I loved Windows 2000, aside from the like several millions of patches, it was a fantastic operating system on my old HP (700 Mhz Celeron w/384 megs of ram in a 256 and 128 stick.)
***** lol it was a surprise I didn't expect it to work either so I was excited to say the least Now I just have to learn how to crack the windows password.
I see no problem using a SD card for operating system on older machines. the PATA standard were only able to push around 25-30 MB/s anyways. on good hardware... Seems like a decent "upgrade" - i do it on my PIII 1400. and it works like a charm
Having been inspired by Phil's Computer Lab's videos on re-purposing Thin Clients as retro gaming PC's, I recently bought an HP T5710 Thin Client for playing Win9x games, along with some early XP-era games. I also ordered one of those SD card to 44-pin IDE adapters, as well as a 32GB SDHC card. I also still have a 16GB SDHC card lying around. For my setup, I was thinking about installing Windows 98 Second Edition on my 16GB card, and Windows 2000/XP on my 32GB card. I still intend to continue using DOSBox to play DOS games, as well as running Windows 3.1, on my more modern systems. And as for playing select adventure games, such as the pre-2002 Humongous Entertainment games, there's ScummVM for that.
You absolute mad lad, you are like a mix match of MJD, LGR and Eric Andre and that's frikin awesome. I just discovered your channel and I'm definitely enjoying each video lmao
Why SD instead of Compact Flash? CF is IDE and the CF to IDE doesn't have any chip, it's directly while SD to IDE adaptor needs a chip that causes delay.
MrEduedu123 Yup, I can second that. I refuse to pay so much for Cf cards. When I get around to doing my own "solid state" retro of laptop, I'm planning on SD cards.
Amazon links to the parts used is in the description. Just be sure to format the SD card as FAT32 on another computer before installation. Using the WIN2K setup to format the card seems to cause problems. Your laptop's BIOS should recognize the adapter with the SD card in it as a working hard disk.
SD cards like the one you used should actually be about as fast as, if not faster than hard drives from the early 2000s. My Dell Latitude D600 (2003/2005) has a 60GB Mini IDE HDD with sequential read speeds of somewhere between 30 - 40MB/s, plus random read/write speeds are much faster because it's flash memory.
Why 2000 and not XP? Anyway, recently I installed Windows 8.1 on a 9 year old Dell Inspiron. I recommended its owners an SDD as a replacement for their dying HDD with Win XP on it. The problem was that XP didn't come with ATAPI drivers for that particular controller, so the XP setup process couldn't even start. But 8.1 worked perfectly fine. Even though it was still SATA 1.5 Gbps, improvement was massive. Boot time was great, 3 Gigs of RAM is more than enough for 8.1 to run just fine (I used to run it on 2GB) m, and the only real problem was the CPU, an old Sempron Mobile, incapable of playing 480p videos on TH-cam, unless you're ok with slideshows. Even GPU drivers for Vista worked!
It does only because XP has a bitmap-based gui and some more visual effects turned on by default and you can turn all of them off, as well as some unnecessary services. They're almost the same OS, only a year apart.
Win 2000 always has a special place in my heart. It was really polished, junk-free and felt like everything was right where it should be. XP felt like everything was glued together, not in the best way... Afterwards, well.. I had some hopes for Longhorn, but it turned into Vista.
I have a great idea for your next video. If the 3ds supports an SD card slot, can u download windows 2000 on a 3ds? (its a dumb question, but I want to see you try)
***** Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 is also available for Laptops and Desktops. Can you install Windows 8.1 on your Laptop? Also, install Windows 7 on your Old PC!
I recently installed and successfully booted Mac OS 9 from a Micro SDHC card on my Titanium Powerbook G4. The boot time was 2 minutes, 10 seconds, whereas it only takes 1 minute, 20 seconds using the laptop's internal hard drive.
To be honest - the card itself isn't typically the slowdown. I've ran W10 64-bit of an 32GB Sandisk using a sata adapter, and it runs just fine. However a SD-card reader really doesn't do it justice.
imo the biggest drawback of using an SD card as a bootdrive is the fact its not designed for it, so it will have a much shorter life span than a HDD or SSD and having faster read and write times doesnt help as it will go through more of its maximum write and read capabilities in a shorter period of time.
Great vid! Since you've made this video, Samsung's PRO has allowed 32-64 GB cards with both read AND write speeds around 100 MB/s. I've been using them to run a few OS' and they work for me about the same speed as a performance HDD like an older Scorpio Black. The computer I use runs the SDXC reader through PCI Express, which I think helps because the speeds seem to be more consistent than readers routing through USB 3.
I recall that HDDs back in the early 2000's had way smaller read/write speeds than that SD card. Also, your access time will be way better.. Should be quite snappy IMO.
