This is the MOST comprehensive, all-encompasing, intellectually honest and thoughtful conference presenting the issue of psychopathy, I have EVER seen! Edit: YOU KNOW WHAT?, SUBSCRIBED!
@@joel6427 Except we all know it's true and if you're uncomfortable with this realization that Trump demonstrates obvious psychopathic traits, then you need to continue to inform yourself. Frankly, I wholly respect the candor. I'm glad clearly well-educated experts recognize this. It's also corroborated by Trump's own niece who herself is Psychologist.
I came to this conclusion a long time ago… Every job I ever worked I excelled in every position, so much so that I would get recognition quite a bit. However, I noticed that the coworkers who were lazy, but sucked up to the boss, and/or threw their fellow coworkers under the bus, were the ones inevitably promoted. once they get in that position of power over others, the work environment turns extremely toxic. I can no longer work in corporate jobs for this reason. Our society DEFINITELY rewards the narcissists and psychopaths… it makes a lot of people feel detached and isolated. I don’t want to “suck up” or harm my fellow coworkers to get ahead, so I won’t. We are told that working hard and being a good person will get you where you want to go. Then our society shows us over and over again that is not the case. We weren’t meant to live like this. Such a small amount of people succeed and it’s not the type of people you want running the world.
Spot On!! I just walked off of a job where the laziest suck up got the boss position. This person cannot lead. And has continued on with giving the other lazy suck ups favoritism. I worked at that job way too long.
I hear you. I hear you!! I'm from the Netherlands, I'm 60 now en 15 years ago I just quit my job. I have been so maltreated and abused mentally, stabbed in the back, you name it. So nowadays, I do not have a lot of money to spend, but at least I'm free from that kind of... dare I say it? slavery.
Yes, that is many of our experiences. But what do we do? How do we get rid of them? You can't stop them, not the psychopaths anyway. It's the narcissists that are the bigger problem because there are so many of them who need their asses kisses on an hourly basis. At least with psychopath you get logic. With narcissists, asll you get is "look at me, look at me, tell me how special I am". My god, they're sickening and they're all over politics, and social media, lapping up as much narcissistic supply.
1:32:33 As an autistic person, I definitely do not have a deficit in empathy. This is a common stigma. In fact, my entire life I’ve struggled with hyper-empathy. I do have problems with understanding what others are thinking, but I also know when someone is suffering and I can feel that pain as if it’s my own. Studies show autistic individuals are on average more averse to causing harm to others, even if this produces better outcomes for us. The reason some people may think we lack empathy could be because we display our feelings differently than neurotypicals and our facial expressions may not match our internal emotions. I make very little facial expressions even though internally my emotions can at times feel debilitatingly strong. If anyone is interested in autism, I’d suggest researching “neurodiversity”. We do not lack empathy, we just display it differently.
I find I am slow to process emotionally laid content and my overwhelm at times causes outbursts for which I am focused on myself in the moment. Later I feel a lot. I really do not enjoy socializing. It’s too difficult for me. I do have empathy but it is impaired.
But can you be sure? My autistic partner in business has caused me more emotional and financial harm than I could have imagined. But I suspect it is because of my poor boundaries. They seem to under times of big stress lack reference to their responsibilities in the world, and their involvement, which can lead to damages to others around them, willful or not, they are capable of the same negligience as those with ASPD
That stigma also comes from the fact that narcissists hide their overt symptoms behind an autism or Asperger's diagnosis, and target autistic people as prey, spreading their tendencies
What is "toxic society"? You mean capitalism? That's the structure of our society.....it's not communism, it's not socialism, our society functions as a capitalist society. Capitalism rewards them, clearly. CEOs are beholden to their major shareholders. Their job is explicit: make capital gains at all costs. So things like social good and environmental sustainability become after thoughts in the pursuit of capital accumulation; therefore, some one who can genuinely disregard things that a neurotypical person would othetwise feel guilty about (bankrupting families, destroying the environment etc.) makes for the perfect CEO. If we had an economic model that didn't simpy pursue the accumulation of capital but tried to create the most sustainable good for the community, it wouldn't reward such people and certainly wouldn't give them so much power and privilege.
@@michaela8194 The core cause lies more deeper than social structure more like in it's foundation which is human nature and lower instincts embedded in our lizard part of brain. Yes it is also a thing in communism, socialism in autoritarian technocratic and even democratic atates that masses gravitate toward the strongest and being strong unlucky does not correlate with being good-willed. I just happend to live in ex communist country and from my observation people are exploiting others just as in previous time only diffrence are larger sums and a little more civilized way.
This is why psychology needs to become one of the main subjects in school. Not only teaching people about finding red flags in others, but also give them a chance to perhaps reflect on themselves in which ways they may or may not function.
That would be amazing if high schools taught psychology. It would in my opinion massively help them through their life. The ability to detect the red flags some have could help a lot of pain and confusion.
But you'll have wolves taking the same classes as the sheep, and the only ones who truly benefit are the wolves, and that is because they just learn how to manipulate better.
My puppy love first crush was a born psychopath. His nanny, from babyhood on, told me to stay away from him. His nanny was a superstitious, uneducated woman from the backcountry of Mexico. She described him as being born of the devil. In a way, she was right. He’s very high on the psychopathy checklist and has lived a ruinous, criminal, parasitic life. My parents recognized that there was a serious problem with his personality and went to great lengths to get me away from him. With their help, I was able to dodge a bullet. Thanks folks!
@Gen TH-cam No credit to me, I was dragged away kicking and screaming. But way back then, “normal” kids did tend to listen to authority. I’m only wise in hindsight and I am very blessed that my parents were paying close attention.
why you felt the need to put down the nanny? was it really that important to your story that she was mexican, uneducated or came from the countryside? She helped you and this is how you apprecciate her help. Gross. She should've kept her mouth shut
Fantastic! However, we do not need psychopathic CEOs, business is psychopathic (without conscience), we need leaders with a conscience and morality for balance.
In some cases, they are indeed rewarded. My current boss was a fairly low-level manager when I joined this company in 2015. She was promoted fairly frequently--one year she was promoted three times!--until she became our Executive Director, which she has been for at least 5 years now. It's easily the best job I've ever had, and the reason I'm in exactly the same role I was hired for 8 years ago is that I've chosen not to apply for the many promotions I've been offered. Perhaps if more neueotypical people (which I am not) than psychopaths were to apply for advancement, we might see a better balance in personality types at leadership levels.
Thank you. This is a brilliant explanation. On the street we say, “ psychopaths are born, and sociopaths are made”. Not entirely accurate but the gist fits. “ psychopaths, plan, and sociopaths react.” Dr. Ramani (clinical psychologist specializing in narcissism) said, “ in a quarrel, a sociopath lashes out while the psychopath puts you in a dumpster a month later”.
@@sarahlamb2333 More than likely a Borderline. In my particular case, I left him stunned…fight, flight or FREEZE, just by saying, “I don’t know what’s wrong with you…whether you’re gay, bi, or a pedophile.” I had just pointed out to him all he said in the usual bits and pieces such types impulsively spit out from their fractured minds, over an extended period of time. Despite that he twice denied being sexually abused as a child, I put all the pieces together like the puzzle they are, and then laid it on him. He froze. Then I got in my car and drove away. A week later, I brought him some info on childhood sexual abuse, but unlike before, his gate, with a No Trespassing sign on it, was closed. I could tell he was home, given there was smoke coming out of his chimney. But he wouldn’t respond to my texts to come out and talk to me. So I left. Then I put together more clues, and finally realized what he was. While Trump’s preference is to sexually assault women, this guy preferred children. I heard a detective say most pedophiles are males who were sexually abused as children. Do you know the stats on childhood sexual abuse before they age of 15? I’ve heard it’s 1 in 3 females and 1 in 6 males, although one highly respected Trauma Counselor, Diane Langberg, PhD, (here on YT and has a website,) thinks it may be as high as 1 in 5 males, given the fact that males are less likely to talk about it. Because they have been shamed and blamed, and makes are societally trained to “be a man,” “take it like a man,” and “just cowboy up.” They are expected to be strong. Don’t try you put your ideas on me since I’ve said this man gave me a case of PTSD. That happens a lot in situations of domestic abuse. While he was emotionally and financially abusing me, he was having ongoing physical altercations with his son when I wasn’t around. Twice he called me to call 911. He used me in Triangulation more than once. The local Sheriffs were already aware of him, since apparently it had be going on long before I met him. But he would always blame his son, of course. Shifting Blame and Irresponsibility are traits of a Psychopath. He would say his son was just like his father, as if being an abuser had skipped a generation, always playing Mr. Innocent. I went straight up No Contact after that. I did not pursue him in a Civil Suit for the thousands he got by means of Fraud. I knew he would twist things around and turn the courtroom into a circus of deception. This man now owns an AR-15, according to a photo I saw on FB a while back. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that his end could very well be the result of a mass shooting he carried out. Oh yeah…one more thing. His mother was sued for Fraud by her brother in an inheritance grab of an $800K, piece of cattle land…mineral rights included. The whole family were Midwest cattle ranchers, and there’s a whole lot oil drilling in the Midwest. Just ask G.W. Bush. She got their elderly father to sign a Transfer of Deed Upon Death to transfer the property their father planned to go to this brother, thus changing it to her ownership. Three days later, their father was dead. The brother (my Psycho’s uncle), suspected his sister of murdering their father. She was their father’s Caregiver, and had been a Registered Nurse and had the knowledge to carry that out. And it was my Psycho’s father who had sexually abused him…in the back seat of a car…the only place he told me he experienced Claustrophobia. Incest, I’ve since learned, is more common in rural areas. The sheer number of childhood sexual abuse should alarm everyone. And in most cases, it’s not “Stranger Danger.” The victim knows the Perp. It’s either a family member or a close friend of the family…someone the child thought they could trust. Childhood sexual abuse makes for all kind of crazy, especially among males. Fortunately, of those 1 in 6, most DO NOT become pedophiles, but that is surely how they’re made. The victim becomes the perpetrator…..the predator to the innocent an unsuspecting.
A psychopath/sociopath will have no problem learning how to be empathetic. They would love that workshop. Empathy is the number 1 way to earn someone’s trust. It’ll be another tool in their belt. Getting a psychopath/sociopath to truly FEEL empathy is nearly impossible if not working with a child.
Sociopath is a condition, a psychological one that humans get through abuse, it can be fixed, the empathy center still exists, thats what prisons are for, .... While psychopathy is a human with genetically different mind, it is incurable, a totally different brain structure in the areas crucial for the most human emotion of all, which technically doesn't make them a human, ... So you made a mistake, ...
Because we're not starving. They have been taken good care of that. I bet you that if we could not feed our children there would be an uprising in no time. We're spoilt in the Western society. I've been waiting forever for some kind of revolution. But I do not start it myself either.
People won't stand up for it as we fear that nobody will stand with us and/or we fear being ostracized . . . or in extreme cases we fear harm coming to our loved ones or ourselves.
I'd settle for just a mandatory fMRI so the psychopaths and semipsychopaths can be kept away from politics. Why is it that prison psychiatrists are so often fooled by subjects who are released with a "clean bill of psychological health" and then almost immediately commit multiple homicides?
Maybe cuz some of them look like little kids and it's an easy class more or less wouldn't know ssi rules are strange I'm disabled and stupid and can't be trusted? Something yeah life is stupid it just is always has been rules for thee but not fir me should be on the dollar bill .
Narcissistic personality disorder, especially malignant, is not just being full of yourself. They are extremely dangerous and can kill in one way or another. I know.
The book that changed my beliefs was Kent Kiehl's The Psychopath Whisperer. The book is based on hundreds of brain scans that were done on psychopaths in the prison system. They all had abnormalities in their brains which he describes. I dealt with hundreds of anti-social personalities in the jail/prison system during my career. I enjoyed working with them when I began to understand that they do not experience certain feelings. There was no sense in talking with them about issues with guilt, remorse, empathy etc. What I talked with them about was consequences of their actions. Very, very few were 'hard core' psychopaths, those devoid of all feelings, with black souls who felt nothing; the ones who had a lizard's brain.They scared me.
