It's not just animated to hide the artists. It's a whole story called Interstalla 5555 ( インターステラ5555), which is animated film on their 2nd album. Daftpunk went to one of their childhood heroes Leiji Matsumoto. Do recommend watching the whole album.
The whole Discovery album where Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger is from, is a all-u-can-eat sample buffet... there are videos on youtube where you can listen to the original songs and the Daft Punk versions. Arianna mentioned their digging through old music to let these old songs [re-] shine again - the album name is Discovery for a reason I think! Plus: if you pronounce Discovery with a heavy french accent, it sounds like "Disco very" -> very Disco! Favorite album, subscribed cause I love your friendly interactions with each other
The only thing that I wished differently was to maybe hear Arianna more. Not judging. Such interactions are difficult to equilibrate, maybe... Love you bunch for what you do.
I love this channel's content so far. Have watched about 5 of the videos, and plan to watch them all! Each time, at the end of the video, I think "Why aren't the women getting a word in edgewise?". I don't think it's on purpose, and I don't think Jack and the other men are doing anything "wrong" per-se, but it's getting suspiciously common in these videos. Maybe it's just indicative of the role and position of women in the music industry, STILL, even though it's the 2020s? That would be sad, if true. I dunno.
@@MrCleannn uhm, you still have to watch their Bruno Mars and Silk Sonic video. There's a singer lady that talks a lot on that video, it was really nice.
Definitely wished she was more talkative. I think it’s a personality thing - the lads just seem more chatty than she is but it’s still a little uncomfortable 😣
You can even tell in the way the introductions are done. It’s micro aggressive, why start with Ryan in the middle and not from the far left or far right. They introduce Ariana last and list the least of her accomplishments. Kinda turned me off to the video. But either way. I’m sure everyone’s paid happy and living their best lives haha. Have a good day. Time for me to log off and stretch.
Discovery is such a good album. Daft Punk has a really uncanny ability to find great ideas, and refine those ideas even more, where that one idea can carry the whole song. One other song from Discovery is "Digital Love," which is based wholly on the intro of George Duke's "I Love You More" from the album "Master of the Game." The intro is such a great piece of music, but George essentially wastes it, as it isn't repeated or modulated at all in the song after the intro. Daft Punk found that golden nugget, and based a whole song on that small sample with an epic guitar/synth solo.
Remember that Daft Punk came from the underground techno house scene in France and played many shows in the States before going big in the 1990s. They are sample heavy and partly created the French underground sound using choppy disco samples and filters. They made music on the grid for the club DJs so that they would play their tunes in the undergrounds. They were ahead of their time but heavily influenced by Detroit and house music from the 80s. 🔊❤️ love your take!
I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago, and I can confidently say that you're crushing the react videos scene! I'm learning a lot with the analyses and I know that ya'll know very well what you're talking/discussing about. Keep up the good work!
This video shows how fucked up the copyright system is and how it sniffles creativity instead of promoting it like lawyers and big corp like to say (because of course they benefit from it).
I really like the format of you popping out of the screen to explain the more obscure music references and machinery. I have a moderate understanding of music and music theory Which these explanations really enhance my appreciation of what I’m listening to. Thanks for this!
"Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" is built around a "bouncy" keyboard riff sampled from the 1979 track "Cola Bottle Baby" by the funk musician Edwin Birdsong.[4] In 2016, Birdsong said: "I recorded [Cola Bottle Baby] 30 years ago, and here come some guys from France. I asked them, 'Where did you find the music?' And they said, 'I was going through bins and it popped out.' ... I'm blessed and I continue to be blessed by opening my arms to God every day."[4] The track also features vocoded vocals.[5] It is set in the key of F♯ minor.[6]
This video shows how fucked up the copyright system is and how it stifles creativity instead of promoting it like lawyers and big corp like to say (because of course they benefit from it).
@@OjoRojo40 agreed. music should be open source. nobody is original. capitalism just stifles innovation in general, the sentiment that it is the driving force is such nonsense, considering how patents and compartmentalism directly infringe upon open sharing of knowledge among experts. In western culture we have subscribed to this idea that without a profit incentive, people would just sit around twiddling their thumbs. it's ridiculous.
I actually created a game show centered around samples, which I've named Life's Sample Pleasures; basically, I show a clip of the original recording, and contestants have to buzz in to guess which popular song uses that recording as a sample! I get into a lot of trivia about copyright law, lawsuits, and who has to give who credit. It's a whole lot of fun, and gives great examples of how samples can be a lot of things (lyrics, melody, rhythm, speech, sound effects). I also ended up making mini-games centered around guessing which are the songs we don't know are covers, covers that were translated to other languages, identifying songs within mashups, and trying to figure out which song Weird Al is making a parody of!
I would love that game. We've got a local DJ who spins entire sets of the songs that were sampled and we'll catch him on breaks to guess what the newer songs were
I use to play a similar game - but the other way round - where I would ask people to name the original from a bunch of well know songs that sampled the original. As a former scratch DJ back in the days, some of my repertoire revolved around playing the originals and waiting for heads to turn when listeners recognised the "sample" from the original. They didn't know where it was from. Like an educational audio version of trainspotting!
I’m pretty sure the robot vocal thing was a talkbox on this song, not a vocoder. With a talkbox, you can get clearer consonant sounds because you’re actually speaking the words into a microphone and using your vocal tract to create them. Except instead of using your vocal cords to generate the sound, you use a synthesizer fed through a tube in your mouth. This allows the consonants to still sound human because your mouth is creating them as if you were actually speaking, but the sound is generated from an unnatural source, which makes it sound robotic. Vocoders tend to smear the consonants in an unnatural way that talk boxes don’t.
Scary Pockets used a talkbox in their own version of this song so Jack knows about this very well. ;-) There's also a talkbox version by Lorenz Rhode on TH-cam. OTOH there are a lot of hints that Daft Punk really used a vocoder. You may hear the vocoder version of James Beckwith which is very near to the original sound. No problems with the consonants though.
