@@jeprnnetietythat is a CRAZY comparison pls 💀 yeah felix isn’t a soprano so it would be super hard for him to sing in the original key but illit girls aren’t baritones. They’re just weak vocalists, that song isn’t “out of range” for the average soprano. People are misusing the “it’s out of their range” excuse so much now.
I want to support girls, imagine you are debuting first time at young age - lots of stress, nervous surrounding, fears, etc. Don't be so evil, support each other and help each other.
Wtf is this logic? We can't even say anything about their TERRIBLE "Singing" anymore? Look at Baemon Or Unis most of the members can ACTUALLY sing unlike Illit.
@@Swiftie105Maybe you don’t get what the words “singing live” means. *Every* k-pop group doesn’t ALWAYS sing well. Vocal training? Give them a break. Illit is already doing all they can, and knowing how much they blew up as a new popular k-pop group, they deserve all of the support they get. Them signing live is no different. Plus, bgm and a little bit of soundtrack in the bg make a huge difference. Don’t hate on them if you can’t sing, stfu.
@@scarthebugi don’t like how much hate illit is getting but be fking fr. they should’ve been trained before they debuted especially in vocals. also it’s their job as a idol to have good vocal skills. it ain’t our job.
@@kpopcecethey do have good vocals, even moka and wonhee but Hybe just chose this cute concept that none of the members can sing well in but at least Minju and yunah are slaying while Iroha is improving. Moka and wonhee are also improving cause they are singing live more but I just wish they got vocals in their range. Then no one would’ve said anything.
Yunah and Minju are the only ones maintaining the vocals in the group. It’s funny how Yunah is the oldest and Minju is one of the youngest and they are the best at vocals.
@@hna_j57 When I mean one of the youngest and oldest I meant in the group. I corrected my sentence before to how it is now since I made a mistake saying that Minju is youngest.
@@IreneRedvelvet-js6sg Lying is fun until ur proven wrong.If really Hybe didn't paid then why does Baemon automatically lost their other 1000 points? Where did it when? Ur brain? Ur mind? Or u stole it? The points cannot automatically losses if there's no culprits behind it?And I admit Magnetic is a good song but making a song also includes live vocals and abt having a stable vocals, Yunah n Minju is carrying the whole group rn. Have u seen Baemon singing Sheesh live?Ahyeon even did a high note live while dancing to Sheesh so that means they really deserved the awards.
@@IreneRedvelvet-js6sg And also,it's spelled "Sheesh" not "SESH" n why r u typing in capital letters? R u that mad Sheesh is winning over Magnetic?N at least if u wanna roast anyone make sure u learn spelling n grammar so they doesn't have to waste their time trying to correct u lmao
I’m not a ILL-IT hater I actually am a Stan but like I agree that most of the members should practice their vocals.But the fact they won over BABYMONSTER is very surprising..
Ikr. Hybe needs to pay serious attention on Illit's vocals. Even if there songs and music is the best, they need to sing while dancing live. Their vocals need generous training. YG is keen on Baemon's every feild. Be it music or dance or live vocals. They slay them all. Baemon deserved it.
For everyone who is confused that they won over babymonster, kiss of life and other groups, it's popularity, charts, album sales that count not talent, sadly
@@StrawbeLia_Solosyes but fan voting is only 1/5 of the score while the rest is streaming, korean charts, sales and radio so Illit still wins because of the bigger popularity if their song in Korea (just a fact btw I love both groups)
@@Amal_Khan_5986 I mean considering the fact that magnetic keeps playing after every single song I play (even though I never listened to magnetic or illit in Spotify) hybe could be paying 💀
yes, minju and yunah is like carrying the group and they were supposed to train before but dont hate on them! this was before and they improved a bit now!
I feel ashamed. There are bunch of other trainees who are talented af and they debut girls who didn’t get enough training. I hope they train them better.
@@Zorothebroccoli Cuz I don't get payed for this. And the way your well aware idol was giving statements after Coachella proves alot. So you should just stop making lame excuses
@@duolingo969 yeh but for me its minju only.. many said yunah too but I still can't see she carrying the grp buz she also cracks when singing live sometimes
Their song’s barely hit 1M after more than 3weeks of their release and people says their song is a hit like whT? Baemon sheesh literally hit more than 1M in a week or so I’m so surprised illit won the first prize !
In the world of music industry, we have these amazing people called "vocal coaches". Good looks get attention, but beautiful vocals and raw talent make you gain loyal fans. "Practicing" is far from having vocal coaches who teach singers proper vocalization and singing techniques.
@KR_578 They clearly did surpass BAEMOn whether you want to believe it or not. They have already charted here on the major chart in the West, whereas YG literally made BAEMON debut 3 different times because each song underperformed. Until you find actual receipts of HYBE paying for awards (which is nothing new and have been around for years), keep coping with the fact that your favs didn't win and that ILLIT simply has good music whether you think so or not.