+Druaga1 hi, I was looking at that laptop and by any chance is the samsung x05 related at all to the gateway 200ARC They look almost EXACTLY the same and I have one here xD
the gamer god 1337 dude dont call someone an idiot just because he wanna install windows xp on a mirco sd card its his computer he can do whatever he want
the gamer god 1337 you cant "download windows 10" on laptops that is older than windows 7 so u need to BOOT the device plus old laptops's CPU clock speed are too slow for windows 10
I actually have an old Compaq Armada M300 laptop, docking station (with cd/floppy drive), etc.. and bought that exact same SD to IDE Adapter for it before finding your video. I wanted to install Windows 2000 on it and ran into the formatting bug you mention. However, I was only able to get my 32gb SD Card to format as an 8063mb drive. Fine really, but was wondering how you pre-staged the format on your SD Card. I tried a Windows 98 Bootdisk, used Fdisk, created 32gb (29,xxx mb) partition, formatted as FAT32, and when I went to install Windows 2000 it saw the partition as corrupt or invalid. Only after I booted off an XP cd and went through the initial setup steps, just prior to copying any files, it let me format the drive, but only as an 8063mb partition. I then cancelled setup (by powering the machine off as it was about to copy files), swapped back to the Windows 2000 CD and tried again. This time it considered the FAT32 partition as valid and let me install onto it. Only problem, it's 8gb in size instead of 32. Again, not really an issue, just messing around, but was curious how you got the full 32gb to work on yours if you remember, @Druaga1
+louis tournas I feel your pain my dear sibling. Windows 8 ( maybe 10 as wel ) is too "squary" and opaque. plus the purple... and the whole app thing... good god.
Kbolter NORRIS Ya, full screen applications. What the heck is that about? Why are the menus with white background? Have you seen Office 365. Why is every background white or pale grey? Why are the buttons flat?
louis tournas I haven't used 365 ( libreoffice, Micro$hit keeps getting steamrolled by open source and/or free software lol ). But yes, the fucking squares may sound well but... ugh... not so much in practice, no, not good. they had to use squares... for everything. which makes everything look...flat... flatter than a fucking piece of paper good lord. They clearly didn't have beta testing. If they did... Win 8 wouldn't be such crap. I have a question, does windows 8 tend to get, you know, "bloaty"? 'cause that's a problem with WIndows 7 apparently. you install it and it works wonders. after one month it get ultra bloaty and slugish for no reason ( I am thinking about those hundreds of Windows updates... ) .
I run Linux in an old 4 GB SD card I had lying around (those we used in cameras remember) Xubuntu 16.04 in this case (rock solid version akin to Win7. I run all my Windows apps using Wine (windows emulator) and my whole "windows drive" only takes 50MB of space, which can be compressed down to 20MB for cloud backups. And I can load each app in its separate windows "drive" if I want to, very handy. I dare to say that I'm having better compatibility with old software than I had using Windows itself. They made everything in their hands to turn things into a complicated mess. Blessed be all the linux gurus out there. Life is so much easier now, you guys should try it. It's crazy because I don't even have Linux installed, it runs "live" from the SD card and copy all system files to small RAMdisks, this way the system is lightning fast and you increase the lifespan of your physical disks. It can see NTFS partitions too!! Did I forgot something? I think not, pretty heavy marketing over here huh... I'm just spreading the good stuff out there
windows 2000 was amazing to run instead of running head against wall with all sorts of bugs and quirk with windows xp vanilla and SP1. Then changed when SP2 had matured XP
That's not too bad at all, considering back in the days we were using ATA33,ATA66, or ATA100/133. Even if the bus ranges from 33-133MB/s you would be lucky if you can pull average 4-8MB/s off of a legacy IDE drive, which Windows 2000 used to run on. This SD card capable of 30MB/s is already a lot faster. Conversely, the bottleneck of older machines such as the Pentium II or Pentium III even P4 was the hard drive. I recently installed an SSD into one of those machines and the performance was above what I expected.
Not bad. I installed Windows XP on a slim PC from a couple of years ago, running a dual core atom and some low spec radeon (or is it nvidia) "card". I use it for older games which just don't run on modern systems. I never installed 2000 so I was a bit surprised to hear you say it is lighter than XP. OK, not TOO surprised. 30mb/s is not bad, I remember having hard drives slower than that (for example an internal WD for my Amiga 1200).
I'm actually planning on installing Windows 95 on a 8GB SD Card myself...we'll see how well that pans out. Stupid IBM SurePOST BIOS getting picky with CompactFlash "hard drives" for some reason.
What brand is that adapter? Hexin? I have a similar one, but only SATA. I am trying to build a case for it, since I don't want to risk anything in terms of short circutry inside my PC. Did you made a speed test yet, made with h2testw_1.4 ?
The adapter seems to be a brandless thing out of China. (see the link in description) It took weeks to arrive in the mail. I have yet to do any speed/benchmark tests with this particular card/adapter.
