What's the Closest Anyone Has Come to a Real Truth Serum?
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It's Navaron the last e is silent but makes the o pronounced.
Video starts at 1:29
It is madness to refer to somebody whose government secretly dosed him with LSD as paranoid.
_"Just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you"_ 😉
This is such a dumb statement, obviously "paranoid" isn't used in a derogatory manner. After what happened, he WAS paranoid. There's no way around that. Look up the definition and quit your bitching
@@Rachel_M_ also phrased as, "Even paranoids have enemies."
@Hercules Shakespeare more often than not, it's those around them who pay the price
Wish they'd set me up with free hallucinogens
Interesting video Simon, I have spent a lot of time working in anesthesia and regularly lecture on the topic. I would offer, it is not the specific medication, so much as it is the depth of sedation/anesthesia of the patient/subject. I have been trained to assess neuro status of patients recovering from anesthesia, and have noticed that there is a depth level, where the patient will answer fantastically. One of my favorite things to ask to assess neuro status is "where did you hide the money." At sufficient affect of the drug, the answers are truly entertaining, and realistically not plausible. As this level of sedation wears off, the patient will answer extremely truthful, I presume from inhibitory neurotransmitters being suppressed. As sedation wears off completely, the patients will either answer quizzically or indignantly at the question. (which means they can be stepped down from post operative care). As with the medications you covered here, and since amnesia is a goal of inducing anesthesia and deep sedation, the patients often don't remember either the question or answers unless they are at a sufficiently lucid state.
Obviously in anesthesia we do not use the medications you covered here, and using such knowledge and experience for law enforcement would be hugely unethical, but it seems to me much more related to the level of sedation than any particular agent, and why we don't allow visitors to the patient before their are acceptably lucid to prevent them from saying things under the influence they would rather not to friends and family.
Thank you for your insight
Very interesting
So Sir, I suppose then the government no doubt employs anesthesiologists to employ the same skills as those which you possess. However, those whom work for our government have a different purpose as yourself and surely have different set of ethical standards as yourself. Having worked for one of the No Such Agencies while in the US Army I can assure you that your government. Lies to the public each and every day. 100% of their purpose is to empower themselves (the Agencies) they do not answer to the courts, the open government entities we pretend to be the.guys in white hats, congress or the president. Simply put maybe 40% of their efforts are forwarded and offered as what is accurate as this info is only offered to keep their Cash coming yearly, the other 60% is used to empower these Agencies unto themselves... Only. I assure you the us government use Any and All chemicals as needed on a daily basis to keep the government functioning... without any medically ethical standards as those used by yourselves in your higher medical standards. Their purpose is different therefore their ethics are totally different as they answer to a different call and as used in your eyes would not be ethical, yet to themselves this is purpose for which they exist so therefore totally ethical in their own eyes.
Thank you Sir, for fighting the good fight !!
I worked in the pharmaceutical field for quite awhile. I'm not particularly familiar with the actual administration of drugs to patients, but I know my psychopharmacology and pharmacodynamics like the back of my hand.
Barbiturates are well known to reduce inhibitions, even just basic maintenance dosages of Butalbital or Phenobarbital have been implicated in numerous examples of patients saying things they shouldn't to their family, coworkers, boss, etc...
However spy agencies and the like have methods for training resistance to narco-analysis (most often employing Barbiturates). They also teach agents/assets to be familiar with alcohol and resistant to prying questions under it's influence.
The Scopolamine is a bit more intriguing/disturbing. Because it's a pretty potent anticholinergic and antimuscarinic drug it can easily cause hallucinations and outright delusions at high dosages, which interrogations would likely require. At these dosages it's a deliriant, often causing extremely vivid and realistic delusions (way beyond most hallucinogens, stuff like smoking phantom cigarettes or having full conversations with people that don't exist). It's pharmacology related to drugs like BZ, and other Tropane alkaloid deliriants (Think Angel's Trumpet, Jimson Weed, etc...). These delusions tend to be of an often persecutorial and paranoid nature too (like seeing demons and stuff).
Plus combining it with nicotine or caffeine would reduce/attenuate it's effect. While mixing it with amphetamine, or even worse cocaine, would be fairly dangerous for the heart and likely increase the chance of seeing life-threatening side effects.
