As someone that just got started with KT, I am so happy I started with compendium scouts instead of one of the box sets. Every single scout you own has the same defense dice and save score, as well as all but one of them having the same wounds. 3 snipers, 2 heavies, 4 warriors and a leader gives you enough room to stretch out and consider options from every vantage, boardstate, and enemy distance. A few special rules such as the camo cloak the snipers get and the difference between frag and krak launchers gives you a good keyhole into niche rules. Beyond that, it 100% up to your brainpower to figure out how to best set up your guys. Looking into the legionnaires as my second team, I was blown away and felt super out of my depth when I saw just how much went into them before even placing your figures in the game, and definitely would've been lost, uncomfortable, and discouraged from playing more had I started with them.
Also an upside of compendium is it can be easier to make precisely the team you want from a hobby/faction perspective! If you're really committed to a team for the lore, I'd recommend digging in with the compendium teams first so you can vibe with your faction (and then pick up a bespoke team if and when you're ready to).
I've been playing compendium Ecclesiarchy for my entire KT career. Overall I find that for what they lack in bells and whistles, they make up in flexibility. Pivoting from full shooty to fighty monsters allows me to set the tone of the match.
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Deathwatch is great! The Warrior cannot get a shotgun and a power weapon though. Only boltgun + power weapon is possible.
My fav compendium teams gotta be tempestus scions fire team. That 3+ and the simplicity of the team is so fun. It’s like Vet Guard, but so much simpler
I have a scout Kill Team and it's my favorite team to play. I really wanted Arbities before they got a bespoke team, so I use almost all shotguns with a sniper and missile launcher and they do great.
They definitely don't suck for learning. I'm currently running through the first 10 games process with a guy at my LGS... he's running greenskins against my Corsairs, and right now, we're at 2-2. Last game felt more like it leant heavily towards me, but I was changing things up. If you're just learning the game and already have minis, the compendium teams work perfectly well.
We’ve had hive fleet, deathwatch, grey knights, custodes and death guard players in our local meta. Compendium teams are not something you should take lightly! Especially ITD. Their main weakness is predictability - if you know what they do, you can play around them with a bespoke team. But that requires skill on the bespoke players side to maximise their team. You put a compendium team in the hands of Ace, he’s probably still beating your average player.
i stand by my deathwatch team, even if everyone plays bespoke in my playgroup. they're just too fun to play and you get the occasional moments where your attacks absolutely wreck face
Im a lil new to kill team and was lookin for some advice. I play vet guard and my friend plays legionaries, it kinda keeps happening where he will place everyone on next to a vantage point, move on it, shoot then dash off, he has 2-3 people keep doing this every tunring point. I might kill 1 and score more om primary but in the end he gets all his seek and destroy secondaries and we end with a tie. Ill kill like 4 of his im left with 2. I tend to stay in cocseal alot since id rather score on primary but he just shoots me off the board everytime
Remember, vantage points only ignores light cover, not heavy cover! Use heavy cover and obscuring to your advantage. I have a video coming soon about how to deploy defensively.
@VentrueMinis oh youre a gem, i think since we're new we've been playing terrain wrong. Basically we have mirrored board with 1 piece of heavy terrain next to each of our drop zones, all objectives and everything inbetween is light cover. I really wanna get into the dark terrain but the boxes keep sellin out :0
@@harris4723 definitely have heavy terrain in the middle of the board! Heavy terrain goes in the middle. It should block line of sight from one drop zone to another.
I only played Bespoke team against Compendium Sp1cemarine team for now. I never won even once. Grey knight are very strong and ibtercessor hit very hard
Please...dont do this. Dont get my hopes up.... Btw you wanna do a video on Dwarves? I heard they also got the short end of the stick. Would need a bit of guidance!
@@VentrueMinis YESSSS! I ordered the Hearthkyn from the box and an extra box of warriors. I went too deep and committed when it turned out they SUCK :D So I need all the help I can get! Thanks a bunch my guy!
@@VentrueMinis perhaps I should rephrase my comment. I believe that the are similar in this level of skill required, yet the ease with which one can purchase and paint a meta kill team is magnitudes greater than purchasing, painting and tuning a meta 40k army. Thus, this fact combined with the frequent amounts of busted white dwarf teams (void troupe, wyrm coven) and new box releases (beast men, pathfinders) mean that it is much easier to use overpowered teams. While the disparity between good and bad might be similar between 40k and kt, it is exacerbated to to kill team’s scale.
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Ty for the comments about the power weapon - oops! No power weapon and shotgun for the Deathwatch, just shotgun. Still pretty solid!
As someone that just got started with KT, I am so happy I started with compendium scouts instead of one of the box sets. Every single scout you own has the same defense dice and save score, as well as all but one of them having the same wounds. 3 snipers, 2 heavies, 4 warriors and a leader gives you enough room to stretch out and consider options from every vantage, boardstate, and enemy distance. A few special rules such as the camo cloak the snipers get and the difference between frag and krak launchers gives you a good keyhole into niche rules. Beyond that, it 100% up to your brainpower to figure out how to best set up your guys. Looking into the legionnaires as my second team, I was blown away and felt super out of my depth when I saw just how much went into them before even placing your figures in the game, and definitely would've been lost, uncomfortable, and discouraged from playing more had I started with them.
