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suspend players is the most stupid thing i have heard lets say your not a cheater and there is a event then you dont get the tank like think better dude
As a console player I can tell you I can lock on to anything that Flys in clouds behind trees and even mountains it's a built in console feature it's broken af it's like esp
I encounter at least one cheater a day, I’ve since a couple days ago stopped playing, but one a day seems to be the average I’ve seen. This is more common at 9.0+, and it seems more common during events. From about 3,000 hours of gameplay total. Prior to 2020/21, I hardly ever encountered a cheater. Granted the replay function basically didn’t work or was nonexistent. I don’t remember which. Thanks for another video. I know gaijin is doing something, but it seems like a tarkov cheating situation. Doesn’t matter how many they ban once the cheaters infest the game.
the aimbots have definitley gotten more severe after Battle eye was introduced (twitchy target leading and snap lock on). On the plus side it seems actual people using them rather than just bot accounts.
@ back in 2017-18, I remember a lot of random players acted and played a lot like bots. The population was in a downswing around that time, too. I did notice a cheater I encountered had a naval record with one 5.7 premium boat was 5000+ kills and 2000+ deaths, and 0 other boats played and only a few premium tanks. Not suspicious at all.
Everyday when it hits midnight at 12:00 am EST and into the morning it’s rampant. I call it Chinese horde hours, but I’ve noticed it’s mainly Chinese players hacking. Like I’ll get a cheater almost every two games at those times, when Easy AC got taken down the night before the lobbies were completely full of them every match. I get the anger towards the Chinese, but it’s not just them and I have seen European/North American players do it but it’s rare. I’m growing super tired of it, I wish people didn’t cheat in video games but when a game is competitive you’ll always have losers. It’s getting really old, I really wanna see more crack down from Gaijin and better measures set against these reprobates.
One time I took a wild shot coming out of spawn towards the enemy spawn and got a kill, lol I know I must have been reported, but nothing came of it. It was the Poland map, bottom left side Once in awhile I'll get a hit doing that.
Its probably because of a cheater packet throttling. I only came across it when I was dogfighting, about to get a kill, then suddenly my packet loss went up to 64% allowing whoever was losing the dogfight, to instant kill me. Its probably a lag switch or packet abusing.
Still can't understand the psychology of cheating? Where is the feeling of satisfaction of having a good game if you cheat? I have a lot more bad games than good ones but when I have a good game it is satisfying.
I have noticed that most cheaters still perform bad even with cheats. My best guess is that these people are just bad so they feel the need to compensate with external assistance.
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 in 4 matches we were playing with a cheater in the game, Whether it be someone using an illegal sound profile, to just strictly walls with no aim assisting. I'm not saying this is the case. Just that I wouldn't be surprised. The cough was absolutely the PEAK for cheating. The sound in this game is absolutely criminal if anything. And I wouldn't even be mad at people for running "Illegal" sound profiles that fix the BS audio in this game. Gladiator did a video recently about the audio.... I've been enjoying my break from the game and that video just solidified my reasoning for not giving Gaijin anymore of my time.
The main reason I've heard games do banwa es rather than banning someone instantly is so it's harder for cheat makers to figure out how the cheats were spotted. Ban waves mean cheat makers have less info on how the cheats were discovered and they will also recieve an massive overflow of cheaters complaining about being discovered. This is what I remember at least
The snail is more invested in trying to eradicate the bots from the game right now rather than dealing with the growing number of cheat program users. While the snail loses their war against the bots, the cheat program users are becoming more of a problem since their being mainly ignored and they know it. Yes the snail doesn't cater to the cheat program users but they also don't go directly out of their way to deal with them, the snail puts too much faith in anti cheats to do the job for them which obviously doesn't work. The cheat programs are generally very subtle in their work which is why so many go unnoticed, some of these cheat program users do go on overboard power trips which throw up the biggest red flag the system can possibly see like the one you showcased a while back flying a G.91, dude thanos'd their entire team in a heart beat just to eradicate the entire enemy team single handedly with bullpups used like radar missiles on steroids and invisible bullets without even firing a shot. You can even find some of them not only advertising their cheat programs but also showcasing them on TH-cam these days, just yesterday I saw one on my TH-cam front page showcasing an aimbot for ground battles that could actually lead it's target.
@ the whole concept the guy said was a suspension while they get investigated. Big whoop if they get put in with cheaters for a few days while theyre investigated
@@grizzlyraidz yeah then tell me if they where not cheating and there was a event going on what if you got suspended MID event you wont get the event tank??? its stupid
Player: Lombos_Mihály ID: ID 62536424 Replay: [Domination #2] Battle of Hürtgen Forest 19 January 2025 - 21:24 00:18:58 Realistic battles, Random battle, Tanks Brief Description: Blatant cheater, shot my plane while turning with panther cannon (I want to mention that there was no basic turn, i was using all of my aircraft surfaces to turn tactically) hope you will see it, i will make a ticket to gaijin L.E.> He starts cheating AFTER losing the Puma (blatant even in the bomber view) L.L.3.> Obvoius cheating starts arount min. 09:30
I thought Japes was OlySt...i used to watch his Twitch streams since he's friends with BPA_Jon but stopped because he was such an angry dude and honestly, didnt seem that good (hence, his constant state of anger). If this game makes you that angry, maybe you shouldnt play it constantly.