@@Fastvoice you could be totally right, but to me it sounds just like a Talkbox with a DX100 or similar feeding it. Maybe with a bit of compression added too. Vocoders have this certain breathiness to them that I’m not hearing at all in this song. Also I’m pretty sure there was an interview years ago where they said they used a Heil Talk Box for this song. I know they use vocoders quite a bit in their music but HBFS doesn’t sound like it to me.
Real musicians not shitting on sampling ❤️ the hip hop community appreciates you all! Lol appreciate the video as always! Wishing all of you the best 🤙
It would be awesome to see a reaction to Giorgio by Moroder & Touch from Random Access Memories album someday. For me, that two songs are Daft Punk's best work
Totally agree! I think when that album released I was put off because of Get Lucky being on the radio everyday but now listening to it after their Epilogue I feel sad I'm only just appreciating that album now.
I personally feel like Homework and Discovery was Daft Punk taking music that shaped them and making it into their own thing they were inspired by from sampling them. Random Access Memories was them, in turn, working with some of those very original artists to create wholly new works that were all homages to all the things that shaped them in their youth, and presented in pretty much a similar fashion as the original works they sampled from. In essence, giving back what they took out. Perhaps for future 'Daft Punk' like musicians to do the same. I think it was really proved out by the sheer amount of folks who made whole tracks out of the Get Lucky teaser that released months and months prior to RAM releasing. There were so many remixes.
Speaking of music groups that intentionally don’t put the spotlight on the artist, but instead on the music (and ALSO have animated band members), you HAVE to do an episode on Gorrilaz!
do you guys have a podcast? if you don't, i think it would be a great idea. what you are doing its very "podcastable" and i would love to listen to it when im driving
i love these videos! Thanks for making these. I learn so much from you geniuses. I love that you explain the certain technical terms, too! Respect and love from Japan 🎹🎧👊
Daft Punk has been on the cutting edge of underground music for a long time. Their album "Homework" which was like 96' is what really solidified their place in in techno to the point where a song like this is just kids play for them.
LOVED THIS! I am subscribed to another of your channels, then stumbled on Scary Pockets, where I saw Jack playing. Love the interaction, discussions and THIS TOPIC. Lots of music out there with music that seems real familiar in the background, like Vanilla Ice Familiar. Love how some can take a beat, the music from another and put it to their own words and make it better. As long as they credit those that created music, lyrics. Sometimes, the originals need help, how it is sung, to make it vibe right. Thanks for the music, the discussions and opening the eyes and ears of music.
On another note, you guys have a deeply musically knowledgeable viewership. I'm not one of them but I have spoken to some,through the comment section, who have great insight into music. It's funny to me that you associate yourselves with such talented people and it draws talented people to you. Thanks for all you guys do
Van Gogh uses contrasts and shapes, Kurt Vonnegut uses absurdities and contrasts, Ingmar Bergman uses intimate closeup shots and establishing shots - i.e. contrasts - to conway state of mind. It's easy to analise this stuff after the fact, most of the best art is easy to describe and criticize after the fact, but most of us couldn't come close to making anything like it
Birdsong is credited as a writer on that track so that's cool, but I just learned that they burned the artist they sampled for "One More Time" which came out in 2000. It may be only just this year he started receiving royalties.
what bothers me about them is how they just sample the catchiest part of a song and then uses that to make their song catchy. skillful sampling is imho more about finding hidden gems that aren't highlighted in the original track or at least recontextualizing (this is just from the top of my head but noname using part of a future verse as a chorus for a vince staples beat. that's changing the function of the sample, and recontextualizing it fully)
I remember reading about "One More Time" that they tried to find Eddie Johns whose song they sampled for the music, but couldn't. Yet they continued to pay royalties to the publishing house involved as they continued to search for him. Great to hear that he was eventually found!
@@RaphaHell crossed wires. Romanthony was the vocalist, who Daft Punk worked with directly. The song the music sampled was by Eddie Johns, who could not be located. Edited my earlier comment.
To be fair, One More Time is nowhere near a straight up sample like Harder Better Faster Stronger. If HBFS were akin to buying a frozen cheese pizza and putting your own peppers on it before you cook it, then OMT is like buying a sausage pizza, scraping the toppings off, throwing out the dough, and using the cheese, meat, and tomato sauce to make a pasta dish. Almost everyone would recognize HBFS's sample if you played them Cola Bottle Baby, but they would just think that More Spell on You sounds weirdly familiar.
On the topic of lyrics and melody, check out the history of hymnal music. There was a period where one book contained lyrics and a separate book contained tunes. Each was notated with what meter they fit. A song leader would then choose any pair of tune and lyric having the same meter and lead the congregation singing that combination. Basically congregations would memorize the tunes (4 part harmony) and then read the chosen lyric to sing. Some modern hymns are simply the most popular combination of tune and lyric from that period.
Technical lexicon was clearer when it cut to someone actually explaining what they meant instead of just showing a note in the corner of the video. Amazing work you're doing guys!
My grandfather always said that the genius was not the one who invented the first telephone, but the one who invented the second. Saludos desde Argentina!
I love the history of the vocoder. It was invented in war time as a way to encode vocals. Like they would record a message to send back to HQ, encode it with the vocoder and send it so the enemy couldn't understand it, then HQ got it, decoded it, and it came out sounding like this. Understandable, but kind of robotic.
As Theo said, as long as it was credited there was no theft. They are essentially doing what Scary Pockets does, using other people's songs and changing it up. You however always credit and I'd imagine you pay a service to use those songs. If daft punk pawned this off as there own, they stole it. Great discussion guys and everyone seemed to be very informative.
@@calixtetayoro5719 I would imagine the credits would appear on the album. I don't own it, so I don't know. That would seem the proper way to do it and how I've seen it done before.
I'd love to hear your take on ABBA's Take a Chance on Me. Between the vocal riffs and harmonies, perfect drumming and funky dancy Swedish melody, I think it's a near perfect song.
Hi guys, I recently saw a video about a live performance where stuff didn’t go as planned and you can tell there’s a lot going on stage and I wish I could get you guys to react to live performances like that knowing about how things like that have to work in order for the performance to come off well, btw it was a live of lauryn hill I’ll try to link it when I find it, this channel is GREAT btw.