Druaga1, I'm trying something even slower tomorrow, installing Windows 98 on a 2 gb class 4 sd card on a device with a 728 mb CPU and 88 mb of ram emulated in DOSbox. If you are wondering what the device is, it's a Nintendo wii softmodded with homebrew channel
Does the adapter you are using need power to operate? I looked at this same adapter in your video on Ebay for more detailed photos and cannot find any power connectors on them. So it just plugs into the IDE cable and that's it? Years ago I bought one of those IDE to Compact Flash adapters ironically to replace a failed hard drive in a Gateway also running Windows 2000. This adapter uses a 4 pin power cable that would normally power a second 3.5" floppy drive. From the best of my memory, the computer didn't recognize the 16GB Compact Flash card in the BIOS. However a closer shows a jumper pin (5 volts versus 3.3 volts). So how do you know which voltage setting to use? I still have the computer, the adapter and compact flash card. I thought I'd give it another shot one day.
I ended up trying that IDE adapter/32 MB compact flash drive in a newer computer and installed XP on it and it works but it hangs up at times. Since then I recycled a 1 TB SATA hard drive from an old Dell Laptop that literally fell apart and it works great. Does using an SD card work any better than a compact flash card as far as hanging up? Does it work any better running Windows 2000 versus XP? I'm thinking there are less programs running the background with Windows 2000 than XP and that may explain why it may work better.
Just added a CF drive ( Lexar 1066 mb's ) to old asrock K8NF3-VSTA motherboard self build and my experience has been that the read times are great but the write times in certain situations takes about twice as long, I believe this is because of a lack of hard drive buffer or too little buffer. Normally a sata drive has as least 64 Gb of buffer, these cards probably have little to none because the hard drive buffer is located on the camera's motherboard, also I shortened my boot time by 17 seconds after installing the chipset drivers, now it only takes 45 sec to get to the desktop after a reboot.
this sd card goes about as fast as a udma/33 drive anyway, which was about how fast drives went when windows 2000 came out, newer 66mb/s drives were available, but 33 was still pretty common
You have to isolate the PCB of the IDE to SD adapter if it is almost on a metal surface. Otherwise you will have a short circuit. That is also probably why it stopped detecting the IDE to SD adapter.
if anything, they should also develop an interface that allows one SD card to be recognized as a Floppy disk drive, hard disk drive, and CD-ROM drive all from one card reader for old computers. I mean, we might have these following files on one SD card in the future: a .img file (floppy disk) a .vhd file (hard disk) a .iso file (CD-ROM) in theory one SD card could serve as a multi-device emulator for the hardware level.
think I'm gonna try this on an old 2005 Satellite I have hanging around. Last I checked much of the drivers do work with windows 2000 (even though its made for XP). The Hard Drive is starting to crap out anyway so I'll be an interesting little project.
Try it on a SanDisk Extreme UHS-1 90mb/s and it will not at all be so slow. Yes, read times are always much faster than write times. Also I have a second system always working from an sd card and when I first installed the o.s. every time i would boot it would stop recognizing the card (or adapter) turns out it was a setting on the bios, I don't remember which setting.
It can't be any slower than the HP 2133 did. Legitimately, from a USB stick, Windows XP would have taken SIX HOURS to copy files to the hard drive for installing. Thank god I had a PXE option on the side.
im super confused? i have a dell inspirion 1501 laptop running windows xp media center edition 2005 and whenever i try to install a os like windows 2000 off of a usb flash drive a min after the windows 2000 setup screen it gives me the Blue screen of death and it says INACESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE Please help! it does this with the older Operating systems!
Boy you could easily install Windows 8.1 (x86) on that card and still install a tiny lot of updated software for productivity and light gaming ( my current 8.1 setup takes only 18.7GB with updates and all). If you chose to upgrade the card to a microSD class 4 (using the SD adapter) or higher it would even be way faster, I did that on a HP mini 1020la through the built-in card reader leaving the entire 160GB HDD for storage. The wonder of that is I don´t need to dual boot or anything (that sometimes is not as simple) I can boot XP or 8.1 simply by swapping cards. The only little trick to get XP rolling was to use RUFUS 1.4 to prepare the files to be installed on USB media as the reader is detected as USB despite being built-in. For the driver issues on any Windows version from 2000 and higher you can use a freeware tool called slimdrivers by slimware utilities, it automatically searches for the drivers online after scanning your machine and let´s you choose which to install......
you turned that sd card into an ssd card
lol
Oxy and Icy LOL
lol
Oxy and Icy not bad
lol
Windows 2000 running flash smoothly and also showing a website like it should be
Not THAT'S even more amazing
+Dyo Kasparov Windows 2000 is really like a lightweight version of XP, so it's not surprising. It was only released a year earlier.
+RobertGAMING HD Win. 2000 Was Released In The Year 2000, But It was released to manufacturing in 1999.
+RobertGAMING HD W2K was released to public on Feb 14th 2000.
+Dyo Kasparov Windows ME can run flash okay.
deltadragonoid225
Even Windows 98 can.