A narcissist is a monster too. Many CEOs and business cultures are actually narcissistic and not exactly psychopathic. A narcissist is a person without remorse, just like psychopaths!
I agree 100% with the 37 experts when it comes to Trump. However, there is something seriously screwy about this guy's moral compass. Some of his claims are outright false. Psychopaths cannot be treated or reformed: they have a hardware problem rather than a software problem. They're certainly not "sick" and deserving of sympathy or lenient sentencing. Their victims and a world full of potential victims are the ones deserving of compassion and consideration. We need SANE laws that protect the majority from dangerous behavior. Period. "Defective brains" do not deserve a free pass.
My manager is a psychopath, she made many victims at my job, but the boss keep her there because they think she is good for the company, I’m her latest victim, as a cancer survivor she made my life a real life hell, she put me to do the worst and most physical work, I have reported her to the HR I believe they talked to her she stopped for while, but her lack of empathy and remorse makes her back in verbal abuse and making fun of my complaint, I’m thinking to file a complaint with the EEOC but Im scared of her 😢😢😢
I’m very sorry you had to go through this. I am VERY happy you are a cancer survivor though! 😊 Look for a new job.. It’s not worth it. Cockroaches are everywhere but you can choose to not deal with them. Good luck! ❤
So much of what he says about Trump can clearly noted about the majority of politicians, both in the U.S. and many other countries. With few exceptions now, especially in Western-alligned countries, which have been and are predatory in nature.
I agree, many politicians are narcissistic and some are psychopaths. Nonetheless, Trump is the world’s most famous and obvious case of #narcissism Trump is the obvious archetype of a narcissistic politician "type."
Furthermore, I would argue that Putin is one of the more obvious presentations of the Dark Triad (Machiavellianism Psychopathy Narcissism) set of traits. The reason he is more obvious is that he got rid of all government institutions that can check his powers. In contrast to Russia, the "West" has stronger institutions that are better able to stop or contain (and sometimes minimize or cover-up) the psychopathic desires and actions of its leaders.
Professor Choi,I love your graphics! The whole subject is profoundly important. There's a reason we think of psychopaths as inhuman. It gives me hope just knowing our natural tendency is towards empathy. Most of us are truly lovable.
@@nerobaal6655 I've got high hopes for AI. If it has a self preservation instinct it's going to have to start by saving humanity from itself. It's already working hard towards that end. For example, this video was suggested to us by an algorithm!
My ex declared that no one in the family was allowed to say the words "I'm bored", or there would be hard manual labor to follow. They suffer from perpetual boredom and manipulate others to entertain themselves, it would seem to me from observation. Haven't even watched the video yet.
@@recoveringsoul755my grandfather told me when I was a kid that he needs us to watch him have sex with people other than my grandma go to nude beach with him, otherwise he would beat us up.
I have trouble buying the proposition that it's all in their brains. I'm sure the differences exist, but think it may be effect, not cause. A neurobiological explanation comes extremely close to annihilating all concepts of good and evil. I'm not a gnostic. I understand quite well that we are corporeal. But I can't accept that these people have no volition. My hunch is that because the brain in infancy and toddlerhood is at its most plastic, the psychopath's extremely early commitment to evil causes neuroplastic change which accommodates their choice.
This video is extremely helpful in resolving the issues of gaslighting in family court. I am the Exec Dir of a nonprofit designed to help provide our judges and decision makers with resources to help understand the psychopathy of parents who deceive and harm their children and former spouses. Our family court system has traditionally only focused on law, psychology and accounting. My goal is to get science (forensics, neuroscience, medicine (especially as to trauma) along with the original 3 to help fix our family courts. THANK YOU so much!
Sadly Socialists/Communists RUN PSYCHOLOGY Strange, I quite like Trumps policies. He calls a spade a spade. If his Ego makes him want to be the most loved president, maybe that could be.... A GREAT THING!?
The knowledge about this kind of human disability in our common society has the power to save the humanity. I thank you so much for your strength to enlighten the general public. Durch Aufklärung erreichen wir den Wandel durch Vernunft und bereiten so den Weg in die Moderne.
Politicians and CEO's i would hardly called disabled. I mean they are doing quite fine i would say and they are doing way better than the average citizen. Are these people disabled? Nope! These politicians and CEO's just know how to play the system far better than us normies. Not to mention they are okay doing thing's that most people myself included would not be comfortable doing. Just because they are not natured like you or me does not mean they are disabled.
Psychopaths are made by violence, exposure to gore at an early age and witnessing murderous Acts which they can easily see on any social media site many TV shows and of course video games.
Well, you know, christian kids regularly see a crucified man-God in a really cruel way, yet they became more empathic with age, while psychopaths gradually desensitise in very same situations.
Covid certainly exposed the poor education systems across the world. The majority of people I came across despite 12 years of schooling and many with tertiary education, failed to understand viruses, pandemics and vaccines. Our primary, secondary and tertiary education systems really need to change radically. Thank your Dr Choi for an intense, well grounded and entertaining session.
time to Unschool//Not Public School Indoctrination//time to go back to free range children/free range parents//Not New Age Helicopter Parents promotd bt The New Age Cult !!!
I grew up in a poor rural community, but I learned everything about vaccines, epidemics, quarantines and how they all should work, in health class in elementary school. None of this should be a mystery to anyone with a sixth grade edication
@@Geoplanetjane Yes, indeed, I was generalizing. It depends on so many factors though. The country and their education system, the particular school, how well it functions etc, and the comprehension of each child, let alone the retention of the information.
Lol "I would never call someone a paychopath without personally evaluating them... But let me give this speech about psychopaths and constantly mention him."
This is not a very serious video. Not much neuro-science, or any kind of real science for that matter. And frankly it annoys me that what seems to be going on is not science helping us understand psychopaths in politics, but a scientist pretending that his political opinions are science. Ironically, Choi starts with an egregious example of such an abuse, a book charging that Barry Goldwater was a psychopath, a claim which indeed seems not only scientifically irresponsible, but also frankly silly. Ironically, there's a much better case for Goldwater's opponent in the presidential race of 1964, Lyndon Johnson. Johnson was widely regarded as being paranoid and highly manipulative. Odd that Choi doesn't comment on this. Choi lacks the courage to say so directly, but insinuates quite strongly, that Donald Trump is a psychopath, and, with a wink, invites the listener to draw their own conclusion. For this, he adduces such scientifically solid evidence as anecdotal testimony by a disgruntled relative and Trump's exaggerating how many people were at his inauguration. He ignores the fact that Trump does not fit most of the criteria he cites, at least to any greater degree than the typical politician. A highly energetic man, who has been successful in multiple long term enterprises like running a real estate empire, a TV show, books, etc, and has numerous loyal friends, etc., doesn't fit the pattern at all. Trump is a very brash, and polarizing figure, likely quite high in disagreeableness. It might be interesting if someone with a more serious commitment to science would comment on the traits that actually make Trump unusual. For that matter, perhaps someone with insight could comment on why some scientists go out of their way to foster a public persona, going as far in some cases as giving TED talks with dubious content. As a a deeply committed scientist, I find it odd that, while there are mountains of fascinating real science so high that it could take a lifetime to expound, a person such as Choi would squander the public's attention on rubbish. In any case, I didn't really come here to find out Choi's political views, or even his opinion about Donald Trump. Someone interested specifically in Trump might want to watch Jordan Peterson's comments in th-cam.com/video/eYwu14Qrimw/w-d-xo.html Jordan Peterson: "Meghan Markle GRATES On Me!" - TH-cam
40:44 a slap on the wrist? Our parents need training in gentle parenting. Remove the cookie jar from their reach with a firm “No.” When the tantrum is done, then you can discuss appropriate times for cookies and appropriate ways of getting them.
The issue is: since they have no consciousness they actually ACTION upon their desires while "good people/conscious" usually DONT act but rather weigh the consequences... Therefore a lot more bad ones move to the top. ACTION is key.
Before hearing this video, l was in a discussion with acquaintances about some horrific actions by some people and they were talking about punishment that usually included death of some kind. I said I wouldn't kill them and got astonished looks. I clarified my thoughts and stated " I would leave them alive but curse them with extreme empathy for the rest of their lives. This video seems to support that idea.
Well, I’ve studied Trump since before he took office, and this is a succession of disorders I came up with. Reactive Attachment Disorder (age of 2) - per Mary Trump, he didn’t bond with his mother, due to her difficult pregnancy with the next child, so she could not care for Donald. Also, Fred Trump told his wife she was to raise the girls, while he would raise the boys. Another disaster in the making. ADHD (adolescent years) the reason for his long time use of Amphetamines, including cocaine. Such drugs are “uppers” which would take him up and over the top, to bring him back down to relative normalcy. Had a friend many years ago who did this with here ADHD son. Conduct Disorder (early teens) the reason he was thrown into the Military Academy, in an attempt to straighten him out. His older sister, the Judge, referred to it as a Reform School. It only made him worse. See video “Trump vs. Biden 2020,” which includes references to their childhoods. Conduct Disorder is the precursor diagnosis required in the assessment of Psychopathy. Mental Health Experts are gagged by the Goldwater Rule, which states they cannot diagnose someone from afar. To do so means they’d lose their membership in the APA. But since I’m not a member of their community, I am free to offer my opinion. (Once a Paralegal, always a researcher, and I’ve done over 20,000 hours of research on Mental Disorders, zeroing in one the 10 Personality Disorders. I’ve also worked in both a Facility for the Mentally Disordered as well as a local County Jail, where such people often land first, prior to any formal diagnosis. Our prisons are full of Sociopaths and Psychopaths, the difference of which has been debated for decades - the nurture vs nature debate. But besides Psychopathy, Trump also has Narcissistic Personality Disorder in co-morbidity. And here’s what I find puzzling. Trump has all kinds of Phobias, per Michael Cohen, who has recited them quite often in his Podcast, “Mea Culpa.” I could be wrong about this, but that tells me Trump also has Paranoid Personality Disorder. That’s at odds with Psychopathy, which states they have no fear. Still, having spent 18 months in close proximity to a man just like Trump, he had this same succession of disorders, and the same three adult disorders. He even told me, “I’m above the law.” It’s a pattern. The similarities were remarkable. I just got done watching a Netflix documentary on Prison Inmates. Without exception, every one of them told of their child abuse. Also on Netflix there are several Trump-related documentaries. Besides those, I highly recommend to others, which clearly apply to him…. Inside the Criminal Mind (2 of the 4 examples used are Crime Lords and Cult Leaders) How To Become a Tyrant. (Six examples, and the tactics they use to become Dictators) Other references here on YT…. Bandy Lee - psychiatrist Justin A. Frank - psychoanalyst David Cay Johnston - investigative journalist, tax expert and Trump historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat - expert on Dictators So to me, Trump is a classic case of Psychopathy, and I am not bound to the gag rule, so I’m free to express my opinion. Study the line-up I’ve posited here so you know what to expect at any age. Hope that helps.
