“ah, good shot chamber! bravo!” “ah of course, im you after all” “so other me, how is things with viper” “all fine, wonderful! we go very well together” (lying) “same here, my double!” (lying)
He's that archetype of a reckless hero that acts before he thinks. And being able to revive doesn't help. A hero nonetheless, though, so he's not really happy that Omega doubles are threatening their world.
i feel like both omens want to at least have the other's suffering but they don't hate each other, they just want each other's memories, praying that they have the other half
Yeah bro I think omen doesn't really hate his clone, like in one of his voicelines he says 'There is another me? How many times did I die? How many times did I getripped apart?'
@@Hope-lt3de Soviet doesn't mean anything my brother, It's only memorable use is "Soviet union." Besides that you can't name something that has the word soviet.
Completely unrelated: I feel like Fade's nightmare powers are a bit connected to being able to stay awake. It might sound weird because most radiants doesn't have this type of drawback but she did say that she made a deal with Nightmare on that one voice line. But the more you look at her voice lines like "Anything to keep me awake" or "Okay, time for coffee. My treat." and her Resurrect voice line suggests that she doesn't like the idea of falling asleep. idk just a weird thought.
(6:40) I am surprised Skye does not have more hatred for her double. Considering the environmental damage done by Omega Earth, Skye should be furious with her double.
I believe that omen shouldn’t be placed as having the most hatred, I think he says what he does because he wants to end both his and his doubles suffering (showing a bit of sympathy)
I think Omen is most likely forcing himself to kill his double, not to only take the double's memories but also to end his suffering, "You can finally let go."
i feel like omen would be in the tolerate section because he feels sad and bad for omen, like this one voice line where he says something along the lines of "another me? how many times did i get ripped apart? how many times did i die?" and i think he wants to kill him for two reasons, 1st of which he stated in the video is that he wants to remember his past and end his suffering, the 2nd which i believe was briefly mentioned is that he wants to end his double's suffering which is proven in his voiceline when he kills them where he says "now rest" because he's the only one who understands what he's going through. but thats just what i think. PS: im only writing this because i really like omen, he's my main.
As an Omen main myself, I can't agree less with you, especially the voice line in which he goes, "you can finally let go", which to me feels like he's a bit envious that his double finally gets to let go of all the pain and suffering.
As a professional omen main, my analysis is saying that Omen is actually sympathetic to his double. He knows what he is going through, sheer pain just like him. And also Omen might be hoping his double has the other half of his memories and wants to end his double, take his memories and end his suffering aswell. So omen should be in Tolerate.
Chamber and his double aren’t exactly friends and don’t trust each other fully cuz in the trailer the other chamber aims at the main chambers head before shooting what he needs to shoot
I think it’s moreso if it wasnt for plot, they wouldnt have issues with eachother but because they are on opposing sides, they can’t trust eachother. Military things
i think trailer is kinda another thing, that aim was just for mysterious character intro. creators needed to show somehow that omega chamber is working with his alpha. he isnt ready to kill his double, he needs him for their future plans, missions and stuff. but yeah, hearing the voicelines, you can clearly say they dont 100% trust each other
I think you missed the Omen voice line "There is another of me ? How many times did i get ripped appart." I think thats what he says, so its more of a shame he feels for being more than one Omen.
fade's "leave the dream-seer to me line" is her telling her team to let her "take care" of fade, not that the enemy fade should leave the dream/nightmare manipulation to her.
i wonder what the lore for replication is. would be fun if they make lines for replication and seeing 5 reyna in the same team be like "i hate you all..." "i hate you too you poor miserable kreturas"
There are the ones looking at their double as someone completely different, the ones that see them as clones/other people, and chamber who only sees himself in a mirror
Is that the old Reaver knife in the Omen-Artwork at the end? I'm just noticing this now, but this is a big one I think. Jeppy, you speculated about Omen having a connection to this strange cult-thing in the Reaver player cards before, and I think that theory just got a lot more close to 'confirmed', since we NEVER in any official art or clip, see an agent using a weapon with a skin on it. Except for this artwork of Omen, where he holds a knife that looks very similar to the Reaver dagger. And this artwork is the very one that appears in Valorants 'agent' tab in the main menu, as well as on the 'Valorant Omen Card'.
