A knot for pulling Ethernet and HDMI cable

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  • @NGinuity
    @NGinuity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This is neat but honestly, it's a ton quicker and more practical to loop/fold a pull line and then use something non-tacky like painters tape for the transition. They make whole sets of vacuum foam plugs for conduit that have eyelets that you just attach to pull lines for vacuuming as well. They're reusable and cheap, but barring that plastic bags over pulled ends work pretty well too for suction. Instead of the braided paracord, nylon wire sheathing does that job and softens the edges of HDMI and RJ45 plugs, but doesn't add nearly as much to the overall diameter.

    • @WillN2Go1
      @WillN2Go1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point. There are three needs here. 1. Don't damage the plug 2.Firm connection so pulling doesn't pull your 'tape' off the cord (or the plug off the cord) 3. Smoothness so it slides easily through the conduit and around corners. All this beautiful macramé and I can't not notice the corners of that plug sticking out the sides.
      For me pulling wires is all about getting a firm connection to the line. This is determined by the length of the pull line (tape) along the side of the cable. So if 4" just pulls off the cable go 8" so parachute cord running along side the cable wrapped in electrical tape has more area of grip. And always tape over the corners or anything else that can snag.

  • @theastuteangler
    @theastuteangler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    tape. in the field, we use tape. job done.

  • @jakesnowake1
    @jakesnowake1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is great thank you for showing that stopper knot clearly I can never remember how to tie it in the moment but rolling the rope will keep me from getting lost. Also don't listen to the tape guys every tool has its proper application and knowing how to make my own low profile friction knot could save the day on a heavy pull that I'm worried about or on a cold wet day when the tape isn't sticking. Each creative solution expands possibilities and makes the cordage in my truck more valuable.

  • @ls2005019227
    @ls2005019227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kinda surprised after scrolling through the comments, that I'm the first to identify the tool: ROTARY TABLE.
    I always appreciate your information/videos, for the applications that you provide- It's doubtful that I'll ever pull Cat9 cable....but the concept is what I enjoy. The Oysterman's Stopper knot (aka Ashley Stopper knot) is my favorite; it secures nicely in an alpine butterfly loop for a quick release loop.
    For the concept shown in this video,alternatively, you might consider using a "pipe/post/pile hitch" (3-4 wraps finishing on the pulling end of the line with a cow hitch), with an additional loop or two to align the end (connector) with the line.
    It hadn't occurred to me, that you could double/triple/quadruple the line, to produce a bigger stopper knot.... great tip!
    Thanks!

    • @danielpghe
      @danielpghe ปีที่แล้ว

      it's a Cat6 (clearly labeled). From Cat6 above all RJ45 are plated and protected and the wire is hard to bend (except the flat ones).

  • @ScottWConvid19
    @ScottWConvid19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am a tad envious of your knowledge of the way of the rope. I've learned and practiced hundreds of knots, but they don't stay in my long term memory. I chalk it up to not having a comprehensive understanding of knots

  • @37Kilo2
    @37Kilo2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just wrap and tie a couple times, secure with electrical tape; especially use tape on edges that can catch while pulling (basically try rounding them). I used to install low voltage cabling in my younger days, and this is overkill.
    If the EMT/"conduit" is packed full, then use wire lube liberally; those cables will glide through much easier.

  • @MisuracaAntonio
    @MisuracaAntonio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been looking for this for so long. I wanted to do a pull resistance test on a bunch of cables but had problems finding the grip that would keep the cable from bending. I think this might be it, I'll totally give it a try

    • @First_Class_Amateur
      @First_Class_Amateur  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a better video, “wire pulling knot”

    • @MisuracaAntonio
      @MisuracaAntonio ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually saw that video before this one. The problem with that knot is that it forces the cable to bend, since the pulling force is not as well distributed as this one.
      I just tied the Ethernet cable knot you show here, but I did something different with the four strands. Instead of tying them around the plug, I made two bights by using the lovers' knot on the two pairs of rope. These two hooks can be then mounted on a testing machine for the cable pulling test. I'll be using 2.5 mm Dyneema rope for the test, which has a breaking strength of about 1000 kg. It's however a quite slippery material, so I'm curious about how it will turn out.

  • @anonymousbosch9265
    @anonymousbosch9265 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a telephone company “top craft”technician and that knot, though cool, seems way harder than just using vinyl tape and a fold back

    • @pkennedy0219
      @pkennedy0219 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy shit fellas we have a top craft technician here…

    • @anonymousbosch9265
      @anonymousbosch9265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pkennedy0219 it’s a job title meaning I do all the types of field work from splicing to repair and installation. The guy who made the video and people in the industry would know it but I do see how it could sound a bit like I have a dildo in my ass when I originally typed it

    • @mattsadventureswithart5764
      @mattsadventureswithart5764 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@anonymousbosch9265might help if you put the job title in quotes, so that readers will understand it's not a reference to how awesome you might think you are (which is how it reads, sadly).
      I agree with you about the tape. Have used simple tape and folding back the end of the cable many times.

