I’ve been saying it for years. He was dirty. Look at how many young women he felt up and kissed on TV. And that was in front of his wife! Now imagine him off camera. Remember when Kane got it on with a dead girl in a casket? Who thought that was entertaining and a good idea? I watched on an off for a few decades and luckily I missed when that happened. I had no idea that happened until a few years ago on some wrestling YT channel. Vince has been sick in the head for decades.
@@vincesmith2499He's not a rapist. At least not a confirmed one. He literally had this disgusting sex with the woman on terms agreed by both parties. She's a victim of fraud and nothing more. She agreed to all of it for a certain amount of money that Vince underpaid. She's just as much of a freak.
@@vincesmith2499I did. Dude always struck me as a rapist and closet gay for big sweaty oiled men. I don’t care what anyone says. He wanted to fuck with another dude there with him. Shits a tad gay, my guy. I’m not surprised AT ALL over any of this. I’m shocked it took so damn long to come out though.
Don't forget all the women who he ordered to kiss his ass on TV and that time when Trish Stratus was forced to bark like a dog and strip to her underwear on RAW.
I definitely beleive he did many of the things,but, from what many said about Vince, he was kinda a germiphobe. So some of the things to me don't match up.i feel sorry for this girl but also if she embellished some things,isn't that wrong also. Now that AI is being pushed, it's hard for me to beleive text messages or whatever. Also, Vince supported Trump, the left who runs the media go after anyone who supports Trump. Is it also political??. I'm not saying Vince is innocent of all of this. But some of it don't jive, I feel sorry for Vince's wife,children and grandchildren who have to endure this. Also , I do feel sorry for the woman, even though she could have said " no" at any time. The employees who knew this should be fired. That includes HHH, the office ppl, the talent. But why would Vince have her sign a NDA and turn around and text all the people he did and share all this stuff. Money and power can do this to anyone, no matter race,gender,political status , republican,democrat,Christian, Jewish, Muslim, don't matter. I just hope that they get all the sex trafficers,ppl on Epstiens plane, rapists...all of them
I have heard one or two people bring it up, but I am surprised more people haven't brought up the "Kiss My Ass" club. While it was a storyline, Vince made certain employees kiss his ass on national television. Those employees were forced to do it. What about those people?
What have people known about Vince for years: 1. Control freak. Everything needs to be his way to the point he gets mad about sneezing 2. Loves toilet humor jokes. Most juvenile humor was there to appeal to him. Kinda goes along with fecal stuff 3. Big loyalty to guys like Kevin Dunn, John Lauranitis, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes. 1 of those 4 have been named and at least one other has been implied in this stuff 4. Vince didn't pay royalties to talent till he was forced by the government, doesn't even seem to care if his former talent can make a living after they leave since he owns everything. Wouldn't even leave them keep their name but unlike an actor doesn't believe in credits in shows showing their real name. 5. Laid people off during Covid during record profits. Another sign of disregard for others. 6. Stiffed people who worked for the XFL after they closed. Only believes contracts are one way. Also supposedly stiffed other promoters after agreeing to deals 7. Pushed the independent contractor to avoid benefits but restricts people like an employer
@@johndalessandro6433 He's accused of wanting to sleep with Janel Grant as part of his new contract with WWE, and he quite possibly did. He also allegedly looked at pee videos of her.
For the question "why didn't she just walk out"... I think that she was heavily manipulated into doing these things and also financially dependent on the situation.
Had she just walked out Vince would have blacklisted her and made her out to seem like some sort of nutjob. He also had pictures and videos, so he could easily blackmail her. That's coercion. Vince holds grudges toward people who he feels have wronged him, so it really wasn't that easy to just walk away. Once you are blacklisted or get a negative reputation by an employer it impacts your life harshly. Reading the text messages it's made clear early she did not like the arrangement especially once her body began to show signs of abuse.
@@dustin6528 You think the police would have done anything toward a billionaire like Vince? That's wishful thinking there. Vince is the one that put himself in this position. If this plays out like most people think it would she'll end up getting a lot more than the money he promised him.
9:30 The fact that he owns a full porn catalogue of content she sent him , this could have been the threat that kept her from just up and leaving. He claimed to be showing it all over ( more than he actually was , was a control isolation measure ) But he could leak them online if he didn't like how she left.
Gotta love how all of this comes out…. So NOW these people start saying “ oh yeah! We saw it, felt it or were creeped out etc!” …yet went back to work for said person multiple times. Lol
The rumor is Vince quit paying her because the boss of TKO cut off all payments for stuff like that as they were considered expenses. And Ari Whats-his-Name didn’t want that money spent. With technology being what it is these days, people are so damn stupid texting this stuff to each other. If the other person all of the sudden decides to out you, you’re screwed. And you see text messages as evidence over and over and over again.
The only thing that makes sense is if Vince is a huge idiot. Even if TKO cut off payments, Vince has more then enough personally to pay it off, it was $2 million. Others have said that Vince has a history of getting out of contracts when he can and he's done it alot to screw people over. He probably saw this as a contract being broken and so didn't owe her the money anymore. But given the subject matter he should have just paid anyways.
Yeah man, I always thought that was super uncomfortable. Found out about it well afterward. Kinda didn't care about wrestling after the late 80's, and I gotta admit i find this whole story delicious.
If he made you uncomfortable then why go back to WWE previously 2-3 times? You say that now but when that check was clearing you didn’t feel uncomfortable then, you didn’t say he made you uncomfortable before all this happen, click bait type of stuff
He's not the only one who looked the other way when it comes to that money Dutch mantell made. But you are right why come back if Vince made him uncomfortable.
Gotta make a living. WWE probably paid a lot more than TNA. Just because you think your boss is weird and there maybe something off about him doesn't necessarily mean you're just going to up and quit.
