Wall Wire Fishing Master Class: Run Cables in ANY Wall like a Pro!

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  • Our CTO Marty Cortines reviews his methods for fishing a cable run. Marty has been running cables for over 20 years and has tried just about every tool and method. Marty has wired hundreds of offices for Cat5, cat 6, coax, cctv, HDMI, 70v speaker cabling, audio/video and much more. In this how to video he reveals his techniques for running low voltage cabling in existing stud cavities using just a few common tools. From running cables through ceiling tile to run cables down a wall. Marty choses to use basic tools and techniques to speed up his workflow and spend less time fighting the cable run. If you want to learn to run low voltage cabling like a pro, this is the how to video for you!
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    As IT hardware installers, we find ourselves doing low voltage cable runs pretty frequently and wall fishing is a huge part of that. In this video, Marty shows the tools he uses, how he finds the best spot on the wall to add the workbox (without a stud finder) and different scenarios for actually fishing the cables in the wall.
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ความคิดเห็น • 258

  • @hardrock1826
    @hardrock1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A long time ago, when erecting stud walls, I got into the habit of drilling holes through the studs at a certain height and holes through all cross braces. All with the idea that if at some point any cable was to be run through the walls, I had it covered. Finding those holes is even easier with today's technology, using a camera system. They are so economical to buy and there are a lot of choices.

  • @HostileHitman
    @HostileHitman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Holy cow the sudden South Park clip was so unexpected and hilarious.

  • @AlphasLair
    @AlphasLair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That was so well taught, loved that you showed the other end of the wall for when the string falls on itself haha.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @grimlockarts8386
    @grimlockarts8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I use fish rods in insulated walls all the time. I also use seismic wire often (T-Bar ceiling support wire.). Sometimes jack chain and a magnetic retrieval tool. I never use fish tape for anything other than fishing a conduit. It can get stuck in voids and it's almost always a loss when it binds up in the wall. It works for you in this situation because the wall is open at the top. Props for making the video though. (22 year TX master electrician)

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, everyone definitely develops their own techniques based off the type of installs they do and types of construction. Marty has been doing it a long time 20+ yrs.. but that's the beauty of everyone sharing, more than one way to skin the cat...

    • @Billy_bSLAYER
      @Billy_bSLAYER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Grimlock is absolutely correct on this. IMO, The method in the video demonstrates a wrong way of using a tool...the electricians are going to have a good laugh.

    • @christophercrawford2736
      @christophercrawford2736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. In insulation or with fireblocks it rolls back on itself so I use rods.

    • @Nick-bh1fy
      @Nick-bh1fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Curious what u mean by tbar support wire, r u referring to pencil rod?

    • @ninjamunky
      @ninjamunky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a couple apprentices do this with my fish tape with a spring leader. I guess it ended up getting snagged on a screw tip and could not be recovered. Had to cut it loose..... Ugh. Rigid fiber rods, strings, and weights work best in insulated walls.

  • @Mark-qg5mz
    @Mark-qg5mz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very thorough and detail. I found the way you explain things very useful! Thank you!

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind feedback

  • @Heizenberg32
    @Heizenberg32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When I tape a wire onto fish tape I always start taping from the wire side, overlapping each pass, and continuing for one or two wraps past the end of the wire. This helps prevent things from snagging or lifting the exposed edge of the tape. Continuing to wrap past the end of the cable lets you create a gradual ramp where the cable starts, rather than a sharp angle that snags the lip of any surface you pull over.

  • @jtrgovich
    @jtrgovich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Good video. I've also used flexible drill rods to get through a cross brace. They come in 4 foot lengths and avoid the extra holes need to get patched later.

