Haha, totally forgot about them! I don't think so. They're super underpowered right now. If you need close range, take Breachers. You only get 5 cops despite being worse (6 breachers!)
@@VentrueMinis Ruthless Efficiency is on their datacards, much like Breachers have Void Armour on theirs, and so can benefit from it even as an Ancillary Support! I think there are some great utility options Exaction Squad can uniquely provide. The Malocator gives you another avenue to create crits (which benefit your whole team against a target), which can stack with the Mystic buff - and even without that, he can do a mission action or pick up for 1 less AP, which makes him great for objective play and is the only Ancillary Support operative with that ability available to Inquisition (plus, he has a 4/4 shotgun). The Revelatum gets a sweet pre-game move, a meme long-range pistol, and an ability to make an enemy count as engage for nearby allies. The neat thing there is that he can use that revealing ability and then run back, providing the Counts-as-Engage effect to your shooters further back since he doesn't have to stay within 6" of the target the whole time, just for using the ability at first. The Castigator is a solid all-rounder operative, with decent melee and shooting, some survivability with his 6+++ and ignore modifiers, and the potential to put someone under arrest and use them as a hostage (if you can survive the melee). The Marksman is solid, particularly once he is in position and able to use Take Aim, which gives him Balanced (and this can stack with Quarry!) 2 re-rolls plus the potential for Mystic/Malocator buffs can give very reliable damage/MW output. Subductors are great tanks and front-liners in general, and can get even crazier with the Interrogator/Tome-Skull auras. Aside from these more unique operatives, taking Exaction Squad still gives you access to a Medic, and one with a 4/4 shotgun at that, as well as a Comms that is, while not quite on Kasrkin Vox level, still better than the Comms options in other Ancillary Supports due to not having a 6" range restriction. You do miss out on the abundance of AP weaponry that Vet Guard and Kasrkin can provide, but you can take a Grenade Launcher Gunner set to permanent Krak mode, essentially, and, combining that with the Marksman, can kind of imitate the Sniper+Gunner set ups of Vet Guard/Kasrkin.
This is amazingly well done. Genuinely the best faction guide for KT I have ever seen. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you cover Kommandos in the future.
I found much success with taking at least 1 flamer in the ancilliary, (vet guard or sisters) for dealing with bunched up enemies, and using the multi melta on the servitor for sniping important targets. I found that most people just won't bunch up against the plasma cannon, making the higher single target damage more useful.
@@VentrueMinis yeah, it's kinda problematic here in Ukraine :) Yet I can't play that often, so I'll stick to breachers and Hand of the Archon for now. Many thanks for your cool videos, really helps with ideas and how to play against other teams. Very helpful.
Yeah most of them seem to be being scalped on ebay for $100+. However Remaker makes a great proxy stl so I just 3D printed my inquisition kill team, and run them with my vostroyans as vet guard.
@@slimjim7411 , good choice :) I actually have Darktide inspired models for my Blooded. Just to clarify - is it 'Remaker' or "Redmaker" you're talking about?
Correction, if the debuff tome is active and a friendly is within 2" of that tome then if the friendly operative is shot or attacked, then its -1 for the attacker. So basically, the endurant moves up, shielding the interrogator so both the endurant and himself will be attacked by -1 dice for shooting :D
With all he changes, how would you modify your guide to Inquisition in 2024? I think that against Nemesis claw the intense scrutiny can become very handy!
This is excellent. I'm sceptical that Quarry can bounce to a secondary target during a Blast attack though. Compare the FAQ about how Medic abilities work.
Hey! Thanks so much for the guide! I do have a question though... I'm gaming on a bit of a budget, and got my one box of agents for a really great price but that means i can only take ONE variant of all the operatives that have them unless i buy a second box (which is off the table right now) what 4 variants would you pick? (Im filling the rest of the team with vet guardsmen, which my friend is lending me from the octarius set we split, if that helps.)
Heyo, Dan Barton here. I'm a fan of putting the attack buff on the leader. He can charge, and then be safe from shooting. Skull can't. You could bait a charge from your opponent there to set up a servitor blast, or just stab them with another guy, at +1 dice. That'll make the questkeeper reliable or the death world vet super reliable. And the defensive buff is best used where they're sitting safely behind cover, since it doesn't need visibility. The skull is actually way harder to get into place next to enemies. Personally I think you're under rating Kasrkin, since they are a bit tougher, but the super comms value is very high on Octarius and ITD due to the doors. Sisters are a bit meh, I guess they would make the reroll ploy good? But no Vratine faceplate... so.... yeah. And exaction do have a good place, against cults, goats, and void dancers, 3 very strong teams at the moment. I'm not a fan of the questkeeper. Injury is not worth the extra wounds other melee operatives yield from having a form of damage negation. Zealot frag is a combo? I wouldn't use it... but it's there. Hexorcist... good against teams super reliant on rerolls I guess. Also goats if they're allowed to switch Frenzy off, but we'll have to wait for the FAQ.
