8:09 This is actually one of the main concepts that Anne Rice’s vampires struggle with. They constantly ask themselves whether they are creatures of Satan or creatures of God (and are serving God through Satan) or if God does not exist and this revelation can be freeing or damning for them (because what’s the point then). Because Anne Rice herself struggled a lot with religion, Lestat, who is her special boi, goes on a long spiritual journey in the later books.
Anne Rice basically revolutionized Vampires because most modern vampires that aren't Dracula coded are inspired by her vampires. Twilight and VD are watered down/ straightwashed Anne Rice. I'm excited to see what you think after watching episode 5 because I feel like that one really shifts perspectives for people, particularly people who haven't read the books.
There’s an interesting theory that vampires and zombies tend to swap popularity during times of economic downturn, with vampires representing excess/wealth/opulence (think blood-sucking capitalists) and zombies representing revenge of the horde/the masses. That corresponds to the kind of allegories they tend to be better for-vampires tend to be better allegories for individual suffering and unrequited longing (in part because they’re the most nearly “human” monster), but they’re limited by how “stuck” they are in time/cut off from humanity in the ways you both described, and because by their nature, they live off others so can’t transcend their own isolation or their self-interest. Whereas zombies can stand in for a wide range of fears and/or possibilities about losing one’s individuality, or tearing society down (when that society sucks, that can be cathartic for the viewer-think zombies terrorizing the suburbs). So maybe they both win, they just tend to resonate and gain popularity in different contexts 😊
As you will see in Season 3 (not a spoiler), Lestat’s impulsive streak comes from so much being out of his control- or his agency being taken away all the way through his turning.
Love what you said about vampires and their inability to move past their trauma. I feel like people often think that their immortality means they have all the time in the world to heal and grow, but here it's like a part of their "curse" as vampires is the fact that they're kinda locked in their mental state from when they were tuned and it's a herculean effort for them to be able to heal. It's probably much easier to endure time living the same way. It's why Lestat and Louis are the way that they are and the same is likely true for Armand and the rest. Your discussion on what supernatural creature dominated pop culture is fascinating! I think the only things you were missing were ghosts and witches! Those are the real reigning champs lol But within the choices you presented I'd for sure say vampires. I think it goes beyond the quantity of content and is more about the PRESENCE and iconicness. Vampires are like...the coolest and have always been seen and treated as such. And impact of Interview with the Vampire (90s), Twilight, The Vampire Diaries, True Blood and the 50 million remakes of Dracula/Nosferatu cannot be overstated imo
okay but real zombies influence is relatively recent and their peak was def like the first few seasons of TWD even with TLOU coming out recently, overall and specially in the last 40 years vampires win by a landslide, I don't think a decade has passed without some sort of vampire content coming out literally since like Dracula-nosferatu times, and esp in the last 4 decades, there's always some sort of tv show, movie or book series focusing around them, so much so that they even overlapped, true blood/TVD, the twilight books/ the vampire academy
She's right Zombies seem to always be in pop culture going as far back as the movie you were trying to reference Night of the Living Dead starring Duane Jones. Resident Evil films had a strong hold on horror during the 2000's and into the early 2010's. George A Romero's Zombie franchise has been going since the 70's so we haven't really had and era since maybe the 50's without Zombie movies.
This episode, I really felt for Claudia & Louis. Both of them essentially being trapped into something neither expected to happen. Seemed like they freed themselves from one owner to running into the arms of another. I believe that in pop culture, Holywood has put the "others" lore in subsets to keep them all relevant. I think its more so tiers of popularity & impact. 1st tier: Vampires & Witches 2nd tier: Zombies & Aliens/Sci-Fi 3rd tier: Werewolves & Paranormal/Demonic Activity
Chile so much happened this year episode Daniel getting stalked about the Talamasca Illuminati suit man Santiago the “no pain” guy just being my favorite character The damn love triangle between Armand, Lestat, & Luis Claudia done got jumped into the gang 😂
While Lestât has religious trauma, Armand is the opposite, he has always found comfort in his religion, it’s in his backstory from the books but since it might be a spoiler, just know for Armand belief in God makes sense
1. It's zombies because, as Esther said they've been a constant feature in media. I would add that they also have global appeal. Think of the recent zombie hype in Korean media eg. Train to Busan, All of Us Are Dead, Kingdom 2. Vampires: Twilight, that's all I have to say 3. Aliens were big in the '90s and early 2000s 4. Werewolves have always been side characters. Teen Wolf focused on so many random supernatural and sci-fi creatures that it didn't feel like a show about werewolves.
