I believe a man should go into the practice of retention and never expect to have a woman for the rest of his life , but to yield to Gods Sovereignty in that choice.
The key is to be free of sexual thought entirely. Harmonise your energy system with purity. Once free of all sexual thought and daily meditation, you will see much more benefit and be free from temptation. Then you learn to accumulate power. Before you accumulate power, ensure your ethics and deep intentions are in the highest good or the power will corrupt you, and you will become tryannical and cause harm to others and in time lose your power with karmic consequence.
Also it should be noted that the more power you accrue, the more important pure thought.. Sexual thought alone causes draining of energy and also lowers the frequency of your energy so you will not achieve high levels of power without pure celibacy. Also with a lot of stored energy, if you become lustful, you will lose great amounts of power in a short time, eg only a single orgasm can be weeks of accumulated power.. Gone in seconds.
I’m about 92 days in and I’ve never been happier in my life. I credit this to an overall lifestyle and complete mindset shift - being raw vegan for awhile now especially, however Nofap has been HUGE in this journey. Raw vegan and Nofap have been the pillars. I feel like life just started. Good stuff Connor
The Way Within thanks i appreciate you brother, I 1000% believe that a huge reasons why I am so happy now is bc I have been through absolute hell and I think without that experience I would not be able to reach the highs that i am continuing to reach everyday. And yea for sure, I am not going to release the seed unless it’s to create another Joey lol. Tantric sex only. The detox process was emotional and physical and I know for sure that was probably the most important aspect of this whole process easily. Raw vegan changed EVERYTHING FOR ME. Literally. Read these 2 books Connor - Mucusless diet healing system by Arnold ehret and detox miracle sourcebook, you will have a great foundation on how the body works very much in depth. Personally, I wouldn’t jump the horse with dry fasting bc your not on high fruit yet. I eat one meal a day and so it is basically a 24 hour water fast everyday and I’m healing RAPIDLY. I even eat a lot of fats. Going to make videos on this. And as for the resistance bands that’s AWESOME. I’m going to start going ham on workout videos and making a ton of them. Keep digging brother! 🙏🏼
The Way Within thanks Conor I’m glad I can be of service :) yes read Ehret and Morse, that’s truly all you need, that’s your foundation. The hell experience is needed especially for lightworkers so that we can help others. Yea definitely man, I believe OMAD with herbs and water coconut water or fruit juice throughout day is the best route, more sustainable and help your body to change chemistry. Keep at it man :)
I went to 92 days on my first steak but I didn’t start seeing the benefits until 60 days or so. I started my streak again and I’m day 20 now. I realized the benefits came way faster this time than the first streak.
Thank you for this information. I really appreciate it, for I'm in my 83th day in my nofap/noPMO journey. I need these kind of motivational videos to keep on going on this path. I do believe that this has been one of the most important decisions I've made in my whole life, that's why your support through these teachings is of great value. Greetings and blessings from Mexico.
This is one if not the most crucial, undeniably important pieces of information. Living immoral and blasting away semen has been a great downfall. All this information aligns with why men have issues obtaining women. Why women act the way they do. Why there’s businesses of PUA’s, information on women attraction, issues with peace in living comfortably and dating life, etc. I’m a Christian and I believe in the Bible. So, from my standpoint all this hits to beliefs I’ve bought into. It’s extremely refreshing knowing that all these issues are from sin. Like I said from my standpoint as a Christian, I’m relieved the problems have an absolute answer to a better life and I know how to go about it now. It was scary thinking there wasn’t an answer and I just had to learn as best I could with how it was. What amazes me other than that is I already knew probably 75% of what you read but the difference was I thought there wasn’t anything you could do about it. Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is only appreciated from a weak point. Knowledge truly is powerful!!!
I have heard other men who talk about seaman retention complain that their videos are being prevented from going viral. I don't know why this is happening but it does seem like channels like this are a target for censorship. So guys who share this knowledge must be saying something important if the establishment is trying prevent it from going mainstream. I think we need to find other ways of getting channels like this to go viral. One way we could do this is to share our videos on multiple websites.
