TW200 and XT225 Ride Idaho mountain singletrack trails
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ต.ค. 2017
- TW200 and XT225 ride singletrack, doubletrack, gravel and asphalt roads on a loop.
In Part 1: We are riding a nice gravel road along and crossing. Eventually, it gets a little rougher and starts narrowing to two-track for a little while until it turns to a single-track motorcycle trail. As always, the camera makes it look more tame than actually experiencing it. It goes up fast, with loose and some larger rock. Immediately, we struggle with the first little steps/ledge area. I think we both felt like we could've made it easier by just gunning it, but that drop off to the left was very scary and intimidating.
With temperatures getting above 90 degrees, and being in full sun, the next small challenge got me hot and pooped and needing a short break before proceeding. Man-handling the TW wears you out quick! When SC realizes that we're going to be doing switchbacks up that hill, he looks back wondering how in the hell we can turn around. We can't. It's do or die time. When he gets to the top, you can see the climb for the switchback to the right. I think his plan was to stop and game plan. Plans don't always go as planned. Enjoy...
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That went from mild to wild real quick
That is not wild
Definitely upped the pucker factor really fast.
Videos never do justice to gnarly terrain. I'm thinking, "why is that guy slowing down?" Perspective shifts. "Oh, it's nearly vertical with loose rolling stone and a cliff beside you, that makes sense!"
Looks like a great ride! Lots of challenge and nobody died! I'm amazed you didn't lose your phone at 4:45.
Thanks for sharing!
Yup, it always looks easier from the couch. We made it and had fun. Thanks man.
Nice content. That Yamaha TW200 is so under rated! Not many bikes can take you to places where this will go. Very forgiving, and nearly indestructible.
They are so much fun to ride!
Love the name 😆
When I was a kid in the 90s, my brother and his friends would play Leisure Suit Larry
Nice going..makes you love having a smaller bike when you get into the tough stuff.
Idaho is awesome, thanks for posting this up for us
Idaho is the best but let’s keep that between you and me 😉
LMAO!!!! Oh Yea! First video I've seen where somebody is riding the kind of trails I've ridden here in Wyoming. Sheep and deer trails and totally washed out old roads. I always wondered if it was normal to fall over A LOT of times. It's tough riding through bowling balls! Getting stalled while high centered over a ditch or small stream where my feet where "feet" in the air above the ground was my favorite...NOT! I always wondered if I was doing it wrong. If I was, then I guess you guys where too. LOL. Yea, you can take a trail bike places you can't take anything else but a horse, you will just get pretty beat up.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching. I sold my bike. Doing this kind of riding in my mid 50s was just getting to be too much. Sure do miss it though.
Thanks for the vid!
Haha, thanks Bryan!
I ride in the Big Horns alot. Worse thing I rode was a sheep trail up the side of Crazy Woman canyon. Not doing that again. All loose rocks and very steep. I was glad I had put a bigger sprocket on the rear tire.
I just can't seem to quit riding my dirt bikes. I did get rid of the heavy ones, now I just ride my TW200. I am 76, almost 77, and I still love it. I wish that this darn SNOW would melt so I can go riding.
Wow, serious tight trails, no room to make a mistake !!!!
Yeah, we weren't sure what we were getting into. We planned the route by checking out the trail map. We didn't die, so it all worked out. Thanks for watching esmeben!
Man that looks so fun, I miss trail riding
So jealous. Looks like an awesome and gnarly place to ride. Your partner took their time at that tough spot and came through quite nicely. I didn't get the ending. Looked like a pretty treacherous move and little like Blair Witch ending, which was cool.
Wish I lived in a place like this. Gorgeous.
I remember those kinda trails in my teens .. you can learn a lot riding that kind of terrain
Wow, that's more suited to a llama or mountain goat. Nice job!
Thanks!
I can just smell the memories of northern idaho. The river, pine, spuce, blooming flora.
Rough stuff lots of hard work and loads of fun!
oh my god awesome video! cheers from palm springs!
Cool man! Looks fun!
Looks like quite the workout...haha... Idaho is beautiful !!!
Kinda scary, and we were hot because it was in the 90's that day. We made it out alive, so overall it was an awesome day!
Pitbike would do better here.
Vadim Kharichkov
Pit bike would leave you walking here.