I just found this channel, and I really like the asides, because I'm not a professional musician (well even musician and have an auditory processing disorder), but they really helped with my understanding, plus I love music and music theory...
As there are such things as formant filters, the descriptions of the vocoder is off in the video. A vocoder dosn't work with ferments but bands. But if the modulator is a voice it will have formant characteristics, but if it's drums it won't. Different vocoders have different numbers of bands, the more bands to closer the it will sound to the original modulator. Each band is assigned to a band pass filter, which funnily enough the video started discussing with the intro. But that was one band pass. A vocoder may have 11 or 22 or any number of band pass filters assigned to a different frequency range,
Really like your breakdowns. I'd suggest that, rather than a "round", since that implies the same melody with staggered starting points, this seems more like "counterpoint", where you have independent melodies simultaneously layered on each other.
This song is such a great jam! You should check out the cover I did of it on my channel! I always show this song to people and then it like instantly goes on heavy rotation for them hahaha!
i have seen every vulfpeck video at least 15 times and i've seen them in concert twice but somehow i still wouldn't recognize theo when he appears on professional musicians react
Love this channel! I don't (can't, actually) play any instruments, don't really have any technical knowledge, and I used to listen to songs through broader lens (sounds good or not to my ears) after I discovered this channel, I realized there are so many layers and aspects of a song, makes me appreciate songs and artists more!
i staggered into this this channel randomly last night and binged like half the videos. what a good time, guys! also, interstella5555 is the raddest shit and deserves to be watched by everyone with eyes that function, in the same way that it deserves to be listened to by everyone who has functioning ears
i recorded [Cola Bottle Baby] 30 years ago, and here come some guys from France. I asked them, 'Where did you find the music?' And they said, 'I was going through bins and it popped out.' ... I'm blessed and I continue to be blessed by opening my arms to God every day." - Edwin Birdsong 2018
Also they come from from an era where sampling was an important part of creating tracks. House music was at some point in history Disco songs chopped with a TR 808 on top.
Wait so it IS Theo! The whole video I was like "they should react to Theo Katzman and Vulfpeck because that guy looks like Theo" 😂! (Big fan btw) Also, very happy you guys reviewed HBFS! Daft Punk has always enjoyed sampling songs. However, some samples are so small and minute that they don't credit it, and it enables fans to look for them and find them; samples in the song Face To Face have been discovered as recently as a few years ago! Bonus fact: in their last album (RAM), Daft Punk only used 1 sample, at the beginning of their song Contact. Everything else is 100% original! Stay funky and keep it low volume!
Hi, I’m a big fan of this channel… you guys are doing a great job. I was watching the daft punk video and listening you talking about copyright infringements. I would like to know your opinion about this Adele song called “Million Years Ago”, released in her 2015 album, and the almost 90% resemblance with “Mulheres”, from the Brazilian songwriter Toninho Geraes. Actually I think he is already suing her for that. I think this is related to the daft punk discussion, and it happens all the time, specially now, that we have a much more global multicultural music industry. Thanks guys!
Sampling some disco/funk tracks from the 70s + adding some electronic elements like filters/synth basslines/drum machines patterns on top of it : That's basically how the "French Touch" or Filtered House movement started in the 90s ! And Daft Punk took it to the next level with their album Discovery
Exactly, if you know the history of Daft Punk/the French Touch, this is not all that groundbreaking. Basically find an old disco record, loop, filter, put some four on the floor under it and you’re done. Not to take anything away from this track or others - I love em. Just don’t think these guys understand that history.
Regarding the comment about this being the rock'n roll version of electronic music: I saw Daft Punk live in 1997, just after they released their epic Homework album, and I was blown away how dynamic their set was and how similar it was to a great rock band. They were reacting to the crowd, and they developed the songs organically and with great technical prowess; they were actually performing and not regurgitating the songs (or using any type of playback or over-using sequencing aso.) As much I like their songs, I loved their performance. I would imagine this would be similar to seeing Led Zeppelin back in the day (great on records, epic live).
14:30 - I've always felt that this part can be described as if they locked in all the vocoder formants like am ice tray and only filled each square specific amounts of water (by improvising a solo)
This was great but guys, you gotta make sure guests are given ample time to speak their minds. Arianna maybe put two whole words in the entire video. Granted, not everyone has an opinion for everything all the time, but the guests should be made to feel like they are encouraged to speak during these segments. Its hard to chime in when 3 people are bouncing ideas around. Also try to be a bit more wary when it comes to talking over each other, it breaks the experience having to go back and hear what people are saying. Overall its beautiful content and super insightful. Keep it up
The "it's one sample actually" concept blew my mind actually. Because think about it, in the beginning when it just does the intro to the words "work it, make it..." are on 1&3 where as "harder better..." are on 2&4. And its all one sample so thats whyyyyy 🤯
awesome of you guys reacting to daft punk! Daft Punk is my all time favourite Band/Artist and its safe to say that this is also due to you Jack Conte and your Daft Punk covers/remixes. me being 12-14 years old and finding my love in electronic music was such a crazy journey and a lot of it was thanks to you! theres alot more to say here but i want to keep it short. i may have 2 suggestions for you guys that would mean a llot to me if you could react to them: Coldplay - Coloratura and Imagine Dragons - Dull Knives Both are new songs and i have to say im not a coldplay or imagine dragons fan and never really liked their pop songs but these 2 songs are just phenomenal... especially Coloratura..man i just cant get enough of it its like the kids of all the Pink Floyd members formed a band
He got it spot on when he said it’s the rock and roll of electronic music. I’m not big into Electronic músic, but daft punk and their fellow French djs that followed are my shit! Justice especially. They have that rock and electronic music sound
Daft PUnk has reached places in first place and the others still don't know exist....if they had given the same samples to hundreds of producer duos...DP would keep making it different original, and unique...That's right, laws that regulate the use of samples persecute the artist and creative Based on the belief that the work would not exist OR BE A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS without those samples.....to take money instead of telling them "How creative and respectful they were when using my work, and with how much dedication they worked on it, thank you for having requested it, it is an honor"
Hey guys, just found your channel and absolutely love, love, love it! Especially the one you did on “September” by Earth Wind and Fire. OUTSTANDING. The only thing is, every time I see Ryan Lerman, I keep expecting him to start singing “Sledgehammer” by Peter Gabriel lol.