OK we grew up with Vampires, think about it, there's Count Von Count, on Sesame Street, and Count Chocula cereal, One of the first silent films that are still watched today, is Nosferatu 1922, Dracula and the multiple on-screen adaptations, Vampires have created many Iconic leading roles for Characters of Color, such as Blackula, Vampire in Brooklin, the Blade movies, and Queen of the Damned with Aaliyah (the movie itself was awful but Aaliyah is fantastic). Also Buffy the Vampire Slayer did the whole movie, TV, and spin-off series thing. And they did the whole lgbtq representation. There are Too many other movies and series I could name these are just some of the ones leading up to the 2000s's lol
I'm so glad you guys, especially Ester, discussed the idea group identity and collectivism in marginilized communities. A lot of people who watch the show watch it from a very American Individualism POV (which makes total sense) and so don't ever see any issue with Louis acting outside the coven and don't really get why the coven is so pressed about it. The coven's rules aren't all good and the coven certainly isn't all good, but coming from a cultural background where that sense of community is really important And that idea that if someone from your community does something it is going to have a material impact on you - and therefor any non-conformation is threatening is very real - it felt really validating to hear it expressed so eloquently! I don't think Louis is wrong for his actions, but I think a lot of people aren't willing to engage with the fact that at least some of the coven's concerns are real. Like living in a big city as concentrated as they are, if humans catch on, its over for them. And they are so much more conspicuous as a group so the precautions of hunting and disposing of bodies together, of keeping curfew, etc. makes a lot of sense in that context.
See, I understand you and their POV regarding the coven wanting Louis not to be an outsider, but I'm more on Louis' side here. It's probably because I see the similarities between the coven and Christians, they want you to join their group and they think if you don't join you aren't doing life/vemparism the right way. And they want their rules, that should only apply to those who joined their group/religion, to apply to how everyone lives. I gave Christianity as an example because that's the religion that I have personal history with.
@@AshleySamM That makes a lot of sense! I didn't grow up Christian and hadn't thought about it that way. I think its so cool hearing everyone's different interpretations of the show!
I think vampires had a great stretch but I believe that pretty consistent pop culture thing is aliens not zombies. There’s always an alien movie coming out, shows,and there’s actual real life science behind studying the cosmos and whether or not aliens are out there. I think out of all those things aliens are the most consistent in pop culture so much so that we don’t even think about it.
I feel like Zombies are closely tied to a post apocalyptic world which helps makes it the most consistent theme. Also, Zombies tend to have better presentation in the way those stories explore the human condition, morality and the monster that is just human as well as zombie.
As a vampire lover, it's zombies. Zombies can be supernatural or sci-fi, and that's not to mention all other genres that it can cross-cut. Thanks to Frankenstein, zombies are an excellent way to interrogate medicine, human experimentation, love, the supernatural (necromancy) and humanity in general. There's also more zombie games that exist. The order is Zombies, aliens, vampires, then werewolves.
Vampires have dominated media since the 90s, think of big budget movies like Van Helsing, Blade, Dracula Untold, Twilight, etc. The influence of vampires is that Dracula is a villain of Captain America, vampires are linked to werewolves (Underworld/Van Helsing), and even had a vampire zombie movie (I Am Legend).