Really like that analysis on the buff. Might try swapping it next game, it feels super awkward to set up but yours might be a bit easier. The value seems better with the attack buff on the skull but the set up is so much harder as you said.
I'm not sure that Quarry can bounce mid-blast, since all blast attacks are supposed to happen simultaneously (there's an FAQ ruling about how this interacts with medics). I hope there's an FAQ about this to clarify!
@@VentrueMinis I mean, we already get a free hit-or-crit on every attack out of a blasting plasma - at a certain point asking for additional rerolls is just greedy ;)
@@burp114 reading the wording the medic FAQ doesn't make it clear enough to say with Quarry. "Resolve all of the required shooting attacks, then if the MEDIC operative is not incapacitated, use that ability at the start of the Remove Incapacitated Operatives step." We'll have to see! EDIT: the Incapacitated Operatives step does make it clear!
Actually the Remove Incapacitated Operative step definitely makes it clear that Quarry doesn't bounce until blast ends since it only bounces when the operatives are removed, not just incapacitated. Ty for making me check! Description edited.
I still don´t und understand why the Death World Veteran has only one attack with the Knife. Like where and when do you use it most effective when fighting in combat? One attack is usually stacked against the odds of 3 save rolls. while the Polearm has statistically more chances of hitting at 4 attacks against 3 save rolls. Is the Knife like a Hight Risk - High Reward kind of play?
I haven't played Vet Guardsmen, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with how the detonate works - could you please explain how you are planting the mine through the container, or shooting through it?
I recommend checking out my vet guard video! I have a more in-depth explanation there. The tl;Dr is that the mine's blast ignores terrain on open boards.
I have never played killteam but picked up ashes of faith because i liked the way most of the models looked. Now an acquaintance has asked me to play so I thought I would throw together a team. Would you mind explaining an easy/inexpensive way to put together the ancillary support?
I was thinking if you take Kasrkin with them. And take the recon trooper you get an extra scout. So double dash barricade your servitor fkr a deadly turn 1 shot if yiu gave the chance.
@@DodgethisCZ Completely changes the ancillary support, does nothing to the main choice. Pistolier and Servitor are the best AP2 operatives across every roster available both ancillary and mainline, so you just take those as your AP2. That means your ancillary has to be good without the AP2 options.
Do you think the space cops have their place on a roster?
Haha, totally forgot about them! I don't think so. They're super underpowered right now. If you need close range, take Breachers. You only get 5 cops despite being worse (6 breachers!)
@@VentrueMinis 4/4 shotguns though and they can shoot into engagement plus the shield parry is amazing into melee hoards
@@luckylibtard8731 I don't think they get faction their abilities to shoot in engagement. EDIT: oh nice they do!
@@VentrueMinis Ruthless Efficiency is on their datacards, much like Breachers have Void Armour on theirs, and so can benefit from it even as an Ancillary Support!
I think there are some great utility options Exaction Squad can uniquely provide. The Malocator gives you another avenue to create crits (which benefit your whole team against a target), which can stack with the Mystic buff - and even without that, he can do a mission action or pick up for 1 less AP, which makes him great for objective play and is the only Ancillary Support operative with that ability available to Inquisition (plus, he has a 4/4 shotgun). The Revelatum gets a sweet pre-game move, a meme long-range pistol, and an ability to make an enemy count as engage for nearby allies. The neat thing there is that he can use that revealing ability and then run back, providing the Counts-as-Engage effect to your shooters further back since he doesn't have to stay within 6" of the target the whole time, just for using the ability at first. The Castigator is a solid all-rounder operative, with decent melee and shooting, some survivability with his 6+++ and ignore modifiers, and the potential to put someone under arrest and use them as a hostage (if you can survive the melee). The Marksman is solid, particularly once he is in position and able to use Take Aim, which gives him Balanced (and this can stack with Quarry!) 2 re-rolls plus the potential for Mystic/Malocator buffs can give very reliable damage/MW output. Subductors are great tanks and front-liners in general, and can get even crazier with the Interrogator/Tome-Skull auras.