Contrary to the ridiculous reply left earlier (& resourced by Netflix, of ALL things, may as well have used "60 Minutes" or "PBS"- and Michael Cohen, who is a 8x convicted felonious perjurer/liar & Trump's sister who is also a known liar & opportunist), children CANNOT be diagnosed with psychiatric/psychological disorders as their age prohibits this. Recently, therapists have begun slapping labels on kids, much to the chagrin of their professional ethics & standards, just like ppl stepping out of their roles & diagnosing those whom they've never met; however, this is becoming more & more common. The "MedicaI lndustriaI CompIex", much more powerful than the MiIitary lndustriaI Compex (& responsible for more mayhem & more lives- over 250k ppl die every year due to medical errors, alone, & while over 35% of Americans are uninsured or underinsured, their lobbyists, our tax funded agencies, and ALL other of their combined income rakes in *OVER $7 TRILLION/YEAR,* which is 100x more than the Military lndustriaI CompIex). There are NOW studies released from 15 years ago which prove that SSRI's not only do NOT help depression AT ALL, but are downright harmful & especially so for anyone *under age the 25.* This is something no one is allowed to look at in regard to mass kiIIngs (w/FlREARMS) which EVERY ONE of them had in common! Something also never permitted exposed is the cost of all this gender medical care & ALL of them are on SSRl's, including the latest kiIIers. Another comprehensive study showed that more than half of all chiIdren now receiving care for GlD (Gender ldentity Disorder) have mothers suffering from either BPD or NPD, compared to the control group (under 6%)(pub. in jaacap- Journal for the Amer. Acad. of ChiId And Adolescent Psychiatry- Mar 1991). So, it seems as though we should be looking at the mothers more closely than solely at these chiIdren & trying to evaluate them. As the mom of four myself, I know this is hard, but it's true. And those pretending to be able to analyze someone from sound bites, stories from siblings or lawyers, and/or any or way, should be met with extreme caution & skepticism. Everyone & ANYONE who reaches a pinnacle of success not attained by many has done so through hard work & tenacity. It is true that SOME have achieved that status bc of cruelty & taking advantage of others, but to assume that ALL have is ignorant & just plain dumb. Like the other man replying, I too have worked with prisoners for DECADES & can say with certainty that those *_caught_* do NOT have the same psychological make up as those we're speaking of. Lastly, I find it odd that they omit Joe Biden, who has a 50 year record of lying to everyone about everything: His grades in school, visiting Nelson Mandela, marching with MLK, driving trucks/buses, writing the worst legislation ever in Congress (the 1994 crime bill), etc.
Thank you very much for this talk. We need science. Hopefully in the future we can help, both, psychopaths, their possible victims and anybody who has psychiatric issues. Science will ensure happiness for all :)
You had suggested it was an improvement in evolution but as a survivor I don’t agree. I have truly evolved from my experiences. Where he will always remain a predator. If children can learn how to communicate more effectively to get their needs met and how to identify predatory behaviors.. we could do a lot of prevention
I have Major Depressive Disorder as well as Borderline Personality, probably triggered by a traumatic brain injury (TBI) when I was 15 years old, though I showed symptoms of both conditions before the injury. I've heard of TMS, though before today it hasn't been a priority to learn more about it. I do believe that there's a rhyme and reason to the Universe; I clicked on this video because of my political acquaintances and my association with psychopaths/ narcissists though the reference to TMS rang some bells in my brain too. Thank you for this presentation! I will try to contact you more privately soon.
A major problem with Psychology is that it's professionals confuse individual identity with the illnesses individuals have. We don't say someone with cancer is a "Cancer" we say they have cancer and we try to help them recover. People are not their mental illnesses. Some diagnostic labels used are also questionable and do not seem to have any basis in objective science. There are definitely people who are stark raving mad, and they are pretty easy to identify without a battery of psyche tests. Beyond that there may be more subtle psychological illnesses, but the science of psychology is too immature to be trusted when it comes to the kinds of diagnostic procedures commonly used to classify large numbers of people in our population. I find it very objectionable to associate whole groups of people, i.e., CEOs and politicians with terms that are dehumanizing (monsters). Professionals in this field should steer entirely clear of such rhetoric, not merely because it is applied inappropriate, but because it supports a pattern of misuse of the procedures and resulting diagnostic procedures of the entire discipline. it is somewhat unclear whether many/most diagnoses (aside from psychosis) are describing problems that aren't simply general adjustment issues that more or less universal in the population, particularly during certain periods of acute personal difficulty. It is not merely that there is a range or scale of severity, but that there is not much real science behind the diagnostic labels. A test may detect this or that psychological problem, but if the problem is really just a more or less verbal description of a pattern of behavior that some anonymous authority has decided is a mental disorder, based perhaps on a consensus of professional opinion, which is not based on any scientific work whatsoever. This seems an apt description of most of the material in the manuals describing psychiatric disorders. Again, I am not trying to say that people do not suffer from mental illnesses, they obviously do. But IMHO we do not know how to approach these issues objectively and there is, within this profession, an extraordinary, constant quantity of loose talk that involves confident assertions about things that are simply not established in any rigorous way. Even the so called 'hard sciences' do not regard their theories as proven factual objective truth. Science sticks to theories that explain an important forms, patterns of change, etc., of the natural world. The most established theories are those that have important, disprovable predicates. I don't think there is anything in psychological diagnostics that can meet even the minimal standards of rigorous science. The mind is really one of the final frontiers of scientific research. We have no widely agreed upon theory of how consciousness works, or even what it is. It may be somewhat more reasonable to refer to someone as a murderer or as a serial killer, as this is simply conventional use of language to associate people with notorious, anti-social activity they engaged in. But a discipline that has the ambition to be part of the treatment of persons suffering from illnesses should be more careful about any sort of discussion that can be a pretext for discriminating against or dehumanizing persons or groups of persons. Historically psychiatric diagnostics have tended to be biased to reflect social, not scientific consensus, and often used to pass judgement of people whose views or behavior is broadly unacceptable to society, for largely arbitrary, context related reasons, and not based on anything more rigorous than that. Take for example the diagnosis of homosexuality, which was categorized as a mental disorder until fairly recently.
Brain structure & function is really definitive of "you." Much more so than, say, breast cancer. And we're talking about people (psychopaths) who have demonstrated themselves to often be dangerous. Your essay is muddying the waters. I'm tired of the carnage caused by the Sociopathic crowd. They need to be dealt with. Yes, we do need much better science. But your meandering, flighty ideas only allow the Sociopaths slack to do what they do.
Psychopathy for some is essentially a huge advantage and can be used for good or evil the capacity not to feel certain emotions does not mean they can’t understand them and therefore base decision rationally rather then emotionally
Really. Name some psychopaths who did a bunch of good in their lives. Because what I've seen is a WHOLE lot of BAD that comes from people who have various sociopathic qualities. Including full-blown psychopathy.
The scary part for me is that a person with a phd in neuroscience is presenting psychopathy cases with not very well hidden entitlement, superiority and low key passive aggressive humor. While I'm happy to see so much talk on the subject and professionals educating, I'm also not surprised now at all why everyone is walking around throwing diagnoses at random. Have you tried to watch this discussion on your own since it was held?
I'd like to see more of a balance - throw in a few psychopaths from the other side of the political aisle. I can think of a few along with their close family members.
I agree with you. This guy is shilling for democrats /progressives. Not one political example is from the Democrats side. Yet we know Hillary, Biden, Nuland, Blinken, Fauci, George Soros and so many others in the Democrats /neocons/neoliberals are likely either narcissists or psychopaths. There are narcissists and psychopaths in both sides of the so-called "political divide". Generally the world is under the rule of psychopaths and narcissists.
17:00+ "How morally outraged are you" I am super-outraged motivated & ready to cooperate if cooperation exists & validate witness & proof with others & prevent & act on these types of crimes
Why should we judge Trump based on his going to the movies. You cannot prove intent. Perhaps he needed a distraction from his pain. After all he was raised according to his sister, to be a strong man, not tearful.
Question: Does the drug taking change the areas that are already weak in a psychopath? In other wards can a regular drug user become a psychopath due to damage from drug use?
Given that early infant nurturance can affect the amygdala, and given that different cultures have policies and programs supporting early nurturance and infant attachment, can some cultures be more or less vulnerable to having psychopaths?
When I was a child I was so shocked by the behavior of some boys who pulled out the legs of some bugs for fun. This experience hurt me so much. But to be honest there are so many movies out there that normal people can watch without true emotions, scenes that really freak me out. They say it is only a movie. I know it is a movie but it reminds me of the people who really suffer from violence and I just can not watch it for fun. It also makes me wonder why disrespectful or cruel behavior towards women is so widely accepted in society especially in sexual contexts. Even the women themselves seem to be willing to be treated badly, maybe to „please“ the guys? I am often confused by the acceptance of violence in people without a disorder like that. With someone like Trump, ist is not that disturbing if he behaves like he does, (though it makes us angry of course) because it is not surprising, but with people who are very morally sensible, if they regularly watch murder in TV Shows just for fun, I get really confused.
You can be both empathic and yet bravely watch cruelty with being open to it. Yes, its reality. It happens and will happen . We need to either win over or live with trauma. I watch cruelty scenes with empathy, but they do not pain me topoint of impossibility to watch further. The make movie more deep. Even if its heartbreaking sometimes. Its also have some cathartic quality, some freeing quality. Whatever can happen, it either kills us of makes us stronger. Live can overcome even that.
I read somewhere that sociopaths did have guilt but were liable to impulsively kill someone, whereas psychopaths were totally cold and would strategically plan out a murder and not feel any guilt. I'm so confused at why I have learned this and now I hear different explanations. Now that you have defined the DSMs definition of antisocial personality disorder being split into cold and calpus psychopaths and then others who have propensity for violent behaviour - that sounds more like what I think I learned was the difference between sociopath and psychopath. I'm going to have to try and unlearn wjst I learned.
I think you'll find that these terms haven't been well defined in the past. There are reasons why Psychology/Psychiatry hasn't gotten narcissism/sociopathy/psychopathy right. One reason is incompetence. Another is fear. Another might be that n/s/p was less common in the past. Yet another reason might be that it was in the n/s/p crowd's interest NOT to bring an explanation to light. 30-50 years ago, "narcissism" was not commonly known, let alone well understood.
I see you are stating that moral counciousness is related to pre frontal cortex, right. To my mind - moral - it is only one aspect of consciousness as a whole.
Not that I aprove Donald Trump in any way, yet I find it quite unfair that so much focus was put on Donald Trump when Junior Bush as well as theas other president figure s in the past had much more brutal behaviour s and cruel decision-making...pres
@@christinakuczora4862 "Observed" in our highly- biased media landscape! I'm not a Trump supporter, but I know propaganda when it's steadily crammed into the body politic while omitting the necessary information for informed discourse.
Kill one to save five ... The problem is not the immediacy of that moment. The problem arises when situations create more abstraction and uncertainty. Those with authority can easily use this principle to sacrifice others to dangers which only exist in their mind.
Hey! I saw this when it was released, and it was a part in it where you mentioned some good treatment to depression, I don't know if it's been removed efter because I couldn't find it now. Could you just tell me what the name for that depression treatment? (great video and very in formative tho!)
@@ScienceonTapORWA I don't care for trump and the politics, but he seems more like a NARC to me. Yes, my comment stays the same. They're not all monsters.
I’m not defending anyone or making excuses as everyone makes their own choices in life. One thing I’ve definitely notice though during my 30 year career as an executive assistant is that people in so called lower level positions greatly simplify what it takes to run any kind of large organization. Decisions at an executive level are extremely difficult to make. The level of complexity and the amount of heat a CEO has to take is not for the faint hearted. Not to mention the kind of hours they have to put in and sacrifices that are necessary to be made in their private lives.
I don't mean to be flip but all they do is make phone calls and sit at a desk all day. Honestly I'm not impressed. I find the people who do the actual work from the upper level down to the entry-level much more deserving of respect for their efforts. I fully admit, my direct experience is limited. I've never sat in the in the big chair of any large firm nor do I have any wish to. But I honestly do not believe it would be that hard. It's the legions of people underneath that CEO or whoever they are that gets all the jobs done, the CEO just gets to reap the benefit and take the credit. And for doing what? He might be the face of the company, but unless he's worked his way up from the bottom he doesn't know a damn thing about what they do or what it takes to get it done. I'm afraid this is a pretty common truism in life. If you feel you've worked for good people worthy of respect I think that's great. I'm sincerely glad you feel so, but as someone from the outside, of course I can't vouch for that. I tend to see all big business and the people who rise to the top and such a self-serving if not toxic environment, in a very negative light. I must say, if it's a large company, they bring all of that pressure on themselves now don't they? By wanting to be more ruthless, by seeing greed as a good thing and constantly wanting to expand, constantly wanting to screw over more workers, to exploit new markets, to drive more sales no matter what the cost?? To constantly seek expansion, instead of being satisfied with the often very impressive current profit level and market share, is this not true?? It won't come as any surprise to you that as a hard Leftist, I am extremely hostile and feel judgmental towards all big business, so I'll be frank about my bias for clarity's sake. I do think most big business is absolute trash and it prizes trash people and a trash philosophy of "win at all costs". That is my operating perspective and so that informs my judgment anytime I try to impartially casually evaluate and judge these so-called "great" CEOs and business "leaders". I find the cult of the belief in the "great business leader" in Western culture still quite common. You see them due to your personal connection as wise people trying to balance many plates on a rod and make wise calls. Perhaps in a some cases this is true. As an outsider I see see them differently. I'm not saying there is no place for business or the for-profit sector at all, but in my gathered judgement, ALL bigger business corporate structures are inherently toxic, the only variable being one of degree. When a 'maximum profit at all costs' is your only operating value, it is inevitable that those who lose out sooner or later are the workers, local or overseas communities, localized environmental/ecological hazards, and/or the consumers themselves.