I think you can't have a convo about what thing wins because some are humanity vs the hoard and some the perspective of the monster. We don't have THE zombie or THE alien. Also true blood and Buffy and Dracula himself
Also, what ultimately kills a vampire and makes them either unalive themselves or makes them go crazy is the fact that they cannot move with time and truly evolve WITH the world. This is also part of what is said about making a child vampire- they will NEVER match their age. Or ever be able to survive independently in society. They will never be fully strong either (though depending on who makes them and their age and therefore gifts, they may be quite strong). But the passage of time really changes vampires. This is why all the super old vampires want Louis- he makes “contact” with the time and retains his humanity in many ways. Also, around religion, vampires, specifically older vampires have seen religions and social structures rise and fall. So that understanding affects their relationship to the world around them.
in terms of pop culture dominance, i'm aware of huge zombie and vampire festivals, i have not heard of any werewolf festivals, and i assume there must be big alien festivals but i still haven't heard of them, so in my mind it comes down to zombies vs vampires ; the iconic fictional zombie is much newer than the iconic fictional vampire, so vampires have something like a hundred-year lead in any discussion about cultural presence - i think zombie aesthetics appeal to folks with more of a punk proletariat lean, whereas vampires appeal to folks with a more gothic aristocratic lean ~ zombies have enjoyed three and a half distinguishable eras : the slow era, the quick era, and the romanticizable era * vampires have had at least five distinguishable eras : the classic era, the revolutionary era, the romanticized era, the diversity era, and the post-romanticized era ... zombie media overwhelmingly focused on them as preternatural disasters, while vampires have almost always been personalities, which allows them to be more varied ● i think there is a vampire archetype for every kind of person ( which is why vampire the masquerade works the way it does ), which is not true for zombie enthusiasts ○ zombies are here to stay but vampires have a deeply entrenched presence in pop culture that is only rivaled by slashers •
There is something biological that affects kids that become vampires because while they can accumulate experience their brains never develop from the time they were turned, so Claudia will always be kind of reckless, make bad decisions and be over emotional because of when she was turned
Witch’s are always in pop culture too. I don’t think they win compared to the two but they are always around. In horror movies for sure. I think American Horror Story was a pop culture moment. I have noticed witch’s on tik tok making a big impact especially things like witch core, and spiritually. I would say the Zombie video game “The Last of Us” really was a pop culture moment it laps has its own show now.
No One: Me: *singing * Crazy Stewpid Podcaaaast! Love this show! I would say Vampires win unless you count the "Whit Walkters" in Game of Thrones as zombies, in which case Zombies win.
I love your views as always and love hearing your theories! What I find most hilarious about covens is their communal living situation. Because I absolutely understand - and agree - that it makes sense for vampires to stick so close together and to be wary of someone who is doing their own thing. But at the same time they don't need to be living on top of each other, it's giving theatre kids at university which is hilarious considering how old they all are. As for religion the books have a lot of focus on religion, and we see in the show as well people having very different relationships to it. I can get the thought-process that vampirism might turn you to atheism (as happened with Lestat), but I can also understand clinging even harder to searching for a higher meaning when you have so much time to look for it. Or as in the case of Armand religion can provide a kind of structure that can be comforting. As for who has won the wars - I'd say aliens. There's been a lot of vampire content too but not enough for my tastes. That's why so many people are claiming vampires are "back" now with iwtv and the upcoming Jordan Peele movie. While you'd never see anyone claim aliens are "back" when there's at least one big movie/tv show featuring aliens each year.
Alien’s definitely dominate. What do y’all think Star Trek and Star Wars are? Lmao both of those franchises are HUGE and have been around for decades. Alien’s definitely win.