I love, love, LOVE this new series! It's so educational and entertaining. I hope it grows to a lengthier podcast. :) I would love to hear you all react to Lingus by Snarky Puppy.
The Scary Pockets cover of the song, featuring Swatkins and the German Big Band was Awesome!💥 Swatkins, with his Talk Box, is just about the only musician who could pull off the lead part and do the cover justice.
@@nhattuyenvodieu3103 It’s the Frankfurt Radio Big Band, a German jazz ensemble. Brilliant backing group for Scary Pockets on the song. th-cam.com/video/RHu0ALxqUIo/w-d-xo.html
@@christofjork8446 Yes, I had forgotten about the Pamplamoose cover. Very cool version. The "talking" guitar solo was great. And Nick Campbell cooks on bass, as usual.
Would be great to hear more from Arianna in these videos. In a 20.45min long video her voice is heard maybe for about 1minute. And also her inputs is kind of muted and not discussed. And it sounds like her mic is not det for her speaking voice. We always like to watch this show all the way from Sweden!
They didn’t notice that the gridded move is actually used because of intastella 5555 it’s set to the anime itself. If you watch it the first cue is during the pod drop right at the beginning of the song. Rewatch the video and you notice it happen alot more frequently.
As others have said, the animation is from Interstella 5555. It's basically the entire discovery album from start to finish as an anime. 100% recommend watching.
Musical quotations are as old as music. The only difference between the present and the past is that now you don't have to play the music to get the sound. It's a technology issue, not an artistry issue.
Your point about culture outpacing the standards and legalities is very true, and it's crazy to think just how far that goes with the internet, not just in music, but everything: art, code, even words (twitter much?) The current precedent exists for much less throughput. We have turned everything into intellectual property, and the next few decades will probably change the way we deal with use and infringement. I'm a music production teacher, and the overwhelming majority of my students (mostly younger gen z) don't see it as stealing even in very clear cases. Hard to say how much that is just youth and inexperience...I felt much more open with my music when I was younger. Now that my livelihood is based on licensing and royalties, I have to care a lot more.
How many takes did that intro acapella take? How long did y'all practice beforehand? Needless to say I think it's awesome and I'm an uber-fan of it. More acapella please!
If you listen closely on the solo its very clear that they aren't just playing the same vocal track, there is a lot of variance in the vocal phrases. Of course they could have played different tracks or something but there are differences for sure from the sections that play on the verses
Is this where we leave our suggestions? Well I love your show and all music, especially classic rock, so... Can you please do a show on Crimson and Clover by Tommy James. I love ALL THE INSTRUMENTS and can't figure a cpl out. T James said he liked Princes cover of it. I love Joan Jetts too. But love the long version of Tommy James Crimson and Clover it's so amazing to pull the sounds out! Thanks and your doing great! Peace Always~
So out comes my only Daft Punk album for another listen in the context of what you guys just taught me..... These videos are becoming my favorite bit of learning every week.... Thanks again for your insight into these tracks. Love it heaps.
"The vocoder eliminates the accent!"
Daft Punk: "Strongueur"
do eet faster makes uz straungheur
Hahahaha yes!
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They get away weeth eet because they are reubot! 😉
It's not just animated to hide the artists. It's a whole story called Interstalla 5555 ( インターステラ5555), which is animated film on their 2nd album. Daftpunk went to one of their childhood heroes Leiji Matsumoto. Do recommend watching the whole album.
I wish they had seem the whole movie, it's so good and it's not even that long.
@@aldoantunes It's an hour still
Something about us is my favorite song off of interstellar 5555. I watch it at least once a year.
@@PurpleLionRs it makes me cry all the time
You're totally right they should see interstella I'm a daft punk fanatic ahahha I got 5 copies of the movie just In case
Daft Punk and their teenage sons, Justice, two French electro duo to be proud of.
Can't wait for Justice's new album.
Me too!
i really gotta get into justice i see so many people talking about them!
When Theo reacted to, "I feel like this is the rock and roll of electronic music" I felt that in my soul. Absolutely nailed it
The whole Discovery album where Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger is from, is a all-u-can-eat sample buffet... there are videos on youtube where you can listen to the original songs and the Daft Punk versions. Arianna mentioned their digging through old music to let these old songs [re-] shine again - the album name is Discovery for a reason I think! Plus: if you pronounce Discovery with a heavy french accent, it sounds like "Disco very" -> very Disco!
Favorite album, subscribed cause I love your friendly interactions with each other
Really underraterd comment
Brilliant. Thanks.
And Verdis Quo is also a pun on Discovery.
The only thing that I wished differently was to maybe hear Arianna more. Not judging. Such interactions are difficult to equilibrate, maybe... Love you bunch for what you do.
She said “totally” at 14:19.
I love this channel's content so far. Have watched about 5 of the videos, and plan to watch them all! Each time, at the end of the video, I think "Why aren't the women getting a word in edgewise?". I don't think it's on purpose, and I don't think Jack and the other men are doing anything "wrong" per-se, but it's getting suspiciously common in these videos. Maybe it's just indicative of the role and position of women in the music industry, STILL, even though it's the 2020s? That would be sad, if true. I dunno.
@@MrCleannn uhm, you still have to watch their Bruno Mars and Silk Sonic video. There's a singer lady that talks a lot on that video, it was really nice.
Definitely wished she was more talkative. I think it’s a personality thing - the lads just seem more chatty than she is but it’s still a little uncomfortable 😣
You can even tell in the way the introductions are done. It’s micro aggressive, why start with Ryan in the middle and not from the far left or far right. They introduce Ariana last and list the least of her accomplishments. Kinda turned me off to the video. But either way. I’m sure everyone’s paid happy and living their best lives haha. Have a good day. Time for me to log off and stretch.
