I've been using a samsung led tv for my couch computer set up for the last few years. NU8000, the 55 inch or bigger versions will run in 1440p 120hz which is all I could ever ask for and I've experienced zero burn in unlike my old plasma. Text is readable, no weird scaling issues, very pleased
ive been rocking a samsung mu7000 55 inch for 2 years as my monitor and it has done a remarkable job, going to upgrade to the new LG oled it Sony oled soon, I have a primary monitor for normal use and just extend to the TV for movies and gaming.
was looking all over for this video so much bad fractling put 2 different gpus in my pc till I found this my Oled makes it like the gpu is dead when its not but after tweaking settings now emulate all my old games XD
Damn, for years I had "Default color settings" instead of "NVIDIA color settings" ... Thank you!! What is Dynamic Super Resolution 1080p, 3840 x 2160, HD (4.00x) ? I have gtx 1060 on 1080p monitor
I bought a 55" 4k tried to use it as monitor, but that really doesn't work. Colors and resolution are not good enough. IMO Maximum for a 4k resolution is 42" , above that it should be 5k. I do have 2x 42" monitors on my work desk.
I'm glad you didn't say show them this video.. they'll most probably start developing serious vision issues unless they are taking a lot of time for eye care on their off time
I used crt my entire life then I jumped to lg oled tvs in like 2014 now I use a sony ag9 soon a90j and I adore the experience but I didn't know the text artifacting was common I just assumed it's a res issue
yeah, i thought for the longest time too till i got a 4k LG hand down in 2016, and used as a monitor. Turns out it was a HDMI bandwidth issue. If i wanted accurate colors, i just had to bring it back to 30fps. Then I also discovered my pioneer plasma tv had a PC mode. All the modern cast devices look better now.
A90j is a waste of money. Purchase the 77 inch a80j for the best bargain. The a90j actually provides too much peak brightness in some instances; causing detail to be lost in HDR content.
Get ready to enjoy that sweet, sweet BURN IN BABY!! Love OLED for movies but for PC use it's a REALLY bad idea (as I have the 55" version and it's burned to pieces)
@Yontek Nohara Yeah, that'll work for a while then it'll burn baby burn. I too LOVE OLED for black levels and for movie viewing I will never go back but after destroying an OLED already (and doing everything possible for that not to happen) I'll NEVER waste one with a PC again. It. Will. Burn. Just a matter of time, that's all.
I use a CRT with a resolution of 1200x1600 and 50Hz in more cinematic games and 1024x786 at 85Hz in more speedy games. Works just fine, you just got to make sure that the gpu is outputting the video signal at the right vga frequency. It has basically no input lag and I got it for free, so I'm pretty pleased with it.
I'm running an old flat screen from 2009. It was the first thing I plugged my PC into it was my first flat screen and I still use it to this day, just not as my main display. Its not even 1080p.
ive a 1080 tv from around then too, I still use it cause ive an 2006 MacBook Pro thats screen doesn't work but the dvi output still works and it cant handle newer panels, ive loads of music, roms and it runs xp for old games too
Number one thing to remember when plugging a pc into most tvs is to use the hdmi port marked (arc). Yes I am aware that it should only effect sound. However this port seems to have more bandwidth and if you are having trouble getting hdr to work in windows try the (arc) hdmi port.
2:36 In regards to using a traditional pc + monitor setup, be sure to set the Output Dynamic Range option from Limited to Full in that same menu (you'll have to do this for each monitor by clicking the icons at the top of this page). A lot of monitors seem to default to Limited which results in washed out colors, but setting it to Full fixes this issue (also keep in mind you'll have to do this every time you update your drivers if you do a clean install)
@@dasa2344 yeah I did that, but as others have said they always say links in the description and don't put them. If they're not going to put them just stop saying it.
I didn't have subs turned on for 2 years when I bought my 5.2 Yamaha sound system, didn't know they had their own power buttons. Didn't know for 7 years in sonic 3 in the casino map you only had to push up or down to make the red spinny thing go up and down, I legit spent years trying to jump up and down to make it go low enough and didn't find out until it was emulated on PC and seen sonic snowboarding for the first-time blew my mind. It's similar I guess to me going into new workplaces and finding people not having drivers installed on their laptops so external displays don't work properly or sound doesn't go through or yeah screen mode isn't set to full it's set to like 16:9 or auto when their screens don't run at 16:9, had a few old projectors freeze up trying to display higher resolutions than it can support and people didn't know they could just extend instead of duplicate for perfect picture quality and allows them to do work while showing a video to the class etc. People and some tech is just frustrating lol
I love using my TV as a second monitor it's great to have a clock or picture slideshow or spotify on while working or gaming on my monitor. For more comfortable gaming/movie watching I keep a wireless keyboard with a trackpad and a wireless controller on the coffee table
Very good video. I've been using 2 TVs as monitors for a long time, ~15 years. 42" 1080p seems my ideal with old eyes for both work & play. I don't play multiplayer, TVs work great for single player action like latest Far Cry etc-can't beat those panoramic vistas, or larger heads to aim at :)
I connect my pc to my tv in my living room because I find couch gaming so much more enjoyable than sitting at a desk. And then I use a corsair lapdog to play games but that's a pain in the ass sometimes
Been using my pc on a TV for a decade now, never had any problems. Love how there's seemingly more real estate on the desktop, so much room for activities!