Glad to see that my struggles on cliff side rocks are the same as others thanks
Great challenging ride 👍🏻
Bro folded mirrors down… it’s go time now!
Farking drop offs were spooky as shit..........I'd never do that. Hats off to those big ballz that do.
Yeah, the drops can get in your head! Thanks for watching.
Boy I was even scared for a minute...🧗🏻♂️
Looks like a good time! I ride my TW200 a lot out here in Colorado!
Right on!
OMG. Take my hat off to you two.
Please do a blog comparing the tw and xt. Being a shortie I've been considering an xt, but they're scarce in the UK.
ooooo-weee those are some sketchy trails, cheers!
good clutch control on that steep loose rocks hill
Pretty gnarly trail!
WOW, amazing place to ride
Really beautiful
Nice! Riding the Serow on a legit goat trail 😁
Wow looks like fun. I need to statt doing more adventurous stuff.
Try to keep speed through the tough stuff, it's scary but it's the best way. Momentum and balance is your friend. Otherwise great work!
Until you hit a rock and it throws you off.
@@xt225 No offense but do you know what you're talking about or are you just assuming? I've been racing competitively on hair scrambles and dual sport events for years. It seems counter intuitive but the faster you go, the bigger the rocks you can hit without being thrown around. The suspension is built for it and your momentum keeps you balanced and straight. Dont keep your grip too tight and let your hips flex with the bike. You can go 50+ mph over 5" rocks no problem, its crazy
Did he survive to make part 2?
Glorious adventure guys! Keep it up! Looking to buy the TW 200 and this pushed me a little closer. I have a 3 mile trek, similar rock but two track to my Fire Lookout in Wyoming. Looking for a little more adventure than the four-wheeler.
Thanks for watching, Roger. A lot of people think of the TW as a two wheel quad, or half a quad, so to speak. For all the TW info you could ever want, check us out over at the forum... www.tw200forum.com
You won't regret it Roger Lockwood! I love my little TW 200!
dude, those cliffs are nutty dangerous....
As an MTBer, my knee-jerk reaction was "what's the problem here?" then I realized that when I climb stuff like this, my only horsepower is my two legs... And my bike only weighs 24 lbs.
wow
amazing
Part 2? OMG! This is a rescue operation. 😲
There are 5 parts total for this full day ride. If you liked part 1, I hope you watch the rest. Thanks, Carol.
Trying to figure out if you are on Smith creek or lower big creek or upper Profile basin. Haven't been there in years. The Werdinhauf mine was a neat place. I saw my first wolf there in 1972 and 2 wolverines
I watched this once a while back but had to revisit it since I just added a pair of XT225s to the stable. It will be fun to see how they compare to the TWs on the trails.
Cool! I look forward to your comparison. People ask me that all of the time, but I don't ride the XT on the trails. It is set up for my buddy with aftermarket suspension. He is 6'1", I am 5'5".
What a great and honest video lol
very cool. I am looking for a tw200 used for cheap to restore to glory.
thats a scary cliff!
Looks like some tough riding
TW for the Win !!!!!
Nice!!!
Молодцы!!!! Я по такой тропе с обрывом не рискнула бы. Больше по лесу или за город на озеро на своей,, девочке,, езжу.
Looks like you needed the bunny run. Or the flower girl trail. Meaning , "you did this all wrong. " .
BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK YOUR GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE THE CLUTCH YIKES!
Two bikes I'm interested in. Be interested to know your thoughts. That looked like it was getting pretty gnarly. It was, probably, pretty steep but, I think, the GoPro flattens it out somewhat. Where's Bret Takcs when you need him!!
Sorry I just stumbled across this and new to the channel. First off that scenery is beautiful and that track is gnarly. But did you attack that hill with a prosthetic leg? I thought I saw a glimps after you laid it down. If I am incorrect I apologise but if I’m right props to you bro you tackled this challenge like a f@#!ing boss!!!
what kind of folding mirrors are these? @ 5:07 those are neat. thinking of getting these when i get my xt225.
They are KTM folding mirrors.
@@LeisureTimeLarry sweet thnx :D
What sprcket combination are you using?
13/54 on the TW200, 14/50 is stock. 13/45 on the Xt225, 15/45 is stock.
Looks fun
It was! Thanks for watching.
Bad Shxx can happen anywhere, even the Back yard. I think you should always ride with a bud on Rough trails. Just my opinion !