Discovery is such a good album. Daft Punk has a really uncanny ability to find great ideas, and refine those ideas even more, where that one idea can carry the whole song. One other song from Discovery is "Digital Love," which is based wholly on the intro of George Duke's "I Love You More" from the album "Master of the Game." The intro is such a great piece of music, but George essentially wastes it, as it isn't repeated or modulated at all in the song after the intro. Daft Punk found that golden nugget, and based a whole song on that small sample with an epic guitar/synth solo.
Ryan really hit us with the “when in rome.”
One of Theo’s bigger songs is called “do as the romans do”
Ooh, subtle. Nice catch!
Remember that Daft Punk came from the underground techno house scene in France and played many shows in the States before going big in the 1990s. They are sample heavy and partly created the French underground sound using choppy disco samples and filters. They made music on the grid for the club DJs so that they would play their tunes in the undergrounds. They were ahead of their time but heavily influenced by Detroit and house music from the 80s. 🔊❤️ love your take!
I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago, and I can confidently say that you're crushing the react videos scene! I'm learning a lot with the analyses and I know that ya'll know very well what you're talking/discussing about. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Patrick, I'm so glad you like it!
These are total music nerd deep dives into some obscure minutiae. Totally up my alley.
This video shows how fucked up the copyright system is and how it sniffles creativity instead of promoting it like lawyers and big corp like to say (because of course they benefit from it).
I really like the format of you popping out of the screen to explain the more obscure music references and machinery. I have a moderate understanding of music and music theory Which these explanations really enhance my appreciation of what I’m listening to. Thanks for this!
"Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" is built around a "bouncy" keyboard riff sampled from the 1979 track "Cola Bottle Baby" by the funk musician Edwin Birdsong.[4] In 2016, Birdsong said: "I recorded [Cola Bottle Baby] 30 years ago, and here come some guys from France. I asked them, 'Where did you find the music?' And they said, 'I was going through bins and it popped out.' ... I'm blessed and I continue to be blessed by opening my arms to God every day."[4] The track also features vocoded vocals.[5] It is set in the key of F♯ minor.[6]
Wikipedia?
This video shows how fucked up the copyright system is and how it stifles creativity instead of promoting it like lawyers and big corp like to say (because of course they benefit from it).
@@OjoRojo40 agreed. music should be open source. nobody is original.
capitalism just stifles innovation in general, the sentiment that it is the driving force is such nonsense, considering how patents and compartmentalism directly infringe upon open sharing of knowledge among experts.
In western culture we have subscribed to this idea that without a profit incentive, people would just sit around twiddling their thumbs. it's ridiculous.
@@purplism4857 Patents only work for big corporations that can amass them like any other form of capital.
@@OjoRojo40 indeed *puffs bubble pipe* it's the CIA maaaan
I actually created a game show centered around samples, which I've named Life's Sample Pleasures; basically, I show a clip of the original recording, and contestants have to buzz in to guess which popular song uses that recording as a sample! I get into a lot of trivia about copyright law, lawsuits, and who has to give who credit. It's a whole lot of fun, and gives great examples of how samples can be a lot of things (lyrics, melody, rhythm, speech, sound effects). I also ended up making mini-games centered around guessing which are the songs we don't know are covers, covers that were translated to other languages, identifying songs within mashups, and trying to figure out which song Weird Al is making a parody of!
I would love that game. We've got a local DJ who spins entire sets of the songs that were sampled and we'll catch him on breaks to guess what the newer songs were
where is this game show!?
Where can I watch it ?
I use to play a similar game - but the other way round - where I would ask people to name the original from a bunch of well know songs that sampled the original. As a former scratch DJ back in the days, some of my repertoire revolved around playing the originals and waiting for heads to turn when listeners recognised the "sample" from the original. They didn't know where it was from. Like an educational audio version of trainspotting!
dang this would be super helpful. do you have it out yet?
I’m pretty sure the robot vocal thing was a talkbox on this song, not a vocoder. With a talkbox, you can get clearer consonant sounds because you’re actually speaking the words into a microphone and using your vocal tract to create them. Except instead of using your vocal cords to generate the sound, you use a synthesizer fed through a tube in your mouth. This allows the consonants to still sound human because your mouth is creating them as if you were actually speaking, but the sound is generated from an unnatural source, which makes it sound robotic. Vocoders tend to smear the consonants in an unnatural way that talk boxes don’t.
Scary Pockets used a talkbox in their own version of this song so Jack knows about this very well. ;-) There's also a talkbox version by Lorenz Rhode on TH-cam. OTOH there are a lot of hints that Daft Punk really used a vocoder. You may hear the vocoder version of James Beckwith which is very near to the original sound. No problems with the consonants though.
@@Fastvoice you could be totally right, but to me it sounds just like a Talkbox with a DX100 or similar feeding it. Maybe with a bit of compression added too. Vocoders have this certain breathiness to them that I’m not hearing at all in this song. Also I’m pretty sure there was an interview years ago where they said they used a Heil Talk Box for this song. I know they use vocoders quite a bit in their music but HBFS doesn’t sound like it to me.
I agree i think this is a talkbox too. The definition in the vocals you get with a talkbox is crisper than with a vocoder.
It's a vocoder. Daft Punk only ever used talkbox on Around the World
I learned something new. Thats cool
Real musicians not shitting on sampling ❤️ the hip hop community appreciates you all! Lol appreciate the video as always! Wishing all of you the best 🤙
It would be awesome to see a reaction to Giorgio by Moroder & Touch from Random Access Memories album someday. For me, that two songs are Daft Punk's best work
Totally agree!
I think when that album released I was put off because of Get Lucky being on the radio everyday but now listening to it after their Epilogue I feel sad I'm only just appreciating that album now.
I personally feel like Homework and Discovery was Daft Punk taking music that shaped them and making it into their own thing they were inspired by from sampling them. Random Access Memories was them, in turn, working with some of those very original artists to create wholly new works that were all homages to all the things that shaped them in their youth, and presented in pretty much a similar fashion as the original works they sampled from. In essence, giving back what they took out. Perhaps for future 'Daft Punk' like musicians to do the same.
I think it was really proved out by the sheer amount of folks who made whole tracks out of the Get Lucky teaser that released months and months prior to RAM releasing. There were so many remixes.