Thank you for support. I do not feel that the channel is being censored at this time. I do understand that censorship is occuring on TH-cam around certain topics, but not here.
I read this book and I love it! Like you said, I don't agree with everything the author says either, but the rest of his material is definitely worth the read. Plus I can't ever seem to come across an author I completely 100% agree with anyway.
I've been gearing up to taking the first steps at ending this very long run of porn and masturbation for a couple of months. But I actually started 5 days ago; in the lead up I would lay in bed and cry for absolutely no reason, big grown man like me at 48 years old. Now that I've started to abstain, it's like the Amazon Rain Forest. Anyway, thank you for sharing your insights and thoughts.
It's the best decision of your life. I also stopped close to 40yo. Sex addiction gave me nothing but misery. Now I feel like Superman all day every day.
Great video and channel! I have been looking for a channel like this for a while one which takes a deeper look at Nofap and SR. Most of the videos on the subject seem to be very surface level and generic. Thank you for giving us a deeper understanding! However seems like you have not posted anything new for over 1 year?
Just finished the book, its funny when writer explain the process of practicing celibacy and its exactly what happened to me. Especially when he said on the way we might practice taoist practice about orgasm without ejaculation and how in the end we will realize that tao technique is bullshit 🤣
I went through that phase, too. Maybe it's cool to revisit when in a relationship with a woman, but by yourself, I've learned that stuff is just another trap. Save your energy while single for virtuous pursuits, creativity, becoming best self, also priming yourself for when good woman enters your life.
@@TheWayWithinUs yeah, its a trap. In sexual act the fire was too hot to be controlled. Even when i succeed doing it without ejaculation, it still left me feeling emptiness like the book mentioned. And the unsatisfied nerves creates another mental problem and even worse addiction. Some people claim they master it, probably its not for me. I found its easier to not play with the fire at all until we meet the one.
@@Bumiround Me too, wow. I noticed this and felt I was alone! I noticed when I would orgasm without releasing the semen I would still feel drained, perhaps not as much but still it is a leak in the tank. I dont practice this anymore, as I've felt exactly that it is just a trap in itself. Remember though... Even believing there is "the one" is a trap, it is a trap that steals your peace.. What happens if we lose "the one". There are many Ones, some good and some bad. I've learned this. Now I just retain and focus on life until another Lesson comes my way. Peace lads 👍
So if you can influences things and people around you by mere thought (while on semen retention) if I think of a girl that I like coming up and talking to me, it will just happen?
The strange thing is that for most of my life, the pursuit has been physical release. The depth of moral, physical, and spiritual degradation was easy to notice. If you do what you've always done, you get what you've always got. It's been sort of a struggle, but am thankful for resources such as this to aide in progression, and movement toward what I *do*want.
Hey Conor, love your videos! Could you pleaae make more video of chapters from this book? And please also consider interpreting the Gospelnof Thomas from an esoteric, nofap viewpoint
If you become a total celibate, maybe it'll happen. I personally doubt it. Don't let it be an excuse to live a life of degeneracy and sexual enslavement. It would be a great rationalisation for the brain. That's about it. Nothing else. Peace. ✌️
I wouldn't say it destroys, no. However, caffeine is a stimulant and can take a toll on the adrenal glands which affect energy levels. I think it is best to give it up, too. The whole idea is to break free of all substances and vices, and instead let the natural energy grow and shine through unfiltered.
@@TheWayWithinUs what do you think about smoking marijuana? I've recently given up all PMO (34 days in now) as well as alcohol, cigarettes. I do not want to give up marijuana because i don't see a negative side effect, but on the contrary, i see benefits in it
@@TheWayWithinUs I see. Sadhguru I don't get either. I think what I had a hard time with reading this book was the parts about sexual morality and "God's law" surrounding sexuality, as though we have some higher being looking over our shoulder and judging us for masturbating! To me that rings all the warning bells, and sounds like a way of bringing back the old times of sexual repression and shame. Sexual discipline is a powerful tool, no doubt about it, but let's keep morality out of the picture. I feel the author has confused celibacy with spirituality.