@KR_578 Get so for real for a minute, unless you watched BAEMON pre-debut and have been with them, no one knows how talented they actually are, they have 1 album with all of the songs being mid asf and the songs themselves don't showcase the members' capabilities. I love BAEMON but their talent is only good/relevant if it's in the art which it clearly isn't and if it was, that award would've been given to them with no questions asked and they would without a doubt ACTUALLY be leading the 5th gen. ILLIT has great songs that showcase their meaning as a whole, and they are able to sing them despite their live vocals not being the greatest. Clearly ILLIT is doing something right, and like I said until BAEMON can get a better discography as well as a concept and overall message, then their content is as mid as a whole next to ILLIT's vocals that can be ignored as of right now. The award went to best rookie girl group of the year, not best vocalists. I love BAEMON but look at the wins/accolades and songs ny ILLIT what they are. GOOD and CAPTIVATING. 💯👌
Lmao and the fans have the audacity to say anything about yg artists. 🤣 bruhh now even that "tell me tell me" girl sounds good to my ears.... "But they are singing for fun." " Your idols use backtrack." lmao, the irony 😆
It's easy to see that they cried,but they still acted happy.They are so great friends to each other.And ofc they singed like that while crying,while I am crying I can't even breathe or speak normally,how is anybody expecting thwm to sing?I am great at singing,(I won some competitions)but once I cried a little,I sounded almost "bad" as them now.Especially low notes,you can't even reach them!💖our support means a lot to them,they are still young and they have a lot of time left to improve their skills!💜
It is because hybe don't bring Sakura in it she was also a great vocalist when she was a Japanese idol but hybe didn't even try to train her so please don't insult Sakura
It was a backtrack honey, it was so loud, you cannot even hear their own live voices. No one will improve magically in like 1 week. She needs a very long and serious vocal coaching, along with Kazuha and Eunchae.
@@vivitrumanto I am not the only one who believes the same honey.. and also with daily practice and not only for 3-4 hours she can improve her vocals but not perfectly..
Guys please dont hate on any of the idols (exp. Sakura, Wonhee etc.) because they are also people that have feelings so please think about it from their perspective.
Moka still sounds like the famous video where they were singing live and people were excusing her by saying "she's crying, that's why she sounds off." 😂
Guys please don't hate on them. They are young and its a problem of the agency. They don't deserve it. I am concerned about their mental health and it isn't good for them to read hate comments left and right. I admit that this very bad but again it's their agency, belift's fault.
Now these are girls are crushing stage with their live vocals and proving themselves both lessarifim and illit, in my point of view if you see a huge downfall you will stand again with more enthusiasm, and now these girls are doing the same❤❤❤
@@Stay_Engene.00 well if it's a dream to become a doctor you work hard before in order to actually become a doctor same thing for every other profession imagine a car mechanic not being able to fix a car that's the case here a singer who can't sing
@@multistanhuhue1601 Bro no I'm not talking about being a doctor, I would never. Cause I also wanna be a kpoo idol. And those kpop idols who didnt get traiend are getting trained now, after debut
Plzz guys dont hate on them they are still young the problem is not them if they cant sing its their agency the proof is that minju and yunah was trainee at yg and they are the most stable
yes, it’s the company’s fault that these girls debuted and they get hate, they need more training, and if training doesn’t help, they should find other talented beautiful girls that can sing
@@МаргоАйнулина I totally agree with you because the votes on the survival were rigged as you can see most talented ones didn't debut without mentioning jiwoo, jeemin and Chanelle who really deserved their debut, and now the girls are getting hate because they can't sing, they can't dance and their stage presence is lacking energy, all they can do is sitting down and being pretty, at this rate they should have opted for model career, and the situation we're facing now is only their company paying the consequences of the choices they made, the girls didn't train enough to be considered as complete idols it's not their fault as I said they are too young to face the consequences of their company's choices so my last opinion is that we should let the girls out of this drama and blame the company for the choices they made
@@moonlightwony on the other hand, criticism will give them something to think about and a reason to engage in intensive improvement... although... their debut song is one of the most successful, perhaps it’s enough for them to just remain beautiful, the music producers will do the rest. and ru next was the most dumbest survival show ever for many reasons…
@@МаргоАйнулина if the criticism was the reason they would improve their skills they would have already improved their vocals first because the first encore was a huge mess all members had shaky voices except yuna and minju who were carrying the whole group moka, wonhee, and iroha were shaky all the time and they couldn't hold a proper note without voice cracking, and they received a lot of hate for this encore because the song is pretty popular and the vocals were bad and if the agency really cared about their group's talents they would have trained them from the beginning and even with this vocals they won against babymonster who proved that they can have vocals, visuals, dance and rap at the same time, as an illit stan I am looking for improvement, like hybe has enough money to bring them a great vocal coach because I think that popularity should be based on talent and not on how trendy the song is cause every producer knows how to make trendy songs.