@@vincesmith2499 Lord Alfred sexually assaulted Roddy Piper. Sunny and Chyna went into p0rn. Chyna was heartbroken by HHH after he cheated with Stephanie. Sunny was involved with HBK while dating Candido still. Sable sued in 1999 for sexual harassment and being forced into posing nude on tv. Moolah pimped women out. Owen died in the ring after opposing a storyline where he slept with Debra. Nailz strangled Vince backstage after claiming he was sexually assaulted . Patterson, Garvin and Phillips all resigned after the 1992 ring boy scandal. I'm sure there are plenty of others.
He will no doubt offer her an exorbitant amount of money not to go to trial, (much more than the 3 million he originally was to give her to stay quiet) . I hope she declines and takes this to court and it all comes out. Just look at recent headlines about another powerful man having to pay 83 million after civil proceedings. A jury may find him liable for an amount, that would make that 83 million look like chicken feed. Remember, she isn't only suing Vince, but the WWE company as well.
@@christerry1611 I take it you would rather we all ignore the downfall of the most powerful figure in wrestling ? A guy many people always knew was a trash human being ?
What I want to know is did vince really text like a 12 year old? Also something Dutch talked about that I thought was interesting- about the bad feeling he would have around vince. Uncomfortable feelings. I’ve heard and read about many people describing that about someone who was demonically possessed. I mean could a normal human say and do that stuff to somebody else? I do t think so. We knew he was dirty for decades when he was feeling up and kissing younger women on tv and in front of his wife. Imagine what he did off camera. Stuff like this? Worse?
P.S. The crazy part 14:27 that your talking about the NDA she signed Vince screwed up and went against the agreement by not paying her now when she takes it to court she is gonna try and get the NDA with them to be avoid to fully open up about what happened. And it would be wise for anyone who was involved to shut their mouth and lawyer up and not answer any question that could lead to charges punishable by imprisonment ranging from 10 years to a life sentence for sex-trafficking if found guilty hell if this goes to trial and she gets that NDA voided they're all screwed if there is enough evidence to go criminal charges.
People interested on this subject could read Rick Ross's book on cults. Abusive relationships like this are sometimes treated as a cult of one in interventions. One aspect of destructive cuts is that the cult member often becomes financially dependent on the cult. There's also the peer pressure from the other cult members upon the victim to get them to conform to the cult views. It can provide answers to questions such as: "Why didn't she leave".
The man who reportedly loved poop jokes, has become one. The easiest one is when someone’s having a bad day you tell them “At least Vince didn’t shit on you.”
Sportskeeda always has the worst clickbait articles. Most are just wild speculation. I do not accept them as any form of legitimate journalism. I misclicked and will not be back.
@@for111 uhh yeah, he’s like one of the single deadliest human beings on planet earth. What’s your point? She tried desperately to break up with him, and the junk!e gear head Iunatic BROKE INTO HER HOME. A deal was brokered, and they were married. What don’t you get about how all of these people are sick? This was a woman who filed a secksual lawsuit against mac mahon jr lmao
I guess dark cloud is a nice way of saying apocalyptic storm! I'm not even 5 pages into the 67 page document, and I'm already tempted to put my fist through my laptop monitor!
Hunter is being unfairly criticized for the press conference responses. Based on the fact that he is the full on head of creative I cannot imagine that from the time the documents were released and the rumble I'm almost certain that he was full on pedal to the metal to get the rumble to go off without incident to keep the wrestlers connected to the goal and staying on track for the big weekend. I would assume that others that would typically help with the planning and such were on damage control.
@garymardle2120 that's what I've been saying. You can't expect him to say anything substantial about the ongoing investigation into Vince. He should focus on the good things in the company at this point
14:10 Dutch ... You'd know all of this if you read the lawsuit. Can't believe so many people are doing discussion videos without reading the whole lawsuit. To be Fair , Dutch has some better than most
How many more women will come out sayin similar events? This wss just the first woman to come out, which should motivate the other women to come forward, making the case stronger.
They are allegations, this isn’t a 3rd world country, we have laws that says innocent until proven guilty by a court of law, no the emotions of individuals with biases, whether you like it or not that’s how it is, she did partake in these acts, no one forced her, she was promised a job and $3 million dollars, he only paid her $1 million and starting ignoring her, she was paid for her services, she isn’t innocent
I agree with Dutch. Why don’t you just leave? Yes her parents passed on and she was in need of a job. But to stay in the same building as Vince! How much are you really “struggling”? To speak for the majority of us we can’t afford to stay in the same building as a BILLIONAIRE! I’m not taking the side of Vince by no means. But this is coming on the heals of the merger and The Rock being on the board. Why not tell your story last year or when it actually happened? My opinion she is telling the story because Vince stopped paying. Let’s be rational adults about this. Separate the fandom from reality. If this is proven in court than she deserves everything penny.
Regarding The Mann Act, I haven't heard that mentioned since the last time I saw Smokey and the Bandit where Sheriff B. Justice accused the Bandit of violating that law taking the runaway bride across state lines. Nowadays with Trafficking being such an overlooked and disregarded topic, that little Hollywood treatment of the issue seems to contribute heavily towards Society's habit of tolerance where such activity is concerned
Triple H should be cut a little slack when it comes to Vince. Vince is his Father in Law and also the Grandfather to his kids I am sure this is a very sensitive and personal time for him and the whole family....
yeah exactly. but instead they ask him a question about it, knowing he can only give them a bullshit answer. it wasnt the right bullshit answer so now they are attacking him. fn pests.
