I feel like I see curiosity control decks a lot, but I never see the curiosity really get any value. This goes to show that wow, drawing cards a lot is very powerful.
That Lego Racer's playmat is funny! I had that game on my Nintendo 64 when I was a kid. Its theme song still pops up in my head from time to time. Great video and game!
Really enjoy these budget matches, it makes cEDH feel more approachable for the less well financed among us. I appreciate that prices change, but even with $100 moving target, it's much more affordable than than the typical $1000-$3000 (or more) decks with all the fast mana, fetchlands, etc. Great match with constant interaction and near wins every turn after round 5.
I really appreciate the budget brews to demonstrate that you can have fun and play strong focused decks without needing to break then bank or feeling like you need to proxy everything all the time.
@Alex Bergie Did you have a point with that comment? Budget cEDH is for all intents and purposes casual compared to full prize decks, just focused like David said.
@Alex Bergie I was complimenting the players on building well tuned decks to push the boundaries of power on a budget. I didn't say anything about cEDH being bad. It is fun to see how far you can push things with different card pools while playing to win.
I ended up buying the Thrasios/Vial list to play as is and I must say it is super fun at various power levels. You can really just disrupt people all day at a casual table while assembling some huge value engines. Managed to draw 5 cards by putting keen sense on mayhem devil with a Korvold deck at the table. The combo lines are compact and resilient but not cheesy enough to upset people. This deck also has great upgrade paths with cards like Demonic consultation (currently $25!) and various tutors or better interaction. I aim to buy Mr. Flips next since it just looks so fun.
I started watching this channel right when it came out, but have never actually played cEDH. As my interest in cEDH is growing, i have slowly been picking up cEDH staples (mox diamond, LED, wheel of fortune). If i join the patreon, would there be enough support to help me build a deck based on most of the cards I own, and then put the cards to the test?
Oh 100%. I’d strongly recommend that everyone in the comment section join the PWP Patreon discord. For as little as $3 a month you’d get access to a massive group of cEDH players who would be willing to assist in deck construction and playtesting.
you can always find help on our patreon discord. We also have games from time to time as well. In the meantime, I would suggest you take a look at some beginner tutorials to help you out. th-cam.com/play/PLZ9hH5QFtqPaNyNK7SHnfreSdtXCaSglw.html
My table doesn't like full power cedh because it's too toxic and for the current meta I agree so seeing budget decks while keeping a cedh mindset makes for an interesting game and gives my friends and I ideas
I'm a little surprised to see that 3-mana ramp and counters still made the budget lists... surely there are more efficient spells that still don't cost a fortune?
Does Walking ballista fit into curiosity control? I think, if we aiming for Kinan/monolit win ballista is just better, its not a dead card on its own, you can shoot the opponent's dorks, or even draw couple of cards if enchanted withth curiosity, then recurre it for the win.
I’m curious. How do y’all measure your budget? Is it based off the market price? Low? Do decks that were previously budget become illegal if the market fluctuates? What’s the range if their is one etc.
We base it on market price. It has to be $100 at the time of building. We cannot control the market, so if it rises afterward, we can't do anything about it.
I just came across this video and plan on trying the marwyn build but I was wondering on suggestions of which 2 cards could be changed out for a craterhoof behemoth and the ozolith
verity circle is great but you really can’t 1-for-1 elves and counters get a lot worse once there are 15 of them already in play. i wonder if most valuable card was actually deafening clarion
Oh gosh, I love Izzet and Izzet things, but this combo is too much for even me. It's like each turn is one of the turns where you're going to go off, but you don't, just because of all the doubling or not doubling. Seems like a lot of potential for spinning your wheels, and if you get nothing, you've just taken more time than usual. I've got a Melek deck. Maybe I'll try the two and see how unbearable it is lol
@@andrewl9191 I guess, that’s why I like kalamax, cause he can reliably combo and win with any payoff, and even if you don’t have a payoff he gets huge
@@kingginger3335 that would be cool, thanks. I’m trying to make my ezuri renegade leader deck more competitive on a budget and i only need a few more pieces before it’s functional. The reason I didn’t switch to marwyn is because I’m afraid of not having enough payoffs for infinite mana, so I’m curious to see what your friend is running
I just started the video, but the first thing I immediately think is: wow the top two playmats are WAY TOO BUSY, I can hardly make out what is happening on the board. Maybe something to consider for the future.