@@moonlightwonyright, are there really so few beautiful and at the same time talented children in singing throughout Korea and Asia in a whole, or did SM and YG take them all to themselves? Lol it’s a shame that they can’t sing their songs just standing, they are just dancing photo models, not idols, and certainly not artists or singers.
@@winntterxx are you serious? i know baemon are amazing vocalists. i studied music. i’m just saying song-wise, magnetic is both more popular and better. illit’s song is an easy listen whilst baemon’s pertains to a certain audience. if you can’t take an opinion that’s not even directed towards you without getting overly offended, grow up.
@@boots4000 seriously? I'm not taking this personally but really, I don't hate illit I LOVE them but srsly they need vocal coach training. Hybe girl groups literally can't sing live. Ik magnetic is way better and such a bop but u can't be talking sh*t ab babymon. They at least take this srsly, while illit cares to be kpop idols, aegyo etc. I don't hate illit or babymon, I love them equally but in comparison babymon wins
@@winntterxx i’m sorry but they won in a music show, not a talent show. i’m not hating on baemon, i’m saying their song was bad (it was) especially in comparison to illit’s. that’s not a personal attack on the members UNLESS the members produced and wrote the song themselves which i doubt they did.
I am not an illit stan..but as a fearnot I wanna say that now sakura's vocal are stable and good actually she was already a good singer the problem was her voice was not stable...She is a good singer...so don't hate her...okh imagine yourself at the place of sakura how you will feel if you see this video huh???
Guys stop saying they “can’t sing” yes true their vocals need work but their still young , please don’t hate on them they are still learning and have improved , so please stop the hate ❤
Yes they are young and will improve but it's frustrating that they won't over a group who is currently more vocally skilled. Yes they deserve love and support but when it comes to wins they shouldn't be handed them due to being young and having Hybe privilege. And ofc Baemon has privileges being in YGE but right now Baemon is a lot further along vocally.
@@HamidaBegum1then they should do some more practice before debut. Some groups actually have to trained for years and debuted when they ready and can sing.
Honestly they are becoming blink2.0 made me lose interest in babymon because of the fandom. If they want babymon to win they should just stream their songs. Digital points matter!!
How did they even manage to win 8 rewards with having a such a bad vocal coach😭😭 Hybe pls give them PROPER vocal training or you’ll lose money and popularity literally atleast there is any good singers tbh I think the rewards were paid for by hybe or it was for they’re visuals
Bro I dislike all these comments saying this person is carrying the group they’re all great singers in fact amazing the range that are singing at is not really comfortable for them whenever they sing in the range’s comfortable for them they sound amazing so please don’t judge before you hear them actually sing
Yall really need to stop hating fr this song isnt even in Moka's vocal range just look up ILLIT with JYP and look at Moka's singing and stop hating already, haters only do that bc they dont have the talent to do the things they do everyday like u don't know what the day before or before this and rn theyre Vocals r on something else and stop hating on Kkura aswell plz Le Sserafim needs more love aswell
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The fact that the only stable singers yunah and minju are former yg trainees 💀
Ikr 😂 Hybe cant manage ggs
@@StrawbeLia_Solos you pfp is sooo cute 🥰🥺
I think yunah was a hybe trainee
now ik why her vocals are good😂
@@miirywonno
Dont train a group after debut, train them BEFORE
Fr
Slay fr thoo
Have to be the top comment sis!
Exactly 😭 K-pop is becoming fast fashion kinda
Agreed ✌️
because Minju is a former YG trainee so their vocals are pretty good
1.4k like and no comment let me fix it!!first timeee👍👍👍👍
Yg is so professional bruhhh
Yeah yg artist don't come here to play 🔥🤙🔥🔥🔥
Yeah yg artist don't come here to play 🔥🤙🔥🔥🔥
Yes
Can't believe that how they are winning over BABY MONSTERS
Fr
Cuz fr💀
@@Sweet_suga7fans preferred magnetic more
@@Ryuunimi we know, but it’s like train before debut not after, like babymon has good vocals but lillit has one member carrying all of them
@@Sweet_suga7 they choose popularity over quality lmao
Hybe please give them vocal training and protect them from haters some members are still minor
2 are minors, rest are adults
@@nusratjahansamia7099 thank you for giving information
Thank u for no hate
NO WAY THEY WON OVER BABYMONSTER 💀
Really 💀
LIKE HOWW??!!
@@Success_comes_from_hardwork it's a popularity show, it would only make sense, its not a talent show
Cuz their song is better than baemon's? Not only talent, songs also matter.
@@Juliette_ferrars votes matter a lot when winning and so many fans + nonfans voted for babymonster YET they lost? kinda fishy tbh
Yunah and Minju CARRYING
I think Minju is former yg trainee
LOUDERR 🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥
@@vquiz2719it’s not you thought it's true
PREACH GIRLIE
She trained with baby monster and yk there vocals 📈
GOD BAEMON LITERALLY DESERVED THAT REWARD
AWARD* AND INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING MAKE IT HAPPEN?