Keep in mind omen is in constant pain all the time. His existence is like the shadow. Which is everywhere around everyone. He needs focus otherwise he can drift to anywhere unconsciously. He doesn't hate his double but he just wants to remember his past. Its the last thing that is Keeping the poor souls sanity in check. A glimmer of hope
Jett canonically holds a very big amount of hatred towards omega Jett as omega Jett was mixed up for her and she was known as a criminal for a while and is still hated by the public due to the other Jett and we can see her hatred in some voicelines
"-Yeah you know that plot hole in most hero based games, the one when same characters have to fight they clone essentially for some unknown reason? -yeah? We fixed it! They now are actually from alternative universe and have to fight for the resources. - Great! - but some of them are actually friends with they doubles and help each other. .... - why they fight each other then? ... -Oh shit... ... YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!
I think Alpha Jett hates her double the most because Omega Jett literally ruined her life. It clearly affected her, and when Fade brought it up in the dossier, she talked to brimstone and seemed to not want Fade on the team because of it. She is usually an easy-going person, and this showed just how much the dossier bothered her
Omen knows exactly what their bodies feel I forgot who's voiceline is it but she said that whenever omen tp it's like he died and reappear again. Omen's body is in constant pain and he keeps suffering so the best he could do for himself (his clone) is to end his (clone) suffering Just my speculation
Omen should definitely not be placed where he is. He shows signs of remorse and no actual hatred directed towards that Omen either, he must kill the other Omen for his memories so he can remember his past while also allowing the other Omen to move on to the after-life.
So... about Raze, I'm from Brazil, and I can say one thing, the way she says "amorzinho"(lover) it's not that friendly. In Brazil, just because we say something that in theory is apply to friends or close ones, that's not mean tha we have friendly intentions
Kayo's motivations are reasonable, his intelligence gave him self awareness and a need for self preservation as well as the preservation of his friends as he lost everything/ everyone he cared about during his final battle against his Rena in his universe could be wrong so take this with a fist of salt
I guess that Jett actually dislikes her mirror version... adding up the fact that the omega Jett made alpha Jett be know as a terrorist after the Venice incident.
I wouldn't say Omen hates his double, although he does want him dead. Omen thinks killing his double will be better for both of them because he hopes it'll give him his memories and the other won't have to suffer. I feel like he's too absorbed in his own suffering to hate his double and he just wants both of their pain to subside. He has a voice line at the start of the match that helps give this idea. "There is another of me? How many times was I ripped apart? How many times did I die?"
so omen i feel like wants to kill his double mainly because he himself has been scattered across multiple universes and the only way to make himself whole again is to kill his double
The reason omen wants to kill his double is because he wants his memories because MAYBE just maybe the other Omen Has the memories of his death because he wants to Remember WHO he was
Both Chamber are businessmen, so hes more likely to collaborate with his double, and he's also more likely to betray his double when interests dont meet.
I don't think anyone hates each other here. Most of them have respect for their doubles. They either don't want to face their doubles, or don't mind it, or think it's fun for the challenge, and then there's Reyna.
kinda mad jeppy didn't include the voiceline where chamber seems reluctant to kill his double("do we have to kill my double? ah, alright") but overall great video
The reason Sova doean't want to kill his double is because the double's babushka would be sad, and Sova doesn't want anyone's babushka to be sad.
my man sova don't want no babushka gettin sad
he know he’s in serious trouble when babushka becomes mad
If only actual russia was like sova
@@Nitin-vq4yr 🤣
What a wholesome man
I can just imagine,chamber and his double complementing themselves every single time they go on a mission together
Both Vipers sick of their flirting lol
“ah, good shot chamber! bravo!”
