Buying your first Kiln (used or new)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
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hello Potter's, this has been a long request video for many of you were thinking about buying your very first kiln.
please pay attention to the time stamps at the beginning and throughout the video as they are very important for those of you who are looking for specific information. we talk about everything from the warning signs you should pay attention to when buying a used kiln, to things you will need to know before even thinking about getting a kiln, we go over different types and specs of kilns, and finally at the end of the video I will give you the suggestion that I would give most people who have the money, space, and time who are looking for a new beginners kiln. we are going to go over the majority of things you're going to need for buying your kiln and what you will need firstly to consider before bringing it into your house.
big shout outs go Jon the Potter, Tim see, Sue and Lindsey m Dillon for letting me use them as examples. all of their social media links will be posted down below here.
-side note: i see a few spelling errors in the vid but it took 14 hours to edit and 6 hours to render an upload. hopefully you are smart enough to figure out the missing letters ;)
- If you do not have a wheel or kiln you should watch this one first. ( buying your first wheel)
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Time stamps!
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skip hard talk 12:19
things you need first 12:24
buying a used kiln 20:02
types of kilns 29:01
looking at kiln specs 33:32
basic things I like in kilns 43:45
final suggestion 49:17
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This is why TH-cam is great. Nobody is trying to sell you anything (unless the video is sponsored) and they’re really just giving you their honest opinion.
You're on the good side of youtube. Everyone is selling something..
Lol
I am an electrician. You don't want to put a 100 Amp breaker on a piece of equipment that calls for a 90 Amp Brreaker. That's illegal and unsafe, in theroy. Equipment has a max rating for a reason. That being said, excellent video. Became a patreon supporter. Love the way you explain things.
I took ceramics in high school and see myself retiring and doing pottery but Covid has made me want to start now
Dang buddy , That was a mother load! 👍
As a barely college student I’m no where near buying my own kiln but this vid was great for my research and future planning
Have you gotten your kiln yet?
i would also like to know if youve gotten your kiln yet, and if not, are you close to getting it? ❤️
Hey thanks! I am just getting started and can not find a local class or a kiln available for time/ rent. Sooooo these videos are my class! I will begin to research test kilns or small kilns based on this video; yes I made it all the way through. So grateful that so many artists re willing to offer their knowledge for free; bless all of you!
I watched the whole thing and it was really interesting and well structured and not boring at all, thank you so much for the work and thought you put into this, the help you are providing is precious.
Thank you so much for this whole video!
safety first! i hope the electrical setup doesn't get in the way ..... posted 7 months ago ..... how's it coming along?
really appreciate this video man, as a hobbyist i needed to hear that hard talk and suggestion at the end.
You spelled model wrong.
( I got to it before you)
me: "I don't have the patience to watch movies. they're too long"
also me: watches this video in its entirety
I speed the language up .
Great video. I am so glad you made this. I have been doing ceramics for 15 years. I teach Ceramics so I have always had access to kilns. However, since covid hit I have not had access so now is the time and I am so excited. It really is going to change my artistic life.No more hauling pieces back and forth! I needed a video like this so my husband could watch it and understand everything I am saying to him, lol. He is super supportive and already knew we would have to upgrade our breaker box but this video was perfect in explaining why, what and how.
P.S. I do sculptural work so I could totally fill that big box kiln. But, until I win the lottery I will do with the KM1027! Have a great day.
you are such a cool genuine dude, the lesson was much appreciated
This video really helped me decide on which kiln to purchase thank you
This was an awesome video and very informative...And much appreciated, especially for someone like myself that basically followed the suggested "appropriate" flow of becoming a pottery artist or a working potter. Myself, I just purchased the Skutt KM-614 3 Model to start me off and running as I feel that I'm still a beginner. I also bought my wheel first, aprox. 6 months prior to the Kiln, and this was after attending pottery classes at my local community center. Thank you again and keeps these types of videos coming.
thanks so much for this! i've been researching for a few years now and had pretty much decided on the km-818 but your video makes me feel confident that it will best suit my needs.