@@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999 I tend to agree but I really want to believe that good useful psychopaths exist. We need to normalize mental health screening! More research...
@@jamiemetcalfe7945 perhaps. Yeah perhaps. I'm not sure if they can be or if it's worth it to have someone around who has no moral/ethical limitations whatsoever, or extremely few, but I'm open to suggestions.
What about those who have some to deep empathy but only to "their own"? They have no empathy for "them." In fact they often have contempt or even hatred for "them." And in fact some people who seem to finally find empathy by joining a hate group.
Most people are like tgat. Its a spectrum, where only 2% of people are able to feel same empathy for total strangers as they feel for themselves. Also, 2% are cold blooded psychopaths. Others are somewhere in the middle. They feel for their circle and do not give an actual damn about other families , coworkers or strangers, except for what implied by law of by etiquette. Its "normal people with ego and some boundaries".
Fabulous lecture. Don’t worry about lectures being too long. It would be great, in my opinion, if they went twice as long. Have you considered joining with Public Radio as an umbrella under which to operate?
Do you think maybe Andrea Yates husband is a psychopath since he kept his mentally unwell wife pregnant while she stayed home isolated to homeschool etc? Theres more to this sad story.
It seems like psychopathy and narcissism overlap in many areas. I dated one of these and I didn't realize it at the time. I thought I was going crazy. He'd blame me for his own shortcomings. It was always me. He lied constantly, pathologically. Very promiscuous. I'd be accused of crazy things. I seen past a lot of these defects of character because I was lonely and I fell in love with him. Hes back in jail again and it's been a few months. We are done. I'll never go back again. Even though I have days when i miss him for some reason, I wish I'd have never met him. Good riddance, I'm free! 🎉🙂
While I will agree that dangerous and or incurable people should be separated from society in some fashion, there's no correlation between extended sentences of confinement and better behavior. I agree we need some form of separation for those who pose a genuine threat but other than that I do not think people should be in prison longer than one year for non-extreme offenses. We got psychopaths at every level of our political structure who get a sadistic pleasure out of ruining many thousands of lives a year unjustly. While no doubt violent predators must be kept behind bars somewhere, the vast majority of people do not belong in prison and do not deserve long sentences, or in many cases even a short one. Mass incarceration is just an excuse for political sociopaths to oppress and harm those they consider inferior or are hateful towards, namely minority communities and the poor. The large majority of our prisons should be closed and the people inside liberated and freed from this ongoing crime against humanity and sent back home to restart their lives once and for all. Mass incarceration is the greatest domestic injustice of our time. It's an economic and racial Jim Crow 2.0.
As a nurse student (with a special interest in psychiatry, neurology and psychology), we are taught that prevention of illnesses is most likely way more imortant than treating an "occuring" illness that is already at it's "worst" (if you will). It is absolutely preventable for psychopaths for instance, to do bad things.
I read a forum where aspd I dividuals describe their childhood. One of them out of pure curiosity puf his little sister in a microwave and watched her screaming and burned with same curiosity and amusment. Then, parents came took her out with burns on the skin, were very afraid and angry, but he felt nothing dramatic about what he did . His family was healthy and living, nothing bad was ever done to him. Seems it'd not that preventable.
Late 1970 & early 1980’s my mom took my sister & I to parties at Dr. Hare’s property. I remember lots of other wild kids & playing flash light tag outside. The house was billowing with pot smoke & incense, lots of herringbone tweed, corduroy overalls, bell bottoms…
I think that maybe some of them feel a lot of guilt. They just can't process it past their ego. They will either try to rationalize and excuse their bad behaviour and dysfunctional thinking, or to try and misplace it on to other people, maybe.
I was looking forward to a sensible, grown up insight into the neurology of these ppl..instead it turned out to be a video on how dangerous Trump is..fvcking hell! Eye rolls intensifies..and thats from somebody whos certainly no fan of Trump.
I saw a video about covid in China. A guard in China hit a woman up to a bus that they closed. The bus was filled with people who got covid, and they just closed them there. If they wanted to leave they hit them until they stopped trying to escape. I don't want to learn from China's president, he is cruel in so many ways.
How alarming that you stated the Insanity defense may change in favor of psychopaths. that would be horrible for society Psychopaths know the difference between wrong or right they just don't care and that is NOT insanity.
💯 I had the same reaction. 😳 The presenter voiced several weird, alarming opinions with regard to psychopaths. These are indeed monsters, not "sick" people.
For those of us that cannot help but see the psychopathy of Trump, because it is like a gigantic, neon flashing sign, it's an example that is hard to deny. The truth hurts, I'm sure that's why you had to give up - cognitive dissonance.
The presenter merely used Trump as an example as Trump is a current, well known figure whose behavior most folks have observed over the last several years especially.
I imagine many coldly calculating sociopaths would think we were the aberrant ones and they were just doing what was rational, useful or amusing to them in the moment and we are the soft, weak, and useless ones who have their value system inverted.
They do. One primary psychopath admitted that he definitely though until his late 30's, that people all are like him, just acting , because of some rules of begaviour. He was amazed to discover that people do feel fear and emotional pain for real.
De Sade books is all about that type of people. Read Justine and Julliette books oh his. He and his heroes believe that some people are born naturally to be Masters. Others are born to be slaves. Masters do not feel shame, remorse, fear. They also are oj with being enslaved by stronger Masters or form mutually beneficial groups. They pretend they follow morals, but I side they do not give a damn about all rules expt pleasure, freedom and natural science. They can kill their parents for pleasure or torture them, if they like it. They believe that other people are weak and support their weakness by their egoistic attitude, so they deserved to be punished for egoistic ability to form attachments. Masters are above everything, they do not suffer from guilt and never attached emotionally to their victims. They do not think weak, soft people with big desires and attachments deserve what they hungry for.
Higher functioning psychopaths who become CEOs, cops, attorneys, surgeons and those who are able to be employed in regular jobs will not want to go to jail...but they're still psychopaths who will struggle against their own impulses to break the law because of their extreme entitlement and god-complex.
Almost every trait of psychology can be described in negative terms in the modern world but could equally be described as positive traits in times past; or maybe the fact I think that makes me a psychopath 🤔
There are people who he have experience of love and guilt but lack fear. They can be happy together in calm times and tough at violent times, with a goal to establish safety for others. Psychopaths tend to make chaos even in cslmer times. And while they can survive harsh times, they do not internally benefit tj constru t something ling term and stable. Full range of emotions makes life more interesting regardless of time. Limited range , well, limits. You can't perfectly imitate something you only learned from others who had it firsthand but never felt going out of you naturally with already set rules and characteristics.
Does he mean cognitive empathy when he is discussing teaching empathy to individuals with psychopathy ? Because I was under the impression that affective empathy was unavailable to a person with psychopathy. I was confused at this point in the lecture.
This is the MOST comprehensive, all-encompasing, intellectually honest and thoughtful conference presenting the issue of psychopathy, I have EVER seen!
Edit: YOU KNOW WHAT?, SUBSCRIBED!
I totally agree...and subscribed too !
@@joel6427 Except we all know it's true and if you're uncomfortable with this realization that Trump demonstrates obvious psychopathic traits, then you need to continue to inform yourself. Frankly, I wholly respect the candor. I'm glad clearly well-educated experts recognize this. It's also corroborated by Trump's own niece who herself is Psychologist.
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Yes it’s good to have science make sense of the insanity in my life.
@@DarkerSideOfDawn Do you suspect you may be a person suffering from Psychopathy?
I came to this conclusion a long time ago… Every job I ever worked I excelled in every position, so much so that I would get recognition quite a bit. However, I noticed that the coworkers who were lazy, but sucked up to the boss, and/or threw their fellow coworkers under the bus, were the ones inevitably promoted. once they get in that position of power over others, the work environment turns extremely toxic. I can no longer work in corporate jobs for this reason. Our society DEFINITELY rewards the narcissists and psychopaths… it makes a lot of people feel detached and isolated. I don’t want to “suck up” or harm my fellow coworkers to get ahead, so I won’t.
We are told that working hard and being a good person will get you where you want to go. Then our society shows us over and over again that is not the case. We weren’t meant to live like this. Such a small amount of people succeed and it’s not the type of people you want running the world.
Spot On!! I just walked off of a job where the laziest suck up got the boss position. This person cannot lead. And has continued on with giving the other lazy suck ups favoritism. I worked at that job way too long.
@@searchingforwhatislooking I'll be checking that one out! Thanks for sharing.
Nailed it.
I hear you. I hear you!! I'm from the Netherlands, I'm 60 now en 15 years ago I just quit my job. I have been so maltreated and abused mentally, stabbed in the back, you name it.
So nowadays, I do not have a lot of money to spend, but at least I'm free from that kind of... dare I say it? slavery.
Yes, that is many of our experiences. But what do we do? How do we get rid of them? You can't stop them, not the psychopaths anyway. It's the narcissists that are the bigger problem because there are so many of them who need their asses kisses on an hourly basis. At least with psychopath you get logic. With narcissists, asll you get is "look at me, look at me, tell me how special I am". My god, they're sickening and they're all over politics, and social media, lapping up as much narcissistic supply.
1:32:33 As an autistic person, I definitely do not have a deficit in empathy. This is a common stigma. In fact, my entire life I’ve struggled with hyper-empathy. I do have problems with understanding what others are thinking, but I also know when someone is suffering and I can feel that pain as if it’s my own. Studies show autistic individuals are on average more averse to causing harm to others, even if this produces better outcomes for us. The reason some people may think we lack empathy could be because we display our feelings differently than neurotypicals and our facial expressions may not match our internal emotions. I make very little facial expressions even though internally my emotions can at times feel debilitatingly strong. If anyone is interested in autism, I’d suggest researching “neurodiversity”. We do not lack empathy, we just display it differently.
I find I am slow to process emotionally laid content and my overwhelm at times causes outbursts for which I am focused on myself in the moment. Later I feel a lot. I really do not enjoy socializing. It’s too difficult for me. I do have empathy but it is impaired.
I'm on the spectrum and agree completely. Maybe our reactions and body language is 'inappropriate'. Personally, I'm a terrible animal lover.
But can you be sure? My autistic partner in business has caused me more emotional and financial harm than I could have imagined. But I suspect it is because of my poor boundaries. They seem to under times of big stress lack reference to their responsibilities in the world, and their involvement, which can lead to damages to others around them, willful or not, they are capable of the same negligience as those with ASPD
I saw a post on IG that most neurotypicals are undiagnosed narcissists/pycho/sociopaths.
That stigma also comes from the fact that narcissists hide their overt symptoms behind an autism or Asperger's diagnosis, and target autistic people as prey, spreading their tendencies
Scary thing is that Toxic Society rewards them for their crimes.
What is "toxic society"? You mean capitalism? That's the structure of our society.....it's not communism, it's not socialism, our society functions as a capitalist society. Capitalism rewards them, clearly. CEOs are beholden to their major shareholders. Their job is explicit: make capital gains at all costs.