“ah of course, im you after all”
“so other me, how is things with viper”
“all fine, wonderful! we go very well together” (lying)
“same here, my double!” (lying)
@@eunyungsito I can hear the voicelines already
@@jakethereaper2060 same and I want this to be a thing
Very fruity
I love how phoenix is normally super energetic and all that but he has that one voiceline of "Easy mate, there can only be *one* hero"
yeah that one is something
"I'm coming for you"
"I'll crush her radiant heart"
He's that archetype of a reckless hero that acts before he thinks. And being able to revive doesn't help. A hero nonetheless, though, so he's not really happy that Omega doubles are threatening their world.
i feel like both omens want to at least have the other's suffering but they don't hate each other, they just want each other's memories, praying that they have the other half
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Definitly feel the same on that part
Yeah bro I think omen doesn't really hate his clone, like in one of his voicelines he says 'There is another me? How many times did I die? How many times did I getripped apart?'
jett isn't even mad at her clone for blowing up veince💀
I thought Jett would be on the hate list. I’m pretty sure she gets blamed for the incident and created some problems of alpha earth
as surprising as this sounds, maybe alpha jett hadnt realized it was actually omega jetts fault
@@Kettvnen wait but wouldn't she know since in the cinematic duality it showed phoenix and omega jett on the news wanted
She be like, well only I can pull that off if i wanted to, obviously I wont
@@flyingpotatoes8701now we have voice messages show she really hate what her in omega did
You forgot chambers voiceline:
"So ,we have to kill my double? So be it"
Out of context: "So, we have to kill my double? Soviet"
He also forgot Omen's meeting voiceline of "There is another me. How many times did I get ripped apart? How many times did I die?"
And Brims where he says that one brim is enough.
@@Hope-lt3deI don’t think you know what that means..
@@Hope-lt3de
Soviet doesn't mean anything my brother, It's only memorable use is "Soviet union." Besides that you can't name something that has the word soviet.
Completely unrelated:
I feel like Fade's nightmare powers are a bit connected to being able to stay awake. It might sound weird because most radiants doesn't have this type of drawback but she did say that she made a deal with Nightmare on that one voice line. But the more you look at her voice lines like "Anything to keep me awake" or "Okay, time for coffee. My treat." and her Resurrect voice line suggests that she doesn't like the idea of falling asleep. idk just a weird thought.
Either That, Or Fade is Not Immune to Nightmare Herself. So Anything She Can do To Other, She Herself Can Be Affected the Second She Falls Asleep.
she also says rest is overrated so she prob has nightmares every time she tries to sleep so she wants to stay awake
I think it’s more so her trying to avoid the nightmares about the person she lost that the “nightmare” gives her
@@eagleye2893 probably! since she says she paid a high price to commune with nightmare and not to waste it
Oneirophobia.... maybe all radiants had to overcome something or have an aspect of themselves amplified or something like that
(6:40) I am surprised Skye does not have more hatred for her double. Considering the environmental damage done by Omega Earth, Skye should be furious with her double.
Pretty sure a Skye woulnt be able to change the tides of climate change by herself
@@aurorapaisley7453she 100% doesn’t buy into the “carbon footprint” scam sold to us by oil companies.
I believe that omen shouldn’t be placed as having the most hatred, I think he says what he does because he wants to end both his and his doubles suffering (showing a bit of sympathy)
Also, he seems a little envious that his double got to let go of all the suffering and pain, and that just breaks my heart man.
He even feels sorry for his double because of the voiceline “there’s… another of me? How many times did I get ripped apart? How many times did I die?”
@@rkgaming9683that's the most painful voice line in all of valorant
4:51 Hahahaa the fact no one will ever hear these lines, one astra is a miracle, two in one game is impossible
Used to be super common
High ranks players hear this like every single game
Competitive players would object that statement
Especially if one astra has to kill the other astra
It's like a star colliding with another star that is light-years away
I'm one Astra main. Need another one so I can hear that voiceline though, and it's really impossible🥲
I think Omen is most likely forcing himself to kill his double, not to only take the double's memories but also to end his suffering, "You can finally let go."
