too much throughout the game. I'll try to say something about a bunch of levels that I remember as good in some way.
-Devills dice, which I played before the normal edition, was a good transition from friendly to evil. First, I thought I couldn't obtain any star, so I needed to push myself to do it. I didn't notice the first floor also but as soon as I noticed that there should be something there, I immediately wanted to explore it.
-Vine thing (ee). I liked the atmosphere as a part of this extreme hack, and the close-yet-so-far-away-ness of the stars. In 74 it was a bit simple and out of place.
-Azure abyss. I mostly liked the small creek at the side. The most eye-catching part of deepred depths is just for idiots, but most of the shorter missions are fine.
-Toxic terrace, which I like because it's used in so many ways and the missions which are short but challenging.
-Bowsers beautiful backyard. I remember the walljump struggling while hearing the music as a good time, lol.
-Icecrystal tower. I really liked the climbing to the top.
-Lava cave. In 74 it was nice but it felt pretty normal, I think mostly due to the music. That changed in ee. The nusic got nicer and in one time, I felt very dependant on the developers choices, which was something to think about.
-System of a town. I could live with the bad underwater camera. The level was pretty nice to explore.
-Flower fields felt like dice fortress, but a bit better.
-The desert didn't feel as much as an actual desert as shifting sand land. Overgrown oasis felt more where it should be. It was nice to explore, though.
-I learnt important skills in the factory and it was nice to explore. I liked the closed atmosphere and music of drowned factory, but playing through the level was meh.
-The sphere levels are the best things I've ever seen in sm64 romhacks. They look as spectacular as intimidating, which truly fits for the last levels and gives something to think about. While playing through the levels, I enjoyed every single place (except where amps bothered me). First, I didn't recognise ombru as the upside down of luminium. For me, it was just the same style but drawn and themed differently. That lasted until I saw the upside down cube. The same went for veneno and crudelo, I just couldn't believe that they were all the same 3d model. I'm impressed about how everything fits so nicely for all the orientations to be possible. Did you draw every detail with that in mind? The last 2 orientations are in lost universe 1.5 kappowsers legacy and they work pretty good for skilled players.
-I still haven't spoken to the bob omb in crystal palace, but until the shield it was hard but awesome to play. The music, style and theme nicely fit together.
Conclusion: I think this hack is very adventurous, educational and good for how it is. It's defenitely one of my favourite hacks, also for today's standards. I look forward to project 74, a 60 fps version of your game (pc port if that will happen) and to a bts video of extreme edition
Thank you very much for the long comment and your thoughts on the levels! It's really funny how people either think the spheres are the best levels of the hack or the absolute worst. Pretty polarising.
As for the design process, I only thought of the two "base" rotations (Luminium / Ombru) and when I came to the EE spheres I just looked at the 4 remaining rotations and took what seemed to be best suited and requires the least adjustments to work. Really, that decision was quite easy though. Two had a nice S-shaped path from bottom to top (or something close) and two didn't, so yeah, that was a no-brainer.
id love to se an extreme edition behind the scenes video
I will watch the video later, but as a big fan of 74 and 74EE I'm excited to watch this ^_^
I hope you'll like it :)
I remember SM74 as THE first major SM64 hack, I still have Demo 2 laying around somewhere on my drive. The new, modern hacks are amazing, but 74 will always hold a special place in my heard, taking me back to the good, ol' times!
After The Missing Stars, it kinda was. Thank you for the kind words. :)
Man I felt your comment about the size limiations of old levels. I did my hack (that I will hopefully release after years of doing nothing) on older versions of SM64 Editor as well and most areas were designsed with that 8192x8192 units limiation in mind. And I agree that smaller levels are way better than oversized ones.