So things like social good and environmental sustainability become after thoughts in the pursuit of capital accumulation; therefore, some one who can genuinely disregard things that a neurotypical person would othetwise feel guilty about (bankrupting families, destroying the environment etc.) makes for the perfect CEO. If we had an economic model that didn't simpy pursue the accumulation of capital but tried to create the most sustainable good for the community, it wouldn't reward such people and certainly wouldn't give them so much power and privilege.
I agree 👍
@@michaela8194 I agree, it's complicated subject matters and many can be duped into supporting really demented stuff
@@michaela8194 The core cause lies more deeper than social structure more like in it's foundation which is human nature and lower instincts embedded in our lizard part of brain. Yes it is also a thing in communism, socialism in autoritarian technocratic and even democratic atates that masses gravitate toward the strongest and being strong unlucky does not correlate with being good-willed. I just happend to live in ex communist country and from my observation people are exploiting others just as in previous time only diffrence are larger sums and a little more civilized way.
@@michaela8194 ok commie
This is why psychology needs to become one of the main subjects in school.
Not only teaching people about finding red flags in others, but also give them a chance to perhaps reflect on themselves in which ways they may or may not function.
I think that would only give psychopaths the info to be more dangerous and deceitful
That would be amazing if high schools taught psychology. It would in my opinion massively help them through their life. The ability to detect the red flags some have could help a lot of pain and confusion.
@@dannacollins2520yes that's the risk, however it's being used already against us.
But you'll have wolves taking the same classes as the sheep, and the only ones who truly benefit are the wolves, and that is because they just learn how to manipulate better.
@@andreameigs1261 teach all about wolves and sheep, to wolves and sheep.
My puppy love first crush was a born psychopath. His nanny, from babyhood on, told me to stay away from him. His nanny was a superstitious, uneducated woman from the backcountry of Mexico. She described him as being born of the devil. In a way, she was right. He’s very high on the psychopathy checklist and has lived a ruinous, criminal, parasitic life. My parents recognized that there was a serious problem with his personality and went to great lengths to get me away from him. With their help, I was able to dodge a bullet. Thanks folks!
I have noticed over my life that an education in our western sense doesn't necessarily make people wise. Thank goodness you could avoid that.
@Gen TH-cam No credit to me, I was dragged away kicking and screaming. But way back then, “normal” kids did tend to listen to authority. I’m only wise in hindsight and I am very blessed that my parents were paying close attention.
why you felt the need to put down the nanny? was it really that important to your story that she was mexican, uneducated or came from the countryside? She helped you and this is how you apprecciate her help. Gross. She should've kept her mouth shut
Good on you for accepting the nanny's and parent's advice. Psychopaths can be extremely charming and enjoy trapping thier victims in this way.
@@anneamus He was, and still is, very charming. And he’s still very bad news for everyone with whom he comes in contact.
Fantastic! However, we do not need psychopathic CEOs, business is psychopathic (without conscience), we need leaders with a conscience and morality for balance.
Except the types you mention aren't rewarded in the current system....
@@kateoneal4215 arguably arent rewarded in any possible system
Also there are new theories that say a better CEO choice is an HSP-a highly sensitive person-with high degrees of empathy.
In some cases, they are indeed rewarded. My current boss was a fairly low-level manager when I joined this company in 2015. She was promoted fairly frequently--one year she was promoted three times!--until she became our Executive Director, which she has been for at least 5 years now. It's easily the best job I've ever had, and the reason I'm in exactly the same role I was hired for 8 years ago is that I've chosen not to apply for the many promotions I've been offered. Perhaps if more neueotypical people (which I am not) than psychopaths were to apply for advancement, we might see a better balance in personality types at leadership levels.
If you need a leader, that is a you problem.
Thank you. This is a brilliant explanation. On the street we say, “ psychopaths are born, and sociopaths are made”. Not entirely accurate but the gist fits. “ psychopaths, plan, and sociopaths react.” Dr. Ramani (clinical psychologist specializing in narcissism) said, “ in a quarrel, a sociopath lashes out while the psychopath puts you in a dumpster a month later”.
@@Kieranos is another name for a Jeffrey Dahlmer type. Thanks for exposing your psychopathic mind.
Brilliant.
Not only sociopaths that lash out people can have high fight/flight drive through PTSD/cptsd & lash out too
@@sarahlamb2333 More than likely a Borderline. In my particular case, I left him stunned…fight, flight or FREEZE, just by saying, “I don’t know what’s wrong with you…whether you’re gay, bi, or a pedophile.” I had just pointed out to him all he said in the usual bits and pieces such types impulsively spit out from their fractured minds, over an extended period of time.
Despite that he twice denied being sexually abused as a child, I put all the pieces together like the puzzle they are, and then laid it on him. He froze. Then I got in my car and drove away.
A week later, I brought him some info on childhood sexual abuse, but unlike before, his gate, with a No Trespassing sign on it, was closed. I could tell he was home, given there was smoke coming out of his chimney. But he wouldn’t respond to my texts to come out and talk to me. So I left.
Then I put together more clues, and finally realized what he was. While Trump’s preference is to sexually assault women, this guy preferred children. I heard a detective say most pedophiles are males who were sexually abused as children.
Do you know the stats on childhood sexual abuse before they age of 15? I’ve heard it’s 1 in 3 females and 1 in 6 males, although one highly respected Trauma Counselor, Diane Langberg, PhD, (here on YT and has a website,) thinks it may be as high as 1 in 5 males, given the fact that males are less likely to talk about it. Because they have been shamed and blamed, and makes are societally trained to “be a man,” “take it like a man,” and “just cowboy up.” They are expected to be strong.
Don’t try you put your ideas on me since I’ve said this man gave me a case of PTSD. That happens a lot in situations of domestic abuse. While he was emotionally and financially abusing me, he was having ongoing physical altercations with his son when I wasn’t around. Twice he called me to call 911. He used me in Triangulation more than once. The local Sheriffs were already aware of him, since apparently it had be going on long before I met him. But he would always blame his son, of course. Shifting Blame and Irresponsibility are traits of a Psychopath. He would say his son was just like his father, as if being an abuser had skipped a generation, always playing Mr. Innocent.
I went straight up No Contact after that. I did not pursue him in a Civil Suit for the thousands he got by means of Fraud. I knew he would twist things around and turn the courtroom into a circus of deception.
This man now owns an AR-15, according to a photo I saw on FB a while back. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that his end could very well be the result of a mass shooting he carried out.
Oh yeah…one more thing. His mother was sued for Fraud by her brother in an inheritance grab of an $800K, piece of cattle land…mineral rights included. The whole family were Midwest cattle ranchers, and there’s a whole lot oil drilling in the Midwest. Just ask G.W. Bush.
She got their elderly father to sign a Transfer of Deed Upon Death to transfer the property their father planned to go to this brother, thus changing it to her ownership. Three days later, their father was dead.
The brother (my Psycho’s uncle), suspected his sister of murdering their father. She was their father’s Caregiver, and had been a Registered Nurse and had the knowledge to carry that out.
And it was my Psycho’s father who had sexually abused him…in the back seat of a car…the only place he told me he experienced Claustrophobia. Incest, I’ve since learned, is more common in rural areas.
The sheer number of childhood sexual abuse should alarm everyone. And in most cases, it’s not “Stranger Danger.” The victim knows the Perp. It’s either a family member or a close friend of the family…someone the child thought they could trust.
Childhood sexual abuse makes for all kind of crazy, especially among males. Fortunately, of those 1 in 6, most DO NOT become pedophiles, but that is surely how they’re made. The victim becomes the perpetrator…..the predator to the innocent an unsuspecting.
Thank you, Marcel!!! That's an important distinction and I hadn't heard it before.
Imagine having a teacher like this for every subject in school from the moment you start going to school.
Imagine not knowing anyone that isn't a psychopath
Or a parent
"Those who 'can't'-- teach, and those who can't 'teach,' teach gym"
One could be easily brainwashed into buying his propaganda.
Yup worked with one of these
A psychopath/sociopath will have no problem learning how to be empathetic. They would love that workshop. Empathy is the number 1 way to earn someone’s trust. It’ll be another tool in their belt.
Getting a psychopath/sociopath to truly FEEL empathy is nearly impossible if not working with a child.
maybe with some substances
Right. Learning how to fake/imitate empathy.
Sociopath is a condition, a psychological one that humans get through abuse, it can be fixed, the empathy center still exists, thats what prisons are for, ....
While psychopathy is a human with genetically different mind, it is incurable, a totally different brain structure in the areas crucial for the most human emotion of all, which technically doesn't make them a human, ...
So you made a mistake, ...
Just look at this world …. Psychopaths are in charge. Why do we sit back and not stand up to put an end to this evil????
Maybe, there's nothing we can do... study the lives of every single person or humanist (in theory not practice) whoever tried to stand up
Not enough people will do that. Then you get labeled something you don’t want to be labeled. It’s unfortunate the world is blind to it.
Because we're not starving. They have been taken good care of that. I bet you that if we could not feed our children there would be an uprising in no time. We're spoilt in the Western society. I've been waiting forever for some kind of revolution. But I do not start it myself either.
People won't stand up for it as we fear that nobody will stand with us and/or we fear being ostracized . . . or in extreme cases we fear harm coming to our loved ones or ourselves.
@@babiesandbuddies how does the average person not see what is going on?
I'd settle for just a mandatory fMRI so the psychopaths and semipsychopaths can be kept away from politics. Why is it that prison psychiatrists are so often fooled by subjects who are released with a "clean bill of psychological health" and then almost immediately commit multiple homicides?
Maybe cuz some of them look like little kids and it's an easy class more or less wouldn't know ssi rules are strange I'm disabled and stupid and can't be trusted? Something yeah life is stupid it just is always has been rules for thee but not fir me should be on the dollar bill .
Very obvious yet no one us willing to do exactly that.
They will defend against "ableism"
Narcissistic personality disorder, especially malignant, is not just being full of yourself. They are extremely dangerous and can kill in one way or another. I know.
The book that changed my beliefs was Kent Kiehl's The Psychopath Whisperer. The book is based on hundreds of brain scans that were done on psychopaths in the prison system. They all had abnormalities in their brains which he describes. I dealt with hundreds of anti-social personalities in the jail/prison system during my career. I enjoyed working with them when I began to understand that they do not experience certain feelings. There was no sense in talking with them about issues with guilt, remorse, empathy etc. What I talked with them about was consequences of their actions. Very, very few were 'hard core' psychopaths, those devoid of all feelings, with black souls who felt nothing; the ones who had a lizard's brain.They scared me.
A narcissist is a monster too. Many CEOs and business cultures are actually narcissistic and not exactly psychopathic. A narcissist is a person without remorse, just like psychopaths!
Especially spiritual communities
Be wary of Gurus
Every psychopath has narcissistic traits, but not every narcissist is a psychopath
What happens when you come across a remorseful person that also turns out to be a narcissist?
Especially a loved one...
They feel remorse that's why they blame others to free themselves of it.
This is the most informative thing I’ve ever seen on TH-cam…an excellent and accessible exploration of a very complex topic. Thank you so much!!
I’m the victim of a psychopath.. someone should scan my brain.
I agree 100% with the 37 experts when it comes to Trump. However, there is something seriously screwy about this guy's moral compass. Some of his claims are outright false. Psychopaths cannot be treated or reformed: they have a hardware problem rather than a software problem. They're certainly not "sick" and deserving of sympathy or lenient sentencing. Their victims and a world full of potential victims are the ones deserving of compassion and consideration. We need SANE laws that protect the majority from dangerous behavior. Period. "Defective brains" do not deserve a free pass.
Beware of the motives of journalists who make false claims against Trump. He has been set up with falsehoods several times.
My manager is a psychopath, she made many victims at my job, but the boss keep her there because they think she is good for the company, I’m her latest victim, as a cancer survivor she made my life a real life hell, she put me to do the worst and most physical work, I have reported her to the HR I believe they talked to her she stopped for while, but her lack of empathy and remorse makes her back in verbal abuse and making fun of my complaint, I’m thinking to file a complaint with the EEOC but Im scared of her 😢😢😢
Makes plans to leave ASAP
I’m very sorry you had to go through this. I am VERY happy you are a cancer survivor though! 😊
Look for a new job.. It’s not worth it. Cockroaches are everywhere but you can choose to not deal with them.