I actually watched the video in its entirety. Great job very informative, and what I would put in the money at the very end of the video would be a nice dragon 🐉 head piece
Got my wheel 7 months ago after 6 months of in-studio classes and I’m still scared to even shop for a kiln even though I desperately want one lol this either confirmed that I wanna start small and manual my way to dedicated glory or that I’m weak in heart and have been saving my pennies for the pretty boi and shall have him Lmao
Bless this video is a blessing lol
Came back to say the body joke had me real life spit-take 😂
Thank you so much for making this video! It answered every single question I had about how to prepare before bringing one into my house.
Would it be possible for Lindsay and yourself to do a video showing how much fits in your kilns? It would be really great to show basic mugs and bowls and tests in the 1027 and 818 for comparison.
I took your advice and just bought my first kiln "as is" from facebook marketplace for $200.00 I ended up having to rewire the whole control box but that wasnt difficult and not expensive. Now it fires great and is a perfect size for my needs. :)
This video was sooooooooo helpful!!!! My community studio is not as flexible with their hours as I would like for them to be. It's not actually reasonable for me to expect them to be. But the bottom line for me is that THIS Potter is just getting "dirty" enough!
So, I'm looking into what it would take for me to buy a wheel, and a small kiln, to have it installed it into my house. I had no idea where to start. This video gave me a pretty good nudge in the right direction.
Thanks for all your hard work!
Omg...made me chuckle. I so appreciate your honesty in this video...and yes, I lasted through the "hard talk". I think it helped me to figure out my first step...so I'll research my needs a bit more and explore ALL options.
Thankyou so much for all the great info! Can't wait to check out your other video's. I've been doing alot of research and happen to stumbled onto this video. Best find yet. Thankyou again for the great info!
I rarely like videos but yours I might just subscribe.Thank You so much for giving a lot of IMPORTANT information very organized that I understand and extremely helpful I have all my info in just 1 video.
This was extremely helpful. Thank you so much.
Wow- this video was just what I needed to make a better choice. As for what would I put in the last kiln- my best guess is something of Voulkos sized- big and bold. That said I am going with the jewelry sized kiln because small is good in my apartment with only a balcony- worth the watch anyway because I might grow one day. A big thank you🙏.
New Hobbyist here - my local pottery studio is my kiln. :-) Hubby wants me to look into getting my own and so thanks to your wonderful video I'm thinking about the 818.... and as the wife of an Italian I can tell you with 100% certainty that he would consider putting a body in at least one of these. LOL!!!
Thanks for sharing this info about kilns! I used to take ceramics at school! It was fun! Ceramics class was my favorite class, you can make a huge sculpture in that big kiln, like those sculptures in the public parks.
Thank you that was excellent. I'm frustrated because I want to fire to cone 6 & my studio doesn't fire that high. So I was considering my own kiln. But......I will now chill for a while and get more experience. FYI.....I watched the entire video, no skipping!!!
Thanks so much for taking the time to make this long video. It's super informative and I learned a lot! 👊
Who's to say I can't put a smaller kiln in that giant kiln? Big brain moves here
Peepee poopoo. I found a functional manual kiln, with great brick, stand and new elements on Facebook marketplace for $40. I am nowhere ready to set up my garage/ electrical to use it but I knew I wouldn't find a deal like that again. So I bought it. I would try to make a giant planter.
Thank you so much for all your knowledge and experience you share! I’m learning so much from you!!
appreciate your directness/bluntness. very good info
me ignoring u trying to convince me to skip hard talk: 😴😴😴
Super professional video! Loved the outline at the beginning! Thank you!
Stayed til the end. Learned A LOT! Great job. Humorous. Worth watching. Liked. Saved. Thank u for putting this out!
Just bought my first used kiln and your video was so very helpful! Thanks so much.
I'd put a giant version of the sculptures I made this past year. I'd have to coil around a person sized space though..so basically a person. Just bought my first kiln, it's around the size of your recommendation, just an old kiln sitter baby. Looking forward to producing on my own schedule. Glad to hear I did all the steps you would have!
This is my recap of the video I’m taking in when buying my first kiln!