    • @NateFitzgerald1984
      @NateFitzgerald1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was thinking the same but if there is insulation in the wall sometimes those drill rods can really wrap up a lot of the insulation making it difficult to get them out...besides that and avoiding existing electrical or pipes in the wall the drill rods work well !👍👍😎

  • @earthlingjohn
    @earthlingjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tried my best to get an old school licensed journyman Low Voltage Electrician to install our pre-wire outlet boxes at the same height as the existing power boxes but no, this guy was way smarter than everyone else on the planet and he had certifications to prove it so he would install our CATV/Telcom outlets at the precise height described in the code regulations which invariably resulted in his work being obviously misaligned even when view from accross the room
    Finally found it less stressful to just stay late at the end of the day and go back through to fix his "work"

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is NOTHING worse than boxes at different heights.. LOL

    • @earthlingjohn
      @earthlingjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DPCTechnology
      👍😂😂

  • @PrincernPrince
    @PrincernPrince 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol the whole time I was confused because I though you were trying to find the stud to attach the box until the very end when I realized you were trying to avoid the stud because the box attaches to the wall. I guess boxes that attach to studs are for new construction before the wall is put up. Got it now! Thanks!

  • @Durianpieenthusiast
    @Durianpieenthusiast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely addition to the channel. Definitely in the right direction!

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @jacobw525
    @jacobw525 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can tell that this dude is a runner.

  • @jay1232000
    @jay1232000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely thorough. Liked and subscribed. Thank you very much for sharing.

  • @peterfiedler2813
    @peterfiedler2813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video with some great tips/suggestions. Thank you for providing this. I learned quite a bit!

  • @meenanambiar2248
    @meenanambiar2248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    *Perfect and I’ve used it for ballon arches as **enjoyable.fishing** recommend well as other decor with parties. It is strong and will hold up well. It works so good that another decorator stole my roll at an event!*

  • @_kyttn
    @_kyttn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was so helpful! Thank you 🥰

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @zackmorris25
    @zackmorris25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Marty! You definitely sent me "back to the future.." ;) Great Scott!

  • @christinathissen2131
    @christinathissen2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work Marty! This reminds me of "this old house" :)

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback! He is no Norm or Tommy... LOL!!!

  • @user-qi1qs8zj9t
    @user-qi1qs8zj9t ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent. Thanks mate, you're a master of your trade.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate the kind feedback

  • @Arc618
    @Arc618 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for this through breakdown! God bless

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @mii3000
    @mii3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was super helpful!

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @joshenders
    @joshenders ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @garbo8962
    @garbo8962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My cheap company would never spring for stud finders and it was commercial with all steel studs so I used a few strong gangable round magnets especially in elevator lobbies that had triple layer of 5/8" sheetrock. Every wall had what they called itchy woo! ( thick dense insulation ) .Usually won't roll over when you start from too and fish down. Gangable 4' lengths of fish sticks work great. Had several heavy pieces of fish taped doubled up from 8 to 16' long . Always got thru .

  • @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
    @theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice intro to fishing video. I always use the packing tape with woven fiberglass fibers in it to tape my "can't fail" cable pulls - glue is stickier, tape is stronger and the fiberglass adds extra strength. Costs more but worth every penny.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great tip.. gonna try it out.. Thanks for the kind feedback

  • @andrewbiondo1412
    @andrewbiondo1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When the drywall has not been painted you can see the studs configuration by where the drywall has been screwed into to the studs and mud has been applied to those screws.

  • @quintenclark5280
    @quintenclark5280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when running through conduit, only use the fish tape to get a pull string in there. Or a mouse and shop vac, don't kink up your tape using it to pull wires

  • @marktaylor8163
    @marktaylor8163 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The other trick on an unfinished wall is to use the drywall screw/nail line. Where you see the drywall mud in a line you can assume there's a stud on center.

  • @SicariusGaming87
    @SicariusGaming87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You also have the added benefit in this video on where the studs are at because of the mudding on the wall covering the nails/screws in the wall.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah we usually don't have that help. But a lot of the times you can cheat with them..