21:14 how did yall forget abt witches/ magic practicing individuals!!?????! Witches will never not be on top in pop culture. They definitely top zombies. Just my opinion LOL 🤭
I say Vampires. Vampires will always win. Mostly due to Anne Rice's depiction of vampires versus those previous 1974 (i.e. Nosferatu), because she solidified vampire's glamour. Essentially, she made Vampire's sexy 😂. And as a reader or viewer, most of us project the story onto ourselves. And who doesn't want to be a sexy, powerful being 😊? Albeit immortal, which I understand can be unappealing, but to be a hot and strong human-looking creature? Yeah, sign me up 😁! Zombies aren't really known to be sexy and able to still somewhat live within society. Strong, but no attractive. Werewolves would be number two, mainly because they aren't able to fully control when they change, and it seems to come with pain often. Aliens, well, anything can be an alien, Superman is an alien. ..so that's a bit of a quandary 😂. But, yeah, Vampires for the win, because it's easier to sell, because would want to be a vampire over zombies. Because zombies are constantly attacked and we don't want to be attacked. We may get some fill from being the human protector and defeater of zombies, but, that's not a strong a thing with most of us 😁. As for Armand praying to Allah. It, I feel, was a ruse to fool Daniel in season one. I say this because, in this season two episode three, Armand and his children are referring to God and Satan. Which would be Christian, not Muslim. When Armand was Rashid, I've mostly wiped those behaviors that Daniel viewed from whom Armand is, because, I think, it was mostly to manipulate Daniel's thought 😭. And Armand happening to appear to have the physical appearance of one (i.e. the racial term Nicky used) made it a tool to use for Daniel to more easily believe that he was of a certain faith. Hence, Daniel asking him the questions from Armand not precisely doing the correct religious practices. You both have a great week 😁! I love listening to your discussions 😊.
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8:09 This is actually one of the main concepts that Anne Rice’s vampires struggle with. They constantly ask themselves whether they are creatures of Satan or creatures of God (and are serving God through Satan) or if God does not exist and this revelation can be freeing or damning for them (because what’s the point then). Because Anne Rice herself struggled a lot with religion, Lestat, who is her special boi, goes on a long spiritual journey in the later books.
Anne Rice basically revolutionized Vampires because most modern vampires that aren't Dracula coded are inspired by her vampires. Twilight and VD are watered down/ straightwashed Anne Rice. I'm excited to see what you think after watching episode 5 because I feel like that one really shifts perspectives for people, particularly people who haven't read the books.
There’s an interesting theory that vampires and zombies tend to swap popularity during times of economic downturn, with vampires representing excess/wealth/opulence (think blood-sucking capitalists) and zombies representing revenge of the horde/the masses.
That corresponds to the kind of allegories they tend to be better for-vampires tend to be better allegories for individual suffering and unrequited longing (in part because they’re the most nearly “human” monster), but they’re limited by how “stuck” they are in time/cut off from humanity in the ways you both described, and because by their nature, they live off others so can’t transcend their own isolation or their self-interest. Whereas zombies can stand in for a wide range of fears and/or possibilities about losing one’s individuality, or tearing society down (when that society sucks, that can be cathartic for the viewer-think zombies terrorizing the suburbs).
So maybe they both win, they just tend to resonate and gain popularity in different contexts 😊
As you will see in Season 3 (not a spoiler), Lestat’s impulsive streak comes from so much being out of his control- or his agency being taken away all the way through his turning.
Love what you said about vampires and their inability to move past their trauma. I feel like people often think that their immortality means they have all the time in the world to heal and grow, but here it's like a part of their "curse" as vampires is the fact that they're kinda locked in their mental state from when they were tuned and it's a herculean effort for them to be able to heal. It's probably much easier to endure time living the same way. It's why Lestat and Louis are the way that they are and the same is likely true for Armand and the rest.