For kiln-
❤️Need a dedicated breaker, wired to the kiln
❤️Large ampage, can take up large amount of electricity to house while running
❤️need an amp breaker
❤️need a brand new plug to fit into wall for kiln
❤️needs to be 2 ft away from all walls and burnable substances
❤️ventilation systems in kilns helps but isn’t mandatory
❤️all kilns need a metal stand or 4-5 cinder blocks no kilns should be on the ground(fire hazard)
❤️broken springs in kilns doesn’t matter too much, but avoid kilns with cracks and huge amount of broken springs
❤️elements need to be tightly knit together not rusted and the bricks not falling apart inside but you can change the elements and it’s not too difficult
❤️make sure people aren’t covering the bottom of the kiln with a shelf to check for cracks
❤️thermocouple?
❤️kiln sitter?
❤️ask person to plug in kiln start it up put it on low for ten minutes or so, check for heating up noises of kiln starting up and buttons glowing. Really important
❤️Skutt kilns
❤️Olympic kilns
❤️Amaco kilns- standard
❤️kilns can keep top open with a metal thing for oxidising pottery otherwise use a brick to vent
❤️it’s not too expensive to do a load!
❤️experienced potter recommends the skutt KM 818 for beginners
❤️I don’t need a big kiln as a beginner
Thanks for all of the info! I have a wheel and have been looking into getting a kiln, the wiring and electrical were my biggest concerns, but I feel so much better about what questions to ask and how to prep the space for a kiln. Thanks again!
Super helpful and informative. Thank you!
This was so helpful thanks! I watched it in full, you are hilarious. I am buying my first kiln soon. I have taken years of pottery classes at various colleges, done studio work, and have some experience with kilns. I thought that this was very informational and I am hoping to get something like you are suggesting! Thanks!
Excellent video. You are a great teacher, full of great info and lots of humor. I like all your videos.
Practical advice. Researching and trying to figure out what to do with a used Skutt Kiln I inherited.
Recently got into Stained glass and considering getting a small kiln for firing and slumping but i def hit that romantic phase about stained glass and bought a $600 ring saw. dont get me wrong glad i bought it but I def bought it too early with the amount of experience i had working glass. Great tip!
Good Day,
I ordered a brand new Caldera XL test kiln. When I opened the packaging to inspect the kiln, I noticed it have some incomplete sealant between the floor and wall bricks. In addition, I noticed the lid had a chipped about 1"x0.5" and another minor chip. There was also a heating element kind of off-seated. When the vendor got back to me, they were saying this is normal, to be expected, and most seasoned potters would find these things cosmetic and can be easily sealed/repaired.
However as a customer of various products (stained glass to clothes to food), I can't find their explanation logical. I actually do quality for work and if a supplier would have shipped a part in that condition, I would reject it and then write the supplier up dinging their ratings. Then it was starting to sound as if, they were going about to hint that I could do the minor sealant repairs.
This is starting to sound/smell fishy, I wanted to get your opinion and thoughts. Is this really normal? Or is this just the result of poor packaging? Or are they trying to pull a fast one because I'm a novice?
I greatly appreciate all and any advice you have.
Truly appreciate this information. I started “playing” at a local pottery studio with my daughter and our other homeschool friends about 6 months ago. Am now obsessed and want my own setup. This is the first video I found that answered my ?’s and gave me a realistic idea of what it would take to have it. And yes, my husband is one of those who cringes at the idea of the electric bill so now I can give him all the stats and numbers he requires to be reasonable 😂
I’m a homeschool mama also! I did ceramics in college and then had a kid and kinda dropped off doing much for myself. But now my kiddo has a passion for ceramics, and I got back on that wheel (so to speak). Now we’re kindof outgrowing our classes and are ready to set up a studio here at home. This video answered all my questions and has me feeling confident-we’re looking at a used kiln tomorrow!
Real talk, This is how all product reviews should be! 🤣
Awesome info! Thank you💖. And yes I viewed the whole video. Maybe people that don’t use their turn signal😉
Ordered my 818 today. Thanks for reassuring my purchase decision. Not sure if it’s mentioned in another comment but one clarification-I talked to Skutt and a 40 amp breaker is recommended for the 818. It’s perhaps 15 dollars more to install including wiring.
Just finished watching this entire thing, so worth it. This was exactly the information I needed, wanted, and didn't know yet that I wanted. You rock.