  • @randyaivaz3356
    @randyaivaz3356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When needing a secure attachment to the Fish tape. Strip about 3" of the outer jacket, pull strands back then strip off center core then wrap both through fish tape, fold over, twist and tape up. Has a smaller profile and will go through a smaller hole.
    If lots of room, and easy pulls, don't just tape around both tape and cable . Wrap electrical tape around Fish tape a couple times, then around both. Is quick and more secure.
    Cross Brases are also called Cats, or Fire Stops.
    Bullet? Levels are commonly called Torpedo Levels. If you push Fish tape directly from front, and not sideways, Fish will not fold over as fast. I have Electronic Stud finders, but more than 90 percent of the time I use a strong round magnet to find the screws to locate the studs. Is strong enough to follow EMT behind drywall on block.
    Also to find studs, I will pull receptical out of box, feel which side screws are on, and if a 1900 box which is 4", 2" over will be edge of stud. If it's a Plastic Box, loosen receptical push on left then right side of box. The side that won't push in, is where the Stud is.
    Stratmando

    • @hemi4722
      @hemi4722 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why the heck have I never thought of using my strong magnet to find the stud screws 🤦🏽‍♂️ genius idea.

  • @joeoliver9223
    @joeoliver9223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information thanks

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind feedback!

  • @REALstickmansteve
    @REALstickmansteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Six foot drill bit helps with the cross brasses and avoids patching

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% long (6ft) flexible bits help with headers and footers too! Thanks for the feedback!

    • @codeninja1
      @codeninja1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Difficult to put some of the more rigid 6ft drill bits(ones that will actually go through things) up that far into the wall when youre starting from 16” off the floor or so. I moved home a year ago and every damn house has cross bracing.

    • @REALstickmansteve
      @REALstickmansteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codeninja1 right tool for the right job. Haven't had to patch a wall in 30 years of pulling wire... There's always a way no matter what anyone says

  • @practicemakesbetter7132
    @practicemakesbetter7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video, I would like to suggest that when you connect a cable to a fish tape, strip the cable sheath back 2 - 3 inches, then pass one or more of the conductors through the fish tape, finish up by taping the conductors, cable and fish tape together. This method makes a slim, flexible, super strong connection that works well, saving a lot of frustration when trying to pull cables in difficult situations, such as conduits. Your method works well with not too difficult cable pulls.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, great point!!

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t like the fish tape with the hook on the end, I prefer putting the wire directly into a straight fish tape so the sheath goes over the tape and then use electric tape to secure. Also, some type of wire safe lubricant makes the job a lot easier. Of course the magnet systems they have now too can be a good option.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GhostSal thanks for the good suggestions

    • @GhostSal
      @GhostSal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DPCTechnology You’re welcome, thanks for putting out videos to help people. You know the hook on fish tape was designed at a time wire was a thicker gauge. You could take old phone wire and loop it through, then twist it around itself and tape it. It was very secure and easy to pull through but the thinner gauge wire of today would just tear out and that method wouldn’t work well at all today…. And yes, I’m old!

  • @majorredbeard
    @majorredbeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic description, thanks for going into the detail that you do! At one point you said “This may seem obvious”, but that’s exactly the thing that’s good to cover. Good clear communication.
    I’m also wondering how one would go up or down two floors at a time? Obviously the process would be to do one room or wall section at a time, though I’m wondering what I’ll hit when I am behind the drywall and going between floors (Main floor through 2nd floor into the attic, or even Basement -> Main Floor -> Second Floor -> Attic)

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a really difficult problem and it really depends on how the house was built. We would most likely cut an exploratory hole and patch it above and below.

    • @majorredbeard
      @majorredbeard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DPCTechnology With access to the attic would it be possible to try to fish a snake down and see how far you get?
      I’m glad to hear that it’s not an obvious answer, because it doesn’t seem to be one that anyone specifically addresses. Probably because they can’t address is for everyone.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@majorredbeard you can drill down through the top brace of the wall and see how far you get. Maybe try a couple of voids.

