Stability is not about bugs or crashes. Stability means no breaking changes. I.e. it tries to guaratee that tomorrow everything will continue to work exactly the same way as it works today. Even if something works wrong or crashes, you can rely on that behavior and be sure that it will continue to do so. With notable exception of security vulnerabilities of course, security patches tend to be backported.
Yeah, stability. Not many changes, aka more reliability. Less crashes are an automatic byproduct with this. You wouldn't ship an unstable package to a stable distro ever.
@@MichaelNROH The biggest problem with "unstable" systems is actually when you go to update and some software has changed fundamentally in function and you must adapt to it. Crashes haven't really been a problem in my experience.
Linux distribution is basically a set of things, like init system, de sound server, display server etc, so I choose only those distros that are based on the most relevant system elements, like Fedora that runs on the newest yet stable software and have many maintainers. From this point of view there only few distros for an average user - Fedora and Ubuntu since they both have big teams behind them and use fresh yet well tested software.
I agree. Once someone gets familiar with Linux and maybe even the philosophy of companies, they can always switch. As an entry point, they are perfect though
Of those things you named, most distributions I've used only actually select one of them (the init system), and even that can be switched out with enough effort. To me, a distribution is little more than a set of defaults.
For Nobara, the other users and paying attention to GE's pinned messages mitigates a lot of the guesswork when there is a problem. Most of the time, it's not GE and Nobara itself having the problem. It's more often than not something outside of Nobara and GE's control. He does a great job keeping things running well on his end.
@@MichaelNROH It's a marvelous improvement for the demographic nobara targets. Fedora is great depending on how you look at it. You don't mind some proprietary software in your distro if it means having access/better performance on some applications(e.g. Games)? Nobara targets you. You are explicitly a gamer and thus would prefer your distro to have gaming-related stuff pre-installed and pre-configured since you were going to install it anyway no matter the distro and would prefer an OOTB experience instead? Nobara targets you! You would like to benefit from different defaults in your OS that are most suited to running games? Nobara targets you. This doesn't mean that fedora isn't great, since we could see it the other way around: You want a fully foss OS ootb? Fedora is for you You don't want gamer bloat to be pre-installed in your OS? Fedora is for you You want sane defaults for the entirety of the linux app ecosystem, and not just gaming apps? Fedora is for you. Nobara is a marvelous improvement over fedora when it comes to gaming, not anything else.
@@MichaelNROH Yeah Nobara is honestly more of a glorified post-install script than anything lol. Which is actually great as it means 99% of troubleshooting for base Fedora applies and checking the Nobara website first fills in any gaps. Been nothing but please with Nobara since I swapped and I doubt I'll change unless GE stops maintaining it (which I hope doesn't happen, I hate swapping distros lol). If it does I'll just go back to Pop!_OS
Linux improves so fast each year as a daily driver. Compared to what I experienced 5 years ago, now fedora doesn't give me any headaches compared to what I remember what was like on pop os or manjaro. As a windows user the less I have to open the terminal and look for tutorials, reddit or wiki, the better for me and so far it has been like that on Fedora. I know the Linux community may get mad at me for saying that, sorry haha.
I discovered that the Linux is far more solidified than its given credit for. For most things, you don't even need the terminal, but its often the default go-to in guides. There are edge cases of course, like audio whereas you might not find a GUI, but its incredible what is possible
I would agree. There is plenty of space for distros that let the user choose and create their own experience, so a few of the big names providing a hassle free experience is good to see.
@@MichaelNROH The moment one of the big tech support it linux will be thrown into the spotlight mainstream. At the end of the day, I don't care what distro/DE people use I am just happy to see people discovering linux and when someone like MS or Adobe decides to support it with their software then it'll get pushed even further into the market
I had too many problems with Pop when I tried it, but remember that Manjaro is a rolling release, so the stability shouldn't be expected to be quite as high as Fedora.
@@Scoobin I mean manjarois a good concept but its poorly managed/executed and for that I won't recommend people to use it but all my arch use is on pure arch without using the aur(i dont trust packages in aur)
@@WhiteG60 You have to disable secure boot. Then you can boot Arch distros. I got this problem yesterday. My new laptop wouldn't boot Arch distros, I disabled secure boot in bios and It runs fine Don't use Manjaro, EndeavourOS is much better option, no "pamac" shenanigans. Also that crashes could be related to some wierd behaviour where that "s" would run some buggy command from the package, or even a file that you have.
@@katnax3059 or you could use reborn os, which has quickly become my favorite arch distro. They seem to take updates a tad bit slower then the others and it shows sometimes. That delay in upgrade releases can be the difference between a 4 hour uh oh wombo combo someone forgot to link libraries situation in the new version (I am referring to the gio version mismatch incident) and a swift patch to address the big oops moments
@@foss_soundAfter some tweaking, I’ve managed to bring my installation of Debian Stable a lot closer to the present state of Linux in general. Some of the biggest systemwide tweaks were installing the up-to-date Liquorix kernel, adding several verified up-to-date .deb repositories, and integrating Flathub as an app store.
Some advice I’ve received in the past is to count the number of contributors to the repo of the distribution you’re considering. A lot of these specialty distributions only have one or two contributors which means you’re never getting timely support and are vulnerable to that person just burning out and walking away suddenly. For my work desktop I won’t run anything but Debian but I might try all kinds of weird distros or desktop environments on my “project” PCs.
That's good advice. Sometimes its also worth looking into, why that distro was created. If it just utilizes some custom patches that get worked into stable branches at some point, they might also not be maintained as soon as that happens
Been using nobara for a week now and it works beautifully 1 day and literally the time I wake my pc, it could be broken. I've done nothing but setup steam so far. It's pretty frustrating but how well it works, WHEN IT WORKS, is keeping me sticking.
I just switched my study laptop to fedora yesterday... coming from a (already debloated) windows 11. I'm enjoying gnome so much, it's so cool that there's a way to do anything if you google it. Hope I won't mess up, I'm so excited! I think my SOS plan would be to hop to a more windows similar distro like zorin or mint, but I hope I won't have to do that
_should have been reported to KDE neon rather than Plasma_ The problem is that the average user does not know where to put these bug reports. I - as a non-IT-professional just have no idea what really causes the issue. I also do not have the time to spend several hours to find out which bugtracker the right one is. I would be also happy if I could just dump the bug report on a large pile and the bugtracker team or "AI" sorts it out. I would even be fine when I get a clear answer like "please do not report anybugs".
Bugtrackers can be kind of a pain as well. On some websites its near impossible to find duplicates if there is no proper way to filter results. Makes looking up issues or correct informatio even harder
The word "stable" can mean different things, but I think most people only care if their system works, and all their software works as expected. I had been trying to permanently switch to linux for 10+ years and what finally got it to stick for me was using arch linux. Ironically, it has been the most "stable" distribution I've used. The two other distributions I spent the most time with were Ubuntu and Linux mint, but I would eventually break my system trying to install things not in the default repos. In my situation, "stability" meant realizing that I wanted the latest packages, and so I needed to use a rolling release distro to have the greatest chance of having a workable system. Although things like flatpak are starting to change that notion.