I just finished my first semester of ceramics. Needless to say due to the current situation the world is in I was unable to learn hands on. I really enjoy ceramics and thought hey maybe I could buy a cheap kiln 😂but first I looked on TH-cam and came across this video. Thank you. How I’ll informed was I about kilns.
Best teacher on the planet
Thank you for this video!!!🤘
I watched it from start to finish and will go through it again when the time comes that I'm ready/able to buy a kiln. It looks like the KM818 is probably perfect for me.
I graduated a couple years ago with two Associate level degrees in Art and a Certificate in Clay Arts. Having such a good rapport with my professor, I've been able to fire my personal projects every semester since. 👍
I've been looking for a good ceramics channel and have been quite disappointed until I found your channel here.
I've subscribed!
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Everybody is buying kilns and wheels since the schools are closed. I want one too.
Thank you for all of this information!
This video is incredibly helpful. Thank you for your honest opinions!
Thank you for the wheel video, Dante is right, should put that on a mug lol! I bought a shimpo rk and could not be happier because I listened to the hard talk, and saved a thousand bucks, thank you sir! So I’ll let you know how the kiln buying turns out!
This was very informative! Thank you
Thank you very much. I know you probably heard it many times: "you talk too much". Yes, you do :-). Very informative and it was a wake-up call for me when you said "this kiln takes 60 amps and my house output is 100 amps". Which means, I can not fire the kiln, use my dishwasher, ...etc. I did not know that. Also, having a picture of the wall plug was like OMG am I really ready for this. like, I do not even remember if turning light on do I flip the switch up or down.
Seriously, thank you very very much for taking the time to explain buying the kiln. If you do not the video already, can you make a video on the absolute guide to setting up a hobby studio. Love you man!
Subs : Dante, you talk too much
Also subs: o.... You said something I actually needed to hear.... Damn
I neeeeed the model L&L EL3048 .... I want Jason Momoa to pose for rip-off copies of Davinci's statue of David. It is for the practice.
Tons of information Thank you
Maybe a toilet would fit in that 24k kiln! The great pottery throw down finale challenge was a toilet 😂
Helpful and timely video! Thanks for taking the time to make all this content, keep it up!
Thank you sooooo much for doing this video. I am in the process of thinking about buying a kiln. Since this will be my first kiln I am considering not buying a new one based on what I heard you say. I started taking classes at alpha fired three years ago and I was in love with the wheel first try. I am one of those 70 plus retired gals. I am 5’4” tall. I saw this one kiln where I could try loading it and fall in never to be seen again. Anyway I feel your passion for teaching and helping. Thanks for being there.
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this is a great video thank you! i’ve been doing pottery for about 4 years at a studio and have been interested in getting my own kiln, I think i will go with your suggestion of the KM818 as im still more in the hobby world! Thanks!! 🙌
If I get big into ceramics, I have a barn that’s detached from our house that’s basically a second garage, on its own breaker and all. I’m lucky 🙌🏻
Well, I totally feel like you shot an arrow straight through my dreams....🤣
Thank you! This was so freakin' helpful.
I really enjoy watching your videos, super funny 😄 and very informative.
Thank you so much for this, I really appreciate the time you put into it! I'm going to go dig a hole....jk
Im going to start with a DIY wood kiln first. I want to learn as much as I can from the ground up...literally.
Very helpful information!
Just so you know your electric 100 amp panel is at 240v so each side on the bar/side of the panel is 100 amps @ 120v... so you have 200 amps @ 120v... so your breaker is using power from each side of the panel.
Okay, I really did watch this video and others...TO THE END!!! I have enough experience of throwing and hand building to know it does so much for my heart and soul! So, before I made the decision to buy my first used 1970's Skutt 818 yesterday. Not kidding, it is in really great shape!!! I am seriously considering adding the vent, because this is in my basement. I traveled 4.5 hours to pick it up. I am having an electrician the wiring soon. But I am prepping my basement walls and putting up shelves first...so excited about the journey. Can't even tell you how happy my heart feels today. It certainly will be work to get to where I start throwing again. Oh yeah, I need to find that used Brent IE X! I am still researching wheels. Will be taking before and after photos! Thank you so much for all you do and share!