@@TheBritishPatriot I feel you are more into Single Player Games which can be more viable with TV screens but Multiplayer Games especially Competitive ones is just stupid to play on a TV Screen but at the end of the day, you do you.
@@rikumajumder1558 It's not like it used to be, a lot of TV's today have input lag imperceptible from gaming monitors of the same refresh rate(I've measured and compared myself with a high speed camera). Unless you need more than 120hz then the newer LG OLED's(C8 and newer) for example work excellent for FPS games, they also have near instantaneous response times, crazy good colors, blacks and HDR which you simply can't get out of a backlit panel
I have three Displays hooked up to my PC, 1 24" inch monitor, a 15" monitor, and a 43" TV. I game on the TV when I want to sit on the couch. However, I've been doing a bit of VR (Rift S) so my Displays are kinda useless right now.
I love VGA CRTs. I have a few, so far the AOC I have is my favorite, but it was in a fire and idk if it works now :( GBS Control or an OSSC allows for consoles on VGA CRTs, check them out! (The GBS is a DIY much cheaper scaler, to help with horizontal sync and resolution, the latter quite popular)
My colors "were"screwed and I couldn't figure out how to make it look right... Until I found that the reason I couldn't figure it out was the fact that I had to use Nvidia control panel to override the color to reference mode rather than enhanced. After doing so my tv matched my monitor perfectly. I hope this helps someone. So after a year I can safely say reference mode is best for all displays as it just shows it as it was intended. Is also seems to make even the most contradicting displays match 1:1 so big win with this one One more thing is if your using a TV as a display and it's 720p set it to 768p and for 1080p set it to 1824×1026 it looks weird in text but will fit perfectly and look just as good as tv aspect ratio is slightly off from a monitor even being 16×9
Usually those had a little input lag anyways because of the HDMI to RGB circuitry needed. Still nice as long as its not the horrible widescreen ones which were super smudgy in the edges.
When it comes to the image edge being outside of the screen, you can often fix this by changing the input type to "PC", "Computer" or "Game". Every TV is different, but usually you will go to either the source option or the input settings. Find the input channel you are trying to use such as "HDMI 1" and there is probably an option to change the input type. It's the first thing I look for as it seems to address multiple issues relating to the colour and sharpness, but the most noticeable fix is that the image matches the screen size without having to resize anything manually or change the aspect ratio.
I haven't used a computer monitor as my main screen for at least 15 years now. My very first big screen TV was some Panasonic rear projection type LCD and from that day on a big screen was the only way to go me! I really don't know why more people aren't doing this, if you think your pecker looks big on a little baby 24" screen, you ought to see it on a 65 incher.... Just sayin 😁.
Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it, but you forgot one important setting. Find "sharpness" in the TV's picture settings and set it to neutral. Some TVs have this at 0, some have it in the middle. If the picture gets blurry, you're too low. Voila, those pesky halos around text and other small details are gone and you get less eyestrain! :)
@@nikoskabbadias Happy I could help! It's one of those things I don't understand why it's even on by default, it's really only useful for upscaled content.
I've been gaming at 1440p @ 120 hz on my 55" Samsung Q70 which only cost about $800 a year ago, and it's a pretty fantastic experience. The main problem was really that the experience was not great out of the box because the TV was not developed with use as a PC monitor as the primary focus. But if you're willing to research and calibrate a bit, plenty of modern TV's are excellent PC monitors. That's especially true if cost is an issue and your other option is spending $2000+ almost purely to save the time of a bit of calibration. Just remember that a PC monitor is going to prevent you from streaming at 4K HDR from most services because of HDCP issues, so when you're using your TV for that purpose, use the built-in apps for things like Netflix and Amazon if your goal is the best picture quality available. On that note, you're going to have this same problem if you DO spend $2000 on a high end large gaming monitor......and those aren't going to necessarily have built-in streaming apps to avoid the issue like any modern smart TV does.
Ive been using a tv as my monitor for years now and I love it. I sit on a recliner and play single player games for the most part so its always been perfect for me. I picked up a Vizio MQ855 specifically because it was a 4k 60hz tv with VRR at a very decent price. I only wish I had the scratch for a P series tho :p
2:48 Seriously, TV makers? With digital TV and fixed pixel displays, there is no reason for overscan to be enabled by default on modern screens. Whenever I visit someone else's house, I disable TV overscan on flat panels (not tubes tho)
I have a sony trinitron crt as my secondary monitor, works damn well, has great colors, and response time. only problem was, I needed a hdmi to composite converter. But that wasnt too hard to get
How is the input lag with one of those converters. My gtx 970 that actually had analogue output through dvi but it broke so now I have to buy either a converter or a new secondary gpu.
@@catorb6607 sadly, ever since switching to new gpu with no analog. It has been a bit slower:( still a great monitor for watching TH-cam while playing some games though:)
@@skeledog1942 guess I'm going to have to buy a gtx 980 at some point (they're soooo expensive right now though) I tried using a 550ti but they're just way too weak. That sucks
@@catorb6607 there may be some very expensive high quality converters that could do it well, although yeah, I would say you would want an anolog output card to get the best experience. Would be nice if Nvidia made an optional VGA connection on their cards (like on the gt710)
@@skeledog1942 I miss upscaled emulation that actually looks good. I can't think of a way to explain why crts look better to play games. It looks pretty awful compared to a decent LCD for displaying small text, but playing a game and it feels like it adds so much depth to the image. Also, the scaling benefits that make some of my favorite games from like 99-05 look not terrible. Just another reason to hate GPU shortage
Coincidentally watching this on an older Vizio television (Model E320-B0) my PC is hooked up to. Even though I recently had to replace its LED backlighting strips after they burnt out, I haven't really had any image problems with it. I don't run games above 1080p 60FPS, I sit about 4ft away from the screen at maximum. It has some image settings for computer use and a low latency gaming mode. Chroma subsampling test I just did seems to show that it's displaying colors correcting with minimal to no fringe.