As a noob it's too easy to get lost in the sauce with all the distributions there are certainly way too many forks of popular projects that have like 20 extra packages and a theme preinstalled with a fancy website that advertise themselves as a whole new thing for an entirely different use case.
Part of this issue is the way how software development works. Contributing a positive change (or changes) can take a long time to review and polish, so some just release their own distro for it.
I do write codes and using tools like Docker and VS Code and so for developers, sticking with the big boys like Ubuntu is the best since they are well known, they have packages for developer work. For gaming, Steam and Lutris can be installed as flatpaks, if not included in the linux repo, so that part is solved, pretty much an overwhelming majority of linux distro can gaming.
The biggest problem with those distros is they won't support the newest hardware. There's also the fact that new kernels come with improvements for gaming, as well as new drivers.
I use Fedora cause i want to have updates especially hardware support related as soon as possible. But still want it to be less prone to update issues like Rolling Distros. And i dislike YAST so anything Suse related is not en option. And even when Nobara is better for gaming. I would ratter to the changes myself (with tutorials) so i know more about potential issues.
rolling release update issues aren't as common as you think. But I would be lying if I didn't say that I have made many dumb mistakes before learning how to keep an arch system going smooth. These days any issues I encounter tend be freak accident package releases that are patched like 4 hours after the first sign of an issue. Got hit 4 times in the last year with those short lived instances. 4 hours out an entire week and I get nailed by 4 boot load problems under grub and systemd. Luckily, thanks to AI assistance I was able to learn how to properly chroot into my drive to fix these issues without needing a backup or a fresh reinstall recently.
@@josephlh1690 i got a ArchVM since nearly as long as i got my Fedora installation. So i know that Fedora even when using testing updates is more reliable less effort.
I am in the process to migrate to Nixos, I have been in diferent distros, the ones I have come back where fedora and arch, I am still learning nixos on a vm and i like that it seems easier to set up a way to replicate the system.
It's essentially just one configuration file you need to setup yes. It's great for multiple deployments, but I'm not sure if the effort is worth it on a personal machine. If you like it, sure
In early 2022 I bought a laptop with PopOS, and late in 2022 I installed Manjaro on my main PC. I did run into some issues, but nothing that prevented me from using my computers, and I eventually got them resolved. It seems as time went on, I had fewer issues, and I learned the systems better. I have recently finished completely leaving Microsoft Windows, after getting a couple ongoing issues resolved. One was just an issue with a relatively new printer I had purchased (I had purchased it only a few months before I decided to switch to Linux, so I didn't check to make sure it was supported in LInux). That was just a matter of time for the developers to provide the drivers for my particular model. The other was just a matter of better understanding the tools I was using (Lutris and Proton for playing Windows based games). Although my main computer has Manjaro on it, I have a secondhand computer that still runs Windows 10. Now that I'm able to do all I want to with my Linux computer, I'm considering installing a Linux distro on the secondhand computer, but likely something different than what's on my main computer.
I used to use Arch(EndeavourOS to be precise as my original Arch install got demolished by an update and instead of setting it up again I went for endeavour) with Plasma, but plasma 6 introduced some nasty bugs on top of already existing bugs, in general for me it wasn't that good even on 6.0.3, so I just went to zorin OS, now Reaper DAW doesn't crash when loading VST plugins with yabridge(wine bridge) and the DE is stable.
This is why the Universal Blue images (Bazzite, Bluefin, etc) have the GTS/Grand Tour Support as an update channel. It's not massively old like LTS is, it's just permanently the previous based on previous Fedora release (so 38 rn). But, say you want latest stuff? Just rpm-ostree rebase to latest channel, or edit your image builder recipe to the appropriate channel/version. I'll likely stay on F39 myself for my Bazzite and Aurora-DX images, until I could jump through all the KDE improvements going straight to F41-based.
100% agree, the ublue images are awesome! At least updates will never brick your system. Can't wait for the f40 image release, they do everything, that I would layer anyways on Silverblue + they do things, that I simply cannot do.
Garuda Linux distro feels more stable to me my WIFi hasn't even dropped once on it and it was made for gamers if you guys want to convert to a Linux gaming computer I highly recommend checking out the Garuda distro not for beginners of Linux.
I'm on CachyOS with Hyprland, been really great. Devs are responsive and we have a good community on Discord. I prefer Arch and Arch-based too much to swap at this point.
I don't see NixOS as a proper Desktop experience. The main reason is, that most don't want to write a config file. Don't get me wrong. It's awesome and I would use it in a business sense for setting up workstations, but I don't see a benefit on a personal workstation except being just fun
The biggest issue I have found so far with regards to the choice of Linux distro comes from two particular factors. These are the installer and the terminal syntax. Due to limitations of the most common installers I ended up sticking with OpenSUSE. This is because I use multiple SSD's in my PC and other distro's I have tried don't allow me to select them for auto-mounting as pert of the installation process. This ended up with me not being able to use some of my drives. While some of you may know how edit the right batch files in order to fix this, that is way beyond what someone who is new to Linux will be able to fix themselves and while I did try looking up guides on how to fix this issue, that brings me up to my second point: a lot of guides are written in command line and only cover one or two syntax types. These are generally Debian/Ubuntu and/or Arch. Again, while someone experienced in using the command line through a multitude of different distro's may be able to just say 'okay, if it says do this in Ubuntu I can just do this in OpenSUSE' but the majority of people will not.
if u wanna auto mount drives then jus install gnome disk utility or kde partiton manager depends on what desktop env u r using or what u prefer doesnt matter tho then jus select ur drive and therell be a setting icon below click that and select mount options then de select auto mount and then rest you should know what to do and then boom all ur drives (if u do this on every drive u have) will be auto mounted on boot
Tuxedo OS has been a pretty good experience for me so far. Upgrading to Wayland in the terminal per their website made the experience a lot smoother. It seems no one cares about X11 anymore. They ship X11 by default, because of Nvidia machines. Truthfully there are many factors that can affect the user experience in Linux. You just have to find one that suits you. IMHO KDE, Gnome and Cinnamon are all great. I'm looking forward to seeing how Cosmic by System76 turns out. One thing is for sure it's all a million times better than Microsoft Windows.
i use NixOS, not because everything works out of the box, but because it’s a very cool concept and when things break you can always rollback any changes to the last working version
Let's say I want a bleeding edge version of linux. I want to choose EASILY versions of kernel, desktop, drivers (nvidia)... I want to be able to roll back ad libitum without efforts, I mean with 1 minute coding.... AFAIK NixOS is the only option here.