Your idea with blocking players from the MM while they are cecked for cheats is not that good if it is a false flag, with the way events are if you get false flaged and you can't finish the event because of that it will be bad for gaijin, esp if somebody goes for the 750k cupon , they are at like 700k and they get false flaged and can't get to finish it.That's why i think they don't do it, blocking false flags is bad PR esp with events that are what feels like 24/7 since the changes made at the start of 2024
IMHO if you give people to report a "cheater" and that alleged cheater will get suspended for a certain amount of time, then people will abuse that ability to get people suspended for an amount of time and basically grief people with a "time-out" from the game. Actually some "time-out" from the game may be better for some people out there as it would probably benefit their mental health...IDK...
I get called out for cheats quite often because I tend to play some very annoying and broken over powered tanks. If those people who are actually just frustrated are reporting me for cheats that would flag my account I assume. So with your solution I would be stuck without an account until someone reviews my account which could take days, weeks or even months?
Ah, that video just confirmed what I though of a player using the same plane last night. Perfect 100% center mass hit with Nord through smoke on my moving SPAA (ItPsV Leopard). And he had only 'missed' the first pass because I was not 'visible' still he did shot and the first nord hit the rocks I was hiding behind. Now about the amount of cheaters. I have slowed down my amount of playing since the early December as my playtime come around 1am-6am (GMT) and at that time, when playing BR Sweden 8.7, France 7.7, or just going for a PVE helicopter battle I do meet my share of cheaters and extra suspicious behavior. I have slowed down because it was an amount near 1 every 4-5 match and those were the blatant ones. The one that when you watch the replay show EVERY single 'features' you expose here on the channel in every videos. Granted, when I can play along the day or evening (EU time) I tend to have a bit less of those situation. And now that BE has been added, last night was a real streak of cheating or very suspicious situations. Between people who know where you are when you have not shoted, hidden from sight never being exposed, nor spotted and engine stopped, or just people who get those perfect shot through layers and layers of trees or smoke (at BR without any thermal). I even called a guy about it last night who answered "skill issue" and then "learn to play" and started to be abrasive, and strangely enough... the replay showing his gun moving around from invisible target to invisible targets and some of those legendary 'no tree shall impact my aiming' kind of kills through layers of forested area. And it get even funnier when you see some CC videos exposing cheaters (one of the recent Codemine showing an asian player shooting down the whole flight in less than a few seconds). Yes there are probably not cheaters in EVERY battle, still it start to feel more and more like GTA 5 or Escape from Tarkov than Warthunder from 8 to 10 years ago. When the cheaters were very very small in numbers and when you were encountering them only once every couple days if you were unlucky, and once every other weeks more normaly. And even then you had to know what to look for to know about the cheating. The actual situation is much much worse than then and switching from EAC to BE is not going to solve the issue. BUT BE being notorious for it's abundance of false flag, and being able to be invasive by exploring more on your computer than what is linked to Warthunder only, I would not be surprised to see Gaijin being the next Rockstar and having perfectly legit players being banned and robbed of their invested money and time. I really wish they had chosen a better AC or had invested some of that money they earned in a real security team AND done something internally. But that would mean they do care about players retention, and actually they are clearly not. They know they are a very 'one of a kind' with no competition, and they don't mind the huge player turnout. And here are a few of the reasons. 1) A higher number of player would mean they have to upgrade their servers to handle more players (that's costly and Gaijin have proved us so many time on how greedy and cheap they are) 2) A high retention mean a lot of players are 'happy' and once they have bought a few premium they are not 'cost effective' for Gaijin as a player who use the servers without buying a premium vehicle regularly AND premium time, is only a 'waste' of money for Gaijin (server use without monetary return, see point 1) 3) Gaijin whole marketing is to have player frustrated, slashing more and more reward to push people into buying premium time and vehicles. So having 'happy' player is not something they want as it would go against their Marketing behavior. (And we all know how hard it is for a company to admit they are wrong and they did pick the wrong choice at a time). So, having cheaters in the game kinda help them with all those points. Those cheaters are a 'free frustration' generator. Those players tend to push those older player that are non-cost effective away. And those cheaters also would cost much much more to be treated faster and more efficiently. Thing is, we have seen some of those blatant cheaters reach 10k to 30k battles without being banned... So even if Gaijin are doing ban waves, my opinion is that they are mostly banning bots that grind. As those bots tend to be easy targets for players and help players grind. (That was the situation in December 2023, around 10.3 Air RB and 6.0 Air RB, massive number of bots running bombers that were easy prey for not fighting back and not even dodging anything. At the time at BR 10.3 you had battles with up to 4-5 bots in BOTH teams. Making them easy targets even for stock planes. I know as I did grind my share of stock planes on them (9.7 squad Hunter, 10.3 F-4C, etc..) and those disappeared on the ban wave and I have barely seen any such bots in those BR since then. ) And bots are much easier to detect too. So banning bot give Gaijin some 'good press review' as they can say "Hey look we just banned X amount of account", while not tackling the REAL issue that much. And finally, where Air RB has lost a lot of those bots, the helicopter PVE seem to be the new Eldorado for them. Having seen a huge influx of players in that mode that do not answer on the chat, and act very suspiciously or have some very "bot-like" behavior. The kind to park at high altitude, and never even try to dodge any convoy or front spawn that happen just under them. Scoring a few death in the battle and quitting at the 30 minute mark. I really hope the game will not reach a critical level like GTA 5 did, but Gaijin are doing exactly like Rockstar in that department, they don't care at all. They do care about smacking down anyone showing how easy it is to cheat in the game. And I'm surprised this channel has not been downed by strikes so far. When you know how they did strike a lot of videos exposing cheaters and cheating in the game so far.