    • @freedomisfromtruth
      @freedomisfromtruth ปีที่แล้ว

      I have followed furnace exhaust chimney and there was more then enough room to run wires.

  • @smitlag
    @smitlag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quite a bit trickier in an old plaster wall. Especially when you need to go up a couple floors. I ended up needing those flex bits with an extension to get through the top and bottom plates. Of course true dimensional lumber as well.

  • @Allnonym0u5
    @Allnonym0u5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting I wonder how my hired cabler would go about installing a cat6 cable through the wall and ceiling spaces?

  • @chriswinkelman6016
    @chriswinkelman6016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also for first time doing it after having the box it does help to scoar the lines with a razor to ensure no paint chipping

  • @4ngarag
    @4ngarag ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

  • @jeffclimbs
    @jeffclimbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It sounds like you could use a better stud finder. It's definitely an essential tool for me. I've had good luck with the Precision Sensor brand Costco sells them. Simple and fast

    • @optimumpcyt
      @optimumpcyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you know why you have had great luck with that brand of stud finder? because it is a rebrand of the awesome franklin stud finder. they just paint it green and sell it at half the price. everything else is identical. its a Franklin

  • @stevemorgan5650
    @stevemorgan5650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video. I'm novice but feel like I can run a wire now. Any chance there is another more in depth video on dealing with cross braces? I like that you described what to do but if there are more tips I'd like to see them

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      We are going to do an updated video!

  • @waderowcliffe4807
    @waderowcliffe4807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a low voltage technician. I fish walls by 1st finding the studs. You can usually see the seems above the drop ceilings & use the tricks he mentioned. Just look near the top of the wall. Then cut a hole that will fit your stick with the cables taped on. You then test the wall by pushing your sticks down. You will be able to see how far down they went. Know you know for sure the wall is open & you then cut you MP1/box in the wall. I do the start in the middle trick he mentioned & cut out but I start at the bottom of the cut. I use a pencil & trace it. Now I have a hole i can reach my arm i to & just grab the sticks. Esp when there is insulation. Not sure why he doesn't use sticks with insulation. There make many different types of sticks. I use different sticks when running cable then fishing walls. If there's no Insulation then just start at the top & push the cables down the wall! Lol

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds very similar to how @Martty does it. Everyone will have their slight variations based on preferences etc. Thanks for the tips and feedback man!!

    • @waderowcliffe4807
      @waderowcliffe4807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DPCTechnology You're not kidding Everyone definitely has their own way of doing things And it's the best way in their eyes. Lol I cringe every time I think back to how thick headed I was when I started. I definitely banged my head against and against the wall unnecessarily unnecessarily if I would've listened more to the older guys trying to help me.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waderowcliffe4807 lessons learned in blood... Marty has been working with me since he was 16 (he now is my business partner).. in 20 years he definitely has developed his own methods.. He is not a big fan of gadgets. They tend to slow him down.. but he has been there, done that (like you) and knows the construction methods in our area really well. You don't just pick that up on ur first day on the job.

  • @gusmueller4413
    @gusmueller4413 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i always pull a wire out of the end of my romex and feed one of them through the loop in the fish tape and then wrap it around itself -- this makes a connection that cannot get undone. but your method is faster and would work for more people most of the time. i never learned anything about fish tape= i started using it by myself before the web came along, so that self-developed habit is an example of a technologic use of an object by a pre-contact human

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Experience is the best teacher!!

  • @TheMrbuckeye3
    @TheMrbuckeye3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who is ever going to fish cable up into an unfinished wall? How do you go around corners? How do run cable horizontally?

  • @jerrymontalbano3222
    @jerrymontalbano3222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    First, check that there's no wires or pipes in back of the wall. One can use a small punch instead of a keyhole saw to indicate inside corners (or a small dot with pencil). If the wall is clear behind, one can punch trough or use a wall sensor/detector to chick for wires (deep scan, etc).