Your discussion on what supernatural creature dominated pop culture is fascinating! I think the only things you were missing were ghosts and witches! Those are the real reigning champs lol But within the choices you presented I'd for sure say vampires. I think it goes beyond the quantity of content and is more about the PRESENCE and iconicness. Vampires are like...the coolest and have always been seen and treated as such. And impact of Interview with the Vampire (90s), Twilight, The Vampire Diaries, True Blood and the 50 million remakes of Dracula/Nosferatu cannot be overstated imo
okay but real zombies influence is relatively recent and their peak was def like the first few seasons of TWD even with TLOU coming out recently, overall and specially in the last 40 years vampires win by a landslide, I don't think a decade has passed without some sort of vampire content coming out literally since like Dracula-nosferatu times, and esp in the last 4 decades, there's always some sort of tv show, movie or book series focusing around them, so much so that they even overlapped, true blood/TVD, the twilight books/ the vampire academy
She's right Zombies seem to always be in pop culture going as far back as the movie you were trying to reference Night of the Living Dead starring Duane Jones. Resident Evil films had a strong hold on horror during the 2000's and into the early 2010's. George A Romero's Zombie franchise has been going since the 70's so we haven't really had and era since maybe the 50's without Zombie movies.
This episode, I really felt for Claudia & Louis. Both of them essentially being trapped into something neither expected to happen. Seemed like they freed themselves from one owner to running into the arms of another.
I believe that in pop culture, Holywood has put the "others" lore in subsets to keep them all relevant. I think its more so tiers of popularity & impact.
1st tier: Vampires & Witches 2nd tier: Zombies & Aliens/Sci-Fi
3rd tier: Werewolves & Paranormal/Demonic Activity
Chile so much happened this year episode
Daniel getting stalked about the Talamasca Illuminati suit man
Santiago the “no pain” guy just being my favorite character
The damn love triangle between Armand, Lestat, & Luis
Claudia done got jumped into the gang 😂
While Lestât has religious trauma, Armand is the opposite, he has always found comfort in his religion, it’s in his backstory from the books but since it might be a spoiler, just know for Armand belief in God makes sense
1. It's zombies because, as Esther said they've been a constant feature in media. I would add that they also have global appeal. Think of the recent zombie hype in Korean media eg. Train to Busan, All of Us Are Dead, Kingdom
2. Vampires: Twilight, that's all I have to say
3. Aliens were big in the '90s and early 2000s
4. Werewolves have always been side characters. Teen Wolf focused on so many random supernatural and sci-fi creatures that it didn't feel like a show about werewolves.
OK we grew up with Vampires, think about it, there's Count Von Count, on Sesame Street, and Count Chocula cereal, One of the first silent films that are still watched today, is Nosferatu 1922, Dracula and the multiple on-screen adaptations, Vampires have created many Iconic leading roles for Characters of Color, such as Blackula, Vampire in Brooklin, the Blade movies, and Queen of the Damned with Aaliyah (the movie itself was awful but Aaliyah is fantastic). Also Buffy the Vampire Slayer did the whole movie, TV, and spin-off series thing. And they did the whole lgbtq representation. There are Too many other movies and series I could name these are just some of the ones leading up to the 2000s's lol
I'm so glad you guys, especially Ester, discussed the idea group identity and collectivism in marginilized communities. A lot of people who watch the show watch it from a very American Individualism POV (which makes total sense) and so don't ever see any issue with Louis acting outside the coven and don't really get why the coven is so pressed about it. The coven's rules aren't all good and the coven certainly isn't all good, but coming from a cultural background where that sense of community is really important And that idea that if someone from your community does something it is going to have a material impact on you - and therefor any non-conformation is threatening is very real - it felt really validating to hear it expressed so eloquently! I don't think Louis is wrong for his actions, but I think a lot of people aren't willing to engage with the fact that at least some of the coven's concerns are real. Like living in a big city as concentrated as they are, if humans catch on, its over for them. And they are so much more conspicuous as a group so the precautions of hunting and disposing of bodies together, of keeping curfew, etc. makes a lot of sense in that context.