If you want a reliable rollback, then there is no way around a fully fledged backup solution or backup copy. Every other rollback is file system dependent and only works until it breaks. On Fedora for example, they keep two older kernels and remember the configuration, so you can easily boot an older update state. This however only works if your filesystem isn't corrupted
As someone who has experienced filesystem corruption on NixOS and who keeps minimal backups, you really can't tell that it ever broke outside of the persistent error counters that the filesystem keeps track of. People are seriously underestimating the ability to reinstall from scratch to a state identical to just before breaking. Yes, you do need to backup the config, but that's a lot less to back up than _the entire filesystem._ So little that it often gets backed up to _Github._
In my experience, distros also sometimes really matter when experiencing issues with hardware. On Fedora I was having a problem of my monitor losing signal with my GPU after selecting the distro in GRUB menu, but if I first logged into Windows, then rebooted and tried logging into Fedora, there was no issue. I still don't know what exactly was causing it - tried numerous hardware- and software-related fixes and workarounds with no success. That was happening on kernel 7.3 and 7.4. Then I switched to EndeavourOS, and here I've been free from that issue so far (on kernel 6.8 currently), but now have a different (less critical but annoying) problem of the kernel or distro not liking something in my CPU/RAM overclocking settings and causing random reboots or freezes, which means whenever I'm in Linux (which is 90 percent of the time) I have to run it after selecting stock BIOS settings, and then if I log into Windows for gaming, I select the overclocking BIOS profile for that. Not ideal, but at least I can use the distro without issues.
Hardware issues can come from a lot of things and aren't always related to the kernel. Some drivers don't ship with it by default, as they are not yet Open Source or properly backwards engineered. The fastest way to determine that is the follow the dmesg - log (kernel buffer). Open command line and type "dmesg" (mabye "sudo dmesg) and look for red messages. Sometimes you'll see some hardware related info like realtek something, something.
@@MichaelNROH Another place to look for sources of problems would be under systemd's journalctl. If there is ever a place where warning messages and error messages would popup it would be there. And you are correct in stating that not all issues are related to the kernel. If you are in need of bleeding edge hardware support, it is a decent bet that using the closed source or non-free as they call it, driver will work better while the opensource version is built up. Every pc can end up being a different story with linux so it is good to know what your options are, lest you end up with the wrong first impressions.
@@josephlh1690 No, I was using 7.4 and 7.3 actually, and found that booting in with 6.6.14 instead was allowing me to bypass the issue, but it wasn't a long-term solution of course, and nobody who responded to my thread on Fedora forums really had an idea to nail down the source of the problem, so that finally led me to try switching distros, which of course also meant trying a different kernel. And on a different distro and different kernel, I'm having a different kind of issue, so just wanted to highlight how different distro/kernel combinations can solve/expose different issues.
@@MichaelNROH I tried looking into outputs of "inxi -Fmxxz output", "lspci -n -n -k | grep -A 2 -e VGA -e 3D", etc, but I don't think I used "dmesg". Will keep that in mind for the future, thank you.
i can relate to that issue because i updated from kde plasma 5.27.1 to kde Plasma 6.0.3 and switcht from x11 to waylan. I experienced some graphical glitches or some basic functions not working as intended so i had to update kde 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 to get the bugs fixed in my distro. My personal wish for a linux distro should me a relative stable experience with regular updates that i can install automaticly or manualy with a stable base and reliable updates that should not cause a detruction of my OS. i mean most stuff i do on a PC is gaming, Browsing, using some apps for comfort or buisness and thats it. If i wanna use like a homelab i use a much more stable distro that gives the support i need for the server use it and hope not to upgrade it the next 3 years.
I keep hearing Linux support is getting better and better....Only to run into the same bugs I had 5 years ago or into new ones which haven't been seen before. It seems every single piece of hardware I have triggers all edge case bugs present in Linux, even when said hardware is compatible with Linux.
Always nice to hear these types of things even if you’re an experience Linux user. It’s very easy to get stuck in a certain line of thinking. I ran Arch for a couple months this year. Honestly it’s pretty great from the perspective of you do everything yourself. That’s a double-edged sword however though. It sometimes feels like the “problems” never end. Updating to Plasma 6 broke my system in weird ways. Certain stuff from Plasma 5 still worked for the first week. Like the theme persisted until one day when I logged on and it was set back to the default Plasma theme. Just weird wonky stuff finally drove me off Arch. Now I’m chilling on Windows trying to find a distro I want to use since Win11 24H2 is going require I remove a lot of tweaks I use.
based on what you have written I would recommend the stable version of Fedora, it is reasonably up to date, but still stable. I use arch on my main system and fedora for work, fedora gives you way less problems if you want to work with a DE. there is a kde spin and a gnome spin
Huh. I have to be the luckiest man alive cuz ive never really had problems with arch. Maybe it's a result of a pathological avoidance of GUIs and trying to keep a pretty lean system overall.
@@marsimplodation arch at home, fedora at work is my set up as well :). Although id run arch at work as well if microsoft defender, which is required by my employer was officially supported on arch.
@@stugeh I use Fedora at work, because the rest of the company does so, I can give better support when I actually use it as well instead of my hyprland arch setup
@@marsimplodation you work in the it department i guess? I do find myself missing the aur quite a bit. Having to periodically build my tools from source manually is a bit of a chore when i can just do a 3 letter command on arch to get those updates without thinking about it too much :p
Still seems a high barrier to entry for beginners. I'm currently running windows 10, and with it's support running out, and recall being added to windows, it's looking more and more like I will have to switch. I'm a beginner, although for a little while I did try ubuntu and mint -- it was okay but I had problems with some of my hardware, and then I still get annoyed with package managers. I like to go to the internet, and specific websites to get the most up-to-date "stable" versions of my favorite software, I don't like relying on some other "store" type of program (i realize it's not a store where you have to buy stuff), where the software might not be up-to-date or I might have multiple copies of the same software on my system, and still not no which version I'm using. Then was the issue of keys and passwords, sooooo many passwords to do something to your system, and while Windows has tried to increase security, I can pretty much set it up to where I don't have anything to do other than just run stuff. They also had just as many updates as I do in windows. I do like the fact I'm not forced to update, but it just seems like we always have to download something else. I miss the days when I could just go to the store, get an OS and install it, and didn't have to deal with updates and such.
Linux mint is noob friendly. Ultra stable. Never crashes. I use it for my desktop because I want a system that just works for a daily driver. I also dual boot windows which I use for gaming. I don’t install anything else on windows besides games so will hopefully stay performative for a long time. Not too much happening on there for MS to data scrape.
@@youtubevanced4900 - I might do something like that myself. (dual boot) I need to get a new drive though, and I don't have money for that, so I'm just stuck until I can get enough money to buy some new stuff
This feels like it is leading into benchmarking videos. It would be cool to see setting up different software for benmchmarking like sysbench, hardinfo, geekbench, phoronix, and mangohud, as well as testing different distributions to see which perform what tasks better on different hardware.
