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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this video I go over how each of the five bosses from Inkwell isle 1 work in detail, including all of their possible movement patterns, RNG, parryble projectiles, and more.
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Thank you to @GioTGM and his discord server for helping me understand some parts of this game :)
If you'd like to view any of the music used in this video, here's a link to the google doc that I store all of it on: docs.google.com/document/d/1x...
Video Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:18 - The Root Pack
4:23 - Goopy Le Grande
6:30 - Ribby and Croaks
9:17 - Hilda Berg
13:46 - Cagney Carnation
17:26 - Outro
Thank you for watching :) - เกม
I’ve seen some comments and I have some corrections to make after a bit more research
-Hilda berg’s brown UFOs actually do activate based on the players position, just right before the player makes contact with them
-Ribby and croaks are not the only boss to be invulnerable during their transition state, when Hilda berg starts shaking during the moon transition, she is also invulnerable
-while ribby and croaks have 2 hitboxes in the first phase, croak’s hitbox isn’t actually active until phase 2 starts
You can absolutely hit Croaks in Phase 1 with any shot, EX, or super that pierces. Converge, Roundabout’s EX, and the milk blast can all easily show that off. You’ll see Croaks’ sprite flashing white as he gets hit, meaning that he’s taking damage.
I’ve been swearing by the Roundabout trick in Phase 1 myself, so I’m almost POSITIVE about Croaks’s hitbox being active.
Just because he's flashing doesn't mean the hitbox is active, you can look on a debug mod yourself, his hitbox only becomes active once the threshold for the second phase is triggered@@TheNorfAndOnly
It means you should save your roundabouts exs to phase to instead of spamming it on the first one (the hit box becomes active once you have dealt enough damage to start phase 2, not when the transition is over)
For the second point, Captain Brineybeard also becomes invulnerable when transitioning to the final boat phase.
I came to comment on those so thabks
Now tell me how Cuphead's AI works I swear he moves by himself sometimes
Cuphead is being piloted by a far more complex AI trying to learn cuphead.
@@SillyTillar Yeah it's called Mark Zuckerberg taking control of your computer
As someone who doesn’t know how to datamine the code of cuphead and also doesn’t even own the game; I can safely say all the info in this video is factually correct
I mean as long as it wasn't said by quartz I trust it
Ribbie and Croaks CAN have the damage transfer from the first to the second stage, it’s just very finicky. You need to stop dealing damage just before you trigger the next stage, and you deal damage while they do the second round of attacks. If you can get enough damage in, you can skip the seconds phase entirely. There is also a spot at their feet where you can crouch and get hit them both at once. Also the brown ufos are triggered when you get close to them horizontally, not at random. There’s a speedrunner called Grondious who has an incredible intermediate speed running video with ton of information, all this info is in that video. This was a really cool breakdown, and it’s really neat that you were able to get so much out of just testing and collecting data without looking at the code.
Oh word thanks I’ll take a look at that
How did I just now realize that "Hilda Berg" is a play on "Hindenburg". THIS GAME'S BEEN OUT FOR 7 YEARS AND I JUST NOTICED!! It should have been obvious considering she turns into a blimp.
She doesn't turn, she IS a blimp 😂
kinda like how i didn't realise that "this match will get red hot" is a pun too.
@@yeans3rdor4thchannelicantrembrI’ve played Cuphead since release and I never realized that wtf 😭
6 years
hey, i'm a cuphead speedrunner with over 2.4k hours in this game, i wanted to point out some things i thought differently of (i may be wrong however)
root pack's overall health is a "no overdamage" system, which means if you overdamaged let's say the potato by 40 damage, the boss will need to be at around -40 health for it to die, implying that damaging the onion early before the secret phase does not actually deal more damage.
there's also something interesting in the potato. it doesn't actually take damage until the "WALLOP" screen goes away.
goopy was done pretty well, but i want to add one really cool fact: goopy has a 6-or-so-frame sprite swap, where old goopy and new goopy are on the screen at the same time. if you hit this specific frame with something like a lobber ex (or any ex with splash damage) it will deal double damage
not sure about this particular one, but i swear i've seen croaks spit more than 4 times on very rare 7-fly patterns. i will need to do more research on this myself, but just a note.
the 577 damage threshold isn't exactly an always. the game assigns invincibility to the boss as soon as it sees it's at 577 health. however, if ribby is at 580 health and you finish them off with a lobber ex (28 damage), the overdamage will still count and THEN the game will assign them invincibility making them have 552 health. and unlike root pack, this will indeed help you kill them off quicker.
regarding hilda, i can see your pinned comment so i won't mention anything else haha
cagney was also done pretty well, so i want to add one interesting fact that when cagney shakes after doing his pollen (or spore as you called it) his hitbox shifts a little upwards
yo thanks for all the info!! Do you have a discord or anything that I can have for when I make the world 2 guide?