@@TheWayWithinUs Rupert Spira has a great video entitled "Realigning Sexuality with the Understanding", which highlights how our sexuality takes on a finer quality along with the insight of oneness, but he never for one moment claims complete celibacy to somehow be "higher" or "more spiritual".
I share your views and many views of this book, the thing that bugs me about it is God later says in the Bible "be fruitful and multiply", wouldn't God say the opposite so people can return to the garden of Eden (?)
Hi, I guess there are many ways to interpret that statement. Some thoughts: God in the Old Testament, apart from Genesis, is often portrayed as vengeful, wrathful. Some (myself included) believe this to be a non-integrous portrayal of God as He really is. The New Testament depiction of God, in my understanding, is more accurate and integrous - God as a loving, merciful, all-powerful, non-anthropomorphic God. If we take this latter view of God, it is clear that God would want humanity to thrive and flourish. To be fruitful and multiply. "See what love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we may be called the Children of God." The Garden of Eden as presented in Genesis is presented as a literal place, but my understanding is that it refers to a spiritual / psychological event in humanity's past, a pristine state of mind when humanity was more at one with itself and with nature, more whole... Before a psychological process occurred that coinceded with the loss of that pristine state = the fall. Something I like to believe is that this fall, while traumatic in one sense, was also a very necessary step in humanity's development and the evolution of life /consciousness itself. There is something to the idea that humanity could gain greatly by going to the furthest reaches of separation / ego / suffering, to later integrate all the lessons from those painful experiences into a higher level of reunion (the inevitable return to the Garden of Eden). So, to summarise and try to offer an answer to your enigma, my view would be that God wanted humanity to "be fruitful and multiply" in 1) His love for us to thrive and flourish on Earth, while we are here, and 2) His wisdom that humanity would need to be fruitful and multiply in order to evolve, build societies, and experience the journey of separation that will ultimately lead humanity back to regaining that former pristine state (Eden), but at a higher level, having integrated the lessons learned along the way. I like to view humanity's journey as a spiral, as well as us individually. We sometimes revisit old terrain but with new understandings, reintegrating the experience.
@@TheWayWithinUs hey man, thank you very much for your in depth and involved response :) It's made it a bit clearer on this issue i raised, God wants us to go on a journey of consciousness, and the final and eventual death of separation /ego consciousness will be the birth & reunion of unified/connected consciousness. which will mark a very high pinnical in the evolution of our consciousness and may reflect an idealised utopic society (much like Eden) I too btw think that the garden of Eden in genesis is not a literal event, but a metahistorical tale/ parable with an important message from God about our pure and nondual state of consciousness and the fall represents the abuse of sex and other vices sex being the primary thing abused which has caused duality and suffering. perhaps there was a time where we lived in a more spiritually advanced consciousness similar to Eden, and God is describing our fall from this state overtime. Yeah I understand your way of thinking about the OT God and NT god I watched that video you made on this topic, I must say, to me Ive always thought that the OT and the NT God reflected different sides of God's nature kind of like the Hindu God Shiva : who is the god of destruction and god of creation. Like this? So we are looking at two sides of God's nature destruction and creation, those are two main elements of god, I also think God has a nature that transcends both these nature's completely nondual and pure Can god be both perfect and imperfect real and unreal at the same time? So beyond our ability to conceive of God yet we so strongly intuit his existence, definitely he is relevant to every aspect of our being (moral, goodness intellect spiritual) and goes far beyond all aspects of our being simultaneously. Do you see what I'm trying to digg at? Anyway I'm rambling, wish you well man, and keep up the brilliant and insightful content.
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30 months on full semen retention is pure intensity I feel great and loved by GOD
I believe a man should go into the practice of retention and never expect to have a woman for the rest of his life , but to yield to Gods Sovereignty in that choice.
I'm there now.. Currently tightening my boots for the Journey. 💪
@@DaddyResonance And no ice cream, pizza or alcohol, either. Ever.