    • @anonymousbosch9265
      @anonymousbosch9265 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattsadventureswithart5764 good idea

  • @ScottWConvid19
    @ScottWConvid19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've never seen someone use a metal lathe chuck or a double wood vise set up like that lol

  • @Nunez87
    @Nunez87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is an incredibly complicated knot just to pull a cable. I know that the knot can cause friction if made like a lump. But this is overkill by a mile. It looks nice I'll give you that.

  • @brizbgarcia1
    @brizbgarcia1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I knew a roller coaster technician.

    • @pdloder
      @pdloder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Roller Coaster technicians don't exist anymore, if they ever did they died out with the dragons. Probably killed by knights errant. But it would be SOO COOL to see one in real life!

  • @NulodPBall
    @NulodPBall ปีที่แล้ว

    First Class Amateur : I really like your view on knots and you made me re-think how to tie two knots but I'm a fairly patient (i.e. stubborn) kinda guy and if I was pulling wire for fun I might think of your "chinese finger cuff" tool (BTW: You can buy a wire mesh version or use mesh braid covers to do the same thing, just tie off as needed) but if I didn't want to have yet-another-tool I'd just use a simpler version of your idea:
    .
    - Use the knot you tied to make a loop...make the loop as long as you want your mesh area to be...larger is better.
    - Start making your mesh near the connector end and continue until you run out of loop.
    ---- I stick the wire through then far end of the loop (the bight), then push the wire against the loop (bight) and pinch the two loop sides that are now facing me (I do the pinching with my right hand).
    ------ Now I move my left hand to my left, do a half twist with the loop portion in my right hand, so the loop pieces form and "X" as I bring the now open section over the end of the cable.
    ---------- I dipped the end of the cable down as I did this.
    ------- Now I repeat the motion, dipping the cable end down again, and I make sure I alternate twists (while never letting go of the pinched loop sides) so that I don't end up with one big twisted mess.
    ----------- If you don't alternate twist directions, you will end up with one great big twisted mess...you will figure this out quickly.
    -------- Keep the resulting twists around the cable tight, but life won't end if you don't....just make a bigger loop and make more twists.
    ----------- How do you make a bigger loop? LOL, you tied a slip knot when you made the loop so just make a larger loop without touching what you've already done...but you're fine if you don't.
    ------- Once you reach the end of your loop (you can't make any more twists over the end of the cable) Just tighten the slip knot so the loop is now tight against the cord, below the connector on the end.
    ---------- Yes, you will get a lopsided spiral around the cable, but it will tighten everything before you apply tension to the rope/cord so you can now push (or pull) the edge of your "mesh" up to the connector on the cable end, then tape the connector to your rope so it doesn't get damaged.
    -------------- Yes, if you really want to waste time you can take some twine or rope and throw a hitch around the connector, but wouldn't you rather save time and use a piece of tape?
    Do whatever you want to do to run the rope/paracord to the end of your conduit (oysterman's knot doubled and a shop vac, a piece of foam and a shop vac, bailing wire, a rope wrapped around a weight) :)

  • @occamraiser
    @occamraiser ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a lot easier to do with a wire loop behind the connector, flattened against the top (either side of the clip) and then the whole thing wrapped in a single turn of tape to flatten the clip and hold the wire flat against the connector. Then fasten the loose end of the wire to whatever cord you intend to pull with - or if going through a cavity wall use enough wire to push right through the hole.

  • @martyschrader
    @martyschrader 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm an electronics guy who doesn't spend a lot of time stringing cable any more (lesser mortals do that for me), but I'm for sure putting this in the kit bag. Thanks a bunch.

    • @aanthanyj
      @aanthanyj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "lesser mortals" ... I think we are all letting this comment speak for itself in regard to the type of person you are... I wish you success and happiness...

  • @aanthanyj
    @aanthanyj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    definitely overkill in regard to pulling cable...
    from someone who pulls cable for a living, the foam "seeker" with eyelet to tie on pull string and vacuuming through conduit is more time efficient...
    and electrical taping (tightly) pull string after using a slip knot around cable/wire... is much more practical for pulling cable/wire through conduit...
    however very informative in regard to new/modern uses for knots...
    Like most of your videos, I enjoyed watching it, & am thankful for you sharing your expertise...

  • @JippaJ
    @JippaJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, cat9.

  • @pikasnipe1
    @pikasnipe1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it high and tight!
    Made me laugh, if you know ya know. L8r mommies

  • @sunriseshell
    @sunriseshell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does this work for bare cable?
    When you pull Ethernet there's no plug on the end.

