This is a great tip! Here are some other methods I do for similar results! In Izotope RX there is a leveler tool. You give it a target RMS value and it adds clip gain points inside RX to keep the volume at the target. It's an "auto rider" kind of deal. This is what I do most of the time when mixing for clients! Especially because you can apply it in bulk with the bulk feature in RX. This way I clip gain / gain ride all the vocal tracks before even opening up the DAW! Plus the leveler in RX rides the vocals and ducks down the esses... so it's a deesser too! The other method is the most typical. .... waves vocal rider! It's IMO a bit more musical than RX's leveler. Sometimes I even RX leveler into a vocal rider to get it super smooth. Vocal rider is also very useful since you can automate the target, unlike RX. So you can make it have macro dynamics but control the peaks / micro dynamics. When I'm recording then I do compression on vocals on the way in! I've come to love comp on the way in for vocals, you may be afraid to mess them up.... but if you know what you're doing you can get the majority of the finished sound straight from the recording. Personally I even ride the gain into the compressor while recording. After the scratch vocal is done I pretty much know what parts the singer will scream and what parts are whispered, so riding the gain knob becomes easier. You can use software 0 latency compressors and funky routing to do comp on the way in all in the box. Have a track for recording. Put a 0 latency comp on this track. Then make a new track. Feed the audio from the record + comp track into the second track and record that. On this track you'll get the vocals with the comp on the way in! You can also just buy a comp guitar pedal and a small mixer. Mic into mixer, mixer's output into the pedal, pedal to interface. With a small mixer or a console you can route your vocals so they go into a fader, then into 2 comps in series (one to average out the sound, the other to limit peaks) then that into the interface. And use the fader to ride into the comps. You can wiggle the fader in held notes to add expression, duck the esses to do manual deessing and add emphasis to lyrics you like. All in real time! If you do that whole ride in real time into compression, add reverb and delays and you feed that signal into the singers headphones they will feel like a million dollars. Since they hear themselves so good they will get more inspired and deliver a great performance! This results in satisfied clients and easy mixing because the vocals are already compressed and (mostly) de essed on the way in!
If you have a higher tier version of Melodyne you can clip gain word by word. I use that option all of the time. It takes more time but the results are amazing. Way better then using automation to level out vocals before a comp.
@@StuffnSuch As far as I saw on the video you can only clip gain the audio as a whole vs chopping up, clip gaining an specific word, then unite the piece of audio again. I could be wrong of not being able to do it in the version of Melodyne displayed on the video. It is still good information though.
I...what? You're killing me here. The leveling tools are part of the main advertised feature set and that macro is one of the big three you see right in the Edit menu. Pretty please promise me you'll at least skim the table of contents in the Reference Guide. I promise it'll be worthwhile.
I'm so embarrassed that I've been using Melodyne 5 for years and never clicked on that button to see what it does. How ashamed would I be if this button was already in Melodyne 4?
@@newguy6935 I find Nectar auto levelling can cause more problems that it cures. I've spent ages trying to find out why some vocals sound weird until I finally switch off Nectar auto levelling. Don't trust it now. Manually adjust levels or will use Melodyne as described if I find it is transparent and not over processed.
ok, this is an instant subcribe for me. This channel has serious GEMZ 💎
Thank you! 🙏
Been using melodyne for years and did not know this. Legend. Thanks man.
Well this is unreal. I love how you can spend so long using a plugin only to miss something that's right there. Thanks bro you've saved me hours haha.
That’s so true, I feel that. You got it!
I have had Melodyne from the start and just now I find this out? Thanks for the share.
Exactly how I felt, haha. Glad it helped! :)
Wowie,Wow,Wow!!! I am embarrassed about just how many hours I have spent Gain-Staging!! ThankYou sooooo much!!!
Me too haha!! Glad it helped :)
I was rewarded by the algorithm today! Thanks fam!
Happy to help! :)
This is a great tip! Here are some other methods I do for similar results!
In Izotope RX there is a leveler tool. You give it a target RMS value and it adds clip gain points inside RX to keep the volume at the target. It's an "auto rider" kind of deal.
This is what I do most of the time when mixing for clients! Especially because you can apply it in bulk with the bulk feature in RX. This way I clip gain / gain ride all the vocal tracks before even opening up the DAW! Plus the leveler in RX rides the vocals and ducks down the esses... so it's a deesser too!