@@TheBones5 i can join your server, you can find my by the same name
@@exclamation_markyt2852 got it, thanks
I already knew some of these attack patterns while learning how to beat the bosses, so hearing them explained out loud is very validating
i could've used this video YEARS ago for my boss recreations, amazing info!
unoriginal comment (sorry), but you absolutely deserve more views than you get, i hope a large fanbase is soon in your future :3
I sometimes forget this channel only has 16k subscribers. The content is so well made that you'd think he'd at least have 250k+
Here after 2 months. His sub count is rapidly increasing!! I bet he'll hit 50K pretty soon!!
Oh you should definitely do more! I am also very interested in a breakdown of the expert fights too!
Your ai breakdown videos are so fun to watch. I would love another cuphead one. Keep it up.
Your music for each and every video is so consistently on point, especially for me. You almost always include at least one track by Home, one of my favorite artists, and it genuinely never fails to make my day.
haven't played cuphead in years but still love breakdown videos like this one, they are so interesting
Love to see you going into different games, I love these! Gonna go rewatch the FNAF ones after this :3
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i legit went to your channel for the rest of the parts before realizing this was posted only a few hours ago... :,)
subscribed now though, so i will keep notifs on for the next videos
Absolutely give us more. I loved this and hoped I was weeks late so I could watch the next one already
He sounds less dead inside this video its strangely uplifting
Awesome breakdown! It's super cool to see the attack patterns explained.
love the vid! AI breakdowns are always so interesting because of just how complex some of the behaviors can be if you're playing the game without that knowledge. it helps bridge the gap between casual players and speedrunners so that they can follow along
also good luck on beating cuphead no hit. that shit looks tough but i know u got this! :)
Great work man! I'd love to see you break down the other bosses.
THIS IS SO GOOOOD!!! Keep making what you love and I’m sure you’ll do great!!!
Oh uh uh im so early idk what to say awesome video likedi swear i watched the whole thing 💖
Also i absolutely love AI break downs
Bros got an excel spreadsheet for vine attacks? 😭
Yeah it was 150 rows long
This is such an interesting, informative, and engaging video. I love learning about patterns in games, it’s something I do in hollow knight to pass some time if I’m bored, and I love hearing how these devs made their bosses work.
Great video and I can’t wait for more
Thanks so much for this guide! I love learning new things about this game and I’m looking forwards to more, I’d love to see Expert Mode and the run n guns. Liked and subbed!
Fantastic video as always! The fact that you couldn’t rely on the source code and had to decipher all this yourself is amazing.
These AI breakdown videos are always so entertaining to watch. Please never stop!
i love super deep AI breakdowns like this, it's just really fun to learn about all the minutae.
Holy hell, I was here around 3k, and now you have 16.2k subs, more than quintuple. Congratulations on your growth throughout this short period of time. 💪
I think it would be really neat to see a version of this series on Expert mode! Once you’re done with the first pass-through on Regular, it’d be cool to see just how much Expert differentiates from Regular.
Great video i love cuphead and fnaf so its really nice to see someone with good taste :)
No clue if this has been said yet, but I'll chime this in regardless:
During his 1st and 2nd phase, Goopy can choose to either bounce the opposite way upon reaching the side of the screen or fall directly downwards upon reaching the side of the screen as well.
Good video! Looking forward to more of it!
i couldn't tell if that was based on the distance between him and the wall or not, if it's random, then i didn't know that, thanks
I'd love to see a follow up to this! I've always found this stuff quite interesting.
Love this under-the-hood type stuff. Just fascinating to me. Really appreciated the video's production too
an amazing job thx for explaining how this game works
Can’t wait for the rest of the game!! I’m also super interested un expert modes!!!
I agree with a comment that I seen because they said you deserve more views and a much larger community.