@@Thatguyboogerbush-gp9db Was not saying this against W.T.C.S, just giving a pretty strong opinion against Gaijin. WTCS do a very nice job to expose those cheaters. When I meet players in games who say 'what cheaters', I tell them to come here and check what it look like. Right now, the thing is, I play a lot of SPAA, and not rushing forward as I try to provide cover peoples spawning in helicopters and the planes that come quick after the first captures. That give me a bit of time to check on the stats when some strange kill streak happen.
@stephanguerry1405 i stick by what I said lol, but I do agree with both things u said, fuq gaijin, and wtcs is doing a good thing, but he's too easy on gaijin. They are fuqn crooks.
@@Thatguyboogerbush-gp9db If WTCS was going 'full charge' on Gaijin, they would strike his channel in minutes. They are 'THAT' bad. As we have seen in the recent months and years. Anytime some YT channel expose cheaters in a very harsh and strong way, and give visual proofs with information of what was used, they have been crushed and stroked to death. So far W.T.C.S. do seem to navigate the thin line without being a risk for them. Still WTCS do provide every players with a visual of what cheating is in Warthunder.
To be honest I don't personally pay much attention to my own games to see if somebody cheats, but in last 3 months I found 2 cheaters in my own games. 1 t80ue1 level 19 on the enemy team got a nuke,checked replay and found out he is using kind of aim bot. The second 1 was a tiger 2h in mid tier who got fast 8 kill in match level 29 or sth, watched replays turned out he is cheating. I may send the IDs of these players for you. The guys who say I meet cheaters every match mostly are low level and inexperienced players who get out played by better players, it is my personal experience that they would call me a cheater cause sometimes I out play them.
heres my problem with the bans... they seem to ban in waves and not like other games like when a cheater is detected theyre banned then and there... they allow these players to cheat up until that said ban wave.
Also seem to be a bot because it's not that far away from how bots move, compared to this one, also usually people are more cautious over how they move over the map and so on, there are also suicide bots that only spawns and are programed to preform really bad and so on, just to drag down a team as example
The only thing about warthunder and cheaters is the system creates a catch 22. They way the grind is getting banned and having to restart would be horrible even tho u make progress alot quicker so when they do ban people there probably going to wwnt to buy a premium vehicle thus making gaijin more money imo. Obviously this is just my opinion and i could be wrong about that
So 7k a month = 234(ish) players a day that need an evidence folder gathered then the process of banning them carried out. But they need to shift through 10s of thousands of reports to actually find the 234 players a day needing to be banned. IMO gaijin are doing not to bad as 233 bans per day is alot of work 🤷🏼♂️
So basically this new Updated Anti Cheat is not working really at all? Its just as good SORRY as Bad as the last anti-cheat we just had before this one? Why the HELL did they even change it then shit they are stupid AF changing it if its not doing any better than the last one.
Problem with that idea is what happens do good in the match and people thinks you're cheating because I think their are false reports and then who knows how long the investigation go because it gaijin
i feel they should not fully automate the banning system. If they do that people who dont cheat and that are good or competent at the game will get banned for no reason because of how salty people can be when you kill them. If the way they have it is hands on that should prevent most innocent non cheating players from getting banned.
Meh' i'll disagree with you on "you can't be good if all you do is bully low tier" anything after 7.7 is straight garbage IMO. do i still play some 8.0+ every once in a while? Yes. But 8.7 and 10.3/7 is full of one and done Premium trash that makes every match a steamroll one way or the other. 5.3-6.7 is the best the game has to offer IMO. love the content, keep exposing the cheaters.
See as a newer player when you guys say low tier I think of rank one or rank two tanks. A lot of guys play that because they have maxed out Crews so it gives them a distinctive advantage against new people who do not have that.
@ I can see that. Sometime I forget how long I e been playing. To me: 1.0-5.0 bottom tier 5.3-7.3 Low tier 7.7-9.7 mid tier 10-12 Top tier. Just how I see it. Not official. LoL
@Denkmaldrubernacht typically I don't like going above 5.3 because it's just a tiger Fest and most of the stuff I try to take out there am I might as well be shooting at a wall because very rarely do I actually pin a tiger.
Mostly just the bot bombers that bomb then fly straight to the airfield. If you get within 3km of them, good luck! They don’t seem to be as common anymore though.