As a thought experiment though, I've always wondered if these deliriant drugs could be used in interrogations if their horrifying delusional effects were learned into instead of avoided. I doubt traditional narco-analysis resistance training would work so well against such a use.
Imagine this, the spy/subject is first given Scopolamine/Hyoscyamine or BZ, along with LSD.
Once they're experiencing full-blown paranoid delusions and seeing demons, the interrogator has "actors" start trying to convince the spy/subject they're in Hell or something similar depending on subject's religious affiliation or likely upbringing.
Then the interrogator administers a drug like MDMA which encourages trust and likely reduces some of the persecutorial delusions while still being hallucinogenic (yes as a substituted amphetamine it'd still be dangerous).
The interrogator then reveals themselves and "wards off" the other actors/demons. They tell the spy/subject that they are a savior/angel (alter for subject's beliefs) but that they MUST confess everything to be saved/rescued, otherwise they go back with the demons(actors) for eternity.
Who knows, it MIGHT work, though obviously the interrogator would need a VERY corrupted sense of morals and medical ethics to ever actually do such an interrogation.
Maybe I'll write a spy fiction book/film with this someday.
As a retired drunk I can tell you that a person "under the influence" of anything will absolutely tell you the truth. But it's the truth as they perceive it at that moment which is extremely warped. The same goes for polygraphs. You cannot get a base line reading on a person who is under duress which is 99% the case so the whole process is rendered useless.
I've told a lot of bs stories while drunk in a bar
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan If only my life were as grand as I said it was at the bottom of a bottle lol
I quit drinking because I realized how full of shit I become!
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan I ran into a guy like that after a deployment while home on leave. A class mate that was still in his MOS school talking about how he killed a bunch of people. Walked out, never went back to a bar or had a drop of booze. I was drinking to kill myself at the time and hearing someone who had never been in a sh*t sandwich really woke me up and snapped me out of it. Funny how a stupid drunk can change your outlook on life. Not sure what happened to that guy. Hope he found reality.
Anybody who thinks alcohol reveals truth has never met an actual alcoholic.
First thing that came to mind from this was the movie "True Lies" where Arnold told the tortures how he was going to escape after being given the truth serum.
Glad I'm not the only one 🤣
"To alcohol! The cause of and solution to all of life's problems" 🍻
-Homer J. Simspon
And now an excuse used by deflecting drunkards to sweep the truth about domestic violence and child abuse under the carpet. Where exactly is the so-called solution again? Their just perpetuating a cycle using deflecting statements.
@@thomaseddyson362 Chill, it was a joke.
You know you have talent when you can open with no it doesn't work but still make a 20 min video that's informative and entertaining.
My question about things like MK Ultra has always been, did they ever attempt any of these experiments on people who were users of the substance?
For instance, dosing an unsuspecting, first time user with LSD would give you extremely different results than if you gave LSD to someone that had taken it before, and was aware of what you were attempting.
Agreed. I've smoked weed almost every day since the 90s and trip occasionally, and often wish I could have a "first time experience" again, partially due to how naive I was- in general and specifically to those substances. Reflecting on those experiences now, I don't think I would have been as susceptible as described in this video, but I'm talking about one single hit of acid or several pop can pipes in the woods, not a massive dose by any means.
the point was to program people without them knowing.
I've read a bit on the program and to the best of my recollection the answer is no they didn't. They weren't exactly scientific in their approach even though they probably thought they were and an unknown number were spiked, sometimes just to be observed through one way mirrors, in an extremely callous approach to those affected. The UK military carried out more controlled experiments at Porton Down and soon concluded it had no practical use, only a small number of unsuspecting soldiers affected.
@Typical.Anomaly there is nothing quite like having just gone through hell by going out a 6th story window onto an old disused fire escape. Sl8dding the window shut behind you and having to climb down the sides of it and finally drop the last 15 ft onto a 1st story roof into the bushes on 775ug lsd and then run accross campus as the sirens are comming louder and louder and get to your dorm room and hunker down and then have the cops come 3 hours later to ask you about your involvement with a guy who had stripped naked and ran around his dorm building and fought security with a bong and whipped cream dispenser. I mean I was there. But he stole my whole sheet of acid and when I called him on it he ate over 4200ug or 42 blottets the rest of my 50 sheet. I had to fight my kind to stay calm and not show any duress. My pupils were still massive and I was actively seeing visuals and feeling like I was being dragged down into myself by myself. But I held strong and was let go after 15 minutes
I would formally like to volunteer to find out 😂
I've done my fair share of...."truth serums"
Datura / Scopalamine comes soooo close to being a real truth- extracting drug: The patient, subject, or victim { pick whichever of those words you feel is most accurate } makes the person so acquiescent, they’ll happily help you rob their own apartment {see Vice’s doc } .