Wow this is cool and amazing. Thank you legend
another certified banger from Thebones5 youtube channel on youtube
First, FNAF and now Cuphead??? Dude, you already had my subscription with the bell on! CHILL, LMAO. No, seriously, I love this game and if I have a huge project to do, I put on the whole OST to bump in the background. Again, I'm a Let's Play viewer but when I eventually get my PC (and learn how to Edit to start my path towards getting in front of the camera), Cuphead is on the list to play and I'll definitely be here to get the info I need to not Rage Quit. Keep doing what you're doing, man!
okay, fine, I’m subbed, you’ve got me hostage at least until you do this for the entire game
How about the tutorial. That boss stumped me for 26 minutes.
Game journalist spotted
another goated video
Did not know how the Cagney sub phases differ til now, also yeah gonna need that Expert mode video someday
In Hilda Berg, the Gemini's fireball is not actually a projectile as it doesn't have a hurtbox. It merely functions as a spawn point for the bullets.
BABE WAKE UP NEW THEBONES5 UPLOAD
this was needed
I would love to see more
I may be completely wrong here, but I can say that on Expert mode, Cagney's final phase vine attacks do seem to go in a pattern. I know this is Expert, but maybe it can give some insight on Regular???
Anyway, he will cover two platforms with his vines, leaving just one for you. He will do this two more times, with a different platform being uncovered until all three platofmrs have had a chance to be uncovered. From there, he repeats that same order. Occasionally, the vines will not appear at the same time, having a delay. I know he does the same pattern for a while, but he does switch it up after some time. That I don't know, as I usually end up defeating him before he can do that.
Please do an expert ai video! This was so nice to watch
this is so underrated
great vid
I always thought the brown UFOs in Hilda's last phase always went off when you were right in front of them.
oh my god i didn't know you could duck goopy's punch. i completely forgot that was a mechanic. i'm an idiot.
Okay, this is probably my most PETTY and stupid pet peeve and it doesn't matter, but it irks me when people call the root pack "Potato, onion and carrot" ever since I learned that they have actual names. Art of Cuphead lists them as: Sal Spudder, Ollie Bulb and Chauncey Chantenay. Apparently the radish is also named Horace Radiche
in other news, Wally Warbles' son is named Willy Warbles, which is adorable
Baronesses royal court is as follows: Lord Gob Packer, Kernel Von pop, Sir Waffington III, Muffsky Chernikov, Sgt. Gumbo Gumbull.
Djimmi's weird marionette is named Cuppet
This video made me redownload Cuphead just to open it with ILSpy so I can see how accurate this all is.
10/10 Would decompile again
1. Great video, looks amazing and is a very good watch. 2. How the hell did you get the clean animations? Did you go into photoshop and clean each frame bc if so that’s incredible for how many you did. 3. If you do another cuphead video, I recommend watching Grondious’ recent series where he goes through the speedrun for each boss. Lots of info about each boss and their patterns in them to be sure of all the info you use. Again, great video!
Edit: I saw someone else beat me to bringing up Grondious, so disregard that part
Thanks for the compliments, to get the animations is quite a long process, you have to go rip the sprites from the games, then put them together and cut them to match the 24fps look the game has, then render it out over a greenscreen and ultra key it, but it makes the vid look better so I say it's worth it
Nice video, for Isle 2 I would like to know how the Gumball miniboss (in Baroness von Bon Bon’s stage) attack rng is determined on Expert, and how the cloud placement rng works for Grim Matchstick. Both seem very rng-heavy.
13:26 I'm pretty sure the brown ones activate when they're close to being over you so they always activate in front of you
Another video of numbers galore
Finally, I can eat my food with this
Babe wake up there’s a new TheBones5 youtube video
I believe Brineybeard also takes no damage when transitioning into his last phase.
As someone who has only been playing on expert mode for the past few months, it would be cool if we got a video explaining the subtle and sometimes very different changes from regular mode sometime in the future.
Engagement booster for the goat
Engagement booster #2
Oh well, time to watch another video essay about a game I've never played.
There is a certain pattern to cagey’s vines but one of them appears/disappears faster then the other so eventually you lose track of the pattern
Hey I remember this game. Still on my toes for funny cat game tho
I. Have a question, does hilda berg gains damage immunity when transitioning to her last phase? I've seen some bosses gain said immunity while transitioning but i don't know if it's true or not
Me: a complete deep dive? Wow this must be like a 3-hour long video.