The other method is the most typical. .... waves vocal rider! It's IMO a bit more musical than RX's leveler. Sometimes I even RX leveler into a vocal rider to get it super smooth. Vocal rider is also very useful since you can automate the target, unlike RX. So you can make it have macro dynamics but control the peaks / micro dynamics.
When I'm recording then I do compression on vocals on the way in! I've come to love comp on the way in for vocals, you may be afraid to mess them up.... but if you know what you're doing you can get the majority of the finished sound straight from the recording.
Personally I even ride the gain into the compressor while recording. After the scratch vocal is done I pretty much know what parts the singer will scream and what parts are whispered, so riding the gain knob becomes easier.
You can use software 0 latency compressors and funky routing to do comp on the way in all in the box. Have a track for recording. Put a 0 latency comp on this track. Then make a new track. Feed the audio from the record + comp track into the second track and record that. On this track you'll get the vocals with the comp on the way in!
You can also just buy a comp guitar pedal and a small mixer. Mic into mixer, mixer's output into the pedal, pedal to interface.
With a small mixer or a console you can route your vocals so they go into a fader, then into 2 comps in series (one to average out the sound, the other to limit peaks) then that into the interface. And use the fader to ride into the comps. You can wiggle the fader in held notes to add expression, duck the esses to do manual deessing and add emphasis to lyrics you like. All in real time!
If you do that whole ride in real time into compression, add reverb and delays and you feed that signal into the singers headphones they will feel like a million dollars. Since they hear themselves so good they will get more inspired and deliver a great performance! This results in satisfied clients and easy mixing because the vocals are already compressed and (mostly) de essed on the way in!
Wow, THANK U!! And the freeze trick, I think I’m in love bro ❤😂
Haha thanks, glad you liked it!!
Game changer 🎉🎉🎉thanks for sharing the tip.
Thanks! Happy to help!
Another good one! Thanks for sharing 🙏
Happy to help, thank you!
If u didn't know God sent u right at the beginning of my mix for my 1st song to come out..Bless u bro 👩🏽💻💃🏽
That's awesome! Congrats on your first song! Glad the video helped :)
@@audioedges Thnku!! Much appreciated!
If you have a higher tier version of Melodyne you can clip gain word by word. I use that option all of the time. It takes more time but the results are amazing. Way better then using automation to level out vocals before a comp.
Could you elaborate further? How would that be more advantageous than the video? Not doubting you, genuinely curious to know.
@@StuffnSuch As far as I saw on the video you can only clip gain the audio as a whole vs chopping up, clip gaining an specific word, then unite the piece of audio again. I could be wrong of not being able to do it in the version of Melodyne displayed on the video. It is still good information though.
@@LilAngL Ah I understand now. Thanks! 👍
what a beautiful technique!
Glad you like it! :)
Never knew this one, thanks for showing!
Happy to help!
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thank you sir, very helpful!!!
Happy to help!!
This is great!!! Thanks for posting.
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Thanks so much.
Glad you like it!
Thanks fam!
You got it! :)
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Right?! Such a hack!
Woah!
Huge 💣
Gamechanger!!!!
Cool right??
thats insane
Crazy right?!
I...what? You're killing me here. The leveling tools are part of the main advertised feature set and that macro is one of the big three you see right in the Edit menu.
Pretty please promise me you'll at least skim the table of contents in the Reference Guide. I promise it'll be worthwhile.
thank u so much.
Happy to help :)
Subscibed. I can't believe I didn't know this! You just saved me so much time! Thank You🫵
Thank you! Great to have you here. Glad you like it! :)
I'm so embarrassed that I've been using Melodyne 5 for years and never clicked on that button to see what it does. How ashamed would I be if this button was already in Melodyne 4?
I feel that, haha.
@@audioedges hahaha
Duuuuuuude. Dude.
Izotope Nectar is quicker and better on auto leveling.
no
@@newguy6935 I find Nectar auto levelling can cause more problems that it cures. I've spent ages trying to find out why some vocals sound weird until I finally switch off Nectar auto levelling. Don't trust it now. Manually adjust levels or will use Melodyne as described if I find it is transparent and not over processed.