  • @lightdark00
    @lightdark00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems like if this was done nice and tight, it could add rigidity to some usb cable ends which have weakened.

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point. The non-Apple Lightning cables sure can benefit from a crutch

    • @lightdark00
      @lightdark00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erik_dk842 I've done all kinds of things to the apple made usb cords that fall apart with use to continue to use them. None which look as good as bicolored rope.

  • @peterprivacy5034
    @peterprivacy5034 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the diameter of the conduit you demonstrated this on? Awesome video btw 😊

  • @Ziraya0
    @Ziraya0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you use the paramax size finger-trap as a reusable cord grabber?

  • @rodrigoruiz976
    @rodrigoruiz976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this end up the same as the herringbone pattern used on whips?

  • @trevonwilson2990
    @trevonwilson2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Friends I do this everyday.... Literally.... Just use electrical tape wrapped tightly. It takes less than 5 mins

  • @ktownc936
    @ktownc936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are extremely useful. I got one here. When I go to cut up my wood in the forest how could I transport it back to camp (small logs/split wood). Some kind of harness maybe? Hand held and lightweight?

    • @starfishsystems
      @starfishsystems 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A common and very simple knot for the purpose is the Timber Hitch. It makes up very quickly, holds well on rough surfaces, doesn't jam, and releases easily.
      If you intend to skid a bundle of logs, it's best to make the hitch near the trailing end of the bundle, then carry the line to the forward end by means of half hitches passed around the bundle. These hold it together and distribute the load, plus they're easy to adjust if the bundle rolls with one side uppermost. Even if you're using wire rope or chain, you don't want the tow line to wear out on the ground.

    • @ktownc936
      @ktownc936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starfishsystems yeah, I really can't visualize what your talking about. I was hoping first class amateur would do a video.

  • @RobotoForgoto
    @RobotoForgoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a knot for stopping the poop from coming out of the cat? Think of the time saved!

  • @GreenBambooify
    @GreenBambooify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Milling rotary vise?

  • @gregglockhart9551
    @gregglockhart9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just curious where you learned that technique of wrapping your cords around that antenna? Did you invent it yourself?

    • @First_Class_Amateur
      @First_Class_Amateur  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the knots I show, including this braid, I figured out myself. That’s why most of my videos don’t include knot names.

    • @gregglockhart9551
      @gregglockhart9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@First_Class_Amateur that’s very cool. FYI,you’re doing a 4 stranded braid around an object. This is done in whip making and other horse paraphernalia objects. I can tell you’ve done it a bunch because you’re pretty fast at it.

  • @Chasantnik
    @Chasantnik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fisherman’s knot.

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice 👍🖖

  • @BlankPicketSign
    @BlankPicketSign 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whers is the link to the lighter?

  • @RedBlackDish
    @RedBlackDish ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE! I BEG YOU! Do a video about a knot for eating soup!

  • @jeanhebert2130
    @jeanhebert2130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent thanks

  • @georgemallard4120
    @georgemallard4120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the tool is an indexing head.

  • @michaelbirchall2247
    @michaelbirchall2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always had trouble tying a bundle of things together tightly. But solid things that don't spring back, for example a bundle of copper pipes. Do you have a knot for this?

    • @starfishsystems
      @starfishsystems 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An easy symmetrical knot for this purpose is simply to form a Cow Hitch, then cross the ends behind and bring them forward. As you tighten this up, the crossed lines come to bear against the bundle where friction adequately holds them in place. Secure the hitch more firmly with an overhand if it's temporary, or with a reef knot if it's to be more permanent.
      In case it's not clear how this hitch is formed, try the following. Lay the bundle of objects sideways in front of you. Take a length of line and middle it. Pass the resulting loop upward behind the bundle so that it can be reached from above, while the two ends hang below. Now bring those two ends forward of the bundle and up through the loop from behind, so that they emerge in front. That's a basic Cow Hitch. It's a loop with a pair of lines passing upward through it. Don't draw this very tight yet.
      Next, take each of the two ends and pass them, one to the left and one to the right, around and behind the pair of lines so that they each emerge on opposite sides. It's not much of a change, but it's enough to develop a bit of friction when drawn tight. Do this now, and see if it's good enough to hold itself in place. With a rough bundle of material, it probably will be. If not, go ahead and form the overhand knot in front to develop more friction.
      This knot is easy to remember, quick to make up, applies adequate tension for most purposes, holds well, and tends not to jam. The only factor against it is that the cordage comes under strain from being bent sharply at the loop and the two bights taken around it. The strain can be mitigated by passing the line ends twice around the bundle and through the loop before crossing them behind. The cordage still bends as sharply as before, but the tension is more evenly distributed around the bundle, so that the knot is less of a hot spot.