While I also think it is a bummer, it does make sense why they decided that they wouldn't ship it as Plasma 5.27 is an LTS release, also there is the chance that they backport Plasma 6 on the LTS like what they did with 22.04 when they backported 5.25
And yet it is the right decision. People go to LTS because they don't want the latest features AND bugs. These are people who actively avoids the short-term releases or don't want to really think about their OS they use for work and only need it to be somewhat up to date. If user REALLY want to use KDE 6, they can just use the kubuntu-backports PPA. The important thung is that it's not there by default for the massive amount of people who don't really care about using the latest thing all the time. Especially with how 6.0 is in many ways a prelude to 6.1. LTS really don't want to do major version updates unless they have to, that's just the opposite of what it promised at all. So either they have to ship a major update midway or have people stuck on the earliest release of KDE 6 with all thr problems that either of those entails.
Is there a channel that can also talk about the hardware you need to build a Linux Desktop PC and how to overclock GPU and use CPU fan controller on Linux.
I've been using Linux since 2004. If you want stability, go with Debian or LMDE. If you want the latest software, Arch is the way to go, especially now that archinstall exists. Fedora was my main for a long time, but it's just not what it used to be since IBM bought Red Hat. Every other distro seems to have a bunch of garbage you don't need, like Snap or YaST, or they like to retheme everything. And I don't recommend Manjaro--they can't even get SSL certificates right, so why would I trust them with my operating system? I will admit that I haven't bothered with EndeavourOS because of archinstall being a thing now.
@@interests357 That's not what I said. I didn't hate Fedora just because IBM bought RedHat. I said it isn't what it used to be. Specifically, I started having more weird bugs and other issues with it a year or two after the IBM acquisition. I actually kinda like Nobara these days because GloriousEggroll is trying to fix things up on Fedora for home use again, but I've run into a couple of issues that prevent me from using it as my main.
I primarily tried Mint Edge 21.3 and EndeavourOS. I play competitive online games, and Linux has very limited support there. So Windows for life for me. Mint was simple to use, but nothing I could do would get a wireless controller to work for my Steam games. So irritating. That was no issue in Endeavour, but the system is too much command line. It's 2024, not 1974.
Literally any minimal rolling release distro like Arch, Gentoo, or NixOS (even LFS if you're crazy). The "xfce flavor" is called "install xfce". I'm pretty sure Arch and NixOS both have graphical installers that let you select a desktop environment from the GUI, where you can choose to use xfce over the other options.
I'm just trying to use my elgato facecam and wave on roll20 and discord and streaming to TH-cam. But mostly roll20 via Brave. Which distro is best for this?
In fedora there is a issue in the firefox browser it cannot play videos When i try playing them using vlc they crash Installing nvidia drivers semi-fixed it
I Installed ZORIN 17 On A PC! It Did Not Take Me Long To Install Synaptic Package Manager And Install PLASMA Desktop!! So I Am Now Running Zorin Plasma Edition Or Simply Debian With The Plasma Desktop Environment! I Found Zorin To Be BORING As It Did Not Allow Me To Customize My Desktop To Look Like Windows 7 With Stardocks Windows Blinds Running On It Except With My Buttons Being On The Left As Mac Does! Which Is The Layout I Have been Using Since Windows Blinds came Out Around The End Of XP!!!
I'm sure anyone who has Windows is happy with Microsoft and supports the company and has to pay a lot of money for it every month should pay$ 456 to the company for using your computer.. Pay us money, too. Why not?
@@Rayyan-hi2ge This is not targeted at distros. It is about others asking me if I've tried this or that solution, including apps, Desktop Environments, Distros or even settings
It doesnt matter which distro you pick(except for asian ones). Linux is Linux. Same problems diffrent formats. Still better in most ways than windows. Even ZorinOS...
@@stefanalecu9532 For me, its the Security Concern. I dont know how much some of the asian government is interfering in the process of the development of the distro. IT DOESNT NECCESSERLY MEAN THAT A DISTRO IS UNSECURE BECAUSE OF THAT. But there are versions of Linux i wouldnt reccomend to install, such as allknown RedStar OS (i hope the reasons for that are clear).
Honsetly I installed fedora a week ago because I'm uneployed and bored. Cyberpunk 2077 runs 15 frames faster than on windows, but that's because my ram is slow (2400mhz) but appart from that if you don't care about the os appart from using it to run your apps and games, which is fine, then Windows is ok.
@@siz1700 I remember that video about MacOs vs Windows where windows was the boring corpo guy and Mac was the funny guy. Now it seems it's the other way around.
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Stability is not about bugs or crashes. Stability means no breaking changes. I.e. it tries to guaratee that tomorrow everything will continue to work exactly the same way as it works today. Even if something works wrong or crashes, you can rely on that behavior and be sure that it will continue to do so. With notable exception of security vulnerabilities of course, security patches tend to be backported.
Yeah, stability. Not many changes, aka more reliability.
Less crashes are an automatic byproduct with this. You wouldn't ship an unstable package to a stable distro ever.
@@MichaelNROH The biggest problem with "unstable" systems is actually when you go to update and some software has changed fundamentally in function and you must adapt to it. Crashes haven't really been a problem in my experience.
Linux distribution is basically a set of things, like init system, de sound server, display server etc, so I choose only those distros that are based on the most relevant system elements, like Fedora that runs on the newest yet stable software and have many maintainers. From this point of view there only few distros for an average user - Fedora and Ubuntu since they both have big teams behind them and use fresh yet well tested software.
I agree.
Once someone gets familiar with Linux and maybe even the philosophy of companies, they can always switch. As an entry point, they are perfect though
Of those things you named, most distributions I've used only actually select one of them (the init system), and even that can be switched out with enough effort. To me, a distribution is little more than a set of defaults.
For Nobara, the other users and paying attention to GE's pinned messages mitigates a lot of the guesswork when there is a problem. Most of the time, it's not GE and Nobara itself having the problem. It's more often than not something outside of Nobara and GE's control. He does a great job keeping things running well on his end.
That's true. Nobara is a marvelous improvement over Fedora
@@MichaelNROH It's a marvelous improvement for the demographic nobara targets. Fedora is great depending on how you look at it.
You don't mind some proprietary software in your distro if it means having access/better performance on some applications(e.g. Games)? Nobara targets you.
You are explicitly a gamer and thus would prefer your distro to have gaming-related stuff pre-installed and pre-configured since you were going to install it anyway no matter the distro and would prefer an OOTB experience instead? Nobara targets you!
You would like to benefit from different defaults in your OS that are most suited to running games? Nobara targets you.
This doesn't mean that fedora isn't great, since we could see it the other way around:
You want a fully foss OS ootb? Fedora is for you
You don't want gamer bloat to be pre-installed in your OS? Fedora is for you
You want sane defaults for the entirety of the linux app ecosystem, and not just gaming apps? Fedora is for you.
Nobara is a marvelous improvement over fedora when it comes to gaming, not anything else.
I wish I can run Nobara but it just can't read the battery sensor on my stupid Asus laptop so Fedora it is.