Timestamps for anyone on mobile:
0:00:00 Intro
0:01:11 History of SM64 Hacking
0:05:03 Sketches
0:05:35 Overworld 1
0:10:02 Dice Fortress
0:14:01 Skyward Slopes
0:15:57 Azure Abyss
0:18:32 Green Switch Palace
0:19:53 Bowser's Badlands Battlefield
0:20:54 Overworld 2
0:22:37 System of a Town
0:25:41 Haunted Factory
0:27:24 Red Switch Palace
0:28:22 Blue Switch Palace
0:29:12 Frozen Slide
0:29:58 Stalagmite Cave
0:31:11 Icecrystal Tower
0:31:40 Overheating Oasis
0:32:51 Flowery Gardens
0:33:45 Bowser's Aquatic Castle
0:34:58 Overworld 3
0:35:52 Champion's Challenge
0:36:34 Swampy Spring
0:40:03 Sunny Beach
0:42:18 Cliff of Wrath
0:43:05 Molten Treasure Chest
0:44:42 Luminium Sphere
0:49:48 Ombru Sphere
0:54:13 Bowser's Crystal Palace
1:00:14 Bonus & Outro
I would love to see a video like this for Extreme Edition! It would especially be cool to see what you really intended the player to do in Ztar Zanctuary. The sign mentions something about 30 red coins across the whole level and that sounds completely insane!
Yeah, ZZ would definitely be harder than Crudelo if it wasn't for the limitations that forced me to put the interior under the quick sand pit. As for the 30 coins - since I never had the chance to start placing them, there is no actual planned layout for them.
@@Lugmillord I actually tried to emulate what an intended ZZ would be like for a challenge.
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Can confirm it would have been much harder than crudelo lol
I'm completely with you on factory levels. Industrial levels in general are awesome:)
Grunty Industries is the best level in Banjo Tooie 😊.
Thanks for this in depth review of the design process for your infamous hack. The Extreme version is great too!
Thanks! I also really like Grunty Industries. Probably my second favorite after Hailfire Peaks.
@@Lugmillord Nice :) HP is probably my third favorite after GI and Witchyworld :)
I don't know if you would want to, or if you even have the time nowadays, but I would love a new hack from you now that you're looking back a bit more critically.
Great video too, BTW. Would love to see you go over some of the Extreme Edition levels (especially the completely original stages, such as the metal cap stage).
Well, wait a couple of weeks and at least one of your wishes should come true ;)
@@Lugmillord Sweet! :)
Hey Lugmillord! How has it been? Really liked the video! This is a timeless classic in the SM64 romhacking history. I don't have a personal favorite but to all the preference coming from the community I'd say the Sphere levels, rating in this order: Ombru > Luminium < Veneno > Crudelo.
I have to agree the major issues that hit this game was the camera control and the backtrack climb from the overworlds when you die and get a star, oh and not to mention, the Sunny Beach coins. Despite those, it has its own feel and identity and this is why it remains part of my likelihood with Missing Stars and a couple old-timer TT64 hacks. Also ever consider to make a comeback with a hack different to SM74 or do you think the community must follow its legacy to learn how to make a custom level?
While I'm at it, I'd like to give you the time to announce that I'm actually developing a quite "unofficial" sequel to Super Mario 74 which fuses both details between the original and Extreme Edition (per the models you showcased). As I've already started last week, I rather have you as the original creator to give me the seal of approval to the concept and I want to pay you my respects as it hits the decade since the demo release/previews. If yes, then look forward to it along the Project 74 Redone which is a different perspective of what mine is going for by far! Dev livestreams are in my Twitch channel if you are interested. :)
I definitely agree on Veneno > Crudelo.
As for you hack idea, well, go for it I guess. Up to this point so many people wanted to remake 74 but so far none has completed anything, with Project 74 being seemingly the farthest. Personally I have no issue with several hacks in development, but I think you should at least ask the Project 74 guys if they are fine with you doing your own thing.
As for what I'm up to... let's just say you should keep an eye out in the next weeks. that's all I'm gonna say.
Nice! Also don't worry, the PJ74 team is already aware of what I'm up to and I can't wait for their recreation because we are part of the community. My idea is that the game takes place in the future after EE and the world is slowly restored with changes Mario did not expect so he's investigating what could possibly alter it behind the scenes... I've got a couple themes and ideas you want to see, if not for the technical difficulties encountered back then but thanksfully the ROM Manager is here to grant these, such as custom Bowser fights and new parallel camera. People like CartoonBuffoon were curious about my project but as long as I get a few done, I'll show a sneak peek.
