Teardown of Baseus 160W Multi-port Car Charger (QC 5.0)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
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Introduction
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Hi, guys. Welcome back to ChargerLAB.
Today, we’re going to teardown a special charger, the car charger. You’ll know that if you drive to work.
This charger comes from Baseus, which is equipped with two USB-C and one USB-A.
If you charge three devices at the same time, the maximum power can be up to 160W.
So, let’s start today’s video.
Bill of materials (BOM)
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Filter Solid Capacitor: Yunxing Electronics, 35V, 100μF
Synchronous Buck-boost Controller: Powlicon PL5501
MOSFET: ADAMANT AD30N80D5
Protocol chip of C1: Injoinic IP2726
Protocol chip of C2 & A: ismartware SW3522, ismartware SW3521
Chapter
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0:00 Intro
1:22 Testing
2:04 Teardown - Start
2:33 Teardown - First PCB
4:18 Teardown - Second PCB
5:47 Summary
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0:51 As I read, only on TypeC port 2 it will provide 15/20V this when powered from 24V (like a truck), so this means port 1 would still do 20V... as their previous car chargers can; only 20V@3A for port 1 and 20V@1.5A for port 2. 2:45 The PCB design shows a buck-boost fr port 1, so this will most likely deliver 20V.
It's always refreshing to see a car charger teardown. The simplicity of basically just buck/boost converters compared to a complex fully fledged AC-DC wall outlet adapter circuit always amazes me for some reason lol
The lid can be removed without damage if glued with double-sided foam tape to the table. Just grab firmly with a glove and pull sharply straight up.
Great teardown.
port 2 can only do step down voltages, port 1 can step up to 20v from 12
so, I just ordered this one, do you think it will last a long time (3+years) if mainly 2 devices are connected for less than ~130watt draw? it's just nice to get a few more % charge on the way home during my short trip. also, would it work in a 3-way 12v splitter because I also have my dashcam running off 12v ? I doubt my dashcam draws more than 30w.
This is like JerryRig but for Chargers. Pretty cool👍
I'm glad to hear that.
Would have like to see a bank of MLCCs on the output and increased switching frequency with shielded Inductors but the power density is impressive.
Same thought
These chargers are super useful for even non-car situations as the input value can range from about 10-28V easily (12-14 for family car, 24V because of trucks). I power them from older Lenovo laptop power bricks at 20V and therefore provide a efficient re-use, or you put them onto a Lipo pack that is used for your quadcopter or RC car. ;-)
hahaha, I see you got one of the car plug from Taobao... those with an AC-DC brick?
Disapppointing this is only 20@3A for TypeC port 2, 20@1.5A for port 2 = 90W total... and the USBA is 20V QC5, so max at about 65W? According to the specs the C1 should be 100W max but not seeing this in the readout... and USB is max 30W. Somehow the readings are wrong... and that can be based on the input. Some of the BaseUS car adapters will only output the max power of 20V in those specs if the supply is OVER 12V. This might mean your input voltage is not adequate?
Let's also consider for a moment the BaseUS promotional material; Some of that includes an exploded diagram of the board design/layout. While the chips shown look very generic they went to the effort to show a matching layout ;-D
Nice teardown. CE is not a certification. Just a promise from manufacturer to compliance with european union specifications. No quality sign
Isn't it China Export?
And if you know how CE mark should look you would see that this product dont have correct on its surface.
Yeah… That was grating to hear, especially after seeing it’s placement 0:53
most cars with 12v electrical system only supports 10amp max from cig lighter so its limited to max of 120w and even then it will probably blow the fuse quick . this is more useful for truck and bus drivers as all semi trucks and coach buses have 24v electrical system to reduce cranking current of the big diesel engine.
I also noticed the actual protocols do not count up to the expected max wattage. most likely the input voltage wasn't over 12V as BaseUS describes in their documentation. A lot of the desktop supplies with a cigarettes plug only barely power at 12V. It explains part of the missing readout. Note: a 10A fuse on these plug is not that common anymore. I checked mine just recently and it has a 15A blade fuse.
Not really unless you're talking about really old cars. Most front car cigarette lighters are rated for 15A continuous so that's 15*14 = 210W
As the charger uses Yunxing Electronics, 35V, 100μF for the input filtering, does this mean that the charger would be able to handle an input voltage of up to 35v?
Can I do the taredownd to lose the led lights?
Will it work the same after that ?
Where is the PD5 protocol negotiation chip?
Thank you for this teardown
How do you think, can this charger provide PD 20V from 18v lithium battery?
