Frisco 1630 pulls a 135 car Coal Train!

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  • On May 29,2016, Frisco 2-10-0 "Decapod" 1630 was used to remove a coal train from the Illinois Railroad Museum's main line. The coal train was stored at the museum over the winter but with the museum beginning to run trains again the cars needed to be moved. Two more coal trains were stored on the main line and were removed earlier in the spring. The museum used several of their diesels for power on the earlier movements but Frisco 1630 was selected to pull the final cut out of the museum. We first see 1630 arriving at Johnson Siding to pick up the cut. Then we see the locomotive pulling hard as it heads west. We see the train one last time at East Union where the 1630 would cut off and a diesel would arrange the cars to be handed over to the Union Pacific.

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  • @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695
    @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The fact that that locomotive is hauling 4000 tons is impressive

    • @overpoweredsteamproduction513
      @overpoweredsteamproduction513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As my uncle once said, “You’re GOD DAMN RIGHT”

    • @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
      @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To quote Blake Shelton: Hell Right!

    • @trainknut
      @trainknut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The hoppers are empty, the train is 2900 tons according to another video, but still an impressive haul considering this is around the same load they used to test 1218 - a 2-6-6-4 heavy articulated, and she seemed to be working pretty hard on her test runs.
      A testament to the raw pulling power of the 2-10-0 type, explaining why they were so popular on so many railroads for so long despite being technically made "obsolete" decades before diesels even entered the picture. PRR continued to use their I1sa's doing much the same work in the Appalachian mountains as late as 1958, and former Great Western number 90 spent her service years hauling beet trains of similar tonnage and length in the Colorado foothills, she was running up until Strasburg bought her in '67 if memory serves.

    • @Acela2163
      @Acela2163 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      135 empty bethgons comes to a little under 4100 tons by my estimate. Loaded would be way more.

    • @jordanalexander615
      @jordanalexander615 ปีที่แล้ว

      Standard loaded coal hoppers tip the scales at over a hundred tons a piece. Don't know where anyone got those low numbers for loaded. And yes these are obviously empty.

  • @alexheredia8569
    @alexheredia8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Doing exactly what the 2-10-0 Decapod type was originally intended for. To haul slow moving very heavy trains like this.

  • @RailPreserver2K
    @RailPreserver2K 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Proof that steam still gets the job done

    • @kaspervestergaard2383
      @kaspervestergaard2383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also fucks us over.

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Andy Well actually they did/do, just nowhere near as much as your everyday car drive to work.

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Andy Look, they're ancient relics that rely on burning coal or oil.
      That pumps Co2 into the atmosphere and causes respiratory issues for those exposed to it long enough without face masks.
      I love steam engines to death, but I'm not gonna pretend that just because they're works of art doesn't mean they're immune from affecting the environment, nor make it so electric trains aren't the way of the future.

    • @kyletroknya2419
      @kyletroknya2419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Steam locomotives need to be back on railroads soon

    • @skydive7054
      @skydive7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@generalhorse493 honestly, if steam is so powerful, why tf didn't they go with the Electro-Steam concept

  • @916fanatic1
    @916fanatic1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    For a Smaller loco she is very strong, over 43,000lbs of tractive effort.

    • @generalhorse493
      @generalhorse493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      One of the reasons the Russians ordered her built

  • @ces4399
    @ces4399 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Between the artfully modulated whistle, the chuffing and puffing of Frisco and the discernible whine of the coal car wheels, I felt my heart throbbing in sync with that old engine.

  • @wildcatindustries8030
    @wildcatindustries8030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This wasn’t much for 1630 to handle. It’s meant for freight drags, however. Todays cars do weigh more than freight cars back when this locomotive was in revenue service so still a good workout. It’s hard for a lot of railroads to justify working a locomotive hard like they were when they were new with spare parts lying around but it’s still great to see an old iron horse stretch their legs

  • @TrainTrackTrav
    @TrainTrackTrav 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "...let's give 'em a show, boys!"

    • @cnw6871
      @cnw6871  7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      One of my friends was in the cab of 1630. He told me that none of them heard that on the radio and they just blew the whistle not knowing the noise abatement had been suspended.

  • @fafnir242
    @fafnir242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Just imagine if they got the Y3 operationally restored. Could you imagine a Y3 on a 135-car coal train? I know it'll never happen, but man, I can dream...

  • @Railroadfan5383
    @Railroadfan5383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That was one freaking epic evening, great video Evan!

  • @arkansastrash320
    @arkansastrash320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Every ones is in awe,I am in awe tooI love to see steam pulling a heavy load.But the fact of the matter is, back when they built these fine locomotives they didn't build them to be lazy they built them to work hard and pull heavy loads.They depended on them for service and they delivered..More more love this.I want to see 1630 start off with that load.