@@RoseCuteGamingGurlpayola
@@RoseCuteGamingGurl
EXACTLY
@@sunhyolic blah blah blah
Cry.
hybe be feeding them some pills bc they were great before debut 💀
their song are out of their range, it's like letting felix (low voice) sing magnetic (high pitch)
@@jeprnnetietythat is a CRAZY comparison pls 💀 yeah felix isn’t a soprano so it would be super hard for him to sing in the original key but illit girls aren’t baritones. They’re just weak vocalists, that song isn’t “out of range” for the average soprano. People are misusing the “it’s out of their range” excuse so much now.
@@mimi_imfatreal you can be an alto and still be able to sing magnetic with practice and good vocal training.
Think ranges
girl no they were never great
I want to support girls, imagine you are debuting first time at young age - lots of stress, nervous surrounding, fears, etc. Don't be so evil, support each other and help each other.
I agree with you 👍
Wtf is this logic? We can't even say anything about their TERRIBLE "Singing" anymore? Look at Baemon Or Unis most of the members can ACTUALLY sing unlike Illit.
@@Swiftie105Maybe you don’t get what the words “singing live” means. *Every* k-pop group doesn’t ALWAYS sing well. Vocal training? Give them a break. Illit is already doing all they can, and knowing how much they blew up as a new popular k-pop group, they deserve all of the support they get. Them signing live is no different. Plus, bgm and a little bit of soundtrack in the bg make a huge difference. Don’t hate on them if you can’t sing, stfu.
@@scarthebugi don’t like how much hate illit is getting but be fking fr. they should’ve been trained before they debuted especially in vocals. also it’s their job as a idol to have good vocal skills. it ain’t our job.
@@kpopcecethey do have good vocals, even moka and wonhee but Hybe just chose this cute concept that none of the members can sing well in but at least Minju and yunah are slaying while Iroha is improving. Moka and wonhee are also improving cause they are singing live more but I just wish they got vocals in their range. Then no one would’ve said anything.
Yunah and Minju carried them because YG trainees Minju and Yunah had done enough VOCAL training
Yunah is from Hybe/Somu. Only Minju was from YG.
Yunah was trained in Source that’s why she’s a good vocalist Only Minju was a YG trainer
RANGES BSFR
Yunah and Minju are the only ones maintaining the vocals in the group. It’s funny how Yunah is the oldest and Minju is one of the youngest and they are the best at vocals.
minju isn’t the youngest iroha is
Minju is the 2nd oldest
minju is in the unni line wym the “one of the youngest” please do research😭 but i agree that yunah and minju’s vocals are good
@@hna_j57 whenever i replied to them it said she was flat out the youngest lmfao this person doesn’t know much about the age line in this group😭😭
@@hna_j57 When I mean one of the youngest and oldest I meant in the group. I corrected my sentence before to how it is now since I made a mistake saying that Minju is youngest.
They won over baby monster wtf 🗿
(Guys i just wrote my opinion stop fighting)
We have the same pfp :)
I heard recently that Hybe paid to reduce Baemon's points and Illit could win so Baemon left the M Countdown before the winners was said.
@@Clearm1lk HAHAHAAHHAHAHA LOL JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IS MAGNETIC IS BETTER THAN SESH. MAGNETIC IS CHARTING WELL IN S.KOREA.
@@IreneRedvelvet-js6sg Lying is fun until ur proven wrong.If really Hybe didn't paid then why does Baemon automatically lost their other 1000 points? Where did it when? Ur brain? Ur mind? Or u stole it? The points cannot automatically losses if there's no culprits
behind it?And I admit Magnetic is a good song but making a song also includes live vocals and abt having a stable vocals, Yunah n Minju is carrying the whole group rn. Have u seen Baemon singing Sheesh live?Ahyeon even did a high note live while dancing to Sheesh so that means they really deserved the awards.
@@IreneRedvelvet-js6sg And also,it's spelled "Sheesh" not "SESH" n why r u typing in capital letters? R u that mad Sheesh is winning over Magnetic?N at least if u wanna roast anyone make sure u learn spelling n grammar so they doesn't have to waste their time trying to correct u lmao
THEIR VOCALS IN R U BEXT ARE AMAZING WTF DID HYBE DO TO THEM
That's because vocals were pitch corrected on r u next, and songs were more in there vocal range
@@kpopgreentea fr
cs their concept dont suit them, moka and irohas vocals r better when they use their deep voice
@@heeswifeyyikr that this point only wonhee fits this concept
@@Cloudd_stvrx wonhee can fit other concepts too
We shouldn’t hate on them, we should just hope they get lessons.
Real. Only good comment here
They don’t. Gfriend (the only hybe group with more than 1 above average singers) said that when they debut, they stopped taking vocal lessons
Hybe :-
Vocal training ❌
Abs training ✅
True
Real😂😂😂
Fr
These fans .......