@@chihshiangshee9002 Flip trigger on the stack. Flip heads, the flip creates a copy of the spell on the stack. Krark's trigger resolves. After the trigger resolves, priority is passed along the table. So there is a point where the Flip trigger has resolved, but before the copy which is now on the stack resolves. That's when the 2nd copy of High Tide got countered.
i actually built a thrassios & Smasher deck on a slight budget and i was wondering, should i not run ad nauseam if i cant afford to play with all the 0 mana artifacts?
@@passprioritypodcast That never makes sense to me. If you're gonna have a budget for your deck, then your budget should encompass all 100 cards, which includes commanders. Otherwise having a specific ceiling for a budget challenge is just meaningless
It just depends on the situation. Personally I like the budget to include cmdr, cause I want to build a whole new deck on a budget. Though a decent amount of people already have the commander or are set on a commander and will splurge on that one card.
Most people building on a budget are willing to spend more on their Commander. Swan Song is good but hard to justify as a single card in 99 you may or may not draw. Where as you can build a Budget Thrasios deck because you know every game you're going to have Thrasios. Budget EDH, to me, is more about crafting the 99 to be as powerful as possible while considering cost. It's about having to decide between Beastmaster Ascension or Overwhelming Stampede as a wincon, because lord known Hoof is out of the question.
@@strickermic very true as well. Still somehow rarely see it. Stifle is better for after the consultation though. Just make them toss their deck and die next turn.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG marwyn was tapping for 4 so with a lord would it not have 2 +1 counters? Being a 3/3 on its own? Never went back and checke so not sure.
At the time of recording the deck was actually $98, of course prices fluctuate and the deck is now worth a little over $130. (Not including the price of the commanders) Turns out building a 4c mana base with a $100 limit is quite challenging!
@@DanMeisterZ the deck is hidden under the card preview in the middle of the video. I've got a bad habit of moving my hand all over the place when I play online. Was probably showing the other players how many cards I had in hand.
I love seeing your budget decks, the cEDH budget brews discord has a ton of good decks for around this price or less, as a matter of fact, I have neat lil brago deck that's mean as hell. and believe it or not, I got a $100 blue pod, while my friend built a $100 blood pod, come check it out :)
It is a very cost-efficient win con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
@@nathanward2204 My only complaint towards fetches is accessibility to players just coming into the game because even just getting 1 of each for commander is pretty pricey. In gameplay terms, I don't mind ThOracle. I only wish that it didn't win when the devotion is zero on resolution is all lol
I mean, at that point I could've done a lot of things to win the game. Isco loops with reality shift, or assembling a curiosity combo with niv-mizzet. Thoracle just happens to be the most efficient wincon, and after a two hour slugfest I decided it was nicer to the other players in the game to assemble the simplest wincon instead of some 4 card combo. The win really came from Kinnan + basalt monolith.
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
You are right, though, sometimes it would be nice to watch a cedh game without a thoracle win. I'm not sure I've seen anyone not use blue in one of these videos, as if blue is the backbone of cedh
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
@@nathanward2204 if I wanted to watch the same win repeatedly, I'd watch Yu-Gi-Oh games, not commander with literally thousands of options for a fun new deck
@@Bammab127 Then why are you watching? It seems as though all you want to do is complain. Make your own content then if you are not pleased with Playing with Power
@@Bammab127 As someone who is in multiple videos and part of the patron I know they read their comments. But why do you expect them to change for you? it's a budget video and in all ways thorcle is cheap. Not to mention playing with power means optimal and concise win cons. If you can tell me a better win con for Cedh that is just as efficient tell me and others I'm sure we'd love to know. If you don't enjoy free content and stop complaining because this is a patron game.
I have two things to say about this video: first of all deafining Clarion killed things it shouldn't have killed, it only deals 3 damage. Second thing: man thassa's oracle wins are so freaking boring, the game was great but winning with this idiot card was so stupid... I thought in a 100 dollar budget things would be a little different at least...
What shouldn't Clarion have killed? Elves was one turn away from going off and feeding Thrasios/Vialsmasher some more. Are you against Lab Maniac wins as well? Because they could have also won using that as well.
Would any other 1 card instant win have been any better? It's the same outcome, resolve 1 card win the game. So what does it matter that it was Thoracle instead of balista, jace, labman, torment, etc? Thoracle is just the best version.
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
I was pained and thrilled to see my meatball children (Krark & Sakashima) destroyed so often. Don't sleep on Curious Control, folks!
Verity Circle against an elf deck is SOOOO good.
So many Mana dorks in my meta. It's an auto include.