@@MichaelNROH Yeah Nobara is honestly more of a glorified post-install script than anything lol. Which is actually great as it means 99% of troubleshooting for base Fedora applies and checking the Nobara website first fills in any gaps. Been nothing but please with Nobara since I swapped and I doubt I'll change unless GE stops maintaining it (which I hope doesn't happen, I hate swapping distros lol). If it does I'll just go back to Pop!_OS
Linux improves so fast each year as a daily driver. Compared to what I experienced 5 years ago, now fedora doesn't give me any headaches compared to what I remember what was like on pop os or manjaro. As a windows user the less I have to open the terminal and look for tutorials, reddit or wiki, the better for me and so far it has been like that on Fedora. I know the Linux community may get mad at me for saying that, sorry haha.
I discovered that the Linux is far more solidified than its given credit for.
For most things, you don't even need the terminal, but its often the default go-to in guides.
There are edge cases of course, like audio whereas you might not find a GUI, but its incredible what is possible
I would agree. There is plenty of space for distros that let the user choose and create their own experience, so a few of the big names providing a hassle free experience is good to see.
@@MichaelNROH The moment one of the big tech support it linux will be thrown into the spotlight mainstream. At the end of the day, I don't care what distro/DE people use I am just happy to see people discovering linux and when someone like MS or Adobe decides to support it with their software then it'll get pushed even further into the market
I had too many problems with Pop when I tried it, but remember that Manjaro is a rolling release, so the stability shouldn't be expected to be quite as high as Fedora.
@@Scoobin I mean manjarois a good concept but its poorly managed/executed and for that I won't recommend people to use it but all my arch use is on pure arch without using the aur(i dont trust packages in aur)
I think I just transferred to Linux in a very convenient, promising, and exciting time!
If I wanted newest DE, then I would use Arch and it's derivatives. I got Plasma 6 on EndeavourOS pretty quickly.
You get it even faster on openSUSE Tumbleweed. A new Gnome Version is shipped 1 to 3 Days after official Release. Same with Plasma
@@WhiteG60 You have to disable secure boot. Then you can boot Arch distros. I got this problem yesterday. My new laptop wouldn't boot Arch distros, I disabled secure boot in bios and It runs fine
Don't use Manjaro, EndeavourOS is much better option, no "pamac" shenanigans.
Also that crashes could be related to some wierd behaviour where that "s" would run some buggy command from the package, or even a file that you have.
this comment confuses me. you phrase it like you don't use arch or its derivatives and then you say you're using endeavouros
@@katnax3059 or you could use reborn os, which has quickly become my favorite arch distro. They seem to take updates a tad bit slower then the others and it shows sometimes. That delay in upgrade releases can be the difference between a 4 hour uh oh wombo combo someone forgot to link libraries situation in the new version (I am referring to the gio version mismatch incident) and a swift patch to address the big oops moments
@@WhiteG60KDE Neon is a developer distro, not a daily-driver distro for end users. They even state this on their website and documentation.
Debian, Mint, Fedora - great distros I can recommend to (close to) everyone.
Small and hyped distributions lacking support sooner or later. Always.
Mint for beginners
@@Totallynotmwa And pros without a need for distinguish oneself and a need for a hassle free distro.
@@foss_sound Yep
@@foss_soundAfter some tweaking, I’ve managed to bring my installation of Debian Stable a lot closer to the present state of Linux in general. Some of the biggest systemwide tweaks were installing the up-to-date Liquorix kernel, adding several verified up-to-date .deb repositories, and integrating Flathub as an app store.
Some advice I’ve received in the past is to count the number of contributors to the repo of the distribution you’re considering. A lot of these specialty distributions only have one or two contributors which means you’re never getting timely support and are vulnerable to that person just burning out and walking away suddenly.
For my work desktop I won’t run anything but Debian but I might try all kinds of weird distros or desktop environments on my “project” PCs.
That's good advice.
Sometimes its also worth looking into, why that distro was created.
If it just utilizes some custom patches that get worked into stable branches at some point, they might also not be maintained as soon as that happens
I just use fedora the best middle ground between stability and newer updates
Stable Debian 4 life. Things work, I'm happy, that is all.
Currently on Zorin. I like the design, it's modern and simple. My first distro.
Zorin sure is simply beautiful.
I broke the taskbar couple times so now I'm on Fedora with Zorin look😂
it was my distro for a week and a week later im using arch
@@ItsAlce that's quite a jump
Quick advice: don’t be anxious and wait for the stable version of things.
I've been using nobara for over a year and for the most part, it was a great experience, not perfect.
Been using nobara for a week now and it works beautifully 1 day and literally the time I wake my pc, it could be broken. I've done nothing but setup steam so far. It's pretty frustrating but how well it works, WHEN IT WORKS, is keeping me sticking.
I just switched my study laptop to fedora yesterday... coming from a (already debloated) windows 11. I'm enjoying gnome so much, it's so cool that there's a way to do anything if you google it. Hope I won't mess up, I'm so excited!
I think my SOS plan would be to hop to a more windows similar distro like zorin or mint, but I hope I won't have to do that
_should have been reported to KDE neon rather than Plasma_
The problem is that the average user does not know where to put these bug reports. I - as a non-IT-professional just have no idea what really causes the issue. I also do not have the time to spend several hours to find out which bugtracker the right one is.
I would be also happy if I could just dump the bug report on a large pile and the bugtracker team or "AI" sorts it out. I would even be fine when I get a clear answer like "please do not report anybugs".
Bugtrackers can be kind of a pain as well. On some websites its near impossible to find duplicates if there is no proper way to filter results.
Makes looking up issues or correct informatio even harder
The word "stable" can mean different things, but I think most people only care if their system works, and all their software works as expected. I had been trying to permanently switch to linux for 10+ years and what finally got it to stick for me was using arch linux. Ironically, it has been the most "stable" distribution I've used. The two other distributions I spent the most time with were Ubuntu and Linux mint, but I would eventually break my system trying to install things not in the default repos.
In my situation, "stability" meant realizing that I wanted the latest packages, and so I needed to use a rolling release distro to have the greatest chance of having a workable system. Although things like flatpak are starting to change that notion.
As a noob it's too easy to get lost in the sauce with all the distributions there are certainly way too many forks of popular projects that have like 20 extra packages and a theme preinstalled with a fancy website that advertise themselves as a whole new thing for an entirely different use case.
Part of this issue is the way how software development works. Contributing a positive change (or changes) can take a long time to review and polish, so some just release their own distro for it.
I do write codes and using tools like Docker and VS Code and so for developers, sticking with the big boys like Ubuntu is the best since they are well known, they have packages for developer work. For gaming, Steam and Lutris can be installed as flatpaks, if not included in the linux repo, so that part is solved, pretty much an overwhelming majority of linux distro can gaming.
The biggest problem with those distros is they won't support the newest hardware. There's also the fact that new kernels come with improvements for gaming, as well as new drivers.
I use Fedora cause i want to have updates especially hardware support related as soon as possible. But still want it to be less prone to update issues like Rolling Distros. And i dislike YAST so anything Suse related is not en option. And even when Nobara is better for gaming. I would ratter to the changes myself (with tutorials) so i know more about potential issues.
rolling release update issues aren't as common as you think. But I would be lying if I didn't say that I have made many dumb mistakes before learning how to keep an arch system going smooth. These days any issues I encounter tend be freak accident package releases that are patched like 4 hours after the first sign of an issue. Got hit 4 times in the last year with those short lived instances. 4 hours out an entire week and I get nailed by 4 boot load problems under grub and systemd.