I've been using a big screen TV since 2011 as my main monitors. I'm working from a sofa and don't need a desk anymore. It's way better than the cramped posture you assume with your body, as well as being easier on the eyes since they don't have to focus on an object that is so small and so close as they would have while viewing a regular monitor.
Bought chinese knockoff NES and 620 games installed... after 2 hours wrestling with PC monitor and 3 TV in house old Panasonic CRT was pulled out from storage. And eureka works like charm and mario speed run works like charm 😃😃😃
Left out the most important (and annoying) part: you HAVE to change the display settings scale and layout. If you leave it at 100% (normal) on 1080, 4k, or 8k res, then the icons and text (and really everything) will be microscopically small. I always up my scale and layout % to about 200 - 250% and then it's a wonderful experience, except for some shitty apps that don't resize certain windows properly.
I use a Samsung 55 inch curved 4k 4:4:4 etc. TV. I have not been gaming lately, but when I do, there is a setting on the TV for gaming that eliminates most of the processing to improve the response. Text is sharp and clean. My viewing distance is 24 inches, if I lean in, I can start to see the pixels at about 11 inches. If I watch a movie or TV show, I roll back to around 3 1/2 to 4 feet.
Unfortunately, I was in a position where I was using an ultrawide monitor, but it was borrowed (from a company's office) and I had to return it. I am rocking a 240hz monitor, but am currently waiting for a new GPU (I am on EVGA'S waitlist)
you should've stated the rule-of-thumb that the perfect viewing distance from a monitor is sitting at a distance equal to three times the diagonal length of the monitor. 1:15
1 more point, TV (at least as of now) only support HDMI, no DP! While not too important, it can still be troublesome, as I for one have a few DP spare cables (and a USB C), but no HDMI around!
I have been using TVs happily as gaming monitors for years. They are important as I do a lot of work on them too and the extra real-estate is appreciated. My newest TV/Monitor runs at A TRUE 120hz 1440. Which honestly my GPU has difficulties keeping up with.
but fringing is baked into the fonts. Try this: Take a picture of a webpadge (any web padge) using the printscreen button, paste it into say, paint, zoom in and look, it's right there in the font itself, it's not an artifact of the TV.
I used a 1080 40 inch for a few years, then a 4K 47 inch for a few more years. Honestly at 4K it was pretty great. Only reason I switched was for a curved monitor, and even then I have a 43 inch ultra wide.
As much as I like vizio colors and contrast their tvs are unreliable, I have had so many problems with them, black outs, blooming issues, they need to improve their quality.
I've been using TVs for my work PC since I started having eye strain issues sitting too close to a typical desktop monitor. My first PC TV was a 32" LED TV that my family upgraded from. I started sitting about a 1.5meters away from then on. I eventually upgraded to a 42/44" (can't remember exact size) that my family also upgraded from that used to be the main living room TV. I then moved a bit further back. It was 2 years ago that I finally bought (instead of a "hand me down") my first main TV PC Setup which is a 55" while still retaining the same viewing/working distance. Main reason for the upgrade was color accuracy and the fringing you mentioned. I "lived" with it on the 42/44" TV for a few years until I upgraded my main work PC and was outputting around 1440p now. I used to only output to 1080p/1080i only. And no matter what I did to the settings, the old reliable 42/44" just wasn't able to correct. My work setup is now a 55" main TV monitor with a 2nd 32" inch TV hanging above it as a secondary extended display output. 32" is mainly for playing TH-cam, Spotify Web Player or Netflix while I work. No issues with fringing on either.
Gaming on a TV is actually not bad for the kind of games I play. I did find that RTS games are a little challenging when sitting far away from the screen due to the viewing distance. For most games, TVs work surprisingly well with RPGs, survival games, and slower paced titles but fast paced titles may be a challenge. FPS games tend to have more lag than other titles but it is not an issue when I play the story modes or multiplayer with friends with some of the games I own. Gaming on a TV, whether from the TV the PC is attached to or in another room entirely, works for my needs.
There's also the power management issue. My TV does not turn on/off with the computer and when xscreensaver tries to turn off my monitors my TV displays a "No Signal" message instead. Also also, TVs are shiny, but monitors usually have matt surfaces which makes them easier to place without seeing a lot of glare.
First time when I tried to plug my laptop into my tv in order to play assassin creed black flag went horrible. Cropped display, no audio, weird artefacts and random disconnects. The second time I managed to fix the last 3 problems but took me some time to do so. After watching this video I know how to fix the cropped display problem now. Thanks!
I play on my Samsung 40' tv plugged to my PC thru HDMI, and yes I have done all these settings before hand and it's great I don't have to buy external speakers.