  • @tomdonald2495
    @tomdonald2495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "You can cut a foot but can't stretch an inch" so true if you've ever built anything.

  • @donalddluckerii3147
    @donalddluckerii3147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a note. Your first attempt at fishing went behind the stud. If you taped on at the top and pulled down you'd be trying to pull your wire through that tiny gap between the stud and the drywall.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah we saw that.. LOL

    • @donalddluckerii3147
      @donalddluckerii3147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DPCTechnology I usually leave a ball of electrical tape on the end of my fish tape to prevent it sneaking in places like that

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donalddluckerii3147 great tip!

  • @farmerbob339
    @farmerbob339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used Pool Cues on top of paper covered insulation on top of suspended ceilings. Tie a nylon cord to the end, lay the cue on the insulation and smack the end with a hammer and then you hear it hit the wall on the other end.
    I've also had metal Fish Tapes loop themselves when going down an open wall cavity. That was a pain.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's fun to hear everybody's tips and tricks!

  • @jacobzepeda3930
    @jacobzepeda3930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally start at the front of a fish tape while taping and then work my way down to the tip of the cable to make a nice nose so it doesn't get stuck. Then like you said pull a flag going the length of the tape a little bit so the way I'm pulling it shouldn't get caught on anything

  • @freedomisfromtruth
    @freedomisfromtruth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When taping cat5e or cat 6 to a rod, couple times around the rod with electrical tape 1st then the cable secures it better.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback and tip!

  • @NateFitzgerald1984
    @NateFitzgerald1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, detailed and informative, great explanation as well ! 👍👍😎

  • @danbailey2964
    @danbailey2964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's see it with Lathe and Plaster applications.

  • @mikesweeney5685
    @mikesweeney5685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video, did not know about the orange old work box for cable. Thinking about fishing 18/10 sprinkler wire down a sheet rocked wall to connect to a Rainbird sprinkler timer/controller. I will also have to run romex down the wall and install an electrical outlet to power the Rainbird. Would this orange work box do the trick for the sprinkler wire? Then maybe put a cover plate with a small round hole like you would use for coaxial cable? It's for my Mom's house so I want it to look tidy (no PVC conduit for the sprinkler wire, lol). Thanks.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like a great plan

    • @mikesweeney5685
      @mikesweeney5685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DPCTechnology Thanks for the quick reply and input!

  • @Lewdacris916
    @Lewdacris916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First thing i do when wall fishing is make a hole through the wall cap on the top usually wood or sheet metal, then i send fish rods down to make sure i can get to the location of the cut in ring. Often times with wood studs there will be a fire block somewhere in the middle, sometimes 2 of them that you need to penetrate. Usually exterior walls have them and interior do not, depends on the local fire code. Ive done buildings where even the interior walls have them, real pain in the ass but i got 4 foot long bits to handle it. Always fish from the top down, let gravity assist, i only use fish tape in conduit.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tips!

    • @Lewdacris916
      @Lewdacris916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DPCTechnology been in low voltage for 10 years happy to share knowledge!

  • @Behind_the_Electricity
    @Behind_the_Electricity ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video

  • @AndyPerry1972
    @AndyPerry1972 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to put CAT6 cable around our house, mainly for POE cameras I am considering buying but also for general routing back to switches and my wifi mesh. I hate routing internally inside conduit as I think it looks horrible.
    The issue in my house, and I am sure this is standard in all new builds around the year 2000, is that the plasterboard is mostly dabbed and on some walls there is literally about 15mm gap between the plasterboard and the breeze block. I struggle even putting some new plug sockets in due to the depth, but I have no idea how to tackle this as there really isn't that much space to be dropping wires inside. I also want to try to encase them in conduit inside which would obviously be even tighter.
    And I haven't even gone under the floorboards or in the attic yet to see if i can get at those edge locations!
    I have even been tempted to put battons up around the house and place new plasterboard but of course that would shrink all my rooms and in some places I couldn't do that anyway due to doors right on the edge of a wall for example.
    Maybe one day 🙂

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sometime you just have to cut some holes in the wall and patch them later... Good luck!!