😂😂
I’m not a ILL-IT hater I actually am a Stan but like I agree that most of the members should practice their vocals.But the fact they won over BABYMONSTER is very surprising..
Baby monster's have a great vocals❤
Yes but they also compare the songs
BABYMONSTER has nothing to do with their win wtf??? 💯
Ikr. Hybe needs to pay serious attention on Illit's vocals. Even if there songs and music is the best, they need to sing while dancing live. Their vocals need generous training. YG is keen on Baemon's every feild. Be it music or dance or live vocals. They slay them all. Baemon deserved it.
@@AidanMoreno-o2c gurll illit won over baemon. Ofc it's a matter on which stans can share their opinions.
For everyone who is confused that they won over babymonster, kiss of life and other groups, it's popularity, charts, album sales that count not talent, sadly
Hybe paid for illit to win . They are even trying to replace new jeans
Hybe paid. Baemon has way more fans than illit.
@@StrawbeLia_Solosyes but fan voting is only 1/5 of the score while the rest is streaming, korean charts, sales and radio so Illit still wins because of the bigger popularity if their song in Korea (just a fact btw I love both groups)
@@StrawbeLia_Solosand what about Spotify streams? Illit have more monthly listeners than babymon... Did hybe paid Spotify too? Bffr.
@@Amal_Khan_5986 I mean considering the fact that magnetic keeps playing after every single song I play (even though I never listened to magnetic or illit in Spotify) hybe could be paying 💀
yes, minju and yunah is like carrying the group and they were supposed to train before but dont hate on them! this was before and they improved a bit now!
I think yunah's vocals sound beautiful too🥺
Minju and yunah... many fans forget yunah is also live everytime and she has stable vocals too.
Because she was a former yg trainee
@@hithamadhu4592 if she was in hybe from the beginning then she would suck too.
@@StrawbeLia_Solosik.
Who's the third one
I feel ashamed. There are bunch of other trainees who are talented af and they debut girls who didn’t get enough training. I hope they train them better.
Agree it’s super unfair.
"when ur vocal coach is sakura" DANG AHAHAHAH
😭🤣
It's kinda sad because Sakura is getting dragged into Illit's vocal mess
@@Zorothebroccoli Broo go and listen to Sakuras vocals. She deserve all this
@M_kook1 Sakura is aware that she doesn't sing well. You shouldn't be shaming them for it, I believe you can't sing any better
@@Zorothebroccoli Cuz I don't get payed for this. And the way your well aware idol was giving statements after Coachella proves alot.
So you should just stop making lame excuses
Illit win because hybe give money to ninth and say to reduce baby monster points
But baby monster leave the show before they announce the winner
no cs theyre popular and their songs r better than baemon
@@heeswifeyyI have a terrible voice but I can sing better than them
@GabriellamarieCordero I think she haven't seen the live vocal or Mr removed... Literally The audience sings for Illit..
@@heeswifeyybut baemon is more talented. its so dissapointing that they are looking for the popularity not in the quality tsk
@@heeswifeyy Wake up to reality💀
Kpop idols from hybe before debuting: great and amazing vocals
Kpop idold from hybe after debuting: 💀
Yunah is a good singer too!
Nah only minju carry the vocal
@@nishi3621 yunah AND minju
@@duolingo969 yeh but for me its minju only.. many said yunah too but I still can't see she carrying the grp buz she also cracks when singing live sometimes
Yep yunah and minju both are yg former trainees afterall
@@nishi3621that’s normal tho even main vocalists is other groups have voice cracks sometimes
Not a babymonster stan but THEY DESERVE BETTER LIKE AT LEAST OVER THEM😭
They did good everyone is so good😅
pov whenn your vocal coach is sakura is crazy 😭
That's why baby monster is the best fifth generation group❤❤❤❤
Ok but you don’t need to shit on Sakura when it’s not her fault.
Yes but also they win 8th trophy can't believe kcitizens😂
8? What?
@@scarlet_heart9658cause They love their song obviously
Even koreans are not fond of their performances but they keep winning 😂😂
They won the trophies because of the song and not for their live performance
Their song’s barely hit 1M after more than 3weeks of their release and people says their song is a hit like whT? Baemon sheesh literally hit more than 1M in a week or so I’m so surprised illit won the first prize !
That first girl tho😆
I love Moka but her vocals really need improvement
@@YourLocalHanberryyeah I agree
@@YourLocalHanberryHANBERRY?
💀
@@UrLocalBTSarmy Seungberryyy
"Gayga bOayeYyay" pls help me 😭 (- I'm not trying to make fun of them tho! - )
There's a clip where she wasn't as bad as that, but she still need more vocal training, her voice lacks control
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 but it was still bad?
@@THEINSWINGOfficial did you not see the "she still needs vocal training" part?