    • @michaelbirchall2247
      @michaelbirchall2247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starfishsystems Thank you so much. I think that will make a great video!

  • @eh597
    @eh597 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we knitting or we dropping cable? 😑

  • @markifi
    @markifi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the video is interesting, a tad to complicated for the sake of it. the comments are great. none of that really addresses a conduit being almost full.

    • @markifi
      @markifi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      besides, this lashing seems a bit too strong for this application and i'd still prefer two overhands and a bit of tape: don't you want to be able to tear it apart in the rare case of the cable not going forwards *or* back? or can you just back it up 100%? i don't do a lot of conduits, fortunately

  • @alexanderhedglin337
    @alexanderhedglin337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Electrical tape much faster and easier.

  • @Dannerrrr
    @Dannerrrr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd just use electrical tape for the whole thing.

  • @estring69
    @estring69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do like knots, but this is a bit much. I just put enough loops to hold tension and a little tape to keep the cable from binding.

  • @scottsantoyo3835
    @scottsantoyo3835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Mexican finger-trap?

  • @sixoffive
    @sixoffive ปีที่แล้ว

    3:41 looks like Chinese finger trap

  • @paaao
    @paaao ปีที่แล้ว

    Super over kill. Just use jetline, and half hitch knot to the cable and connector. Wrap tightly with elec tape. Add lube that is rated for all cabling types, especially if you are dealing with indoor plenum or riser cables.
    If I had anyone on a job doing what was shown here, they’d be let go before they could finish.

  • @hlulanimhlongo593
    @hlulanimhlongo593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's creative, but time consuming, why not tape everything

  • @samgraham6355
    @samgraham6355 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a finger trap!

  • @leehunter1967
    @leehunter1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🏻🇨🇦

  • @JohnSmith-zw6tr
    @JohnSmith-zw6tr ปีที่แล้ว

    Waaayyyyyy too much work …
    He gets an A for effort!

  • @tritech
    @tritech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd fire someone that took this long to run a cable. While cool looking it's way too impractical.

    • @ScottWConvid19
      @ScottWConvid19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just wait, he might do a follow up video like he did with the gallon water jug

    • @markifi
      @markifi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you fire someone for taking 15 extra seconds? must be nice working for you

  • @wirbelwind2696
    @wirbelwind2696 ปีที่แล้ว

    i prefer icicle hitch for this task ❤

  • @Barnaclebeard
    @Barnaclebeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oooh, *tactical* paracord. Is that legal for civilians to own?

    • @ScottWConvid19
      @ScottWConvid19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You misspelled subjects, but we knew what you meant. Yeah, you can buy it online lol
      This is a free country; I have all the licenses, permits, insurances, registrations, tax receipts and fines to prove it!

  • @kellyash45
    @kellyash45 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great time waster on the job site if you're paid hourly, lol

  • @steamer2k319
    @steamer2k319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like a timber hitch (mainly the series of spaced half-hitches) would be a lot simpler:
    th-cam.com/video/PA_v91VPT_8/w-d-xo.html

    • @steamer2k319
      @steamer2k319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Additionally / alternately, that "water line fix" FIRST CLASS AMATEUR did a while back might help keep the snaggable-tab from poking out:
      th-cam.com/video/mBhShbIKbmY/w-d-xo.html

    • @LostPilotage
      @LostPilotage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem with this method, is the pull force on the friction points is not linear, so you get a bow in the cable, that loose leading edge of the cable gets snagged, bends and hangs-up on a lot of things. For more fragile cables such as fiber you would do damage.
      OPs video is basically creating "Chinese Finger Trap," or a sock for pulling, which will control the tip and pull linear to avoid bowing the cable or damaging.

  • @jmackinjersey1
    @jmackinjersey1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you were being paid by the hour, I'd have told you to go find another job to work at. This is taking way, way too long. I'd have he wire snaked and the plug and plate in the wall by the time you were cutting the first line.

  • @thomasmadden7580
    @thomasmadden7580 ปีที่แล้ว

    You pull wires without termination/connectors on the end…. This isn’t practical

  • @HyperionBadger
    @HyperionBadger ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man 3:55 wasn't a very helpful thing to say in an instructional video.
    Just tell us what it is. It would've taken you another microsecond. But it might take me several minutes. Not cool

  • @mikkolukas
    @mikkolukas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the other person *HAVE* to do activities while you film?
    Can't they wait just a few moments? Sit down quietly, take a cup of coffee, read a book, watch what you are doing - give some space for that little about of time.

    • @markifi
      @markifi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the kid reflected in the background, not making a noise? i agree, inexcusable /s

  • @NickAtkins
    @NickAtkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Colossal waste of time just half hitch it