Thats no Problem just add another 'S' to 'SD' and you have a super fast Drive.
xD
how
Oh
Technically it's solid state
Systremor technicly its alolid state drive
For a 14 year old laptop, it's running Firefox/TH-cam very well. WIndows 2000 is still my favorite version - I used it for years.
I loved Windows 2000, aside from the like several millions of patches, it was a fantastic operating system on my old HP (700 Mhz Celeron w/384 megs of ram in a 256 and 128 stick.)
NT 5.x is basically the gold standard of windows
Windows 2000 boots faster then my windows 10 laptop lol
Found a Gateway 2000 solo 9100 at a swapmeet. Unbelievably it runs and I booted it up and damn it really is fairly quick.
Dayummm :)
*****
lol it was a surprise I didn't expect it to work either so I was excited to say the least
Now I just have to learn how to crack the windows password.
Windows 2000 is smaller than windows 10 and 2000 is much older
+Stuff1646 my windows 10 boots on 5 to 10 sec
I see no problem using a SD card for operating system on older machines. the PATA standard were only able to push around 25-30 MB/s anyways. on good hardware...
Seems like a decent "upgrade" - i do it on my PIII 1400. and it works like a charm
Person: why did you install Windows 2000 on a flash drive?
Me: because science isn’t about why. it’s about why not.
just for the sake of i don't know
Is it just me or does Druaga sound really "sane" in his older videos lol, did you smoke less weed back then? :P
I think he did
lol, that's right
I guess, it makes sense.
I thought I recognized your OC from somewhere, you're @EpicLPer, I follow you on Twitter xD
Nice! :D
EpicLPer I always randomly find people I know from Twitter on TH-cam, it's crazy x3
"Been sitting here for five minutes!" Still faster than my actual computer's boot up time.
lol
i know right my computer takes about 60x that
^ I'm broke as shit
+legosavantfun it is sold
mine takes like 2 minutes to boot but takes 200000 years to get to the login screen due to windows 8 being shitty
And here I am, almost 8 years later, watching THIS video on windows 2000.
You know I had to come back and watch this again. -long time sub
Having been inspired by Phil's Computer Lab's videos on re-purposing Thin Clients as retro gaming PC's, I recently bought an HP T5710 Thin Client for playing Win9x games, along with some early XP-era games. I also ordered one of those SD card to 44-pin IDE adapters, as well as a 32GB SDHC card. I also still have a 16GB SDHC card lying around. For my setup, I was thinking about installing Windows 98 Second Edition on my 16GB card, and Windows 2000/XP on my 32GB card. I still intend to continue using DOSBox to play DOS games, as well as running Windows 3.1, on my more modern systems. And as for playing select adventure games, such as the pre-2002 Humongous Entertainment games, there's ScummVM for that.
You absolute mad lad, you are like a mix match of MJD, LGR and Eric Andre and that's frikin awesome.
I just discovered your channel and I'm definitely enjoying each video lmao
FunFact: Windows 2000 [Copyright 1985-1999]
Another FunFact: I'm running an old Windows 2000 PC with 2 TB external Drives as Network drives
+Homer Simpson fun fact: nobody cares
+Homer Simpson Because you spend all that money on donuts and beer and things to make Flanders disappear?
YEAH my main computer is iMac g3
+Homer Simpson kek
Druaga : "If It's Gonna Blue Screen, It's Gonna Do It Right Here."
Me : "It's Not Gonna Blue Screen, This Video Is Only 12 Minutes Long."
Why SD instead of Compact Flash?
CF is IDE and the CF to IDE doesn't have any chip, it's directly while SD to IDE adaptor needs a chip that causes delay.
Well I think the main reason is because compact flash is somewhat expensive and unavailable
MrEduedu123 Yup, I can second that. I refuse to pay so much for Cf cards. When I get around to doing my own "solid state" retro of laptop, I'm planning on SD cards.
Woah!Can you tell me how to get the thing to allow SD cards to be configured as hard drives!My Windows ME laptop died and I want to put 2000 on it!
Amazon links to the parts used is in the description. Just be sure to format the SD card as FAT32 on another computer before installation. Using the WIN2K setup to format the card seems to cause problems. Your laptop's BIOS should recognize the adapter with the SD card in it as a working hard disk.
Yeah.I've tried booting off of a CD,and it doesn't work.My drive is busted.This will really help.Thanks!
Brian Tylo
No problem. Good luck!
Brian Tylo buy IDE SSD, this is best solution
+Druaga1 Well, Can you ship the SD card to me?
It would be cool if you tried it on a iPhone..
"you're an idiot, and you're right" XD
SD cards like the one you used should actually be about as fast as, if not faster than hard drives from the early 2000s. My Dell Latitude D600 (2003/2005) has a 60GB Mini IDE HDD with sequential read speeds of somewhere between 30 - 40MB/s, plus random read/write speeds are much faster because it's flash memory.