"I can't imagine any of the wrestlers doing this." Don't suppose you've taken any 14-hour plane rides recently, huh, Dutch? WWE is dead. If, somehow, the company manages to crawl out from under McMahon, it will either be a total shell of its former self, or eradicated by Emanuel and replaced with something completely new. Rita Chatterton, Tom Cole...let's see, who else? The woman who worked at the spa, _ASHLEY MASSARO,_ Torrie Wilson, and now Janel Grant (and the other women from a couple of years ago)... Then you have all the creepy storylines over the years: Katie Vick, the proposed storyline where Vince was Stephanie's baby's daddy, Trish Stratus, Sable... it's so, so, _so_ gross. Anyone heard from Candice Michelle recently? I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that this case gets elevated from civil to criminal PDQ because _Vince has a history._ Him and Donald Trump are like two peas in a fucking pod, where they do shady shit for so long and manage to wriggle through the fingers of prosecutors for _YEARS,_ and now they're at a stage in their life where they have all this money and all this power and all this ego that they really do think they're untouchable. Vince's only saving grace at this point would be for him to plead not guilty by reason of insanity and then be remanded to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his days (or if Donald Trump gets re-elected in November and ultimately pardons McMahon). The only trouble is that there isn't a big enough neck brace in the world that Vince could wear that would give him sympathy with any reasonable-minded jury. Personally, I hope Vince rots in jail. Not just because of what he did (allegedly) to Janel Grant, but for all the times he turned a blind eye to other... _indiscretions_ made by others in his employ (Pat Patterson, Mel Phillips) or engaging in heinous acts himself...allegedly. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
It is always like the tip of the iceberg analogy...1/10th is visible,but 9/10ths is buried or unknown.THIS WHOLE CASE OR SITUATION COULD DRAG ON FOR A REAL LONG TIME.AND AT THE VERY END THE VICTIM'S WILL NEVER BE FULLY COMPENSATED.
Dutch Mantell isn't a pimple on Vince Mcmahon's ass. His opinion is as worthless as mine. Mcmahon will buy his way out of this situation for a certain figure of money. WTF is $15M to even reach $50M subtracting from $2.8B? Vince is out because he sold his stock. This will be resolved civilly, trust. A big part of me however hopes this costs Vince $1.4B to Linda if true.
Not to sound inconsiderate or to put blame on Janel Grant. But how the hell is she broke if she lives in the same building as Vince McMahon?!? Doesn’t make sense Even if it was her parents money, once her parents died, was there not anything left behind for her? Just weird After for the record, Triple H didn’t say “no comment”. He said he didn’t read the 67 page lawsuit.
I think it will be the rock v reigns for the wwe title and cody vs Rollins both on the 1st night also for the world title Reigns and cody both winning and that will set up night 2 reigns v cody for the undisputed world title. That will give them wwe an excuse also to bin the world title which is not relevant anymore. With added intrigue due to rock wanting cody to win and seth wanting Roman to win due to the previous nights results and history. And rock and seth will intervene in that cody reigns match with cody finally winning and ending his story. Also that sets up further storylines further down the line. Simples.
Not sure. But, she isn’t a minor. She was psychologically tortured, however, how do underlings that have an inkling of what’s going on report this to anyone? There isn’t mandated reporting for this type of stuff. She is of age. Going after people working at titan towers is a bit harsh. Vince is the culprit! He must be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law! Beyond that, he destroyed his legacy. His poor grandkids have to now hear about how deviant this monster was to other people.
I believe she was just as guilty because Ms. Grant is a grown woman. She couldve said no and simply left the job. Her needing the money isnt a valid excuse. If a male bank robber said "I only did it because I needed the money....." Do you think the judge would give him a break? No. Im not defending what Mcmahon did but Im also not defending Ms. Grant because she did this for 2 years. The only reason why she has a case is because of that NDA document that she agreed to and Vince didnt fulfill his part of the agreement.
23:52 what is the point? you know he cant talk about it. you know he can only give you a bullshit answer, like you said it yourself. so what is the point of asking him a question about it? fact is this. no matter what he said, there would be people bashing him for it and knowing how easily people can get you canceled for saying the wrong word, its best for him to avoid saying anything. you are focusing on him and bashing him for what he said instead of leaving the guy alone. can you imagine how this is for him when Vince is Stephanies father and also grandfather to their kids. Im more annoyed at guys like you than him. "hey we are gonna ask you a question and we expect you to give us the right bullshit answer" what the fuck is that?
I think Everyone is forgetting about the sexual allegations Sable made… who later went back to WWE and married to Brock Lesner.. I believe there was a settlement agreement over that as well..
"Why did she just leave?" Who cares. Vince McMahon felt the need to pay her to keep quiet, that says enough right there. Then he didn't follow through with his payment, after receiving the biggest payoff of his life, no less. That alone is enough reason to say "Fuck him!" He made his bed.
"These idiots already made up his minds i guess." Your command of the English language illustrates your own personal idiocy. The texts messages included with the lawsuit are what implicates McMahon's guilt, but I'm probably using words that are too big for you to comprehend, so instead, I'll just say that it takes an idiot to know one.
Playing devils advocate can he say someone tampered with his cell phone, like can he say someone else had his phone at some point, or are the text messages on going for a long time period ??
This case is so gross and are warned before you read the files "EXTREMELY GRAPHIC THAT DEAL WITH THINGS OF SEXUAL NATURE" it's not even funny when you read it all and the icing on the cake is she has all the proof screen shots, dates, times and locations and also people who saw it go on and other victims we can a assume too that we don't even know or still gonna be coming out of the wood work. This is scary and sick to not only have one person but a group of people involved.
Her suing Vince for unpaid prostitution is like me suing my drug dealer for shorting me on Crack. Unless prostitution is legalized, I don't see her case whatsoever.
That’s not how business works in a public traded company. If you are too dumb to know that this girl was a liability from past trauma you deserve all the heat that comes your way. This is not the mailroom clerk and the secretary having a quickie in the copier room this is the head of the corporation. Vince was running this like a indoor Hooker track
Dutch hilarious he says no wonder Linda got away from him😂😂😂she knew everything. No way that much money in that business and she doesn't have spies or have the personal knowledge. Give me a brake😂😂😂
Does Vince have brain damage? I'm just trying to think of a logical explanation for his behavior plus the stupidity of texting her and the double stupidity of not paying her the agreed amount for the NDA.