  • @xavierjackson3796
    @xavierjackson3796 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The Steam train is like hold my beer

    • @aidanburns7797
      @aidanburns7797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Desils be like we are stronger togethor, steamies be like hold my beer

    • @majortom4300
      @majortom4300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Steam is better then any other train/tractor. GO STEAM!🚂🚂🚂🚂

    • @markbraley311
      @markbraley311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, trains don't drink beer like us humans.

    • @markbraley311
      @markbraley311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@majortom4300 I agree with you! Steam locomotives with tenders full of coal and water do rule.

    • @xavierjackson3796
      @xavierjackson3796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markbraley311 no shit

  • @lyndatilton6125
    @lyndatilton6125 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That was remarkable for an old steam locomotive to pull 135 cars.

  • @johnerikson7094
    @johnerikson7094 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    She sounded like 4449 with that whistle action!

    • @VirtualRailfanProductions
      @VirtualRailfanProductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Frisco 1630's whistle is a Hancock 3 Chime (4449 uses a Northern Pacific Version of the Hancock 3 Chime) and it is the same whistle that her sister Frisco 1522 used throughout her mainline excursion career between 1988 to 2002.

    • @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
      @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually the whistle sounded more like SP&S 700.

    • @nickmueller1139
      @nickmueller1139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No more like up 3985

  • @michaelmckenzie5232
    @michaelmckenzie5232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Good way to make some money for the museum, revenue work

    • @Charmaster04
      @Charmaster04 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When the Union Pacific asks to rent siding space for the winter to stash their excess hoppers, you strike while the iron is hot.

  • @2666loco
    @2666loco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the clear video. The whistle sounds like UP river boat whistles, but this engineer plays the whistle a lot better. I live in Springfield Mo, home shops for the Frisco.

  • @SadFairlie
    @SadFairlie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How the whistle was preformed is absolutely gorgeous to the ears! 1630 put on a spectacular show which I wish would happen once again.

  • @brandonharris7516
    @brandonharris7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Frisco my old friend

  • @trainsofwisconsin
    @trainsofwisconsin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1630 is an absolute beast

  • @tracynation239
    @tracynation239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An excellent video. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. ♡ T.E.N.

  • @09JDCTrainMan
    @09JDCTrainMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though they're empty, this is still an impressive sight, especially for a locomotive that size!

  • @joeschmitz5315
    @joeschmitz5315 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice catch! I can’t believe it could handle a 135 car coal train!

    • @PatrickLipsinic
      @PatrickLipsinic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They are empty cars. 30 tons per car compared to 130 tons loaded.

    • @blackbirdgaming8147
      @blackbirdgaming8147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pat L 4050 tons is nothing to laugh at though, especially for a loco of that size. It’s very impressive.

  • @jrcrawford4
    @jrcrawford4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My God, men, they didn't build these engines to be toys; they were meant to work. Yes, it's cool, but it's hardly astonishing. She's only doing exactly what she was built to do -- pull heavy freight at low speed. Nearly all her weight is on her drivers. I don't know the average tonnage of freight trains circa 1917, but with her tractive effort this is not a miracle. It's just a great illustration of the power of steam. Take a Doble steam car. Direct drive, it'll go 0-60 in about 15 seconds and it's nothing but torque. You don't even have a transmission. A Ford Model T can't top 40 mph and it takes about 40 seconds to do that! Alas, I rant in vain. Tomorrow I shall haul firewood in my Nissan Frontier with heated seats and digital music.

  • @fredlohmann1448
    @fredlohmann1448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    all i can say is wow amazing!

  • @michaelwood9922
    @michaelwood9922 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sounds like 4449 with that whistle and man she is great

  • @r.k2865
    @r.k2865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just look at how black that smoke is. You can tell she's working hard

  • @JoeyLovesTrains
    @JoeyLovesTrains ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:58 wish that sight was more common in the US

  • @scenariomckinney
    @scenariomckinney 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And a show they gave!!!!

  • @labhunter1
    @labhunter1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Where was it taking the cars to? Awesome vid by the way.

  • @dwkcamman611
    @dwkcamman611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply awesome!

  • @nickmueller1139
    @nickmueller1139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This proves steam trains aren't useless

  • @brandonharris7516
    @brandonharris7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been there

  • @michaellindsay6735
    @michaellindsay6735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful

  • @jacksalvin364
    @jacksalvin364 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1630 was pulling 135 empty coal cars tender first.

    • @cefxsd40m-29
      @cefxsd40m-29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Still impressive.

    • @blackbirdgaming8147
      @blackbirdgaming8147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CarlWh3Z3R You get used to his comments after a while, he does this shit all the time.

  • @s10ondubs
    @s10ondubs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What happened to Frisco 4003 it’s At the trolley Museum in Arkansas

  • @angelicknight2882
    @angelicknight2882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think I just had a heart attack!!!