@@LinCrash Custom Bowser fights are possible now? :O Tell me more...
@@Lugmillord It is. At first when Star Road came out, the thought of having a new Bowser fight was amazing but the functionality to have Bowser in multiple fights didn't work for everybody, just up until Star Revenge (starting with Night of Doom) pulled this off with a gimmick of using other bosses. Things changed and you can use Bowser and bosses of any choice to fit into the kind of fight stage imaginable.
The Sphere Levels, oh boy, I just did them yesterday and today, a world a day, but the thing is, I'm doing a Let's Play, but 3 years prior, I recall using a bunch of Save States, I believe because I remember the Lava level prior having some finicky Flight you have to do, which I thought was annoying, but today I'm not sure if I had used more Save States before Molten Treasure Chest.
But the thing is, I thought I needed to practice for Luminium-Sphere, but I haven't for 3 years, nor did I really played SM64 that much, so because I wanted this Let's Play to be done with, I decided to go in raw, as I thought I would need Save States regardless of if I practiced, but no... I tried to go as far as I could without them, and yeah, I managed to do both Luminium and Ombru-Spheres without ANY Save States, at least outside of praciticing some complicated parts, and I even broke all the Empty ! Boxes along the way. I was incredibly surprised I managed to pull it off, especially since I left it on the backburner during all this time due to these levels (I had watched another person play it).
So, I think I've come to really appreciate the challenge aspect of the Sphere Worlds, they were hard, but while I'm not going to say all Stars were fun, well I did got a good amount of fun out of these, and despite all hardship, getting all of their 7 Stars, I was very satisfied. I'm starting to think this feeling of accomplishment and personal growth as a gamer was what you may've been looking for with these, so *Thumbs Up*.
Although, if I managed to do the Spheres without Save States, I gotta wonder why I did for the previous Levels, it just about makes me want to scratch my Let's Play so far that I've started in 2015 or so...
Congrats! That sounds like a (mostly) positive experience. And it's always a nice feeling when you improve, isn't it? :)
@@Lugmillord Yeah exactly, I really like seeing myself improve, which I believe is a feeling not many people look for these days, heck that feeling is maybe one of the key reasons I truly like video games since I almost left them at some point, I prefer stuff that values my time with newfound skill, like Dark Souls; of course I was a newbie at that series at first, but nowadays, I struggle to even get a challenge, even using the Hollow Soldier Set, I could beat every bosses on the 1st or 3rd Try, but I was left hungry for more.
I will admit I did got angry during my SM74 Let's Play, in the past days of recording, but I keep coming back, so I guess there's something I like? Could just be my competitive spirit that makes me angry, but even then, I still like overcoming the hurdles I've set on myself, it's been somewhat of a driving force for me for 8 years, and I'll try to keep in mind the age of the Hack, especially since I saw your Analysis on Extreme Hacks, that video gave me some more insight on the subject.
Auf jeden Fall einer meiner Lieblingshacks. Hab damals die zweite Demo davon gespielt und dann sehnsüchtig auf die full Version gewartet.
Ui, quasi ein Fan von Day 1. Freut mich :)
@@Lugmillord Jep, die Demo hatte glaube ich 100 Sterne. Und das Oberwelt-Theme war die File Select-Musik von SM64 soweit ich mich noch erinnern kann. :D
@@weegeesoul Ja, die zweite Demo hatte 100. Bei der ersten wüsste ich es gar nicht mehr. Etwas unter 50, meine ich.
With today's most recent rom hacking technology, do you think can pull off a Zelda OOT rom hack instead of a Mario rom hack? If you don't have the busy schedule, I could see you pulling it off! And I need to download this to add to my backlog. Been wanting to play this myself 😁👍
"could" yes, but the time investment is too high. However, I have something else brewing up. Keep an eye out in the next weeks.
@@Lugmillord Makes sense and to add on to it, I think it would take a extended amount of more time than any other Mario hack. I'll drop a sub for you buddy 😁👏
That was the sickest rom hack I have ever seen.