It’s a gift of God to be celibate
So blessed to have learned this in my 20’s
Lucky star you are...me too :)
was thinking about this too, FOR REAL
Facts I’m only 21
@@ultra1635 damn bro you're old, I'm only 16
Nice me to at 19 it’s a great feeling
I was overcome yesterday, i had around 150 days in but now in in for the long hall. Prayers please
The key is to be free of sexual thought entirely. Harmonise your energy system with purity. Once free of all sexual thought and daily meditation, you will see much more benefit and be free from temptation. Then you learn to accumulate power. Before you accumulate power, ensure your ethics and deep intentions are in the highest good or the power will corrupt you, and you will become tryannical and cause harm to others and in time lose your power with karmic consequence.
Also it should be noted that the more power you accrue, the more important pure thought.. Sexual thought alone causes draining of energy and also lowers the frequency of your energy so you will not achieve high levels of power without pure celibacy. Also with a lot of stored energy, if you become lustful, you will lose great amounts of power in a short time, eg only a single orgasm can be weeks of accumulated power.. Gone in seconds.
Blessings
Thank you Father God for this knowledge
I’m about 92 days in and I’ve never been happier in my life. I credit this to an overall lifestyle and complete mindset shift - being raw vegan for awhile now especially, however Nofap has been HUGE in this journey. Raw vegan and Nofap have been the pillars. I feel like life just started. Good stuff Connor
The Way Within thanks i appreciate you brother, I 1000% believe that a huge reasons why I am so happy now is bc I have been through absolute hell and I think without that experience I would not be able to reach the highs that i am continuing to reach everyday. And yea for sure, I am not going to release the seed unless it’s to create another Joey lol. Tantric sex only. The detox process was emotional and physical and I know for sure that was probably the most important aspect of this whole process easily. Raw vegan changed EVERYTHING FOR ME. Literally. Read these 2 books Connor - Mucusless diet healing system by Arnold ehret and detox miracle sourcebook, you will have a great foundation on how the body works very much in depth. Personally, I wouldn’t jump the horse with dry fasting bc your not on high fruit yet. I eat one meal a day and so it is basically a 24 hour water fast everyday and I’m healing RAPIDLY. I even eat a lot of fats. Going to make videos on this. And as for the resistance bands that’s AWESOME. I’m going to start going ham on workout videos and making a ton of them. Keep digging brother! 🙏🏼
The Way Within thanks Conor I’m glad I can be of service :) yes read Ehret and Morse, that’s truly all you need, that’s your foundation. The hell experience is needed especially for lightworkers so that we can help others. Yea definitely man, I believe OMAD with herbs and water coconut water or fruit juice throughout day is the best route, more sustainable and help your body to change chemistry. Keep at it man :)
I went to 92 days on my first steak but I didn’t start seeing the benefits until 60 days or so. I started my streak again and I’m day 20 now. I realized the benefits came way faster this time than the first streak.
so how zit doing 6 months later ?
David Copperfield very well brother I’m 180 days further into the journey. God bless, continue on the path 💪🏽
Thank you for this information. I really appreciate it, for I'm in my 83th day in my nofap/noPMO journey. I need these kind of motivational videos to keep on going on this path. I do believe that this has been one of the most important decisions I've made in my whole life, that's why your support through these teachings is of great value. Greetings and blessings from Mexico.
Your videos are great man, day 11 and my nails have grown properly for the first time and I feel driven and targeting changes in my life.
This is one if not the most crucial, undeniably important pieces of information. Living immoral and blasting away semen has been a great downfall. All this information aligns with why men have issues obtaining women. Why women act the way they do. Why there’s businesses of PUA’s, information on women attraction, issues with peace in living comfortably and dating life, etc. I’m a Christian and I believe in the Bible. So, from my standpoint all this hits to beliefs I’ve bought into. It’s extremely refreshing knowing that all these issues are from sin. Like I said from my standpoint as a Christian, I’m relieved the problems have an absolute answer to a better life and I know how to go about it now. It was scary thinking there wasn’t an answer and I just had to learn as best I could with how it was. What amazes me other than that is I already knew probably 75% of what you read but the difference was I thought there wasn’t anything you could do about it. Ignorance is NOT bliss. Ignorance is only appreciated from a weak point. Knowledge truly is powerful!!!
Conor Ronayne Awesome! Exercising strength navigates the world efficiently and with proper purpose.