I'm using a 4k LGTV (something-uk470PLC, I can't remember the first numbers) on the cheaper end and damn I love the experience. I gives a nice richness to the content, and in game mode there is lit no more latency than a monitor. The only downside is that it only supports 4K60, though it can also support 1080p120 and 720p240. Also it seems to be free-sync compatible, since free-sync among other technologies work as intended. I've been using it as a monitor for years, and the HDR10 is pretty nice, though HDR100 or HDR1000 would be much better, as it lags behind when it comes to calibrating white.
I'm using 55'' 8K TV as my main monitor in my daily work. I must say moving from 3x 24'' 1080p screens to 1x 55'' 8K was a similar level of improvement like moving from 1x 1080p to 3x 1080p. I am really surprised how much difference it makes and how addictive it is to have large high resolution screen. It's defiinitely not perfect. I wouldn't mind it to have a slight curvature and maybe even 48'' would be more comfortable instead of 55''. But it is still so much better than 3x 24'' 1080p. Pros of using 8k TV as main monitor: - much better colors - much better brightness - much better resolution - you can use it to watch movies - built in speakers are usually really, really good And it's all much more cheaper than 4x 4K PC monitors that supports HDR Cons: - screen glare - it's difficult to find TVs smaller than 55'' that supports 8K - you need to have new gen GPU to fully utilize HDMI 2.1 - it's tricky to find TV that supports all the HDMI 2.1 gaming features
I use a 43” 4K display on my desk, it’s amazing for juggling applications and looks great when I play easier to run games. And of course watching movies and shows are way better. First two days I had awful eye strain and headaches but it went away
Apologies for forgetting the retina display calculator in the video description. It's there now - thanks for letting us know.
some betrayals are unforgivable :(
A reply
Lol it's down. Probably can't handle the traffic generated from this video
Don't know when it happened, but I'm diggin' the new logo!
where is it ????
I was needing this episode so bad... I've used my PC on a 55 inch screen since forever and sometime was having problems
Just got a LG CX 48, it is amazing as my PC monitor which I use for of course gaming, but also multimedia design for work.
I've been using a samsung led tv for my couch computer set up for the last few years. NU8000, the 55 inch or bigger versions will run in 1440p 120hz which is all I could ever ask for and I've experienced zero burn in unlike my old plasma. Text is readable, no weird scaling issues, very pleased
ive been rocking a samsung mu7000 55 inch for 2 years as my monitor and it has done a remarkable job, going to upgrade to the new LG oled it Sony oled soon, I have a primary monitor for normal use and just extend to the TV for movies and gaming.
Im rocking a 55" Samsung Q95 for my desk PC, works great, 4k, 120hz. Which id have gone big sooner
was looking all over for this video so much bad fractling put 2 different gpus in my pc till I found this my Oled makes it like the gpu is dead when its not but after tweaking settings now emulate all my old games XD
Damn, for years I had "Default color settings" instead of "NVIDIA color settings" ... Thank you!!
What is Dynamic Super Resolution 1080p, 3840 x 2160, HD (4.00x) ? I have gtx 1060 on 1080p monitor
Did it, did it, done.
What about portable monitor
You have a new logo
I Noticed
So, where is the link In the description?
Requires an additional paywall/segway
This has been fixed. Thanks for letting us know!
@@techquickie Could you tell where the link is?
And is that a new profile picture?
@@techquickie
Without a VPN, vizio[dot]com somehow redirects to viziosoundbar[dot]uk which is blocked by web security.
LIE-nus
Tell this to the cs go pros that sit 1 cm away from thier monitors lol
Correction 000.000.000.000.000.000.000.1 cm
I bought a 55" 4k tried to use it as monitor, but that really doesn't work. Colors and resolution are not good enough. IMO Maximum for a 4k resolution is 42" , above that it should be 5k.
I do have 2x 42" monitors on my work desk.
Device just dropped 40 kills against liquid and he's basically licking the monitor, leave us alone it works
I'm glad you didn't say show them this video.. they'll most probably start developing serious vision issues unless they are taking a lot of time for eye care on their off time
@@larsradtke4097 lol I have a 55” 1080p tv
I use a VR headset for online school lmao. I use the seethrough mode and virtual desktop
I think this is totally the future. Why buy multiple big expensive monitors if you can just put on one vr headset and use virtual monitors.
Yeah I use OVR toolkit on my pimax 8k+ with dual monitors
"online school" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@daniel_960_ why use those big heavy and dorkey VR headsets when i could just put this little chip in your brain?
@@joey9511 after that Supergirl season?
I used crt my entire life then I jumped to lg oled tvs in like 2014 now I use a sony ag9 soon a90j and I adore the experience but I didn't know the text artifacting was common I just assumed it's a res issue
there is no problems only solutions
yeah, i thought for the longest time too till i got a 4k LG hand down in 2016, and used as a monitor. Turns out it was a HDMI bandwidth issue. If i wanted accurate colors, i just had to bring it back to 30fps.
Then I also discovered my pioneer plasma tv had a PC mode. All the modern cast devices look better now.
A90j is a waste of money. Purchase the 77 inch a80j for the best bargain. The a90j actually provides too much peak brightness in some instances; causing detail to be lost in HDR content.