SSD = Slow SD
SSD = Snappy SD
ThisIsOurGen SSD = shitty San disk
SDD
shy check out this video th-cam.com/video/EvobT4RKA2Y/w-d-xo.html
SSD = Super Slow Drives
Good that you didn't fry anything. There are bare solder joints touching(or almost touching) that metalized sheet in it's HDD compartment.
Why 2000 and not XP?
Anyway, recently I installed Windows 8.1 on a 9 year old Dell Inspiron. I recommended its owners an SDD as a replacement for their dying HDD with Win XP on it. The problem was that XP didn't come with ATAPI drivers for that particular controller, so the XP setup process couldn't even start. But 8.1 worked perfectly fine. Even though it was still SATA 1.5 Gbps, improvement was massive. Boot time was great, 3 Gigs of RAM is more than enough for 8.1 to run just fine (I used to run it on 2GB) m, and the only real problem was the CPU, an old Sempron Mobile, incapable of playing 480p videos on TH-cam, unless you're ok with slideshows. Even GPU drivers for Vista worked!
2000 is faster os
But Windows XP haves more SP
XP is more secure and compatible. Everything else is pretty much the same.
Except windows 2000 runs better on slower hardware
It does only because XP has a bitmap-based gui and some more visual effects turned on by default and you can turn all of them off, as well as some unnecessary services. They're almost the same OS, only a year apart.
Windows 2000 wasnt any less hardware intensive then XP. Thats very common missconception about it. There was 0 reason to use it past 2003.
Installing me on an SD card! How cool! ^_^
That doesnt make any sense
lol i get it XD
dont think 2k tan is a os
He/She changed His/Her username.
ew
Man this video is insane i love it really BCS all this stuff is so hard.
i hope you are still crazy same
Congratulations to you 👏👏
Win 2000 always has a special place in my heart. It was really polished, junk-free and felt like everything was right where it should be. XP felt like everything was glued together, not in the best way... Afterwards, well.. I had some hopes for Longhorn, but it turned into Vista.
Right XD
hurr durr Vista bad when SP2 was one of the best OSes at the time
1:10 Druaga's been loving SSD's for 4 years!
I have a great idea for your next video. If the 3ds supports an SD card slot, can u download windows 2000 on a 3ds? (its a dumb question, but I want to see you try)
Does the 3ds have an x86 processor? As intriguing of an idea as it is, I don't think that would work.
No because the windows ATLEAST need a x86 processor
The 3DS is ARM, not to mention the bootloader, so not even close to possible.
Probably possible to emulate windows 2000
Back when druaga wasn't doing crazy things, but this video was probably his start into the descent into ssd madness
Nice! I love this OS,it is way better than Windows 8!
***** Please upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 on your Compaq Presario CQ58. Please upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7.
I completely agree!!!
Eric Graz Yeah. I hope he needs to upgrade to Windows 8.1.
Fuck 8.1! XP&7 4 life!
***** Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 is also available for Laptops and Desktops. Can you install Windows 8.1 on your Laptop? Also, install Windows 7 on your Old PC!
His voice is so relaxing it’s 12:38 and I’m having trouble sleeping. This guy might put me to sleep with great tech stuff I like lol
yeah, there are like 2 videos where hes normal. everywhere else he is either high or insane.
Theres no "HEY SMOKERS :D!!!" just "hey, druga 1 here :(" YOURE NOT DRUAGA!!!
This is an old vid :P
I recently installed and successfully booted Mac OS 9 from a Micro SDHC card on my Titanium Powerbook G4.
The boot time was 2 minutes, 10 seconds, whereas it only takes 1 minute, 20 seconds using the laptop's internal hard drive.
+Druaga1 you should do a Windows NT video
Levi Kleinschmidt this is it
I meant Windows NT Workstation 4.0
lol
theres nothing really to do on it other than some software
Not 5.0
Actually just burned a copy of Windows 2000 today for an older HP laptop. So watching what you just did was pretty cool!
Now proof Linus wrong and run Windows 10 on an SD card faster/more efficient then he did.
To be honest - the card itself isn't typically the slowdown. I've ran W10 64-bit of an 32GB Sandisk using a sata adapter, and it runs just fine. However a SD-card reader really doesn't do it justice.
Just saying that the SD read/write speed is better than some SATA HDD's i have...
Hard drives are slower because they have moving parts and SD cards dont but hard drives are cheaper for internal storage
imo the biggest drawback of using an SD card as a bootdrive is the fact its not designed for it, so it will have a much shorter life span than a HDD or SSD and having faster read and write times doesnt help as it will go through more of its maximum write and read capabilities in a shorter period of time.
Great vid! Since you've made this video, Samsung's PRO has allowed 32-64 GB cards with both read AND write speeds around 100 MB/s. I've been using them to run a few OS' and they work for me about the same speed as a performance HDD like an older Scorpio Black. The computer I use runs the SDXC reader through PCI Express, which I think helps because the speeds seem to be more consistent than readers routing through USB 3.