What's really fascinating is that none of these drugs have much effect on psychopaths and other pathological liars; its as if deceit is integral to their consciousness
@@shannon6876 interesting, thank you for sharing your thoughts
@@shannon6876 I've known some who seem to start believing their own lies. At least it looks like that and they will make you question your sanity before admitting it despite being presented wirh evidence. They convince you that you are delusional or misremember things. I used to sometimes record conversations just to reassure myself I didn't imagine it. That worked a treat but then you're accused of all sorts of stuff. Best to avoid these people. At all cost. Fk em. They can be a professionals problem who is paid to listen to that garbage. Had the pleasure of knowing one of the narcissistic variety and one flavoured bipolar. Lovely people. My life feels so simple not having them in my life anymore. So straightforward haha.I don't get lying other than to escape trouble... it's rarely not caught eventually and I couldn't possibly remember what I said to someone last week. It would be exhausting. Just don't answer. If I don't want to say I shrug and make some uncommitted grunting sound. It may be interpreted as is seen fit. Just make a face... most people laugh and forget the question or they understand. No comment.
And then there is the wonderfully elegant solution of admitting you're wrong and apologising. Not hard. 99% of people are willing to forgive if you admit it. Depends on what of course, I don't mean criminal things.
I recall reading a report a few years back where the CIA revisited scoplomine as a truth serum but came to the conclusion it was not greatly useful. The first problem is it made people very suggestible leading to false confessions and information and the second problem stemmed from the hallucinations. People would tell them what they believed to be true but it was a coin toss as to if they were telling them what they were hallucinating was true or was actually true.
It's great against motion sickness though. Most boats have it aboard for sea sickness and even astronauts have the option of taking it for launch day. Takes a bit for the digestion to adapt to freefall. About 60% of people barf once the engines turn off. Especially now they occasionally send up "civilians". But they've been handling orbit quite well even without years of training so that bodes well for average Joe's one day having a space job. The moon base will need plumbers eventually.
Jeremy Hardy summed up the rambling you do when your wasted thus: "The problem with the drink talking is the drink knows too much!".
Amnesia might be a helpful side effect. You could interrogate the same individual twice and see if you get the same responses. In theory, he shouldn't be able to remember anything he made up during the first session. If you get the same answers twice, it's more likely to be the truth as he understands it.
The video said that people can overcome most serums with enough prep time, so amnesia wouldn’t help if they’ve mentally prepared themselves for interrogation and already have a fake story ready to go.
Benzos could work for that. Z drugs too. I never remembered what I did before falling asleep when taking ambien.
If we ever develop a truth serum with a 100% success rate, be careful of what you're willing to ask. In a number of cases, some things are better left unsaid and you don't need to know every detail of what someone was doing during the morning of a recent murder in the area.
Imagine how useless it would be to hear someone describe in unusual detail every step of what they were doing in the kitchen before sitting down for breakfast. Then they describe the movement of their mouths with every chew until they prepare to leave for work.
Imagine questioning a suspect on where they were and they say, "with your mom" and then you remember that you just gave them a real truth serum. Ouch.
First of all, love the content Simon. Thank you for all you do through all your channels. Second, that Enron mug is the best! I kind of wish I had one now.
Now, I know what's in the Kool-aid that Trump gives all his MAGA cult 'followers...oxytocin! Only This can explain why MAGAs are So Willing to give their Orange Grifter vast sums of their money without question so that he can continue to buy 3rd rate lawyers to defend himself, and to live in luxury, without anyone the wiser.
After severe Resistance to Capture and Resistance to Interrogation training I got to the point where I genuinely didn't care - but I would never say a word to the enemy. No question we were given absolutely 100% of what was going on because they expected us to be exposed to that sort of shit and the more often we were exposed the more we would be resistant to it.
Today I ACTUALLY found out that Sodium Pentothol is a trademarked name. In 50 years I've never heard sodium thiopental, I looked it up thinking it was an aluminum/aluminium thing.