Luckily, thanks to AI assistance I was able to learn how to properly chroot into my drive to fix these issues without needing a backup or a fresh reinstall recently.
@@josephlh1690 i got a ArchVM since nearly as long as i got my Fedora installation. So i know that Fedora even when using testing updates is more reliable less effort.
I am in the process to migrate to Nixos, I have been in diferent distros, the ones I have come back where fedora and arch, I am still learning nixos on a vm and i like that it seems easier to set up a way to replicate the system.
It's essentially just one configuration file you need to setup yes. It's great for multiple deployments, but I'm not sure if the effort is worth it on a personal machine.
If you like it, sure
In early 2022 I bought a laptop with PopOS, and late in 2022 I installed Manjaro on my main PC. I did run into some issues, but nothing that prevented me from using my computers, and I eventually got them resolved. It seems as time went on, I had fewer issues, and I learned the systems better. I have recently finished completely leaving Microsoft Windows, after getting a couple ongoing issues resolved. One was just an issue with a relatively new printer I had purchased (I had purchased it only a few months before I decided to switch to Linux, so I didn't check to make sure it was supported in LInux). That was just a matter of time for the developers to provide the drivers for my particular model. The other was just a matter of better understanding the tools I was using (Lutris and Proton for playing Windows based games). Although my main computer has Manjaro on it, I have a secondhand computer that still runs Windows 10. Now that I'm able to do all I want to with my Linux computer, I'm considering installing a Linux distro on the secondhand computer, but likely something different than what's on my main computer.
I used to use Arch(EndeavourOS to be precise as my original Arch install got demolished by an update and instead of setting it up again I went for endeavour) with Plasma, but plasma 6 introduced some nasty bugs on top of already existing bugs, in general for me it wasn't that good even on 6.0.3, so I just went to zorin OS, now Reaper DAW doesn't crash when loading VST plugins with yabridge(wine bridge) and the DE is stable.
This is why the Universal Blue images (Bazzite, Bluefin, etc) have the GTS/Grand Tour Support as an update channel. It's not massively old like LTS is, it's just permanently the previous based on previous Fedora release (so 38 rn). But, say you want latest stuff? Just rpm-ostree rebase to latest channel, or edit your image builder recipe to the appropriate channel/version.
I'll likely stay on F39 myself for my Bazzite and Aurora-DX images, until I could jump through all the KDE improvements going straight to F41-based.
100% agree, the ublue images are awesome! At least updates will never brick your system.
Can't wait for the f40 image release, they do everything, that I would layer anyways on Silverblue + they do things, that I simply cannot do.
Manjaro KDE is the best Distro for me, running it since 5+years
It failed me dysmally by revoking support for my relatively new GPU, after updating. So, it works for me, but it was crap to me. Use case defined.
Garuda Linux distro feels more stable to me my WIFi hasn't even dropped once on it and it was made for gamers if you guys want to convert to a Linux gaming computer I highly recommend checking out the Garuda distro not for beginners of Linux.
I'm on CachyOS with Hyprland, been really great. Devs are responsive and we have a good community on Discord. I prefer Arch and Arch-based too much to swap at this point.
I'm not sure if you've done a video on NixOS, but I'm curious what you think about it in case you haven't covered it yet.
I don't see NixOS as a proper Desktop experience. The main reason is, that most don't want to write a config file.
Don't get me wrong. It's awesome and I would use it in a business sense for setting up workstations, but I don't see a benefit on a personal workstation except being just fun
@@MichaelNROH Thank you for the clarification.
Thank you for making awesome videos!
Thanks
The biggest issue I have found so far with regards to the choice of Linux distro comes from two particular factors. These are the installer and the terminal syntax. Due to limitations of the most common installers I ended up sticking with OpenSUSE. This is because I use multiple SSD's in my PC and other distro's I have tried don't allow me to select them for auto-mounting as pert of the installation process. This ended up with me not being able to use some of my drives. While some of you may know how edit the right batch files in order to fix this, that is way beyond what someone who is new to Linux will be able to fix themselves and while I did try looking up guides on how to fix this issue, that brings me up to my second point: a lot of guides are written in command line and only cover one or two syntax types. These are generally Debian/Ubuntu and/or Arch. Again, while someone experienced in using the command line through a multitude of different distro's may be able to just say 'okay, if it says do this in Ubuntu I can just do this in OpenSUSE' but the majority of people will not.
what's "syntax types"?
if u wanna auto mount drives then jus install gnome disk utility or kde partiton manager depends on what desktop env u r using or what u prefer doesnt matter tho then jus select ur drive and therell be a setting icon below click that and select mount options then de select auto mount and then rest you should know what to do and then boom all ur drives (if u do this on every drive u have) will be auto mounted on boot
Tuxedo OS has been a pretty good experience for me so far. Upgrading to Wayland in the terminal per their website made the experience a lot smoother. It seems no one cares about X11 anymore. They ship X11 by default, because of Nvidia machines. Truthfully there are many factors that can affect the user experience in Linux. You just have to find one that suits you. IMHO KDE, Gnome and Cinnamon are all great. I'm looking forward to seeing how Cosmic by System76 turns out. One thing is for sure it's all a million times better than Microsoft Windows.
i use NixOS, not because everything works out of the box, but because it’s a very cool concept and when things break you can always rollback any changes to the last working version
It's really not _too_ hard to break NixOS, but it's _very_ hard to break _permanently._
I am on fedora beta with KDE plasma 6. No crashes. None. Had a kernel panic with nouveau but that isn't a KDE issue
Let's say I want a bleeding edge version of linux. I want to choose EASILY versions of kernel, desktop, drivers (nvidia)...
I want to be able to roll back ad libitum without efforts, I mean with 1 minute coding....
AFAIK NixOS is the only option here.
If you want a reliable rollback, then there is no way around a fully fledged backup solution or backup copy.
Every other rollback is file system dependent and only works until it breaks.
On Fedora for example, they keep two older kernels and remember the configuration, so you can easily boot an older update state. This however only works if your filesystem isn't corrupted
I would actually recommend CachyOS and for backup you probably just gotta due them through something like timeshift
As someone who has experienced filesystem corruption on NixOS and who keeps minimal backups, you really can't tell that it ever broke outside of the persistent error counters that the filesystem keeps track of.
People are seriously underestimating the ability to reinstall from scratch to a state identical to just before breaking. Yes, you do need to backup the config, but that's a lot less to back up than _the entire filesystem._ So little that it often gets backed up to _Github._
In my experience, distros also sometimes really matter when experiencing issues with hardware. On Fedora I was having a problem of my monitor losing signal with my GPU after selecting the distro in GRUB menu, but if I first logged into Windows, then rebooted and tried logging into Fedora, there was no issue. I still don't know what exactly was causing it - tried numerous hardware- and software-related fixes and workarounds with no success.
