The gut punch that Voll is actually losing his mind made me so sad. Surprised it didn't get Faroh as much. Dementia is such a scary and bleak way to see your loved ones go.
The many forms of grief on display are interesting, but as a series, I find it soothing that canonically dead characters still have so much screen time. The memories of them still serve as impactful story threads, and the frequency of their proverbial cameos teaches the viewer at the same pace Frieren realizes what laid in her past. There's something to say with how some might idealistically imagine evil to disappear with the Demon Lord's demise. When Old Man Voll last saw Frieren, he was defending the village for hundreds of years already, the Demon Lord's death didn't change anything for him, monsters still come, and the promise to his departed wife remains.
Just wanted to say EXCELLENT wording here. I love how you wrote this because I think it perfectly summarizes some good points of the show. Lovely comment!
Back in the episode where he appeared, Kraft told Frieren that he wanted the Goddess to praise him when he died because there was no one alive who even remembered his triumphs, so he and his forgotten friend did something similar to what Himmel and the rest did, only centuries ago and nobody remembers it or even who they were.
@@farohreacts It's been over a year since I read the manga, but I do remember Kraft mentioned that he didn't have all of his memory. Maybe I misread it and it was just a lie because he didn't like parading around his past heroics, or perhaps it was so long ago, he's forgotten them himself. Edit: Now that I'm thinking, I wonder if it was a mis(fan)translation of the manga, lmao.
Part of me hopes we don't. I think that's kind of the point. Our deeds, our actions, how we look, all that will be forgotten but the love and care we give others will continue long long after we're gone
Great job recognizing the correlation between Himmel and Frieren to the old dwarf and the human girl he knew. A massive part that some people have trouble understanding with this series is that Himmel had to make sure Frieren was as happy as possible even if that meant not being able to fully love her. He didn't want her to end up like this old dwarf. Himmel staying just behind the line of romance is him wanting her to be truly happy even if that meant the cost of his love.
This puts into perspective why Kraft became a monk compared to the warrior he was in his past life. I want to believe he did that to remember the other hero he adventured with.
Alzheimer's and Dementia is a double edged sword. My grandma will get VERY angry every time she re-discovers her Sister died a few years ago thinking no one has told her. Its important to know when to let them have their own thoughts and when to remind them they've forgotten.
I love your reactions to this. I totally resonate with your thoughts and emotional investment. After this episode, I started reading the manga and I can't wait to see your future reactions to the anime
Don't mind your pausing you one of the fewer reactors who were more invested in the first half of the episode so I appreciate your input a lot this episode.
I love watching your reactions and hearing your perspective--great that you're able to pic-up on the subtle nuances in every episode. Keep it up and looking forward to the next one! Thank you! 🙏🏻💚
And a part of Himmel remembers that it may not be good to be a burden after ones death. That denial and than brief shock on Frieren face... Memory ist the only thing that she has... It's totally normal to not know your best bros birth name, isn't it? 😅
Given Frieren seems to be following the anime trope of the main party being powerful but broke, I strongly suspect hiring a carriage is beyond their means. Walking isn't too bad though, you get used to it, particularly if you're not pushing hard. . I always love seeing just how deeply Himmel seemed to love Frieren, and how much effort he put into trying to ensure she would be happy into the future and remember him. I always get the impression that at some point he made the decision to act out his side of the romance (I hate using that word, it feels far too superficial), despite resigning himself to it never being reciprocated in his lifetime. I always enjoy his characterisation of initially seeming superficial and almost narcissistic, but ultimately so incredibly selfless. For the record too, I can't wait for the anime to catch up to the more recent chapters of the manga, because there's at least one scene in there that absolutely killed me with that.
He continued to guard the village waiting for the demon king to be defeated for his promise to his wife. She didn't tell him that the demon king was already defeated because that would have ended the meaning to his promise. Cruel and kind in the same sense.
The way this one got me was so 😭😭😭
what u talking about? I think u cried on them all lol
Frieren is the only show I look forward to every week and can’t help but think about after watching each episode. It’s such great storytelling.
For me it's Frieren and Apothecary Diaries
@@duke4088 Apothecary Diaries is fire 🔥
The gut punch that Voll is actually losing his mind made me so sad. Surprised it didn't get Faroh as much. Dementia is such a scary and bleak way to see your loved ones go.
it definitely got me, i was just tryna hold that ish back so hard
The many forms of grief on display are interesting, but as a series, I find it soothing that canonically dead characters still have so much screen time. The memories of them still serve as impactful story threads, and the frequency of their proverbial cameos teaches the viewer at the same pace Frieren realizes what laid in her past.