When in doubt, let some air out.
Not a great idea with typical rims without bead locks. I highly doubt those bikes have bead locks.
for better traction air down the tires for the rough stuff
I can see this happening to me in the future. My friend just picked up a Gen 1 KLR650, I just put 500 on a new TW whenever they get put out to the dealerships. We both have street skills but he's never really ridden off road. Me I beasted a DR650 all over the place, many places I should not of. But I don't like myself so I took it on single track like that.
Have you tried airing down the Dubs tires, does it help? Aside from they being DEATHWINGS.
The stock rear tire has always been enough for me. The front is fine for pavement, but should be swapped for off-road in my opinion. I went with the trials type tread of the Shinko 241. The Pirelli MT21 is similar. Yeah, I air down to about 10-12 in the front and 8-10 in the rear off-road. It helps a bunch.
I'm ashamed to say that I haven't done much riding on my TW200. Mostly on grassy hilly fields, and somewhat hilly gravel roads. I have a deathwing front tire and I haven't had reason to change it. So maybe if I were a faster rider, It would be a problem. But I do better on my TW200 on a steep gravel road than I do on my XT225, for whatever that's worth.
Tough terrain, stay standing on the pegs, get in lower gear and keep the power on.
Cuando la motora va subiendo en u a cuesta como esa es recomendable ponerla en 1ra, ósea en el primer cambio. Si no nunca subirá.
i wounder whats have more power xt or tw? and more relible?
TF, the XT has more power for sure because it's engine is 25cc bigger, and the bike is about 40 pounds lighter than the TW. The weight difference is mostly due to the larger tires and steel wheels on teh TW vs. the skinny tires and aluminum wheel on the XT. Both are Yamaha and very reliable. They are just different, and they both have pluses and minuses depending on the terrain and speed desired. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@LeisureTimeLarry I concur as I've ridden both but only own XTs now for my short guy purposes...
nice discover pass you did a lot of falling that day, TW200 fall over at all?
I don't think so.
Looked like he was aiming for that rock at 4:04...
Lots of arm chair dirt bike riders in this comment section.
Cool video, and as usual I’m sure the video doesn’t do the challenge justice.
Thanks for that.
bro going up looks tough, but going down would scare the shit out of me.
It's very easy to gain speed and momentum going down a steep elevation like that, and that bike is not gonna stop on those lose rocks believe you me when I say that.
also, that drop off to the left does not look pleasant.
So many places to gold pan...
this trail is like my dream to take my XR650 on
Just a wee bit of exposure
Fuck the ending there. Yowzerz. Nice ride.
Did you change your rear sprocket? I put a bigger one on the back tire. Really helps climbing. And for anyone who doesn't know Idaho is steep terrain!!! Not an easy trail. I think most people don't know about riding in the mountains. Totally different.
Yes, both bikes were geared down. Might not seem like it, but the camera flatten things out. Thanks for watching!
Your first mistake was stopping. Momentum is everything.
Agreed.
What sprockets were you running?
13-54 on the TW200. 14-50 is stock.
I'm running 13/45 on the XT225. 15/45 is stock
SKC Did you have enough grunt to climb the steep rocky stuff?
I think it is great for the steep stuff. You can easily get the front wheel up over obstacles in first and second while still having a top speed of 60-65
That's steep but looks like the little tdub can the terrain
Yup, the little tdub that could. Thanks for watching Carlos!
TDubs Rock......Nice Vid.
Yeah! Thanks for watching.
Lack of skills or lack of power?
Tw 200 can definitely do more than that🔥. Its the rider who is weak. Not the bike!!💔
Have fun you guys ! You have a long walk in front of ya...lol
We had some challenges, but we made the loop just fine. It was a fun day!
Ridiculous chances these guys are taking. How is aid supposed to reach them if there's a serious injury?
Thanks for your concern. There is risk, for sure. We do try to be responsible. For example, we wear a lot of protective padding and gear, we both have first aid training, we carry a first aid kit that goes beyond band-aids, we have both a Personal Locator Beacon and an In-Reach device, and we purchase memberships for additional helicopter insurance.
Time to air down boys
We were aired down & geared down. We're just old guys on trail bikes trying to tackle an unfamiliar Idaho singletrack with a buttpuckering steep dropoff . ;p We made it eventually, and had a fun day.