That was happening on kernel 7.3 and 7.4. Then I switched to EndeavourOS, and here I've been free from that issue so far (on kernel 6.8 currently), but now have a different (less critical but annoying) problem of the kernel or distro not liking something in my CPU/RAM overclocking settings and causing random reboots or freezes, which means whenever I'm in Linux (which is 90 percent of the time) I have to run it after selecting stock BIOS settings, and then if I log into Windows for gaming, I select the overclocking BIOS profile for that. Not ideal, but at least I can use the distro without issues.
I think you meant kernel 6.3 and 6.4?
Hardware issues can come from a lot of things and aren't always related to the kernel.
Some drivers don't ship with it by default, as they are not yet Open Source or properly backwards engineered.
The fastest way to determine that is the follow the dmesg - log (kernel buffer).
Open command line and type "dmesg" (mabye "sudo dmesg) and look for red messages.
Sometimes you'll see some hardware related info like realtek something, something.
@@MichaelNROH Another place to look for sources of problems would be under systemd's journalctl. If there is ever a place where warning messages and error messages would popup it would be there.
And you are correct in stating that not all issues are related to the kernel.
If you are in need of bleeding edge hardware support, it is a decent bet that using the closed source or non-free as they call it, driver will work better while the opensource version is built up. Every pc can end up being a different story with linux so it is good to know what your options are, lest you end up with the wrong first impressions.
@@josephlh1690 No, I was using 7.4 and 7.3 actually, and found that booting in with 6.6.14 instead was allowing me to bypass the issue, but it wasn't a long-term solution of course, and nobody who responded to my thread on Fedora forums really had an idea to nail down the source of the problem, so that finally led me to try switching distros, which of course also meant trying a different kernel. And on a different distro and different kernel, I'm having a different kind of issue, so just wanted to highlight how different distro/kernel combinations can solve/expose different issues.
@@MichaelNROH I tried looking into outputs of "inxi -Fmxxz output", "lspci -n -n -k | grep -A 2 -e VGA -e 3D", etc, but I don't think I used "dmesg". Will keep that in mind for the future, thank you.
i can relate to that issue because i updated from kde plasma 5.27.1 to kde Plasma 6.0.3 and switcht from x11 to waylan. I experienced some graphical glitches or some basic functions not working as intended so i had to update kde 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 to get the bugs fixed in my distro. My personal wish for a linux distro should me a relative stable experience with regular updates that i can install automaticly or manualy with a stable base and reliable updates that should not cause a detruction of my OS. i mean most stuff i do on a PC is gaming, Browsing, using some apps for comfort or buisness and thats it. If i wanna use like a homelab i use a much more stable distro that gives the support i need for the server use it and hope not to upgrade it the next 3 years.
RHEL is actually free for individuals !
I keep hearing Linux support is getting better and better....Only to run into the same bugs I had 5 years ago or into new ones which haven't been seen before. It seems every single piece of hardware I have triggers all edge case bugs present in Linux, even when said hardware is compatible with Linux.
The video my younger self needed
Always nice to hear these types of things even if you’re an experience Linux user. It’s very easy to get stuck in a certain line of thinking.
I ran Arch for a couple months this year. Honestly it’s pretty great from the perspective of you do everything yourself. That’s a double-edged sword however though. It sometimes feels like the “problems” never end. Updating to Plasma 6 broke my system in weird ways. Certain stuff from Plasma 5 still worked for the first week. Like the theme persisted until one day when I logged on and it was set back to the default Plasma theme. Just weird wonky stuff finally drove me off Arch. Now I’m chilling on Windows trying to find a distro I want to use since Win11 24H2 is going require I remove a lot of tweaks I use.
based on what you have written I would recommend the stable version of Fedora, it is reasonably up to date, but still stable. I use arch on my main system and fedora for work, fedora gives you way less problems if you want to work with a DE. there is a kde spin and a gnome spin
Huh. I have to be the luckiest man alive cuz ive never really had problems with arch. Maybe it's a result of a pathological avoidance of GUIs and trying to keep a pretty lean system overall.
@@marsimplodation arch at home, fedora at work is my set up as well :). Although id run arch at work as well if microsoft defender, which is required by my employer was officially supported on arch.
@@stugeh I use Fedora at work, because the rest of the company does so, I can give better support when I actually use it as well instead of my hyprland arch setup
@@marsimplodation you work in the it department i guess? I do find myself missing the aur quite a bit. Having to periodically build my tools from source manually is a bit of a chore when i can just do a 3 letter command on arch to get those updates without thinking about it too much :p
Yep, I was using KDE Neon when they shoveled Plasma 6 at us in a pretty sorry state. I don't use Neon anymore....
Fragmentation is the biggest battle gnu/Linux will always have.
Still seems a high barrier to entry for beginners. I'm currently running windows 10, and with it's support running out, and recall being added to windows, it's looking more and more like I will have to switch. I'm a beginner, although for a little while I did try ubuntu and mint -- it was okay but I had problems with some of my hardware, and then I still get annoyed with package managers. I like to go to the internet, and specific websites to get the most up-to-date "stable" versions of my favorite software, I don't like relying on some other "store" type of program (i realize it's not a store where you have to buy stuff), where the software might not be up-to-date or I might have multiple copies of the same software on my system, and still not no which version I'm using. Then was the issue of keys and passwords, sooooo many passwords to do something to your system, and while Windows has tried to increase security, I can pretty much set it up to where I don't have anything to do other than just run stuff. They also had just as many updates as I do in windows. I do like the fact I'm not forced to update, but it just seems like we always have to download something else. I miss the days when I could just go to the store, get an OS and install it, and didn't have to deal with updates and such.
Linux mint is noob friendly. Ultra stable. Never crashes.
I use it for my desktop because I want a system that just works for a daily driver.
I also dual boot windows which I use for gaming. I don’t install anything else on windows besides games so will hopefully stay performative for a long time.
Not too much happening on there for MS to data scrape.
@@youtubevanced4900 - I might do something like that myself. (dual boot) I need to get a new drive though, and I don't have money for that, so I'm just stuck until I can get enough money to buy some new stuff
This feels like it is leading into benchmarking videos. It would be cool to see setting up different software for benmchmarking like sysbench, hardinfo, geekbench, phoronix, and mangohud, as well as testing different distributions to see which perform what tasks better on different hardware.
Fedora worksration is great so far. No problems at all. Also your battery saving video was great
RHEL clones ftw (using almalinux now)
Very helpful video.
My opinion about the best linux distributions: EndeavourOS, Manjaro and MX Linux.
It's a bummer the latest Kubuntu isn't Plasma 6
While I also think it is a bummer, it does make sense why they decided that they wouldn't ship it as Plasma 5.27 is an LTS release, also there is the chance that they backport Plasma 6 on the LTS like what they did with 22.04 when they backported 5.25
All the Plasma 6 distros and even Kubuntu 24.04 beta have broken GPU switching.