Also an upside of compendium is it can be easier to make precisely the team you want from a hobby/faction perspective! If you're really committed to a team for the lore, I'd recommend digging in with the compendium teams first so you can vibe with your faction (and then pick up a bespoke team if and when you're ready to).
I agree! One of my friends has played Death Guard since first edition of KT and he’s one of the strongest in our playgroup!
engagement for the engagement God! Posts for the post throne!
I've been playing compendium Ecclesiarchy for my entire KT career. Overall I find that for what they lack in bells and whistles, they make up in flexibility. Pivoting from full shooty to fighty monsters allows me to set the tone of the match.
Deathwatch is great! The Warrior cannot get a shotgun and a power weapon though. Only boltgun + power weapon is possible.
Gotta say that Compendium Commorites are insanely fun, and I've never felt outclassed playing them into a bespoke faction.
Great video, man, I'm going to try Hunter Cadre tomorrow with stealth suits and fire warriors, wish me luck!
Good luck!
As someone whos won a major with a compendium team, I approve of this video!
Woah! What major?
@VentrueMinis KTO, won with Talons.
My fav compendium teams gotta be tempestus scions fire team. That 3+ and the simplicity of the team is so fun. It’s like Vet Guard, but so much simpler
You're the best, very hyped for this video
no you!
I have a scout Kill Team and it's my favorite team to play. I really wanted Arbities before they got a bespoke team, so I use almost all shotguns with a sniper and missile launcher and they do great.
They definitely don't suck for learning. I'm currently running through the first 10 games process with a guy at my LGS... he's running greenskins against my Corsairs, and right now, we're at 2-2.
Last game felt more like it leant heavily towards me, but I was changing things up.
If you're just learning the game and already have minis, the compendium teams work perfectly well.
We’ve had hive fleet, deathwatch, grey knights, custodes and death guard players in our local meta. Compendium teams are not something you should take lightly! Especially ITD.
Their main weakness is predictability - if you know what they do, you can play around them with a bespoke team. But that requires skill on the bespoke players side to maximise their team. You put a compendium team in the hands of Ace, he’s probably still beating your average player.
Iove Compendium Deathwatch. They can be lethal if your opponents take them for granted.
i stand by my deathwatch team, even if everyone plays bespoke in my playgroup. they're just too fun to play and you get the occasional moments where your attacks absolutely wreck face
Great video!
Im a lil new to kill team and was lookin for some advice. I play vet guard and my friend plays legionaries, it kinda keeps happening where he will place everyone on next to a vantage point, move on it, shoot then dash off, he has 2-3 people keep doing this every tunring point. I might kill 1 and score more om primary but in the end he gets all his seek and destroy secondaries and we end with a tie. Ill kill like 4 of his im left with 2. I tend to stay in cocseal alot since id rather score on primary but he just shoots me off the board everytime
Basically how to do i deal with vantage points and not get shot off the board as vet guard
Remember, vantage points only ignores light cover, not heavy cover! Use heavy cover and obscuring to your advantage. I have a video coming soon about how to deploy defensively.
@VentrueMinis oh youre a gem, i think since we're new we've been playing terrain wrong. Basically we have mirrored board with 1 piece of heavy terrain next to each of our drop zones, all objectives and everything inbetween is light cover. I really wanna get into the dark terrain but the boxes keep sellin out :0
@@harris4723 definitely have heavy terrain in the middle of the board! Heavy terrain goes in the middle. It should block line of sight from one drop zone to another.
Underrated… a little, but goddamn most teams suck compared to bespoke. I hope they get updates in the annual.
Giving all compendium space marines 13 wounds instead of 11 would make them quite competitive
Grey knights are still are my most successful team
I only played Bespoke team against Compendium Sp1cemarine team for now. I never won even once. Grey knight are very strong and ibtercessor hit very hard
Sorted 😂
Ty🤣
I love Death Guard but they are the definition of mid
Please...dont do this. Dont get my hopes up....
Btw you wanna do a video on Dwarves? I heard they also got the short end of the stick. Would need a bit of guidance!
Dwarves are pretty chill. I'd definitely give my thoughts on them!
@@VentrueMinis YESSSS! I ordered the Hearthkyn from the box and an extra box of warriors. I went too deep and committed when it turned out they SUCK :D So I need all the help I can get! Thanks a bunch my guy!
it feels like they are but i think they might be a good ranged team especially with their odd buffs! hearthkin players unite!
So Compendium teams are for good players that want to win less............So as an average Death Guard player I'm still screwed? Great 😑🤣🤣
ok now do tau. that is a team that cannot work
You kinda admit yourself that compendium is no where near as good as bespoke throughout your whole video….
Absolutely. This is a response to the idea that "no one should play compendium since you'll lose to bespoke teams every time no matter what."
@@VentrueMinis ah I see
@@VentrueMinis I see. Thanks for clarifying.
Sorry man, it is just as much, if not more, list/team than 40k.
Care to explain why you think so?
@@VentrueMinis perhaps I should rephrase my comment. I believe that the are similar in this level of skill required, yet the ease with which one can purchase and paint a meta kill team is magnitudes greater than purchasing, painting and tuning a meta 40k army. Thus, this fact combined with the frequent amounts of busted white dwarf teams (void troupe, wyrm coven) and new box releases (beast men, pathfinders) mean that it is much easier to use overpowered teams. While the disparity between good and bad might be similar between 40k and kt, it is exacerbated to to kill team’s scale.