The problem that on fresh battery input volage will be 21v and then drops to 17V during discharge.
you should be able to pull 20V on C1 output since that one has dedicated buck-boost converter unlike C2 and A output that only has buck converter
Very nice
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I bought one. It stepped working after 2 weeks
In the video you said Fix of 20v 5A, but your Power Z was only showing 20V 3A. It is supposed to do 5V 20A on that port. I wonder what is wrong?
It should be 20v 5A.
We've fixed the bug of our Power Z tester.
I would have loved to see how much REAL power it provides on 12V. That is really the test that is worth most for me in any charger. But anyways. Thanks! Because 160W, out of this thing in 12V? No way that is 15 Amps, no car-plug will even have the cable in it to do that. And Baseus knows that. So how much does it REALY charge?
uh.. some car is capable to carry 20A. some 15, 10, or even as small as 5. that depends on your car
Isn't the max power just at 24V?
Its 160w on 24v only i think
This charges my laptop capable of 100 watt USB-C charging. It's a great charger but eventually melts a bit at the end causing for a loose connection and also eventually stops charging at 100 watts. Starts charging intermittently like crazy. It gets too hot. I have a 18 Kia Optima LX 2.4. This would have been the perfect charger as it works better than similar ones. I can't tell if it's something with my car, my laptop, or the charger. Wish I can pinpoint it 😢
i tested mine arrives around 90w on a single type C, so not too shabby
Hypothetically speaking. Could I tear this down and hook it up to 4x 21700 cells @ 3.6v nominal each, delivering 14,4v and house it. Making a powerbank PD fast charger of 80w+ PD? (I would need a circuit to charge the batteries too!) Is this possible?
It is, I just did that but instead of teardown I put a cigarrete socket on the power bank
Luckily this does not overload my car port or the 3-way splitter charging two devices plus dash cam.
Mine Baseus 65w car charger with voltimeter stop working, lightly used, trying to find a way to repair
Please teardown baseus gan 65w
Why the hell did they need an H-Bridge? Are they galvanically isolating the output?
No, the H bridge is a combination of a buck and a boost converter (both sync ones)... Check "4-switc buck-boost converter" and you'll see what I mean
how did you get the faceplate off in the first place?
get some 3m xtreme double sided tape, stick the face to a table, or the back side of a plate so you can watch the progress abit closer, theres 2 clips centered left and right, now just roll the the face of the charger while pulling firmly, now all you have to do is break one of the clips off and your in👍
i think the 100w thing is only possible with 15 amps fuse, hence hte charger limiting the usb c1 to 63 watts
This converter has no way of knowing the size of the cigarette lighter fuse. It is the connected device that determines the power required.
P=U I -> 100W=12V*8A.
Please make playlist for car charger only ???
We will classify them separately later, because we currently only have a few car chargers.
Is QC 5.0 just an add up of QC 2.0 and QC 3.0?
It supports the brand-new QC 5.0 protocol.
@@ChargerLAB seen that but i didn't see QC 5.0 on ur tester. I seen QC 2.0, QC 3.0 and QC 4.0+. Or is ur tester a bit old?
@@harleyhem3381 Yes, it does not support it.
You broke a smd capacitor 3:11 in the corner of the pcb board near to 5501 ic :(
Well, they all end up in the trash can after being disassembled. 😂
0:45 You state that "the charger can output 15V/20V only under 24V input".
This is not correct I have this charger and can use it to charge my Dell XPS laptop at 20V with my 12V battery using the C-1 port.
Test of my baseus VCKX65C (65W): Dell laptop Lattitude 5520: input 11,6V -> usbc: 20,6V/2,6A (54W) with cpu at 100% (stress web page)
smartphone Samsung A52s : usbc 9,5V/1,35A (12,8W)
Requesting for Baseus GaN 2 Pro 65W.
👍🏻
Can i use this in my 120w car charger?
Yes, but you will temporarily break the port if you use more than 120w, until you buy another 10 amp fuse.
I wouldn't recommend using more than 100w on those ports continuously and/or concurrently
Would the average person be able to remove the LEDs without breaking anything?
That’s what I’m wondering! Idle is already pretty high, and at full load it’s outputting ~5w as heat. Plus bright blue interior lights while night driving aren’t safe
@@GraeDay I ended up putting it in my under-armrest 12v plug, so I never see the lights, and with a short c-c angled cable I can put my phone under there and still close it, solved!
Oppo 80 car charger tradown
Actually one can charge his/her Tesla from cigarette outlet on the go.
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Haha~ We'll improve this.
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