It was at this point, he thought, maybe I should turn the mirrors down, and out of the way 😂😂😂.
Where's part 2 please?
There are 5 parts to this ride you can find in a playlist on my channel. Thanks for watching.
Wow that is all I can say
Just wondering if you are related to Leisure Suit Larry. ..asking for a friend.
I remember my first trail ride. These guys would have died learning on a rm400 like I did.
You need Rokons
3:00 momentum would have worked wonders
Mainly I agree. But there's always that big hit to throw you over the side (of the mountain in this case).
you gotta learn how to find 1st gear for the rough stuff.
At about 2:30 I would have said yeeeaaah, NO. Airlift my bike and send me a donkey! Honestly though, which one do you guys think is better for this terrain? I have both and plan to make a TW225 6spd.
People ask me to compare the two bikes frequently. The truth is, we don't ride each other's bikes. I ride the TW200. I ride it because I have a 25.5" inseam. I like riding it. I have fun, and I think it suits me well. I post the footage so folks can decide on their own. Good luck with the build!
@@LeisureTimeLarrythis video just happened to come back into my feed so I clicked on it. But TH-cam didn't notify me that you had responded. Most guys don't know their true inseam they just look at the tag on the pants they happen to wear and mistakenly think they have a longer inseam than they do. I'm only 5'3 so all my pants go to the seamstress and she cuts the inseam between 25.5 to 27 depending on the rise of the pants. Which brings me to my next point which is that most guys wear the belt or waist of their pants close to the top of their hips. So it turns out that is a more consistent measurement because the inseam is affected by the length of the zipper and different pants have different zipper lengths. I just checked three pairs of jeans, zippers were 5.25", 6", and 7." The inseams measured from 25.25" to 26.5." But the outseams were right at 36." Making that a more practical measurement. Didn't expect that for a response, did you? 😁
If you had a Rokon…..
Those are both wonderful bikes, but they are not designed for that kind of riding. I noticed a Clarke tank on the XT. Got to be careful with those. I destroyed one when I dropped the bike on a rock. Not only was it very expensive, but it could have been a disaster. I lost all my gas. Fortunately a couple of hours later some more riders came along and one towed me out. I'm sure it ruined his day, but he wouldn't take a penny for it. Off road riders are good people. (most of them)
What would you have ridden?
So were you breaking the law by riding behind that gate?
Nope. The gate marks the end of the forest service road and the start of the singletrack trail. The gate is meant to prevent four wheeled vehicles from continuing.
@@LeisureTimeLarry I couldn't see the signs. Lived on Ironside mountain in Oregon for a little while, the rangers there were a presence, that's all I'll say. Routine harassment....
@@elonmust7470 10-4
Air down, and do something with your gear ratio, itll make it way easier
F that. It’s time to mutiny and head back lol
I thought about it! After that first scary hill, the rest of the day was pretty epic which can be seen in the 4 other parts.
You "high side" on that trail and I'd say you're pretty much scalded!
Yeah, thanks for noticing. That's why we're being somewhat cautious on the new to us trail. Take care.
I'll take my XT over the TW any day... I've ridden both, own 2 of them... I see the similarities from both dual sports, even if one is classified differently... and parts interchange/exchange are similar.
I bought a new 2007 XT225 and put 33,000 miles on it. Been out of bikes for years. Kind of getting the bug. The TW looks interesting but I loved my XT. I would want an older 225 rather than the newer 250’s. To me, Yamaha killed the bike when they switched it.
@@dennisconrad6124the EFI was an upgrade, but with the downgrade to 5 spds from 6, I decided to keep the 225.
@@papatorr3669 I myself have never been a fan of EFI on something like a XT225. But I totally agree. Dropping it down to a 5 speed was a big mistake. I always figured the TW should be a 6 speed.
@@dennisconrad6124 I have a TW200 and an extra XT 225 and if I can swing it I plan to convert it to a TW225 6-speed transmission this winter
@@papatorr3669 If you do that, and that XT has a title to it, the frame with a title I think is still worth a fair amount of money.
wow that is sketchy
Looks like a good place for a "Rokon"!
My 86 Honda fatcat (200cc) would destroy that hill4:00 , but the Yamaha’s are way faster , gotta get me a tw 👍🏼
Tw 200s are awesome but xt225 a lil more road friendly ... imo ..