SD Hard Disksk are the good solution for a Cheap Harddisk; Sandisk makes an 200GB SD card.
But; try using USB 3.0 for HDD; USB 3.0 has a Faster Read/Write Speed then SD cards. Speeds close to Sata III.
Rocky Lincourt But if one was using an old laptop, you can't use usb 3.0
you can if you install a usb 3.0 port, but will the usb drivers for the older OS support usb 3.0 is the problem.
+Rocky Lincourt You can't install USB 3.0 ports on laptops.
+Jeremy Clarkson Yes, you can... Through the PCM/CIA card slot. I have such a card made by iOmega.
I recall that HDDs back in the early 2000's had way smaller read/write speeds than that SD card. Also, your access time will be way better.. Should be quite snappy IMO.
Is that 6beat.mod I hear?
Thisismailazor Right, it is! But can You tell me the mod name starting at 5:01 ? Plz ;)
PrzeszczepiX I guess the description is somewhat incorrect. It's ACME - guardian dragon
Druaga1 Very much thanks man!
+Druaga1 hi, I was looking at that laptop and by any chance is the samsung x05 related at all to the gateway 200ARC They look almost EXACTLY the same and I have one here xD
The Multichannel
If your laptop has the same CPU (or similar on the same socket) and same chipset, it will be big chance it will work ;)
to be fair 32 gigs was probably overkill for 2000
I'm going to install windows xp on a micro SD card
Because Windows 10 is bad
wrong
the gamer god 1337 dude dont call someone an idiot just because he wanna install windows xp on a mirco sd card its his computer he can do whatever he want
@@definitelythatguyred you are right.
Windows 2000 Professional was the high point for MS OSs.
NO more views needed
I used Windows 2000 for a while, from around 2002 up until around 2007.
windows 2000 on an sd card?
+Lolu Oyebola no
Why not?
the gamer god 1337 did u even try installing windows 10 in a old computer? Its a nightmare
the gamer god 1337 you cant "download windows 10" on laptops that is older than windows 7 so u need to BOOT the device plus old laptops's CPU clock speed are too slow for windows 10
the gamer god 1337 you are saying that im retarded....without any actual evidence
I actually have an old Compaq Armada M300 laptop, docking station (with cd/floppy drive), etc.. and bought that exact same SD to IDE Adapter for it before finding your video. I wanted to install Windows 2000 on it and ran into the formatting bug you mention. However, I was only able to get my 32gb SD Card to format as an 8063mb drive. Fine really, but was wondering how you pre-staged the format on your SD Card. I tried a Windows 98 Bootdisk, used Fdisk, created 32gb (29,xxx mb) partition, formatted as FAT32, and when I went to install Windows 2000 it saw the partition as corrupt or invalid. Only after I booted off an XP cd and went through the initial setup steps, just prior to copying any files, it let me format the drive, but only as an 8063mb partition. I then cancelled setup (by powering the machine off as it was about to copy files), swapped back to the Windows 2000 CD and tried again. This time it considered the FAT32 partition as valid and let me install onto it. Only problem, it's 8gb in size instead of 32. Again, not really an issue, just messing around, but was curious how you got the full 32gb to work on yours if you remember, @Druaga1
But can it run Crysis 3?
Craig White max 0 fps
Ur on the wrong channel go to th-cam.com/users/linustechtips
Yes, at -2,492 frames per-second
Actual 30mb/s is pretty good. Why would you think it will be slower? Considering copying max 5mb/s on my own computer.
Nice GUI. I have always liked the win 95 look. Win 8 and 10 are very ugly. They are made by people who don't know what color means.
True. I hate the Windows 10 non transparent look...
+louis tournas I feel your pain my dear sibling.
Windows 8 ( maybe 10 as wel ) is too "squary" and opaque. plus the purple... and the whole app thing... good god.
Kbolter NORRIS
Ya, full screen applications. What the heck is that about? Why are the menus with white background? Have you seen Office 365. Why is every background white or pale grey? Why are the buttons flat?
louis tournas
I haven't used 365 ( libreoffice, Micro$hit keeps getting steamrolled by open source and/or free software lol ). But yes, the fucking squares may sound well but... ugh... not so much in practice, no, not good. they had to use squares... for everything. which makes everything look...flat... flatter than a fucking piece of paper good lord. They clearly didn't have beta testing. If they did... Win 8 wouldn't be such crap.
I have a question, does windows 8 tend to get, you know, "bloaty"? 'cause that's a problem with WIndows 7 apparently. you install it and it works wonders. after one month it get ultra bloaty and slugish for no reason ( I am thinking about those hundreds of Windows updates... ) .
Kbolter NORRIS
"I have a question, does windows 8 tend to get, you know, "bloaty"?"
==I don't know. I only use it at work.