Does Gekko not have any voice lines for his double?
Surprised Jett isn’t made at her double about her being framed for the Venice incident
You mean mad?
@@Krokodil_9 yeah that’s what I meant
i feel like omen would be in the tolerate section because he feels sad and bad for omen, like this one voice line where he says something along the lines of "another me? how many times did i get ripped apart? how many times did i die?" and i think he wants to kill him for two reasons, 1st of which he stated in the video is that he wants to remember his past and end his suffering, the 2nd which i believe was briefly mentioned is that he wants to end his double's suffering which is proven in his voiceline when he kills them where he says "now rest" because he's the only one who understands what he's going through. but thats just what i think.
PS: im only writing this because i really like omen, he's my main.
As an Omen main myself, I can't agree less with you, especially the voice line in which he goes, "you can finally let go", which to me feels like he's a bit envious that his double finally gets to let go of all the pain and suffering.
@@samartha7455 Omen is just a really tragic character
@@BigZlinker "They fear death, they should fear more than that".
How tragic you want this character's lore?
YES
As a fellow Omen main, repsect.
as another fellow Omen main I feel the same dude
As a professional omen main, my analysis is saying that Omen is actually sympathetic to his double. He knows what he is going through, sheer pain just like him. And also Omen might be hoping his double has the other half of his memories and wants to end his double, take his memories and end his suffering aswell.
So omen should be in Tolerate.
the “leave the dream seer to me” is referring to asking the team to let her handle her double. that being said, it’s probably not very malicious
was gonna write this if you didn't 👍
Chamber and his double aren’t exactly friends and don’t trust each other fully cuz in the trailer the other chamber aims at the main chambers head before shooting what he needs to shoot
I think it’s moreso if it wasnt for plot, they wouldnt have issues with eachother but because they are on opposing sides, they can’t trust eachother. Military things
i think trailer is kinda another thing, that aim was just for mysterious character intro. creators needed to show somehow that omega chamber is working with his alpha. he isnt ready to kill his double, he needs him for their future plans, missions and stuff. but yeah, hearing the voicelines, you can clearly say they dont 100% trust each other
I think you missed the Omen voice line "There is another of me ? How many times did i get ripped appart."
I think thats what he says, so its more of a shame he feels for being more than one Omen.
so you cant hate something you feel ashamed of? i dont quite get what you mean x)
I ment to say, that *i feel* that Omen feels shame, regret or pain that there is another Omen.
@@DasJiggly but there is no hate, he just need to find his memory back and will do everything to get it back
fade's "leave the dream-seer to me line" is her telling her team to let her "take care" of fade, not that the enemy fade should leave the dream/nightmare manipulation to her.
exactly what i thought.
omen wants the other omen dead because he doesnt want him to suffer like him
8:17 I think this voice line was created before most of the Valorant protocol agents knew they had an omega double in the lore
I think with Cypher, he's wary of what the enemy Cypher could do, since the other Cypher knows things that would compromise himself
Its almost like MAD, if he drops info, the other one does.
I think Astra is warning her double because they both can see in the future so they know who is going to win
i fell like if the omens worked together, they could probably find a way to cure themselves
Gotta love how Riot incorporated a lore to explain the mirror matches in matchmaking.
Chamber the type of fella to have himself as wallpaper.
Omen goes like: I know you feel pain, so I will end the suffering.
They don't hate the other one
12:24 Chamber in the corner just watching
i wonder what the lore for replication is. would be fun if they make lines for replication and seeing 5 reyna in the same team be like
"i hate you all..."