100% women are a reflection of men.If men retained and committed their ways unto God then this society would be alot different
5:43 - brought a tear to my eye brother.
This is pure Gold!!!!!
5:43 always gives me goosebump so true
I have heard other men who talk about seaman retention complain that their videos are being prevented from going viral.
I don't know why this is happening but it does seem like channels like this are a target for censorship. So guys who share this knowledge must be saying something important if the establishment is trying prevent it from going mainstream.
I think we need to find other ways of getting channels like this to go viral. One way we could do this is to share our videos on multiple websites.
Thank you for support. I do not feel that the channel is being censored at this time. I do understand that censorship is occuring on TH-cam around certain topics, but not here.
Type 'semen retention' on TH-cam search and see if it remains on search history, or bring up suggestions
Great bro this kind of knowledge comes from my country India
Yeah, India has provided much wisdom to the world. 🇮🇳💚🧡
You reading about the voice perfectly described your voice.
You did a really good job of selecting the most interesting passages from the book.
Wow so many gems in this piece...Thank you. Every man should listen to this. Please share it with 1 friend guys.
More of this book, amazing stuf.
I read this book and I love it! Like you said, I don't agree with everything the author says either, but the rest of his material is definitely worth the read. Plus I can't ever seem to come across an author I completely 100% agree with anyway.
I hav never heard most of what yr saying
Fascinating stuff . It rings true to me.. peace out
@@pauljohnson6019 likely has been silenced but the message lives on forever brother
Amazing information great vídeo thank you very much Greetings from Argentina
Semen retention is just amazing thing there is nothing better!
This is deep knowledge right here brother, thanks for sharing!
Staggering and life changing. one of the greatest lessons of life!
This must be shared.
THANK you dear Conor.
Sunlight daily and semen retention plus push ups 🚀⚡️
It all comes down to not reacting to stimulus , when we are poised we are our natural selves
I've been gearing up to taking the first steps at ending this very long run of porn and masturbation for a couple of months. But I actually started 5 days ago; in the lead up I would lay in bed and cry for absolutely no reason, big grown man like me at 48 years old. Now that I've started to abstain, it's like the Amazon Rain Forest. Anyway, thank you for sharing your insights and thoughts.
It's the best decision of your life. I also stopped close to 40yo. Sex addiction gave me nothing but misery. Now I feel like Superman all day every day.
You regained your senses back, you start to feel emotion again, before we were zombie. It also happened to me 😊
I'm about two weeks in and I'm mentally stronger ,like my powers are coming back ,like when superman throws away the kryptonite.
4 weeks in . and related to things you read here . many thanks
Great video and channel! I have been looking for a channel like this for a while one which takes a deeper look at Nofap and SR. Most of the videos on the subject seem to be very surface level and generic. Thank you for giving us a deeper understanding! However seems like you have not posted anything new for over 1 year?
A valuable share, thanks for sharing conor
Thank you for an awesome video man. Do more on this topic
Did you say abstaining from caffeine is important for higher levels?
Abstaining for any stimulant should be better
Thank you so much for sharing this great wisdom. 👍🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for watching!
Hey Conor, any links to that PDF of the book itself? I’d like to read it.
Conor Ronayne Good man! Many thanks
Can I know the title of the background music?
Just finished the book, its funny when writer explain the process of practicing celibacy and its exactly what happened to me. Especially when he said on the way we might practice taoist practice about orgasm without ejaculation and how in the end we will realize that tao technique is bullshit 🤣
I went through that phase, too. Maybe it's cool to revisit when in a relationship with a woman, but by yourself, I've learned that stuff is just another trap. Save your energy while single for virtuous pursuits, creativity, becoming best self, also priming yourself for when good woman enters your life.
@@TheWayWithinUs yeah, its a trap. In sexual act the fire was too hot to be controlled. Even when i succeed doing it without ejaculation, it still left me feeling emptiness like the book mentioned. And the unsatisfied nerves creates another mental problem and even worse addiction. Some people claim they master it, probably its not for me.
I found its easier to not play with the fire at all until we meet the one.