I loved the installation!!!!!!
who is watching this while installing Windows 2K (Just Saying, I'm doing this on an SSD so I'm faster than u (850 EVO)
RealistikDash Windows 98 !!!!!! 😒😒😒😒😒
So you’re wasting write cycles on a very expensive drive installing unsupported OS...
me, waiting for the setup to inspect my hardwares.
That 30 MBps is a theoretical maximum. The number in the circle is the actual rated minimum speed: 10MBps (Class 10).
Usually the lower number is the write speed...
Linux Mint is better than Windows 8 :D
I used mint too, but now I use Linux Kali.
kali linux is safer :)
Windows 7 is actually base.
anything is better than windows 8 what do you expect lmao
I am in arch
@Ashfly
Changed to Fedora...found my new favorite OS...
ooo you put some of my favourite keygen music in here nice job
I run Linux in an old 4 GB SD card I had lying around (those we used in cameras remember) Xubuntu 16.04 in this case (rock solid version akin to Win7. I run all my Windows apps using Wine (windows emulator) and my whole "windows drive" only takes 50MB of space, which can be compressed down to 20MB for cloud backups. And I can load each app in its separate windows "drive" if I want to, very handy. I dare to say that I'm having better compatibility with old software than I had using Windows itself. They made everything in their hands to turn things into a complicated mess. Blessed be all the linux gurus out there. Life is so much easier now, you guys should try it. It's crazy because I don't even have Linux installed, it runs "live" from the SD card and copy all system files to small RAMdisks, this way the system is lightning fast and you increase the lifespan of your physical disks. It can see NTFS partitions too!! Did I forgot something? I think not, pretty heavy marketing over here huh... I'm just spreading the good stuff out there
Aye dats fr crazy hoe now show me one person who asked
thanks for the video dude! i am going to try this for my old school window 98SE PC
You have a great sense of humor man :) I like everything in this video.
I will try to install Win XP following your steps. Thanks bro
TH-cam on a Pentium M.. how the times changed! Even my QC i7 equipped ThinkPad struggles with YT sometimes.
Thank you for this very useful information, even tho i only found out about it 8 years later. 😅😅
I would love to see you try Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS on that laptop. I bet you won't need to look for drivers either. It should work out of the box.
+Alexander Tornow exactly. putting windows on an SD card is like putting a bus on a motorcycle trailer
windows 2000 was amazing to run instead of running head against wall with all sorts of bugs and quirk with windows xp vanilla and SP1. Then changed when SP2 had matured XP
I second that
I write this comment from a Windows 2000 PC with Firefox 52.9.0 ESR (modded OS) - nice video, thanks for sharing your experience with that SD card :)
I have Windows 2000 on my retro PC, and I’d like to know how you got Firefox 52.9 ESR running on w2k
Is your SD hard drive still working? How often do you use your PC? I'd like to get a sense on reliability of SD card as hard drive. Thanks.
That's not too bad at all, considering back in the days we were using ATA33,ATA66, or ATA100/133. Even if the bus ranges from 33-133MB/s you would be lucky if you can pull average 4-8MB/s off of a legacy IDE drive, which Windows 2000 used to run on. This SD card capable of 30MB/s is already a lot faster. Conversely, the bottleneck of older machines such as the Pentium II or Pentium III even P4 was the hard drive. I recently installed an SSD into one of those machines and the performance was above what I expected.
Windows 2000 is a great OS for old laptops.
Not bad.
I installed Windows XP on a slim PC from a couple of years ago, running a dual core atom and some low spec radeon (or is it nvidia) "card". I use it for older games which just don't run on modern systems. I never installed 2000 so I was a bit surprised to hear you say it is lighter than XP. OK, not TOO surprised. 30mb/s is not bad, I remember having hard drives slower than that (for example an internal WD for my Amiga 1200).
This is actually a really good idea
dit melodietje komt mij bekent voor.
Win 2k was cool, have you tried installing WinNT 4.0 on any laptop....fun-times.....
I'm actually planning on installing Windows 95 on a 8GB SD Card myself...we'll see how well that pans out.
Stupid IBM SurePOST BIOS getting picky with CompactFlash "hard drives" for some reason.
What brand is that adapter? Hexin?
I have a similar one, but only SATA. I am trying to build a case for it, since I don't want to risk anything in terms of short circutry inside my PC.
Did you made a speed test yet, made with h2testw_1.4 ?
The adapter seems to be a brandless thing out of China. (see the link in description) It took weeks to arrive in the mail. I have yet to do any speed/benchmark tests with this particular card/adapter.
amazing!!! You give me ideas! Thank you. Try it with an old desktop of 90s
Druaga1, I'm trying something even slower tomorrow, installing Windows 98 on a 2 gb class 4 sd card on a device with a 728 mb CPU and 88 mb of ram emulated in DOSbox.
If you are wondering what the device is, it's a Nintendo wii softmodded with homebrew channel
Does the adapter you are using need power to operate? I looked at this same adapter in your video on Ebay for more detailed photos and cannot find any power connectors on them. So it just plugs into the IDE cable and that's it?