"i hate you too you poor miserable kreturas"
bruh i tought sova said "begin sova!"💀
raze liking her double just makes perfect sense
they would be causing mischief all the time
Chamber is extra gay for his omega counterpart and you can't change my mind XD
I’m just saying, if Riot makes a mlm relationship canon and Chamber happens to be part of it… I won’t be surprised. 😂
There are the ones looking at their double as someone completely different, the ones that see them as clones/other people, and chamber who only sees himself in a mirror
Is that the old Reaver knife in the Omen-Artwork at the end?
I'm just noticing this now, but this is a big one I think.
Jeppy, you speculated about Omen having a connection to this strange cult-thing in the Reaver player cards before, and I think that theory just got a lot more close to 'confirmed', since we NEVER in any official art or clip, see an agent using a weapon with a skin on it.
Except for this artwork of Omen, where he holds a knife that looks very similar to the Reaver dagger.
And this artwork is the very one that appears in Valorants 'agent' tab in the main menu, as well as on the 'Valorant Omen Card'.
not sure if you know of the newer agents like gekko and them, alongside the NEWEST agent of Vyse so you may need to update this video to include them
7:16 Well that's going to kept me awake tonight.
I don't think Yoru specifically dislikes his double, but rather is just competitive iin his combat-loving way
Keep in mind omen is in constant pain all the time. His existence is like the shadow. Which is everywhere around everyone. He needs focus otherwise he can drift to anywhere unconsciously. He doesn't hate his double but he just wants to remember his past. Its the last thing that is Keeping the poor souls sanity in check. A glimmer of hope
I can see Brim being more a
“Look I get why you are trying to steal our Radianite, but I still can’t let you”
6:22 you forgot about the “KILL MY COPY” barrier down voice line
U missed this omen voice line:
There’s another me, how many times did I get tear apart?how many times did I die?
i feel like chamber is just complementing himself to be honest
8:11 i feel that jett's dislike for her double stems from lore wise of what she had to go thru when her face was revealed..thats my speculation tho
If the two Neons met they'd probably have a potluck and share gossip about the other agents.
4:26 I always imagined that Brim was referencing Breach in that voiceline
i think in omens case it is really more pitty and a sense of self preservation
Jett canonically holds a very big amount of hatred towards omega Jett as omega Jett was mixed up for her and she was known as a criminal for a while and is still hated by the public due to the other Jett and we can see her hatred in some voicelines
"-Yeah you know that plot hole in most hero based games, the one when same characters have to fight they clone essentially for some unknown reason?
-yeah?
We fixed it! They now are actually from alternative universe and have to fight for the resources.
- Great!
- but some of them are actually friends with they doubles and help each other.
....
- why they fight each other then?
...
-Oh shit...
...
YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!
The neon hopping away is hilarious 😂
You also forgot the "Sleep, brother" line from sova
wait, there's more to kay/o's one, he calls his double "toaster" when he kills him
"Even I can't beat me🗣️🔥"
-Yoru
Viper: "Im coming for you Sabine"
gucl you
I think Alpha Jett hates her double the most because Omega Jett literally ruined her life. It clearly affected her, and when Fade brought it up in the dossier, she talked to brimstone and seemed to not want Fade on the team because of it. She is usually an easy-going person, and this showed just how much the dossier bothered her
i feel like kj would have fun with her double, creating inventions and working together
When sova kill his double he'll say "rest now brother"
"Reyes" "Fate" "Cipher" im dead
3/4 of the agents in the friends category are my mains! idk how thats relevant, just smth i noticed
I was just shocked when I was playing omen and I heard how much times did I die how much times did I get ripped apart like bro chill
Omen knows exactly what their bodies feel
I forgot who's voiceline is it but she said that whenever omen tp it's like he died and reappear again.
Omen's body is in constant pain and he keeps suffering so the best he could do for himself (his clone) is to end his (clone) suffering
Just my speculation
Thank you sir Jeppy, I really like your lore videos
Can we have a part two but with the new agents?
Omen should definitely not be placed where he is.
He shows signs of remorse and no actual hatred directed towards that Omen either, he must kill the other Omen for his memories so he can remember his past while also allowing the other Omen to move on to the after-life.