"18:11"
Oh, I guess they're not that complicated then
Somehow I never know that goopy's eating a pill duroing his phase 2 transition... I always thought he just did a thumbs up and looked at nothing for a second 😭😭
I'm pretty sure Hilda's brown UFO start when you right in front of him. But idk, great video tho!
so cool
If you have use a tool like ILSpy and have basic understanding of Unity code you might be able to directly look at the scripts for bosses and find out things like exact probabilities and determining factors from the lines of code
once you can 300% this game including the achievements & all the S & P ranks without taking damage is when you truly master this game, so good luck, also thanks for making this series from both a wannabe game designer & gamer perspective
edit: I should probably specify P+, it unofficial, & I just made it up, but it basically means don't take damage, parry 3 times, get all 5 coins, without hitting an enemy, all within 2 minutes, seems like a cool challenge once I'm better at games & want to invest that time into cuphead, but I'd rather just do everything in it then move on, then kill myself over a video game challenge
13:20 I thought that for the brown ufos you just had to activate it and fall back
Hell yeah
6:20 seeing the older videos on cuphead with the health bar display, it is possible that these scripted bosses phases share the same health (one variable rather than multiple all adding to the total). It is shown with the one-hit KO cheat, even though there are multiple “characters” like Wally Warbles, by KOing ONE CHARACTER will end the stage immediately despite you not directly attacking the other characters (Willy Warbles, or vice versa). This is in contrast on non-scripted bosses that lets you defeat them in any order, such as the Tipsy Troop and the Pawns.
interesting, it might account for phase transitions and how the hitbox for bosses wouldn't be active for the duration of the transition, like when wally warbles is falling out of his house but before the chicken little phase starts. Or it could just be segments that are added to the same large health bar
@@TheBones5 one nice thing is that using powerful SP attacks is that it isn’t wasted diring transition. Your damage isn’t nullified except Ribby and Croaks’s slot machine.
@@TheBones5 Also, it’s kinda strange the game stores health as floating point values that can be in fractional units instead of integers for bosses. Probably because the game scales your damage based on charms and multiplayer. But even then, they could’ve scale the HP and DMG to allow more hits on the smallest damage possible.
I didn't knew one of those phases of Hildaberg are from the Zodiac signs. That's some neat attention to detail.
4:24 Background music?
next run is The One. trust
Peak.
did you notice how in goopy's second phase, the first time he punches he blinks a few times before throwing the punch?
yeah it's only for that specific punch, maybe it was intended by the devs to differentiate the first scripted punch from the actual random ones
it would be funny if you did Poker Night at The Inventory & Poker Night at The Inventory 2 since it's just straight-up poker
Do people consider Root Pack as the first boss? Because in my experience I've only heard people refer to Goopy Le Grande as the first boss
1:41 is the parry-able projectile always the same in sequence?
yes
yes
never played cuphead but still a bones5 vid so -20 minutes of my time
people like you keep the channel running, literal goat
your my goat for posting vids I love
"Ha"-Hildaberg
commenting for algorithm and also 9:03 im pretty sure those are tigers, not leopards 🤓. every attack in this phase is an allusion to a character from street fighter II, and that slot machine attack pays homage to sagat's "tiger uppercut" and "tiger knee"
I’m not sure if you took into consideration that after starting if someone did the 1st gun run then went to the get super1 then traveled to isle 4 and obtains the broken relic and use it on Hilda berg that player would be able to use bombs on that level making it a breeze to get through. Sorry I paused video to comment hopefully you took it into consideration if not could we get an update please
Make the expert video after the regular (and maybe simple, tho idk if it’s interesting even tho it has some unique things)
1:04 is the source code even public? I wouldn’t think it would be.
I cant play cagney cuz it crashes when i pick it
The one question i have is how does the ai decide when to attack?
what is the mod name the hitbox and healtbar mod???
Something you missed (although I'm not sure if anyone else told you this) during the Psycarrot phase of the Root Pack, his homing Carrots can be made to hit the ground or into eachother if you know what you're doing, but this strategt isn't ideal outside of say, a Whetstone-only challenge.
P.S, Surprised you neglected the honestly rather fun names of individual rootpack members and hope you do so in later vids with stuff like Bonbon's minions or Wally Warble's son, Willy Warbles.
i didn't even know they had names my bad lol
I find it funny that cuphead punch out and shadow of the colossus are very popular and yet boss rush games are still not truly a genre
Ive had this game since 2017 and havent got past that fucking blue ball 😭😭
Skill issue
I'm expert mode for cagny you can get three boomerangs in a row. That or my game is bugged
Don't know what to write just wanna help push the algorithm