Arcade does have anti-cheat. Viking has been in arcade for several years now. Its an AI type program that takes screenshots, looks for patterns. Like shooting numerous times at tanks behind rocks, buildings, or tanks that are unspotted. This is partly why the spotting system in arcade is so fucked right now.
BE has been proved to be a garbage the same level as EAC. With some extra as it's ultra invasive compared to EAC, and prone to lot of false flags. Rockstar started to use that on GTA 5 a few months ago. They had to reverse some ban waves as they were banning legit players instead of cheaters... Yep the AC is 'that' good. As I said somewhere else, if Anti-Cheat efficiency were measured in altitude, EAC would cruise at Titanic underwater level, and BE would cruise at Bismark under water level...
i dont think im good at the game im middle of the road i think, used to be good i think, but i do think some tanks/planes/ships are very much better then anything else at that BR like seal clubing vehicles. but that aside i dont think i ever encountered a cheater as far as i know, i mean sure ive died to players i think where cheating like im basically a bush engine off and they instantly see you when driving towards the corner and shoot you, (wiesel or L3 rat gameplay). but more then anything im the most unlucky player there is, i can manage to see the impossible happen T34 american shell absorbed by the armor on a bkan i can manage that 3 shots in a row somehow, nonpen a bmp as a jagdtiger i can manage that 1800 kg bomb on that IS3 when i do it it will survive, when im a maus i die to 57mm HE round from the zsu57-2. or i look noone there and then i look again enemy litterly in my face 0 sound or anything not even visual whilest he drives across the field in front of me, which in replay i can see he was there but not visible to me somehow, (probably my 0 vision crewskill or some mechanic i dont know about. in short its luck based game with some skill that can compensate, but cheaters not encountered one as far as ive sen in 8 years
Bro what the hell you are literally me, but yeah WT has a spotting mechanic and the non-LoS spotting range is soo short you won't hear someone coming from around a corner if your spotting skill is null
"send me proof" yeah, when people are wanting to send you, somehow you always just come up with all the BS cope outs, and then the comment offering the proof disappears magically
@@4T3hM4kr0n this channel. multiple people offered him proofs, and then he just coped out with all sorts of stupid excuses and then those comments just disappeared
@ in other comments he also siad things like he has 20, 30, 50 or whatever number of K/D in arcade with a T-34 (there were multiple numbers he claimed, whichever number he liked that day), that obviously was not true. he does not know the difference between an anticheat and an antivirus too
I have actually seen this happen. Many of the reports that get commented on to prove this, seem to disappear. This channel used to be effective and a force for change, but lately, it has gone downhill. Yes, the snail bans people, but even by his own admission, there are so many cheaters who go unbanned for years. And these are just the most obvious ones. For every blatant cheater, there’s likely a more subtle one who understands how the game works and knows how to avoid detection. This is particularly evident in Air Battles, where someone can fly around the map, seemingly anticipating the movement of players and coming up behind them each game. It could be a skilled player, but it could also be a cheater with ESP who knows where everyone is-the truth is, we’ll never know for sure. Relying on the figures of those who are foolish enough to get banned is also misguided.
If someone is immediately suspended when they get flagged for cheating, that completely defeats the purpose behind the monthly ban waves. Although, it might take more time and effort with the way you'd want it to go.
These monthly bans seem pointless if nothing is done to change the game to detect cheats being used. It feels like it was better in the past when the snail didn't do FA, as the cheaters remained in the top tier, allowing the rest of us to enjoy playing in the lower tiers. What's the point of banning anyone if they aren't actively working to stop cheating? Cheaters can just create new accounts in less than 30 minutes and ruin the experience for new players in lower tiers.
im pretty sure everyone that says theres cheaters every match is the kind of person to get killed by someone that got lucky or outplayed them and then cry about it and call them cheaters...
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suspend players is the most stupid thing i have heard lets say your not a cheater and there is a event then you dont get the tank like think better dude
As a console player I can tell you I can lock on to anything that Flys in clouds behind trees and even mountains it's a built in console feature it's broken af it's like esp
I encounter at least one cheater a day, I’ve since a couple days ago stopped playing, but one a day seems to be the average I’ve seen.
This is more common at 9.0+, and it seems more common during events.
From about 3,000 hours of gameplay total.
Prior to 2020/21, I hardly ever encountered a cheater. Granted the replay function basically didn’t work or was nonexistent. I don’t remember which.
Thanks for another video. I know gaijin is doing something, but it seems like a tarkov cheating situation. Doesn’t matter how many they ban once the cheaters infest the game.
the aimbots have definitley gotten more severe after Battle eye was introduced (twitchy target leading and snap lock on). On the plus side it seems actual people using them rather than just bot accounts.
@ back in 2017-18, I remember a lot of random players acted and played a lot like bots. The population was in a downswing around that time, too.
I did notice a cheater I encountered had a naval record with one 5.7 premium boat was 5000+ kills and 2000+ deaths, and 0 other boats played and only a few premium tanks. Not suspicious at all.
@@4T3hM4kr0n Couldn't be a bug based on the data reading of the replay matches?