It's ok. You can say aluminum. It was first called aluminum, then changed to aluminium to suit elitist jerks.
@@patg14 totally not the point of my comment, but thanks. What I was trying to convey is that, while watching this video, I heard the name sodium thiopental for the first time ever. All thru my life I've known it as sodium Pentothol, so I thought perhaps British English pronounces it differently, like the aluminum example I gave. But after looking it up I learned that sodium Pentothol is a trademarked name, and it's what's used in nearly every American TV and movie during the 20th century when they wanna get some answers outta someone. Hope this clears that up.
@@patg14 it was actually first called alumium by Sir Humphry Davy, but aluminium by all his colleagues from the start, then he called it aluminum briefly, and finally agreed with his colleagues that aluminium was the best name. It isn't hard to google stuff, instead of just automatically attributing everything to some conspiracy theory nonsense lmao. What in the world would "elites" possibly give a shit whether it was aluminum or aluminium? That's such an obviously silly load of crock.
@@patg14 Elitist jerks being the rest of the Non-US world like usual. Same elitists who ask, WTF is Fahrenheit? Are you German?
The truth serum scene in True Lies was perfect.
Simon, you are amazing!! I don’t know how you manage to bring such cogent and intelligent content on so many channels to your audience. Brilliant!
Well, it starts with a fuck off big team, which never seems to get any credit.
Works for a Czech MCN 😂
Very simple. Most of the scripts are other people's scripts that he pays for.
Karl Smallwood of Fact Fiend wrote a few episodes as well.
That is how. Simon is a presenter, and I doubt he writes any of the scripts himself.
This is not deriding Simon, he is an entertaining presenter.
cocaine and 300 year old wine.
MDMA is s bloody good one.. the amount of times I've had to hold my tongue.. and the amount of times I haven't 😬
My mom had twilight sleep during my birth. She also had severe postpartum depression. Always wondered if the experience had anything to do with her postpartum. She’s always been very critical of and cold towards me.
Not impossible to be emotionally distant during the time of bonding and perhaps some underlaying psychological reasons prior pregnancy, could have effected her so much that it perhaps felt as someone else giving birth and being altered emotionally during the "sleep "
He was ABSOLUTELY thrown out the window. Absolutely.
10:55 I've met several veterans who swear by the effectiveness of therapy combined with low doses of MDMA.
I know many more veterans, including myself, who swear by the effectiveness of therapy combined with microdoses of psilocybin (mushrooms).
And, for those who are or were "That guy": Notice the key word that was in both of the above examples. The word was "therapy". Just chomping on some 'shrooms or eating a bunch of Molly won't do the trick. The therapy is the part that allows change to occur. The compounds in these drugs help the patient to do the therapy treatment more effectively.
Also, you won't "get off" with either medication if you're using them correctly, because the number one rule is, "If you can tell that you took the drug, then you took too much of the drug; So, lower your dose".
Set and setting, man! Set and setting! I'm due for a chemical vacation, myself, if you know what I mean. (I'm not "that guy", I'm just a fan of chemically-assisted living who enthusiastically agrees with your comment.)
This is why I dont do hallucinating drugs. You don't have any control and no idea what you're doing.
Microdosing that stuff is playing with fire.
That is some beautiful jumper under that jacket. The color, the cable pattern, the softness- look of the yarn- damn, where'd you get it?!
Guhnz Uhv Na·Vuh·Rown - Guns Of Navarone is a classic. Great movie!!!
And WY-kee-KEE (not wy-KEE-KEE, or whatever it was he said)
@Crangaso Yeah; while the way he said it may be grammatically correct as a Spanish word, I've only ever heard it pronounced as having a silent 'e' at the end, going back to the mid-1960s...
Based on Simon's less scripted content, I have to imagine that when that judge was telling those guys off for believing in potions philters and healing by faith that Simon had to stop for a second a say "F**king Legend." Potentially with the foul language fowl quacking to cover his swearing.
I can hear Simon laughing and saying that in my head.
You just made it happen.
"....hahaFuckingLegendhhaha...!"
@@marcalvarez4890 yeah same!
I remember hearing about a spy hunter (might have been german) who came up with the theory of questioning a suspected female spy during childbirth since it would be almost impossible to lie due to the pain and the drugs used.
It was featured on BBCs QI.