Aside from these more unique operatives, taking Exaction Squad still gives you access to a Medic, and one with a 4/4 shotgun at that, as well as a Comms that is, while not quite on Kasrkin Vox level, still better than the Comms options in other Ancillary Supports due to not having a 6" range restriction. You do miss out on the abundance of AP weaponry that Vet Guard and Kasrkin can provide, but you can take a Grenade Launcher Gunner set to permanent Krak mode, essentially, and, combining that with the Marksman, can kind of imitate the Sniper+Gunner set ups of Vet Guard/Kasrkin.
@@Hunstadm super well thought out analysis, you've definitely convinced me of space cops!
This is a great format to do techs on killteam with.
One of the best Channels for killteam, tells you what you need, the way you understand and no stalling, perfect!
Setting a new standard for faction guides, love the details and presentation style, great vid dude 🎉
Im waiting with bated breath for your next guide because this one is so well done! Superb style and presentation!
Very well put together, I like the format and your deployment demonstration!
Man I hope this is the video you blow up with, this is great content!
haha cheers mate, appreciate it a lot!! Share it with your friends ;)
Super good format. Wish there was more content out there like this! Thanks!
Cheers!
This is amazingly well done. Genuinely the best faction guide for KT I have ever seen. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you cover Kommandos in the future.
Cheers mate!!
I found much success with taking at least 1 flamer in the ancilliary, (vet guard or sisters) for dealing with bunched up enemies, and using the multi melta on the servitor for sniping important targets. I found that most people just won't bunch up against the plasma cannon, making the higher single target damage more useful.
Wonderful breakdown.. Love the format.
Great video, thank you!
Now it's just a trivial matter of getting the Inquisition squad to build😅
'Ashes of Faith' sold out within seconds.
Was lucky enough to get to split it with someone, check your LGS! Found one at a shop.
@@VentrueMinis yeah, it's kinda problematic here in Ukraine :)
Yet I can't play that often, so I'll stick to breachers and Hand of the Archon for now.
Many thanks for your cool videos, really helps with ideas and how to play against other teams. Very helpful.
@@oleksii-kozak Slava ❤️
Yeah most of them seem to be being scalped on ebay for $100+. However Remaker makes a great proxy stl so I just 3D printed my inquisition kill team, and run them with my vostroyans as vet guard.
@@slimjim7411 , good choice :)
I actually have Darktide inspired models for my Blooded.
Just to clarify - is it 'Remaker' or "Redmaker" you're talking about?
Great guide! very helpful.
Another great video! Keep up the great content!
Super helpful as usual! I'm glad we like similar kill teams!! Hoping gw notice you and start sending you free stuff soon! 😅
Hah me too!
great guide. liked and subscribed for future guides.
Ty!!!!
With edit like this you will be big in no time!
Would be nice to get a revised version of this, like you did for Vet Guard 😊
Correction, if the debuff tome is active and a friendly is within 2" of that tome then if the friendly operative is shot or attacked, then its -1 for the attacker. So basically, the endurant moves up, shielding the interrogator so both the endurant and himself will be attacked by -1 dice for shooting :D
With all he changes, how would you modify your guide to Inquisition in 2024?
I think that against Nemesis claw the intense scrutiny can become very handy!
This is excellent. I'm sceptical that Quarry can bounce to a secondary target during a Blast attack though. Compare the FAQ about how Medic abilities work.
Agreed! I didn't update this here but in another comment - quarry would not bounce during blast because of the medic FAQ.
Great job my dude
What ancillary is best now post nerf in your opinion? :)
Hey! Thanks so much for the guide! I do have a question though... I'm gaming on a bit of a budget, and got my one box of agents for a really great price but that means i can only take ONE variant of all the operatives that have them unless i buy a second box (which is off the table right now) what 4 variants would you pick? (Im filling the rest of the team with vet guardsmen, which my friend is lending me from the octarius set we split, if that helps.)
Heyo, Dan Barton here.
I'm a fan of putting the attack buff on the leader. He can charge, and then be safe from shooting. Skull can't. You could bait a charge from your opponent there to set up a servitor blast, or just stab them with another guy, at +1 dice. That'll make the questkeeper reliable or the death world vet super reliable. And the defensive buff is best used where they're sitting safely behind cover, since it doesn't need visibility. The skull is actually way harder to get into place next to enemies. Personally I think you're under rating Kasrkin, since they are a bit tougher, but the super comms value is very high on Octarius and ITD due to the doors. Sisters are a bit meh, I guess they would make the reroll ploy good? But no Vratine faceplate... so.... yeah. And exaction do have a good place, against cults, goats, and void dancers, 3 very strong teams at the moment.