Everyday when it hits midnight at 12:00 am EST and into the morning it’s rampant. I call it Chinese horde hours, but I’ve noticed it’s mainly Chinese players hacking. Like I’ll get a cheater almost every two games at those times, when Easy AC got taken down the night before the lobbies were completely full of them every match. I get the anger towards the Chinese, but it’s not just them and I have seen European/North American players do it but it’s rare. I’m growing super tired of it, I wish people didn’t cheat in video games but when a game is competitive you’ll always have losers. It’s getting really old, I really wanna see more crack down from Gaijin and better measures set against these reprobates.
One time I took a wild shot coming out of spawn towards the enemy spawn and got a kill, lol I know I must have been reported, but nothing came of it. It was the Poland map, bottom left side Once in awhile I'll get a hit doing that.
The game have massive pocket loss after last updates
Its probably because of a cheater packet throttling. I only came across it when I was dogfighting, about to get a kill, then suddenly my packet loss went up to 64% allowing whoever was losing the dogfight, to instant kill me. Its probably a lag switch or packet abusing.
@@godofhate4167 nah skill issue
@@憤怒誘餌 nah the skill issue if MFS like you, with your Chinese dogsht cheats can't seem to win without 3rd party crutches
For some reason its only on the NA server as once i only used the other 2 servers they dont have any problems.
It’s horrid in custom battles…
Still can't understand the psychology of cheating? Where is the feeling of satisfaction of having a good game if you cheat? I have a lot more bad games than good ones but when I have a good game it is satisfying.
I have noticed that most cheaters still perform bad even with cheats. My best guess is that these people are just bad so they feel the need to compensate with external assistance.
Because they are horrible at the game and even with cheats they are still are bad, also there is no challenge at doing so,
Their dad never came back with the milk 😂
they suffer because you are better. with the cheats, they are better and you suffer. it's not complicated. bad gamer bored of losing. that's enough.
Some people only enjoy the "You win" part of games
'Gaijin' and 'good faith'? Yeah, I dont think it will work.
I wouldn't be surprised if 1 in 4 matches we were playing with a cheater in the game, Whether it be someone using an illegal sound profile, to just strictly walls with no aim assisting.
I'm not saying this is the case. Just that I wouldn't be surprised. The cough was absolutely the PEAK for cheating.
The sound in this game is absolutely criminal if anything. And I wouldn't even be mad at people for running "Illegal" sound profiles that fix the BS audio in this game. Gladiator did a video recently about the audio.... I've been enjoying my break from the game and that video just solidified my reasoning for not giving Gaijin anymore of my time.
The main reason I've heard games do banwa es rather than banning someone instantly is so it's harder for cheat makers to figure out how the cheats were spotted.
Ban waves mean cheat makers have less info on how the cheats were discovered and they will also recieve an massive overflow of cheaters complaining about being discovered.
This is what I remember at least
The snail is more invested in trying to eradicate the bots from the game right now rather than dealing with the growing number of cheat program users. While the snail loses their war against the bots, the cheat program users are becoming more of a problem since their being mainly ignored and they know it. Yes the snail doesn't cater to the cheat program users but they also don't go directly out of their way to deal with them, the snail puts too much faith in anti cheats to do the job for them which obviously doesn't work.
The cheat programs are generally very subtle in their work which is why so many go unnoticed, some of these cheat program users do go on overboard power trips which throw up the biggest red flag the system can possibly see like the one you showcased a while back flying a G.91, dude thanos'd their entire team in a heart beat just to eradicate the entire enemy team single handedly with bullpups used like radar missiles on steroids and invisible bullets without even firing a shot.
You can even find some of them not only advertising their cheat programs but also showcasing them on TH-cam these days, just yesterday I saw one on my TH-cam front page showcasing an aimbot for ground battles that could actually lead it's target.
imagine instead of a suspension they get put into matches against other cheaters lol
That would be funny
and if they are not a cheater then what?
@ the whole concept the guy said was a suspension while they get investigated. Big whoop if they get put in with cheaters for a few days while theyre investigated
@@grizzlyraidz yeah then tell me if they where not cheating and there was a event going on what if you got suspended MID event you wont get the event tank??? its stupid
@ ok, so are you arguing with me or the creator lol
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Brief Description: Blatant cheater, shot my plane while turning with panther cannon (I want to mention that there was no basic turn, i was using all of my aircraft surfaces to turn tactically) hope you will see it, i will make a ticket to gaijin
L.E.> He starts cheating AFTER losing the Puma (blatant even in the bomber view)
L.L.3.> Obvoius cheating starts arount min. 09:30
I thought Japes was OlySt...i used to watch his Twitch streams since he's friends with BPA_Jon but stopped because he was such an angry dude and honestly, didnt seem that good (hence, his constant state of anger).
If this game makes you that angry, maybe you shouldnt play it constantly.