@@ZuluDaGuerrilla Giving Life Back to Music now has added meaning to me after your comment and perfectly sets up that album imo.
Wow, this is my new favorite show on TH-cam. Looking forward to many more episodes of musical deep diving. Thank you!
Please keep Theo coming back to do more episodes, he’s just so interesting and entertaining listening too!
My only complaint is that it would have been nice if you all had used vocoders during the argument.
that would have been...
😂
Speaking of music groups that intentionally don’t put the spotlight on the artist, but instead on the music (and ALSO have animated band members), you HAVE to do an episode on Gorrilaz!
18:25 the blonde’s face says it all... “Why did I agree to this...? Why am I here? These men talk more than my girlfriends...” 😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the arrivederci at the end :)
I really enjoy the videos, wish I could talk with you in person, bravi!
do you guys have a podcast? if you don't, i think it would be a great idea. what you are doing its very "podcastable" and i would love to listen to it when im driving
The vocoded vocal fry kinda effect on "our work is never over" is one of my favourite little bits of a song ever
i love these videos! Thanks for making these. I learn so much from you geniuses. I love that you explain the certain technical terms, too! Respect and love from Japan 🎹🎧👊
Daft Punk has been on the cutting edge of underground music for a long time. Their album "Homework" which was like 96' is what really solidified their place in in techno to the point where a song like this is just kids play for them.
Oh my god, so this is where the Launchpad legend went, I can't believe I found the famous CONTE once again
LOVED THIS! I am subscribed to another of your channels, then stumbled on Scary Pockets, where I saw Jack playing. Love the interaction, discussions and THIS TOPIC. Lots of music out there with music that seems real familiar in the background, like Vanilla Ice Familiar. Love how some can take a beat, the music from another and put it to their own words and make it better. As long as they credit those that created music, lyrics. Sometimes, the originals need help, how it is sung, to make it vibe right. Thanks for the music, the discussions and opening the eyes and ears of music.
Opening with a barbershop tag means you totally need to review a top tier barbershop performance in a video! Please?
WHAT A CREW! Oh man, Id love to be in a room with you all! So fun!
On another note, you guys have a deeply musically knowledgeable viewership. I'm not one of them but I have spoken to some,through the comment section, who have great insight into music. It's funny to me that you associate yourselves with such talented people and it draws talented people to you. Thanks for all you guys do
Van Gogh uses contrasts and shapes, Kurt Vonnegut uses absurdities and contrasts, Ingmar Bergman uses intimate closeup shots and establishing shots - i.e. contrasts - to conway state of mind.
It's easy to analise this stuff after the fact, most of the best art is easy to describe and criticize after the fact, but most of us couldn't come close to making anything like it
Interstellar 5555 is a whole anime based on the album, so cool.
Birdsong is credited as a writer on that track so that's cool, but I just learned that they burned the artist they sampled for "One More Time" which came out in 2000. It may be only just this year he started receiving royalties.
what bothers me about them is how they just sample the catchiest part of a song and then uses that to make their song catchy. skillful sampling is imho more about finding hidden gems that aren't highlighted in the original track or at least recontextualizing (this is just from the top of my head but noname using part of a future verse as a chorus for a vince staples beat. that's changing the function of the sample, and recontextualizing it fully)
I remember reading about "One More Time" that they tried to find Eddie Johns whose song they sampled for the music, but couldn't. Yet they continued to pay royalties to the publishing house involved as they continued to search for him. Great to hear that he was eventually found!
@@mattsephton Romanthony... just don't know if they found him before he passed. Sad story :/
@@RaphaHell crossed wires. Romanthony was the vocalist, who Daft Punk worked with directly. The song the music sampled was by Eddie Johns, who could not be located. Edited my earlier comment.
To be fair, One More Time is nowhere near a straight up sample like Harder Better Faster Stronger.
If HBFS were akin to buying a frozen cheese pizza and putting your own peppers on it before you cook it, then OMT is like buying a sausage pizza, scraping the toppings off, throwing out the dough, and using the cheese, meat, and tomato sauce to make a pasta dish.
Almost everyone would recognize HBFS's sample if you played them Cola Bottle Baby, but they would just think that More Spell on You sounds weirdly familiar.
On the topic of lyrics and melody, check out the history of hymnal music. There was a period where one book contained lyrics and a separate book contained tunes. Each was notated with what meter they fit.
A song leader would then choose any pair of tune and lyric having the same meter and lead the congregation singing that combination.
Basically congregations would memorize the tunes (4 part harmony) and then read the chosen lyric to sing.
Some modern hymns are simply the most popular combination of tune and lyric from that period.
It was actually the Pomplamoose cover of this song that made me realize I was deeply missing out on Daft Punk.
Technical lexicon was clearer when it cut to someone actually explaining what they meant instead of just showing a note in the corner of the video. Amazing work you're doing guys!
My grandfather always said that the genius was not the one who invented the first telephone, but the one who invented the second. Saludos desde Argentina!
oh my gosh, the Andy Shauf shoutout is HUGEEE!!! I might be in love XD
Thanks for helping me appreciate music in general more guys, what a gift!!
While making me laugh my ass off every 30 seconds or so!
I love the history of the vocoder. It was invented in war time as a way to encode vocals. Like they would record a message to send back to HQ, encode it with the vocoder and send it so the enemy couldn't understand it, then HQ got it, decoded it, and it came out sounding like this. Understandable, but kind of robotic.
As Theo said, as long as it was credited there was no theft. They are essentially doing what Scary Pockets does, using other people's songs and changing it up. You however always credit and I'd imagine you pay a service to use those songs. If daft punk pawned this off as there own, they stole it. Great discussion guys and everyone seemed to be very informative.
I couldn't agree more!
Great show once again! Do we (how can we) know for sure whether they credited the original composer?
@@calixtetayoro5719 I would imagine the credits would appear on the album. I don't own it, so I don't know. That would seem the proper way to do it and how I've seen it done before.
Edwin Birdsong is credited and was very lucky that his old song had been found somewhere in the bin and reused.