This video has great information but it would be great if they were separated into like 5 videos. I was fast forwarding to the hear the hard talk then went too far and missed stuff. Ended up watching the beginning a few times till I heard everything. Again, all great information! Thanks for the details and open honesty.
I am a just starting with pottery, and absolutely love it. It's my new passion :-) Thank you for your channel! Right now I am throwing with rather cheap clay - clay that I can't even fire at the local pottery studio - first question is can a cheaper clay have an impact on the results? Meaning, I mess up most of the pieces. 😆. Second question: I wonder if I should get my own kiln, even if I am just starting... I have an opportunity to buy a second hand Skutt LT-3 it's pristine but obviously an older model and I wonder if it's worth it? (They are asking too much at 2500$, I would be willing to pay 1000$ max for a used older kiln) or should just go ahead and buy a new one that would probably be "updated" and more stable? Any thoughts?
Welp I guess I’m just gonna stay at my local pottery studio and not buy a home studio lol. This genuinely helped me. I have been throwing for years now and was considering buying a home studio and now just realized it is a pain in a ass
I watched the whole video, so much great information thank you! Added bonus I now also know the best sized kilns for firing people in.
Lolol yes.
Super informative video. You sold me on the KM 818. Thanks!
This was very useful and concise. Thank you.
I got a used kilnsitter paragon the size of the 818. Actually 2 of them for a grand total of 180 for both. They are in storage because well rental. If I can talk hubby into it the landlord would be fine. Now dont judge the husband..I have taken over the entire house with my crafts. The kilns fire up and in particular one is in new shape. For being about 600 years old it was a heck of a deal. I have even thought about upgrading the kilnsitter to a digital because of the cheap initial output it should not be totally cost prohibitive at a future date
Thank you for this! I am getting ready to build a potting shed and buy a kiln so this was perfect. Lots of great information. I had the opportunity to buy an 818 used but I had no place to put it so I had to let that go. It was in great condition too. So bummed about that. Anyway thanks as always for the good info. In the giant kiln I would definitely put a sculpture! I love clay and want to go bigger! For now though I am sticking to my cups a bowls.
Same thing happened to me with a 818!
@@jordankohs1795 Sad right!?
Thank you so much for this video, extremely helpful!
Hi! Thanks for making this video, super informative. I have an additional question. There are several kilns online that have a different maximum temperature. There are some that go to 1100 deg Celcius (2012 deg F) instead of 1260 deg C (2300 deg F). what are your thoughts on having a kiln with a lower max temperature?
This is super helpful thanks !
I am 53, been doing ceramics since I was 17. Just bought a used kiln with low fire times from local shop going out of business, and although I done some research prior to buying this kiln, you have given me more information that is very useful. Still setting up and haven't used it yet so thanks for sharing your experiences so I can enjoy mine. BTW, I paid $400 for a kiln sitter LT-3K. I am doing slip mold initially because that's what I am most familiar with but may branch out more after watching you.
Don't forget about the KM 822!
Great information
You're great. Your videos are great 👍
Where would you suggest we look for used equipment? Good insights on the kilns. Thanks.
I’m interested in glass fusion. MK818 would do great?
Hi, please don't judge, but I am brand new at firing pottery lol. What happens if you fire a mid range glaze at cone 06? Also, what happens if you fire a mid range glaze over low fire clay? Thanks a bunch! I am just trying to get some knowledge :)
I just purchased a used Evenheat 5320 XL, 230 volts, 38 amps, 8740 watts, and max temp 2300 degrees F. It is old and manual. It has a series of switches. Bricks and elements look good. One coil slightly protruding about 1 inch. No cracks. Shelf sitter intact.
No manual, so I'm very nervous. Any suggestions for a new potter? I've only used a friend's kiln.
THANK YOU thank you thank you 🌸 no really thank you, i need to put it all in perspective! this art studio idea of mine is taking shape. Right now i work off of a picnic table in the yard. 🤔 I think i need to start a business ... but first i gotta learn to throw 😆 i have more experience with playdoh
Put a giant ceramic skull in there lol I love the video , great job , been shopping kilns for a year now. LoL
Thanks for the information. It truly help
Thank you for a great video!
This is very informative. I like the detail and nerdiness on the kiln! Much appreciated!
THANK YOUUUUU this was very helpful king