Me who literally just ordered a LG CX48 OLED TV as my monitor and I get this video on my feed
I got one as my new PC monitor-holy shit, man, it's a total game-changer. Your mind is gonna be blown.
google farms everyones data ofcourse it will pop up
Get ready to enjoy that sweet, sweet BURN IN BABY!! Love OLED for movies but for PC use it's a REALLY bad idea (as I have the 55" version and it's burned to pieces)
@Yontek Nohara Yeah, that'll work for a while then it'll burn baby burn. I too LOVE OLED for black levels and for movie viewing I will never go back but after destroying an OLED already (and doing everything possible for that not to happen) I'll NEVER waste one with a PC again. It. Will. Burn. Just a matter of time, that's all.
Waiting for the 40" version to come out
Privacy Error on the affiliate link, and you didn't link the calculator as described
Yeah, the calculator isn’t there
They are always bad at updating their video description I've noticed.
For the calculator just Google "Is this Retina" and it will be the first link.
@daniel yuen nope, not just him. It redirects me to some weird company website with an invalid SSL.
No ones gonna talk about the new logo
Ohh no they changed it, now we miss it
"pain in the neck" I see what you did there.
Lmao
I use a CRT with a resolution of 1200x1600 and 50Hz in more cinematic games and 1024x786 at 85Hz in more speedy games. Works just fine, you just got to make sure that the gpu is outputting the video signal at the right vga frequency. It has basically no input lag and I got it for free, so I'm pretty pleased with it.
I'm running an old flat screen from 2009. It was the first thing I plugged my PC into it was my first flat screen and I still use it to this day, just not as my main display. Its not even 1080p.
ive a 1080 tv from around then too, I still use it cause ive an 2006 MacBook Pro thats screen doesn't work but the dvi output still works and it cant handle newer panels, ive loads of music, roms and it runs xp for old games too
@@catorb6607 why the fuck would it end up in the ocean? Think for once.
it's*
Number one thing to remember when plugging a pc into most tvs is to use the hdmi port marked (arc). Yes I am aware that it should only effect sound. However this port seems to have more bandwidth and if you are having trouble getting hdr to work in windows try the (arc) hdmi port.
Omg yes that fixed my display issues.
Bros a god
James + Techquickie = Worth to watch
i have to agree
@@gradientO i won't disagree on that, Anthony always the best on his ways
Linus+Madison+any channel = Boom V Zoom
(Like batman V superman, but actually good)
playing ps2 on old ass tv is really nostalgic. brings back 3rd grade memories
And they look way better. I kinda need to get a crt for my good ps2
2:36 In regards to using a traditional pc + monitor setup, be sure to set the Output Dynamic Range option from Limited to Full in that same menu (you'll have to do this for each monitor by clicking the icons at the top of this page). A lot of monitors seem to default to Limited which results in washed out colors, but setting it to Full fixes this issue
(also keep in mind you'll have to do this every time you update your drivers if you do a clean install)
"We've linked a calculator in the description" why you lie to us like this?
Just search retina display calculator, it's the first link that pops up
Every video that they upload saying this doesn't have the link mentioned
@@dasa2344 yeah I did that, but as others have said they always say links in the description and don't put them. If they're not going to put them just stop saying it.
techquickie has gotten worse, I miss the white bg and content that I would actually be interested to watch :(
After 7 Years of owning my TV, my image is finally not cropped anymore. Love you guys
you....you never googled it...
@@xm1808 I looked for the real resolution of my TV, If I was scammed, never occurred to me that it was a wrong setting.
@@shriker5969 You know... This actually happens to quite a lot of people 😆
I didn't have subs turned on for 2 years when I bought my 5.2 Yamaha sound system, didn't know they had their own power buttons. Didn't know for 7 years in sonic 3 in the casino map you only had to push up or down to make the red spinny thing go up and down, I legit spent years trying to jump up and down to make it go low enough and didn't find out until it was emulated on PC and seen sonic snowboarding for the first-time blew my mind.
It's similar I guess to me going into new workplaces and finding people not having drivers installed on their laptops so external displays don't work properly or sound doesn't go through or yeah screen mode isn't set to full it's set to like 16:9 or auto when their screens don't run at 16:9, had a few old projectors freeze up trying to display higher resolutions than it can support and people didn't know they could just extend instead of duplicate for perfect picture quality and allows them to do work while showing a video to the class etc. People and some tech is just frustrating lol
I made a video about this several years ago and am still using my Hisense 43" TV for gaming without a problem :)
I love using my TV as a second monitor it's great to have a clock or picture slideshow or spotify on while working or gaming on my monitor. For more comfortable gaming/movie watching I keep a wireless keyboard with a trackpad and a wireless controller on the coffee table
I do have 42" 4k monitors, they are ok. I bought a 55" TV and that doesn't work as Monitor. 42" is the fine spot for 4k
Using 2 50" 4K TVs as monitors right now on my main rig... as well as an HTPC hooked up to the 55" 4K one I use for consoles and television viewing.
Nothing stopping me 👀 dual screen on 47 inch & 32 inch 👀
Very good video. I've been using 2 TVs as monitors for a long time, ~15 years. 42" 1080p seems my ideal with old eyes for both work & play.
I don't play multiplayer, TVs work great for single player action like latest Far Cry etc-can't beat those panoramic vistas, or larger heads to aim at :)
Seeing the pixels is an advantage of having a tv on your desk, pixel perfect precision!
New Logo? Why? Are changing managements?! I love the "Tq" simple and it reminds me of the elements.