" I'm not trying to make fun of them " playing a victim card
If it was based on pure vocals. Baemon would’ve won easy 😊
Thanks. Now I have the confidence to debut.
u still need to look good
In the world of music industry, we have these amazing people called "vocal coaches". Good looks get attention, but beautiful vocals and raw talent make you gain loyal fans. "Practicing" is far from having vocal coaches who teach singers proper vocalization and singing techniques.
Not them vibing even they messed the live singing 😂
😂😂😂😂Imao
How people saying they better than babymonster or newjeans
Even the bug under my bed sings better
OMG
TYSM FOR THE COMMENTS
Oof cry about it that your favs didn't win and don't pit other groups against each other. 💯
@KR_578 They clearly did surpass BAEMOn whether you want to believe it or not. They have already charted here on the major chart in the West, whereas YG literally made BAEMON debut 3 different times because each song underperformed. Until you find actual receipts of HYBE paying for awards (which is nothing new and have been around for years), keep coping with the fact that your favs didn't win and that ILLIT simply has good music whether you think so or not.
@KR_578 Get so for real for a minute, unless you watched BAEMON pre-debut and have been with them, no one knows how talented they actually are, they have 1 album with all of the songs being mid asf and the songs themselves don't showcase the members' capabilities. I love BAEMON but their talent is only good/relevant if it's in the art which it clearly isn't and if it was, that award would've been given to them with no questions asked and they would without a doubt ACTUALLY be leading the 5th gen. ILLIT has great songs that showcase their meaning as a whole, and they are able to sing them despite their live vocals not being the greatest. Clearly ILLIT is doing something right, and like I said until BAEMON can get a better discography as well as a concept and overall message, then their content is as mid as a whole next to ILLIT's vocals that can be ignored as of right now. The award went to best rookie girl group of the year, not best vocalists. I love BAEMON but look at the wins/accolades and songs ny ILLIT what they are. GOOD and CAPTIVATING. 💯👌
I woke up and what
Tysm for the comments
@@HelloILoveKpop456 your welcome for the reality check 👌😉
For anyone wondering how they won over Baemon with these vocals, Hybe paid money to make them win.
NO WAY
@@SoraxLight348 fr
No need to insult Sakura
It is kind of unfair to Baby Monster because their voice is not that good, and they win just because they are cute. WTF No way
They won because they had the better song and fans streamed their song more.
Lmao and the fans have the audacity to say anything about yg artists. 🤣 bruhh now even that "tell me tell me" girl sounds good to my ears.... "But they are singing for fun." " Your idols use backtrack." lmao, the irony 😆
Bro, it can't be serious that they won over Baemon with these skills
Ikr. Baemon deserved it fr.
Only because hybe paid
the fact we could have had chanelle, jiwoo, jeongeun, maybe even jihyun! but we ended up w this..
Just leave them alone, you will see. ILLIT is very talented
@@Red._.Cherxyme
ALSO YUNAH IS CARRYING HER VOCALS ARE RLLY GOOD TOO
I REFUSE👹 to believe they won over babymonster
It's easy to see that they cried,but they still acted happy.They are so great friends to each other.And ofc they singed like that while crying,while I am crying I can't even breathe or speak normally,how is anybody expecting thwm to sing?I am great at singing,(I won some competitions)but once I cried a little,I sounded almost "bad" as them now.Especially low notes,you can't even reach them!💖our support means a lot to them,they are still young and they have a lot of time left to improve their skills!💜
I know!!! Some people don't give them anytime to improve. 😢
@@kellyhynes5923 yes!😕
Oh they cried every time they performed?? Woah then they are really good at performing
@@kellyhynes5923time to improve?? wtf? They had enough time to learn how to sing before debut! Stop putting this on viewers as well!
Then they shouldn't debut early and give them more practice to sing properly
I agree but I think we shouldn’t hate on them it’s not their fault
It is because hybe don't bring Sakura in it she was also a great vocalist when she was a Japanese idol but hybe didn't even try to train her so please don't insult Sakura
In what galaxy
U must hear Sakuraba voice in coachella weekend 2.. she has improveeee sooo soo much!!!😍
Finally someone wrote something good about Sakura. I feel happy when someone protect her.❤
Well it was backtrack
It was a backtrack honey, it was so loud, you cannot even hear their own live voices. No one will improve magically in like 1 week. She needs a very long and serious vocal coaching, along with Kazuha and Eunchae.
@@vivitrumanto I am not the only one who believes the same honey.. and also with daily practice and not only for 3-4 hours she can improve her vocals but not perfectly..
Do you think a sakura who couldnt improve for 13 years was able to improve in a couple days? Just accept shes just a visual and move on. She sucks.
Yall are sleeping on yunah she is also very good
everyone in this comment section pretty much talking abt her too..
Wow, shows that they turn anyone into a performer
Guys please dont hate on any of the idols (exp. Sakura, Wonhee etc.) because they are also people that have feelings so please think about it from their perspective.