Yea, it’s a fantastic meta call
Killer lego racers playmat and fantastic game to watch!
I was about to say! Where can I get me one of these?
@@thegreenrobby7402 Sameeee
Cedh budget games are always so intetesting
Jeez, the amount of countering Greg was doing was obscene.
This was fun to watch and a bit different. It felt like normal EDH but with a lot more interaction, and tuned quite a bit.
I feel like I see curiosity control decks a lot, but I never see the curiosity really get any value. This goes to show that wow, drawing cards a lot is very powerful.
Curiosity was an absolute powerhouse this game. This list, in both budget and cEDH forms, generates an absurd amount of card advantage.
Yea curiosity did its thing
In a game where the best tutors are out of budget, drawing an obscene number of cards will certainly be the ticket to winning.
The
pace is way more interesting than game nights IMO
Easily my favourite channel to watch. Just recently got into cEDH cuz of you absolute legends
Loved this episode. Great to see budget decks fighting!
That Lego Racer's playmat is funny! I had that game on my Nintendo 64 when I was a kid. Its theme song still pops up in my head from time to time. Great video and game!
Really enjoy these budget matches, it makes cEDH feel more approachable for the less well financed among us. I appreciate that prices change, but even with $100 moving target, it's much more affordable than than the typical $1000-$3000 (or more) decks with all the fast mana, fetchlands, etc. Great match with constant interaction and near wins every turn after round 5.
The last cedh video I watched didn't have a deck that was less than $10k
I really appreciate the budget brews to demonstrate that you can have fun and play strong focused decks without needing to break then bank or feeling like you need to proxy everything all the time.
@Alex Bergie Did you have a point with that comment? Budget cEDH is for all intents and purposes casual compared to full prize decks, just focused like David said.
@Alex Bergie I was complimenting the players on building well tuned decks to push the boundaries of power on a budget. I didn't say anything about cEDH being bad. It is fun to see how far you can push things with different card pools while playing to win.
Oh my God Drew, I love you for your Lego Racers playmat!
Thanks!
I ended up buying the Thrasios/Vial list to play as is and I must say it is super fun at various power levels. You can really just disrupt people all day at a casual table while assembling some huge value engines. Managed to draw 5 cards by putting keen sense on mayhem devil with a Korvold deck at the table. The combo lines are compact and resilient but not cheesy enough to upset people. This deck also has great upgrade paths with cards like Demonic consultation (currently $25!) and various tutors or better interaction. I aim to buy Mr. Flips next since it just looks so fun.
Yes another budget game. These always amaze me knowing you can be competitive even at a budget . So much interaction.
Budget decks are a great way to see cards besides the usual suspects. Always an interesting watch.
I really like watching these budget videos, they're neat.
I played the saka/krark list adding some fetchlands and hace so much fun. Loved the list! Nada
Ooooh, elves! My favorite videos! Still waiting for K'rrik on budget))
Krark returning Drew’s own couterspells and interaction gave me a good chuckle. One of the downfalls of the deck I suppose.
But then he got a few back from the graveyard through Mission Briefing. That is an awesome interaction.
@@fatmanDH yeah that turn was so nice
Drew’s playmat *chefs kiss*
😘👌
Drew's Lego Racers playmat is badass
I love the budget brews. pls keep these coming.
Love budget cedh!!! Hoping for a teshar or malcolm+breeches/vial smasher storm either at $100 or full budget sometime
I have a $100ish list I've been playing if you'd like to take a look at that
Card prices might very changed but I only spent lik $124 on it
Never noticed the stats before. That was a nice touch.
Omg I NEED that LEGO Racer playmat. I thought I was the only person who ever played that 😭
I'm glad you made verity circle the mvp, that card was insane in this game
We should just drive up the price of oracle so we never see it in budgets again xD
Built a krark sakashima deck for less than 100$ to compete with my playgroups competitive decks. Turn 5 wins are a constant.
Okay! I see you repping them dragon shield sleeves
I'm curious on what the alter Sean is using for Marwyn
I started watching this channel right when it came out, but have never actually played cEDH. As my interest in cEDH is growing, i have slowly been picking up cEDH staples (mox diamond, LED, wheel of fortune). If i join the patreon, would there be enough support to help me build a deck based on most of the cards I own, and then put the cards to the test?