It was more the observation that, if you got a woman you believe to be a spy pregnant, the way to find out if they are not native to that country is to st in on the birth.
There had been an observation that upon experiencing the pain of the birth, it was impossible for the woman not to revert back to her native tongue when expressing feelings of pain.
That is also a plot point in "Seventeen Moments of Spring".
I can personally attest that a stiff mix of MDMA and cocaine will make people talk for about 72 hours straight, without interruption. It might not contain much information of value, but it can definitely include encyclopedic and complete inventory of any specialty or interest; There is nothing better when it comes to getting someone to talk
The mk ultra program was a response to a remarkably simple technique used by North Korea by which prisoners wrote essays critical of the US for a small reward like cigarettes. Repeatedly doing this had the effect of released pows appearing brainwashed and the CIA were convinced some unknown chemical must have been used by the Communists and the search for one the US could use began.
16:23 IKR? It's just SO degrading when people actually catch you lying, and can prove it, and then point out all your lies, and in doing so make you out to be some kind of dishonest person or even a liar.
The nerve of some people! ..expecting truthful answers and everything...especially when dealing in higher level government stuff.
Those bastards!
Ever been under the influence?
Yes, you will tell the truth, but the problem is; if you're sufficiently inebriated it will be a very warped version of the truth. What do you suppose warped truth looks like?
At best hyperbole, at worst blatant lies. That's why thus far we've not found a working compound. The types that cause inebriation create a hit and miss scenario. I mean you can take testimony from someone inebriated but you don't get to pick and choose.
So if you wind up with a confession of crime but also testimony that the subject witnessed someone else commit the crime, one answer at a minimum is wrong. You don't get to put one version alone into a prosecution because the entire thing is unreliable.
That's why chemical or torturous testimony is rubbish. They're both unreliable and the best way to question subjects is to form trust based relationships. Just ask the FBI about interrogation best practices.
Oxytocin might be useful in helping form trust rapidly, but agent "Jack Bauer" has no place in modern interrogation techniques.
I knew a few people that took gypsum weed (also called crazy weed or stink weed) when we were in high school. It grows in the wild out in the country where I grew up and they read that it was a hallucinogenic. It sounded like a bad idea so I did not take any but was present when they took it. After they took it we went to a Fresno State Bulldog football game. It took an hour or two before it started kicking in. All of a sudden they were completely out of their minds so I left them. One ended up in jail and 2 others ended up in the hospital. One of them almost died and was in the hospital for weeks. They were never the same after and they don’t remember any of it. I heard of other people trying it and being hospitalized also. They just cut open the little spike balls and ate a handful of the seeds without knowing what parts to eat and what parts not to eat or how much. When it kicked in, they looked like they were possessed and they couldn’t communicate with me at all. It was very scary and very stupid. I don’t recommend anyone trying this.
They are called Mamona here in Brasil and i had no idea this plant could have such an effect. From my parents i know they used to play with it when theyvwrre children by throwing around the dry, very spiky, "fruit" as a prank as it's suposedly very painfull and when i was little i was warned that is was higly poisonous but no one ever told me that mamonas (gypsum weed) were also allucinogenics.
That poor u-boat captain. He was probably very, very confused.
Also, in California, there was an attempt in the mid-late 1900's to treat marital problems with doses of MDMA in both spouses.
Well it can certainly solve one marital problem. But it won't make you like someone you've grown to hate for 25 years. It just makes sex really awesome.
LSD is for when you want to know what's really inside someone's head. Not in the sense of any truth but what their honest personality is. Basically if they have a heart. Can't fake that on acid. The problem with LSD is that it lets you see through your own lies about yourself. And see deep inside your brain. So you might not like what you find. You might realise you've beeb deceiving yourself for years. You might realise you're an asshole or selfish or whatever naive, unintelligent, boring... or positive stuff too of course but that's not a problem. Really depends what kind of baggage you carry around because it will become visible. Old memories etc... good and bad. LSD is neutral. It is neither good nor bad. It's you that may be either of those. Scary stuff. Really fascinating scary stuff I alledgedly do not regret at all.
The one you mentioned is just good fun if you're healthy and it's not garbage (you can send it in for testing, no questions asked in Europe).
Love the ENRON coffee cup. It is the little things in life :)
Simon's writers have come closest to a real truth serum. He has to read their fact-based scripts!