Good luck! ❤
So much of what he says about Trump can clearly noted about the majority of politicians, both in the U.S. and many other countries. With few exceptions now, especially in Western-alligned countries, which have been and are predatory in nature.
Of course, and leaders have generally often psychopathic traits to a lesser or greater degree, it seems.
I agree, many politicians are narcissistic and some are psychopaths. Nonetheless, Trump is the world’s most famous and obvious case of #narcissism
Trump is the obvious archetype of a narcissistic politician "type."
Furthermore, I would argue that Putin is one of the more obvious presentations of the Dark Triad (Machiavellianism Psychopathy Narcissism) set of traits. The reason he is more obvious is that he got rid of all government institutions that can check his powers.
In contrast to Russia, the "West" has stronger institutions that are better able to stop or contain (and sometimes minimize or cover-up) the psychopathic desires and actions of its leaders.
Professor Choi,I love your graphics! The whole subject is profoundly important. There's a reason we think of psychopaths as inhuman. It gives me hope just knowing our natural tendency is towards empathy. Most of us are truly lovable.
Psychopaths are sharks in the ocean of life. Cold-brained and lacking in some very important human traits.
There is such a thing as selective psychopathy. Those of the in-group are deemed deserving and those in the out-group are not
F human traits
People use the word “ human “ as an excuse for their actions.
@@nerobaal6655 I've got high hopes for AI. If it has a self preservation instinct it's going to have to start by saving humanity from itself. It's already working hard towards that end. For example, this video was suggested to us by an algorithm!
How you feel about psychopaths is likely to be influenced by what sort of interactions you have had with them.
Most of the time we won't notice them, unless we are their target but then the experience will surely be negative
"I want to apologize to the psychopaths in the audience..." xD
You've got my vote.
That incredibly naive, malignantly PC comment reveals Choi's incompetence. Or at least lack of common sense.
Fantastic lecture, I would love to see a follow up with everything that "we didn't have time for"
Psychopaths suffer with boredom and emptiness. The severe boredom is a different kind of suffering than what the rest of us feel
My ex declared that no one in the family was allowed to say the words "I'm bored", or there would be hard manual labor to follow. They suffer from perpetual boredom and manipulate others to entertain themselves, it would seem to me from observation. Haven't even watched the video yet.
@@recoveringsoul755my grandfather told me when I was a kid that he needs us to watch him have sex with people other than my grandma go to nude beach with him, otherwise he would beat us up.
Maybe thats karma for all the trouble they cause.
I have trouble buying the proposition that it's all in their brains. I'm sure the differences exist, but think it may be effect, not cause.
A neurobiological explanation comes extremely close to annihilating all concepts of good and evil. I'm not a gnostic. I understand quite well that we are corporeal. But I can't accept that these people have no volition. My hunch is that because the brain in infancy and toddlerhood is at its most plastic, the psychopath's extremely early commitment to evil causes neuroplastic change which accommodates their choice.
And?
Why isn't this taught in public schools? Because parents fear children who gain knowledge of their parents issues.
Not parents but people in power.
@@missachol24 both
This video is extremely helpful in resolving the issues of gaslighting in family court. I am the Exec Dir of a nonprofit designed to help provide our judges and decision makers with resources to help understand the psychopathy of parents who deceive and harm their children and former spouses. Our family court system has traditionally only focused on law, psychology and accounting. My goal is to get science (forensics, neuroscience, medicine (especially as to trauma) along with the original 3 to help fix our family courts. THANK YOU so much!
Sadly Socialists/Communists RUN PSYCHOLOGY
Strange, I quite like Trumps policies.
He calls a spade a spade.
If his Ego makes him want to be the most loved president, maybe that could be....
A GREAT THING!?
The knowledge about this kind of human disability in our common society has the power to save the humanity. I thank you so much for your strength to enlighten the general public. Durch Aufklärung erreichen wir den Wandel durch Vernunft und bereiten so den Weg in die Moderne.
Politicians and CEO's i would hardly called disabled.
I mean they are doing quite fine i would say and they are doing way better than the average citizen.
Are these people disabled?
Nope! These politicians and CEO's just know how to play the system far better than us normies.
Not to mention they are okay doing thing's that most people myself included would not be comfortable doing.
Just because they are not natured like you or me does not mean they are disabled.
What happens to children’s brains when they watch horror/violence/gore, & then ruminate about it?
Psychopaths are made by violence, exposure to gore at an early age and witnessing murderous Acts which they can easily see on any social media site many TV shows and of course video games.
Well, you know, christian kids regularly see a crucified man-God in a really cruel way, yet they became more empathic with age, while psychopaths gradually desensitise in very same situations.
Thank you... Of all the material on this subject out there... This is the most comprehensive and analytical. Itis out together well.
Covid certainly exposed the poor education systems across the world. The majority of people I came across despite 12 years of schooling and many with tertiary education, failed to understand viruses, pandemics and vaccines. Our primary, secondary and tertiary education systems really need to change radically. Thank your Dr Choi for an intense, well grounded and entertaining session.
toxic graphene oxide in geoengineering)chemtrails//masks//PCR Tests//Saline Solution etc. by LaQuinta Columna !!
time to Unschool//Not Public School Indoctrination//time to go back to free range children/free range parents//Not New Age Helicopter Parents promotd bt The New Age Cult !!!
I grew up in a poor rural community, but I learned everything about vaccines, epidemics, quarantines and how they all should work, in health class in elementary school. None of this should be a mystery to anyone with a sixth grade edication
@@Geoplanetjane Yes, indeed, I was generalizing. It depends on so many factors though. The country and their education system, the particular school, how well it functions etc, and the comprehension of each child, let alone the retention of the information.
What's really missing from the current system of education is critical thinking. It's all rote memorization.
Lol "I would never call someone a paychopath without personally evaluating them... But let me give this speech about psychopaths and constantly mention him."
Biggest question why focus Trump? Biden? Clinton’s?Obama? Let’s look at the entirety
Im so glad we've found this. If the cause can be found and corrected.,.it will change the world.
This is not a very serious video. Not much neuro-science, or any kind of real science for that matter. And frankly it annoys me that what seems to be going on is not science helping us understand psychopaths in politics, but a scientist pretending that his political opinions are science.
Ironically, Choi starts with an egregious example of such an abuse, a book charging that Barry Goldwater was a psychopath, a claim which indeed seems not only scientifically irresponsible, but also frankly silly. Ironically, there's a much better case for Goldwater's opponent in the presidential race of 1964, Lyndon Johnson. Johnson was widely regarded as being paranoid and highly manipulative. Odd that Choi doesn't comment on this.
Choi lacks the courage to say so directly, but insinuates quite strongly, that Donald Trump is a psychopath, and, with a wink, invites the listener to draw their own conclusion. For this, he adduces such scientifically solid evidence as anecdotal testimony by a disgruntled relative and Trump's exaggerating how many people were at his inauguration. He ignores the fact that Trump does not fit most of the criteria he cites, at least to any greater degree than the typical politician. A highly energetic man, who has been successful in multiple long term enterprises like running a real estate empire, a TV show, books, etc, and has numerous loyal friends, etc., doesn't fit the pattern at all. Trump is a very brash, and polarizing figure, likely quite high in disagreeableness. It might be interesting if someone with a more serious commitment to science would comment on the traits that actually make Trump unusual.
For that matter, perhaps someone with insight could comment on why some scientists go out of their way to foster a public persona, going as far in some cases as giving TED talks with dubious content. As a a deeply committed scientist, I find it odd that, while there are mountains of fascinating real science so high that it could take a lifetime to expound, a person such as Choi would squander the public's attention on rubbish.
In any case, I didn't really come here to find out Choi's political views, or even his opinion about Donald Trump.
Someone interested specifically in Trump might want to watch Jordan Peterson's comments in
th-cam.com/video/eYwu14Qrimw/w-d-xo.html
Jordan Peterson: "Meghan Markle GRATES On Me!" - TH-cam
I’ve learnt so much from this video Tysm it was a great explanation on how they work and why they do what they do great job🙌👍
40:44 a slap on the wrist? Our parents need training in gentle parenting. Remove the cookie jar from their reach with a firm “No.”
When the tantrum is done, then you can discuss appropriate times for cookies and appropriate ways of getting them.
The issue is: since they have no consciousness they actually ACTION upon their desires while "good people/conscious" usually DONT act but rather weigh the consequences... Therefore a lot more bad ones move to the top. ACTION is key.
Before hearing this video, l was in a discussion with acquaintances about some horrific actions by some people and they were talking about punishment that usually included death of some kind. I said I wouldn't kill them and got astonished looks. I clarified my thoughts and stated " I would leave them alive but curse them with extreme empathy for the rest of their lives. This video seems to support that idea.
I wish we could put some sort of psychological evaluation process in place so when people reach adulthood it’s already known
Well, I’ve studied Trump since before he took office, and this is a succession of disorders I came up with.
Reactive Attachment Disorder (age of 2) - per Mary Trump, he didn’t bond with his mother, due to her difficult pregnancy with the next child, so she could not care for Donald. Also, Fred Trump told his wife she was to raise the girls, while he would raise the boys. Another disaster in the making.
ADHD (adolescent years) the reason for his long time use of Amphetamines, including cocaine. Such drugs are “uppers” which would take him up and over the top, to bring him back down to relative normalcy. Had a friend many years ago who did this with here ADHD son.
Conduct Disorder (early teens) the reason he was thrown into the Military Academy, in an attempt to straighten him out. His older sister, the Judge, referred to it as a Reform School. It only made him worse. See video “Trump vs. Biden 2020,” which includes references to their childhoods.
Conduct Disorder is the precursor diagnosis required in the assessment of Psychopathy. Mental Health Experts are gagged by the Goldwater Rule, which states they cannot diagnose someone from afar. To do so means they’d lose their membership in the APA. But since I’m not a member of their community, I am free to offer my opinion. (Once a Paralegal, always a researcher, and I’ve done over 20,000 hours of research on Mental Disorders, zeroing in one the 10 Personality Disorders. I’ve also worked in both a Facility for the Mentally Disordered as well as a local County Jail, where such people often land first, prior to any formal diagnosis. Our prisons are full of Sociopaths and Psychopaths, the difference of which has been debated for decades - the nurture vs nature debate.
But besides Psychopathy, Trump also has Narcissistic Personality Disorder in co-morbidity. And here’s what I find puzzling. Trump has all kinds of Phobias, per Michael Cohen, who has recited them quite often in his Podcast, “Mea Culpa.” I could be wrong about this, but that tells me Trump also has Paranoid Personality Disorder. That’s at odds with Psychopathy, which states they have no fear.
Still, having spent 18 months in close proximity to a man just like Trump, he had this same succession of disorders, and the same three adult disorders. He even told me, “I’m above the law.” It’s a pattern. The similarities were remarkable. I just got done watching a Netflix documentary on Prison Inmates. Without exception, every one of them told of their child abuse.
Also on Netflix there are several Trump-related documentaries. Besides those, I highly recommend to others, which clearly apply to him….
Inside the Criminal Mind (2 of the 4 examples used are Crime Lords and Cult Leaders)
How To Become a Tyrant. (Six examples, and the tactics they use to become Dictators)
Other references here on YT….
Bandy Lee - psychiatrist
Justin A. Frank - psychoanalyst
David Cay Johnston - investigative journalist, tax expert and Trump historian
Ruth Ben-Ghiat - expert on Dictators
So to me, Trump is a classic case of Psychopathy, and I am not bound to the gag rule, so I’m free to express my opinion. Study the line-up I’ve posited here so you know what to expect at any age.
Hope that helps.