I think that’s definitely a factor. He could easily have dementia symptoms at his age, even if he didn’t have a history of head trauma and drug use, which he does.
Vince, just looks bad. You sensed the demon in him. When I get around demons I know because, my voice changes, I can't think straight, I get jittery, I get mad when I start feeling like that because I know what's going on. I left my job 2 weeks ago because of this too. I don't have time to play games at work. I went to work to only do my job, but they couldn't let me work. They had to get in thier 2 cents. I've forgotten more things in life than those people have learned. Nobody likes learning now, if you try to help them, they take it wrong. They just google it. Lol
Bullshit Sid... HE PAID for her "services". She isn't an invalid, she's not mentally handicapped. She CHOSE to stick around. There is absolutely nothing intimidating about Vince McMahon, give me a break!!
I've been thinking about this case. And I consider how many people Vince layed off without much warning. How many times has Vince laid off a wrestler who is seemingly in his/her prime. For example, Bray Wyatt (RIP), who still had a few more good runs left in him and fans were far from being tired of his character. Fans would have been happy seeing him square off with a few more baby faces in the company or maybe a face turn in the same vein as Undertaker. My point is, do you think these surprise lay offs might have something to do with what was going on backstage? Maybe guys like Bray refused to take part in these "business ventures"?
I’ve been saying it for years. He was dirty. Look at how many young women he felt up and kissed on TV. And that was in front of his wife! Now imagine him off camera.
Remember when Kane got it on with a dead girl in a casket? Who thought that was entertaining and a good idea? I watched on an off for a few decades and luckily I missed when that happened. I had no idea that happened until a few years ago on some wrestling YT channel.
Vince has been sick in the head for decades.
I guess HHH’s mask was so good that you actually thought Kane was the one caught on tape?
I always figured Vince was a serial adulterer, but I didn't have him pegged as a rapist, even with the Rita Chatterton story.
@@vincesmith2499He's not a rapist. At least not a confirmed one. He literally had this disgusting sex with the woman on terms agreed by both parties. She's a victim of fraud and nothing more. She agreed to all of it for a certain amount of money that Vince underpaid. She's just as much of a freak.
@@vincesmith2499I did. Dude always struck me as a rapist and closet gay for big sweaty oiled men.
I don’t care what anyone says. He wanted to fuck with another dude there with him. Shits a tad gay, my guy. I’m not surprised AT ALL over any of this. I’m shocked it took so damn long to come out though.
Don't forget all the women who he ordered to kiss his ass on TV and that time when Trish Stratus was forced to bark like a dog and strip to her underwear on RAW.
I’ve been watching wrestling since 1983, none of this is a shock. We all heard the stories.
Exactly. Anyone that has followed wrestling. I've been following it in some capacity since 89 and I wasn't shocked at all. Vince is a known scumbag
U heard the stories of Jacqueline Moore getting a women's title run because certain favors made to Vinnie mac
@@HOODKINGSofficial if that did happen it wouldn’t shock me. I’m almost positive Vince hit at least 75% of the divas who walked through that door.
@@-sdot83 he definitely did
I definitely beleive he did many of the things,but, from what many said about Vince, he was kinda a germiphobe. So some of the things to me don't match up.i feel sorry for this girl but also if she embellished some things,isn't that wrong also. Now that AI is being pushed, it's hard for me to beleive text messages or whatever. Also, Vince supported Trump, the left who runs the media go after anyone who supports Trump. Is it also political??. I'm not saying Vince is innocent of all of this. But some of it don't jive, I feel sorry for Vince's wife,children and grandchildren who have to endure this. Also , I do feel sorry for the woman, even though she could have said " no" at any time. The employees who knew this should be fired. That includes HHH, the office ppl, the talent. But why would Vince have her sign a NDA and turn around and text all the people he did and share all this stuff. Money and power can do this to anyone, no matter race,gender,political status , republican,democrat,Christian, Jewish, Muslim, don't matter. I just hope that they get all the sex trafficers,ppl on Epstiens plane, rapists...all of them
I have heard one or two people bring it up, but I am surprised more people haven't brought up the "Kiss My Ass" club. While it was a storyline, Vince made certain employees kiss his ass on national television. Those employees were forced to do it. What about those people?
They should've filed sexual harassment lawsuit and refused to do so. Thank God, I stopped watching wrestling around 1990/1991.
@@E.C.2 yep attitude era ruined things. That is not wrestling that is pure garbage.
What have people known about Vince for years:
1. Control freak. Everything needs to be his way to the point he gets mad about sneezing
2. Loves toilet humor jokes. Most juvenile humor was there to appeal to him. Kinda goes along with fecal stuff
3. Big loyalty to guys like Kevin Dunn, John Lauranitis, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes. 1 of those 4 have been named and at least one other has been implied in this stuff
4. Vince didn't pay royalties to talent till he was forced by the government, doesn't even seem to care if his former talent can make a living after they leave since he owns everything. Wouldn't even leave them keep their name but unlike an actor doesn't believe in credits in shows showing their real name.
5. Laid people off during Covid during record profits. Another sign of disregard for others.
6. Stiffed people who worked for the XFL after they closed. Only believes contracts are one way. Also supposedly stiffed other promoters after agreeing to deals
7. Pushed the independent contractor to avoid benefits but restricts people like an employer
Great points. And that's only a small snippet of this dude's gargantuan list of transgressions over the decades.
He also apparently thinks people with disabilities or speech impediments is funny.
Facts. 🤔
Vince McMahon is a sociopath, fact!
No one close to Vince has ever confirmed that he got mad at people sneezing.
DUTCH MENTIONED THE FEELING OF BEIGN AROUND VINCE, REMINDED ME OF HIS TAKE , WHEN BRUISER BRODY WAS UNALIVED
Unalived?, you mean killed.