Laced with his personal opinion.
Great video, thanks for the effort.
Truth serum is like expecting chatbot ai's to be correct instead if misinformed. The truth isn't some specially universally labeled thing
That mug though 🤣🤣😂
Alexander Litvenyeko was killed by the CIA - his murder was deliberately suspicious and timed to force the UK government to uncritically accept a false flag attack elsewhere.
At best, you can make someone relaxed and hyperactive and/or confused. People can slip up and forget to lie (or what the lie was) and accidentally tell the truth.
If they don't know what's going on. If they are aware of the drugging they are more likely to just play dumb or silent.
wow Twilight Sleep sounds so much more pleasant than Amnesiatic Delirium
I'd love to see a video dedicated to more "convenient contrivances ".
10:06 I commented (somewhat negatively) about your pronunciation of the camp/state name some weeks ago in a previous video. YOU NAILED IT THIS TIME AROUND!
A doctor in the early 20th century really said “to the tongue” like that 😂
How are you able to make so many episodes? Keep up the good work.
Cos he only talks for 3 minutes.
Rest is advertising.
all he does is read stuff. other people do the work.
@@KarldorisLambley Facts lol
narration & komedy
Wow the very last statement was probably the scariest one I heard all video, if there is/was a drug to remove fear given to say soldiers we would have crazy possible uncontrollable killers on our hands. Fear makes you think! Or even better make you think twice.
That was what supposedly made Viking Berserkers so scary, so high on mushrooms that they felt little fear or pain
Check out the novel "The Truth Machine". Don't know where it is available but remember it being a cracking read about an inventor who creates a device that 100% can detect a lie, and its following widespread use in society and the impacts it has.
You missed that Ted Kazinski (sp) aka the uni-bomber.
Was a victim of the MK Ultra testing. He was a high performing university student. But after moved to a shed and became a hobo,
That is so tragic 😢
I honestly would like to see if I'm vulnerable to these "truth serums"
I generally have a habit of not trusting anyone, even my closest family only knows a fraction of who I really am
most substances have an ironious or no effect on me
it can be kinda frustrating, because no stimulant works for me
I have a prescription for scopolamine and had no idea it was used for this😶
I agree that these drugs shouldn’t be used at all to get confessions.
Not quite sure what the point about Doctor Michael Mosley was meant to be as he may not be a Heart Surgeon but he is both a Medical Doctor & a Dr. Of Philosophy (as well as some kind of TV producer)
It's interesting that your coffee mug is from Enron.
Working some light pharmacology into these is a great idea
What was ever wrong with wine? Or whatever they gave me at the hospital once, that I for a few days pretty much became insane, reality became a fantasy.
"We don't have recipes yet to control them..." With governments being so open and honest, I believe it. No government is attempting to control us and, if they could, they would tell us. Wait, was there something slipped in my drink?!? Nah, a government official just told me no; seems legit.
These should be used in the cases of missing people, to extract potentially lifesaving information.
Okay. This helps to answer a question I've had most of my life. I destroyed my left knee when I was 12. I tore pretty much everything there was to tear, including a nerve and my femoral artery. Long story short, they saved my leg, but I remember the doctors telling me that I had to be awake for some reason while they set my knee but that they were going to give me something that would make me forget. My family doesn't remember this and since I was also in shock I've always wondered if I just imagined it. Does anyone know if they would have used one of those twilight drugs in that kind of situation?
There are some types of drugs that you are awake for, but you "brown out" for a little while. I got something like this when I dislocated my shoulder. Everything becomes fuzzy and you don't remember a whole lot.
Were u in the US or another country... Different countries use different pharma. Knowing where u were and the year the accident took place in you could be provided with a relatively accurate guess as to your sedatives given as medical treatments for severe trauma change dependent on medical advancement and local practice policies of the time.
Truth Serum is one of those 80s movie tropes like "knockout gas".
Like the heroes are in a room. They realize the door they came in is locked from the outside. They look around and suddenly *ssssss*. A gas comes in through a vent. Oh no, knockout gas! The heroes collapse in just a few seconds as they frantically try to break down the door.
They wake up tied to chairs, with absolutely no bad side effects from anesthetic. The villain is there gloating and prepares the truth serum. He is about ready to inject one of the heroes so they tell him all the secret info. But the heroes manage to free themselves and fight the villain! Yay!