See, I understand you and their POV regarding the coven wanting Louis not to be an outsider, but I'm more on Louis' side here. It's probably because I see the similarities between the coven and Christians, they want you to join their group and they think if you don't join you aren't doing life/vemparism the right way. And they want their rules, that should only apply to those who joined their group/religion, to apply to how everyone lives. I gave Christianity as an example because that's the religion that I have personal history with.
@@AshleySamM That makes a lot of sense! I didn't grow up Christian and hadn't thought about it that way. I think its so cool hearing everyone's different interpretations of the show!
Also, I just wanted to say, that I am obsessed with this podcast. Like I binge-watched all your IWTV episodes now I'm moving to The Acolyte then HOTD.
I really loved all your insights, especially about religious trauma and community vs individualism. Btw a lot of superheroes are aliens lol!
I think vampires had a great stretch but I believe that pretty consistent pop culture thing is aliens not zombies. There’s always an alien movie coming out, shows,and there’s actual real life science behind studying the cosmos and whether or not aliens are out there. I think out of all those things aliens are the most consistent in pop culture so much so that we don’t even think about it.
I feel like Zombies are closely tied to a post apocalyptic world which helps makes it the most consistent theme. Also, Zombies tend to have better presentation in the way those stories explore the human condition, morality and the monster that is just human as well as zombie.
As a vampire lover, it's zombies. Zombies can be supernatural or sci-fi, and that's not to mention all other genres that it can cross-cut. Thanks to Frankenstein, zombies are an excellent way to interrogate medicine, human experimentation, love, the supernatural (necromancy) and humanity in general. There's also more zombie games that exist.
The order is
Zombies, aliens, vampires, then werewolves.
Vampires and Witches are always my FAVE!!!
Vampires have dominated media since the 90s, think of big budget movies like Van Helsing, Blade, Dracula Untold, Twilight, etc. The influence of vampires is that Dracula is a villain of Captain America, vampires are linked to werewolves (Underworld/Van Helsing), and even had a vampire zombie movie (I Am Legend).
What about Star Trek and Star Wars? Those are aliens movies/ franchises and their bigger than all the ones you mentioned. Even Marvel is aliens
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I think you can't have a convo about what thing wins because some are humanity vs the hoard and some the perspective of the monster. We don't have THE zombie or THE alien. Also true blood and Buffy and Dracula himself
The real answer is...witches
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Also, what ultimately kills a vampire and makes them either unalive themselves or makes them go crazy is the fact that they cannot move with time and truly evolve WITH the world. This is also part of what is said about making a child vampire- they will NEVER match their age. Or ever be able to survive independently in society. They will never be fully strong either (though depending on who makes them and their age and therefore gifts, they may be quite strong). But the passage of time really changes vampires. This is why all the super old vampires want Louis- he makes “contact” with the time and retains his humanity in many ways. Also, around religion, vampires, specifically older vampires have seen religions and social structures rise and fall. So that understanding affects their relationship to the world around them.
in terms of pop culture dominance, i'm aware of huge zombie and vampire festivals, i have not heard of any werewolf festivals, and i assume there must be big alien festivals but i still haven't heard of them, so in my mind it comes down to zombies vs vampires ; the iconic fictional zombie is much newer than the iconic fictional vampire, so vampires have something like a hundred-year lead in any discussion about cultural presence - i think zombie aesthetics appeal to folks with more of a punk proletariat lean, whereas vampires appeal to folks with a more gothic aristocratic lean ~ zombies have enjoyed three and a half distinguishable eras : the slow era, the quick era, and the romanticizable era * vampires have had at least five distinguishable eras : the classic era, the revolutionary era, the romanticized era, the diversity era, and the post-romanticized era ... zombie media overwhelmingly focused on them as preternatural disasters, while vampires have almost always been personalities, which allows them to be more varied ● i think there is a vampire archetype for every kind of person ( which is why vampire the masquerade works the way it does ), which is not true for zombie enthusiasts ○ zombies are here to stay but vampires have a deeply entrenched presence in pop culture that is only rivaled by slashers •
There is something biological that affects kids that become vampires because while they can accumulate experience their brains never develop from the time they were turned, so Claudia will always be kind of reckless, make bad decisions and be over emotional because of when she was turned
Witch’s are always in pop culture too. I don’t think they win compared to the two but they are always around. In horror movies for sure. I think American Horror Story was a pop culture moment. I have noticed witch’s on tik tok making a big impact especially things like witch core, and spiritually. I would say the Zombie video game “The Last of Us” really was a pop culture moment it laps has its own show now.