Moka still sounds like the famous video where they were singing live and people were excusing her by saying "she's crying, that's why she sounds off." 😂
Guys please don't hate on them. They are young and its a problem of the agency. They don't deserve it. I am concerned about their mental health and it isn't good for them to read hate comments left and right. I admit that this very bad but again it's their agency, belift's fault.
Frrr... 💯💜✨
Now these are girls are crushing stage with their live vocals and proving themselves both lessarifim and illit, in my point of view if you see a huge downfall you will stand again with more enthusiasm, and now these girls are doing the same❤❤❤
She sounds like SpongeBob help-😭
watch illit’s ‘when we disco’ cover, they actually do have good vocals.
Guys seriously stop hating idols. Its hard being a kpop idol and we don't know how hard it is. Try being in their shoes for a day and see
Then why become a kpop idol? At this point they could shoot someone and you would give the same reply 😂
@@multistanhuhue1601 Because you know its someones dream to become a kpop idol
@@Stay_Engene.00 well if it's a dream to become a doctor you work hard before in order to actually become a doctor same thing for every other profession imagine a car mechanic not being able to fix a car that's the case here a singer who can't sing
@@multistanhuhue1601 Bro no I'm not talking about being a doctor, I would never. Cause I also wanna be a kpoo idol. And those kpop idols who didnt get traiend are getting trained now, after debut
@@Stay_Engene.00 that's too late 2/3 years of training and they still can't sing
Sakura sings well. Please no hate sakura
ermmmm she improved i believe but i wouldn’t say sing well
THE FIRST ONE SOUNDS LIKE A GOAT!! 🐐🐑🐐🐐🐑🐐🐑🐐
don't.
more like trash haha 😂
Who was that?
@@sooya257 Moka of Illit
For real
Ok but it’s not the idols fault ITS THE COMPANYS FAULT
illit : we buy awards not won ahahah 😂😂
So that’s why Babymonster trained 1 month for prepared everything and hybe prepared illit for 2 sec
Plzz guys dont hate on them they are still young the problem is not them if they cant sing its their agency the proof is that minju and yunah was trainee at yg and they are the most stable
yes, it’s the company’s fault that these girls debuted and they get hate, they need more training, and if training doesn’t help, they should find other talented beautiful girls that can sing
@@МаргоАйнулина I totally agree with you because the votes on the survival were rigged as you can see most talented ones didn't debut without mentioning jiwoo, jeemin and Chanelle who really deserved their debut, and now the girls are getting hate because they can't sing, they can't dance and their stage presence is lacking energy, all they can do is sitting down and being pretty, at this rate they should have opted for model career, and the situation we're facing now is only their company paying the consequences of the choices they made, the girls didn't train enough to be considered as complete idols it's not their fault as I said they are too young to face the consequences of their company's choices so my last opinion is that we should let the girls out of this drama and blame the company for the choices they made
@@moonlightwony on the other hand, criticism will give them something to think about and a reason to engage in intensive improvement... although... their debut song is one of the most successful, perhaps it’s enough for them to just remain beautiful, the music producers will do the rest. and ru next was the most dumbest survival show ever for many reasons…
@@МаргоАйнулина if the criticism was the reason they would improve their skills they would have already improved their vocals first because the first encore was a huge mess all members had shaky voices except yuna and minju who were carrying the whole group moka, wonhee, and iroha were shaky all the time and they couldn't hold a proper note without voice cracking, and they received a lot of hate for this encore because the song is pretty popular and the vocals were bad and if the agency really cared about their group's talents they would have trained them from the beginning and even with this vocals they won against babymonster who proved that they can have vocals, visuals, dance and rap at the same time, as an illit stan I am looking for improvement, like hybe has enough money to bring them a great vocal coach because I think that popularity should be based on talent and not on how trendy the song is cause every producer knows how to make trendy songs.
@@moonlightwonyright, are there really so few beautiful and at the same time talented children in singing throughout Korea and Asia in a whole, or did SM and YG take them all to themselves? Lol it’s a shame that they can’t sing their songs just standing, they are just dancing photo models, not idols, and certainly not artists or singers.
Minjiu needs to become the hybe vocal trainer 💀
Honestly, im younger than them, no vocal coach training, and have better vocals than them.😭 BABYMON DESERVED THE AWARD!!!!!
baemon’s song was bad.
@@boots4000 Umm have u heard Babymonster's vocals live?! I guess not. Prob u can't even sing high notes on LIVE stage😭💀
@@winntterxx are you serious? i know baemon are amazing vocalists. i studied music. i’m just saying song-wise, magnetic is both more popular and better. illit’s song is an easy listen whilst baemon’s pertains to a certain audience. if you can’t take an opinion that’s not even directed towards you without getting overly offended, grow up.