Seriously, massive trope.
Weird that you would describe the prospect of developing truth serum as "optimistic". I can think of hardly a more dangerous tool in the hands of a repressive regime, an abuser, or an organised criminal group. The potential for harm that such a development may bring, in my view, vastly outweighs any potential for good.
Reliability and suggestibility of patients are concerns, and the practice of chemically inducing an involuntary mental state is now widely considered to be form of torture.
Read a book on brain washing, a couple of conclusions, use of drugs as well torture and other techniques can get someone to talk, but seldom to tell the truth. Turned out what worked best was a mild intoxicant, like beer, and mild stimulant like cigarettes. Just sitting down and have a conversation over drinks.
Yo Simon. Gimme an URL for Vessi, that'd quite nice buddy.
The combination of artificial intelligence and brain scans have allowed the reconstruction of mental images on computer screens.
Not a truth serum persay but a way of involuntarily getting inside someone’s head.
That ENRON coffee cup is awesome!!
“The fear of being given scopolamine would be enough to make people confess” - so the polygraph is the modern day replacement, and is equally bogus.
I've had some amazing conversations while on low doses of LSD... Not microdosing, but a so much that the ceiling was moving like waves in a lake--for example. BTW, I recorded a couple of my conversations.
I think the strongest truth serum is alcohol. It brings out people's truest self.
So true!
I wish there was, I have so many things I have seen and other people that would freely put their hand up for this....and you know what would happen 🤨 "I believe you believe it🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄😑🤦♀️".
We've had a truth serum for centuries. It's called alcohol 🤣
Gotta love the old Simon in the thumbnail.
I thought scopolamine made it so that you were more impressionable and will do what you're guided to do even if its not what you'd normally do. Like they say happens when you're robbed in Columbia
My mom's belt always brought out the truth.
Holy shit, I’d have taken most anything to forget the agonies of childbirth 😬
Sure, if you are willing to roll the dice on permanent brain damage, violent halucinations, and that kind of thing then yeah "Twilight Sleep" was a great program.
Love the coffee mug. Hahaha.
I often wonder who hears more confessions, bartenders or priests
"Sometimes a man will tell his bartender things he'll never tell his doctor."
-- Dr. Boyce (John Hoyt) "The Cage."
I have heard people say way more than they should have at after hour house parties in Amsterdam. I am not quite sure of the 'cocktail' of chemicals they consumed.
It's kind of scary how quick some governments are to reclassify undesirables as subhuman when it no longer suits them to let them have human rights.
Red wine. After the second bottle, I'm incapable of deception or restraint! 😂🍷
7:15 I'm stoned right now and that was definitely funny
10:23 Ummm...Yeah?
Probably quite "shortly after impact"... ?
I wonder how the use of brain scans has favored in ascertaining if someone is lying or not. I would imagine that the parts of the brain that require more creative parts to light up while lying then just telling the truth.
The interrogators threatened their subjects with your mom, Brain Boy?
MAHP!!
Lololol
Truthfully Simon is awesome 👍😎
What about devils breath? It is used to zombify it’s victims and render them open to any suggestion and answer any question.
Tangential comment of the day: Almost fell out of my chair when I read your desk mug. Well-played, Fact Boy. Well-played, indeed.
Video begins at 1:30
It would seem that without certain variables none of these drugs are all that useful as a step is clearly missing in the focus of the goal.
Mankind would be wise to abandon this pursuit.. lest it disturb all who pursue it.
Alcohol mixed with pillow talk is quite effective.
Mescaline/Peyote is the MF'n only way to FLY!!!!
I agree...I fkn hate planes. At least of I'm on a hallucinogen I don't care anymore 😂
Closet I would say is alcohol
Benzos , a Valium Klonopin or Xanax later and they won't be able to wait to tell you what they know .
Simon, please tell us that coffee mug is an ironic placement, not an advertisement...
sodium penthathol has been around for a while as a truth serum
Saw a Simon video being reacted to by mid-west couple other day... didn't expect that....
Litvinenko was killed in 2006 (not 2016)... seemed a smidge too recent!
The Guns of What-now, Simon?Navaronni?
Hehehe
criminal minds taught me well lol
So you’re trying to tell me that Veritaserum from Harry Potter isn’t an actual potion?!?! Riiiiiiiiiiight
Nice mug 😂!