I sure as hell pray this becomes a criminal trial
To Dutch and anyone else asking why she “didn’t just leave,” probably because-Vince is fucking crazy so she was afraid if him.
She liked that money though
Exactly, victims don't just leave. It's not that easy.
I think we've seen the last of Brock Lesnar in WWE.
Good, he just as toxic as Vince
Yeah....he's a sorryass also
What did Brock do?? or accused of doing? We have to remember , innocent until proven guilty
@@johndalessandro6433 That's only in a court of law, not in employment.
@@johndalessandro6433 He's accused of wanting to sleep with Janel Grant as part of his new contract with WWE, and he quite possibly did. He also allegedly looked at pee videos of her.
For the question "why didn't she just walk out"... I think that she was heavily manipulated into doing these things and also financially dependent on the situation.
But if she had quit, she'd have been no worse off than she had been before Vince hired her. She couldn't get a job sonewhere else?
I'm more disturbed by the alleged rape than the pimping her out. It seems to me she was okay with that.
Had she just walked out Vince would have blacklisted her and made her out to seem like some sort of nutjob. He also had pictures and videos, so he could easily blackmail her. That's coercion. Vince holds grudges toward people who he feels have wronged him, so it really wasn't that easy to just walk away. Once you are blacklisted or get a negative reputation by an employer it impacts your life harshly. Reading the text messages it's made clear early she did not like the arrangement especially once her body began to show signs of abuse.
@@dustin6528 You think the police would have done anything toward a billionaire like Vince? That's wishful thinking there. Vince is the one that put himself in this position. If this plays out like most people think it would she'll end up getting a lot more than the money he promised him.
If she walked out she could not blackmail him later
Don't be surprised if John Laurinaitis is flipped and offered a plea deal in exchange for his testimony.
9:30
The fact that he owns a full porn catalogue of content she sent him , this could have been the threat that kept her from just up and leaving.
He claimed to be showing it all over ( more than he actually was , was a control isolation measure )
But he could leak them online if he didn't like how she left.
If she were a victim she wouldn't be sending him content to even build a "catalogue". You're a simp.
Nice try, Vince.
Great show! Dutch definitely has a good intuition to be able to pick up on those bad vibes. Dutch strikes me as a good man with integrity
Iamwith you with that comment. Dutch strikes me as a good msn with integrity.
Gotta love how all of this comes out…. So NOW these people start saying “ oh yeah! We saw it, felt it or were creeped out etc!” …yet went back to work for said person multiple times. Lol
Who else you going to work for?
@@E.C.2 somewhere without rapists? Lol
The rumor is Vince quit paying her because the boss of TKO cut off all payments for stuff like that as they were considered expenses. And Ari Whats-his-Name didn’t want that money spent. With technology being what it is these days, people are so damn stupid texting this stuff to each other. If the other person all of the sudden decides to out you, you’re screwed. And you see text messages as evidence over and over and over again.
That is why you get a burner phone. So much for Vince for being a genius.
The only thing that makes sense is if Vince is a huge idiot. Even if TKO cut off payments, Vince has more then enough personally to pay it off, it was $2 million. Others have said that Vince has a history of getting out of contracts when he can and he's done it alot to screw people over. He probably saw this as a contract being broken and so didn't owe her the money anymore. But given the subject matter he should have just paid anyways.
@@Damaged7 exactly because now will probably cost him 100 million.
Remember when Trish barked like a dog?
Yeah man, I always thought that was super uncomfortable. Found out about it well afterward.
Kinda didn't care about wrestling after the late 80's, and I gotta admit i find this whole story delicious.
If he made you uncomfortable then why go back to WWE previously 2-3 times? You say that now but when that check was clearing you didn’t feel uncomfortable then, you didn’t say he made you uncomfortable before all this happen, click bait type of stuff
He's not the only one who looked the other way when it comes to that money Dutch mantell made. But you are right why come back if Vince made him uncomfortable.
You can still go to work while feeling uncomfortable and just go about your business but yeah… he could have walked out at any time.
Gotta make a living. WWE probably paid a lot more than TNA. Just because you think your boss is weird and there maybe something off about him doesn't necessarily mean you're just going to up and quit.
Can't blame Dutch that the money was good. He wasn't the one getting trafficked.
Don't most people have bosses that make them feel uncomfortable?
Jimmy Snuka, Rita Chatterton, Lita, Christy Hemme
Lita and Christy Hemme?
Ashley Massaro
Lord Alfred Hayes. Chyna. Sunny. Sable. Nailz. Owen Hart. Moolah. Mel Phillips. Pat Patterson. Terry Garvin.
@@canoli27 What about them?
@@vincesmith2499 Lord Alfred sexually assaulted Roddy Piper. Sunny and Chyna went into p0rn. Chyna was heartbroken by HHH after he cheated with Stephanie. Sunny was involved with HBK while dating Candido still. Sable sued in 1999 for sexual harassment and being forced into posing nude on tv. Moolah pimped women out. Owen died in the ring after opposing a storyline where he slept with Debra. Nailz strangled Vince backstage after claiming he was sexually assaulted . Patterson, Garvin and Phillips all resigned after the 1992 ring boy scandal. I'm sure there are plenty of others.
What other similar stories are there that are rumored on other wwe celebrities that we don’t know?
@AB2343C Really? Dont see any operating marks on him?
@@AB2343C I know xpoc and Chyna scandal. They removed saying she was acting in porn or something
@@AB2343C That surgeon broke the law by speaking about the surgery
@@AB2343C I don't care personally, Israel adasanya had gyno-titty
Dutch is Right...If She was So Upset...She Should have Left... TOTALLY AGREE Dutch!..Btw Good seeing you in Here 👍
Try google "what is grooming?"