I'm not a fan of the questkeeper. Injury is not worth the extra wounds other melee operatives yield from having a form of damage negation.
Zealot frag is a combo? I wouldn't use it... but it's there.
Hexorcist... good against teams super reliant on rerolls I guess. Also goats if they're allowed to switch Frenzy off, but we'll have to wait for the FAQ.
Really like that analysis on the buff. Might try swapping it next game, it feels super awkward to set up but yours might be a bit easier. The value seems better with the attack buff on the skull but the set up is so much harder as you said.
Just a question, which kill team boxes do you need for this team? Other then that man i love how you layed this out it is very simple to follow!!
I'm not sure that Quarry can bounce mid-blast, since all blast attacks are supposed to happen simultaneously (there's an FAQ ruling about how this interacts with medics). I hope there's an FAQ about this to clarify!
Ohhhh interesting point!!!!!!! I bet you're right!!! FAQ would help on this for sure, ambiguous right now.
@@VentrueMinis I mean, we already get a free hit-or-crit on every attack out of a blasting plasma - at a certain point asking for additional rerolls is just greedy ;)
@@burp114 reading the wording the medic FAQ doesn't make it clear enough to say with Quarry. "Resolve all of the required shooting attacks, then if the MEDIC operative is not incapacitated, use that ability at the start of the Remove Incapacitated Operatives step." We'll have to see! EDIT: the Incapacitated Operatives step does make it clear!
Actually the Remove Incapacitated Operative step definitely makes it clear that Quarry doesn't bounce until blast ends since it only bounces when the operatives are removed, not just incapacitated. Ty for making me check! Description edited.
@@VentrueMinis good catch!
quarry can't bounce within the same blast attack. no models are removed until all blast attacks are resolved
Any plans for video about the cultists counterpart?
After the changes what is your plan for the agents now? Breachers?
100% Breachers atm.
Will you be updating this with the balance updates?
I still don´t und understand why the Death World Veteran has only one attack with the Knife. Like where and when do you use it most effective when fighting in combat? One attack is usually stacked against the odds of 3 save rolls. while the Polearm has statistically more chances of hitting at 4 attacks against 3 save rolls.
Is the Knife like a Hight Risk - High Reward kind of play?
I haven't played Vet Guardsmen, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with how the detonate works - could you please explain how you are planting the mine through the container, or shooting through it?
I recommend checking out my vet guard video! I have a more in-depth explanation there. The tl;Dr is that the mine's blast ignores terrain on open boards.
So are guardsmen still viable? If we pick sniper instead of plasma? Or breachers are still top?
I have never played killteam but picked up ashes of faith because i liked the way most of the models looked. Now an acquaintance has asked me to play so I thought I would throw together a team. Would you mind explaining an easy/inexpensive way to put together the ancillary support?
Use 3rd party models is my only suggestion!
Little question with feel no pain on hardened. You roll your classic defend dices and then you roll FNP dices after?
Yes: roll defense, then for every unsaved enemy hit / crit coming through, roll one d6 for every wound you would take.
yes! For the FNP, you roll a D6 for EVERY point of damage you take after rolling defense.
Thanks guys!
Don't even like the team but gotta pay tribute to the algorithm.
Yaaaas
I was thinking if you take Kasrkin with them. And take the recon trooper you get an extra scout. So double dash barricade your servitor fkr a deadly turn 1 shot if yiu gave the chance.
You can already get a second scouting option with a ploy. :)
@@VentrueMinis so does that cancel out a third scouting option?
Love your guide, but I have 1 question. Why only 1 gun servitor when you can take 2?
You can only take 2 if you run no ancillary support and take the other Inquisition operatives. You take 1 if you run any of the ancillary support.
understood, thanks
What you will change after nerfs?
Probably Arbites or Breachers only. I don't think I'll play this time after the nerfs. Going to call this video outdated.
@@VentrueMinis How much you think these nerfs change this team?
@@DodgethisCZ Completely changes the ancillary support, does nothing to the main choice. Pistolier and Servitor are the best AP2 operatives across every roster available both ancillary and mainline, so you just take those as your AP2. That means your ancillary has to be good without the AP2 options.
@@VentrueMinis hmm and what would you pick now exactly?
Will you be updating this with the balance updates?