14:20 its not that omen wants his double dead its more that he thinks he has the information he needs and he's aggravated that he would fight.
So... about Raze, I'm from Brazil, and I can say one thing, the way she says "amorzinho"(lover) it's not that friendly.
In Brazil, just because we say something that in theory is apply to friends or close ones, that's not mean tha we have friendly intentions
What happens to omens line " is that another me? How many times was i ripped apart?"
I have never been happier maining Omen after this.
The alpha jett doesnt like the omgea jett cuz of the ascent thing but without that i think they would like each other
It would be so cool to have an agent introduced from the omega team first and alpha earth having to find them with low self confidence at first.
Kayo's motivations are reasonable, his intelligence gave him self awareness and a need for self preservation as well as the preservation of his friends as he lost everything/ everyone he cared about during his final battle against his Rena in his universe
could be wrong so take this with a fist of salt
hey jeppy just came here after your stream already loving it keep it up!
I guess that Jett actually dislikes her mirror version... adding up the fact that the omega Jett made alpha Jett be know as a terrorist after the Venice incident.
I wouldn't say Omen hates his double, although he does want him dead. Omen thinks killing his double will be better for both of them because he hopes it'll give him his memories and the other won't have to suffer. I feel like he's too absorbed in his own suffering to hate his double and he just wants both of their pain to subside. He has a voice line at the start of the match that helps give this idea. "There is another of me? How many times was I ripped apart? How many times did I die?"
so omen i feel like wants to kill his double mainly because he himself has been scattered across multiple universes and the only way to make himself whole again is to kill his double
viper also has another line that says "I'm coming for you, Sabine !" which definitely puts her in the dislike category .
chamber (real): you’re looking great today
chamber (copy): you are too, my friend
actually jett is mocking other jett (I think )
"Kicking his own a** and enjoying it when he does so."
About the Omen one it's not only him who hates his duplicate but also players who play him. It's a silent battle of who gets more kills of each other
Yoru's line of kicking his own ass makes this funnier xD
The reason omen wants to kill his double is because he wants his memories because MAYBE just maybe the other Omen Has the memories of his death because he wants to Remember WHO he was
Well Phoenix also would think of his double as a challenge since he often believes he's the best
omens voicelines are sad, "theres another one? how many times did i get ripped apart? how many times did i die?!"
Omen care for the other Omen. He wants to kill him to end the suffering.
Both Chamber are businessmen, so hes more likely to collaborate with his double, and he's also more likely to betray his double when interests dont meet.
Breach : Another Breach? I welcome a challenge
You forgot the 'I'm coming for you sabine' voiceline from viper
i would also say Astra si somewhat scared of her omega clone too, as seen in the lotus trailer
Omen doesnt hate his counterpart. In fact, he thinks he does them mercy by killing them as he says "rest now"
I HAVE to see an updated version…
Can we get a video on what the differences between the doubles in Valorant?
Omg that’s such a good idea, I would love to see that too
@@rice_wife I’m glad someone agrees!
@@mrmrkeeper Yess but the qn is, did riot spare us enough lore crumbs to make a video like that 😭
5:54 Killjoy diff is all she wanted w
As a Kayo main I’d like to clarify that I want them to have an impact so that they can be a part of me. Totally.
omen is such a sad character, so emotional
viper needs to be later, she outright threatens her other self in multiple vos
Sage at the start of a match : KILL MY COPY. Yeah sure she tolerates her haha
I don't think anyone hates each other here. Most of them have respect for their doubles. They either don't want to face their doubles, or don't mind it, or think it's fun for the challenge, and then there's Reyna.
You forgot a voice line of phoenix with is double
“You’re nothing, cuz”
Gekko chilliest
what sova really means in his russian line is "fly owl" referring to his drone, as sova is owl in russian
kinda mad jeppy didn't include the voiceline where chamber seems reluctant to kill his double("do we have to kill my double? ah, alright") but overall great video