  • @brianfalzon6739
    @brianfalzon6739 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1630's whistle does sound like 4449

    • @hildaibrahim6916
      @hildaibrahim6916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      brian falzon what the chime of the wistle

    • @duncanjackson2332
      @duncanjackson2332 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      brian falzon ii

    • @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos
      @stuartadamsrailfanningvideos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds more like SP&S 700's whistle.

    • @LycomingRailfan
      @LycomingRailfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its a hancock 3 chime same as many bigger locomotive’s including 4449 alot of railroads used the same whistles, but tuned them just slightly so you could tell the roads apart, and they were different in thier own right

  • @viktordubowskii695
    @viktordubowskii695 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She is doing a beautiful job, and under catanery wire.

  • @RavennaRailfan4070
    @RavennaRailfan4070 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For a 2-10-0 she’s pretty tough stuff, classic steam power right here! What whistle is 1630 wearing in this video?

  • @nightlightabcd
    @nightlightabcd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot to mention that the coal cars were empty!

    • @chadschrum1306
      @chadschrum1306 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nightlightabcd so that’s still a lot

  • @aidanburns7797
    @aidanburns7797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hold up a decapod hauling 135 coal cars

    • @alexheredia8569
      @alexheredia8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2-10-0's were built specifically for strong pulling power and very high tractive effort. It's doing what it was intended for.

    • @blackbirdgaming8147
      @blackbirdgaming8147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexheredia8569 This one wasn’t. It was designed for service overseas in Russia, where the track was bad and maximum axle loading needed to be low.

    • @rickygarrett6508
      @rickygarrett6508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackbirdgaming8147 I thought this was a baldwin standard with 56" drivers?

    • @rickygarrett6508
      @rickygarrett6508 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blackbirdgaming8147 nvm I was mistaken

    • @ericemmons3040
      @ericemmons3040 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rickygarrett6508Since this engine was originally meant for service in Russia, along with about 1200 other colleagues, it was/is known as a Russian Decapod. Originally built to 5-foot gauge.

  • @olawunmifadipe7842
    @olawunmifadipe7842 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1225'S BELL?

  • @thisisblasphemy8061
    @thisisblasphemy8061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If only british railways could remake steam locos more

    • @TheBlueShark
      @TheBlueShark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      they are fine the way they are, British steam is better at speed, and American steam is better at power

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheBlueShark Yeah, the land area of the whole UK is a little smaller than Oregon, so we didn't need massively long trains requiring super-powerful locomotives. Most British trains during the steam era were under a thousand tons or so, and UK railways are nearly all within 1000ft of sea level so we don't get the massive gradients you find in a lot of the US, either.

    • @azaabazha
      @azaabazha 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheBlueSharkyou say this when American steam locomotives went the same general speeds as British steam locomotives in service weighing and pulling a shit ton more.

  • @monsterdemolitionman1235
    @monsterdemolitionman1235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    look at that 2-8-0 go

  • @bnsf8610
    @bnsf8610 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any locomotive can pull this many cars empty with no grade. If this train was loaded then i would be impressed.

    • @ericemmons3040
      @ericemmons3040 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't matter whether the cars are empty or loaded; what matters is the total weight of the train and whether the locomotive has the starting tractive effort to move the train.

  • @overpoweredsteamproduction513
    @overpoweredsteamproduction513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Strasburg 90 is overrated, 1630 is where it’s at

    • @TheBlueShark
      @TheBlueShark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol

    • @ericemmons3040
      @ericemmons3040 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are both nice locomotives. . .

  • @brycewakefield6565
    @brycewakefield6565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is it pulling backwards should it go forward but slowly?

    • @MackeyBigBoy4014
      @MackeyBigBoy4014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There is no turntable on campus, and it is not allowed to go on the streetcar line to change direction.

  • @vincentberkan605
    @vincentberkan605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why were coal trains being stored on museum property?

    • @ericemmons3040
      @ericemmons3040 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The museum earns money by storing cars that the major railroad nearby (UP? BNSF? I would have to look it up) doesn't need at the time and/or doesn't have room for.

  • @bowservlogs8216
    @bowservlogs8216 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video!!!

  • @andrewstrainstuff1773
    @andrewstrainstuff1773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was it loaded? I doubt it

    • @benmullins2443
      @benmullins2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were empty coal cars in storage at the museum due to coal transport shortages at the time

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They're empties being taken out of storage. But 135 empties is still a 4000-ton train, which isn't to be sniffed at.

  • @angmoxley
    @angmoxley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was on the train before

    • @eoinpkav152
      @eoinpkav152 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Am I supposed to believe you were on a freight train

  • @nickelplateroad7655
    @nickelplateroad7655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BUT HOOOOOWWWWW!?!?!?

  • @TJusnow
    @TJusnow 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice!!!!

  • @littlepastelkitten
    @littlepastelkitten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who needs double heading when you have steam

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, you're gonna need to double/triple/more-head it if you want to pull 135 _loaded_ coal cars, or pull the empties up a hill.