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Me: *singing * Crazy Stewpid Podcaaaast! Love this show! I would say Vampires win unless you count the "Whit Walkters" in Game of Thrones as zombies, in which case Zombies win.
@@bbbianca8932 that’s a good point
I love your views as always and love hearing your theories! What I find most hilarious about covens is their communal living situation. Because I absolutely understand - and agree - that it makes sense for vampires to stick so close together and to be wary of someone who is doing their own thing. But at the same time they don't need to be living on top of each other, it's giving theatre kids at university which is hilarious considering how old they all are.
As for religion the books have a lot of focus on religion, and we see in the show as well people having very different relationships to it. I can get the thought-process that vampirism might turn you to atheism (as happened with Lestat), but I can also understand clinging even harder to searching for a higher meaning when you have so much time to look for it. Or as in the case of Armand religion can provide a kind of structure that can be comforting.
As for who has won the wars - I'd say aliens. There's been a lot of vampire content too but not enough for my tastes. That's why so many people are claiming vampires are "back" now with iwtv and the upcoming Jordan Peele movie. While you'd never see anyone claim aliens are "back" when there's at least one big movie/tv show featuring aliens each year.
Vampires/Zombies, Aliens, Witches, Werewolves
We are all waiting on the zombie apocalypse. We aren't all waiting on becoming vampires... 😂 I rest my case and delulu
Yall forgetting witches
you forgot about witches?...
Vampires Win.
Alien’s definitely dominate. What do y’all think Star Trek and Star Wars are? Lmao both of those franchises are HUGE and have been around for decades. Alien’s definitely win.
Night of the Living Dead is the Movie.
21:14 how did yall forget abt witches/ magic practicing individuals!!?????! Witches will never not be on top in pop culture. They definitely top zombies. Just my opinion LOL 🤭
I say Vampires.
Vampires will always win. Mostly due to Anne Rice's depiction of vampires versus those previous 1974 (i.e. Nosferatu), because she solidified vampire's glamour. Essentially, she made Vampire's sexy 😂. And as a reader or viewer, most of us project the story onto ourselves. And who doesn't want to be a sexy, powerful being 😊? Albeit immortal, which I understand can be unappealing, but to be a hot and strong human-looking creature? Yeah, sign me up 😁! Zombies aren't really known to be sexy and able to still somewhat live within society. Strong, but no attractive. Werewolves would be number two, mainly because they aren't able to fully control when they change, and it seems to come with pain often. Aliens, well, anything can be an alien, Superman is an alien. ..so that's a bit of a quandary 😂. But, yeah, Vampires for the win, because it's easier to sell, because would want to be a vampire over zombies. Because zombies are constantly attacked and we don't want to be attacked. We may get some fill from being the human protector and defeater of zombies, but, that's not a strong a thing with most of us 😁.
As for Armand praying to Allah. It, I feel, was a ruse to fool Daniel in season one. I say this because, in this season two episode three, Armand and his children are referring to God and Satan. Which would be Christian, not Muslim. When Armand was Rashid, I've mostly wiped those behaviors that Daniel viewed from whom Armand is, because, I think, it was mostly to manipulate Daniel's thought 😭. And Armand happening to appear to have the physical appearance of one (i.e. the racial term Nicky used) made it a tool to use for Daniel to more easily believe that he was of a certain faith. Hence, Daniel asking him the questions from Armand not precisely doing the correct religious practices.
You both have a great week 😁! I love listening to your discussions 😊.