Thank you for the fifth sphere rotation may we hope for the final one to complete the collection
and star one is now in every 5 sphere levels
@ammon home where
ah i see he finally made a new one
a hardmode of it
the only direction left is diagonally
Hey, hab mir gerade das ganze Video angesehen, weil Rüdiger es im Communitytab gepostet hat - coole Sache auf jeden Fall, feier ich auf jeden Fall, wenn Developer solche Videos machen (+ das fühl, wenn ich mal ebenfalls so was gebastelt hatte ohne aber das Level jemals zu releasen geschweige denn zu testen, weswegen es nur die untexturierte TH-camfootage gibt ^^).
Möchte eine Sache loswerden und zwar, dass du dich wirklich unter dem Wert verkaufst, wenn du meinst, dass deine Level definitiv nicht mit heutigen Leveln konkurrieren können - da widerspreche ich vehement!
Natürlich ist heutzutage mehr möglich, denke du kennst da auch meine Meinungen zu Hacks, die ein gewisser Herr gespielt hat und optisch geht immer besser, allerdings sehe ich es auch eher wie du, dass mir dieser Diorama-Look, sprich ein eher kompakter Level eher gefällt als sagen wir unnötig große Level.
Das schönste Beispiel war da für mich "Super Mario 64 & Planet Stardust's Rampage", wo mir die Oberwelt echt gut gefallen hatte, die Ideen hier und da ganz nett waren, aber die Level einfach viel zu überdimensional groß und flach waren, dass ich mich echt gefragt hatte, was der Hackersteller teilweise geraucht hatte. Klar ist die Grundidee nett, in der Praxis aber sorgt es nur dafür, dass man 10 Minuten lang nach einem Stern sucht, der normalerweise 3 Minuten dauern sollte, wenn man halbwegs gut spielt. Wollte dem Hack eine Chance geben, hab aber ab der Mitte aufgehört und realisiert, dass es gut war, dass ich den Hack nur privat für mich in meiner Freizeit gespielt habe und nicht als LP-Projekt. ^^
Deswegen kompakter mit Fokus auf Jump'n'Run-Passagen gefällt mir besser.
Zwar hat 74 viele Leveldesigns, wo ich auch nicht zwingend sagen würde, dass man die heutzutage übernehmen sollte, prinzipiell mag ich aber viele der Orginalideen.
Sei das die Grundidee hinter Ice-Crystal Tower,
die Haunted Factory, welche auch von der Umsetzung cool war,
Cliff of Wrath, wo ich den Level schon alleine vom Aufbau in Kombination mit den Boos feiere
oder Swamp Spring, welches optisch mein absoluter Lieblingslevel ist, weil er sich visuell von vielen Mario Hack-Leveln heutzutage dennoch abhebt.
Von Luminium/Ombru-Sphäre ganz zu schweigen!
(Plus ich mag den Namen Schmelztiegeltresor - alleine deshalb war ich auch neugierig auf den Level damals bei Rüdigers Projekt, weil ich gehofft hatte, dass da noch irgendwo wirklich ein Tresor drin vorkommt xD)
Klar, natürlich haben da Kaze und BroDute visuell ebenfalls einiges hingelegt in den Jahren danach, von Skelux ganz zu schweigen, aber ich denke durchaus, dass deine Ideen ebenfalls Berechtigung haben und Super Mario 74 sich seinen Platz in der Hackinggeschichte als populärer Hack durchaus verdient gemacht hat. Selbst wenn nicht alles perfekt war, bedenke immer dass du deinen Hack umgesetzt hast im Gegensatz zu vielen anderen und dass du viele tolle Ideen hattest + das man auch deine Designphilosophie trotz knackiger Sprungpassagen dennoch auch als Zuschauer nachvollziehen konnte.
Von daher, ich hab Super Mario 74 in guter Erinnerung, werde leicht nostalgisch bei diesem tollen Behind-the-Scenes-Video und hoffe auch in Zukunft, dass wir noch tolle Projekte von dir sehen werden, egal ob Hack oder richtiges Spiel (weiß ja noch, dass du damals das eine Spiel gemacht hattest mit dem Hasen ^^). Deshalb, werde dich da eh auf dem Radar behalten, selbst wenn ich zugegebenermaßen nicht immer bei dir vorbeischaue.
