Great overview. I love my sliders. If I didn't own 3 I'd pick this one up. I also like the new ifootage nano 2 with the Ronin integration. But I don't have a ronin so if I were to require more advanced pan and tilt I'd look into this.
First of all thank you! I wasn't aware of the ifootage one, will look it up. I know YC Onion have done some gimbal integration earlier. But yes, same here, no Ronin. Still, there’s a certain level of convenience of having an integrated unit or maybe that's just lazy me 🤣😅
Thanks for the good overview! So, did I understand correctly, the slider still doesn't allow for continuous movement between more than 2 waypoints? That was a problem mentioned often before in comments and I thought they wanted to fix it.
You can do it if you program the carriage with the pan motor and the tilt motor separately. So it it can be done. But as many didn't realize this, it's becomes quite obvious that a more intuitive solution would be nice to see. Perhaps two separate sections in the app with different waypoints. For shots like the whiskey bottle/glass shot, that was programmed without separating the two motors as the brief pause on each waypoint is wanted in order to create the impact and clear image of each subject.
It definitely would when those types of shoots are needed. Although I'm not sure when the pauses actually becomes a problem. But I only use sliders for product shots where I typically want it to land on a product subject. But hopefully with more users letting Zeapon know what features they want and how they want them to work, they would be able to make further implementations.
I've never tested it on a "box/compact cine" but given the compactness and low weight of the KX body. If paired with a relatively lightweight prime and battery. I should fit on both directions and be well within the payload limit. It clears the FX3/FX30 bodies which is about the same on the long end as the KX. But that's only based on numbers.
Nope, like I said "I've never tested it on a box/compact cine" I just compared the dimensions of the KX with the Sony FX3/FX30 which is what I use, and it turns out the Sony is slightly wider than the KX (long side) Since you can mount the camera both forward and sideways on the tilt motor. Size would be the main concern in your case and based on those numbers the KX should and work as long as you stay within the payload limit of the motors. Which shouldn't be difficult.
No. But I haven't used that slider. In general and as I talked about in the video. Shakes often comes from running the slider too fast based on how it's setup and how the camera is attached. That and everything else that comes from taking something from stationary to moving and back to stationary. Make sure that everything holding the camera and slider is properly tightened and will be able to handle the weight and acceleration at starts and stops without any bending or flexing. That along with any lens or in camera stabilization could also cause issues if not turned off. Then try to find the sweet spot for speed based on your setup to minimize any flexing at acceleration and deceleration. 2mm of shift over 10 frames or over 50-70 will be less visible. An easy way to not have to worry about it as much is to use the same principle you do on a panning shot - start ahead of your cut point and set your end/stopp panning after your second cut point. This way you get rid of the starts and stops completely, and you typically/most often want to cut to motion instead of still and start to avoid those dead frames anyway. Hope this helps you get the shots you're looking for.
Great video as always mate.
Thanks for the visit always great to see you here.
The 800mm is perfect for most cases and being shorter with the same rod size means it's the sturdiest. Thanks for the great review.
I couldn't agree more!!
Thanks for watching!
Tack ska du ha Thomas! 😀
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I bought the 100 , what great slider.
Awesome!
Yeah isn't it! It's crazy what you can do with it if you get creative.
Great overview. I love my sliders. If I didn't own 3 I'd pick this one up. I also like the new ifootage nano 2 with the Ronin integration. But I don't have a ronin so if I were to require more advanced pan and tilt I'd look into this.
First of all thank you!
I wasn't aware of the ifootage one, will look it up. I know YC Onion have done some gimbal integration earlier. But yes, same here, no Ronin. Still, there’s a certain level of convenience of having an integrated unit or maybe that's just lazy me 🤣😅
Thanks for the good overview! So, did I understand correctly, the slider still doesn't allow for continuous movement between more than 2 waypoints? That was a problem mentioned often before in comments and I thought they wanted to fix it.
You can do it if you program the carriage with the pan motor and the tilt motor separately. So it it can be done.
But as many didn't realize this, it's becomes quite obvious that a more intuitive solution would be nice to see. Perhaps two separate sections in the app with different waypoints.
For shots like the whiskey bottle/glass shot, that was programmed without separating the two motors as the brief pause on each waypoint is wanted in order to create the impact and clear image of each subject.
@@thomasfransson Thanks for the answer! That's good to hear it's at least possible but would be nice if it could be more intuitive.
It definitely would when those types of shoots are needed. Although I'm not sure when the pauses actually becomes a problem. But I only use sliders for product shots where I typically want it to land on a product subject.
But hopefully with more users letting Zeapon know what features they want and how they want them to work, they would be able to make further implementations.
there's still some vibration in between your directional moves, but it's still pretty good
No vibrations in the original footage. Maybe it was a playback glitch?
That or maybe my speed ramp keypoints?
I can see it also, either there's vibrations or the IBIS in the camera is on and compensating
great video
Thank you! And thanks for the visit!
How does the slider perform on cinema cameras like the red komodo x ??? Thank You
I've never tested it on a "box/compact cine" but given the compactness and low weight of the KX body. If paired with a relatively lightweight prime and battery. I should fit on both directions and be well within the payload limit.
It clears the FX3/FX30 bodies which is about the same on the long end as the KX.
But that's only based on numbers.
@@thomasfransson so you never tried it right? Theres no video about my problem in the internet 😀😀
Nope, like I said "I've never tested it on a box/compact cine"
I just compared the dimensions of the KX with the Sony FX3/FX30 which is what I use, and it turns out the Sony is slightly wider than the KX (long side)
Since you can mount the camera both forward and sideways on the tilt motor. Size would be the main concern in your case and based on those numbers the KX should and work as long as you stay within the payload limit of the motors. Which shouldn't be difficult.
I'm getting jealous of that white viltrox 😁
Soo easy to find in the camera back when digging around
I own a zeapon e800. do u face the same problem of it being a little shaky at the start and end of a waypoint?
No. But I haven't used that slider.
In general and as I talked about in the video. Shakes often comes from running the slider too fast based on how it's setup and how the camera is attached. That and everything else that comes from taking something from stationary to moving and back to stationary.
Make sure that everything holding the camera and slider is properly tightened and will be able to handle the weight and acceleration at starts and stops without any bending or flexing. That along with any lens or in camera stabilization could also cause issues if not turned off.
Then try to find the sweet spot for speed based on your setup to minimize any flexing at acceleration and deceleration. 2mm of shift over 10 frames or over 50-70 will be less visible.
An easy way to not have to worry about it as much is to use the same principle you do on a panning shot - start ahead of your cut point and set your end/stopp panning after your second cut point.
This way you get rid of the starts and stops completely, and you typically/most often want to cut to motion instead of still and start to avoid those dead frames anyway.
Hope this helps you get the shots you're looking for.
@@thomasfransson thanks for ur help brooo
Still no pause function in the software?
Do you mean a longer hold on each waypoint?
quite a reasonable price for all that kit.
It really is, at least when compared to options that can do similar shots ;)
"Poor man's" :) I below poor then.
Haha, I hear you, thanks for watching though.