Oh 100%. I’d strongly recommend that everyone in the comment section join the PWP Patreon discord. For as little as $3 a month you’d get access to a massive group of cEDH players who would be willing to assist in deck construction and playtesting.
you can always find help on our patreon discord. We also have games from time to time as well. In the meantime, I would suggest you take a look at some beginner tutorials to help you out.
th-cam.com/play/PLZ9hH5QFtqPaNyNK7SHnfreSdtXCaSglw.html
My table doesn't like full power cedh because it's too toxic and for the current meta I agree so seeing budget decks while keeping a cedh mindset makes for an interesting game and gives my friends and I ideas
Damn, it was like Drew was the archenemy, lol
It sure felt like at times lol
Omg is that marwyn a kangaskan?! That’s so precious
LEGO RACER PLAY MAT BRO, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I'm a little surprised to see that 3-mana ramp and counters still made the budget lists... surely there are more efficient spells that still don't cost a fortune?
Does Walking ballista fit into curiosity control? I think, if we aiming for Kinan/monolit win ballista is just better, its not a dead card on its own, you can shoot the opponent's dorks, or even draw couple of cards if enchanted withth curiosity, then recurre it for the win.
I considered running it, $16 is a lot for one card in the list tho :/
More of these please!
Where does one get a Ryan with Ryan MTG playmat? My bame is alsi Ryan, though I appreciate Mark going for it.
I’m curious. How do y’all measure your budget? Is it based off the market price? Low? Do decks that were previously budget become illegal if the market fluctuates? What’s the range if their is one etc.
We base it on market price. It has to be $100 at the time of building. We cannot control the market, so if it rises afterward, we can't do anything about it.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Which market? EU or USA?
@@DanMeisterZ US
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Nice. Might try brewing one up myself.
Sort of a dumb question, but how does Marwyn win with infinite? No craterhoof or anything.
I just came across this video and plan on trying the marwyn build but I was wondering on suggestions of which 2 cards could be changed out for a craterhoof behemoth and the ozolith
Hi all, I was the Thrasios/Vial smasher player if anyone has any questions about that game.
In you’re eyes, who was the biggest threat at the table that game?
@@MerxTheWizard definitely the Krark/Sakashima deck lmao. Was on the verge of winning the entire game.
Were all the decks really at or under the $100 limit? There were definitely plenty of $5-10 cards included. Your commanders alone add up to nearly $50
@@ethanclaffy9585 these decks were built a few months back and we didn’t include the price of commanders in the deck.
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL
verity circle is great but you really can’t 1-for-1 elves and counters get a lot worse once there are 15 of them already in play. i wonder if most valuable card was actually deafening clarion
How did marwyn die??? If she was tapping for 4 mana that means she was a 4/4 and the spell only did 3 damage???
RIP Cark with a C
It's nice to see Thassa's Oracle winning without Pact/Consultation for a change.
this top comment spoiled it for me 🥺
What’s the name of the theme song at the beginning of your videos?
I love krark/sakashima
Oh gosh, I love Izzet and Izzet things, but this combo is too much for even me. It's like each turn is one of the turns where you're going to go off, but you don't, just because of all the doubling or not doubling. Seems like a lot of potential for spinning your wheels, and if you get nothing, you've just taken more time than usual.
I've got a Melek deck. Maybe I'll try the two and see how unbearable it is lol
❤️❤️❤️
@@andrewl9191 I guess, that’s why I like kalamax, cause he can reliably combo and win with any payoff, and even if you don’t have a payoff he gets huge
Was almost a perfect game but ended in another oracle win, also sad Zirda didn't get to pop off.
Why did Marwyn die to that Clarion ? Wasn't she a 4/4 at that time ?
It lost one point of toughness when the Perfect died.
My buddy has $50 Marwyn deck that consistently wins on turn 4 about 60 to 70% of the time.
decklist?
@@bend5963 I'll see if he has it on Moxfield and then get you the link. It's basically just filled with ways to untap Marwyn to cast huge spells
@@kingginger3335 that would be cool, thanks. I’m trying to make my ezuri renegade leader deck more competitive on a budget and i only need a few more pieces before it’s functional. The reason I didn’t switch to marwyn is because I’m afraid of not having enough payoffs for infinite mana, so I’m curious to see what your friend is running
very spicy game!
Indeed!!
no love for malcolm kediss or malcolm kediss?
I just started the video, but the first thing I immediately think is: wow the top two playmats are WAY TOO BUSY, I can hardly make out what is happening on the board. Maybe something to consider for the future.
Any chance we'll see a Abazan (Tymna/kodama) cEDH budget game?
This could be cool! I'll look into it when we do our next budget series -Mike
Greg had ALL the AnSwErs.....