Aber Lugmillord, Klügerlord, Wandsprunglord, Winkellord - oder wie viele Namen du auch immer damals im Projekt erhalten hattest - wird stets ein Begriff für mich sein und ebenso Super Mario 74.
Weil das war das erste Projekt worüber ich Matze und Rüdiger kennen lernen durfte. ^-^
Das sind wirklich sehr nette Worte. Danke für den lieben Kommentar. Auch wenn ich trotzdem recht kritisch auf so manches in SM74 schaue (der Macher ist ja bekanntlich sein schlimmster Kritiker), gerade auch weil mein Verständnis von Gamedesign in den letzten fast 10 Jahren deutlich besser geworden ist, so scheint es ja genug Leute zu geben, die noch Spaß damit haben und das ist wirklich schön.
Achja... und rechne dieses Wochenende (vermutlich) mal mit einer größeren Überraschung von mir. ;)
@@Lugmillord Oh, da bin ich mal gespannt. :3
Und ja, das mit Gamedesign kenn ich. Hab selbst da leider mehr Ideen als ich umsetzen kann, weswegen ich mich auch lieber auf das fokusiere, was ich kann: Nämlich das Schreiben.
Daher, falls du weiterhin noch SM64-Hacks machst und Ideen brauchst, kann dir theoretisch meine damaligen Ansätze und Konzepte schreiben. Ist zwar nicht super viel, aber vielleicht auch ganz interessant für dich.
@@EmperorFawful Sorry, aber was Ideen anbelangt, habe ich immer schon zu viele. ;)
@@Lugmillord Okay, kein Ding ^.^
@Lugmillord Is it possible to give out the original crystal palace on sketup i just love that one friend it is beautiful your hacks are the best ones.
The star doors in overworld 3 are actually not glitched somehow on Wii VC
It would be great if you could reduce the tri count on some of the bigger levels so that they run better on N64 but I understand that would be a pretty big effort, especially if you don't have the toad's tool file.
Hope you do a video on the 74EE levels as well.
just thank you
Considering you're being very harsh on some stuff here, do you have any plans on making a sort of definitive edition of Super Mario 74?
No, but if the team behind Project 74 ever manages to finish their hack, then that's probably what you would like to see.
Oh sorry, I extracted the Stone Tower mid.
This was one of the first hacks I have ever played‚ and I really liked it.
Edit : please make a similar video for 74EE!
also for that secret unused room in overworld 3 there is a warp pipe where would that pipe
lead to?
it brings you to the level exit warp on that overworld. I originally wanted star 151 to be there, but normal stars freeze on overworld maps. So I put it under Champions' Challenge and forgot that secret room.
Fun fact: the sphere levels names is in latin because the spheres are like a church and the churchs was create in the vatican
Luminium=light or luz
Ombru=shadow or sombra
Veneno=veneno or poison
Crudelo=cruel
Sorry for my english because im from argentina
Cliff of Wrath just felt awesome to play, both with its climb and its challenges! Somehow I found Luminium kinda uninviting with its beige wall textures, down music, and unclear directions - and if I hadn't been playing on the parallel cam patch that probably would have been a problem as well
Cliff of Wrath is nice level, yes. It's interesting how much the opinions on the spheres differ. You definitely have a point there with the unclear directions. Navigating the level is pretty difficult.
@@Lugmillord I'm mostly comparing the level with Sky High Castle, which also has hard platforming challenges and a castle theme, but executes on that with happy colours, happy music, and clear split paths
The thing I don't understand is why do you have do backtrack into overworld 1 to get stages 6, 7 and 8 (9 in 74ee).
The original hubworld layout was supposed to be different but there were issues so I had to change it.
Oh okay
I want the final 2 rotations of the sphere levels... i am obsessed
with modifications to make it possible
Also models?
I wonder if you could make a minihack showcasing the final two spheres and a proper ztar zanctuary(not split up)
I gave the idea a cool name Sm74 FINALE FRENZY
You are in luck: I just released a new hack a couple of days ago, which has a 5th sphere as a completion bonus. Check out my newest video.