Instructions unclear, 1:1 aspect ration is a square for me 😳
Instructions misinterpreted. 1:1 is my pixel aspect ratio
I connect my pc to my tv in my living room because I find couch gaming so much more enjoyable than sitting at a desk. And then I use a corsair lapdog to play games but that's a pain in the ass sometimes
Sounds like the southpark wheel to me.
You did not pay >$100 for a thing you can build yourself for less than $5 did you?
CRT gang raise up
Been using my pc on a TV for a decade now, never had any problems. Love how there's seemingly more real estate on the desktop, so much room for activities!
@@calholli well I'll have you know I'm a massive gamer.
@@TheBritishPatriot I feel you are more into Single Player Games which can be more viable with TV screens but Multiplayer Games especially Competitive ones is just stupid to play on a TV Screen but at the end of the day, you do you.
@@rikumajumder1558 It's not like it used to be, a lot of TV's today have input lag imperceptible from gaming monitors of the same refresh rate(I've measured and compared myself with a high speed camera). Unless you need more than 120hz then the newer LG OLED's(C8 and newer) for example work excellent for FPS games, they also have near instantaneous response times, crazy good colors, blacks and HDR which you simply can't get out of a backlit panel
I have three Displays hooked up to my PC, 1 24" inch monitor, a 15" monitor, and a 43" TV. I game on the TV when I want to sit on the couch. However, I've been doing a bit of VR (Rift S) so my Displays are kinda useless right now.
@@rikumajumder1558 that is truth.
I love VGA CRTs. I have a few, so far the AOC I have is my favorite, but it was in a fire and idk if it works now :( GBS Control or an OSSC allows for consoles on VGA CRTs, check them out! (The GBS is a DIY much cheaper scaler, to help with horizontal sync and resolution, the latter quite popular)
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@@SzymonPmc I thought something didn’t look right
My colors "were"screwed and I couldn't figure out how to make it look right... Until I found that the reason I couldn't figure it out was the fact that I had to use Nvidia control panel to override the color to reference mode rather than enhanced. After doing so my tv matched my monitor perfectly. I hope this helps someone.
So after a year I can safely say reference mode is best for all displays as it just shows it as it was intended. Is also seems to make even the most contradicting displays match 1:1 so big win with this one
One more thing is if your using a TV as a display and it's 720p set it to 768p and for 1080p set it to 1824×1026 it looks weird in text but will fit perfectly and look just as good as tv aspect ratio is slightly off from a monitor even being 16×9
Thank you
I found a CRT with HDMI in. It's been delightful.
Usually those had a little input lag anyways because of the HDMI to RGB circuitry needed. Still nice as long as its not the horrible widescreen ones which were super smudgy in the edges.
Five minute video telling me to make sure my colors are correctly set.
When it comes to the image edge being outside of the screen, you can often fix this by changing the input type to "PC", "Computer" or "Game". Every TV is different, but usually you will go to either the source option or the input settings. Find the input channel you are trying to use such as "HDMI 1" and there is probably an option to change the input type.
It's the first thing I look for as it seems to address multiple issues relating to the colour and sharpness, but the most noticeable fix is that the image matches the screen size without having to resize anything manually or change the aspect ratio.
I haven't used a computer monitor as my main screen for at least 15 years now. My very first big screen TV was some Panasonic rear projection type LCD and from that day on a big screen was the only way to go me! I really don't know why more people aren't doing this, if you think your pecker looks big on a little baby 24" screen, you ought to see it on a 65 incher.... Just sayin 😁.
Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it, but you forgot one important setting.
Find "sharpness" in the TV's picture settings and set it to neutral. Some TVs have this at 0, some have it in the middle. If the picture gets blurry, you're too low.
Voila, those pesky halos around text and other small details are gone and you get less eyestrain! :)
God bless you man. For years I ve been hooking up TVs to PCs and I could never solve this problem, the sharpness setting did it. Thanks xx
@@nikoskabbadias Happy I could help! It's one of those things I don't understand why it's even on by default, it's really only useful for upscaled content.
0:34 Kids these days. Back when I started using computers you could make out the individual pixels from 6 feet away.
Yeah, and the CRT made them a little softer than a fixed pixel display does nowadays 😂🤣
Thank you!!! I've been running with my picture over the edges for a long long time and this fully fixed it.
I've been gaming at 1440p @ 120 hz on my 55" Samsung Q70 which only cost about $800 a year ago, and it's a pretty fantastic experience. The main problem was really that the experience was not great out of the box because the TV was not developed with use as a PC monitor as the primary focus. But if you're willing to research and calibrate a bit, plenty of modern TV's are excellent PC monitors. That's especially true if cost is an issue and your other option is spending $2000+ almost purely to save the time of a bit of calibration. Just remember that a PC monitor is going to prevent you from streaming at 4K HDR from most services because of HDCP issues, so when you're using your TV for that purpose, use the built-in apps for things like Netflix and Amazon if your goal is the best picture quality available. On that note, you're going to have this same problem if you DO spend $2000 on a high end large gaming monitor......and those aren't going to necessarily have built-in streaming apps to avoid the issue like any modern smart TV does.
Ive been using a tv as my monitor for years now and I love it. I sit on a recliner and play single player games for the most part so its always been perfect for me. I picked up a Vizio MQ855 specifically because it was a 4k 60hz tv with VRR at a very decent price. I only wish I had the scratch for a P series tho :p
Do you need a gpu to connect it to a pc
@@ViralV-b8n no need for GPU. but recommend GPU because tv screen is higher than monitor.