Lego Racers 😍
Question: can someone respond after the flip is done or do they have to decide what to do with it before the flip happens.
Flipping is part of the resolution, you have to decide before the flip.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG if that is so then how did the copy of the 2nd high tide get countered after the flip resolution.
@@chihshiangshee9002 Flip trigger on the stack. Flip heads, the flip creates a copy of the spell on the stack. Krark's trigger resolves. After the trigger resolves, priority is passed along the table. So there is a point where the Flip trigger has resolved, but before the copy which is now on the stack resolves. That's when the 2nd copy of High Tide got countered.
How about a vintage-banlist game soon? :)
I do not understand why the deafening clarion killed everything the Elf commander easily had +5 counters on it?? It was turn 6 I think
Imperious Perfect was buffing the creatures. When it died, it lowered their toughness to killing range.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG but not the Elf commander herself, the plus 1’s would have still been there, maybe I’m just missing it.
i actually built a thrassios & Smasher deck on a slight budget and i was wondering, should i not run ad nauseam if i cant afford to play with all the 0 mana artifacts?
If the average cmc of the deck is greater than 2.5 then no dont run it
@@issacpalmer4715 the average cmc of my deck is 2.01 is that still too much?
I honestly think that's fine. You'll pull average 10-18 cards from ad nauseam. Thats plenty to go nuts with
A $100 budget when Sakashima is $40, Thrasios is $30, and Vial Smasher is $15? I'm skeptical
Wasn’t including the cost of commanders in the deck price.
@@passprioritypodcast That never makes sense to me. If you're gonna have a budget for your deck, then your budget should encompass all 100 cards, which includes commanders. Otherwise having a specific ceiling for a budget challenge is just meaningless
@@RetroPokemonTCG idk man, it was the guide we all decided to follow when we built our decks.
It just depends on the situation. Personally I like the budget to include cmdr, cause I want to build a whole new deck on a budget. Though a decent amount of people already have the commander or are set on a commander and will splurge on that one card.
Most people building on a budget are willing to spend more on their Commander. Swan Song is good but hard to justify as a single card in 99 you may or may not draw. Where as you can build a Budget Thrasios deck because you know every game you're going to have Thrasios.
Budget EDH, to me, is more about crafting the 99 to be as powerful as possible while considering cost. It's about having to decide between Beastmaster Ascension or Overwhelming Stampede as a wincon, because lord known Hoof is out of the question.
I have a question. Is stifle currently popular in the cEDH meta? I feel like I've not seen at all and is the best thing to stop Oracle wins.
or you could just counterspell the thassa xD
@@strickermic very true as well. Still somehow rarely see it. Stifle is better for after the consultation though. Just make them toss their deck and die next turn.
@@deathwarrior6962 and if ya dont have a Stifle, then Tale's End works well too
Angels grace is another fun one!
Stifle is definitely intriguing. Stops many other stuff too. For example Dockside, Isochron, Godo etc.
Why didn't anyone play winota? It's the best budget CEDH deck
I hope Drew's coin is soft and light. I cringe every time it lands on a card.
I have since used a lighter coin lol
Even in a budget setting youre not safe from Thoracle
did i miss something? why did marwyn die to deafening clarion?
Imperious Perfect died too, so it wasn't +1/+1 anymore.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Couldn't really tell how much elves were played.. but they get +1+1 counters right? so was it lower then 3?
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG marwyn was tapping for 4 so with a lord would it not have 2 +1 counters? Being a 3/3 on its own? Never went back and checke so not sure.
I knew once I saw Thrasios and Vial Smasher that the deck would be over budget.
At the time of recording the deck was actually $98, of course prices fluctuate and the deck is now worth a little over $130. (Not including the price of the commanders) Turns out building a 4c mana base with a $100 limit is quite challenging!
I wonder if any of these guys get tired of running Thrasios...
Not one bit, Thrasios/Vial is my favorite deck so far and I’ve been constantly updating it as the meta shifts.
Do you get tired of running your favorite deck?
Such a GG guys
Vial smasher wouldn't trigger curiosty on the casting curiosty
It doesn’t, it triggered vial smashers ability. I never drew a card off of casting curiosity.
@@passprioritypodcast you are correct. Didn't saw you deck but saw you play with your hand(?) So I thought you drawed
@@DanMeisterZ the deck is hidden under the card preview in the middle of the video. I've got a bad habit of moving my hand all over the place when I play online. Was probably showing the other players how many cards I had in hand.