Your idea with blocking players from the MM while they are cecked for cheats is not that good if it is a false flag, with the way events are if you get false flaged and you can't finish the event because of that it will be bad for gaijin, esp if somebody goes for the 750k cupon , they are at like 700k and they get false flaged and can't get to finish it.That's why i think they don't do it, blocking false flags is bad PR esp with events that are what feels like 24/7 since the changes made at the start of 2024
IMHO if you give people to report a "cheater" and that alleged cheater will get suspended for a certain amount of time, then people will abuse that ability to get people suspended for an amount of time and basically grief people with a "time-out" from the game. Actually some "time-out" from the game may be better for some people out there as it would probably benefit their mental health...IDK...
I get called out for cheats quite often because I tend to play some very annoying and broken over powered tanks.
If those people who are actually just frustrated are reporting me for cheats that would flag my account I assume.
So with your solution I would be stuck without an account until someone reviews my account which could take days, weeks or even months?
Keep in mind that bots farming sl in naval battles are cheaters for gaijin.
I had a Battle Eye update last night, I don’t know if it was everyone else 🤷♂️
i had battle eye update in first day of announcement - it's just not working properly...
@ Ah ok, that doesn’t surprise me 🙄
I got into a game with janos hunyadi yesterday he got a nuke in 2 minutes just fucking killing everyone on sands of sinai map it as 7.7
I've been playing for over a year, and some day I'll be good enough to advance to rank 2😁
Ah, that video just confirmed what I though of a player using the same plane last night.
Perfect 100% center mass hit with Nord through smoke on my moving SPAA (ItPsV Leopard).
And he had only 'missed' the first pass because I was not 'visible' still he did shot and the first nord hit the rocks I was hiding behind.
Now about the amount of cheaters. I have slowed down my amount of playing since the early December as my playtime come around 1am-6am (GMT) and at that time, when playing BR Sweden 8.7, France 7.7, or just going for a PVE helicopter battle I do meet my share of cheaters and extra suspicious behavior.
I have slowed down because it was an amount near 1 every 4-5 match and those were the blatant ones. The one that when you watch the replay show EVERY single 'features' you expose here on the channel in every videos. Granted, when I can play along the day or evening (EU time) I tend to have a bit less of those situation.
And now that BE has been added, last night was a real streak of cheating or very suspicious situations. Between people who know where you are when you have not shoted, hidden from sight never being exposed, nor spotted and engine stopped, or just people who get those perfect shot through layers and layers of trees or smoke (at BR without any thermal). I even called a guy about it last night who answered "skill issue" and then "learn to play" and started to be abrasive, and strangely enough... the replay showing his gun moving around from invisible target to invisible targets and some of those legendary 'no tree shall impact my aiming' kind of kills through layers of forested area.
And it get even funnier when you see some CC videos exposing cheaters (one of the recent Codemine showing an asian player shooting down the whole flight in less than a few seconds).
Yes there are probably not cheaters in EVERY battle, still it start to feel more and more like GTA 5 or Escape from Tarkov than Warthunder from 8 to 10 years ago. When the cheaters were very very small in numbers and when you were encountering them only once every couple days if you were unlucky, and once every other weeks more normaly. And even then you had to know what to look for to know about the cheating.
The actual situation is much much worse than then and switching from EAC to BE is not going to solve the issue. BUT BE being notorious for it's abundance of false flag, and being able to be invasive by exploring more on your computer than what is linked to Warthunder only, I would not be surprised to see Gaijin being the next Rockstar and having perfectly legit players being banned and robbed of their invested money and time.
I really wish they had chosen a better AC or had invested some of that money they earned in a real security team AND done something internally. But that would mean they do care about players retention, and actually they are clearly not. They know they are a very 'one of a kind' with no competition, and they don't mind the huge player turnout. And here are a few of the reasons.
1) A higher number of player would mean they have to upgrade their servers to handle more players (that's costly and Gaijin have proved us so many time on how greedy and cheap they are)
2) A high retention mean a lot of players are 'happy' and once they have bought a few premium they are not 'cost effective' for Gaijin as a player who use the servers without buying a premium vehicle regularly AND premium time, is only a 'waste' of money for Gaijin (server use without monetary return, see point 1)
3) Gaijin whole marketing is to have player frustrated, slashing more and more reward to push people into buying premium time and vehicles. So having 'happy' player is not something they want as it would go against their Marketing behavior. (And we all know how hard it is for a company to admit they are wrong and they did pick the wrong choice at a time).
So, having cheaters in the game kinda help them with all those points. Those cheaters are a 'free frustration' generator. Those players tend to push those older player that are non-cost effective away. And those cheaters also would cost much much more to be treated faster and more efficiently.
Thing is, we have seen some of those blatant cheaters reach 10k to 30k battles without being banned... So even if Gaijin are doing ban waves, my opinion is that they are mostly banning bots that grind. As those bots tend to be easy targets for players and help players grind.
(That was the situation in December 2023, around 10.3 Air RB and 6.0 Air RB, massive number of bots running bombers that were easy prey for not fighting back and not even dodging anything.
At the time at BR 10.3 you had battles with up to 4-5 bots in BOTH teams. Making them easy targets even for stock planes. I know as I did grind my share of stock planes on them (9.7 squad Hunter, 10.3 F-4C, etc..) and those disappeared on the ban wave and I have barely seen any such bots in those BR since then. )
And bots are much easier to detect too. So banning bot give Gaijin some 'good press review' as they can say "Hey look we just banned X amount of account", while not tackling the REAL issue that much.