Contrary to the ridiculous reply left earlier (& resourced by Netflix, of ALL things, may as well have used "60 Minutes" or "PBS"- and Michael Cohen, who is a 8x convicted felonious perjurer/liar & Trump's sister who is also a known liar & opportunist), children CANNOT be diagnosed with psychiatric/psychological disorders as their age prohibits this. Recently, therapists have begun slapping labels on kids, much to the chagrin of their professional ethics & standards, just like ppl stepping out of their roles & diagnosing those whom they've never met; however, this is becoming more & more common.
The "MedicaI lndustriaI CompIex", much more powerful than the MiIitary lndustriaI Compex (& responsible for more mayhem & more lives- over 250k ppl die every year due to medical errors, alone, & while over 35% of Americans are uninsured or underinsured, their lobbyists, our tax funded agencies, and ALL other of their combined income rakes in *OVER $7 TRILLION/YEAR,* which is 100x more than the Military lndustriaI CompIex). There are NOW studies released from 15 years ago which prove that SSRI's not only do NOT help depression AT ALL, but are downright harmful & especially so for anyone *under age the 25.* This is something no one is allowed to look at in regard to mass kiIIngs (w/FlREARMS) which EVERY ONE of them had in common! Something also never permitted exposed is the cost of all this gender medical care & ALL of them are on SSRl's, including the latest kiIIers.
Another comprehensive study showed that more than half of all chiIdren now receiving care for GlD (Gender ldentity Disorder) have mothers suffering from either BPD or NPD, compared to the control group (under 6%)(pub. in jaacap- Journal for the Amer. Acad. of ChiId And Adolescent Psychiatry- Mar 1991). So, it seems as though we should be looking at the mothers more closely than solely at these chiIdren & trying to evaluate them. As the mom of four myself, I know this is hard, but it's true. And those pretending to be able to analyze someone from sound bites, stories from siblings or lawyers, and/or any or way, should be met with extreme caution & skepticism. Everyone & ANYONE who reaches a pinnacle of success not attained by many has done so through hard work & tenacity. It is true that SOME have achieved that status bc of cruelty & taking advantage of others, but to assume that ALL have is ignorant & just plain dumb. Like the other man replying, I too have worked with prisoners for DECADES & can say with certainty that those *_caught_* do NOT have the same psychological make up as those we're speaking of. Lastly, I find it odd that they omit Joe Biden, who has a 50 year record of lying to everyone about everything: His grades in school, visiting Nelson Mandela, marching with MLK, driving trucks/buses, writing the worst legislation ever in Congress (the 1994 crime bill), etc.
That’s nowhere near as simple as it sounds on the surface.
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Thank you very much for this talk. We need science. Hopefully in the future we can help, both, psychopaths, their possible victims and anybody who has psychiatric issues. Science will ensure happiness for all :)
Likely, you'll look back on this comment in 10 years, and chuckle.
Outstanding lecture thank you so much!
You had suggested it was an improvement in evolution but as a survivor I don’t agree. I have truly evolved from my experiences. Where he will always remain a predator. If children can learn how to communicate more effectively to get their needs met and how to identify predatory behaviors.. we could do a lot of prevention
I have Major Depressive Disorder as well as Borderline Personality, probably triggered by a traumatic brain injury (TBI) when I was 15 years old, though I showed symptoms of both conditions before the injury. I've heard of TMS, though before today it hasn't been a priority to learn more about it. I do believe that there's a rhyme and reason to the Universe; I clicked on this video because of my political acquaintances and my association with psychopaths/ narcissists though the reference to TMS rang some bells in my brain too. Thank you for this presentation! I will try to contact you more privately soon.
Very interesting. Thank you for making this information available.
A major problem with Psychology is that it's professionals confuse individual identity with the illnesses individuals have. We don't say someone with cancer is a "Cancer" we say they have cancer and we try to help them recover. People are not their mental illnesses. Some diagnostic labels used are also questionable and do not seem to have any basis in objective science. There are definitely people who are stark raving mad, and they are pretty easy to identify without a battery of psyche tests. Beyond that there may be more subtle psychological illnesses, but the science of psychology is too immature to be trusted when it comes to the kinds of diagnostic procedures commonly used to classify large numbers of people in our population.
I find it very objectionable to associate whole groups of people, i.e., CEOs and politicians with terms that are dehumanizing (monsters). Professionals in this field should steer entirely clear of such rhetoric, not merely because it is applied inappropriate, but because it supports a pattern of misuse of the procedures and resulting diagnostic procedures of the entire discipline.
it is somewhat unclear whether many/most diagnoses (aside from psychosis) are describing problems that aren't simply general adjustment issues that more or less universal in the population, particularly during certain periods of acute personal difficulty. It is not merely that there is a range or scale of severity, but that there is not much real science behind the diagnostic labels. A test may detect this or that psychological problem, but if the problem is really just a more or less verbal description of a pattern of behavior that some anonymous authority has decided is a mental disorder, based perhaps on a consensus of professional opinion, which is not based on any scientific work whatsoever. This seems an apt description of most of the material in the manuals describing psychiatric disorders.
Again, I am not trying to say that people do not suffer from mental illnesses, they obviously do. But IMHO we do not know how to approach these issues objectively and there is, within this profession, an extraordinary, constant quantity of loose talk that involves confident assertions about things that are simply not established in any rigorous way.
Even the so called 'hard sciences' do not regard their theories as proven factual objective truth. Science sticks to theories that explain an important forms, patterns of change, etc., of the natural world. The most established theories are those that have important, disprovable predicates. I don't think there is anything in psychological diagnostics that can meet even the minimal standards of rigorous science. The mind is really one of the final frontiers of scientific research. We have no widely agreed upon theory of how consciousness works, or even what it is.
It may be somewhat more reasonable to refer to someone as a murderer or as a serial killer, as this is simply conventional use of language to associate people with notorious, anti-social activity they engaged in. But a discipline that has the ambition to be part of the treatment of persons suffering from illnesses should be more careful about any sort of discussion that can be a pretext for discriminating against or dehumanizing persons or groups of persons.
Historically psychiatric diagnostics have tended to be biased to reflect social, not scientific consensus, and often used to pass judgement of people whose views or behavior is broadly unacceptable to society, for largely arbitrary, context related reasons, and not based on anything more rigorous than that. Take for example the diagnosis of homosexuality, which was categorized as a mental disorder until fairly recently.
Brain structure & function is really definitive of "you." Much more so than, say, breast cancer. And we're talking about people (psychopaths) who have demonstrated themselves to often be dangerous. Your essay is muddying the waters. I'm tired of the carnage caused by the Sociopathic crowd. They need to be dealt with. Yes, we do need much better science. But your meandering, flighty ideas only allow the Sociopaths slack to do what they do.
I have to save this comment, it is the best summary of this matter.
You're probably a sociopath. Or trauma has dulled your sense.
one of the finest presentation on the topic!!thanks amanda and dr octavio and the team😊😊
Psychopathy for some is essentially a huge advantage and can be used for good or evil the capacity not to feel certain emotions does not mean they can’t understand them and therefore base decision rationally rather then emotionally
Yes it is an advantage b/c the so-called regular, normal joe shmos can be easily duped... I guess
Really. Name some psychopaths who did a bunch of good in their lives. Because what I've seen is a WHOLE lot of BAD that comes from people who have various sociopathic qualities. Including full-blown psychopathy.
The scary part for me is that a person with a phd in neuroscience is presenting psychopathy cases with not very well hidden entitlement, superiority and low key passive aggressive humor. While I'm happy to see so much talk on the subject and professionals educating, I'm also not surprised now at all why everyone is walking around throwing diagnoses at random. Have you tried to watch this discussion on your own since it was held?
Imagine how good this could've been if it wasnt run by political shilling
I'd like to see more of a balance - throw in a few psychopaths from the other side of the political aisle. I can think of a few along with their close family members.
I agree with you. This guy is shilling for democrats /progressives. Not one political example is from the Democrats side. Yet we know Hillary, Biden, Nuland, Blinken, Fauci, George Soros and so many others in the Democrats /neocons/neoliberals are likely either narcissists or psychopaths. There are narcissists and psychopaths in both sides of the so-called "political divide". Generally the world is under the rule of psychopaths and narcissists.
@@lisagreen7778 agree. Glad I am not the only one to critique his bias.
Use Biden
17:00+ "How morally outraged are you" I am super-outraged motivated & ready to cooperate if cooperation exists & validate witness & proof with others & prevent & act on these types of crimes
Great lecture, very helpful. Thank you!
Why should we judge Trump based on his going to the movies. You cannot prove intent. Perhaps he needed a distraction from his pain. After all he was raised according to his sister, to be a strong man, not tearful.
Question: Does the drug taking change the areas that are already weak in a psychopath? In other wards can a regular drug user become a psychopath due to damage from drug use?
or unbecome
I already felt like I was covered in bugs as soon as I saw a person laying in the grass, so I wasn't surprised to see a spider.
Given that early infant nurturance can affect the amygdala, and given that different cultures have policies and programs supporting early nurturance and infant attachment, can some cultures be more or less vulnerable to having psychopaths?
True crime channels often remark on geographical crime clusters. More research!
When I was a child I was so shocked by the behavior of some boys who pulled out the legs of some bugs for fun. This experience hurt me so much. But to be honest there are so many movies out there that normal people can watch without true emotions, scenes that really freak me out. They say it is only a movie. I know it is a movie but it reminds me of the people who really suffer from violence and I just can not watch it for fun. It also makes me wonder why disrespectful or cruel behavior towards women is so widely accepted in society especially in sexual contexts. Even the women themselves seem to be willing to be treated badly, maybe to „please“ the guys? I am often confused by the acceptance of violence in people without a disorder like that. With someone like Trump, ist is not that disturbing if he behaves like he does, (though it makes us angry of course) because it is not surprising, but with people who are very morally sensible, if they regularly watch murder in TV Shows just for fun, I get really confused.
You can be both empathic and yet bravely watch cruelty with being open to it. Yes, its reality.
It happens and will happen .
We need to either win over or live with trauma.
I watch cruelty scenes with empathy, but they do not pain me topoint of impossibility to watch further. The make movie more deep.
Even if its heartbreaking sometimes. Its also have some cathartic quality, some freeing quality. Whatever can happen, it either kills us of makes us stronger. Live can overcome even that.
I read somewhere that sociopaths did have guilt but were liable to impulsively kill someone, whereas psychopaths were totally cold and would strategically plan out a murder and not feel any guilt. I'm so confused at why I have learned this and now I hear different explanations. Now that you have defined the DSMs definition of antisocial personality disorder being split into cold and calpus psychopaths and then others who have propensity for violent behaviour - that sounds more like what I think I learned was the difference between sociopath and psychopath. I'm going to have to try and unlearn wjst I learned.
I think you'll find that these terms haven't been well defined in the past. There are reasons why Psychology/Psychiatry hasn't gotten narcissism/sociopathy/psychopathy right. One reason is incompetence. Another is fear. Another might be that n/s/p was less common in the past. Yet another reason might be that it was in the n/s/p crowd's interest NOT to bring an explanation to light. 30-50 years ago, "narcissism" was not commonly known, let alone well understood.
I see you are stating that moral counciousness is related to pre frontal cortex, right. To my mind - moral - it is only one aspect of consciousness as a whole.
Right, it's spiritual
Truely appreciate this 🙏 Thank you for this informative discussion and your time
To be honest, it was likely the largest audience to witness it because so many watched it online around the world in horror.
Not that I aprove Donald Trump in any way, yet I find it quite unfair that so much focus was put on Donald Trump when Junior Bush as well as theas other president figure s in the past had much more brutal behaviour s and cruel decision-making...pres
Trump is a current public figure whose behavior the majority of people have observed.
@@christinakuczora4862 "Observed" in our highly- biased media landscape! I'm not a Trump supporter, but I know propaganda when it's steadily crammed into the body politic while omitting the necessary information for informed discourse.
Once you dismiss the idea of being objective in favor of left wing ideology everything after that point in conversation is a colossal waste
It takes a psychopath to know a psychopath...