Yo man. I recently finished Super Mario 74. I got to say. Despite the frustration in the final part of the game and some stars being really hard to find, I did quite enjoy it. I could blame my lack of skills and my inexperience in speedrunning tricks to traverse, but I still find the endgame (especially the last two levels) to be Kaizo level difficult. As a result, despite enjoying the hack overall, the endgame left a super sour taste in my mouth. I find the presentation to be super dated by modern ROM hacks standards, but since they were limitations especially back in 2011, I can understand that. I'm sure if you were to remake the game today with brand new textures and rebalance the difficulty, this ROM hack will be amazing. I can definitely see some stages being very pretty to look at with new textures such as Haunted Factory. :)
Glad you liked it despite its issues! I'm releasing a new hack this Saturday which has a much more moderate difficulty. Maybe that'll fit your taste!
@@Lugmillord I can't wait to try that out. Can't wait for it. :D
Also ich mochte die vereinzelten "viel zu schweren" Challenges in den frühen Leveln. Da wusste man gleich mit was man es zu tun bekommt. Nur die blauen Münzen in dem Strandlevel waren etwas zu arschig, an die erinnere ich mich noch im Speziellen :D Die Kurse 14 und 15 werden den meisten am Besten im Gedächtnis bleiben und sind auch meine favorite levels aus dem Hack, wobei Kurs 12 auch ganz oben mit dabei ist, der läuft glaube ich immer Gefahr im Schatten der Sphären zu verschwinden.
Würde mich über eine EE-Version des "Behind the Scenes" freuen das auf dem hier aufbaut und die Unterschiede nochmal hervorhebt^^
So wie ich die Kommentare verfolge, scheint die Zornesklippe nach den Sphären am beliebtesten zu sein. Und da kann ich auch nur zustimmen. Das ist ein echt nettes Level (nur in EE leider auf's Äußerste verschandelt...).
hey Lugmillord do you have the link to super Mario 74? I would really love to download it
Patch:
sites.google.com/view/supermario64romhacks/patch-downloads
How to apply the patch:
sites.google.com/view/supermario64romhacks/home
I'm trying to recreate Crudelo, but in light! (It's not gonna be hard like last time.)
I think the last 2 orientations of the Spheres are in Lost Universe 1.5, but probably modified a bit
Which level do you think that is?
@@Lugmillord course 14
@@galoomba5559 Hmm, I can't find a video of it.
Why did you scatter those empty yellow ! boxes in ombru sphere and in some parts of luminium sphere was that just to troll the player?
SM74 came with an achievements text file. Destroying the trash boxes were two of the achievements.
ohhh ok thanks
and wow ur very active
The rotation you said you didn't use when talking about Ombru Sphere is now a used rotation in your Diaroma hack, That level would be Levora Sphere
And the last rotation is Baratrok Sphere in Lug's Tiny Torture. So yes, in the end I did use all rotations.
@@Lugmillord Still gotta play Tiny Torture maybe ill go home and download it since I'm about to be finished with SM74 10 years after.
sorry, aber ich muss es auf deutsch machen. @Lugmillord wie wäre es 2021 zum 10 Jährigen Jubiläum mit der Super Mario 74 Original Edition. Den Leveln und Oberwelten so, wie diese ursprünglich geplant waren, jetzt wo die Limits weg sind?
Näh, das wäre mir zu viel Arbeit. :P
@@Lugmillord schade, ich kenne als Zuschauer noch die erste Version, bei der die Level noch in Peach Castle waren, das waren noch die guten Zeiten. Deswegen liebe ich den Hack auch so. Ich dachte aber auch, das außer der 2. Oberwelt es nicht so viel arbeit wäre
@@marcwidmayer8128 Hui, dann warst du ja von Anfang dabei. So ewig her das Ganze!
@@Lugmillord auf jeden Fall, das hatte mich auch dazu inspiriert selbst einen zu machen, nur hatte ich lange keinen Computer der genug Speicher hatte und später war es beruflich nicht möglich für mich
10:54 Intentional foreshadowing? :D
52:34 You showed Levora-Sphere
yep, but mirrored.