And finally, where Air RB has lost a lot of those bots, the helicopter PVE seem to be the new Eldorado for them. Having seen a huge influx of players in that mode that do not answer on the chat, and act very suspiciously or have some very "bot-like" behavior. The kind to park at high altitude, and never even try to dodge any convoy or front spawn that happen just under them. Scoring a few death in the battle and quitting at the 30 minute mark.
I really hope the game will not reach a critical level like GTA 5 did, but Gaijin are doing exactly like Rockstar in that department, they don't care at all. They do care about smacking down anyone showing how easy it is to cheat in the game. And I'm surprised this channel has not been downed by strikes so far. When you know how they did strike a lot of videos exposing cheaters and cheating in the game so far.
I think he's starting to bend the knee. Always defending gaijin when they actively screw over everyone. Prob trying to become a CC
If i get banned becouse of Clasroomcloud bcs of my school, I am going to be SO mad
@@Thatguyboogerbush-gp9db Was not saying this against W.T.C.S, just giving a pretty strong opinion against Gaijin. WTCS do a very nice job to expose those cheaters. When I meet players in games who say 'what cheaters', I tell them to come here and check what it look like.
Right now, the thing is, I play a lot of SPAA, and not rushing forward as I try to provide cover peoples spawning in helicopters and the planes that come quick after the first captures. That give me a bit of time to check on the stats when some strange kill streak happen.
@stephanguerry1405 i stick by what I said lol, but I do agree with both things u said, fuq gaijin, and wtcs is doing a good thing, but he's too easy on gaijin. They are fuqn crooks.
@@Thatguyboogerbush-gp9db If WTCS was going 'full charge' on Gaijin, they would strike his channel in minutes.
They are 'THAT' bad. As we have seen in the recent months and years. Anytime some YT channel expose cheaters in a very harsh and strong way, and give visual proofs with information of what was used, they have been crushed and stroked to death. So far W.T.C.S. do seem to navigate the thin line without being a risk for them.
Still WTCS do provide every players with a visual of what cheating is in Warthunder.
To be honest I don't personally pay much attention to my own games to see if somebody cheats, but in last 3 months I found 2 cheaters in my own games. 1 t80ue1 level 19 on the enemy team got a nuke,checked replay and found out he is using kind of aim bot. The second 1 was a tiger 2h in mid tier who got fast 8 kill in match level 29 or sth, watched replays turned out he is cheating. I may send the IDs of these players for you.
The guys who say I meet cheaters every match mostly are low level and inexperienced players who get out played by better players, it is my personal experience that they would call me a cheater cause sometimes I out play them.
heres my problem with the bans... they seem to ban in waves and not like other games like when a cheater is detected theyre banned then and there... they allow these players to cheat up until that said ban wave.
Also seem to be a bot because it's not that far away from how bots move, compared to this one, also usually people are more cautious over how they move over the map and so on, there are also suicide bots that only spawns and are programed to preform really bad and so on, just to drag down a team as example
The only thing about warthunder and cheaters is the system creates a catch 22. They way the grind is getting banned and having to restart would be horrible even tho u make progress alot quicker so when they do ban people there probably going to wwnt to buy a premium vehicle thus making gaijin more money imo. Obviously this is just my opinion and i could be wrong about that
So 7k a month = 234(ish) players a day that need an evidence folder gathered then the process of banning them carried out. But they need to shift through 10s of thousands of reports to actually find the 234 players a day needing to be banned.
IMO gaijin are doing not to bad as 233 bans per day is alot of work 🤷🏼♂️
So basically this new Updated Anti Cheat is not working really at all? Its just as good SORRY as Bad as the last anti-cheat we just had before this one? Why the HELL did they even change it then shit they are stupid AF changing it if its not doing any better than the last one.
Problem with that idea is what happens do good in the match and people thinks you're cheating because I think their are false reports and then who knows how long the investigation go because it gaijin
i feel they should not fully automate the banning system. If they do that people who dont cheat and that are good or competent at the game will get banned for no reason because of how salty people can be when you kill them. If the way they have it is hands on that should prevent most innocent non cheating players from getting banned.
Automated systems are easier for cheaters to work around too. That is partly why battlefield 5 was so bad
Meh' i'll disagree with you on "you can't be good if all you do is bully low tier" anything after 7.7 is straight garbage IMO. do i still play some 8.0+ every once in a while? Yes. But 8.7 and 10.3/7 is full of one and done Premium trash that makes every match a steamroll one way or the other. 5.3-6.7 is the best the game has to offer IMO.
love the content, keep exposing the cheaters.
See as a newer player when you guys say low tier I think of rank one or rank two tanks. A lot of guys play that because they have maxed out Crews so it gives them a distinctive advantage against new people who do not have that.
@ I can see that. Sometime I forget how long I e been playing. To me:
1.0-5.0 bottom tier
5.3-7.3 Low tier
7.7-9.7 mid tier
10-12 Top tier.