@@passprioritypodcast nice! Also my bad for not checking it twice or thrice. I liked the deck
@@DanMeisterZ thank you! It was a blast to play
I challenge you guys to play a game without blue!
We already have :)
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG just giving you guys shit 😚 i enjoy the content! Cheers!
Marwyn's player should have won if he had created an elf with Imperious Perfect u.u
I reaaaaallly like that krark list
So do I lmao. I’m very proud of it 😎
Even budget cedh ends with a thassas Oracle win….. 😒
Krark
I feel like these ''CEDH'' decks would lose to many casual decks :p Just summon a 5/5 beatstick
If the game goes long, otherwise the cedh deck will win on t3.
@@passprioritypodcast But they are very inconsistent on a budget.
@@andyik9009 100% true
@@andyik9009 Yeah but they'll still win consistently turn 5-6 which shits on a casual deck.
Infinite mana thrasios win is so excruciatingly boring now.
I love seeing your budget decks, the cEDH budget brews discord has a ton of good decks for around this price or less, as a matter of fact, I have neat lil brago deck that's mean as hell. and believe it or not, I got a $100 blue pod, while my friend built a $100 blood pod, come check it out :)
Even in the budget episode ThOracle wins lmao
It is a very cost-efficient win con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
@@nathanward2204 My only complaint towards fetches is accessibility to players just coming into the game because even just getting 1 of each for commander is pretty pricey.
In gameplay terms, I don't mind ThOracle. I only wish that it didn't win when the devotion is zero on resolution is all lol
They don't have a sense of who the threat is do they
Bring Sydri :)
Oh look another thoracle win, big surprise
I mean, at that point I could've done a lot of things to win the game. Isco loops with reality shift, or assembling a curiosity combo with niv-mizzet. Thoracle just happens to be the most efficient wincon, and after a two hour slugfest I decided it was nicer to the other players in the game to assemble the simplest wincon instead of some 4 card combo. The win really came from Kinnan + basalt monolith.
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
You are right, though, sometimes it would be nice to watch a cedh game without a thoracle win. I'm not sure I've seen anyone not use blue in one of these videos, as if blue is the backbone of cedh
Boop
Its not a cEDH.
boring win tbh, was hoping one of the other decks would win instead of the usual oracle win
You should rename your chanel to "Playing With Thassa's Oracle"
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
Even budget can't escape thoracle bs
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
@@nathanward2204 if I wanted to watch the same win repeatedly, I'd watch Yu-Gi-Oh games, not commander with literally thousands of options for a fun new deck
@@Bammab127 Then why are you watching? It seems as though all you want to do is complain. Make your own content then if you are not pleased with Playing with Power
@@nathanward2204 because I expect more from them, plus you know some people actually read their comments right?
@@Bammab127 As someone who is in multiple videos and part of the patron I know they read their comments. But why do you expect them to change for you? it's a budget video and in all ways thorcle is cheap. Not to mention playing with power means optimal and concise win cons. If you can tell me a better win con for Cedh that is just as efficient tell me and others I'm sure we'd love to know. If you don't enjoy free content and stop complaining because this is a patron game.
I have two things to say about this video: first of all deafining Clarion killed things it shouldn't have killed, it only deals 3 damage. Second thing: man thassa's oracle wins are so freaking boring, the game was great but winning with this idiot card was so stupid... I thought in a 100 dollar budget things would be a little different at least...
What shouldn't Clarion have killed? Elves was one turn away from going off and feeding Thrasios/Vialsmasher some more.
Are you against Lab Maniac wins as well? Because they could have also won using that as well.
Thoracle is just the strongest wincon in the game. It wouldn’t be budget cEDH if we didn’t try to play the strongest cards out there.
Would any other 1 card instant win have been any better? It's the same outcome, resolve 1 card win the game. So what does it matter that it was Thoracle instead of balista, jace, labman, torment, etc? Thoracle is just the best version.
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
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Fun until the fucking thoracle 🙄
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I really hope oracle gets ban soon. Every game is just who resolves it first. Cedh is so boring.
Bruh what are you doing on this channel
It is a very cost-efficient win-con both in-game and money-wise. However, it is the backbone of the format so you can't really complain anymore. It would be like complaining about fetch lands in Modern.
@@nathanward2204 i think its a very reasonable complaint when the vast majority of matches all play out exactly the same. Its stale and dull.
@@brennanclement8582 I like cedh. I dont like when every match plays out the same way and is just a race to exile your deck and oracle.
@@galleon1924 I am surprised to see you say you like cedh after saying "cedh is so boring"