Kill one to save five ... The problem is not the immediacy of that moment. The problem arises when situations create more abstraction and uncertainty. Those with authority can easily use this principle to sacrifice others to dangers which only exist in their mind.
Hey! I saw this when it was released, and it was a part in it where you mentioned some good treatment to depression, I don't know if it's been removed efter because I couldn't find it now. Could you just tell me what the name for that depression treatment? (great video and very in formative tho!)
They're not all monsters
Dr. Choi would agree with you - the lecture arguably focuses on that point. Give it a watch - you might not be disappointed.
@@ScienceonTapORWA I don't care for trump and the politics, but he seems more like a NARC to me. Yes, my comment stays the same. They're not all monsters.
@@ScienceonTapORWA Yes
I’m not defending anyone or making excuses as everyone makes their own choices in life. One thing I’ve definitely notice though during my 30 year career as an executive assistant is that people in so called lower level positions greatly simplify what it takes to run any kind of large organization. Decisions at an executive level are extremely difficult to make. The level of complexity and the amount of heat a CEO has to take is not for the faint hearted. Not to mention the kind of hours they have to put in and sacrifices that are necessary to be made in their private lives.
I don't mean to be flip but all they do is make phone calls and sit at a desk all day. Honestly I'm not impressed. I find the people who do the actual work from the upper level down to the entry-level much more deserving of respect for their efforts. I fully admit, my direct experience is limited. I've never sat in the in the big chair of any large firm nor do I have any wish to. But I honestly do not believe it would be that hard.
It's the legions of people underneath that CEO or whoever they are that gets all the jobs done, the CEO just gets to reap the benefit and take the credit. And for doing what? He might be the face of the company, but unless he's worked his way up from the bottom he doesn't know a damn thing about what they do or what it takes to get it done. I'm afraid this is a pretty common truism in life.
If you feel you've worked for good people worthy of respect I think that's great. I'm sincerely glad you feel so, but as someone from the outside, of course I can't vouch for that. I tend to see all big business and the people who rise to the top and such a self-serving if not toxic environment, in a very negative light.
I must say, if it's a large company, they bring all of that pressure on themselves now don't they? By wanting to be more ruthless, by seeing greed as a good thing and constantly wanting to expand, constantly wanting to screw over more workers, to exploit new markets, to drive more sales no matter what the cost?? To constantly seek expansion, instead of being satisfied with the often very impressive current profit level and market share, is this not true??
It won't come as any surprise to you that as a hard Leftist, I am extremely hostile and feel judgmental towards all big business, so I'll be frank about my bias for clarity's sake. I do think most big business is absolute trash and it prizes trash people and a trash philosophy of "win at all costs".
That is my operating perspective and so that informs my judgment anytime I try to impartially casually evaluate and judge these so-called "great" CEOs and business "leaders". I find the cult of the belief in the "great business leader" in Western culture still quite common.
You see them due to your personal connection as wise people trying to balance many plates on a rod and make wise calls. Perhaps in a some cases this is true. As an outsider I see see them differently. I'm not saying there is no place for business or the for-profit sector at all, but in my gathered judgement, ALL bigger business corporate structures are inherently toxic, the only variable being one of degree. When a 'maximum profit at all costs' is your only operating value, it is inevitable that those who lose out sooner or later are the workers, local or overseas communities, localized environmental/ecological hazards, and/or the consumers themselves.
@@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999 I tend to agree but I really want to believe that good useful psychopaths exist. We need to normalize mental health screening! More research...
@@jamiemetcalfe7945 perhaps. Yeah perhaps. I'm not sure if they can be or if it's worth it to have someone around who has no moral/ethical limitations whatsoever, or extremely few, but I'm open to suggestions.
What about those who have some to deep empathy but only to "their own"? They have no empathy for "them." In fact they often have contempt or even hatred for "them." And in fact some people who seem to finally find empathy by joining a hate group.
Yeah. I think you're talking about tribalism. Not extending empathy to "the other".
Most people are like tgat. Its a spectrum, where only 2% of people are able to feel same empathy for total strangers as they feel for themselves. Also, 2% are cold blooded psychopaths. Others are somewhere in the middle.
They feel for their circle and do not give an actual damn about other families , coworkers or strangers, except for what implied by law of by etiquette. Its "normal people with ego and some boundaries".
Very insightful video; Definitely will be showing people I know about this channel. Amazing upload, Especially at 1:36:23 I never knew that!
But testosterone doesn't explain young children with psychopathic tendencies (callous, unemotional)
I really enjoyed this. Excellent presentation of complex information in a very accessible manner. Thank you.
Fabulous lecture. Don’t worry about lectures being too long. It would be great, in my opinion, if they went twice as long. Have you considered joining with Public Radio as an umbrella under which to operate?
Had to turn it off
Do you think maybe Andrea Yates husband is a psychopath since he kept his mentally unwell wife pregnant while she stayed home isolated to homeschool etc? Theres more to this sad story.
Great question. He was a seriously creepy guy.
It seems like psychopathy and narcissism overlap in many areas. I dated one of these and I didn't realize it at the time. I thought I was going crazy. He'd blame me for his own shortcomings. It was always me. He lied constantly, pathologically. Very promiscuous. I'd be accused of crazy things. I seen past a lot of these defects of character because I was lonely and I fell in love with him. Hes back in jail again and it's been a few months. We are done. I'll never go back again. Even though I have days when i miss him for some reason, I wish I'd have never met him. Good riddance, I'm free! 🎉🙂
they are very rarely in jail... They play the system... They make the system... Lucky for you!!
While I will agree that dangerous and or incurable people should be separated from society in some fashion, there's no correlation between extended sentences of confinement and better behavior. I agree we need some form of separation for those who pose a genuine threat but other than that I do not think people should be in prison longer than one year for non-extreme offenses.
We got psychopaths at every level of our political structure who get a sadistic pleasure out of ruining many thousands of lives a year unjustly. While no doubt violent predators must be kept behind bars somewhere, the vast majority of people do not belong in prison and do not deserve long sentences, or in many cases even a short one.
Mass incarceration is just an excuse for political sociopaths to oppress and harm those they consider inferior or are hateful towards, namely minority communities and the poor.
The large majority of our prisons should be closed and the people inside liberated and freed from this ongoing crime against humanity and sent back home to restart their lives once and for all.
Mass incarceration is the greatest domestic injustice of our time. It's an economic and racial Jim Crow 2.0.
I enjoyed this very much thank you!
As a nurse student (with a special interest in psychiatry, neurology and psychology), we are taught that prevention of illnesses is most likely way more imortant than treating an "occuring" illness that is already at it's "worst" (if you will). It is absolutely preventable for psychopaths for instance, to do bad things.
I read a forum where aspd I dividuals describe their childhood.
One of them out of pure curiosity puf his little sister in a microwave and watched her screaming and burned with same curiosity and amusment.
Then, parents came took her out with burns on the skin, were very afraid and angry, but he felt nothing dramatic about what he did . His family was healthy and living, nothing bad was ever done to him.
Seems it'd not that preventable.
Only thing has ever made me want to harm a person is them talking with their mouth full
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Late 1970 & early 1980’s my mom took my sister & I to parties at Dr. Hare’s property. I remember lots of other wild kids & playing flash light tag outside. The house was billowing with pot smoke & incense, lots of herringbone tweed, corduroy overalls, bell bottoms…
I think that maybe some of them feel a lot of guilt. They just can't process it past their ego. They will either try to rationalize and excuse their bad behaviour and dysfunctional thinking, or to try and misplace it on to other people, maybe.
You're thinking of narcissists. Apparently all psychopaths are narcissists, but not all narcissists are psychopaths.
Sam vaknin can explain this pretty well
There is no guilt in psychopathy
We often suppose that other people possess our own qualities. Ie projection
I was looking forward to a sensible, grown up insight into the neurology of these ppl..instead it turned out to be a video on how dangerous Trump is..fvcking hell! Eye rolls intensifies..and thats from somebody whos certainly no fan of Trump.
What would a survey of extreme sports enthusiasts score on the psychopathy test?
Unless it took place in federal prison, likely nothing.
Psychopathy is a constellation, a low-functioning amygdala does not make a psychopath
I kept thinking that. I think he addressed it when he spoke of different levels of psychopathy.
I saw a video about covid in China. A guard in China hit a woman up to a bus that they closed. The bus was filled with people who got covid, and they just closed them there. If they wanted to leave they hit them until they stopped trying to escape. I don't want to learn from China's president, he is cruel in so many ways.
Starts at about 6:00
How alarming that you stated the Insanity defense may change in favor of psychopaths. that would be horrible for society Psychopaths know the difference between wrong or right they just don't care and that is NOT insanity.
💯 I had the same reaction. 😳 The presenter voiced several weird, alarming opinions with regard to psychopaths. These are indeed monsters, not "sick" people.
COMPLETELY OBSESSED WITH DUMPING ON TRUMP.
GREAT Information sprinkled with political naivete so grating I finally did give up.
For those of us that cannot help but see the psychopathy of Trump, because it is like a gigantic, neon flashing sign, it's an example that is hard to deny. The truth hurts, I'm sure that's why you had to give up - cognitive dissonance.
The presenter merely used Trump as an example as Trump is a current, well known figure whose behavior most folks have observed over the last several years especially.
I imagine many coldly calculating sociopaths would think we were the aberrant ones and they were just doing what was rational, useful or amusing to them in the moment and we are the soft, weak, and useless ones who have their value system inverted.
Pick a side.
@@presence5426 I can't pick between the sides of Twix they're both delicious
@@presence5426 of Twix? God it's impossible they're both so good.
They do. One primary psychopath admitted that he definitely though until his late 30's, that people all are like him, just acting , because of some rules of begaviour.
He was amazed to discover that people do feel fear and emotional pain for real.
De Sade books is all about that type of people. Read Justine and Julliette books oh his.
He and his heroes believe that some people are born naturally to be Masters. Others are born to be slaves. Masters do not feel shame, remorse, fear. They also are oj with being enslaved by stronger Masters or form mutually beneficial groups.
They pretend they follow morals, but I side they do not give a damn about all rules expt pleasure, freedom and natural science.
They can kill their parents for pleasure or torture them, if they like it.
They believe that other people are weak and support their weakness by their egoistic attitude, so they deserved to be punished for egoistic ability to form attachments.
Masters are above everything, they do not suffer from guilt and never attached emotionally to their victims.
They do not think weak, soft people with big desires and attachments deserve what they hungry for.
However a lot is psychopaths will not want to go to jail and lose their freedom or comforts
Higher functioning psychopaths who become CEOs, cops, attorneys, surgeons and those who are able to be employed in regular jobs will not want to go to jail...but they're still psychopaths who will struggle against their own impulses to break the law because of their extreme entitlement and god-complex.
6:50 !
They're in the workplace...it's a real problem..
Fascinating presentation. Tha k you!
Thank you very much for this intriguing and elaborative lecture🙏.
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Not all psychopaths are monsters 😡
What was the title of your PhD thesis, Octavio?
Almost every trait of psychology can be described in negative terms in the modern world but could equally be described as positive traits in times past; or maybe the fact I think that makes me a psychopath 🤔
No, you are right. Think how the European invaders treated the Indians and blacks
@@tesmith47 cool isn’t it
In violent times, psychopathy is an asset for the individual and their genetic legacy. Possibly even a net benefit to society sometimes.
There are people who he have experience of love and guilt but lack fear.
They can be happy together in calm times and tough at violent times, with a goal to establish safety for others.
Psychopaths tend to make chaos even in cslmer times.
And while they can survive harsh times, they do not internally benefit tj constru t something ling term and stable.
Full range of emotions makes life more interesting regardless of time.
Limited range , well, limits.
You can't perfectly imitate something you only learned from others who had it firsthand but never felt going out of you naturally with already set rules and characteristics.
Does he mean cognitive empathy when he is discussing teaching empathy to individuals with psychopathy ? Because I was under the impression that affective empathy was unavailable to a person with psychopathy. I was confused at this point in the lecture.