There's something to say with how some might idealistically imagine evil to disappear with the Demon Lord's demise. When Old Man Voll last saw Frieren, he was defending the village for hundreds of years already, the Demon Lord's death didn't change anything for him, monsters still come, and the promise to his departed wife remains.
Just wanted to say EXCELLENT wording here. I love how you wrote this because I think it perfectly summarizes some good points of the show. Lovely comment!
Thank you kindly. Perhaps we might refer to this being a byproduct of researching for ideal words while translating.
Back in the episode where he appeared, Kraft told Frieren that he wanted the Goddess to praise him when he died because there was no one alive who even remembered his triumphs, so he and his forgotten friend did something similar to what Himmel and the rest did, only centuries ago and nobody remembers it or even who they were.
Kraft is like between 4000-5000+ years old I think
Kraft did mention his heroic deeds have been forgotten. Hopefully we get the backstory for Kraft.
If I'm remembering correctly, the anime left out an important detail from the manga. Kraft doesn't remember who he was long ago.
@Ncyphen I’m sorry what
@@farohreacts It's been over a year since I read the manga, but I do remember Kraft mentioned that he didn't have all of his memory. Maybe I misread it and it was just a lie because he didn't like parading around his past heroics, or perhaps it was so long ago, he's forgotten them himself.
Edit: Now that I'm thinking, I wonder if it was a mis(fan)translation of the manga, lmao.
Part of me hopes we don't. I think that's kind of the point. Our deeds, our actions, how we look, all that will be forgotten but the love and care we give others will continue long long after we're gone
Yeah, Kraft and his friend were heroes long before Himmel's party, probably thousands of years ago.
Great job recognizing the correlation between Himmel and Frieren to the old dwarf and the human girl he knew. A massive part that some people have trouble understanding with this series is that Himmel had to make sure Frieren was as happy as possible even if that meant not being able to fully love her. He didn't want her to end up like this old dwarf. Himmel staying just behind the line of romance is him wanting her to be truly happy even if that meant the cost of his love.
This puts into perspective why Kraft became a monk compared to the warrior he was in his past life. I want to believe he did that to remember the other hero he adventured with.
18:12 "He's a forgotten hero?" Well Kraft did call Frieren who is over a thousand years old YOUNG so who knows how old their legend is?
Show never fails to make me tear up
Alzheimer's and Dementia is a double edged sword. My grandma will get VERY angry every time she re-discovers her Sister died a few years ago thinking no one has told her. Its important to know when to let them have their own thoughts and when to remind them they've forgotten.
I love your reactions to this. I totally resonate with your thoughts and emotional investment. After this episode, I started reading the manga and I can't wait to see your future reactions to the anime
Don't mind your pausing you one of the fewer reactors who were more invested in the first half of the episode so I appreciate your input a lot this episode.
I love watching your reactions and hearing your perspective--great that you're able to pic-up on the subtle nuances in every episode. Keep it up and looking forward to the next one! Thank you! 🙏🏻💚
And a part of Himmel remembers that it may not be good to be a burden after ones death.
That denial and than brief shock on Frieren face... Memory ist the only thing that she has...
It's totally normal to not know your best bros birth name, isn't it? 😅
Let it flow, let it flow, let it flow 😭
Eisen's not dead, yet. He probably has another 50 years, at most.
Old men forcing Stark to train with them sorta in the background becomes a running gag in the manga.
I am a strong manly man . . . where is all this water coming from?
Carriages bypass sidequests and are therefore shunned.
Given Frieren seems to be following the anime trope of the main party being powerful but broke, I strongly suspect hiring a carriage is beyond their means. Walking isn't too bad though, you get used to it, particularly if you're not pushing hard.
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I always love seeing just how deeply Himmel seemed to love Frieren, and how much effort he put into trying to ensure she would be happy into the future and remember him. I always get the impression that at some point he made the decision to act out his side of the romance (I hate using that word, it feels far too superficial), despite resigning himself to it never being reciprocated in his lifetime. I always enjoy his characterisation of initially seeming superficial and almost narcissistic, but ultimately so incredibly selfless.
For the record too, I can't wait for the anime to catch up to the more recent chapters of the manga, because there's at least one scene in there that absolutely killed me with that.
He continued to guard the village waiting for the demon king to be defeated for his promise to his wife. She didn't tell him that the demon king was already defeated because that would have ended the meaning to his promise. Cruel and kind in the same sense.
Eisen isn’t dead yet!