  • @tanktexas
    @tanktexas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if there is foam insulation, how do you fish through foam?

  • @RocsMacho1
    @RocsMacho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When attaching my coax to fishing line, I always stripped the wire back a few inches and looped that thru the hook and the end of the fish line, before taping. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @dankrause5665
    @dankrause5665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a video of pulling a wire through the top of a wall that has joists to get through to the next floor?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't, but that would be a great video topic

  • @rcud1
    @rcud1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No reason to not also use a $20 stud finder even though they are not always reliable but they would confirm your stud location most the time and prevent making any unnecessary holes. But one thing I learned here is use my stud finder and go all the way up the wall to check for any cross beams.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If u got it, it's always good to check..

  • @nathancollins5822
    @nathancollins5822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know that you could condense this to make it watchable.

  • @jimragan9432
    @jimragan9432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you have no idea how to mount a cut in box, please leave now. there is a much easier and much faster way to do this. of course, if you are determined to do this the very hard way, continue watching.

  • @rayr5134
    @rayr5134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a video running cables horizontally behind commercial walls?

  • @spadesman_the_first3296
    @spadesman_the_first3296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can those low voltage orange boxes be used with Poe cabling?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes they can. Check your local regulations but in Florida and Georgia you can.

  • @PatrickGuerrisi
    @PatrickGuerrisi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm cable from one point to other but it's on the left side
    So that means to fish my wire about a 2 feet to the right and down
    It's an external wall so there's a cavity between the brick and studs
    Should be doable but tricky
    Do you have any tips ?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      External walls are very difficult. It's had to say..

  • @PetesCreativeRecycling
    @PetesCreativeRecycling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran 6 Cat6 lines though a hole in my wall where I installed a panel, and in that panel I have a network switch. I'd like to have power to that network switch on the inside of that box, but there are zero outlets on that wall. I know I can run a wire down to it and install an outlet, then the wire through the attic down to an existing outlet, but all of those outlets are in boxes by code. How do I fish the wire through a box from the box up to a hole I drill in a stud at the top into my attic OR how do I go from that hole down into that box? All the angles are wrong and the box has sideways nails which hold it to the stud. I cant remove the box to fish from the top down, and I can't fish from the box to the hole up top. What about jacking into the existing line? I'd found said line, but it's stapled to the studs inside the wall and in the attic there is less than a few inches of slack as it's all 1980s Florida code. I don't want to run a whole new line from across the attic. What do I do? Is my only option drywall repair?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, I would call an electrician. Low voltage is something that is easy to DIY, electrical is best left to the pros.

  • @michaelprosperity3420
    @michaelprosperity3420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being in a 125yr old house with wood lathe and plaster and fire stops its a total nightmare. My Fein tool is great for cutting holes. I usually drill a small test hole and put a L shaped coat hanger in and spin it to see where I am.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah we deal with a lot of old construction too.. it can be very challenging to say the least!!

  • @johnwagner5514
    @johnwagner5514 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trying to get a wire up through a wall and in to an attic of a home (commercial work is much easier) can be a difficult task especially when you encounter a cross brace (blocking). Instead of wasting valuable time just get out your multi-tool and cut out a large enough portion of the drywall to fit your drill with bit installed. Drill your hole and run the wire. Cut to the chase. It’s only drywall repair.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is really good advice. I'm going to pin this response. I should have done a little bit more comprehensive section of the video about this technique. In certain cases it's many times easier and often even after you fight the wall for a while, you end up having to resort to this method anyway.

  • @kennyg572
    @kennyg572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Help me> Does it compromised a wall is I drill through the stud? Wont it make the stud weak?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      It shouldn't, but every case is different. If it's just a regular house and then regular vertical stud in the wall. You should be fine.