2:48 Seriously, TV makers? With digital TV and fixed pixel displays, there is no reason for overscan to be enabled by default on modern screens. Whenever I visit someone else's house, I disable TV overscan on flat panels (not tubes tho)
I have a sony trinitron crt as my secondary monitor, works damn well, has great colors, and response time. only problem was, I needed a hdmi to composite converter. But that wasnt too hard to get
How is the input lag with one of those converters. My gtx 970 that actually had analogue output through dvi but it broke so now I have to buy either a converter or a new secondary gpu.
@@catorb6607 sadly, ever since switching to new gpu with no analog. It has been a bit slower:( still a great monitor for watching TH-cam while playing some games though:)
@@skeledog1942 guess I'm going to have to buy a gtx 980 at some point (they're soooo expensive right now though) I tried using a 550ti but they're just way too weak. That sucks
@@catorb6607 there may be some very expensive high quality converters that could do it well, although yeah, I would say you would want an anolog output card to get the best experience. Would be nice if Nvidia made an optional VGA connection on their cards (like on the gt710)
@@skeledog1942 I miss upscaled emulation that actually looks good. I can't think of a way to explain why crts look better to play games. It looks pretty awful compared to a decent LCD for displaying small text, but playing a game and it feels like it adds so much depth to the image. Also, the scaling benefits that make some of my favorite games from like 99-05 look not terrible. Just another reason to hate GPU shortage
1:08 nothing of the sort. It's full of shilling links.
Coincidentally watching this on an older Vizio television (Model E320-B0) my PC is hooked up to. Even though I recently had to replace its LED backlighting strips after they burnt out, I haven't really had any image problems with it. I don't run games above 1080p 60FPS, I sit about 4ft away from the screen at maximum. It has some image settings for computer use and a low latency gaming mode. Chroma subsampling test I just did seems to show that it's displaying colors correcting with minimal to no fringe.
I've been using a big screen TV since 2011 as my main monitors. I'm working from a sofa and don't need a desk anymore. It's way better than the cramped posture you assume with your body, as well as being easier on the eyes since they don't have to focus on an object that is so small and so close as they would have while viewing a regular monitor.
Bought chinese knockoff NES and 620 games installed... after 2 hours wrestling with PC monitor and 3 TV in house old Panasonic CRT was pulled out from storage. And eureka works like charm and mario speed run works like charm 😃😃😃
Love the video!
>old CRTs
Yeah I replaced my CRT with a 4:3 S-IPS panel from an old IBM workstation years ago. No more 30 kg paperweight on my desk!
here's a challenge: try a shaver
Left out the most important (and annoying) part: you HAVE to change the display settings scale and layout. If you leave it at 100% (normal) on 1080, 4k, or 8k res, then the icons and text (and really everything) will be microscopically small. I always up my scale and layout % to about 200 - 250% and then it's a wonderful experience, except for some shitty apps that don't resize certain windows properly.
Cool 😎
Waaait first comment?
you didn't even watch the video lmaooo
Yeah I agree
@@Balouxe I sure didn’t
First comment!
I use a Samsung 55 inch curved 4k 4:4:4 etc. TV. I have not been gaming lately, but when I do, there is a setting on the TV for gaming that eliminates most of the processing to improve the response. Text is sharp and clean. My viewing distance is 24 inches, if I lean in, I can start to see the pixels at about 11 inches. If I watch a movie or TV show, I roll back to around 3 1/2 to 4 feet.
1440p is fine...
NEVER BUYING CHINESE PRODUCTS. NO THANKS, BUDDY. STICKING WITH OUR GOOD OLD AMERICAN, KOREAN OR JAPANESE PRODUCTS.
I am using a Philips 4k TV (with Ambylight :-) since more than year now and I am still happy ...
Techquickie? More like Dumbquickie in bed! You can obviously download more VRAM!
1:18 What is that device he's using with the keyboard/mouse on his lap?
No matter how good a TV is, I can't go back to a non ultrawide display
Unfortunately, I was in a position where I was using an ultrawide monitor, but it was borrowed (from a company's office) and I had to return it. I am rocking a 240hz monitor, but am currently waiting for a new GPU (I am on EVGA'S waitlist)
you should've stated the rule-of-thumb that the perfect viewing distance from a monitor is sitting at a distance equal to three times the diagonal length of the monitor. 1:15
1 more point, TV (at least as of now) only support HDMI, no DP! While not too important, it can still be troublesome, as I for one have a few DP spare cables (and a USB C), but no HDMI around!
Bro I've been hooking up TVs to PCS since VGA thanks for the video though i would have been grateful about 5-10 years ago
Can you do a vid on EtherChannel? still not sure what it is and how to use it, despite the resources out there
I got a LG CX to plug my PC on but I cannot get any signal at all and LG have been no help at all.
I have been using TVs happily as gaming monitors for years. They are important as I do a lot of work on them too and the extra real-estate is appreciated.
My newest TV/Monitor runs at A TRUE 120hz 1440. Which honestly my GPU has difficulties keeping up with.
where is the link for the tv size / distance calculator?
I was looking for this as well.
There is no spoon, I mean link.
Whelp, someone forgot the link.