Brilliant podcast, guys. 👍
He will no doubt offer her an exorbitant amount of money not to go to trial, (much more than the 3 million he originally was to give her to stay quiet) . I hope she declines and takes this to court and it all comes out. Just look at recent headlines about another powerful man having to pay 83 million after civil proceedings. A jury may find him liable for an amount, that would make that 83 million look like chicken feed. Remember, she isn't only suing Vince, but the WWE company as well.
They’ll file so many appeals that she’d never see a dime for years or likely ever!
I need to see what Jim Ross is saying . All the shit Vince put him through makes me think he has something to say .
WHO doesn't have something to say about ANYTHING nowadays? Fucking internet. Smh
@@christerry1611 His opinion is an informed opinion . That makes it worthy of listening to
@@christerry1611 I take it you would rather we all ignore the downfall of the most powerful figure in wrestling ? A guy many people always knew was a trash human being ?
What I want to know is did vince really text like a 12 year old?
Also something Dutch talked about that I thought was interesting- about the bad feeling he would have around vince. Uncomfortable feelings. I’ve heard and read about many people describing that about someone who was demonically possessed. I mean could a normal human say and do that stuff to somebody else? I do t think so.
We knew he was dirty for decades when he was feeling up and kissing younger women on tv and in front of his wife. Imagine what he did off camera. Stuff like this? Worse?
I can relate you get this weird feeling around them but can't explain it
P.S. The crazy part 14:27 that your talking about the NDA she signed Vince screwed up and went against the agreement by not paying her now when she takes it to court she is gonna try and get the NDA with them to be avoid to fully open up about what happened. And it would be wise for anyone who was involved to shut their mouth and lawyer up and not answer any question that could lead to charges punishable by imprisonment ranging from 10 years to a life sentence for sex-trafficking if found guilty hell if this goes to trial and she gets that NDA voided they're all screwed if there is enough evidence to go criminal charges.
He stopped paying Janel because she went to the Wall Street Journal and revealed all the details that were protected in the NDA June 15, 2022.
People interested on this subject could read Rick Ross's book on cults. Abusive relationships like this are sometimes treated as a cult of one in interventions. One aspect of destructive cuts is that the cult member often becomes financially dependent on the cult. There's also the peer pressure from the other cult members upon the victim to get them to conform to the cult views. It can provide answers to questions such as: "Why didn't she leave".
what's with the product placement of Dr pepper when this is such a serious subject
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She lost her parents before meeting Vince. I don't understand how you guys missed that in the lawsuit.
The man who reportedly loved poop jokes, has become one. The easiest one is when someone’s having a bad day you tell them “At least Vince didn’t shit on you.”
Nothing can be sicker, then Vince wanting to do a story line Where he gets Stephanie pregnant.
Hello from Germany. Can someone write me a short summary that I can copy for translation? That would be super nice.
Dutch is a quality guy.
Sportskeeda always has the worst clickbait articles. Most are just wild speculation. I do not accept them as any form of legitimate journalism. I misclicked and will not be back.
Slim Jim bailed on Vince almost 30 years ago when Mach left. Vince was pissed losing the sponsorship. Ironic they had a deal in Vince leaving as well
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Maybe Vince intimidated Sable to go with Brock Lesner
Uhh gee ya think…?
@@marcbasil HI Jim
Must have been one hell of an intimidation. They've been together about 20 years and have kids.
@@for111 uhh yeah, he’s like one of the single deadliest human beings on planet earth. What’s your point? She tried desperately to break up with him, and the junk!e gear head Iunatic BROKE INTO HER HOME. A deal was brokered, and they were married. What don’t you get about how all of these people are sick? This was a woman who filed a secksual lawsuit against mac mahon jr lmao
Probably had a three some
I guess dark cloud is a nice way of saying apocalyptic storm! I'm not even 5 pages into the 67 page document, and I'm already tempted to put my fist through my laptop monitor!
Hunter is being unfairly criticized for the press conference responses. Based on the fact that he is the full on head of creative I cannot imagine that from the time the documents were released and the rumble I'm almost certain that he was full on pedal to the metal to get the rumble to go off without incident to keep the wrestlers connected to the goal and staying on track for the big weekend. I would assume that others that would typically help with the planning and such were on damage control.
I think he's being judged unfairly also!
I agree he’s done absolutely nothing wrong. He’s not gonna talk about an ongoing lawsuit in a press conference ffs!
@garymardle2120 that's what I've been saying. You can't expect him to say anything substantial about the ongoing investigation into Vince. He should focus on the good things in the company at this point
Vince McMahon is another Bill Cosby.
14:10 Dutch ... You'd know all of this if you read the lawsuit.
Can't believe so many people are doing discussion videos without reading the whole lawsuit.
To be Fair , Dutch has some better than most
How many more women will come out sayin similar events? This wss just the first woman to come out, which should motivate the other women to come forward, making the case stronger.
If the Undertaker is smart he should stay as far away from the wwe As he possibly can
Oh, so the fact that she stayed makes him innocent? Omg, you guys just never stop making excuses, do you? 🤢🤢🤢
They are allegations, this isn’t a 3rd world country, we have laws that says innocent until proven guilty by a court of law, no the emotions of individuals with biases, whether you like it or not that’s how it is, she did partake in these acts, no one forced her, she was promised a job and $3 million dollars, he only paid her $1 million and starting ignoring her, she was paid for her services, she isn’t innocent
@@The1987Kid I LOVE how royally screwed McMahon is. He's been CANCELED! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No it doesn't but it does make her out to be less of a victim. Especially after NOT going to police and TAKING the Vince bucks to keep it quiet.
@@Gorgutsforcongress What does it make him that he paid hush money?
@@lindarichards3195 a customer?
I agree with Dutch. Why don’t you just leave? Yes her parents passed on and she was in need of a job. But to stay in the same building as Vince! How much are you really “struggling”? To speak for the majority of us we can’t afford to stay in the same building as a BILLIONAIRE! I’m not taking the side of Vince by no means. But this is coming on the heals of the merger and The Rock being on the board. Why not tell your story last year or when it actually happened? My opinion she is telling the story because Vince stopped paying. Let’s be rational adults about this. Separate the fandom from reality. If this is proven in court than she deserves everything penny.