  • @krisswolf2011
    @krisswolf2011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much praying and hoping. Measure 0 times and hope to cut once I guess.
    When I wired my house with ethernet, I stuck an Airtag on the ceiling where I wanted to put the cable drop. Knocked up and down the wall to make sure there isnt a cross beam. Went to the attic, made sure I can access where the airtag is, if not, I go down and find a new place and move the airtag.
    Once I’m happy with the prospective location and found the airtag from the attic, then I drill the top plate, drop the cable down the hole. Finally I cut out a hole for the box, reach in and pull the cable out. Or stick my phone camera in there if I can’t immediately see the cable

  • @ricodasuave1
    @ricodasuave1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every time he says fish you gotta take a shot

  • @RSCCTV
    @RSCCTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With new construction the SOP would be to run the wiring before drywall is hung.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ideally (SOP) yes! At a minimum when it is still one side..

  • @christophercrawford2736
    @christophercrawford2736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d suggest just marking the box and using a skinny drill bit. No need to make a huge gash in the wall with that drywall saw.

  • @danrozewicz2330
    @danrozewicz2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you pull or run wires in insulated walls?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We still use fish sticks or fish tape.

  • @jerrymontalbano3222
    @jerrymontalbano3222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can you fish tape up through a small hole in doubled top studs?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We would use a long "fish bit" to drill thru the double studs or go from the top down with either fish tape or fish sticks.

    • @grimlockarts8386
      @grimlockarts8386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't, unless you want to practice your cursing skills and rage quitting abilities. There's techniques to location the proper drill down location from the attic void space. If you want some tips ask and I'll share. Fish the cable down unless you have to pull it up. Either way you still fish down, then connect and pull the cable up.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimlockarts8386 thanks for the tips and feedback!

  • @jrfjosh
    @jrfjosh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hehe he said fish sticks.
    You like fish sticks?? 😂

  • @jxsilicon9
    @jxsilicon9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what would you use in a wall with insulation?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the same method. Just a bigger fight

  • @lohengrinknight
    @lohengrinknight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When do you use that type of box? Is that a box extension?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm assuming you're talking about the orange box?. It's for when you are doing work on an existing building. It simply a ring that a faceplate can't affixed to. They're very common in the United States

    • @lohengrinknight
      @lohengrinknight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DPCTechnology thanks! So you use those instead of the blue boxes?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lohengrinknight correct

  • @LetTheTruthBeTold8324
    @LetTheTruthBeTold8324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    glow rods, chain and magnet, or magnapull.

  • @abelsaldana9554
    @abelsaldana9554 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How to go around or through a fire wall block when fishing a cable???

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thant can be very difficult and the building code is different in every country/state/region. My advice would be to hire a local contractor. The last thing you want to do is have a fire and have to deal with the repercussions.

  • @mrabudabi
    @mrabudabi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You fished the wire into the next wall cavity. Metal studs have openings I them and you unkownling fished the wire through that opening and into the next cavity. That is why u had so much drag....I should do videos

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That definitely happened! LOL 😂

  • @Wizardboz
    @Wizardboz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your telling me that it’s not a wood stud but a metal stud with a crap ton of holes to run cables. That shit is easy af

  • @nunyabusiness3920
    @nunyabusiness3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Third week at Comcast tech class.

  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about horizontally?

  • @richardbratton6254
    @richardbratton6254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can see where the studs are because they have mud over all the vertical screw holes,just avoid those.

  • @weaesq
    @weaesq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    CAT7 and CAT8 cables for higher speed are preformed with a shielded RJ45 plug on each end. How much harder is it to fish an ethernet cable with an RJ45 plug instead of just raw cable without the plug end.

    • @weaesq
      @weaesq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Any tips on attaching it to the end of the fishing wire?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weaesq It is harder, but not impossible. The key is prep, make your tape job to the fishing wire/string as smooth/aerodynamic as possible, also make sure any holes you cut in the header/footer are a bit larger. It may take some patience but u can do it!