@@boots4000 seriously? I'm not taking this personally but really, I don't hate illit I LOVE them but srsly they need vocal coach training. Hybe girl groups literally can't sing live. Ik magnetic is way better and such a bop but u can't be talking sh*t ab babymon. They at least take this srsly, while illit cares to be kpop idols, aegyo etc. I don't hate illit or babymon, I love them equally but in comparison babymon wins
@@winntterxx i’m sorry but they won in a music show, not a talent show. i’m not hating on baemon, i’m saying their song was bad (it was) especially in comparison to illit’s. that’s not a personal attack on the members UNLESS the members produced and wrote the song themselves which i doubt they did.
The third and fourth girl is literally carrying the whole group
They’re vocals at Weverse con were really good😊
😂😂😂your ears got problem？You don't even know that their girls didn't even open the wheat and lip-synch
Don't hate Sakura
The first girl sounds like shinchan to me😅 "Gayga bOayeYyay"
SHE DOES LMAO-
She is i think Moka
don't bully moka
miss the days when encore was for shifts and giggles and it being just a fun time for idols and fans, not a place for criticism
My favourite ❤
They sound like minions except the last girl
HYBE fr needs a new group with actual vocals to revive themselves after this one 😭
I am not an illit stan..but as a fearnot I wanna say that now sakura's vocal are stable and good actually she was already a good singer the problem was her voice was not stable...She is a good singer...so don't hate her...okh imagine yourself at the place of sakura how you will feel if you see this video huh???
Its crazy how yall determine their skills just because of an encore
They're improving
Guys stop saying they “can’t sing” yes true their vocals need work but their still young , please don’t hate on them they are still learning and have improved , so please stop the hate ❤
Yeah its not their fault
@@jisoreo yes thank you 🙌 I think they just need some time
Yes they are young and will improve but it's frustrating that they won't over a group who is currently more vocally skilled. Yes they deserve love and support but when it comes to wins they shouldn't be handed them due to being young and having Hybe privilege. And ofc Baemon has privileges being in YGE but right now Baemon is a lot further along vocally.
@@ameliarose47 true
The reason why they won over our babymonster is that hybe paid the Mnet 😢
And such a screeching vocals 💀
Why r the comments act so rude😢 wow I lit feel bad for them😭imagine them seeing this💀
Right I’m scared for them and they are still so young
Nah no way bro , they have their entire life ahead of them, this career is clearly not for them, the sooner they realize the better
@@babyshark833agree
So what ?? They should be good singers because they are singers 💀
Womp womp
People keep forgetting about Yunah. She's also a stable vocalist
ILLIT❤❤
No one can deny HYBE make good music so they wins~
Exactly. And the awards are stupidly all about popularity not talent. :(
First girl want to be cute😂
Whole point💀
@@HamidaBegum1 their make up looks cute,but not their vocal👁👄👁
@@wuttyishwe7202 practice makes perfect but something called SUPPORT would help them
@@HamidaBegum1then they should do some more practice before debut. Some groups actually have to trained for years and debuted when they ready and can sing.
@@HamidaBegum1Wht you talking about 😂😂 They are professional they should atleast sing decently 💀
They basically trained for nothing 💀💀
Hybe needs to grow up and pay for GODMAN VOCAL TRAINERS 😭
Why are you hating on Sakura she is literally crying because of the hate and know she is scared to sing because of the hate please stop
GUYS they can sing well its just the concept watch "r u next"
Babymon fans are so rude to this young girls for their win.But my girls are improving❤
From what i just heard I don't think they even tried to improve
Honestly they are becoming blink2.0 made me lose interest in babymon because of the fandom. If they want babymon to win they should just stream their songs. Digital points matter!!
How did they even manage to win 8 rewards with having a such a bad vocal coach😭😭 Hybe pls give them PROPER vocal training or you’ll lose money and popularity literally atleast there is any good singers tbh I think the rewards were paid for by hybe or it was for they’re visuals
People be like: it's ok tHey ArE improving~.....Like thats the problem, improve them before debut not after debut
Bro I dislike all these comments saying this person is carrying the group they’re all great singers in fact amazing the range that are singing at is not really comfortable for them whenever they sing in the range’s comfortable for them they sound amazing so please don’t judge before you hear them actually sing
Yall really need to stop hating fr this song isnt even in Moka's vocal range just look up ILLIT with JYP and look at Moka's singing and stop hating already, haters only do that bc they dont have the talent to do the things they do everyday like u don't know what the day before or before this and rn theyre Vocals r on something else and stop hating on Kkura aswell plz Le Sserafim needs more love aswell
You can't blame them, their dancing and singing that's hard to do.
And they disbanded one of the most stable vocal girl group in kpop, hybe is a joke 😢
Ok y are yall so mean like wtf they are minors
Hate on the company sure but the hate will really mess them up because of how young they are ☹️
Hybe is only making them idols bc of their looks they're not talented enough and u said they're minors they're not old enough to do k pop
Yes bro I support u we shouldn't hate them
DONT HATE ON THEM, But yea a vocal trainee would not hurt
Encores were fun back then,it was never series.These new fans of today...😑