Thought I recognized sp3. Jimmy macram’s friend ❤
Regarding The Mann Act, I haven't heard that mentioned since the last time I saw Smokey and the Bandit where Sheriff B. Justice accused the Bandit of violating that law taking the runaway bride across state lines.
Nowadays with Trafficking being such an overlooked and disregarded topic, that little Hollywood treatment of the issue seems to contribute heavily towards Society's habit of tolerance where such activity is concerned
This is going to end up being about nothing but a pay day.
This has aged bad.
18:47 "Oooooh SPECULATE!"
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Y didn't u Dutch M, Jim C, or any1 (the boys) else do anything. Kudos 2 Miz 4 getn Maryse outa that mess. Moral or Oral
Dutch Mantell is the only wrestler being vocal about this. Good for him.
Bret spoke out today.
Triple H should be cut a little slack when it comes to Vince. Vince is his Father in Law and also the Grandfather to his kids I am sure this is a very sensitive and personal time for him and the whole family....
yeah exactly. but instead they ask him a question about it, knowing he can only give them a bullshit answer. it wasnt the right bullshit answer so now they are attacking him. fn pests.
No, he has some issues of his own with NDA's
There's no way people didn't turn a blind eye to this. According to Sunny, Vince was facilitating her and Shawn's fling.
These entities/corporations are falling. These are the little fishes we are seeing fall right now. No surprise here.
Cody and roman 2 years n a row? Lmao 😂😂😂 wrestling is gone. Just bury it away already
How could Triple H not be involved with the Vince issue, and all the people that were let go,could they have been involved as well?
Is there anything Dutch doesn't claim to be wise of before the event, when he only claims it after the event?!...🙄
"I can't imagine any of the wrestlers doing this."
Don't suppose you've taken any 14-hour plane rides recently, huh, Dutch?
WWE is dead. If, somehow, the company manages to crawl out from under McMahon, it will either be a total shell of its former self, or eradicated by Emanuel and replaced with something completely new. Rita Chatterton, Tom Cole...let's see, who else? The woman who worked at the spa, _ASHLEY MASSARO,_ Torrie Wilson, and now Janel Grant (and the other women from a couple of years ago)... Then you have all the creepy storylines over the years: Katie Vick, the proposed storyline where Vince was Stephanie's baby's daddy, Trish Stratus, Sable... it's so, so, _so_ gross. Anyone heard from Candice Michelle recently?
I will bet you dollars to doughnuts that this case gets elevated from civil to criminal PDQ because _Vince has a history._ Him and Donald Trump are like two peas in a fucking pod, where they do shady shit for so long and manage to wriggle through the fingers of prosecutors for _YEARS,_ and now they're at a stage in their life where they have all this money and all this power and all this ego that they really do think they're untouchable. Vince's only saving grace at this point would be for him to plead not guilty by reason of insanity and then be remanded to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his days (or if Donald Trump gets re-elected in November and ultimately pardons McMahon). The only trouble is that there isn't a big enough neck brace in the world that Vince could wear that would give him sympathy with any reasonable-minded jury.
Personally, I hope Vince rots in jail. Not just because of what he did (allegedly) to Janel Grant, but for all the times he turned a blind eye to other... _indiscretions_ made by others in his employ (Pat Patterson, Mel Phillips) or engaging in heinous acts himself...allegedly.
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
Dutch, he’s a sociopath, that’s what you were picking up on.
Vince on-screen kiss my ass club gives you an idea of Vince behind the scene what he does off camera
It is always like the tip of the iceberg analogy...1/10th is visible,but 9/10ths is buried or unknown.THIS WHOLE CASE OR SITUATION COULD DRAG ON FOR A REAL LONG TIME.AND AT THE VERY END THE VICTIM'S WILL NEVER BE FULLY COMPENSATED.
I've worked for a few people that gave me the creeps. Who hasn't?
What on earth will Vince's defense be?
"It WAS ME ALL ALONG!!!"
-Vince on the stand
OH SON OF A BITCH!
-His attotney
Dutch Mantell isn't a pimple on Vince Mcmahon's ass. His opinion is as worthless as mine. Mcmahon will buy his way out of this situation for a certain figure of money. WTF is $15M to even reach $50M subtracting from $2.8B? Vince is out because he sold his stock. This will be resolved civilly, trust. A big part of me however hopes this costs Vince $1.4B to Linda if true.
Not to sound inconsiderate or to put blame on Janel Grant. But how the hell is she broke if she lives in the same building as Vince McMahon?!? Doesn’t make sense
Even if it was her parents money, once her parents died, was there not anything left behind for her? Just weird
After for the record, Triple H didn’t say “no comment”. He said he didn’t read the 67 page lawsuit.
This was bound to happen sooner or later once he started doing things that required NDAs.
I think it will be the rock v reigns for the wwe title and cody vs Rollins both on the 1st night also for the world title Reigns and cody both winning and that will set up night 2 reigns v cody for the undisputed world title. That will give them wwe an excuse also to bin the world title which is not relevant anymore. With added intrigue due to rock wanting cody to win and seth wanting Roman to win due to the previous nights results and history. And rock and seth will intervene in that cody reigns match with cody finally winning and ending his story. Also that sets up further storylines further down the line. Simples.
Not sure. But, she isn’t a minor. She was psychologically tortured, however, how do underlings that have an inkling of what’s going on report this to anyone? There isn’t mandated reporting for this type of stuff. She is of age. Going after people working at titan towers is a bit harsh. Vince is the culprit! He must be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law! Beyond that, he destroyed his legacy. His poor grandkids have to now hear about how deviant this monster was to other people.