Just how I see it. Not official. LoL
Honestly I view 4.0-9.7 the most skilled ground BRs.
@Denkmaldrubernacht typically I don't like going above 5.3 because it's just a tiger Fest and most of the stuff I try to take out there am I might as well be shooting at a wall because very rarely do I actually pin a tiger.
8.0 is where the suffering starts imo. Trying to play German 8.0 is pure pain.
Full of morons isn't a good explanation that's just saying it lightly.
How is the cheating situation in air modes?
Mostly just the bot bombers that bomb then fly straight to the airfield. If you get within 3km of them, good luck! They don’t seem to be as common anymore though.
You know arcade doesn't need anti cheat right?? They all start in arcade then get sick if the grind and no nukes so the risk realistic
Arcade does have anti-cheat. Viking has been in arcade for several years now. Its an AI type program that takes screenshots, looks for patterns. Like shooting numerous times at tanks behind rocks, buildings, or tanks that are unspotted. This is partly why the spotting system in arcade is so fucked right now.
so much for changing to battleye, right gaijin ?
Why do i have a feeling the av change did nothing.
BE has been proved to be a garbage the same level as EAC. With some extra as it's ultra invasive compared to EAC, and prone to lot of false flags.
Rockstar started to use that on GTA 5 a few months ago. They had to reverse some ban waves as they were banning legit players instead of cheaters...
Yep the AC is 'that' good. As I said somewhere else, if Anti-Cheat efficiency were measured in altitude, EAC would cruise at Titanic underwater level, and BE would cruise at Bismark under water level...
i dont think im good at the game im middle of the road i think, used to be good i think, but i do think some tanks/planes/ships are very much better then anything else at that BR like seal clubing vehicles.
but that aside i dont think i ever encountered a cheater as far as i know, i mean sure ive died to players i think where cheating like im basically a bush engine off and they instantly see you when driving towards the corner and shoot you, (wiesel or L3 rat gameplay).
but more then anything im the most unlucky player there is, i can manage to see the impossible happen T34 american shell absorbed by the armor on a bkan i can manage that 3 shots in a row somehow, nonpen a bmp as a jagdtiger i can manage that 1800 kg bomb on that IS3 when i do it it will survive, when im a maus i die to 57mm HE round from the zsu57-2.
or i look noone there and then i look again enemy litterly in my face 0 sound or anything not even visual whilest he drives across the field in front of me, which in replay i can see he was there but not visible to me somehow, (probably my 0 vision crewskill or some mechanic i dont know about.
in short its luck based game with some skill that can compensate, but cheaters not encountered one as far as ive sen in 8 years
Bro what the hell you are literally me, but yeah WT has a spotting mechanic and the non-LoS spotting range is soo short you won't hear someone coming from around a corner if your spotting skill is null
"send me proof"
yeah, when people are wanting to send you, somehow you always just come up with all the BS cope outs, and then the comment offering the proof disappears magically
you talking about gaijin or this youtube channel?
@@4T3hM4kr0n this channel. multiple people offered him proofs, and then he just coped out with all sorts of stupid excuses and then those comments just disappeared
@ in other comments he also siad things like he has 20, 30, 50 or whatever number of K/D in arcade with a T-34 (there were multiple numbers he claimed, whichever number he liked that day), that obviously was not true.
he does not know the difference between an anticheat and an antivirus too
I have actually seen this happen. Many of the reports that get commented on to prove this, seem to disappear. This channel used to be effective and a force for change, but lately, it has gone downhill.
Yes, the snail bans people, but even by his own admission, there are so many cheaters who go unbanned for years. And these are just the most obvious ones. For every blatant cheater, there’s likely a more subtle one who understands how the game works and knows how to avoid detection. This is particularly evident in Air Battles, where someone can fly around the map, seemingly anticipating the movement of players and coming up behind them each game. It could be a skilled player, but it could also be a cheater with ESP who knows where everyone is-the truth is, we’ll never know for sure.
Relying on the figures of those who are foolish enough to get banned is also misguided.
@@Skippyonpcwould have to agree with this comment.
If someone is immediately suspended when they get flagged for cheating, that completely defeats the purpose behind the monthly ban waves. Although, it might take more time and effort with the way you'd want it to go.
plus imagine being suspended for a week of event because some asshole decided he wanted to report you after a full legit kill
These monthly bans seem pointless if nothing is done to change the game to detect cheats being used.
It feels like it was better in the past when the snail didn't do FA, as the cheaters remained in the top tier, allowing the rest of us to enjoy playing in the lower tiers.
What's the point of banning anyone if they aren't actively working to stop cheating? Cheaters can just create new accounts in less than 30 minutes and ruin the experience for new players in lower tiers.
If its a French name you speak the last letter out as an E and not an I :)
im pretty sure everyone that says theres cheaters every match is the kind of person to get killed by someone that got lucky or outplayed them and then cry about it and call them cheaters...
Hello found another cheater, suddenly some pathetic russian/chinese steam ``moderator`` banned me because of that. xDxD
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imagine being "suspended pending investigation" every other week.
happy you not in charge of security 😂