@@Bumiround Me too, wow. I noticed this and felt I was alone! I noticed when I would orgasm without releasing the semen I would still feel drained, perhaps not as much but still it is a leak in the tank. I dont practice this anymore, as I've felt exactly that it is just a trap in itself. Remember though... Even believing there is "the one" is a trap, it is a trap that steals your peace.. What happens if we lose "the one". There are many Ones, some good and some bad. I've learned this. Now I just retain and focus on life until another Lesson comes my way. Peace lads 👍
Amazing video man love your content
brilliant content! thanks brother!
So if you can influences things and people around you by mere thought (while on semen retention) if I think of a girl that I like coming up and talking to me, it will just happen?
@@TheWayWithinUs Please explain this “emotionally charged thought”. And how far into SR where you when you had this happen?
Where can I find this book either online or hardback?
Really impressed by this might have to subscribe if all these videos are as informative
The strange thing is that for most of my life, the pursuit has been physical release. The depth of moral, physical, and spiritual degradation was easy to notice.
If you do what you've always done, you get what you've always got.
It's been sort of a struggle, but am thankful for resources such as this to aide in progression, and movement toward what I *do*want.
Thanks man, keep going, and if you never need help reach out!
Thank you so much for this man helped out so much !
Thank you for the wisdom.
Any new link for "the bliss of the celibate" that link doesn't work for the book. I really wanna read it 🤞
Very moving, thanks.
Thanks Conor for sharing and for sharing the link to the book it is very valuable
May all be blessed with light 🌤
Hey Conor, love your videos! Could you pleaae make more video of chapters from this book? And please also consider interpreting the Gospelnof Thomas from an esoteric, nofap viewpoint
this is gold
what kind of music you use?
Type in relaxing angelic hz. Meditative Mind is a good channel.
Awesome. Thank you for this. Btw anyone ever tell you that you kinda sound like Jordan Peterson?
I scrolled to find this comment. Totally sounds like him haha
Did he say the sexual organ will diminish in size???!!!
I was looking for if someone asked this or there was a comment about it lol
If you'r a true celibate - you don't need it anymore! It's spirituality vs physicality...
If you become a total celibate, maybe it'll happen. I personally doubt it. Don't let it be an excuse to live a life of degeneracy and sexual enslavement. It would be a great rationalisation for the brain. That's about it. Nothing else. Peace. ✌️
Where can I find this book either online or hardback?
Thank u for making beautiful video.!
Thank you for the great effort. I think, there is something more which is not fully covered in the video
Thanks. What wasn't fully covered, in your view?
Do more bookreadings like this and you will get a boom in views and subscribers. This content is enriching, wanna listen to more like this.
@@TheWayWithinUs Thanks for the book recommendations. Have read some of them, others sound worth giving a read.
Hey on time 23:59 you said its important to avoid caffeine, does drinking coffe destroy the benefits of semen retention?
I wouldn't say it destroys, no. However, caffeine is a stimulant and can take a toll on the adrenal glands which affect energy levels. I think it is best to give it up, too. The whole idea is to break free of all substances and vices, and instead let the natural energy grow and shine through unfiltered.
@@TheWayWithinUs Okay, Yeah its smart. Attachment to unhealthy food, stimulants etc. But once in a while its alright
Good stuff and thank you. At times very hard to understand though.
Good video bro👍
Does caffeine affect the semen retention process? Doesnt it count as celibate if I consume caffeine
@@TheWayWithinUs true true true, green coffee seems to effect the bodie different but the addiction is still a major factor
@@TheWayWithinUs what do you think about smoking marijuana? I've recently given up all PMO (34 days in now) as well as alcohol, cigarettes. I do not want to give up marijuana because i don't see a negative side effect, but on the contrary, i see benefits in it
Where can I find this book either online or hardback?
What do you make of his dismissal of teachers like Osho?
@@TheWayWithinUs I see. Sadhguru I don't get either. I think what I had a hard time with reading this book was the parts about sexual morality and "God's law" surrounding sexuality, as though we have some higher being looking over our shoulder and judging us for masturbating! To me that rings all the warning bells, and sounds like a way of bringing back the old times of sexual repression and shame. Sexual discipline is a powerful tool, no doubt about it, but let's keep morality out of the picture. I feel the author has confused celibacy with spirituality.