@@Fastvoice vinyl heads keep Edwin's music out of bins
I'd love to hear your take on ABBA's Take a Chance on Me. Between the vocal riffs and harmonies, perfect drumming and funky dancy Swedish melody, I think it's a near perfect song.
Hi guys, I recently saw a video about a live performance where stuff didn’t go as planned and you can tell there’s a lot going on stage and I wish I could get you guys to react to live performances like that knowing about how things like that have to work in order for the performance to come off well, btw it was a live of lauryn hill I’ll try to link it when I find it, this channel is GREAT btw.
I just found this channel, and I really like the asides, because I'm not a professional musician (well even musician and have an auditory processing disorder), but they really helped with my understanding, plus I love music and music theory...
Wow… so many ideas, very inspiring! Awesome! 💙
As there are such things as formant filters, the descriptions of the vocoder is off in the video. A vocoder dosn't work with ferments but bands. But if the modulator is a voice it will have formant characteristics, but if it's drums it won't. Different vocoders have different numbers of bands, the more bands to closer the it will sound to the original modulator. Each band is assigned to a band pass filter, which funnily enough the video started discussing with the intro. But that was one band pass. A vocoder may have 11 or 22 or any number of band pass filters assigned to a different frequency range,
Really like your breakdowns. I'd suggest that, rather than a "round", since that implies the same melody with staggered starting points, this seems more like "counterpoint", where you have independent melodies simultaneously layered on each other.
Suggestion for the next song: Summer Romance by Incubus. Not well known but has Lots of interesting parts and a cool blend of genres!
This song is such a great jam! You should check out the cover I did of it on my channel! I always show this song to people and then it like instantly goes on heavy rotation for them hahaha!
i have seen every vulfpeck video at least 15 times and i've seen them in concert twice but somehow i still wouldn't recognize theo when he appears on professional musicians react
Yooo these just keep getting better
The sample discussion makes me wonder your thoughts on Paul’s Boutique. Groundbreaking and ahead of it’s time.
0:12 "oUr WoRk Is NeVeR oVeR"
Wow I cracked up because that's exactly what happens in my mind when I hear that part
Love the intros! Please keep it every vid!
Love this channel! I don't (can't, actually) play any instruments, don't really have any technical knowledge, and I used to listen to songs through broader lens (sounds good or not to my ears) after I discovered this channel, I realized there are so many layers and aspects of a song, makes me appreciate songs and artists more!
i staggered into this this channel randomly last night and binged like half the videos. what a good time, guys!
also, interstella5555 is the raddest shit and deserves to be watched by everyone with eyes that function, in the same way that it deserves to be listened to by everyone who has functioning ears
i recorded [Cola Bottle Baby] 30 years ago, and here come some guys from France. I asked them, 'Where did you find the music?' And they said, 'I was going through bins and it popped out.' ... I'm blessed and I continue to be blessed by opening my arms to God every day."
- Edwin Birdsong 2018
I really enjoyed your analysis! made me notice things that I wouldn't usually pose to myself!
This assessment is amazing - and I’d love to hear this panels analysis of C2C ‘s song Happy
This is a really good series. Hope Jack can continue to find time for it!
Also they come from from an era where sampling was an important part of creating tracks. House music was at some point in history Disco songs chopped with a TR 808 on top.
this is great! I like how u guys r developing the show!
Thanks so much!
Wait so it IS Theo! The whole video I was like "they should react to Theo Katzman and Vulfpeck because that guy looks like Theo" 😂! (Big fan btw)
Also, very happy you guys reviewed HBFS! Daft Punk has always enjoyed sampling songs. However, some samples are so small and minute that they don't credit it, and it enables fans to look for them and find them; samples in the song Face To Face have been discovered as recently as a few years ago! Bonus fact: in their last album (RAM), Daft Punk only used 1 sample, at the beginning of their song Contact. Everything else is 100% original!
Stay funky and keep it low volume!
Hi, I’m a big fan of this channel… you guys are doing a great job. I was watching the daft punk video and listening you talking about copyright infringements. I would like to know your opinion about this Adele song called “Million Years Ago”, released in her 2015 album, and the almost 90% resemblance with “Mulheres”, from the Brazilian songwriter Toninho Geraes. Actually I think he is already suing her for that. I think this is related to the daft punk discussion, and it happens all the time, specially now, that we have a much more global multicultural music industry. Thanks guys!
I feel like this is the first time I've ever heard a person (who wasnt me) talk about andy shauf! He's so goood
Sampling some disco/funk tracks from the 70s + adding some electronic elements like filters/synth basslines/drum machines patterns on top of it : That's basically how the "French Touch" or Filtered House movement started in the 90s ! And Daft Punk took it to the next level with their album Discovery
Exactly, if you know the history of Daft Punk/the French Touch, this is not all that groundbreaking. Basically find an old disco record, loop, filter, put some four on the floor under it and you’re done. Not to take anything away from this track or others - I love em. Just don’t think these guys understand that history.
Regarding the comment about this being the rock'n roll version of electronic music:
I saw Daft Punk live in 1997, just after they released their epic Homework album, and I was blown away how dynamic their set was and how similar it was to a great rock band. They were reacting to the crowd, and they developed the songs organically and with great technical prowess; they were actually performing and not regurgitating the songs (or using any type of playback or over-using sequencing aso.) As much I like their songs, I loved their performance. I would imagine this would be similar to seeing Led Zeppelin back in the day (great on records, epic live).
Oh shit I've never seen Theo dressed like that I didn't recognize him at first lol
I am not the only one, thank you. His glasses really are iconic.
I thought I was the only one who thought that way. Lol
All this talk about vocoders but I’m pretty sure they used a talk box 😕
14:30 - I've always felt that this part can be described as if they locked in all the vocoder formants like am ice tray and only filled each square specific amounts of water (by improvising a solo)
Thanks for these videos!!.... learning so much about the nuances of what makes good music, and the effort and thought that goes into it
This was great but guys, you gotta make sure guests are given ample time to speak their minds. Arianna maybe put two whole words in the entire video. Granted, not everyone has an opinion for everything all the time, but the guests should be made to feel like they are encouraged to speak during these segments. Its hard to chime in when 3 people are bouncing ideas around. Also try to be a bit more wary when it comes to talking over each other, it breaks the experience having to go back and hear what people are saying. Overall its beautiful content and super insightful. Keep it up
I don't even know anything about her, but she's gotta be better than Theo.