    • @ttss5726
      @ttss5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you even attempt to with rj connectors on it. Takes 30 to add one after pulling the cable. Saves time if you mess up the connector

  • @hdlivemodels
    @hdlivemodels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Crawl sprace" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ckirkyg
    @ckirkyg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the infatuation with no just using a stud finder... What do they cost about 8-10 bucks at hw store??

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the walls we are in (commercial) they are often wrong....

  • @Jay-bf2cg
    @Jay-bf2cg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That tape tag you made when attached cable to fish tape is no good!! It’ll get snagged when pulling through the studs. You should show the correct way to attach the cable to the fish tape.

  • @Zwilnik-ls7nh
    @Zwilnik-ls7nh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting, but what about using a moosie and getting passed dwangs.

  • @xincarceratedx
    @xincarceratedx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    facial expressions made me laugh throughout

  • @totheknee
    @totheknee ปีที่แล้ว

    4:16 - Lol, what is the camera person doing at this point in time? Marty had to say it twice and glance over at the camera thinking "WTF is the camera doing on my stud face still?" 🤣 And they ended up having to make a full cut in editing, lol!

  • @zakidine
    @zakidine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol, I'm looking for a similar solution
    But all these similar videos aren't about concrete walls

  • @2aoregonboy216
    @2aoregonboy216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hm just use an offset bro easy to find your "hidden" studs.

  • @qasion
    @qasion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Today I had to reject a job wiring for tv outlets. To my surprise the client inside walls were from stucco!? My magnet couldn't find studs like I usually do.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      It happens!

    • @qasion
      @qasion ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DPCTechnology I was afraid of not finding a cavity to drop my cables from the attic.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qasion you were smart to move on

  • @ttss5726
    @ttss5726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cross brace is not what you state its for they are called fire blocked and once drilled you need to fill the hole. Bad info pal

  • @leapers124
    @leapers124 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Use a stud finder cheap tool

  • @korgaun
    @korgaun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a hollow wall... Just dropped it from the top and boom you have your wire. If you are in a house you want to drop it on the other side of the electrical because of induction. Either way I have rarely seen anyone food from the bottom up because there is usually a header at the top blocking you. Some of these video's are full of it.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Marty was using as an example, as u probably know, every one is unique!

  • @johng9562
    @johng9562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marty, and I'm only saying this because I care, there are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing....

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If he would only.. 😂😂😂😂

  • @Eric-qx1kx
    @Eric-qx1kx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My procedure is completely different than this but neither is necessarily right or wrong, just different ways of doing it, that's the way telecom is, there is often multiple ways to do something......and there are tons of people in the industry who think their way is the only way and I find those people are insufferable....lol.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% this is such a great take!

  • @jimbrown341
    @jimbrown341 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why couldn't you just use a stud finder and eliminate all the guesswork in the beginning?

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology  ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they aren't always accurate

    • @jimbrown341
      @jimbrown341 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DPCTechnology Couldn't you confirm its accuracy by testing out other studs on the wall and measure 16" from those points to see if the stud finder is marking locations correctly? Just thinking logically about the problem of a potential issue with a stud finder.

  • @ianmostowy4582
    @ianmostowy4582 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    You have no idea what you're doing. You say that having a stud finder is a nuisance but somehow you are ok with punching holes in clients finished walls and repairing them. There are so many things wrong with your method that i have been inspired to make a video of my own. To anyone watching this video please know that you need to use a stud finder that also identifies electrical cables. YOU NEVER PUNCH BLINDLY INTO A WALL!!!!!!

    • @TheChimikun
      @TheChimikun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Where is that video you were inspired to make? You haven’t uploaded it.

  • @diamondKingnow
    @diamondKingnow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obviously you never official wire through mobile home wall cuz they set them right in the middle of the wall every time for electrical outlets they have specialty boxes for that