@@TheWayWithinUs Rupert Spira has a great video entitled "Realigning Sexuality with the Understanding", which highlights how our sexuality takes on a finer quality along with the insight of oneness, but he never for one moment claims complete celibacy to somehow be "higher" or "more spiritual".
I share your views and many views of this book, the thing that bugs me about it is God later says in the Bible "be fruitful and multiply", wouldn't God say the opposite so people can return to the garden of Eden (?)
Hi, I guess there are many ways to interpret that statement. Some thoughts: God in the Old Testament, apart from Genesis, is often portrayed as vengeful, wrathful. Some (myself included) believe this to be a non-integrous portrayal of God as He really is. The New Testament depiction of God, in my understanding, is more accurate and integrous - God as a loving, merciful, all-powerful, non-anthropomorphic God. If we take this latter view of God, it is clear that God would want humanity to thrive and flourish. To be fruitful and multiply. "See what love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we may be called the Children of God." The Garden of Eden as presented in Genesis is presented as a literal place, but my understanding is that it refers to a spiritual / psychological event in humanity's past, a pristine state of mind when humanity was more at one with itself and with nature, more whole... Before a psychological process occurred that coinceded with the loss of that pristine state = the fall. Something I like to believe is that this fall, while traumatic in one sense, was also a very necessary step in humanity's development and the evolution of life /consciousness itself. There is something to the idea that humanity could gain greatly by going to the furthest reaches of separation / ego / suffering, to later integrate all the lessons from those painful experiences into a higher level of reunion (the inevitable return to the Garden of Eden). So, to summarise and try to offer an answer to your enigma, my view would be that God wanted humanity to "be fruitful and multiply" in 1) His love for us to thrive and flourish on Earth, while we are here, and 2) His wisdom that humanity would need to be fruitful and multiply in order to evolve, build societies, and experience the journey of separation that will ultimately lead humanity back to regaining that former pristine state (Eden), but at a higher level, having integrated the lessons learned along the way. I like to view humanity's journey as a spiral, as well as us individually. We sometimes revisit old terrain but with new understandings, reintegrating the experience.
@@TheWayWithinUs hey man, thank you very much for your in depth and involved response :)
It's made it a bit clearer on this issue i raised, God wants us to go on a journey of consciousness, and the final and eventual death of separation /ego consciousness will be the birth & reunion of unified/connected consciousness. which will mark a very high pinnical in the evolution of our consciousness and may reflect an idealised utopic society (much like Eden) I too btw think that the garden of Eden in genesis is not a literal event, but a metahistorical tale/ parable with an important message from God about our pure and nondual state of consciousness and the fall represents the abuse of sex and other vices sex being the primary thing abused which has caused duality and suffering. perhaps there was a time where we lived in a more spiritually advanced consciousness similar to Eden, and God is describing our fall from this state overtime. Yeah I understand your way of thinking about the OT God and NT god I watched that video you made on this topic, I must say, to me Ive always thought that the OT and the NT God reflected different sides of God's nature kind of like the Hindu God Shiva : who is the god of destruction and god of creation. Like this? So we are looking at two sides of God's nature destruction and creation, those are two main elements of god, I also think God has a nature that transcends both these nature's completely nondual and pure Can god be both perfect and imperfect real and unreal at the same time? So beyond our ability to conceive of God yet we so strongly intuit his existence, definitely he is relevant to every aspect of our being (moral, goodness intellect spiritual) and goes far beyond all aspects of our being simultaneously.
Do you see what I'm trying to digg at? Anyway I'm rambling, wish you well man, and keep up the brilliant and insightful content.
Is that an Irish accent I hear?
Vivekanand...♥️
I'll definitely create content around him. Great sage. Thanks for watching.
Where can I find this book either online or hardback?
Julian lost me at the Gandhi example...
CaRMa is Scottish for Karma...
Are you Irish?
The Way Within Cool, where in Ireland? I live near Dublin
The Way Within yeah I’m not too familiar with the accent but I knew I recognised it
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Yes?
@@TheWayWithinUs shyness comes from hidden sexual attraction?
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