The "it's one sample actually" concept blew my mind actually. Because think about it, in the beginning when it just does the intro to the words "work it, make it..." are on 1&3 where as "harder better..." are on 2&4. And its all one sample so thats whyyyyy 🤯
Hearing a breakdown of how the vocoder actually works, that makes sense. That's awesome.
This show is Amazing! I’ve been dying for a show that breaks down music they way we breakdown films. I would kill for you to discuss Jacob Collier!
awesome of you guys reacting to daft punk! Daft Punk is my all time favourite Band/Artist and its safe to say that this is also due to you Jack Conte and your Daft Punk covers/remixes. me being 12-14 years old and finding my love in electronic music was such a crazy journey and a lot of it was thanks to you! theres alot more to say here but i want to keep it short. i may have 2 suggestions for you guys that would mean a llot to me if you could react to them: Coldplay - Coloratura and Imagine Dragons - Dull Knives
Both are new songs and i have to say im not a coldplay or imagine dragons fan and never really liked their pop songs but these 2 songs are just phenomenal... especially Coloratura..man i just cant get enough of it its like the kids of all the Pink Floyd members formed a band
He got it spot on when he said it’s the rock and roll of electronic music. I’m not big into Electronic músic, but daft punk and their fellow French djs that followed are my shit! Justice especially. They have that rock and electronic music sound
F@CK!!!! I really need to work and this addicting content is distracting me so much!!!! Outstanding guys! You ROCK!!!!!
Daft PUnk has reached places in first place and the others still don't know exist....if they had given the same samples to hundreds of producer duos...DP would keep making it different original, and unique...That's right, laws that regulate the use of samples persecute the artist and creative Based on the belief that the work would not exist OR BE A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS without those samples.....to take money instead of telling them "How creative and respectful they were when using my work, and with how much dedication they worked on it, thank you for having requested it, it is an honor"
Hey guys, just found your channel and absolutely love, love, love it! Especially the one you did on “September” by Earth Wind and Fire. OUTSTANDING. The only thing is, every time I see Ryan Lerman, I keep expecting him to start singing “Sledgehammer” by Peter Gabriel lol.
Introducing Theo Katzman to the Vocoder is the genre mashing new album I’ve been waiting for.
I love, love, LOVE this new series! It's so educational and entertaining. I hope it grows to a lengthier podcast. :) I would love to hear you all react to Lingus by Snarky Puppy.
I’ve always thought that this song was a talk box. Great vid.
The Scary Pockets cover of the song, featuring Swatkins and the German Big Band was Awesome!💥 Swatkins, with his Talk Box, is just about the only musician who could pull off the lead part and do the cover justice.
the german big band xD xD. Sorry I had to laugh because I am german.
Pomplamooses version is also excellent.
@@nhattuyenvodieu3103 It’s the Frankfurt Radio Big Band, a German jazz ensemble. Brilliant backing group for Scary Pockets on the song. th-cam.com/video/RHu0ALxqUIo/w-d-xo.html
@@christofjork8446 Yes, I had forgotten about the Pamplamoose cover. Very cool version. The "talking" guitar solo was great. And Nick Campbell cooks on bass, as usual.
Very cool analysis. Thank you very much, I really learned a lot! ❤😊
15:30 I never thought I would witness a live human successfully sing a daft punk song 😮
Hey guys! I really dig what you´re doing! Check out James Blakes song Retrograde. This song just floors me every time!
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Would be great to hear more from Arianna in these videos. In a 20.45min long video her voice is heard maybe for about 1minute. And also her inputs is kind of muted and not discussed.
And it sounds like her mic is not det for her speaking voice.
We always like to watch this show all the way from Sweden!
They didn’t notice that the gridded move is actually used because of intastella 5555 it’s set to the anime itself. If you watch it the first cue is during the pod drop right at the beginning of the song. Rewatch the video and you notice it happen alot more frequently.
As others have said, the animation is from Interstella 5555. It's basically the entire discovery album from start to finish as an anime. 100% recommend watching.
Musical quotations are as old as music. The only difference between the present and the past is that now you don't have to play the music to get the sound. It's a technology issue, not an artistry issue.
Your point about culture outpacing the standards and legalities is very true, and it's crazy to think just how far that goes with the internet, not just in music, but everything: art, code, even words (twitter much?) The current precedent exists for much less throughput. We have turned everything into intellectual property, and the next few decades will probably change the way we deal with use and infringement. I'm a music production teacher, and the overwhelming majority of my students (mostly younger gen z) don't see it as stealing even in very clear cases. Hard to say how much that is just youth and inexperience...I felt much more open with my music when I was younger. Now that my livelihood is based on licensing and royalties, I have to care a lot more.
How many takes did that intro acapella take? How long did y'all practice beforehand?
Needless to say I think it's awesome and I'm an uber-fan of it. More acapella please!
oh this channel is good! great content for musicians 👌 thank you
If you listen closely on the solo its very clear that they aren't just playing the same vocal track, there is a lot of variance in the vocal phrases. Of course they could have played different tracks or something but there are differences for sure from the sections that play on the verses
would love to see you continue this by looking at something like The Avalanches "Because I'm Me"
Is this where we leave our suggestions? Well I love your show and all music, especially classic rock, so... Can you please do a show on Crimson and Clover by Tommy James. I love ALL THE INSTRUMENTS and can't figure a cpl out. T James said he liked Princes cover of it. I love Joan Jetts too. But love the long version of Tommy James Crimson and Clover it's so amazing to pull the sounds out! Thanks and your doing great! Peace Always~
Great analysis.
Would be really interested to hear you guys talk about J Dilla.
Wow, I learnt a lot ! I'd like to see you guys hanging out on some "NUJABES"
So out comes my only Daft Punk album for another listen in the context of what you guys just taught me..... These videos are becoming my favorite bit of learning every week.... Thanks again for your insight into these tracks. Love it heaps.