Is there a reason why you don’t make sm64 hacks anymore?
A) full time work -> little spare time
B) A surprise may be coming in the next weeks...
Bringt das hier viele Erinnerungen hoch. Letzten Endes war dieses Spiel schon ein großer Meilenstein in der Hacking Szene.
Ich wünschte, ich könne dir eine Menge Zeit und Geld geben, damit du ein Remake hiervon anfertigen könntest. Aber leider sind wir beiden nicht irgendwie Gott oder so und daher wird das leider nie möglich sein.
Wenn ich mich für ein Lieblinglevel entscheiden müsste,bin ich am schwanken zwischen der Hitzeschlag Oase und der Zornesklippe.
Geld brauche ich nicht, Zeit wäre aber schön. ;) Bzgl. Remake empfehle ich dir "Project 74" im Blick zu halten. Das ist eine Gruppe von Leuten, die an einem Remake basteln (das hoffentlich irgendwann auch mal fertig wird...). Hitzeschlag Oase und Zornesklippe sind auch eine gute Wahl.
And no, I'm not pouring quicksand on every single tower (The walls have to be quicksand so Mario dosen't get squished.
I think you're a bit harsh on yourself. I haven't played it, but from what I've seen and heard, it seems like the SM64 equivalent to Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels.
I really liked how the game constantly mocked you for being bad. It would just give you motivation to complete it at 100%. I guess it's an advantage of media made not for commercial purpose -you can't really sell something that mocks the consumer.
I still did the opposite in a recent hack to compensate, lol
Parent RNG didn't allow me to see whether you replied to my last statement (about level design stuff), could you reply it here?
Oh, I can't actually see it. I guess the chat stops working as soon as the video ends.
@@Lugmillord Yeah, I said something like "People still do things that really go against your extreme hack tips video (I admit I've been an offender), so I'd say that even with today's standards, there's still things to learn from SM74/EE's design"
@@ShiN3Star You know, the cool thing about hacking is that by using editors, people can try things out and get creative without the need of deep coding knowledge. Even when people don't follow my tips, I still encourage everyone to make hacks. Even if it doesn't turn out all that good, it's still a great learning experience. If someone watches my EE tips video after making a hack and then thinks "oh, yeah, I went against most of these suggestions", then there's a good chance, they'll do better in the next one. They aren't rules that you have to obey, but once you internalize them, I think you can make your hacks more enjoyable.
@@Lugmillord Yeah, I completely agree, but my point is that I think you'd really be able to help people improve their hacks' quality if you had the time, be it part of the tips you already gave, or some other bad design choices that you didn't mention.
@@ShiN3Star I guess that's true. There really would be so many things I'd like to do, but real life just doesn't let me sadly :/
I disagree with your idea that the early levels are "too hard", I found them very instructive, skill-building, and manageable compared to say SM64StarRevenge, and on a very good difficulty curve compared to Star Road
Also the high platform under the pillars to not lose all progress and then some is just way more inviting design than the floating platforms in Bob-omb Islands and the void in Sky Land Resort
From the idiot who voluntarily took course 7 to remake for that thing moving at the pace of a slug with codename PJ74: yes. I agree. ugly. Don't do Icecrystal Tower kids. (I did kinda expect to hear more about it, but I guess the level really is that basic in the end.)
Yeah, there really isn't much to say about it other than the Whomp battle is stupid and the level looks ugly xD
Im here to say
Idk if koopa the Cheater it's bugged but... The idiot gets stuck in te water the mdf
just restart the rom and he should work properly
@@Lugmillord it actually work
And i'm not happy
found bro in comment section
@@Cristian_Sub should be sis but ok
@@cluterin BRO
Can't thank you enough for this game my man i've put hours upon hours into it on PC before my laptop decided to give up on me. I continue to put hours and hours into it on console now a days, I'll never stop playing this game I wish someone would optimize it for console but we can't have everything maybe one day.
Wow, thank you. :) As for console optimization, sadly I don't have the knowledge to do that.