Me whos Monitor decided to die for no reason.
ima fix dat color fringing
Vizio's latest model is t being sold in Canada :(
Unpopular opinon
I don't like change go back to the old logo
but fringing is baked into the fonts. Try this: Take a picture of a webpadge (any web padge) using the printscreen button, paste it into say, paint, zoom in and look, it's right there in the font itself, it's not an artifact of the TV.
I used a 1080 40 inch for a few years, then a 4K 47 inch for a few more years. Honestly at 4K it was pretty great. Only reason I switched was for a curved monitor, and even then I have a 43 inch ultra wide.
As much as I like vizio colors and contrast their tvs are unreliable, I have had so many problems with them, black outs, blooming issues, they need to improve their quality.
What have you done to the techquikie logo 😱 nooooooo.......
How about a reverse game?
Using a large monitor as a TV?
I use a TV as a 3rd monitor on my PC. So far it's been an alright experience.
I wish I had a CRT monitor. I’ve got plenty of CRT TVs but no monitors with high line counts
I had the inverse situation. I had a CRT monitor, but wanted a TV
i have been using TV as monitors for years...
I've been using TVs for my work PC since I started having eye strain issues sitting too close to a typical desktop monitor.
My first PC TV was a 32" LED TV that my family upgraded from. I started sitting about a 1.5meters away from then on. I eventually upgraded to a 42/44" (can't remember exact size) that my family also upgraded from that used to be the main living room TV. I then moved a bit further back.
It was 2 years ago that I finally bought (instead of a "hand me down") my first main TV PC Setup which is a 55" while still retaining the same viewing/working distance. Main reason for the upgrade was color accuracy and the fringing you mentioned. I "lived" with it on the 42/44" TV for a few years until I upgraded my main work PC and was outputting around 1440p now. I used to only output to 1080p/1080i only. And no matter what I did to the settings, the old reliable 42/44" just wasn't able to correct.
My work setup is now a 55" main TV monitor with a 2nd 32" inch TV hanging above it as a secondary extended display output. 32" is mainly for playing TH-cam, Spotify Web Player or Netflix while I work. No issues with fringing on either.
Gaming on a TV is actually not bad for the kind of games I play. I did find that RTS games are a little challenging when sitting far away from the screen due to the viewing distance. For most games, TVs work surprisingly well with RPGs, survival games, and slower paced titles but fast paced titles may be a challenge. FPS games tend to have more lag than other titles but it is not an issue when I play the story modes or multiplayer with friends with some of the games I own. Gaming on a TV, whether from the TV the PC is attached to or in another room entirely, works for my needs.
Privacy Error on the affiliate link, and you didn't link the calculator as described
Your PfP wtf
@@I_am_not_here THATS WHAT IM SAYING MAN
@@I_am_not_here It's a bot, it just steals real peoples comments
There's also the power management issue. My TV does not turn on/off with the computer and when xscreensaver tries to turn off my monitors my TV displays a "No Signal" message instead.
Also also, TVs are shiny, but monitors usually have matt surfaces which makes them easier to place without seeing a lot of glare.
The human eye can only see the screen
First time when I tried to plug my laptop into my tv in order to play assassin creed black flag went horrible. Cropped display, no audio, weird artefacts and random disconnects. The second time I managed to fix the last 3 problems but took me some time to do so. After watching this video I know how to fix the cropped display problem now. Thanks!
I play on my Samsung 40' tv plugged to my PC thru HDMI, and yes I have done all these settings before hand and it's great I don't have to buy external speakers.
Dual 43" 4K Toshiba Fire TVs. Bloody awesome. Visual distance 4'10" to the center of one, 5'5" to the center of the other.
I'm using a 4k LGTV (something-uk470PLC, I can't remember the first numbers) on the cheaper end and damn I love the experience. I gives a nice richness to the content, and in game mode there is lit no more latency than a monitor. The only downside is that it only supports 4K60, though it can also support 1080p120 and 720p240. Also it seems to be free-sync compatible, since free-sync among other technologies work as intended. I've been using it as a monitor for years, and the HDR10 is pretty nice, though HDR100 or HDR1000 would be much better, as it lags behind when it comes to calibrating white.
I'm using 55'' 8K TV as my main monitor in my daily work. I must say moving from 3x 24'' 1080p screens to 1x 55'' 8K was a similar level of improvement like moving from 1x 1080p to 3x 1080p.
I am really surprised how much difference it makes and how addictive it is to have large high resolution screen.
It's defiinitely not perfect. I wouldn't mind it to have a slight curvature and maybe even 48'' would be more comfortable instead of 55''. But it is still so much better than 3x 24'' 1080p.
Pros of using 8k TV as main monitor:
- much better colors
- much better brightness
- much better resolution
- you can use it to watch movies
- built in speakers are usually really, really good
And it's all much more cheaper than 4x 4K PC monitors that supports HDR
Cons:
- screen glare
- it's difficult to find TVs smaller than 55'' that supports 8K
- you need to have new gen GPU to fully utilize HDMI 2.1
- it's tricky to find TV that supports all the HDMI 2.1 gaming features
I have played PC on a big tv since 2018 laying in bed
I’m only getting 60 Hz how do I get 120 Hz?
I use a 43” 4K display on my desk, it’s amazing for juggling applications and looks great when I play easier to run games. And of course watching movies and shows are way better. First two days I had awful eye strain and headaches but it went away
overscan is the bane of my existence when using TVs and computers.
Yes, why does it still exist in the era of fixed-pixel flat-panel displays and digital television?