Honestly neat seeing this work, makes me wanna try on my Surgard. Also learned something from yall today with the lynx system, did not know that could be a thing that is amazing. Loved the video.
@@1979-x9z You have a Sur Gard receiver too? Let me know if you need any help with it, or if you know anything about it! It's really hard to find any info about Sur Gard before DSC bought them.
Yeah, that's true. Only 10,000 possible codes. I don't think remote phone access is allowed for UL certified installations. But for a hobbyist, it's extremely useful.
@@HappyJigg I couldn't find anything in UL 681 regarding remote access via the phone line. Even monitoring services like ADT normally leave it on during installation (It's a similar issue to ADT installers being trained to set the Duress Code to 2580 during installation). Additionally, I'm not sure about how the codes could be brute-forced, each failed code attempt might require reconnection (It would probably require something on the level of war dialing, considering that every single access call takes about 20 seconds to enter), but it's most likely going to be much less than 10,000. And I'm going to have to be honest here: The amount of establishments that I've seen just leaving the master code and/or the verbal password for the monitoring center out is mind-bogglingly stupid, and the ones that don't usually have some idiotic codes. A lot of establishments really aren't UL-Certified or even UL-Compliant. And the ones who are will DEFINITELY not be using an all-in-one panel like the XT, since as another comment pointed out, someone can just beat the ever-loving crap out of the main panel and kill it before it even begins communication with a monitoring station. At the end of the day, even for residential purposes, it's a lot of security theater. Don't get me wrong, it still holds its ground in some situations. But with all of its security flaws, it's iffy at best, and downright disastrous at the worst.
Honestly neat seeing this work, makes me wanna try on my Surgard. Also learned something from yall today with the lynx system, did not know that could be a thing that is amazing. Loved the video.
@@1979-x9z You have a Sur Gard receiver too? Let me know if you need any help with it, or if you know anything about it! It's really hard to find any info about Sur Gard before DSC bought them.
I think my old school used to have one of these. I don’t know if they changed it.
Remote Access is a flaw in itself. If a bad actor finds the master code, game over.
Yeah, that's true. Only 10,000 possible codes. I don't think remote phone access is allowed for UL certified installations. But for a hobbyist, it's extremely useful.
@@HappyJigg I couldn't find anything in UL 681 regarding remote access via the phone line. Even monitoring services like ADT normally leave it on during installation (It's a similar issue to ADT installers being trained to set the Duress Code to 2580 during installation). Additionally, I'm not sure about how the codes could be brute-forced, each failed code attempt might require reconnection (It would probably require something on the level of war dialing, considering that every single access call takes about 20 seconds to enter), but it's most likely going to be much less than 10,000. And I'm going to have to be honest here: The amount of establishments that I've seen just leaving the master code and/or the verbal password for the monitoring center out is mind-bogglingly stupid, and the ones that don't usually have some idiotic codes. A lot of establishments really aren't UL-Certified or even UL-Compliant. And the ones who are will DEFINITELY not be using an all-in-one panel like the XT, since as another comment pointed out, someone can just beat the ever-loving crap out of the main panel and kill it before it even begins communication with a monitoring station. At the end of the day, even for residential purposes, it's a lot of security theater. Don't get me wrong, it still holds its ground in some situations. But with all of its security flaws, it's iffy at best, and downright disastrous at the worst.
I had one that acted as an actual security system and not just a mess-around. One time someone broke in and smashed it when they found it lol.
That's the main problem with these all in one systems, everything important is out in the open and very easy to compromise.