Who cares about his grandkids
@@marcbasil I’m just saying. If it were my grandpa, I’d be humiliated and devastated
I believe she was just as guilty because Ms. Grant is a grown woman. She couldve said no and simply left the job. Her needing the money isnt a valid excuse. If a male bank robber said "I only did it because I needed the money....." Do you think the judge would give him a break? No. Im not defending what Mcmahon did but Im also not defending Ms. Grant because she did this for 2 years. The only reason why she has a case is because of that NDA document that she agreed to and Vince didnt fulfill his part of the agreement.
I agree 💯!
Why interview people who are just speculating, especially people who did not get along with Vince?
there are others from UFC stop bashing just Lesnar. Kane Velasquez etc
23:52 what is the point? you know he cant talk about it. you know he can only give you a bullshit answer, like you said it yourself. so what is the point of asking him a question about it? fact is this. no matter what he said, there would be people bashing him for it and knowing how easily people can get you canceled for saying the wrong word, its best for him to avoid saying anything. you are focusing on him and bashing him for what he said instead of leaving the guy alone. can you imagine how this is for him when Vince is Stephanies father and also grandfather to their kids. Im more annoyed at guys like you than him. "hey we are gonna ask you a question and we expect you to give us the right bullshit answer" what the fuck is that?
Dutch... Titan Towers doesnt exist anymore
I think Everyone is forgetting about the sexual allegations Sable made… who later went back to WWE and married to Brock Lesner.. I believe there was a settlement agreement over that as well..
Thought Vince was only into ring boys and Michael Shawn Hickensbottom
"Why did she just leave?" Who cares. Vince McMahon felt the need to pay her to keep quiet, that says enough right there. Then he didn't follow through with his payment, after receiving the biggest payoff of his life, no less. That alone is enough reason to say "Fuck him!" He made his bed.
These idiots already made up his minds i guess. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
"These idiots already made up his minds i guess."
Your command of the English language illustrates your own personal idiocy. The texts messages included with the lawsuit are what implicates McMahon's guilt, but I'm probably using words that are too big for you to comprehend, so instead, I'll just say that it takes an idiot to know one.
Playing devils advocate can he say someone tampered with his cell phone, like can he say someone else had his phone at some point, or are the text messages on going for a long time period ??
These are very deep waters
So so uncomfortable that you went back for couple more of his Dutch Ovens- 😆🤣😂😭😄 bahaBAHAhaha
He said he felt uncomfortable, he didn't say he knew Vince was fucking sex trafficking dude. 😂😂
This case is so gross and are warned before you read the files "EXTREMELY GRAPHIC THAT DEAL WITH THINGS OF SEXUAL NATURE" it's not even funny when you read it all and the icing on the cake is she has all the proof screen shots, dates, times and locations and also people who saw it go on and other victims we can a assume too that we don't even know or still gonna be coming out of the wood work. This is scary and sick to not only have one person but a group of people involved.
Her suing Vince for unpaid prostitution is like me suing my drug dealer for shorting me on Crack.
Unless prostitution is legalized, I don't see her case whatsoever.
That’s not how business works in a public traded company. If you are too dumb to know that this girl was a liability from past trauma you deserve all the heat that comes your way. This is not the mailroom clerk and the secretary having a quickie in the copier room this is the head of the corporation. Vince was running this like a indoor Hooker track
@@glenparker1498She wasn't a real employee of the WWE. Vince put her on the payroll for her bedroom performances.
Dirty Dutch had no problems getting a few paychecks from Mr.Vince McMahon.
...Will NEVER touch Dutch & James!..
this intro aged like milk
Dutch hilarious he says no wonder Linda got away from him😂😂😂she knew everything. No way that much money in that business and she doesn't have spies or have the personal knowledge. Give me a brake😂😂😂
Is Sid Pullar falling sleep? whats wrong with his eyelids?
Does Vince have brain damage? I'm just trying to think of a logical explanation for his behavior plus the stupidity of texting her and the double stupidity of not paying her the agreed amount for the NDA.
I think that’s definitely a factor. He could easily have dementia symptoms at his age, even if he didn’t have a history of head trauma and drug use, which he does.
It has now gone to a federal investigation now i believe
Uhmm i wouldn't be surprised if Saraya is one of them
Vince, just looks bad. You sensed the demon in him. When I get around demons I know because, my voice changes, I can't think straight, I get jittery, I get mad when I start feeling like that because I know what's going on. I left my job 2 weeks ago because of this too. I don't have time to play games at work. I went to work to only do my job, but they couldn't let me work. They had to get in thier 2 cents. I've forgotten more things in life than those people have learned. Nobody likes learning now, if you try to help them, they take it wrong. They just google it. Lol
Bullshit Sid... HE PAID for her "services". She isn't an invalid, she's not mentally handicapped. She CHOSE to stick around. There is absolutely nothing intimidating about Vince McMahon, give me a break!!
If she lives at the same apartment complex as him she can’t be hurting that bad😄
I've been thinking about this case. And I consider how many people Vince layed off without much warning. How many times has Vince laid off a wrestler who is seemingly in his/her prime. For example, Bray Wyatt (RIP), who still had a few more good runs left in him and fans were far from being tired of his character. Fans would have been happy seeing him square off with a few more baby faces in the company or maybe a face turn in the same vein as Undertaker.
My point is, do you think these surprise lay offs might have something to do with what was going on backstage? Maybe guys like Bray refused to take part in these "business ventures"?
Look up summery judgment it could happen
oof the Cody going to mania and no Rock comment aged like milk in a matter of days.
I hope bruce aint involved in this shit.
I agree, I really like Bruce and his podcast. Really hope that he isn't involved in this.
Welp still ended up being rock and reigns😂😂😂😂
Let Tammy Sytch out of prison for a while to tell her side.....im sure she knows alot of stuff herself......she can tell on Vinny Mac
I don’t trust her, but Vince is definitely guilty of something
She stayed for the money and Vince reneged she blabbed. It's all about the money.