And yet it is the right decision. People go to LTS because they don't want the latest features AND bugs. These are people who actively avoids the short-term releases or don't want to really think about their OS they use for work and only need it to be somewhat up to date.
If user REALLY want to use KDE 6, they can just use the kubuntu-backports PPA. The important thung is that it's not there by default for the massive amount of people who don't really care about using the latest thing all the time.
Especially with how 6.0 is in many ways a prelude to 6.1. LTS really don't want to do major version updates unless they have to, that's just the opposite of what it promised at all. So either they have to ship a major update midway or have people stuck on the earliest release of KDE 6 with all thr problems that either of those entails.
@@FengLengshun Points well made
Is there a channel that can also talk about the hardware you need to build a Linux Desktop PC and how to overclock GPU and use CPU fan controller on Linux.
What was that red mountain wallpaper?? Really love it!!
It's in the description
@@MichaelNROH Thanks a lot!
The only objectively incorrect distro is Manjaro. Beyond that it's just preferences :^)
I don't think its that bad, though I agree that there are objectively better solutions out there. Especially software centers
After looking for my best distro i came to Debian and Garuda Linux, but Garuda needs some changes after installing but overall it's very good.
I've been using Linux since 2004. If you want stability, go with Debian or LMDE. If you want the latest software, Arch is the way to go, especially now that archinstall exists. Fedora was my main for a long time, but it's just not what it used to be since IBM bought Red Hat. Every other distro seems to have a bunch of garbage you don't need, like Snap or YaST, or they like to retheme everything. And I don't recommend Manjaro--they can't even get SSL certificates right, so why would I trust them with my operating system? I will admit that I haven't bothered with EndeavourOS because of archinstall being a thing now.
hating on fedora because IBM bought Red Hat is pretty irrational to me
@@interests357 That's not what I said. I didn't hate Fedora just because IBM bought RedHat. I said it isn't what it used to be. Specifically, I started having more weird bugs and other issues with it a year or two after the IBM acquisition. I actually kinda like Nobara these days because GloriousEggroll is trying to fix things up on Fedora for home use again, but I've run into a couple of issues that prevent me from using it as my main.
I primarily tried Mint Edge 21.3 and EndeavourOS. I play competitive online games, and Linux has very limited support there. So Windows for life for me.
Mint was simple to use, but nothing I could do would get a wireless controller to work for my Steam games. So irritating.
That was no issue in Endeavour, but the system is too much command line. It's 2024, not 1974.
Suggest some distros with relatively newer packages, i will use it as my main machine for normal usage
It must have a xfce flavour
Literally any minimal rolling release distro like Arch, Gentoo, or NixOS (even LFS if you're crazy). The "xfce flavor" is called "install xfce".
I'm pretty sure Arch and NixOS both have graphical installers that let you select a desktop environment from the GUI, where you can choose to use xfce over the other options.
Got to try TurnKey Linux OpenLDAP :)
I'm just trying to use my elgato facecam and wave on roll20 and discord and streaming to TH-cam. But mostly roll20 via Brave. Which distro is best for this?
I've spent about 5 hours trying to get them to work on Ubuntu
I use fedora linux btw... I mean am I safe and good with it?
In fedora there is a issue in the firefox browser it cannot play videos
When i try playing them using vlc they crash
Installing nvidia drivers semi-fixed it
Not an issue actually. Fedora just doesn't preinstall proprietary codecs. In my opinion the best way to solve this is to use Flathub Flatpak packages.
"it's a lot better than just a few years ago". I've been hearing that since first trying Linux about 2005.
And it’s been true since then 😊
this is the main reason i dont use linux. i belive tiny window and ltsc and iot windows is enough for stability i just need it in win 11.
I also use Fedora 40 and everything is fine so far
I Installed ZORIN 17 On A PC! It Did Not Take Me Long To Install Synaptic Package Manager And Install PLASMA Desktop!! So I Am Now Running Zorin Plasma Edition Or Simply Debian With The Plasma Desktop Environment! I Found Zorin To Be BORING As It Did Not Allow Me To Customize My Desktop To Look Like Windows 7 With Stardocks Windows Blinds Running On It Except With My Buttons Being On The Left As Mac Does! Which Is The Layout I Have been Using Since Windows Blinds came Out Around The End Of XP!!!
Not a smart idea, as zorin ships with an old base (Ubuntu 20.04.) I recommend you install Debian and plasma on that instead
Artix xfcw or open Use with xfcw is the only distros u need
I use void linux btw
Hey can you review Oreon Linux? It's rhel but user friendly and had a huge update coming.
So wich distro do you use? :)
I'm sure anyone who has Windows is happy with Microsoft and supports the company and has to pay a lot of money for it every month should pay$ 456 to the company for using your computer.. Pay us money, too. Why not?
You don't need to pay Microsoft. There's a lot ways to have M$ stuff for free.
Which one do u use?
@@slayerx5902 he uses fedora
Hyprland is not a distro
Hah? Where does that come from? 😅
@@MichaelNROH the LLM commenting did not have context length set XD
damn bro i knew that means i am god now (bow before me ) insulent fools
@@MichaelNROH0:04
@@Rayyan-hi2ge This is not targeted at distros.
It is about others asking me if I've tried this or that solution, including apps, Desktop Environments, Distros or even settings
EndeavourOS ❤
It is not bad video but I wonder if this video have anything that any person who watches them doesn't already know.
Depends on who watches it, I guess
I think its very simple. If you're not using Debian, your wrong.
GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO GENTOO
It matters because if it's not Fedora then hop again
Edit: never thought I'd need to specify that this is a light joke
It doesn't matter lol
Edit: That didn't appear to be a joke 🤣
Corpo, no thanks
Äh, what?
I use arch btw
It doesnt matter which distro you pick(except for asian ones). Linux is Linux. Same problems diffrent formats. Still better in most ways than windows. Even ZorinOS...
Hold up, what's wrong with "Asian" distros?
@@stefanalecu9532 For me, its the Security Concern. I dont know how much some of the asian government is interfering in the process of the development of the distro.
IT DOESNT NECCESSERLY MEAN THAT A DISTRO IS UNSECURE BECAUSE OF THAT.
But there are versions of Linux i wouldnt reccomend to install, such as allknown RedStar OS (i hope the reasons for that are clear).
@@shm0rt what do you mean asian goverment ? Asia is a continent
Yay, first comment
What a fragmented mess. I choose windows 11, everything just works.
"Car tuning is a a fragmented mess"? Just use popular solution, same with distributions.
Finally someone with a brain
at least not mac 😅
Honsetly I installed fedora a week ago because I'm uneployed and bored. Cyberpunk 2077 runs 15 frames faster than on windows, but that's because my ram is slow (2400mhz) but appart from that if you don't care about the os appart from using it to run your apps and games, which is fine, then Windows is ok.
@@siz1700 I remember that video about MacOs vs Windows where windows was the boring corpo guy and Mac was the funny guy. Now it seems it's the other way around.