Years ago I bought one of those IDE to Compact Flash adapters ironically to replace a failed hard drive in a Gateway also running Windows 2000. This adapter uses a 4 pin power cable that would normally power a second 3.5" floppy drive. From the best of my memory, the computer didn't recognize the 16GB Compact Flash card in the BIOS. However a closer shows a jumper pin (5 volts versus 3.3 volts). So how do you know which voltage setting to use? I still have the computer, the adapter and compact flash card. I thought I'd give it another shot one day.
James S Laptops use a different form of IDE that has power on the pins.
I ended up trying that IDE adapter/32 MB compact flash drive in a newer computer and installed XP on it and it works but it hangs up at times. Since then I recycled a 1 TB SATA hard drive from an old Dell Laptop that literally fell apart and it works great. Does using an SD card work any better than a compact flash card as far as hanging up? Does it work any better running Windows 2000 versus XP? I'm thinking there are less programs running the background with Windows 2000 than XP and that may explain why it may work better.
Just added a CF drive ( Lexar 1066 mb's ) to old asrock K8NF3-VSTA motherboard self build and my experience has been that the read times are great but the write times in certain situations takes about twice as long, I believe this is because of a lack of hard drive buffer or too little buffer. Normally a sata drive has as least 64 Gb of buffer, these cards probably have little to none because the hard drive buffer is located on the camera's motherboard, also I shortened my boot time by 17 seconds after installing the chipset drivers, now it only takes 45 sec to get to the desktop after a reboot.
this sd card goes about as fast as a udma/33 drive anyway, which was about how fast drives went when windows 2000 came out, newer 66mb/s drives were available, but 33 was still pretty common
That was the max speed they could theoretically reach. My Quantum Fireball lct barely reached 15MB/s IIRC
That’s why I watched you for 2 years.
SD cards have good search time. If youre workin with a file database of somethin this is perfect :)
You have to isolate the PCB of the IDE to SD adapter if it is almost on a metal surface. Otherwise you will have a short circuit. That is also probably why it stopped detecting the IDE to SD adapter.
HVI he did that after recording actually
wait a minute... doesn't this mean that you now have a mobile copy of Windows 2000? (at least for as far as mobile goes for sd cards)
if anything, they should also develop an interface that allows one SD card to be recognized as a Floppy disk drive, hard disk drive, and CD-ROM drive all from one card reader for old computers. I mean, we might have these following files on one SD card in the future:
a .img file (floppy disk)
a .vhd file (hard disk)
a .iso file (CD-ROM)
in theory one SD card could serve as a multi-device emulator for the hardware level.
now i am MIND BLOWN
Would windows 98 work on an sd card I wonder if you have slightly older laptop?
Wow can’t believe it works!
think I'm gonna try this on an old 2005 Satellite I have hanging around. Last I checked much of the drivers do work with windows 2000 (even though its made for XP). The Hard Drive is starting to crap out anyway so I'll be an interesting little project.
Great idea, but how do you do this to a Dell latitude D505 where the HDD slides in a slot on the side and the connector pins are 3 inches inside?
Haha, four years later. How is it holding up?
Hello "everyone"?! WHERE MY SMOKERS
Try it on a SanDisk Extreme UHS-1 90mb/s and it will not at all be so slow. Yes, read times are always much faster than write times. Also I have a second system always working from an sd card and when I first installed the o.s. every time i would boot it would stop recognizing the card (or adapter) turns out it was a setting on the bios, I don't remember which setting.
It can't be any slower than the HP 2133 did.
Legitimately, from a USB stick, Windows XP would have taken SIX HOURS to copy files to the hard drive for installing. Thank god I had a PXE option on the side.
The best Windows in history!!!!!
that was really neat and i learned alot
What's the name of the program you used to get the drivers
im super confused? i have a dell inspirion 1501 laptop running windows xp media center edition 2005 and whenever i try to install a os like windows 2000 off of a usb flash drive a min after the windows 2000 setup screen it gives me the Blue screen of death and it says INACESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE Please help! it does this with the older Operating systems!
Kewl, can you install Windows vista on that?
Boy you could easily install Windows 8.1 (x86) on that card and still install a tiny lot of updated software for productivity and light gaming ( my current 8.1 setup takes only 18.7GB with updates and all).
If you chose to upgrade the card to a microSD class 4 (using the SD adapter) or higher it would even be way faster, I did that on a HP mini 1020la through the built-in card reader leaving the entire 160GB HDD for storage.
The wonder of that is I don´t need to dual boot or anything (that sometimes is not as simple) I can boot XP or 8.1 simply by swapping cards. The only little trick to get XP rolling was to use RUFUS 1.4 to prepare the files to be installed on USB media as the reader is detected as USB despite being built-in.
For the driver issues on any Windows version from 2000 and higher you can use a freeware tool called slimdrivers by slimware utilities, it automatically searches for the drivers online after scanning your machine and let´s you choose which to install......